The Breakfast Club - INTERVIEW: Rob49 Talks New Album, 'WTHELLY' Going Viral, Relationship With Birdman, G Herbo, Family Loss + More

Episode Date: May 30, 2025

Today on The Breakfast Club, Rob49 Talks New Album, 'WTHELLY' Going Viral, Relationship With Birdman, G Herbo, Family Loss. Listen For More!YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@BreakfastClubPower1051FMSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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The Breakfast Club. Morning everybody is DJ Envy Jess Hilarious Charlamagne the guy we are the Breakfast Club Lauren the roses here as well and we got a special guest in the building fresh off a flight Rob 49. What's up brother? How y'all doing? What's up?

How you doing? How y'all? I feel like I can't say see you without not saying what the hell he yeah, I know right everybody greet you like you doing? What's up, y'all? I feel like I can't see you without not saying what the hell he. Yeah, I know, right? Everybody greet you like that now? Yeah, I been ignoring them. I didn't say that. I don't need to say that.

Come on, man, don't put that in. We should've ignored you last night. I seen you at the Indiana Pacer game a couple nights ago, and my Knicks lost, and I blame it on you. Why are you blaming after that next build? I don't know, I gotta blame it on everybody in that building. 50 gets blamed too, everybody gets blamed. 50 get blamed?

Yeah, y'all was all bad luck for my Knicks. But 50 from blamed. 50 get blamed? Yeah, y'all was all bad luck for my Knicks. But 50 from here though? That's all right, y'all was all bad luck that day. Spike Lee was it, that makes no sense what you're saying. Spike Lee too, that was all bad luck that day. Damn. But what did you become a Pacers fan? Huh?

When I said, what the hell you burn? What the hell you burn? Pacers fan. When he was like, man I fuck with him, I'm like, I fuck with you too. Oh, okay, okay, okay. So he gave you free tickets? He gave you free tickets from that point on?

Yeah, for sure. Buffalo Wild Wings gave me some tickets last night, though. We got some shit going on. Oh, you about to do a Buffalo Wild Wings sponsorship? Hopefully, what the hell, what is it called? Habanero? Habanero, Habanero. Not with the Habanero, but shown on the United States.

I know, cause I be getting the honey hot and stuff like that. Yeah. So say what the habanero, there we go. Exactly. Shout out Buffalo Wild Wings. Congratulations on that. That's beginning to existence. Big one. That make you say what the hell. Not for sure.

Is this all crazy? Cause I know the song with the hell eat, it was kind of like just a song you had, y'all playing around in the studio and it's so, I mean all your songs are big, but like, it has such impact and kind of was like the song you put out there. I ain't gonna lie, I knew the song was gonna be good.

Like we knew as soon as we made it. We made it down the street, like two minutes away in New York, for real. We was on tour, man, Skilla. It was Skilla's session. I wound up going in there, it was making some songs with him, but he had got tired, I'm like, stay It was Skilla Session. I wound up going up and was making some songs with him, but he had got tired, I'm like, stay.

He wound up leaving, so I wound up doing like three songs and they wound up being What the Hell It. Why'd you end up shouting out all them random people at the end of the song, or was it random? Was it? It was bullshit, like, we was just bullshit and laughing, like, just saying anything. Coming up with your own What the Hell It,

like how people doing now, I was just coming up with my own, like, What the Hell It, Brian Jane, like all people doing now. I was just coming up with my own, what the hell is it, Brian J? All that type stuff. I don't know why when I hear that song, I think a juvenile. That's something Juve would have did back in the day.

Take a phrase everybody's saying and turn it into a song. I was thinking about that, and I was kinda comparing it to it, but I'm thinking about it, bro. I can't compare that to the hum. He was rapping his ass off. Oh no, no, yeah, I ain't saying.

I was playing on that. Yeah, I ain't comparing it to the hum. I'm just his ass off. Oh no, no, yeah, I ain't saying. I ain't playing no one nothing. Yeah, I ain't comparing it to him. I'm just saying the style of it, you know what I mean? Nah, for sure, for sure. Did you expect it to be that big, that fast? I ain't gonna lie, brother. I really did, I can't lie to you. I swear to God.

Me and my partners already knew. You dropped it on, I don't remember, right before that weekend, but that weekend, DJs was already playing with it in the club and it was going crazy. You know what's funny, it was May 6th, months before. I think I took so long to drop it, I stopped believing in it a little.

Like I was dropping, I dropped like two singles and I'm like, man, we playing, we ain't dropping, what the hell is this, let's just do it. And we just did it and it was what we thought it was gonna be like. Now you got a nine figure Buffalo Wild Wings deal. See what I'm talking about? Six.

Okay. I ain't gonna count it out. Counting your money, he did that to count your money. That's all right. He tried. Now let me fly y'all. What did you have to let go of personally in order to let yourself fly on this album?

Just think, like I said, like think about myself, like man, stop believing in something, stop not believing in myself. I was just like, forget it, like man, whatever happens, happens. You're a bitch if you do, you're a bitch if you don't. Like, you know? So you was at a point where you didn't believe in yourself?

I didn't believe in myself. You know, when you keep coming with a miss, like man, can I come with another one? Like you gotta be real with yourself at some point. So that's what it was on, that's what I was on. Now I wanted to go back to you, you told me about What the Hell He Before That. You did a bunch of remixes on that.

So the people call you for the remix, you reached out to them, because you went all left, right. You did the B-boy, you did- I reached out to one person. Who was that? And that was Herb. But Herb had his remix done three months before

with the heli drop. Like he heard the song and took his with me. I'm like, man, listen to this song. He like, man, I said, that's the song I was telling you about. He wound up doing it like the next week. I really didn't need to tell him about it, remind him. He just did it. And Justin just sent it.

I called Justin one day like, man, you might wanna get on the remix. He sent it to me when he was on the phone. You called him, you and Justin be hanging out? We be talking and shit like that. But he called me, he just, while we was on the phone, he like, man, check your message, I had already did it. And Lato sent her shit, I ain't, like, everybody

just did it on their own for real. So the DM with Justin Bieber, that was like promo, like he had already done it? Nah, he did it. Oh, that was like the real. That's what I'm saying, that's why I told him like, you fuck with this hoe, you might wanna do it. Everything is that was like the real. That's what I'm saying, that's why I told him like, you fuck with this whole, you might as well do it. Everything is real, like I be putting in real time.

That's fire. Justin Bieber had DM'd him, like, okay, I didn't know if y'all knew that, but. I didn't, go ahead. Justin, he just had DM'd him like a lot from the song, and I thought it was just like promo for the remix that he was gonna do. It wasn't though.

But that's fire that it was just like. That is though. Yeah. That was hard. Was there a song on Let Me Fly that scared you to record because it felt too honest? Hit Me Mama. Hit Me Mama. I knew you was gonna say that.

Hit Me Mama. I recorded Hit Me Mama in Times Square. Wow. What was that record mean to you? I don't know man. At the moment I really recorded it like laying in a bed. Like, and then I had, I wanted to finish it and like three months later, like, and then I wanted to finish it and three months later, but I was scared to finish it

because I didn't want to get that deep, you feel me? What you mean? We were talking, I was saying some stuff or nothing that I wouldn't normally say out loud. Is it because you were too vulnerable in your opinion? You didn't want to be that vulnerable. Some things I don't even want to come to, I don't even wanna come to the realization. Like I said something like, mama I lost my mind.

Like I feel like I lost my mind, but I never said out loud. You feel what I'm saying? Cause you don't wanna come to that realization. Like stuff like that. I ain't gon' front. That's probably my favorite version of Rob 49. You think so?

Hell yeah. I appreciate you. You know Meek too in the same thing. Who? Meek, he just takes me to the same thing. Like, man, I didn't know you was coming like this. Did Meek want to record more records like that? That's how I came rapping though. When I started rapping, I was like,

I was in a deep, dark depression, and I started rapping like that, rapping about what I was going through. And they didn't want to hear that. So I just started getting on with what I be on. You hear me? You know, Let Me Fly, the title sounds like a cry for freedom.

That's how I feel about it though. Okay. That's how I feel. Like I said, we coming with back to back to back to back even when you think you're not gonna come another one, but they still play you like you ain't one of them. You feel what I'm saying? I feel like man, as I was turning,

like it's the young people turning. Like let us fly and not just me. You said you used to think rappers were lying, right? But now that you're a rapper. You know they lying. What's the most? I got a little more respect for them. I got a little more respect for the rappers

that came up before me. But do you still feel that way about some of them, B-Line? I don't know. What was one of the most surprising truths that you found out about the industry since you been in it? Not even the surprising thing, but the people that I listened to,

they wanted to be in the ones who was really like, you know what I'm saying? Really the one, so yeah. That's one of the truths I loved about it. And have you spoke to Skillababy? Recently, how's he doing? I texted him the other day, he probably going to do some more stuff, you know what I'm saying?

Yeah. Just let him have his moment. Not to get his mental wreck. Get well soon though, baby boy. Yeah, salute to Skillababy. Yeah, and you said this album, that's all right. Get well soon though, baby boy. Yeah, salute to Skiller Baby. Yeah, and you said, you know, this album is, it feel like freedom. So what made you feel like, I guess, caged the most?

Was it your life or your career now? Really like, really like, I really got out of this, but I was just searching for validation from like, from like people who we looked up to coming up, like you feel what I'm saying? And I came to the realization, I don't care. We gonna be the new ones and we just gonna handle it how we supposed to handle it right.

And that's how I feel about it. Who was you seeking validation from? I'm just saying bigger artists. Not even validation far as like, when all the younger people was coming up before, it's like how they made superstars. I feel like we ain't really got like that right now. We ain't really got that.

It's the same in a bunch of different industries. So I'm a stand up comedian to stand up the greats before me. I at one point wanted to live up to what I thought they expected or what the standard was of that, right? But we knew school, so we do shit differently. We got famous differently, you know what I mean? We shot up, our platform grew with the help of the internet which a lot of them didn't have.

So it's like that in all arenas, all industries. Nah, for some reason. What got you over that though? Where you didn't feel like you had the had the validation or did you get the validation you needed? I just I don't know bro I just woke up one day it was like I want to step on everybody's neck and I dropped what the hell is that next week and then we just started stepping on everybody's neck. And then what you saw more more rap niggas acting like you than Lil Wayne? Exactly. That did something for you too? They were doing that.

That's when you know I guess it's your generation. That's a line that he has on a song. Get the picture with Birdman. Nah for sure. Nah they've been doing that. You really bought 15 and whips in a year? Yeah not just my cars. Oh okay okay okay. My mama's cars, my sister's cars. I got me like, full cars. And who the rest went to? Don't say you buying these women cars. I got a girl a car.

Eight girl. You said eight girls. You're not a girl. I said eight girl. I said eight girl. Eight, not eight, eight. Oh, okay, okay, okay. They about to put you in a roaster, boy.

You about to go home like, oh my God. Oh my God. So I had to hurry up. about to put you in a roaster, boy. You about to go home like that. Oh my God. That's what I had to hear. Lauren said, you got a girl? No, he does. He talked about it before. Yeah, no, but you asked him, like, you didn't know if it was true.

15 causes a lot. Yeah, a lot of causes. What kind of causes? Let me maybe, pre-insist? Two escalades, one tieoe, a Carpet, a Hellcat, a G-Wagon, a Lincoln.

That's a lot of cars. You're about 600 right there. You're about between 500 and 600 right there. That's a lot of cars. You wanna keep running? I just wanna make sure you ain't rap, Kevin. I can keep running if you want me to. No.

No. You about to die. I ain't say the most expensive cars, but everybody got a car. Yeah, yeah, yeah. What car you drive around in? Well, what about for a little while? When you about to buy houses?

Not for sure. We got a couple houses too. I got a couple houses. My mom's been getting my real estate, right? I was gonna ask you how, cause you and your mom have a really, like y'all have a relationship online and like the videos you post. How does your mom feel about like when you drop songs,

like Hear Me Mama and like you're more vulnerable. She be crying bro. Cause she know everything I'm saying facts. So she be like damn, like how you, she be asking me sometimes how you put that in the, on a beat like how you really made our real life on a beat. She be asking me that. She here, you can ask her too.

Oh, she's here. Charlamagne. You know, you rap about survival and trauma and loyalty. Does success make you soft, or are you just learning to be more vulnerable? I really was an outgoing person because I always like helping people. But now I'm on some shit like man,

everybody don't deserve my kindness. So I'm really at the state of my life like man, I really gotta back up from everybody. Like honestly. And not letting nobody take your joy, just be quiet like. And you save your joy for people who don't deserve it. So that's what I'm on for right now.

I used to be kind. You feel like the city has caught up with you yet, New Orleans? Well, like what? Just in general, because you blew up pretty quickly, right? You feel like they've caughten up yet? Like do they have real love for you? They got real, Barca's the biggest in New Orleans

before I made a song. Before I made it big, like a hot song. I just sold out a arena, like how Jay-Z sell out a arena. I sold out a arena in New Orleans before I made a song. Before I made it big, like a hot song. I just sold out of arena, like how Jay-Z sell out of arena. I sold out of arena in New Orleans by myself, $15 people. What's up, kid? I saw you did the Hot Boys reunion, I was there. Nah, before that, I did my own. But even there, feeling it and being in New Orleans

and seeing it, I was like, oh wow. That was cool, it's just like, I wouldn't say that was like, because they got their own fan base, so it wasn't really terming me, and it was funny to me. I felt like that, but maybe because I'm not from there, I felt like it was, but you know. You gotta come to one of my shows.

You'll be like, no way he got this, like this. I got videos I'll show you like, this is OD. I just felt like the high boys, they got their own little stuff going on. You know what I'm saying? What's your relationship with New Orleans now? I fuck with everybody in New Orleans. I'm really the one in New Orleans.

You stay there? Can you stay there? I can't stay there. If I stay there, it's not gonna be a good idea for me. You opened up a lounge called Ness Nola. Is that in New Orleans? That's in New Orleans. Yeah, congratulations on that.

Thank you so much. Where did the name come from? Ness? Vulture. Vulture Ness. Just cause I be putting like Vulture on my stuff. How often are you there? I used to be going back there a lot,

but I just feel like I'm gonna get in trouble. So I just had to back up for real. Cause I know this already, I know when you're doing good, it's on that matter time. But that's what I mean, right? Sometimes your city knows you a big deal, but they don't see your elevation. This ain't Rob 49 from 10 years ago.

Like you ain't the little nigga no more. I ain't gonna lie. They definitely see my elevation. Everybody see it. Like I ain't gonna lie, I was elevated before I made it. Like I'm telling you, like my mails was coming to my shoes and stuff.

Like I was already that. Like ain't like I went down, you know? I was already that, like. Ain't like I went down, you know? I like y'all. I like y'all. I was scared to do y'all. Nah, I was scared to do y'all by myself. I was being quiet when Skilla was here, like for real.

Yeah, and then Skilla liked to talk a little bit more than you, a lot more than you. What you scared of though? Man, just like when I, you know what's funny, bro? I'm gonna say this right here and it's gonna be the craziest moment of my life. I remember sitting in my bed, like I probably had a thousand followers.

I'm like, man, when I make it on a breakfast club, that's the day you made it Rob. Like just accept it that day. And that's crazy. Like this is my day. You work for it, you deserve it. Absolutely. Not for sure.

When you listen back to Let Me Fly five years from now, what do you hope you don't relate to anymore? And I hope I don't relate to none of it. I just won't, I won't be so out of touch with the world. I'm like, I'm serious, like, I don't even wanna be hearing about music no more, like I just won't be living my life off instrumentals. Like in Italy.

I'm telling you like in six, seven years, I'm about to run this bag up so big. In six, seven years, I want to move to Italy. Probably me and my girl. Like probably have a little house for my mom and them and just be off the grid. Like that's what I want. No new songs at that point?

Probably for fun sometimes. Like, but I ain't trying to make it. Like I ain't going to. Why Italy? I don't know, I like the water a lot and I don't want nobody to know me. Like nobody. You must have went out there recently,

you had a good ass time. No, I went to London and had a good time. So I was thinking about Italy. If you ever say, I'm thinking, that's further than London. I know that's gonna be crazy. So yeah. How old are you? 26.

26, damn, you're 26 and you already talking like that? I really wanna do it now. If I had basketball money, like $300, $400 million, I was over with, I'm retiring. I was over with. What is it, the fame? The fame? Nah, it ain't even that, it's just like, brother, I don't know what it is. What is it, the fame? The fame? Nah, it ain't even that, it's just like,

brother, I don't like society. I don't like society. It's the social media. You always been like that or this is because like- I always been like that forever. I ain't really like social media and shit. Me being on social media and like, I be feeling like I'm doing goofy shit on social media

and all type of shit when in real life, I'm really that nigga, you feel what I'm sayin'? Cause I don't know how to work it too much. So yeah. You just bein' real. You feel me? If I post my, one of my niggas tell me, I posted in a studio with me, YTBFat and Hotboy

and little shit, man. I was so turned, you know, I laugh and I punch and I be doin' all that. One of my niggas like, man, you can't be doing that on the internet because you know people are taking it a different way and I'm like. What? Not even that, not even that.

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Let me hear it. Listen to VoiceOver on the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I just be being me. I be being real for real. This really me. But even stuff like that, make me be like, I don't even want to be on that. I feel around and say something I ain't supposed to say. What does Birdman say to you?

I know you got a good relationship with Birdman. Does he guide you, does he help you at all? He just called me yesterday, he like, man, you're doing it right, I'm so proud of you. I always knew you was the one. He just told me you ordered me a chain yesterday too. A Rich Gang chain. Oh, wow, dope.

I remember last time you said you was supposed to sign with Birdman, but you didn't do it because you was facing eviction and you needed that money. I needed the money. I remember last time you said you was supposed to sign with Birdman but you didn't do it because you was facing eviction and you needed that money. I needed the money. Right then and there. For sure, but I ain't gonna lie, he always told me I was gonna be the one, he ain't lying. Have you been in a position to renegotiate the deal

that you have and you work with him now or is it still like you have the situation? No, I'm good with the people that believed in me from the jump. Did you tell him you was coming up here today? Huh? You told him yesterday? No, I didn't tell him.

Oh, okay, good, good. Oh yeah, funny as hell. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You ever ask him about that or not? No, I never ask him about that. Y'all funny as shit, though. Y'all funny as shit, though, man. Damn.

So when y'all have conversations now, does he ever bring that up? Like, damn, you ain't wanna sign with me, but. Hell nah, I wanted to sign with him, he knew. Yeah, he said that was the dream. I flew to his house and everything, he just, I just needed the money right there, and now he sign with him, he knew. Yeah, you said that was the dream. I flew to his house and everything, I just needed the money right there, and he understand, he knew,

cause I told him. Was Where I'm From a hard record to record? That was another one you was being vulnerable on? I really was just like, I was really just talking that day. I remember that day, I'm happy, I can't, like stuff like that, I'd be happy when I had them type days when it just flew out. that day. I'm happy I can't, like stuff like that, I'd be happy when I had them type days when it just flow out.

You know what I'm saying? So yeah, it was, I ain't thinking too much on that song. You talk about your dad being in prison, you talk about losing people close to you, how you haven't been the same since that. Not for sure. Being looked at as the chosen one from the city, which is a lot of pressure.

Damn, damn. People thinking you own them, cause you made it out. I was talking. Yeah, man. You talk about your mom being like that too. You talking about being addicted to pills? My mom and my dad was in jail at the same time. I was staying with my cousin Sheikah. How old were you?

Be like 12, 13, something like that. And even pills, like I used to always tell my friends, like, man, get off them pills, bro. I wound up getting shot and I took a pill. I'm like, man, I just wanted to, but my mind's so strong, like man, get off them pills, bro. I wind up getting shot and I took a pill. I'm like, man, I just wind up, but my mind's so strong, I wind up getting off them. But now I can take them whenever I want to, like, you know what I'm saying?

Because I don't know, my mind's just a little stronger than everybody else's mind. Oh, honest though, you say I'm taking them drugs for the cold, but I'm trying to stop. Damn, yeah. You forgot? I be trying to stop. Damn, yeah. You forgot? I be taking them though, I be taking them, but that's just when I be feeling like it.

Like when I get on a plane, I do it one time or something like that, but I'm gonna be doing like my nigga do it a little. Dirk brother called me one day on my sleep and was like, stop. I had a bad dream. And I just stopped taking him. You feel what I'm saying? We say he had a dream that you'd schooled.

I don't know he had a bad dream. I was like, all right. You feel what I mean? He told me what happened, but I don't even speak to him. I'm with you, I'm with you. Yeah, he told me I just stopped taking him for like two, three months, like cold turkey. What's your relationship with Dirk Deez-Dez?

I don't really be talking to Dirk. Like do it to my niggas, banish my niggas, his niggas and my niggas like whoop. I fuck with Dirk too though. I talked to him right before he went to jail. I just be letting niggas have their moment. I ain't wanting them niggas to invade somebody's privacy. I like what like, nigga, how they moment? I ain't wanting them niggas to invade somebody's privacy.

Like. Yeah. I like what you said about, you know, we're not wanting to speak that type of shit into existence, but on Honest, you said, you don't see yourself growing old. Growing old, I said, probably not. Okay, okay.

But. Probably not. But you planning to, because you talking about wanting to move to Italy in four years. And you said you want to have kids. Yeah. No, but I don't know if my health,

I don't know, you feel what I'm saying? That's for God to see, but how I've been living, I don't know. You feel me? I said probably not. That's just how I be feeling sometimes. You feel like that because things are so good right now,

or you just don't know? I just, things going good but I just seen like my whole family going, I seen things turn. So probably not. Is it health? Like what you mean like bad health? Just like everything like I don't, I'm so used to, like bro I'ma just keep it a hundred.

Like you know when you, when you, brother, my whole family, I didn't watch my whole family die. So this is what I'm just used to mentally, even though it might be some fucked up shit to say. But that's just how I think. Even when I go to clubs, I think about death all day. Because so many people didn't die in front of me. You feel what I'm saying?

So that's just what I be thinking about. But the same way you the chosen one for your city, you the chosen one for your family, because you could be the generational curse breaker. Nah, for sure. I think I am. And then what about any type of therapy you never thought about sitting down

talking to somebody professionally about your feelings? My girl just told me through that shit. Oh, if your girl is telling you to do it. I don't feel like I need, it's too much. I can't talk to you people about what I be talking about, what I be thinking in my head. Yes, you can, that's the whole point. If you find the right person. I don't trust to you about what I be talking about, man. What I be thinking in my head. Yes you can, that's the whole point. If you find the right person.

I don't trust nobody like that. If your girl wants you to go, you should go. You trust her. You think so? Yes, because that means she sees something that you probably don't even see. She probably see a lot of the unhealed trauma that you trying to bury, put away, or rap about.

And she probably see the fan, like you carry a lot. I'm sure she sees that. She's in the health profession, right? Or you were gonna be. I was, I was, I was trying to be. Oh, you were gonna be, okay. Yeah, I was trying to be. You say it's called blousing, is that how you say it?

Blousin'. Blousin'. On blousin' you talk about like your uncle being locked up and taking care of everybody. So I'm sure she's watching all of that too, cause then you talk about the pills again. Nah, nah, nah, she, yeah, definitely. I gotta listen to her. She's smart too, because then you talk about the pills again. Nah, nah, nah, she, yeah definitely. I gotta listen to her.

She's smart too, so. He's saying this, but he ain't gonna. I might do for real. I would just, if I had my phone right here, I would've text her right now. Yeah. I was, I'm a thinker. You gonna call the lady?

You gonna text and call the lady? He'll call his girl. Yeah. He'll call the lady? The therapist. Hell nah. It's peaceful. I was gonna tell her, set it up, is what I'm saying. That's what you're saying, go call tell her, set it up is what I'm saying.

Like, set it up, like, man you play all day. You don't stop. You see why Birdman did what he did now, right? Don't do that, bro. I saw you on Million Dollars Worth of Game with Gillian Wallow. You said you pulled up on Young Thug. Yeah, look, we going to, man.

I don't know. You see what I'm saying though? Hell nah, we gon' do that. You got in trouble for that one, huh? Nah, I didn't, but I look at him like, bad move. You know what I'm saying? I ain't get in trouble or nothing. Like, they ain't call me by the name, like,

but in my character, I'm like bad mood for me. Make it disappear. I'm like, you feel me? I'm fitness it, but for real though, bro. I'm like, make that shit disappear. Yeah, for real. How do you think Let Me Fly builds on your legacy?

Or did you try to burn some of the old version of you down? Man, I'm just trying to rap for real. I want them to know I can rap. Long story short. All right. Is wide body about fat people? Ha ha ha ha. Man, that's about a wide body cut, man.

Oh. Wide as hell. That's the first thing you thought about? Yeah, that's number nine. Wide body. Man, you playing. OK. Why buy the cup, man? Why the hell? That's the first thing you thought about? Yeah, that's number nine. Why buy it? Man, you playing. Okay.

I didn't know, man. You playing. You funny as hell, bro. You talked about on the Poor Minds podcast that you don't want to be an old dad. Yeah. I want a kid right now, bro. Oh, you mean you don't want to have a baby when you too old? You see what I'm saying, I want a kid right now, bro. Oh, you mean you don't want to have a baby when you too old?

You see what I'm saying? I want a kid right now. I want to walk in and my child gotta fight because his mama fine, like, you feel me? Your nigga be like, man, your mama fine, cause she young, so you gotta fight. Mama still gonna be fine with you though, though. Yeah, black woman age, Mackey, baby.

Still gonna be fine. Still gonna be fine. They were trying to tell him that. Right now, though. Yeah, why not? You see, you know. Still gonna be fine. Still gonna be fine. They were trying to tell him that. Right now though. Yeah, why not? Why you still, you gotta fight. Yeah, for his case, he still wanna be the young dad. You feel me?

Yeah. Hey, what the hell? Yeah, you don't have to have him. So what's stopping you? Condoms. Not even condoms, I'm trying. Oh, okay, okay. You could be kind right now.

I'm trying. If God say the same. Boy or girl, you want girl, dad? A healthy kid, I swear to God. That's crazy, I ain't used to think like that. You never wanted a kid? I'm just saying, I ain't used to thinking like, oh, healthy kid, but I see that shit real.

Healthy kid, that's it. I just want a healthy kid. What make you want a child now? You always hear women say, y'all want a kid, I want a kid, what make you feel like you want one right now? Just because I didn't, there was so much loss in my life, I want to build my family back up.

That's dope. My whole family gone for real. My mama had four brothers, two sisters, five brothers, two sisters, all of them dead. One of them alive, my uncle, and he in jail. We all stay in the same house. So for that reason that you just said, that's why you have to break the generational curse.

You know, you still got, you're still aware, very aware of what happened to your family. You don't want this to happen to you. You gotta get out of that mindset. You gotta change your mindset. Cause you, you're about to, you wanna build a family. You know what I'm saying? And you wanna have your own family

because most of yours is gone. So you can do that. I be thinking about moving back to New Orleans for that reason too, brother. Just cause I want just like get a big house. I call Birdman like, man send me your house so my whole family can move in it. But I just know it's a bad move,

but as bad as I, I just want my family so bad. It's a bad move to go back to your hometown. It's a bad move, but as bad as I, I just want my family so bad. It's a bad move to go back to your hometown. It's a bad move, like. Yeah. It's a bad move, but I want my family. You know it's a bad move, don't do it. Yeah. You feel me though? Yeah, you gotta trust your ass.

I just asked my little sister, like, you want me to come home? Like, she like, hell no. Like. Or move them to where you at. Yeah, that's the goal. The goal is to get the money to move them where you go. I know, but they don't wanna move. I got the money to move. They don't wanna come. They comfortable where you at. That's the goal, the goal is to get the money to move them where you go. I know, but they don't wanna move,

I got the money to move, they don't wanna come. They comfortable where they at. They comfortable where they at. But they want you to stay away too. You feel me? Yeah. And if your family telling you to stay away, you gotta listen. That's the answer that's talking through.

Do you ever express to them the way you expressing it does now? Like man, look. Yeah, I just told her that in the club. I miss my family. She was like, this nigga drunk. expressed to them the way you expressing it does now like man Bro like I'm telling you like Do you ever feel, even though you haven't all. I'm still fucked up though from that night. For sure.

Because I'm like dang, I just messed up the mental health vibe, but okay. Even though you having all the success and you got all of the money, do you ever truly feel not alone? Not alone for, like what? Because you say you lost everybody. I don't know, sometimes man. Sometimes.

A lot of times I do feel alone though. Damn, we ain't even about to talk like that. We can talk like that. Not for real, I'm serious, we ain't even about to talk like that because man, I be trying to keep my shit clean like my head, you know what I'm saying? And then your girl gonna be like, you feel alone motherfucker?

No, no, no, no, no. Oh, okay. She about the only one that make like, if I ever lose like, that's gonna be the end of it. I'm gonna just be like, for a bullshit full like out here. You feel me?

Yeah, yeah. What's G Herbo relationship? You and G Herbo relationship? That's my brother. That's my brother for sure. That's my real brother. He a real fan of me too. I heard you say that G Herbo was your favorite rapper.

Yeah, him, Curr, like, yeah, him was my favorite rapper. Curr from Philly? Curr from Philly. I like him too. Yeah, that's my dog. Y'all really doing an album together? You and Herbo? We supposed to drop it like next month for real.

Ghetto boys. It's called Ghetto. Ghetto boys, neighborhood superstars, something like that. It's done already? 90%. I told him I won't lock in for like one more week. Yeah, but it's that for sure.

So you just dropped this album. You're working on a duo album and then you- I'm working on two duo albums. One called Youngest in Charge, like with all the young niggas like right now, like Huncho, Hot Boy, Wajib, Shimmie. That's the Youngest in Charge album. I'm working on the one with Herb,

and I'm working on my own called Life of the Party. So is that why you push, you really setting up for retirement. Like you pushing out, is that why you pushing out so much when you're once? Yeah, I don't wanna play. We definitely need that,, all the young ones, we need that for the summer.

No, it's gonna be bullshit music, it's gonna be crazy, for sure. I know Herb will be trying to get you to go to therapy. Cause Herb. I ain't gonna lie, he on the same time, he one of the hardest niggas I be talking to with like some sense, you feel me? Hell yeah.

For sure. Herb done came, I do this thing called the mental wealth expo every year. Herb, Herb old one came to that and spoke to the people and everything. For real? Absolutely. Man, they'll put me down, I'll come there for sure.

Where, where? I'm serious. That's your shit? Yeah. I'm coming, that's what we're doing. You wanna come to speak or just to learn? Whatever he want me to do. Okay.

That's what's up. It's interesting, right, cause you know, I hear you talking to interviews, ever a moment in the studio where you gotta stop recording cause you might be breaking down? Hell nah, I ain't knowin' that type of shit. And what happens is it happened already. I ain't knowin' that.

But I'd be on a stop and be, I'd probably stop her while he record. Be like, bitch, you talk of your shit. I ain't gonna be on your, I ain't gonna, you know what I'm sayin'? Glaze you or nothin'. Man, that ain't glazing to tell your brother he's killing that shit.

But he know I do him that. I be like, yes you know you're the greatest rapper alive, but go ahead and finish recording. Like, actually we gonna tell you, like I do him that every time we in the studio. Like, no way you just came up with that. I think it's healthy when other, you know, male rappers can tell it.

Like you just said, me get you and say, yo, I didn't know you was coming like that. You know, I think that's cool. Nah, I didn't know you was coming like that. I think that's a little bit. Yeah, for sure. We getting a tour? Yeah, for sure, we gonna get a tour. I was thinking about, they want me going like a big tour,

but I think I wanna go on my own little small tour. You know? Why a little small? Just because I want people who like crazy fans of me. Yeah. Connect with them. Like they got 30 minutes to get these tickets. Just because I want people who like crazy fans of me. Connect with them. Like they got 30 minutes to get these tickets. You feel what I'm saying?

And I don't care if it's 500 people, I just want them to be like out they shit they sell me. Yeah, a pop out tour. I don't know, but that's the type of shit I'm on. I ain't trying to be the biggest rapper. I just want to get this money and just get out of the way. But I do want to see my fans before I be like, all right, I'm done.

You want it to be intimate, so you can have a real connection. You feel me? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Something like that. What's the song that you've written, even just a song or bar on this new album that you wrote when you were hurt, but when you perform it now, you feel healed?

None of it, brother. I don't think I'm healed from none of it. I'm ready to perform it, just so I could just feel it in my soul. You feel what I'm saying? I won't perform it without no lyrics on it, however I want. You feel me?

Yeah, it's different. Yeah, something like that. So you might perform it and then feel it in that moment, like, oh shit. Yeah, like damn, I'm saying this, and I'm, it's a different. Yeah, something like that. So you might perform it and then feel it in that moment, like oh shit. Yeah, like damn, I'm saying this, and I'm saying it how I want. I don't know, live music is a little better than regular music to me.

I don't listen to regular music, I listen to live music. Like the SZA Live, the Lauryn Hill Live, and stuff like that. You think you could ever do Hit Me Mama Live? I can't wait to do it live. I was calling my label to let me do it live in the garden, in a garden with a band, something like that.

That should be crazy. Why the garden? It would be crazy. Like a garden. Just the aesthetic. Oh, I thought you meant Madison Square Garden. Yeah, yeah, not the garden. Why the garden?

That's too much, what the hell? We ain't done yet. You never know. They probably let me, hell, not right now. You can fill the theater. Not right now. Yeah, you can do the theater. You know what I'm saying, they ain't gonna let me

do nothing in the garden right now. With the pieces. Oh, shit, damn. They don't care about that, they don't care about that. They want their money. They want their money, for sure. I'm sure they want their money. Do you wanna be remembered as a great rapper,

a street legend, or somebody who made it out and gave the blueprint? Blueprint. You know it's funny, I used to look at Doug, I looked at Doug, I think that was an L.A. Wilson interview way before I even made anything. I was on my way to school looking at it, and then nigga was like, man, you gotta teach what's taught.

And that's how I lived, that's how I live my life. I feel like that was the realest shit he ever said. Now one time you said you not a rapper, you a hustler. Did that change now? Are you a rapper now? Rapping is hustling. That's why I'm here right now. And I ain't get no sleep yet.

Shit a hustle. People talk a lot about your business, Ackerman, you understanding the business and doing your own business. Where does that come from? Is that Mama49 or the coolest? That's me. I just don't, I know how to get some money. I was hustling in high school.

I was selling weed before my mama knew, so I always had the mentality to get some money for myself. So I just be structuring it, right? That's it. I'm a little thinker, so that's probably it. What's the biggest misconception about Raph or Nah? I'm a TikTok rapper. He be playing with that shit.

People think that? I don't think people work anymore. It's cause his songs are so big on TikTok. That's what I'm saying, but that's not my fault, y'all. That's just where you heard me at. What the hell is number one on the TikTok music charts? But even before they get to the charts and all that, like I be on, your songs take over TikTok.

It's the energy. That ain't my fault. That's y'all fault, TikTok. And then GQ, that's y'all fault, that's your fault. You making it. And then GQ named you the most raps, most viral hitmaker. Nah, for sure. Yeah. I think that makes sense.

Yes. Even though that's crazy to me because I don't feel like I'm near as where I wanna be in life. Like this is like 2%, like 3%. I wanna get to the 100 but it's like man, I'm low key tired of this shit. All the mixing mingles and bad energies out here. Like I don't want none of that, man.

You don't gotta do it. So if you could, you could be like the kindred. That's the best thing he ever told me. I be saying no to some of his stuff. You ain't gotta do it. You know what's funny, bro? Don't let the label lie to you. You know, I came here, I thought I was just doing y'all.

They like, man, you gotta, I was, man, listen, I don't want none of that shit. I already feel like I be saying too much. Like, you feel me? And don't be saying shit. Real talk. But even that, like, I feel like that's too much. For real, man. They do keep speaking parables a little bit.

I feel like that shit just, I don't know, bruh. I be feeling like I'm saying too much. So if you could, you would be like a Kendrick. He pop out every so often and he go back in here. You never see him doing no interviews. This the most that we've ever seen him after that beef with Kendrick, I mean with Drake. Yeah, he, the Super Bowl, I felt like we was only

seeing him do interviews and stuff like that because of the Super Bowl and the new album and everything. And he's still only talking through his music, right? And that's it. Maybe he did one Apple music or something. Yeah, one Apple music interview, that's it. My dream career is like, you're a great artist, you got millions of fans,

you can sell out of the arena where you want to. You make good music where everybody's just gonna listen when you drop it and you ain't gotta be in no mix. Like when you go to the arena, you go back in, it's two of y'all, it's gonna be two of your friends in the arena while you go performing in front of all these people. Like that's my dream career. That's what success is to you. it's could be two of your friends in the arena while you go performing in front of all these people.

That's my dream career. That's what success is to you. That's what that will be to you. Just calm, chill. Sometimes I won't get ratchet, but not all the time. Not because you have to. You feel what I'm saying? Not because I have to.

Exactly. You're not too far from that though. From that life, if you think about it. I definitely am, bro. Man, think about what you were dreaming of though. Because I have to get Ratchet because they know Ralf or Nine is like, bro, that dude gonna bring the vibes.

But you could do both. And that's actually what a great artist is. Like if I can listen to a song like Hit Me Mama, Honest. You think so? Yeah, man. I feel like Mika's a good person to talk to about that too,

because his songs that was like for the hood and like hype and people would consider Ratchet, it turned into energy music and football teams grabbed it. You know what I mean? Like he made that transition so well and that's where I see your stuff. So just last question. The crazy part is though,

you got people you can talk to about that. Like Juvenile was one of the biggest rappers in the world. Yes, Birdman. I can talk to Juvenile. Wayne. I can talk to Juvenile. Like there's superstars from New Orleans. Like P, like these are superstars.

Like internationally known superstars. And generations are living off of their songs. I'm gonna tell you something. I be trying not to do that because I'm so like mentally here and want somebody to tell me one little bitty thing I don't like. I don't like you for life. So I try not to even.

You feel what I'm saying? That is me. Put y'all in that position to give me no bad advice. Give me like, you feel me like? I don't like you for life. So I try not to even. You feel what I'm saying? Put y'all in that position to give me no bad advice. Give me, like, you feel me? I try not to even do that, bro. Cause I just hold grudges, that's it. Like what do you mean? Like what, did they tell you something that-

Like if they tell me something, if I get a little vibe and they be like, oh, Cridenary, and then I feel like you just telling me anything, I'd be like, I'll never call you again. But they could be doing that out of love. Like your man told you don't do this in the video, and you ain't taking it away. Not even that, like when they be like, I'll never call you again. But they could be doing it out of love. Like your man told you don't do this in the video and you ain't taking no meds.

Not even that, like when they be like, yeah, young just keep hustling. I'll just ask you a deep, deep, deep question. All right then, you put out my intelligence. I got you. You feel me? Yeah, I feel you. Yeah, I feel you.

No. What do you tell the younger artists coming up right now? Came from a fucked up situation like yours, but made it out. What would you tell them? Man, keep going, bro. You just told them that, don't say it. Keep hustling.

I'm about to tell you, you ain't even finished. Keep going, don't look at none of the negative comments that people posting about you. Look at the positive ones. Don't listen to nobody saying you're da da da da da, man, look at all the positive out of every situation. Every situation is a gym. So that's what I mean by keep going

because I let people in my ear and made me feel like I couldn't keep going. Like I had to stop for, I ain't dropping two years. Like I ain't dropped since my mom, that was two years ago. And then I dropped with the Helly and then it just went, I should have been doing that. Cause I had with the Helly when I had my mom. Maybe it would have been bigger.

So shit like that. So yeah, just keep going. You driving yourself crazy thinking like that though. I know. Cause everything happens at God's time. That's right. Exactly. That's what made me drop with the Helly and shit too.

I'm like man, if God pick any dude. You talk God in your music, so this is my last question for you. What's fueling you more now? Is it prayer or pressure? Prayer. Prayer. Prayer is fueling me.

God fuels me. I ask him to not give me what is called free will. I ask for no free will. I ask him to take control of my life, so that's it. That's a great way to be. One more question, because he already said, like 18 times, I don't like talking to people. That's a sign.

Get the hell out of here. Rob 49, ladies and gentlemen. Nah, for sure. Let me fly, it's streaming right now, pick for nine ladies and gentlemen. Nah, for sure. Let me fly. It's streaming right now. Pick it up and we appreciate you for joining us. I appreciate y'all, brother. I mean. All right, bro. It's the Breakfast Club. Come on. Wake that ass up.

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