The Breakfast Club - INTERVIEW: Robin Evans On Educating Women To Use Firearms And Self Defense With "Chicks With Triggers"

Episode Date: November 9, 2023

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Starting point is 00:03:21 The Breakfast Club. Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy, Charlamagne Tha Guy. We are The Breakfast Club. We got a special guest in the building. Yes, indeed. Founder and CEO of Chicks With Triggers Firearms Academy. Robin Evans, welcome. Robin.
Starting point is 00:03:35 Thank you for having me. How are you doing? I'm doing good. How are you? Good, good, good. Did they pat you down before you got here today? No, and thankfully, you know. Okay, great.
Starting point is 00:03:42 I don't know if that's a good thing or a bad thing. If I should feel safe or not. I don't know. Surprise, a good thing or bad thing, if I should feel safe or not. I don't know. Surprise, surprise. Surprise, surprise. Tell the people what Chicks With Triggers is, first of all. Chicks With Triggers is a self-defense company that I started down in Greenville, South Carolina. We deal primarily with firearms.
Starting point is 00:03:56 We teach women how to use guns. We teach women how to get certified to get pistol permits. We teach women self-defense. We teach women how to use knives, basically how to stay alive. No, I agree with it a thousand percent right before you walk and i was telling charlamagne that um my wife carries okay uh my assistant carries okay i carry okay and uh my daughter who's 21 i have her taking the uh training class right now so she can carry do they know how to use though yeah we go to range um very often okay very often no we do very often
Starting point is 00:04:27 but are you but are y'all good yes because a lot of people be at the range and they be in there looking crazy they do okay they don't know how to look they don't know how to use this size but you know what i'm not i'm not afraid to ask for help right my dad is a retired police officer so he goes with me sometimes you know uh y'all got that in common shows how to aim and understand and it's very important uh one thing my dad would would always tell me guns weren't a big thing in my house because I guess he was always open to sharing information about firearms. Right. So it was never a thing when I see my dad's gun like, oh, my God, it was right. That's dad's firearm. Unfortunately, in a lot of black like a lot of black households, guns are not talked about. Like you can't have them and stuff like that.
Starting point is 00:05:11 But in my experience, in the white communities, we start at five years old down in South Carolina. At five years old, they have the shooting camps. And you go to the shooting camp, and then it's all summer. Then we go to the range. But the black kids aren't in that yet. Correct. And so the black and brown kids, I'm trying to get them into it, too. Because at some point, like you said, you've got to learn about it. Because if not, then the streets are going to teach you about it so if either your parents are going
Starting point is 00:05:27 to teach you or the internet's going to teach you and we can't have that happen the scariest thing about firearms and especially all the laws is the laws change so much right and that is the the biggest and no one tells you about it nobody tells you research it and that is the biggest fear i have with my daughter carrying a firearm or my wife carrying a firearm or even myself because the law something will change overnight and you don't know yeah and you'll be driving with your firearm and you get locked up and there's no way around it that is the scariest thing so what what do you see as as problems when you face with trying to teach all these not only men but people of color about firearms right so i make sure that because everybody says they got a gun but nobody knows how to use it nobody knows the
Starting point is 00:06:01 laws associated with it and i always say ignorance of the law is not an excuse. Right. They still lock you up regardless. So I make sure that I keep everybody updated. As soon as something changes, it's on my social media. So people know, hey, this is changing. We need to do this. We need to do that.
Starting point is 00:06:14 I tell people all the time how to carry in their cars. I'm in the state of South Carolina. We don't need a permit to have a gun. Like you need a permit to leave the state, but you don't need a permit in the state of South Carolina. New Jersey, New York, you do. Oh, yeah. Y'all not gun friendly at all but we're working on it jersey
Starting point is 00:06:26 jersey jersey a lot better yeah jersey's a lot better but we're working on new york um but um so i try to keep i kind of try to keep them up to date with how to do stuff because unfortunately we don't get the black and brown communities don't get the benefit of the doubt like other communities right and as soon as something happens with us that's a felony where in other you know other cultures that's maybe a intervention program of some sort. So I try to keep everybody up to date because if not, if I don't tell you, they're not going to look it up. And the police damn sure ain't going to tell you. And now you screw it up. You know, South Carolina has been in the top 10 states of women murdered by men for the last 27 years. You know, many of those years they were number one
Starting point is 00:07:00 on the list. And I've heard you say that violence against women is a public health issue. Yes. Why do you consider it that? Because I feel like women are the, especially black women, are the most unprotected in this whole entire country. In South Carolina, domestic violence is a joke. It really is a joke. I've had women that have come to me like they've been beaten, face broken, all kinds of stuff. And the guy got a thousand dollar fine and was sent home. It's not taken seriously. And so that's my, that's where I kind of come in and I'm trying to teach women how to defend themselves like we don't need a man to defend us because clearly y'all not doing it right there's a lot of men in the communities
Starting point is 00:07:32 that talk about protecting black women protecting women protecting women and then they don't do anything they're actually the ones hurting us and so I'm trying to teach women that you don't need anybody we don't need the cops we don't need anybody all we need is a gun and learn how to use it and we can be our own first responders pisses you off when you see these videos of like women being assaulted by men and the men just standing around yeah and they just they just record it and they don't do anything um and then everybody's in the comments talking about what they should have done but actually no one did anything but on the flip side of that right on
Starting point is 00:07:59 there's a there's a double-edged sword because on the flip side then the government will come and now you in jail because you were trying to help somebody else. So it's kind of like a flip side of what you want to do because you thought you was helping. And now you want to jam. If a woman is listening right now and they're interested in maybe a class and they're not from South Carolina, they're from what? First of all, what gun would you advise for a woman? Nope, because I believe that everybody should pick out their gun. So here's the thing about guns.
Starting point is 00:08:23 Guns are nonrefundable. Right. So you have to try them before you buy them. What works for me may not work for him, may not work for your daughter, your wife, whoever. So I'd say that a lot of people go towards small guns and they because when they go into these ranges when they go into these um gun stores all of them are ran by men and the men take them to the to the purple guns and the pink guns and the little the little piece of shit guns and they don't matter that's exactly where they take them and we can handle better than that so what i carry is a smith and wesson um shield plus i carry that it's a nine millimeter but i mean i could bust your ass with a.380. You know what I mean? So it doesn't really matter.
Starting point is 00:09:06 I feel like we, it has to fit the person. We have to try it out. Y'all need to know Robin's not a first generation shooter. She come from a long line of ass kickers and shooters. Just want to put that out there.
Starting point is 00:09:14 I was going to ask, you know, a lot of people feel like they need a big gun, right? They need a.40 caliber, a.45. Can you tell the reason why, like,
Starting point is 00:09:22 I carry a 9mm and the reason I carry a 9mm too is if I'm in the house and I got to shootmm And the reason I carry a 9mm too is If I'm in the house and I gotta shoot somebody in the house I don't want it to go through the wall Whatever you need a little deuce deuce in your boot Well you know what 9mm is very popular
Starting point is 00:09:34 But then people get killed with.22s I have some women that a.22 is where they are right now He's laughing at me right Because back in New York you couldn't carry a gun But in New York was very very deadly A lot of crime of crime as growing up as a teen right so we used to go to the club we used to I used to carry like a little tutu and his Manolo Blahniks first of all he my Manolo Blahniks and my shoe because that would be the only way that I can walk around with the gun they made fun of me but they don't know that a tutu could do damage like anything else in front
Starting point is 00:10:01 of it I bet you he won't stand in front of it. Let's try it. I bet you he couldn't get it out of his boots and fasten it up when something went down. I can't. How about that? So I think that the gun has to fit the person and we won't know until we try. So like for my company, I offer a service called Try Before You Buy where I bring eight to 10
Starting point is 00:10:18 of the most popular concealed carry guns and we sit there one-on-one and we try every single one. So that way when a woman goes to the gun store, they are confident in what they came to buy because if not they're gonna try to talk you into this little pink gun over here so when they walk in they say no i want the glock 43x no i want the glock 19 they are very aware of what where we are because we already did this process i like the glock the glock is the short handle glock is good easy to nobody can see it when you
Starting point is 00:10:40 put a shirt over it but i noticed with a lot of women is it's hard to conceal that gun so but women have to all right y' So, but women have to... Alright, y'all ready? So women have to use what you got, right? So women can use their breasts to conceal, everything like that. We have different ways of doing it. We just can't do it like guys because we don't wear what guys wear. But there are different ways to conceal that you
Starting point is 00:10:57 would have no idea that there was a gun on this woman. Do you like conceal or open carry better? Like what do you think makes people feel safer? I don't believe in open carry. I believe that your gun should be your surprise no one should know that it's on you until it's actually time to pull it out and get to work i don't believe that we should just be walking around with guns some of the laws that that let me get your opinion on it right so in certain malls right right they don't allow you to have a gun in in in the store right what do you think about like you know malls not allowing you to carry a weapon
Starting point is 00:11:25 or certain areas where you would need it, right? Because, yeah, you might not need it in the mall, but then when I got to walk to my car and when it's dark as hell outside
Starting point is 00:11:33 and I got to get to my car and try to put my key or open the door, that's when somebody's going to get me. That's when somebody's going to try to rob me or kidnap me or hurt me.
Starting point is 00:11:39 I believe that we should be able to have them in there. Especially, I believe that we should, like, forget the parking lot. We need it in the mall. The mall be having all kinds of crazy stuff going on there shooting is going on you don't know who's in there all tell people with
Starting point is 00:11:49 mental health issues we don't know what we're gonna run into so I believe that we should have it in the mall I believe we should have it in the movie theater I believe we should have it everywhere because I went to the movies the other day and I couldn't even feel comfortable because they said like no concealable so I left my gun in the car right I'm law-abiding and so I left my gun in the car, right? I'm law-abiding. And so I left my gun in the car, and the whole entire time I kept thinking, if something happens right now, we're screwed. Like, if somebody came in here,
Starting point is 00:12:10 like the guy who did the Batman movie, like, we are screwed. I was looking for exits. It was only one way in, one way out. And I said, I couldn't even enjoy the movie. You know, I saw you say one in three women in the U.S. will experience domestic dating violence in their lifetime. So would you encourage women to take guns on the first date?
Starting point is 00:12:25 Yes, absolutely. You never know who you're meeting up with, especially these dating apps and stuff like that. You never know who this person really is. There's been a lot of like serial rapists connected to dating apps and stuff like that. So I would highly recommend that a woman, but not just have a gun, know how to use the gun, right? A lot of people have guns to flex with,
Starting point is 00:12:45 and they're not knowledgeable about the actual gun. So I believe, yes, you should have a gun on every single date. On the 54th date, there should still be a gun. How would you encourage women to get, or just people in general, to get over their fear of firearms? See, that's where I believe the instructor, I feel like whoever you team up with, that's where that comes into play. Because if you team up with somebody who's
Starting point is 00:13:05 macho macho and think we about to join the military tomorrow, then you get turned off by it because you're already intimidated. So I believe that's where you have to find an instructor that you vibe with. So my whole business is a vibe. We're a vibe. I have a vibe check. You can't come unless you pass the vibe check. I've turned down people because their vibes
Starting point is 00:13:21 don't match my vibe. What's the vibe check? Ratchet yet educational. You know what I mean? So like, but I've had this, but so yeah, the vibe check, I've had people come and they're here for the wrong reasons, right? They're here, they're here because they, they are malicious. They're here for not, they don't want to learn how to protect themselves. They want to learn how to do damage to something else because they got something else going on. I'm not here for that. I'm here to teach women how to defend themselves against threats that may come your way. I think reps, too.
Starting point is 00:13:48 I think the more you do it, the more you get used to it. Yeah, the reps, yeah. I think the first time anybody goes into a range and you shoot that one time and it's loud, it scares the ish out of somebody. Well, and it also depends on the gun that you shoot for the first time. So I start everybody off with.22. It's as low as we can go. I start everybody off then as a confidence builder. And they say, oh, this wasn't as bad as I thought it was going to be.
Starting point is 00:14:04 And then next thing you know, we move up to a 380, right? So it goes 22, 380, 9 millimeter. And we slowly work our way up that ladder. And then when they're next, next thing you know, they do have a 40 or 45 because we took that process together. I do believe when somebody uses that firearm, it should be to kill. Yes. I believe that. Don't pull it out if you ain't serious about it.
Starting point is 00:14:23 Okay. Because, you know, a lot of people, and I could tell a lot of these people that don't have firearms they always say well you can injure somebody shoot them in the leg shoot them in the arm but see the the thing about it is right when you when you pull out your firearm to use it you are trying to truly stop somebody correct right so if you shoot them at other places their adrenaline can keep them going through things like that so I teach women about organs I teach them about like placement because what we're trying to do is drop the blood pressure if you drop the blood pressure you drop the person and so that's what we're trying to do so we're trying to hit you in
Starting point is 00:14:51 organs every single time where can we hit we only got one shot we got to make it work the arm ain't it hold on that sounded sinister you said drop the blood pressure yeah so you teach all your people how to just shoot to kill yes okay Yes. Damn. Welcome to Chicks for Triggers. So you teach all your people how to just shoot to kill? Yes. Okay. But I deal with a lot of domestic violence. That's what law enforcement does too.
Starting point is 00:15:12 Law enforcement, they shoot to kill. When you pull your firearm out, it's to kill. It's not to injure, it's not to- But that's what they don't want though. That's what a lot of activists don't want. They don't want you to- But what she said, when that adrenaline is running and somebody's coming towards you, you want to make sure you eliminate-
Starting point is 00:15:24 The threat. the threat. Right. And they still keep coming. So, I mean, that's what I train women to do. Like I said, I deal with a lot of domestic violence victims like stuff you couldn't even believe it if I told you right now. So I've had women had to use their firearms to defend themselves. And that's how we train. We train the way it's going to be. We're not training for your arm. We train it to put you down. What changed? Is the concentration on victims of domestic violence
Starting point is 00:15:46 solely or just women in general? It's women in general. It's women in general. However, once I started, all the domestic violence victims started coming. And they all,
Starting point is 00:15:55 like, they didn't feel comfortable taking the men's classes. They didn't feel comfortable sitting in the classes with all the men. So they started finding chicks with triggers.
Starting point is 00:16:01 And then they come and even the, like, at the local ranges, they'll say, women never talk to us like they talk to you. But it's a different vibe. You know what I mean? So they come to me and at the local rangers, they'll say, women never talk to us like they talk to you, but it's a different vibe.
Starting point is 00:16:06 You know what I mean? So they come to me and they say, listen, this man is stalking me. He's trying to kill me. I've had that a million times. You know, this man had me in the hospital and I was on a feeding tube for three months. I've had that a million times.
Starting point is 00:16:15 Or he's getting out of prison and he said, like he already called and said he's coming. So we got to get ready. The only thing I don't like about a lot of states where they allow you to have a firearm at a young age or 21, you know, you don't need a permit or don't need a license is I feel like everybody should have to take a class. Right. Yeah. Now. OK, so I do agree with that. I believe that you have to prove you should prove that you're competent. But not only that, you should know what the consequences are. Right. A lot of people you get a firearm. I remember I got my first firearm at 21. I went to university at 21. you could get a gun in virginia so i got my first handgun at 21
Starting point is 00:16:47 i don't think i was mentally capable of owning that gun right because at that age anything you mean you could get into a fight in the club and i'm automatically going to grab my firearm but you don't necessarily know the consequences of right what that means and i think i mean if you have to take a class to get a license you know you have to take a class with so many different things why shouldn't you have to take one to to get a license, you know, you have to take a class with so many different things. Why shouldn't you have to take one to get a firearm? See, I believe that you I believe that you should at least have to take a class. I really do believe that. I know a lot of there's a lot of organizations that don't believe that.
Starting point is 00:17:17 Like you should just be able to go buy a gun. Now, granted, in South Carolina, we could just go buy a gun. You don't need a class. But my direct clientele and most women, they want the class. It's the men that's the problem. Most women want the of okay i had this gun for however long but i don't feel comfortable using it because i don't know nothing about it so it's just been sitting in the box and that's where we start from there i might even have a program it's called learn your gun um it's for women that already have a gun and they come and it's a four-week program and every single week they come and we learn so week one we learn how to break it down take it apart what are all the names called what are all the parts called then the second week is malfunctions if it jams what are we going to do
Starting point is 00:17:47 like we can't just say excuse me sir you know before you rate me can you give me 15 minutes um and then the third one we go for accuracy that's where i talk about the placement and stuff like that we go to the shooting range um and then the fourth one we learn how to clean it and oil it and keep it keep it functioning properly what change do you think most men don't want to go to classes because men think they know everything. That's facts. Men think that guns are just built into them. A lot of men do that.
Starting point is 00:18:11 A lot of men at the Rangers, they don't know they ass from their elbow, but they out here shooting and giving people advice and the target look a mess. You should be embarrassed. I was going to ask,
Starting point is 00:18:19 what changed? Because a couple of years ago, all my life growing up, guns weren't allowed in certain states, but in the last couple of years, it's opening up more for different states. People are allowed to carry. So what changed where people are actually allowed?
Starting point is 00:18:32 For instance, I lived in Jersey, I think, 20 years or something like that, 20 years. For 18 years, I tried to get a firearm and I couldn't get it. Two years ago, the floodgates opened up and I was able to get it one, two, three. So what changed with the world where people are now allowing people to own firearms? I think people got tired. I think people got tired. You know, I think that once once COVID hit and everything like that, like people was worried. People saw all the evil in the world. And I think people are just tired. They don't want to play victims anymore.
Starting point is 00:19:00 I have women that are in their 80s that come and take my class, hands to God. And they come and take my class and they'll say, you know, we never thought we would be here. But this is where the world is right now. So the world changed. You know what I mean? And we're going along with it. So I truly believe in guns. I believe everybody should have a gun. There's a lot of politicians out there and stuff that don't believe in guns. But I'm telling you this right now, all of them have armed security guards. But they're telling you you don't need a gun and we don't need guns in these neighborhoods. Why they go to their armed houses with armed security guards and their kids are at armed schools.
Starting point is 00:19:26 You get what I'm saying? So I believe that everyone should have a gun until you prove that you're incompetent. And now we've got to take it away. Now, do you think everything should be on a national scale? Meaning, see, another big problem is the rules in New Jersey are not the same rules that are in Virginia, which are not the same rules in South Carolina. For somebody who carries a firearm, it's difficult to go through every rule and regulation for each state. And a lot of people get caught up for that. They have a legal firearm, but you're in the wrong state.
Starting point is 00:19:52 Yeah, you're in the wrong state. So that's where the, I think that's where like the permits and stuff come in. That's where knowing reciprocity. So reciprocity is an agreement between states saying like, if you let our residents come over here with guns, we'll let your residents come over here with guns. I think that's part of the education because i always tell people in my classes you have to follow the rules of the state that you're in not the state that
Starting point is 00:20:10 you're from and that's what people don't research people don't research when you're driving through these places how is this gun supposed to be where is it supposed to be etc etc and that's where they get jammed up do you notice any men in your life change the way they approach you because they know you got a gun? I think they always thought I was crazy, Charlamagne. I'm just going to be honest with you. I think they always thought I was crazy. But no, I think that, you know what, though, when I first started Chicks With Triggers, I think that a lot of men, especially in South Carolina, they thought it was a joke.
Starting point is 00:20:40 They thought like, because they think down on women. They think women, like what can a girl possibly know about a gun and I think now that they've seen what we can do it's changing because women are not playing anymore women are not being the victims anymore like we are busting ass out here and I think now it's starting to change now I've seen I've seen your pictures of your classes on Instagram is hundreds of people there what was the first spark that made you say this is what I want to do? I want to turn what I know into, you know,
Starting point is 00:21:08 actual teaching experience. So it was, for one, it started during COVID and everything was going crazy and they was kidnapping women from Greenville in Charlotte. They was kidnapping women and they was throwing them in white vans and stuff like that. And I said, you know what? I'm going to teach women how to defend themselves.
Starting point is 00:21:23 Like, I wonder if they know how to use a gun. And every single girl that I asked every single friend that I had they said my boyfriend knows how to use it my husband knows how to use it but they didn't know how to use it and I said well how does that help you if they not here right and then so I thought about it I played around with it um and then I went to the range I went to the shooting range because the range was deemed um what was it essential okay the range was essential during COVID in South Carolina and I went to the range and i um i'm short right i'm little and the the the thing was up too high for me to put the target up and it was these two white men next to me and they said i said can y'all put the target up
Starting point is 00:21:55 because they they raised it and i'm too short and they said okay and they said be one day once they did they said be careful don't hurt yourself and i was like what the fuck like what you mean that rubbed me the wrong way and then then after I started shooting, they was quiet. They was looking, and they was quiet, and they was quiet. And their target looked a mess. And on my way out, I said, now, y'all be careful, and don't hurt your fucking self. And when I got in the car, I called him.
Starting point is 00:22:14 I called my father, and I said, I'm going to teach women how to use guns. Because that rubbed me the wrong way. What you mean don't hurt yourself? So you did all head shots after that? I mean, you know, I can't reveal my tactics. You know what I mean? We on air. I can't reveal my tactics. You know what I mean? We on air. I can't reveal my tactics. You know what I mean? It might come back.
Starting point is 00:22:32 So how can women in your area get their firearm lessons? So I do it for the state of South Carolina, North Carolina and Georgia. So I do all over. They can contact me. And if you're not in South Carolina and you want to come to South Carolina, I'm always open to do groups. I'm always open to travel. I'm all over the place. So if they want to come to South Carolina, I'm always open to do groups. I'm always open to travel. I'm all over the place. So if they want to come down, we have beautiful shooting ranges. It's very welcoming as far as like New York versus South Carolina. Like you could damn near get a gun at the Welcome Center to South Carolina, right? So I always encourage women to just reach out. There is no sign my on my website because everyone has to pass that vibe check so when you fill out an inquiry form you have to then talk to me and I gotta know what's going on in your
Starting point is 00:23:10 life and I gotta know I gotta feel you out first and then if I if you pass that then we move on to the next level which is actually booking the class do you help women in the process of getting licensed and purchasing yeah so I do license them so I like some do the state of South Carolina. So I get them. Oh, you do the license. So, I mean, well, state of South Carolina do it. But I'm the one that signs off on it to let the state of South Carolina know, hey, she can have a license.
Starting point is 00:23:31 Does that make sense? Absolutely. And so I sign them up for the concealed weapons permits. And then after that, we do, we go through the process of purchasing a gun, finding the right gun for them. If I have to go with you to buy it, I have done that before too, because they don't feel comfortable walking into the, like, Palmetto that before too because they don't feel comfortable walking into the, like,
Starting point is 00:23:45 Palmetto State Armory. They don't feel comfortable. So if I have to go drive in my car and go with you, then we walking in there. You know, I'm not licensed in South Carolina, which is crazy.
Starting point is 00:23:53 South Carolina. Well, we don't have reciprocity. Right, yeah. South Carolina, Illinois, California,
Starting point is 00:23:58 and Oregon are the states that I can't carry. Yeah, we don't have reciprocity. Which is crazy. South Carolina, I was telling you, I can't carry,
Starting point is 00:24:03 when I travel to South Carolina, I can't carry my firearm. But you can drive through it and go to Florida. No, I ain't playing. Yeah. We don't have rest of the property. Which is crazy. South Carolina, I was telling you, I can't carry. When I travel to South Carolina, I can't carry my firearm. But you can drive through it and go to Florida. No, I ain't playing with y'all. That's legal. I promise you. I see a red.
Starting point is 00:24:11 South Carolina is a red. It's red. Wherever it's red, I ain't. Nope. I'm not putting it on a plane. I ain't messing with y'all. You can drive through.
Starting point is 00:24:19 But yeah, so I am. But a lot of men come to me too, which is crazy. A lot of men come. Like I just had a group of like eight guys last weekend and they all came. But again, I think it's because it's the vibe and a lot of men of color don't want to go to the white instructors.
Starting point is 00:24:35 So they come, even if it's girls, they coming over here. Is it possible for you to face liability? Like if a woman you train, you know, uses her gun and like misuses her firearm, would that come back on you? So listen, we sign waivers.cha gotcha four pages worth okay um but it is um i guess i don't see how it's possible because we have a standard list of what we are allowed to teach and what i taught you so you sign off on that before and that goes to the state and i keep a copy so there's no there's no question about what this person knows because i taught them this in the class they took it on on the test. You got to do all of this stuff. So what you do after you
Starting point is 00:25:08 leave is your business. I mean, I taught you to, I can, I can only do what I can do. What success stories have you had? Like meaning, you know, sadly a woman was assaulted and they were able to defend themselves. Um, I had a woman that a, um, a man, a man that she knew, um, broke into her home and she had to use her firearm and she killed him and I asked I remember asking her afterwards I said I said well you how do you feel and the first thing she said to me was she had never said in two years to me was I finally feel free like I'm not scared anymore I'm not looking over my shoulder anymore I feel free and she said I never thought I would feel like that because for the past eight years this is how I felt
Starting point is 00:25:43 and so he would stalk her everything because it's not even if they stalk you right it's hard to get a restraining order and a straining order is just a piece of paper the cops are not here to protect you so we have to do it ourselves. I feel like especially with domestic violence it's only gonna end one of two ways right domestic violence is out of control right now and it's only gonna end one of two ways either men are going to step up and say you know we're not gonna do this anymore we're not gonna beat women anymore we're not gonna treat them like this anymore which that hasn't happened yet or women are going to step up and say, you know, we're not going to do this anymore. We're not going to beat women anymore. We're not going to treat them like this anymore, which that hasn't happened yet. Or women are going to step up and they're going to say, you know, we're going to be our own first responders.
Starting point is 00:26:10 And if anybody poses an imminent threat to me or my family, we're going to put them down. And that's what I teach them how to do. How else do you think women can protect themselves while they're waiting on the process to go through to access a firearm? Knives. We teach knives. We teach self-defense. There's so many different ways you don't. It doesn't always have to access a firearm? Knives. We teach knives. We teach self-defense. There's so many different ways. It doesn't always have to be a gun because a lot of places you can't even have a gun. So what are we going to use?
Starting point is 00:26:32 So we teach them stick fighting. We teach them where to hit. We teach them knives, how to stab, stuff like that, things that you can use around your house. We teach them to be prepared from every single angle. Can we talk about the background? Because I know people hear that and they'll be like, what do you know about all of that? I know about a lot. Can you talk about the background? Because I know people hear that and they be like, what you know about all of that? Know about a lot.
Starting point is 00:26:46 Can you let them know who your father is? Okay, so my father is retired NYPD and he's also grandmaster of modern Vigissa, which is a martial arts system. So we kick ass around here from every single angle. You know what I mean? Every angle, you're gonna get your ass whooped. Every single way we can.
Starting point is 00:27:04 Professor Robert Evans, you've heard me talk about him, I've written about him in my books, great mentor of mine. Yes, he is that, he is him. So don't think Robin don't know what she know. Don't know what she talking about. We appreciate you for joining us this morning. Thank you so much for having me. Love it.
Starting point is 00:27:18 And what's the information? Everything is Chicks With Triggers. So Instagram is Chicks With Triggers. My website is chickswithtriggers.com. Facebook is Chicks With Triggers, but Facebook blocks me a lot Triggers. My website is ChicksWithTriggers.com. Facebook is Chicks With Triggers. But Facebook blocks me a lot for all the guns. So if you want to have a good time, Instagram lets me live my best life. All right.
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