The Breakfast Club - INTERVIEW: Rocsi Diaz, Terrence J & AJ Calloway On BET Awards '106 & Park' Anniversary, Webbie Incident +More

Episode Date: May 8, 2025

Today on The Breakfast Club, Rocsi Diaz, Terrence J & AJ Calloway Discuss BET Awards  '106 & Park' Anniversary, Webbie Incident. Listen For More! YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@BreakfastClubPower1051FMSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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as well. And we got some Rosa's in the building as well. And we got some special guests in the building. Yes, indeed. We got some family. We got Roxie Diaz. This is people's childhood in here. We got Terrence James. Yes, I'm so excited.

Oh my god. We got another guy, AJ. You know AJ. Oh! We got AJ Kip. What's going on? Oh my god. I'm talking about hate.

That was insane. That was insane. That was insane. Shout out to Hampton Institute. Damn. I forgot Howard. This is all my family. I'm just joking. This is all my family. We got AJ, Rox, and Terrence.

Welcome, guys. What up? How you doing? Good. 106 and Park. Like Shailamay said, you guys were our childhood, our adult life growing up. Definitely mine.

I'm so excited, happy. Does it feel like it's been that long? Envy is older than us. I know. So I don't know what he's talking about, our childhood. Envy was grown with grandchildren. That was our childhood. Free and AJ, that was our childhood.

We was growing as hell when Free and AJ was on TV. Same age. 2000. OK, well, I was growing. Exactly. No, but that was growing up. Exactly. When that happens all the time, I'm in the store and people got walkers and they're like, yo, I grew up watching you.

I was like, you were grown. That's what it felt like. It felt like that. Especially because y'all were connected to some of our favorite artists and a lot of people saw them in different ways for the first time with you guys. I skipped school to come,

remember y'all used to have the line where you would line up to get in? It was like first come first serve. I skipped school in Delaware, got on the bus to New York to come and watch 106th and Park. You know I got there and y'all wasn't even filming that day. Crazy. And I got home and got my behind what your ass gave. That's right. So breaking news, we weren't live every day. I didn't know that. As a kid, I didn't know that. I was like, oh my God, I'm going to 106th and Park. Yeah. But y'all are celebrating 25 years. Yeah with a reunion at the BET Awards. Yes. Yeah, what's that gonna look like?

It's gonna be special. It's gonna be beautiful. I don't think all four of us have been in the same room Free couldn't make it she really really wanted to be here I'm just curious. What are you talking about? Free and AJ era was iconic. They were all longer than us. I'm just curious. I'm just curious. I'm just curious. I'm just curious. I'm just curious. I'm just curious. I'm just curious.

I'm just curious. I'm just curious. I'm just curious. I'm just curious. I'm just curious. I'm just curious. I'm just curious. I'm just curious.

I'm just curious. I'm just curious. I'm just curious. I'm just curious. I'm just curious. I'm just curious. I'm just curious. I'm just curious. I'm just curious. I'm just curious. What are you talking about? Freeing AJ, was iconic. They were all longer than us. Listen, you gotta understand.

So in order to understand 106, you gotta understand technology and communication, right? The world was changing from 2000 to 2014. All this new technology, you know, Instagram, Facebook, YouTube, and all of these things, yeah, were coming on the scene. And so 106 & Park was the global hub for all of this, right? When they started, if you needed to see the number one video in the world, you had to go to BET's 106 & Park. The new artists, 106 & Park.

The breaking stories, 106 & Park. Sports, fashion, technology, everything. 106 and Park was the hub for it. And so there wouldn't be what we were without Free and AJ at the end of the day. So we always tell them they're the originals, they're the OGs. I think different generations grew up with different hosts and so everybody likes to pick favorites but when it comes to

all of the hosts together we just know that we're part of this amazing family that you know was able to be such an influence on the culture that you know to this day to be honest with you to this day I still get more people that like are from the 106 and Park family that are now our A-list celebrities and stars that come up here, you know, because of those connections from then that, you know, they still, they stick with you for so long. So we're just so appreciative of the foundation

that we were able to come from and build. And there was no platform for black and brown people. No, no, no. Especially not a prime time when that was getting number. Not at all. No, no, no, not at all. Back then, and it was crazy. Because we honestly didn't know what we were creating.

I was a club promoter. I was throwing parties. Where at? Come on. You've been in the club. You've been in the club. He wasn't outside. So he was doing a sit up here and criticized us.

He was sit up here and criticize, well, really me, about being out, and he loves to act like he needs everything out. Oh, he was outside. Please help people. He was outside. Please describe. There was no time.

He was outside. I used to have Wendy host, oh my god, what is my Wednesday night at Cheetah? When Kevin used to come. Cheetah in Atlanta? No, I had before my time. You know that infamous picture was actually taken at one of your clubs, man.

That was not. I was at the radio station in the studio. That's when Charlamagne was sitting on Wendy's lap. Was that one of your clubs? This is about the 106 Park host this morning. Damn. This is a party? This is a club?

You were sitting on Clue Lap in the DJ booth. You better stop. Wow. Wow. Wow. AJ, you saw that before, right? You know people that haven't seen that. You better stop it.

So the BET Awards. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you, man. I didn't know you were a promoter. So you were a promoter. Exactly. And he had no idea. Yeah.

New York was mine for a long time. OK, so from promoter here in New York, Q106 and Park, DC. Yeah. Because of Howard. So what happened was BET was looking for a host at that time. They already knew Free. Well, Free was already picked.

And actually, shout out to George Daniels, George Daniels, George's Music Room, he introduced me to BT Executives. And I took them around, and that's how it all happened. Took them to a couple of the parties, and then they had me audition, and literally like three weeks later, I was on live television green, crazy.

How difficult was it for you, because you didn't have any history in that. No, not at all. Not at all. I mean, it was crazy. I mean, I was getting a lot of hate. You had, I can't even remember their names. The morning shows were coming after me. I remember.

It was nuts. Oh, yeah. Oh, they still remember. I can't even remember. But honestly, what's with the BT hat? They used to call you the Predator. The Predator. Long-hand, like they killed me.

They killed you. I remember that. I remember that. I remember that. I gotta give it up for Stephen Hill because he had my back. And then long story short, the same dude that was talking about that mess,

I ended up running into him at the garden, and he's like, oh, you know what's so funny, games, will you manage me? Wow. And I was like, aren't you the same? And what happened was B.T. had just put a big spend with them, but they were like, they had a commercial to get me fired off the show.

Damn. On the radio station. Oh, I remember that. Oh, look, it was crazy. It was crazy, but anyway. I took care of that for you, light work. We took care of that later. Thank you, DJ Envy.

I took care of that for you. I know, I know. No, but to answer the question, to go back to this question, there's no competition, there's no, I mean honestly, these two people right here held it down for a longer time and with a lot of pressure on them. So to be able to do that and to hold it down

with style and grace, gotta take my hat off to them. Yeah. How seamless did Free and AJ make the transition process? We were gone. So yeah, there was a period, they were already gone. Tigger and Jaleesa were super gracious and Mad Links and everybody that was around at that time were gracious. But it was challenging.

We stepped into these iconic shoes with people that we grew up watching. So there was a lot of initial hate. And we came from nowhere, because we were part of a new Face Search competition, were people that we grew up watching. So there was a lot of initial hate and you know. And we came from nowhere. Cause we were part of a new face search, you know, a competition, a challenge. So it was like, Terrence and I really leaned on each other

because we both knew that nobody understood what we were going through more than each other because we never had done television before. I came from a radio background and he did radio as well, but you know, like we won a contest to host the biggest show on a network. And it's like, and it's big deal. Everybody need mama more dollars.

I had thousands of dollars of student debt to pay back from North Carolina A.T. and was sleeping on Fred's couch at the time down in his basement. And so we were sleeping in the car. We were just trying to hustle to make it. And we just had this dream and ambition. And so to see the show go to where it went and to be a part, you know,

we were a part of all these iconic moments, all of us, right? From when Michael Jackson passed to when Barack was a senator when Obama was a senator You know all of these Anywhere we went, Tyron. Tyron. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Tyron, yeah. Halle Berry and Free with the catwalk. Aaliyah.

You know, Kobe Bryant, like all these. We've had moments. All these shells tumbling. Yeah. Listen, all of the blind furry moments. I don't care. All of the blind furry moments. All of the blind furry moments.

Oh my God. Jen, Jen, Jen. Jen, Jen. Jen is huge in China. Fire. Keep the Black Thursday. Jen. Jen. Jen is huge in China too now. I was about to say, what happened to, are y'all still watching those people who used to come through the Freestyle Friday movement and where are they at now? What happened?

Well, Jen. Jen, I've contacted him on social media and stuff and he's big in China. He had his recent meeting. Jen had his recent meeting. Yeah, I talked to him. A lot of these artists are still doing it and then a lot of these people that will come on the show turns into DJ Khaled, you know? It became a hub where different DJs,

different music personalities, dance competitions, at pro style, everybody would just come to 106. When y'all left the show, AJ, did BET even tell y'all? Did y'all find out on MySpace, like, or in the blog, the tabloids, like we did? She said, yeah. Cause from what I read, leaving the show was, there was behind the scenes,

like you felt like creatively things weren't right. I'm turning around at BET, like, it was online, it was like contract stuff, it was creatively, it was, but why? Yeah, why? It was time. I mean, back then, no, it was time. yeah why it was time I mean back it no it was time I'll just say that or can I say wait maybe there's a book coming out I don't know possibly so we'll finally get the answer maybe I mean the answer was it

was time for me personally it was it was time I made the decision honestly that evening it was my last contractual day. And yeah, I walked in the, you know how they do prep office? I walked in the office, all the producers there. I was like, it's my last day, whatever we prepping, it ain't gonna work. And they thought I was playing, because I played all the time. And that was actually my last day.

And it was crazy, because I still remember as Mariah Carey's Shake It Off, it was like the new joiner of the day. That's crazy. And that's when I was like, I'm making the right decision. Did you and Free playing at the Delta? I don't know.

Okay. Please no. Got you, got you, got you. Can I say something real quick about Free though? Because you guys asked the question about the transition. Free has always been a girl's girl, and she reached out to me, because she knew, she was like,

okay girl, there's the curse of the couch. Amazing. And this is what's gonna happen, okay girl, there's the curse of the couch. Amazing. And this is what's gonna happen, and this is what's gonna go through. And Free handheld my, she held my hand through a lot of stuff that went there. So nobody get out, and all of the girls,

we're all close, but the women of 106 and Park have always kept in touch. And to this day, I mean, Julissa and I just went on vacation. Kiesha Shantay and I go to the same nail salon and you know, see each other. Me and Free Talk all the time. So just for reference on that,

like kudos to Free because she really, really, really looked out for all the girls. And for us, she always calls us Free Angels. She's like, y'all are my girls. I'm like, all right, Free. But you know but she just, she really is a girl's girl and really, really, really looked out.

I mean, even to like who the best hair makeup person was. Like those things that you don't know, especially when you're not on TV, you don't know these things. So she, yeah, shout out to Free. How long did it take y'all to get chemistry like between y'all, you and Free, AJ, and also between you and Terrence Rocks?

Ours was kind of instant. Again, we came in through new faces. between you and Free AJ and also between you and Terrence Roxie. Ours was kind of instant. Again, we came in through new faces. So we came in through a whole different, we had no choice. Roxie's really easy to work with in that way though. It was seamless. And again, it was that the world was just different

and we were so hungry to just be able to pay our rents on time and just be able to do these interviews. And so, yeah, we were having fun. Our life was changing. We were in our twenties. It was great. It was a great time when I look back at it. Yeah, it was fun.

No, no, it was, again, Terrence and I were a different situation because there really didn't have to be a chemistry test. We were so happy to get the show. And like I remember we had the phone call with Steven and he was like, so y'all are the hosts. And we're like, wait, what? And I had the worst audition process that whole week. Like it was terrible. So the fact that he even got to where it was. But so you didn't even know you had, you didn't even think that you had it after auditioning. have to audition it. Well when we

Because it was like ten of us that the new faces and then they picked five to stay on the network So even to have made it to the five I was just like what yeah, like, you know, this is crazy We didn't even know that that was up for grabs. We didn't know that they were looking for the new host of 106. We had no idea, Tigger and Jaleesa were doing the thing. Also, when it was you, Terrence, Alicia Renee, Lamar, and Jaleesa, they just said- No, Jaleesa wasn't part of New Faces.

She was already on. She was already on. Oh, okay. Jaleesa was already on the network. Jaleesa and Big Tigger right after us. Yeah. So who was the fifth one? Because they had to, like literally that next day

they had to figure it out cause I was not supposed to leave when I left. Shameing, shaming. Shameing, shaming. I don't remember shaming, God bless I remember. One thing I gotta say about both of them. But you went free chemistry, how did y'all develop it? It just, I mean it happened from the first time

we did like a test interview till the first time we were on show. I mean, honestly. And then the first guest, Bustin Rhymes, was... Oh, that's awesome. It was a lot of fun. When it really clicked, I think honestly was... They surprised us with Whitney and Bobby.

We were doing a read, and they had Whitney and Bobby walk out behind us without telling us. Wow. And it was crazy. Because Bobby's from Boston and Whitney's from Jersey. So it was just like a crazy, amazing moment. And it was just like, okay, we're doing something.

Because it was crazy. We were up on 106th Park and, you know, if you've ever been to Metropolis Studios, it was just, it was different. I never felt like y'all was hosting a show, which was a good thing. No, to me, I felt like I was hosting a party. I hosted a party every day for people at home.

I went back. I watched your first break on air, and it was good from the beginning. We were horrible at the beginning. No, no, no. The initial break... At least I was. It was horrible. It's on Free's IG page. It was like the show just had a thing about it.

And like I said earlier, there was just a global connection that was happening at this time, right? You got kids from Japan, you got kids from London coming to Harlem, coming to 57th and 10th to see this show and these stories from Delaware driving down, it was just all connecting and then it birthed so many different things. So now when I meet Speedy Mormon

or I'm sitting down with Pretty V and they're telling me, hey, we were watching you and Roxy growing up or we were watching AJ and Free, it's so amazing that it's just transcended time and so many people have been able to, you know, build careers and do creative things and make money and feed their families, you know, off of this show.

We had amazing producers, amazing people, you know, behind the scenes working hard every day to make it happen. And we had the best fans in the world. And that was the best part. Y'all remember your first guess? Cause you said Busting R was the best part. Y'all remember your first guess? Because he said Busting Rounds was his. Do y'all remember your first guess? I feel like it was Busting Rounds too.

You was early. Jamie Foxx, Janet Jackson. Jesus. They came in. They came in. They came in hot. I was sleeping on the couch. I didn't have an apartment in New York yet.

So I was still damn near homeless when I interviewed Janet Jackson that day. And I remember like me and Roxy, our dressing rooms were right there. We was like, we were just so nervous. And it just, we still can't believe that we're part of this legacy. Everything happened so fast.

We literally got the call and then it was like, you guys have to be in New York and like not even like two weeks move and I'm on radio in Chicago at the time and I'm like I gotta move my whole entire life like this is this is happening and this is happening fast. So let you quit Chicago Radio? No I started doing I was doing my radio show from a studio at at the 57th and 11th studios. So they gave me a radio room and so I was broadcasting. I would do hair makeup, go down,

tape my midday show for Chicago, go back up, do 106 and Park, go back down, tape more shows. Like I was pre-taping a lot of shows and then we would do, and then so many things started happening in between 106 and Park. Then we had 106 and Park radio. So we would tape that in between 106 and Park then we had 106 and Park radio So we would take that in between 106 tapings and stuff like that. So so yeah, this is when they work

So when we look at all four of you are doing such amazing things and the diversification of your brands is phenomenal. At that stage, it wasn't like that. It wasn't like that. It was. Do you remember the conversation I had with you when you started? I told you to diversify, do all the stuff. Yes, you did.

Yes, you did. You were always very gracious and very, the way you passed the torch, you took, like it was a lot of. Well, he took it to another level. TJ? Absolutely. He hustles, TJ hustles.

Honestly, because I remember the conversation. Privately, I've said this to you, and I'm saying it publicly. You literally took it to another level, and that is a beautiful thing. Because it opens up for so many people. And I know you walk the street, and people are like, I'm in news because of you.

I'm in entertainment because of you. What that show did, probably the craziest thing, and it's actually happened more than once. I had a guy come up to me and literally almost break down in tears and say, he's alive because of 106. Damn, what episode was that? He said, no, no.

The geniuses. The geniuses. No, the came back. They weren't. They weren't some heavy-headed. He wanted to be inside to watch 106 and all of his friends were on the corner and they shot up the corner and killed all of his friends.

So literally every one of his friends died. That's crazy. He was like, I'm the only one alive. Wow, wow, wow. So just the impact of bringing kids inside. That's true. He was like, I'm the only one alive. Wow, wow, wow. So just the impact of bringing kids inside. That's true, yeah. From the, you know, cause the streets are crazy at times.

Cause people had to sit down and watch it. I looked up a fact. Yeah, appointment television. That's funny to think about. 600,000 views per episode on minimum you guys were having during AJ and Free on 106th and Park, according to Google. That's a lot of people sitting at one time.

And you had to watch it because there wasn't no internet. So you had to go watch it. There was no social media. There was no internet. There wasn't like, you know, T-Vo and all that stuff really was crazy. The commercial, I forget who made the commercial. I love to remember because the kids were dropping the bikes. Like 106th and Park is going on.

Yeah. Yeah. So when I was in elementary school, we used to play, they used to play it for us in the cafeteria on a projector. Like, you know, you hear like gym would be everybody's favorite, nah, lunch was everybody's favorite period because we used to watch 106th and Park and eat our food, well I never eat the food, it was trash. But 106th and Park was cafeteria time, lunch time, every day.

That explains so much about Baltimore. That's what they would teach you all in school. Here we go. Listen, she was in prison. Here we go. Listen. And in prisons. I met. Oh my god, the jail mail. Like prisons, you can't. There was crazy jail mail.

So much jail mail. You could have changed off of BET. Shout out to everybody who wrote to me when there was lack of jail mail. Wait, wait. Jail mail, jail mail. We don't get jail mail anymore. We used to get crazy jail mail.

We still do. Like that? Funny story, I was honestly. Oh, you don't get no more jail mail? Oh, you're jealous? You don't get no more jail mail? Why? You do a guy drew a jam? You don't get jam? You do a guy drew an envy naked one?

I was doing that. What? A guy drew a picture of an envy naked in me? What? Wait, I got questions. Are you posing like this? I don't know. I hope he's doing that though,

because now he's not gonna see me. I'm gonna give y'all a crazy honest story. Debra Lee, I was at an event. Debra Lee was there, Martha Stewart was there. I shouldn't be telling this story. And Debra wanted to meet Martha. And he goes on. Debra Lee was there, Martha Stewart was there, I shouldn't be telling this story. And Debra wanted to meet Martha. And I interviewed Martha on X-TRA a couple times and I was like, I know Martha, she's

super cool. So I brought her over and I was like, Debra Lee just Martha Stewart. And Martha was like, oh my God, I love BET. When I was locked up, that's all I could watch. She ran down, she was like, Rap City, 106 and Park. That's hilarious. Comic view. That's so funny.

It was in a hilarious moment. Fuck the Stewart. It was a hilarious... How did y'all deal with it? Because I was just saying before y'all came in, after 106 and Park, the only other place I can think of that has those cultural moments that people remember good or bad is Breakfast Club. Oh yeah.

Thank you. That's why you got the job. Thank now... That's why you got the job. Thank you. That's why you got the job. That's why you got the job. Thank you. But now... No, you guys really are. Like, everybody's always like, 106106. It's like, the Breakfast Club is the... is what, you know, was missing.

It was you guys. So just FYI. Culture. Culture. Highlighting us. Yes, culturally, definitely. Highlighting us unfilteredly is something that I don't think America has a lot of right now. And you all do it in a great way. Thank you. With good chemistry. But to us, unfilteredly, is something that I don't think America has a lot of right now. And you all do it in a great way.

Thank you. With good chemistry. No, I brought that up because I was saying, now we got the internet. So it's like when moments happen here, it's super huge. With y'all, it was happening on TV, but then like turning TV off, you go home or did you or not, right? How did y'all handle those moments? Like I know there was like the Webby thing that happened, Roxy, Terrence, you walking on stage, Roxy, y'all handle those moments? Like, I know there was like the Webby thing that happened,

Roxy, Terrence, you walking off stage, Roxy, y'all here together now, we would love to hear about that as well, but kindling those. Protects me at all costs, and that's what I'm gonna say, and I'll protect him at all costs. And I don't like bringing up anything that was like, that's not what I wanna remember from the show,

because that's not even worth our time right now. The show was more about celebration than it was about drama. So those 360 days or whatever, because we were a 365 show. You know, it was always, there's always things that would happen, but if there's one thing that I could say

about this man right here is that he protected me, you know, at all costs. Listen, you know, it's such a celebration now, right? And when you bring up any of those things, it's all love, it's all love. And there's no hate, and there's no beef now. Like, there never was back then either. Yeah, there was no beef.

When I saw the report, well, in looking at it now, as a person that's doing this and I saw the Webby thing, my first thought was whatever happened, it had to be a protection thing on whatever part. And the reason why I brought it up is because I think people don't understand, like you said you were sleeping on the couch and you got the job. You were working in radio and then boom, everything happened. In real time, you just have to adjust to being in front of everybody and figuring that out.

In front of a live audience. In front of a live audience. It had to be tough. In front of a live audience also. In front of a live audience, right? In front of a live audience. That had to be tough. So when I'm seeing what I perceive as a protection thing, and you kind of just said that, in front of the world, I don't know, how did you guys, mentally, how are you dealing with that at the time?

Because y'all are kids, too. Yeah, look, we'll pivot out, but listen. For me, Rox, like, it was, yeah, anything that had to do with Roxie was always a protection thing. But shout-outs to Webby. It's love, man. This has been decades. We're all adults.

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Yeah, no, 52. 52. I adopted my son as a single mom because I kept thinking, oh, I'm going to meet the guy, I'm going to meet the guy, I'm going to meet the guy. I finally was like, what am I waiting for? And I did it. And I'm just so glad that I did.

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No one understands how it's, I'm not just a TV show. There would be times that I was like, I don't even want to go out to the grocery store because I feel like I know what they're thinking about me. And that was scary to me because I've never been in a dark place for that long. You've always taken care of others. Have you discovered anything about why you've seen yourself take on that role in so many relationships in your life? How do you even find the courage to trust again?

Listen to On Purpose with Jay Shetty on the iHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. He gave us the advertisement we said, and we're going to pivot. Yeah, so we're going to pivot. We're going to do Terrence J. I've had this for a long time. And what else you working on, Terrence? Listen, man, money talks, man. What else you working on, Terrence? But I do remember when you walked up to set,

you said it was publicity time. Y'all didn't even brought it back. Yeah, that was. You brought it back. Because I don't want people to think that was a real thing. About me and him? Yeah. Oh, yeah.

Yeah. No. We were blurring the lines of reality. This was early reality TV, no. We were blurring the lines of reality. This was early reality TV, right? We were blurring the lines. Me and Roxy were sitting in Steven's office and was like, why don't we try this as a scripted thing? We were coming up with creative.

People were talking about it like it was, you know, poppin' popcorn, right? So it was, yeah, me and her have always been right here. There was never. There was never, ever, was, yeah, me and her have always been right here. There was never... There was never, ever, ever, ever between me and him. And even to this day, like, protect him at all costs, you know, at the end of the day. And we never hooked up. And the only reason why I bring that up is because Roxy is such a professional that it...

You're such a professional. Well, I appreciate that. Let me say this before y'all ask me, okay? Wait, wait, wait. I think he's getting somewhere. He said, let me say this before y'all ask me. Your ass. Yeah, well, you know, with women in it,

sometimes you try to throw it out. No, no, no, no. That's not a way. I'm just talking about the way he's handling the interview right now. And I'm not, yeah. No. Yeah, she's a rich, like, she is.

Calm down, spicy. Calm down, spicy. No, because as a woman, she wants to understand why you took it away from her real quick. He threw it to her, and then you took it away. No, go ahead and finish, Terrence. I know what you're saying. I know that y'all are professionals.

I think I said what I needed to be said. You know, the show was special, and we're just so happy that we get to celebrate it. 25 years. 25. VET awards. 25 years, and people still want it to come back. People still talk about it. People still talk about it. 25 years. 25. VET Awards. 25 years and people still want it to come back. People still talk about it.

But that's the thing. Like, every day. Right. I'm one of them who wanted it back. But do y'all feel like, honestly, it would be a success in today's digital? Like, will 106.5 exist? I bump back against, and it's crazy,

because the TV execs have arguments about it all the time if a video show would still do well in a world where there's YouTube, and I honestly believe that it would. But that's just my opinion. It's just so expensive. It is. I don't think the video show will do it. A lot of people say,

people argue, because you can get videos free, but the conversations, and you gotta think about- Before you only could get videos there. No, no, no, but listen, you gotta- Now I ain't gotta wait for your audience to think. It's above that, because back then, artists had to come and talk about their video. They had to come and talk about their music.

And it was like segments to that. And I think that honestly improved the music. Like labels were like, we can't put this out because we gotta... They're gonna end up on the couch talking about this. If you think about some of the stuff that's out now, could I have three segments with an artist talking about what they're saying on that record? I think it improved music, but I think that's necessary and needed. I don't know if it's a 106 and Park, but it's a show that's needed. And then also on 106 and Park, what people weren't even really realizing, we were so

excited about it and I still would be, but they didn't even play the whole music video anyway. No, they cut it off 30 seconds they got to a point where it was like 20 seconds Oh right that was something We used to argue about that It was about the host, it was about the segments that y'all had, the people y'all had, the energy between y'all like how y'all Just made it even like how y'all would show y'all audience sometimes and I'd be like, oh my gosh I used I was cracking on people a long time

I used to watch y'all audience like It was so many things about 106 and Prog. We had some time when there was no audience members. We had some time, we had a school upstairs. Metropolis, we would literally pull students down sometimes because we didn't have any audience. This is at the beginning. We would do a show and there'd be nobody in the audience and they would do canned tape of an audience before,

and we would have to have all the energy, and we're talking to nobody. So there was a lot of things that, you know. You don't even know. Oh, yeah, yeah, no, the stories are crazy. How did it feel having, or at least for Terrence and Roxy, how did it feel having more fame than probably money? Because I'm sure the fame shot off faster

than having actual bread in your pocket. Yeah, you know, their financial literacy wasn't a conversation of discussion. I didn't have a bunch of financial mentors at that stage of my life. So when you're famous, right, or people recognize you for what you're doing, because famous is a word I don't love to use,

but you don't have the funds. Now you have imposter syndrome, right? Now you're trying to keep up. This is when the birth of bottle service in the nightclubs popped off. So you're trying to wear things, you're trying to do these things, but you don't have the means to do it.

TJ was outside back then. Yeah, we was. Right. There was a lot of. Y'all was outside. You was outside too. We was going to Yelp clubs. I know, that's what I mean.

We was outside. We was going to Yelp spots. I know. Greenhouse, shout out to Greenhouse. Yeah, but the money came. I mean, it was a cultural revolution. So it all came really fast. The dope thing about, I would say is, not your era, but we all came really fast. The dope thing about it, I would say, is not your era,

but we were all coming up, I feel like New York in the 2000, 2005, 2010 was a bunch of people coming up at the same time, so we all ran with each other. And I just thought that was dope, we all looked out for each other, we all cared about each other, we all moved in the same circle, so it's like watching y'all now,

it's like y'all brothers and sisters to me, because we were all there. We were in fights. We were doing this. Like we did it all together. And thank God there was no cameras back in the table. Thank God. Thank God.

Everybody. Charlamagne tried to fight me. Charlamagne tried to fight you? Charlamagne tried to fight you? No. Charlamagne tried to fight me. Panatomine. These two used to knock it all out. I don't even remember what happened. Where did this happen? It ended with a hug. It ended with a hug. It ended with a hug.

I used to be on Wendy's show and I used to be Gunn and Terrence and Roxy, right? And so I was up there with Wendy. Being messy just like your godfather. Shut up. And so Terrence came up to me and tried to shake my hand and I said I can't shake your hand because I know I'll be there with Wendy. Being messy just like your godfather. Shut up. So Terrence came up to me and tried to shake my hand. And I said, I can't shake your hand because I know I'll be talking about you. And that would be fake of me.

So Terrence sat down. He put his hat on back because he said, you know what? Yeah, I respect that. But it ain't me. Is that really you wanting to punch you in the face for what you be saying about my co-host? And I was like, bro, I'll fuck you up in here. And then everybody was like, y'all go in the bathroom

and talk. And that's what we did. You went in the bathroom and talk, and that's what we did. You went in the bathroom and talked. But he was protecting Roxy. He didn't even care about what I was saying about him. He was protecting Roxy. But who won the fight? And TJ, you know what I'm saying?

TJ's shirt will always be off, right? Right before he's about to fight. TJ and Fred were not in the shade at all. And that's how you know they're about to fight. He's the staring guy now. He's the staring guy. I'm the DJ. And I see no shirt on TJ. Yo, go help TJ. Go help TJ. He's a staring guy now. He's a staring guy. I'm a DJ. And I see a little shirt on, DJ.

Yo, go help TJ. Go help TJ. Me and Terrence never fought. If I saw Terrence in a fight now, I would help Terrence. Lord, when we left the room, it ended with a hug. I have so much respect for Charlamagne then and now. What Charlamagne has done is incredible. And it was respect.

And I think that started our friendship. It was like we had that moment, and then we dapped it up. And it was so was respect and I think that started our friendship was like we had that moment and then we dapped it up and it was so much respect after that. Y'all almost did a show together right? It was EP in it. It was me, Duval, and Angelina. We actually shot the final for B&T. A lot of it was jealousy though I'll be honest like I remember walking up to Terrence one time at the miss this was when y'all was in Harlem at Mission Impossible and I had just got with Wendy and I don't know why I wasn't appreciating my blessing at that time because I'm with Wendy and I'm like,

yo, Wendy, I'm gonna take your job. For no reason. You walked up to Zayn and I was like, are you my buddy? Are you my buddy? No, but honestly, that speaks to, no, no, no, no, that speaks to what I was going through back then,

but just like you didn't know, I didn't know, I wasn't in the industry. There were a lot of people that wanted that television shot. So when we got it, when I said there was a lot of pressure on anyone who's in those shoes, there were a lot of people that wanted to be on television that feel like I did the work, I should be there.

I deserved to be there, yeah. You know what I mean? But I hadn't done the work, I was just hatin'. Yeah, but you know what's case, I remember that. I remember that, I remember that. And I, but I didn't take it'. Yeah, but you know what's case, I don't know. I remember that, I remember that. But I didn't take it like that, man. When I saw you and looked in your eyes, I saw that there was a hunger there,

and I saw that there was an ambition there, and I just felt like as black men, it wasn't our job to tear each other down. I'm happy that you're successful. You actually said, come and get it, motherfucker. I didn't mean to say that. This policy, you do it now. I didn't know. I did, I did. He turned into a black person. Yeah, T.J. He's do it. I did. I did.

He turned into a bad person. Yeah, TJ. But it was, New York was competitive. And you would, you know, when we walk down the street, it was like... This is a different side of TJ. Because back then, TJ would get into it. I can't even imagine that. Look at the...

I can see the shit going on because of the cute thing. AJ, are you Greek too? You're cute? We're both Cues. Okay, so even that, when you got, once you came across the line, the HBCU connection and things like that, how did that help back then? Because it's so, like everybody talks about HBCUs and stuff now, but then when it wasn't as talked about, how was that connection then, knowing that you had it, bro?

Oh, it was, it was, having Omega Psi Phi with my back was unbelievable. Coming from a black college, coming from ANT, you know, being a member of Omega Psi Phi, and then the bros was like behind, you know, supporting Roxy too. So anytime we would do events, anytime we would do parties, it would be all of my line, all of my line brothers would be there, show up. Like we didn't have security back then. And so, yeah, we would be hosting on TV on a Friday, and then we would be in Detroit, New Orleans, Baltimore. The Carolinas.

Carolinas all over on the weekends. And it was the frat that was moving around with us, supporting us. Terrence and Fred ain't backing down from nobody. I don't know about this line he talking about, but them two, they was who. You can mention it Fred, but it's like, that was another thing that was really special during TJ and I's time.

It's like, again, we came together totally new. Terrence had Fred and I had Chantel. And it was us four. And for those that know to this day, it's still us four. It's still us four. Like, and for those that know to this day, it's still us four. It's still us four. So yeah, we had an amazing, we had to have an amazing friendship system,

support system around us because all of our friends, like to what, to Envy's point, we were all doing this for the first time at the level that we was doing it at. Like, when we was DJing in Boston, it wasn't even like at the level of we was doing it at. Like when we was DJing in Boston, it wasn't even at the level of what we were growing at. And at that time in New York City, in Charlemagne too, it was just different.

We were all trying to really, really get it and hustle. And there was no YouTube, Instagram, get found virally. You had to have talent. That was it. You had to have, you had to know how to do the job. So, so yeah. And the great thing about both of y'all, not that they don't have talent. You had to have, you had to know how to do the job. So, yeah. Not that they don't have talent. You and Terrence was always so embracing

why everybody else was hating. Like, so it's like, I met Terrence after we had that incident, and I'm like, damn, he actually cool. And me and Roxy ended up living in the same building. Roxy gives me a copy of the Alchemist. She embraces me like, like, I'm like, damn, why the fuck was I ever hating on these people?

Well, you're a very angry little man. No, I was an embryo. Your weight's probably one tiny bit in there. I like that race of your guy. It was special to me back in the day. But I bet you there's a lot of people, to your point, AJ, that was just hating and jealous. But they won't admit it.

They might admit it now. But back then, it's like, who are these people on TV? And I'm not. Just get them. That's therapy, Arashola. I like that. Up under. He was Lil' Wendy.

That's what they called him. That's why they was calling him Wendell. And Free That's therapy door, Sharla, I like that. Up under. Yeah. You was a little windy, that's why they was calling you wind down. And Free told me to tell y'all, I love them deep, and ain't nothing like being a part of the 106 fam alongside AJ, Roxy, TJ, Tigger, Julissa, Bow, and Keisha. See y'all at the awards show, you dig? Yes. So now what are y'all doing at the awards?

Let's break that down. And she also told me to keep asking AJ where Free is. Because he hates that. I get asked that. I get asked that. No. I know she gets asked that. How many times do you get asked that?

I get asked that. All the time. You got to make things up. Five times a day. They ask me that all the time. All the time. Like he's getting a change. I could be in Africa.

It'd be like where's Free? Like he's getting a change. What did Free say? He said he's getting a change. I can't name that. I can't name that. I can't name that. I can't name that. I can't name that. I can't name that. I could be in Africa, it'd be like your words, Free. Be like he's getting a change. Free, Free. Free, Free. What did Free's name mean?

Like one of the African names? I don't know what her name is. Yeah, you don't know that, right? Free, during Free's time, Free was, Free herself, her name and her, she was like one of the most popular names of, I don't know what list it was that came back in the world like Black man in America and free with King the King magazine cover with free on the front. Yeah So you

So what are you guys doing? What are you guys doing? What are you guys doing? What are you guys doing? What are you guys doing at the BET Awards? To celebrate We are celebrating 25 years of this landmark show BET's 106 and park We have a lot of surprises There's going to be a lot of special announcements and it'll be the first time all the hosts are coming back to be on stage together. It's gonna be a beautiful reunion

and we're just, we're so humbled. We're so appreciative of this time in our life. To be able to celebrate this together, it's amazing. I lost my dad about a year and a half ago. And thank you. And when I lost him, it just it really gave me perspective on time, you know, and when you have time to spend with the people that you love. And furthermore, when you have these celebrations where this is not just about us, this is about

BET as a network. It's about the culture. It's about the fans. It's about all of you. Like, 106 is everybody's show. Everybody voted on this show every day, right? This show means something to so many people. And so we're just excited that we get to all come together and I can't wait for y'all to see the surprises

and surprise performances. Man, we got some performances that... It's gonna feel like the show all over again. It's really getting honored. It's not just a moment. It's a chance. So, honestly, I got to... Mr. 106 and Price. Honestly, I got to take my hat off

because I was there from the beginning of BET to where it is now. And for BET to do this, I think is pretty amazing. You know, to give tribute just to the whole franchise in a whole, it says a lot. And it's just, like Taryn said, it's just an amazing thing for that to be happening. And y'all need a documentary too.

It's been a lot to be here, because it's 25 years ago. Oh, 100% me. Y'all need a documentary. One of these people need a documentary. It's in the works. Okay. In the works. So I wanna talk categories.

Uh oh. Okay. Yes, so best new artist and album of the year categories. I wanna talk about that right here on the Breakfast Club. That's an easy call. Who? Best new artist is Dochi, it's not even close.

Best new artist is Dochi, I agree. Is she in a category? She should be in a category, right? I don't see her on my list. Are you asking them for that? it's not even close. Best New Artist is Dolce, I agree. If she in the category, she should be in the category, right? I don't see her on my list. Well, who's on the list? So let's read who we have for the Best New Artist. Y'all are welcome to take this over. She's not nominated for Best New Artist.

No, so Best New Artist we have. Was she nominated last year? Was she nominated last year? Yeah, so Best New Artist we have, Aria, Aria Star, Big A new artists we have, Eric. Who? R.A. Star, Big A$$ to Plug, Bossman D-Lo, D-Bills. You want water? No, no, no.

Thank you. D-Bills, Leon Thomas, October London, Shaboosie, Teddy Swims, and it says 401. Is that 401, the group from New York? No, OK. Not sure. This is a tough category, and so many of these artists have been around,

kinda, and it's just so many talented people. I can say I'm a fan of a lot of them there. Lena Thomas is there. October London. October London. Chiboozy. Teddy Swims, my goodness. We had Teddy Swims.

Big X and the Plug. Chiboozy. Big X and the Plug has had a great year. Yeah, he was performing when the Eagles won the Super Bowl at the after party. I love Ira Star. So that's a, they're all so, it doesn't even feel like- Pick one, this is a political answer. This is happening here first on the breakfast show.

I don't even feel like it's a new artist because they've been killing it so much. You pick one. I like Shaboozy. I think Shaboozy has had a hell of a year. His record was big. You feel like it's a new artist because they've been killing it so much. Me too, that's why I thought Doche would have been in that category. You pick one. I like Shaboosie. I think Shaboosie has had a hell of a year. His record was big. He's performed at country awards and crossover awards. Out of all of them, I like Shaboosie or Teddy Swims.

Yeah, I like Leon Thomas. But it's black so I gotta- I'm upset, I love Teddy Swims. Do y'all not feel like if it's Teddy Swims we gonna be upset? That's why I said Shaboosie. Shaboosie. That's why I said Shaboosie, forget the white guy.

Salute to Teddy, if he had a good year, he had a good year. But it's a BT award. I love him and I love him too. Teddy. Shaboosie. I said Shaboosie, forget the white guy. Sleuthe Teddy, if he had a good year, he had a good year. But it's a BET award. I love him, Teddy did have a good year. BET's a big ex-a-plug. I would do probably Shaboosie or Teddy Sweet. So AJ, you going big ex-a-plug? Pick one.

I like them all. You seem got too bump big ex-a-plug. I do like big ex-a-plug. My son likes big ex-a-plug. So like, a bat song when he grows up, he's hittin' me. What about album of the year? So we got some sexy songs for you, Drake and Party Next Door, 11 11 Deluxe,

Jess, Chris Brown, Alligator Bytes Never Heal, our girl Dolce, Cowboy Carter, Beyonce, Glorious, Glorilla, GNX, Kendrick Lamar, Hurry Up Tomorrow, The Weeknd, and We Don't Trust You, future Metro Boomin'. You told me they supposed to pick which one. Now this category is real good. Alphamaddy here is very good.

Don't give political this. Whoever doesn't give an answer, gotta take a shot. It's only between two for me. It's only one for me. There's only one answer for that one. What? Y'all already know. No.

Glorilla. G and X. Alphamaddy here? Glorilla or Kendrick? Who's had the best year of any artist? Kendrick. GNX. Album of the year? Glorilla. You guys had the best year of any artist? Kendrick. Chris Brown. Chris Brown for so many years.

I knew he was thinking like me. I say Kendrick. Who has had the best year of any artist? It's Kendrick. It's Kendrick. Beyonce. It's Kendrick. It's Kendrick.

Terrence? I'm going to let you finish by Beyonce. OK. Staying safe. Staying safe. That's right. If you don't know what Aida Terrence says. So that's my answer. Kendrick has had, I mean he's on tour now with SZA.

I'm going Kendrick or Doche. I'll say, yeah, I did not stop listening to Kendrick's album. Right, exactly. I'm not even gonna lie. Especially being in LA. This moment in time for Kendrick, I mean it's kind of undeniable. But I loved Chris's album too. I cannot even lie to.

Kris is just- And Doe Shees album. And Glowrilla. Glowrilla, yeah. Glowrilla, yeah. Yeah, yeah. And I love Kamala Carter, so this is a challenge. I'm just dope, but the year Kendrick is at- They're all dope.

They're full of momentum. And I love Matches and G&X, I think is what they're saying. Yeah, they're all dope, but the year Kendrick is at, it's like, you can't- I'm switching my answer. Glowrilla. Well, listen, June 9th. I will say this. I'm switching my answer to Glorilla. Well, it's a June knife. I will say this.

I wish that there are a lot of times, and I'm glad that I'm still able to cover carpets and still work in this industry. I tell like a lot. I told Glorilla. Icon in this industry. I'm like, thank you. I told Glorilla.

I said, you're the kind of artist that makes me wish I was still on 106 and Park, because I would have so much fun Having you up there because they would have been so some of the artists today I wish we still had a platform like 106 it would have been fun to at that time to interview them Who outside of global do you also think that about um let's see. A lot of like the Afrobeats people right now. Like I love Burner. I love Wiz. You know, Davido. Like I'm heavy in Afrobeats right now. Like I really love that whole movement.

And so I would have loved to have had, you know, them up there. Like Lizzo, we didn't have to, we didn't get a chance to have a Lizzo up there, you know? There's so many artists and they'll say to me too. Big Lizzo or Little Lizzo? Jesus. Lizzo, Charlotte. You know Lizzo entered that realm

where we can talk about her like Luther. What? Remember we had a big Luther and a little Luther. Take him outside again. Take him outside. Big Luther, little Luther? Remember we had a big Luther and a little Luther. Can't do that no more.

Yes we can. Gotta respect her weight. So with that said, we're excited. We're about to say Karen J. Yes! can. God respect her. So with that said, we're excited. June 18th, June 9th. Yes, right now. Poppin' champagne. We poppin' champagne early.

Here you go. 106 and Park, 25 years. We're also, we're celebrating, the Breakfast Club. We're celebrating, there's a synergy here. That's right, absolutely. We're celebrating, it's early. We're proud, we're excited to be here. Thank you. And it's a beautiful moment. So let's get, we're gonna get some. Oh my proud. We're excited to be here

Champagne let's do it get some flutes going You told me ingestives for us. I did it It's a Lauren ingest moment We celebrate we celebrate We're going to Jess moment. You know what I'm saying? We celebrating. We celebrating wins. June 9th, APS, DTS. What the hell you gotta put out there? I gotta put out there, starting a podcast finally, Out of the Park dot life, Out of the Park, O-U-T-T-A-T-H-E-P-A-R-K dot life.

What you doing with it? You in free? To be announced. Oh, okay. Okay, you in free? We're free at it. We're free at it. We're free at it. That's what we're doing. We're free at it. We're okay. Okay. Not you were free. We're free. We're free. is actually not here today. All right. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning.

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Hey, I'm Jay Shetty, and I'm the host of the On Purpose podcast. And I'm excited for my next episode with Khloe Kardashian. God, I've been through so many things that at this point I would rather not feel than feel because feeling is too much for me to handle. I am Khloe Kardashian. Khloe Kardashian, everybody.

Khloe Kardashian. No one understands how it's, I'm not just a TV show. Listen to On Purpose with Jay Shetty on the iHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I found out I was related to the guy that I was dating. I don't feel emotions correctly. I collect my roommates toenails and fingernails. Those were some callers from my call-in podcast, Therapy Gecko. It's a show where I take phone calls from anonymous strangers as a fake gecko

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