The Breakfast Club - INTERVIEW: Ryan Destiny Talks 'The Fire Inside,' Claressa Shields, Acting & Music, Keith Powers + More

Episode Date: December 13, 2024

The Breakfast Club Sits Down With Ryan Destiny To Discuss 'The Fire Inside,' Claressa Shields, Acting & Music, Keith Powers. Listen For More!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information....

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hi, I'm David Boren. And I am his dear friend Langston Kerman. And we host My Mama Told Me, a podcast about black conspiracy theories. We just did a spectacular live show with some of your favorite comedians on the planet. David, tell them who was there. We had the Kid Mero, Marie Faustin,
Starting point is 00:00:19 and we had Jaboukie Young White. Some of your favorite comedians playing some of the most offensive and groundbreaking games. So listen to My Mama Told Me on iHeartRadio app, Apple podcast or wherever you get your podcasts. We want to speak out and we want this to stop. Wow, very powerful. I'm Ellie Flynn, an investigative journalist, and this is my journey deep into the adult entertainment industry.
Starting point is 00:00:47 I really wanted to be a player boy, my doll. He was like, I'll take you to the top, I'll make you a star. To expose an alleged predator and the rotten industry he works in. It's honestly so much worse than I had anticipated. We're an army in comparison to him. From Novel, listen to The Bunny Trap on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. in comparison to him. From Novel, listen to The Bunny Trap on the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Starting point is 00:01:07 Hey, I'm Jay Shetty, and my latest interview is with Wiz Khalifa. The craziest part of my life, I can go from performing in front of 40,000 people to either being in a dressing room, being in a plane, or being back in a bed all by myself. He is a multi-platinum selling recording artist, mini mogul, and an actor. Which of them are the one, the only? The Wings of the League!
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Starting point is 00:02:40 Ooh, I know that's right. Wake that ass up. early in the morning. The Breakfast Club. Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy, Jess Hilarious, Charlamagne the guy. We are The Breakfast Club. We got a special guest in the building. Yes, indeed.
Starting point is 00:02:58 She's been all over the news the last couple of days. Ladies and gentlemen, Clarissa Shields. No, I'm just kidding. I'm just kidding. She's actually playing Clarissa Shields in the new film, The Fire Inside, which comes out Christmas Day. Ladies and gentlemen, we have Ryan Destin. Welcome.
Starting point is 00:03:10 Good morning. How are you? How you feeling? I'm feeling good. It's an early morning. I'm on LA time, so it's really early. Oh. Is it hard to get up and do press?
Starting point is 00:03:20 Um, a little bit. Okay. Sometimes if the timing is weird like that, just because I'm used to a different time zone. But other than that, I'm good. How long ago did y'all film the fire inside? That was in 2022. Wow.
Starting point is 00:03:32 We started to film in 2020 right before the pandemic, but then we got shut down and then all that. The writer's strike as well with 2020. So we popped back in 2022. Were you boxing? I'm sorry, were you a boxer? Were you a boxer or were you training? So you had to learn boxing.
Starting point is 00:03:48 How difficult was that? Cause I seen the preview and I'm like, Jesus, you. When Clarissa was here, she said that was the thing that had to be on point the most, the boxing. Absolutely, yeah, it was very nerve wracking. But it was a lot, I think, just because I wasn't a boxer or just an athlete in general, like that wasn't my thing. But I think it was good because I was a little scared
Starting point is 00:04:12 and that helped just me go for it even more, you know? And I trained for months with my boxing coach. And he was like textbook boxing coach. I sparred a little, but also we had the studio being like, don't hurt her. So it was also just them not wanting me to actually get hurt. So you think you got hands in real life
Starting point is 00:04:31 or just on the street? Everyone keeps asking me that. I really don't know, y'all. I feel like, yeah. Well, I mean, you clear us of now, so it ain't you in New York. Right. Remy Ma might run down on you. Right in New York.
Starting point is 00:04:42 I'm in the right place. I'll submit you in Papu. Huh? I feel like everything will just, like, disappear if I actually have to get into it, Mike. So I don't know. We'll see. Maybe disappear like you would.
Starting point is 00:04:53 We'll know. We'll not see. Like, you would run, or you would just get into? Like, I just feel like you go blank. Like, you know? Like, I don't know. This is just a role to you. This is not what you want to do.
Starting point is 00:05:02 You don't want to box. Yeah. Yeah, like, if it's on camera, for sure. But outside of that, what you wanna do. You don't wanna box. Yeah, yeah. Like if it's on camera for sure, but outside of that, I don't know. I don't do this. Have you ever been in a fight in real life? No. No, never.
Starting point is 00:05:12 And that was one of the first things Claressa asked me. She was like, have you ever been in a real fight? I'm like, girl, no. Absolutely not. That's not me. And that scared her a little bit at first, but after she actually saw it, she cried all the things and was really happy.
Starting point is 00:05:28 How did you get that? Did you audition for that or they just picked you? Oh my God, no. It was an audition process like anything else and they saw so many people and I knew it was gonna be competitive just because the story itself is incredible and also the people behind it are really great.
Starting point is 00:05:44 So yeah, it was just like the regular thing, and I didn't think I was gonna get it when I went into it, which I think helped, because I didn't overthink everything, you know how I usually do, so. Was it tougher to prepare for the role mentally, physically, or emotionally? Because if you know anything about Clarissa's life,
Starting point is 00:05:59 she had a very, very, very rough time. So mentally, physically, or emotionally, what was tough? It was all of it. It was all very, very new and different for me, and just a challenge across the board, which I liked. I wanted that. I wanted something that would push me and do something that I've never done before,
Starting point is 00:06:17 have people see me in a different light. That was something that was very important to me. But mentally, I think that was something that I had to really hone down on because having the confidence of an athlete is just a whole nother beast that I don't think a lot of people think about. And then having the confidence of a boxer
Starting point is 00:06:39 is another level, you know? So I just wanted to make sure I could grasp that because she's just superhuman to me, you know, so I just wanted to make sure I could grasp that because she's just superhuman to me, you know, so yeah, all of the things were very, very difficult. Mentally, I think that was probably the most, if I had to choose, so. How was, oh, good.
Starting point is 00:06:55 I was gonna say, how was Clarissa during the filming? Because she's very intense. Yeah. And when she was up here, she, you know, she talked about how she wanted to be perfect, like her life, right? So how was she, when, you know, was she easy to talk to and say, well, how was your life during this? Yeah, she was very how she wanted to be perfect like her life, right? So how was she, was she easy to talk to and say, well, how was your life during this?
Starting point is 00:07:07 Yeah, she was very easy to talk to and she was a really open book with me, which I appreciated a lot. There's also a documentary about her life that's incredible and it was like my notebook, my Bible on set, you know? I referred back to that so many times and it was so helpful because it's just so raw
Starting point is 00:07:26 and it's a front row seat into how she is with her family, her friends, with her coach Jason and it was so great to pick up on those things because it's one thing to talk to her as she is now and how old she is now, but she was kind of a different person too a little bit at 16, 17, you know. So to have that was something that I definitely went back to and was really helpful for me.
Starting point is 00:07:48 Was she on Settlelite? No, no. It was also still pandemic key times, but she was also training, I think, in that time, also in another country, so it was a lot of things happening, but no, she didn't actually go. How tough was it to release the spirit of Clarissa Shields, so to speak?
Starting point is 00:08:06 Mm, not too tough. I think it's still in me a little bit, but in a good way. I think I've walked away from this experiment with just a new confidence in myself that I don't think I had when I entered it. And I think that I have her to thank for that. You know, she is somebody that really speaks life into you and also speaks life into herself and I thought that that was something that I needed, you know, to have and to take and
Starting point is 00:08:36 I think that that stayed with me and stuck with me, which I'm really happy about. Now, I've seen the preview during, I think it was Wicked or Gladiator 2, probably both of them. Probably. So it said Christmas Day, right? And I was excited for the preview. I mean the preview was a long preview, I thought it was dope. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:08:52 But Christmas Day, does that worry or make you nervous or scare you in this industry? Because I'm like, Christmas is a time where families are together, they're at the house. And to come out on Christmas Day has to be like, I was like, why Christmas Day? Apparently it's a good thing. It's a good day. If you go to the studios, I was like, why Christmas Day? Apparently it's a good thing. It's a good day.
Starting point is 00:09:05 If you go to the studios, that's like a prime day for them. And I think it's also just because a lot of families don't have much to do and the theaters are open. And you know, everybody takes their family and like goes and has a good time. So I'm excited about it. I'm hoping that a lot of people do do that because it is something that I think is for everyone
Starting point is 00:09:26 in all ages, so everyone literally can go. So I'm hoping that that happens. I think it's such an incredible story that needs really to be heard and supported. So everyone go out. Go out. I'm gonna go see it on Christmas day. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:09:41 Because I got four daughters, so it's like once you open the gifts and everything, you ain't doing nothing but laying around the whole day. You ain't nothing else to do. That's right. Eating food. So, that's a good day. What is, because I know you love music too, you're a singer.
Starting point is 00:09:52 What do you like most, acting or singing? I can't choose. I really cannot choose. I really love both, and they both have a sense of freedom that I really appreciate, and just the creativity that I get to have with both of them and being able to push myself. It's very different. They're in two different worlds in my mind,
Starting point is 00:10:12 but I really do appreciate both. So hopefully, if I'm blessed enough to be able to continue to do both, I would love to do that, so we'll see. Yeah, because you got into music because of your dad, right? My dad is a singer, yeah, and he started when I was, you know, I mean he started way before I was born,
Starting point is 00:10:29 but I was in the studio with him when I was a baby and all those things, so he definitely inspired me. I don't remember the group he was in, and I'm old. I was born in 1978. Okay. I don't remember Guess. Not that old.
Starting point is 00:10:42 You remember Guess? I don't remember Guess. What was their song? You gotta look remember Guess. What was their song? You gotta look up Guess. They had a song called Shoe B, and a few other ones too. But you know, they didn't have a big, big moment. Okay, yes.
Starting point is 00:10:54 It was also, I think he started at Warner Bros, and then went to Death Row, and that's just a weird transition too, and I think that was their first time signing singers, I think, Death Row at that time. You think they went to Death Row? Yeah. I think that was like their first time signing singers, I think that's what the death row. Yeah, I think it was right before it was right before Everything happened with Tupac and Biggie. So it was not the greatest time And things kind of went a little left with sugar and everything but it was it was a great great great group He's so so talented and he's so, so talented,
Starting point is 00:11:25 and he's still singing and doing his thing today, so I'm proud of him. Did he want you in the industry? I think he just always supported it, you know? And he saw something in me, and him and my mom just always uplifted me and been there, and there to protect me too, because they also can see how crazy it can get, you know?
Starting point is 00:11:43 So they were always in my corner and always there. What's the guidance they've provided as far as this industry-wide? What's some of the best advice they've given you? I don't know if there's something in particular. I think it's just me making sure I'm protecting myself, and watching out for myself in these rooms, and especially within the music industry,
Starting point is 00:12:06 it can just get a little shaky. It's a lot better I think now because there's a lot more awareness around the weirdos that are out there. The freak offs. The freak offs. Yeah, it's a lot different now. People are checking it out and seeing what's wrong with it.
Starting point is 00:12:23 So, but before, people could get away with a lot more things. So I definitely made sure that I didn't put myself in any sort of position and knew when to walk away from something as well. And how are you and Keith? I know y'all were dating and then it was rumored, speculating that y'all broke up because y'all took down each other's pictures and things like that and we loved y'all. We loved y'all. So what then it was rumors speculating that y'all broke up because y'all took down each other's pictures and we loved y'all.
Starting point is 00:12:47 We love y'all. So what is the status with that now? We're really good. We're great. Yeah, and we support each other so, so much and what we're doing and the industry is just crazy. So it's nice to separate the two. You know, so.
Starting point is 00:12:59 So it was just a little bump in the road. Yeah, yeah, exactly. Because we get scared of stuff like that. We love y'all. Thank you. And I mean, we isn't like not had. Yeah, yeah. Exactly. Yeah. Now, because we get scared of stuff like that. We love y'all. Thank you. And I mean, we isn't like, not them, the girls, the people my age, because they go old. Yeah, I don't even know what you're talking about.
Starting point is 00:13:13 Yeah, exactly. That's why it was my question. Okay. Thank you. How much has your life changed over the last five or six years though? Like, you know, the success you had with Star, like, and you know, everybody wants a Star movie. We'll talk about that in a second. How much has your life changed over the last five or six years though? Like, you know, the success you had with Star, like, and you know, everybody wants a Star movie. We'll talk about that in a second. How much has your life changed over the last five or six years?
Starting point is 00:13:30 It's funny because, I mean, I started the process of the movie five years ago. So it's just been, it's just been a lot of ebb and flows, I think. You know, the pandemic has changed the industry a lot, and it's changed the way that I have seen myself in it, and having to maneuver how I go about things, if that makes sense. So it's definitely something that I've grown from, and I'm starting to just realize what's most important, and I have to remind myself of that a lot,
Starting point is 00:14:02 just because I think you can get caught up in just all of the noise noise and what you should be getting or what you haven't gotten yet. And so I think I'm just trying to go with my gut and continue to do things that I'm really proud of because with this project is probably the most proud that I've been of something. And I really want to continue to feel that way.
Starting point is 00:14:22 So I'm just letting that sort of guide me more than anything else. What does success look like for you in this business? I think it's kind of like what I just said. I really want to feel like I continue to do things that really matter and have an important message, and it doesn't have to always be so heavy, but I definitely want to represent for a lot of girls,
Starting point is 00:14:49 a lot of black women, and hopefully if I can be a part of projects that have a great narrative behind it and put us in a great light, then I'd be very, very happy, and hopefully that can continue to happen, but I think be very, very happy and hopefully, you know, that can continue to happen, but I think success varies and if I'm happy and I get to a point where I feel a bit more at peace
Starting point is 00:15:12 with everything in a way, you know, I'm also very aware of accepting the fact that things won't always be just positive and great all the time and I think, you know, getting more and more into that place is something that I think is successful in itself. Did you hear when Clarissa was up here, when she was saying at first
Starting point is 00:15:32 she didn't think you were good for the part, but then after I guess meeting with you and seeing, she was like, oh, you were the only person that can play that part? Yeah. So how did you feel when you heard her say that? I mean, I heard it before. You know, she was very vocal with me
Starting point is 00:15:46 when we first started talking. She told you, like, I don't want you to play me, Shardy. She was like, why you couldn't say nothing? She's gonna catch them hands. That's crazy. She was just like, well, she's really pretty, you know? Didn't really know what else could come from that. And I respected it.
Starting point is 00:16:00 You know, there's not like, there's this big amount of work that I have out there that showcases that side of me. This is the first of that. So I understood it and I knew that I was just gonna work, work just really, really hard on making sure that I executed it to the best of my ability. And hopefully I did that and her crying solidified that she approved.
Starting point is 00:16:23 So I think that I'm very, very happy with it all now. Was she closed off at first though? Was she closed off like, I really don't want her playing it. And then it kind of, she kind of broke down. I was like, oh, she really is dope. I mean, maybe, maybe to Rachel, our director, or maybe Barry. I don't know. I don't know who she was, you know, vocal about that.
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Starting point is 00:18:01 It features some of your favorite comedians in the world. David, tell them who. We got the Kid Mero. We got Marie Faustin. And we have Jaboukie Young White. Truly a phenomenal episode featuring some of your favorite comedians playing some of the most offensive and groundbreaking games possible. The audience was amazing. We shot it all in Brooklyn. You're not going to want to miss it. Let's get nasty. So listen to my mama told me on iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Starting point is 00:18:39 We want to speak out. We want to raise awareness and we want this to stop. Wow, very powerful. I'm Ellie Flynn and I'm an investigative journalist. When a group of models from the UK wanted my help, I went on a journey deep into the heart of the adult entertainment industry. I really wanted to be a Playboy model.
Starting point is 00:18:59 Lingerie, topless. I said, yes, please. Because at the center of this murky world is an alleged predator. You know who he is because of his pattern of behavior? He's just spinning the web for you to get trapped in it. He's everywhere, and has been everywhere. It's so much worse and so much more widespread
Starting point is 00:19:18 than I had anticipated. Together, we're going to expose him and the rotten industry he works in. It's not just me. We're an army in comparison to him. Listen to The Bunny Trap on the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, I'm Jay Shetty, and my latest interview is with Wiz Khalifa.
Starting point is 00:19:45 The craziest part of my life, I can go from performing in front of 40,000 people to either being in a dressing room, being in a plane, or being back in a bed all by myself. He is a multi-planetary recording artist, mini mogul, and an actor. Which among the one, the only, Wiz Khalifa! Did you feel like a big break was coming? I didn't know what that big break looked or felt like,
Starting point is 00:20:07 but I knew that what I was doing was working. The gang banging and the drug selling, that's not really for me. But the looking cool, the having girls, the making music, I'm like, I like that part of it. How was that experience for you? Losing someone so close to you that you love. I am grateful that I was able to have, like,
Starting point is 00:20:25 the last moments that I had, and to be able to prepare for it, and it was something that I'm still dealing with. Listen to On Purpose with Jay Shetty on the iHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Martha Stewart has been a household name for over four decades and still isn't done.
Starting point is 00:20:43 Join iHeart Media chairman and CEO Bob Pittman for a special episode of the hit podcast, Math & Magic, Stories from the Frontiers of Marketing, as he interviews this icon in front of a live audience to celebrate her 100th book, Martha, the Cookbook, 100 Favorite Recipes, with lessons and stories from My Kitchen. This intimate and wide-ranging conversation between friends covers the pivotal decisions in Martha's career, the philosophy that has guided her, and the source of so much of her creative inspiration. They actually looked at the July issue that I had prototyped
Starting point is 00:21:26 and they said, this is fabulous. What would you do next July? And I said, well, living is a limitless subject matter. Listen to math and magic on the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Really all the way to, but she definitely, like I said, she asked me if I could fight and I knew that scared her when I said no so
Starting point is 00:21:48 You she asked you that like why she just randomly Fight no it was fair. You know this is her life. This is her life story, so I really I understood the caution you know so I didn't take offense to it, but it definitely put some pressure on me. I was like she don't like this It's gonna be real real awkward um So I knew that it was important. How long did you train before y'all started filming? How long did y'all train before y'all even turned the camera on? So it was a little split up.
Starting point is 00:22:15 I did three or four months the first time, and then when we shut down, I had to do it all over again for three or four more months. So all in all, it was like six, seven months, I think in total, which I appreciate looking back on because before it felt like everything was crashing down when the pandemic happened, but I think that time really helped
Starting point is 00:22:36 and I went into weight training the second go-around too and it just made me even more sharp, I think. So it was good for me. Did the delays help or hurt? Did the what? Did the delays help or hurt the film? I think it helped. Okay.
Starting point is 00:22:51 It helped in so, so many ways. Even with Brian, he came in the second go-around. Brian Tyree Henry, paperboy from Atlanta. Yeah, yeah, he's so incredible, and I'm just so thankful that he wanted to do this as well and he really was someone that was just amazing to work with and like a brother to me now. So I love him and I think that we really hit it off
Starting point is 00:23:16 as soon as we met and I think it shows on the screen, which is really good and yeah, I'm excited for people to see that. Brian, do you feel like you get your just do as a young black woman in entertainment? Because you've been working for a while and you are one of them. Oh, thank you.
Starting point is 00:23:31 You know what I'm saying? So do you ever feel like that, that you get your just do? I mean, I also feel like I still have so much to do. So it's a little weird. I go back and forth between wanting people to, I guess, see me and see the work that I've done,
Starting point is 00:23:48 but also I have an understanding of how there's been so many other people that have worked even longer than me and still haven't gotten there. So it's a little bit back and forth for me. And I just am, I guess, in the head space of when it's time, it's time, when it's your time for people to see know, and I just am, I guess in the head space of when it's time, it's time, when it's your time for people to see you,
Starting point is 00:24:09 they will, so I'm hoping with this film in particular, because it speaks to that a lot, I think with Clarissa herself, and not getting her respect and just do, and not getting her flowers when she should have, back in 2012, so I think that it's a reflection of that and I'm hoping that a lot of people and our people do go out to the theaters to see
Starting point is 00:24:31 because I think that it just would mean so, so much. And I don't know if people truly understand how important even that is in showing up because it just, it really, really does so, so much, and for the people in the industry to see like, oh, people really do wanna see stories like this. It just speaks volumes. These stories don't get made
Starting point is 00:24:52 if we don't spend the money at the box office. They don't. They really don't. So I'm hoping people understand the gravity of that. So it's a little bit of always a balance between knowing that I have a lot more to go and a lot more to show. You said something earlier that made me think,
Starting point is 00:25:08 you said, I can't remember how you worded it, but you're not at peace with where you are? I think it's just always a battle a little bit with knowing that I want to do more. So knowing that I haven't hit the spaces that I want to yet, it's just kind of always feeling like, okay, I gotta work harder and I gotta do more and after this project, I gotta do this one
Starting point is 00:25:35 and this one to just show people. So I think that's what I mean and not exactly at peace, but learning to be and learning to, I guess, go with the flows of everything and not to put too much pressure on myself is something that I wanna get to. Now do you feel that way because you're looking at everybody else or is that just something like inner for you?
Starting point is 00:25:59 Because a lot of times people, you can look at, you can measure your success where you are based on what you see others doing around you. Yeah. It's probably a combination. I think naturally you do compare yourself a little bit, but it's also when you see the potential that you have and you believe in yourself and know where you could go,
Starting point is 00:26:22 it's something that I think I pay attention to a lot. I know what I'm capable of, and even with this project in particular, there's a lot of people that didn't see it for me, and probably wouldn't have even casted me if it were in different hands. So I think it's just stuff like that where I know what I can do and I know what I'm capable of.
Starting point is 00:26:42 So I do want to continue to push myself to those points, but also not get too caught up in looking at who's next to me and where they're at. So I think it's always a combo. Cause they probably looking at you like, damn, I ain't got a movie coming out Christmas Day. I know, I know. I went to go see Wicked, I went to go see this film
Starting point is 00:27:02 and I keep seeing the trailer, damn, I need that look right there. I know the rarity oficked, I went to go see this film and I keep seeing the trailer. Damn, I need that look right there. I know the rarity of it and I'm super thankful for this time, because even after the pandemic, I didn't think it would be as possible for me anymore to get a movie out in the theaters, because streaming hit an all time high during that time and I'm like, oh man, that's every actor's dream
Starting point is 00:27:24 is to have a movie at the theater. So things like that, I definitely, I just put into perspective because I know how much of a blessing it is and I'm just really grateful and thankful to be able to even say that. Shalama, you asked about Star. That's what you asked me before.
Starting point is 00:27:39 Hopefully we get a Star movie. A Star movie. So is that in the works? Y'all are gonna be like, I have answers I really don't know. Okay. You know, Lee Daniels is always bringing it up, bringing it up to us and different things
Starting point is 00:27:52 that he has going on, but he has so many things going on all the time. And I don't know. I really, I wish I had a better answer for everybody, but I don't. Cause we not okay with just it ending like that. Like, it got to be a movie. It did end very abruptly.
Starting point is 00:28:07 I agree. It was very weird. Yeah. So I get it. My last question. So who plays Papoose in the movie? Oh. You are stupid.
Starting point is 00:28:17 OK. Never mind. I don't even know. Honestly, I don't even know what's going on. I just woke up. Don't worry. I just woke up. You better woke up. Don't worry. You better get out of New York faster.
Starting point is 00:28:26 Remember? You got about 24 hours. If I can't get to Clarissa, I'm gonna get this up. All we did was wake up, too. And it was right there. It was like, damn. And you know what? I'm hoping that a lot of people, because a lot
Starting point is 00:28:38 of these blogs and everything have really picked this up. But I really hope they pick up the fact that she has an entire movie about her life. Oh, yeah. This is going to feel that. She's doing the right, I see Clarissa doing the right thing now because all she's doing is promoting the movie. Okay, period, as she should.
Starting point is 00:28:52 And I even hit her this morning and I told her, I said don't get distracted. You got a movie coming out on Christmas Day. And a lot of times when you go into that next level, you'll start seeing all of these distractions and the devil start really playing with you in those moments. Absolutely, yeah. I'm glad you texted me that.
Starting point is 00:29:07 That was good. Are you concerned with any of the current drama like overshadowing the movie? No, not at all. Especially because I know things go over fairly quickly with the internet. It's always onto the next thing. But I know Christmas Day, it'll be a really big time.
Starting point is 00:29:23 And I know the more and more people go see it, the more they'll talk about that, I think, and how inspiring it is in itself. So that's the stuff. I can't wait to see it. Yeah, me too. My last question, is there more pressure playing a role of an actual person versus playing a character?
Starting point is 00:29:39 Absolutely, especially when they're still alive. You know? It's just like so, so much. Because then people also have things to compare it to. And they're like, if you don't get it, they're like, well she didn't do this and she didn't do that. So yeah, there's a lot more pressure. But more than anything, I wanted her seal of approval.
Starting point is 00:30:00 And that came with a lot of pressure as well. You know, when it's other people that aren't on the earth anymore, they can't really come back and be like, you did wrong. You did it. You did it horribly. Right. That is so funny. Yeah, it's so that's scary. So I was definitely I was scared at first for sure for her to see it,
Starting point is 00:30:19 because I thought about her every single day on set. And so, yeah, like I said, when I saw the video, there's a video of her reaction to it, and she was so happy with the boxing and so happy with the story. And she literally cries every time she sees it now. And I just, I couldn't ask for more. That's all I wanted.
Starting point is 00:30:39 So you're saying the next person biopic that you play gotta be dead. Yeah, you hope to be dead. You gotta be dead. You gotta be dead. I mean, they don't have to be. I don't wish that. I don't want that. Person biopic that you play gotta be dead Mess up a line like The fire inside it's coming out Christmas Day. Yes, you go see see it. It's I mean the previews look amazing.
Starting point is 00:31:06 Like I said, I seen Gladiator 2 and I seen Wicked and it was the preview for it. It was just dope. My kids were super duper excited. I'm going to see it the day after Christmas. Christmas. OK. My whole family come over.
Starting point is 00:31:15 So we ain't going nowhere. I'm going on Christmas Day because I'm going out to the country. And I'm a huge Chris and Shields fan. Me too. I got to watch the documentary on Netflix. Like I'm really into what she does. So that's great.
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