The Breakfast Club - INTERVIEW: Ryan Garcia On Upcoming Fight With Haney, Bernard Hopkins 'Beef,' Tank Rematch, Canelo Alvarez +More

Episode Date: February 27, 2024

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Starting point is 00:02:44 The Breakfast Club. Morning, everybody. wake that ass up early in the morning the breakfast club morning everybody it's dj envy jess hilarious sholomain the guy we are the breakfast club we got ak right with us again of course he's our boxing analyst and expert and we got a special guest in the building ryan garcia what's up how are you sir how's it going how you doing i'm blessed for having me like this is special for me thanks for joining us i watch your guys's stuff and it's just cool you're not cavern i see ryan this was some years ago at the god was it the garden i think it was the garden and you told me that yeah yeah yeah because that was a long time ago i think that might have been canelo's
Starting point is 00:03:18 first fight on the zone i might have been yeah yeah maybe yep but how are you man how you feeling i'm good i'm all right you're about to fight uh devin haney devin haney you ready for that smoke i request is he ready for the smoke because at the end of the day you know he can't do shit to me you don't you know he can't crack an egg so it's really going to be a hard night for him 12 rounds of just being in there with me he's going to be you know i'm scared for him you know i've just been praying he's going to be okay that's it i know what i'm's it. I know what I'm about to do. I know what I'm about to do. Don't worry about me.
Starting point is 00:03:47 I got this. You got it? I got this. Y'all fought, like, six times already, right? Yeah, three and three. Three and three? It was the amateurs, though. Okay, okay.
Starting point is 00:03:53 So he beat you three times. You beat him two times. Were they, like, close fights? Was it knockouts? TKO? He never beat me, like, convincingly, you know. Every time I beat him, I had him rock like this, you know, telling him, oh, my eardrum is broke. Like, I did him dirty every time I beat him I had him rock like this you know time oh my eardrum is broke like I did him dirty every time I won every time he won his points like barely you know they're only three rounds so if you know the fight
Starting point is 00:04:12 doesn't really play out the fuck Ryan you gotta know he was sitting down with Ryan Ryan you can hit him you can hit him one good time you can hit him one good time
Starting point is 00:04:32 wow that's the wrong one to be playing with you you gotta stop I just wanted one just go get it
Starting point is 00:04:41 get it again go get it nah that ain't right what you say I no I was saying I can't even drink my water now you're good are you sure take a sip look at you you didn't have to take a sip
Starting point is 00:04:58 no no look right you're so much different than you were from I remember when you signed a golden boy right the type of fighter you were you were from, I remember when you signed a golden boy, right? The type of fighter you were. You were not naive in a sense, but you was just happy, right? You walk in like such more of a businessman now, right? What would you tell 19, 20-year-old Ryan now?
Starting point is 00:05:17 Do you have any regrets in the decisions that you've made? I have no regrets. I think I did everything correct. Everything evolves. First, you come in, you're happy, you're ready to get your career started, and then you understand, oh shit, this is a business. Let me lock in, because these dudes are trying to play me.
Starting point is 00:05:36 And then after a while, you become your own boss, and that's what happened with me. Simple. Were you shocked that Haney accepted the fight? No, not really like i don't know when there's a big bag i mean i'm not shocked about anything you know you get paid you know 10 million dollars plus i mean it's gonna be hard to say no if you already fought so many times why do people think that it's still a chance that you'll drop out of the fight because they like
Starting point is 00:06:02 they like to run with any narrative about me like oh he's weak he's soft i mean i heard it all so anytime they have a chance to like make it seem like i'm like that they get they get to it why do they think that why do they always say that that you saw often why do they always push that narrative when it comes to you that's literally definitely he has the same problem he does not have the same problem i know you're right. Who you talking about? He is not putting nowhere. Don't put that in his mind. I'm handsome. I'm handsome. You're not handsome.
Starting point is 00:06:28 I'm handsome. Wow. At the back there, he's, I'm handsome. No, no, no. All right. All right. No, but. How did that fight come about?
Starting point is 00:06:38 Your lawyer, Lupe, said that it was just him, Bill, and Devin. Oh, dang. Oh, dang. Come on, bro. I'm just kidding. No, I'm saying like how the fight, man. Oh, man. Come on, bro. I'm just kidding. You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? Like, how the fight came about.
Starting point is 00:06:48 Like, how was it made? Was it really just Lupe, Bill, and Devin, and he called you to say, hey, the fight is made? No, no, no. I made a poll on Instagram. No, no. To the mic. To the mic. I'm sorry.
Starting point is 00:06:58 I had a poll on Twitter that said, who do you want me to fight, Haney or Rollies? It was like 54 or 47 or something like that, like the percentages. So I said, okay, you want me to fight, Haney or Rollies? It was like 54 or 47 or something like that, like the percentages. So I said, okay, I'm going to fight Haney. And then I told my team, go make that fight happen.
Starting point is 00:07:12 And then obviously a lot of other shit happened after that. But that's basically what happened. The rumors were that Floyd gave you advice and said, you know what,
Starting point is 00:07:18 the Devin fight isn't a big business fight. The Rollies fight is a better business fight. That was the narrative on the internet. Is there any truth to that? No, it's not a narrative. That's the truth the truth you know we went on a run and we started
Starting point is 00:07:28 hanging out and then he was like this ain't it that's not the move and i was like i don't listen to nobody but i mean obviously i'm gonna listen to floyd so i was like he's influential to me because i looked up to him so i was like all right dude i'm gonna just trust you like i'll just fight that dude rollies and knock him out like that's not hard and then i'll fight devin someday somehow later but i felt bad because i already gave the people my word and then i'm like damn bro i gave the people my word he said some things changed i'm like all right whatever anyways that wasn't the right move because i feel like once you say something and you give the people your word you should stick to it it. And I didn't do that. So I learned a lesson. I'm never going to do that.
Starting point is 00:08:07 I'm not going to listen to Floyd. Nobody. If I gave my word to the people, I'm just going to do it and see what happens later. Y'all know better than me, but why would Floyd think a Roley fight is a more lucrative fight? I would think Devin easily. He's saying because Devin only sold X amount of pay-per-view buys
Starting point is 00:08:22 and he makes people lose money in their fights you know in his fights so he's like that's not the right move but Roley hasn't sold any pay-per-views yeah you're the draw yeah I mean I'm gonna bring the draw anyways you know I just think me and Devin have a lot of history to me it makes sense I'm ready to beat his ass like
Starting point is 00:08:39 I don't like any of them you know him or his daddy especially his daddy but um you really don't like them like personally why does it get so or his daddy, especially his daddy. You really don't like them personally? Why does it get so personal with you? Because they're the fakest people in the world. They'll smile like, Ryan, you know, we're so happy. But meanwhile, they're ready to stab you in the back. I don't like people like that.
Starting point is 00:08:55 I see right through it. That's fake. You're phony. Like, that's why I came right at him. Like, no, because they try to lower my guard down by being really nice. I was on the phone with Haney, and he was being laughing, telling me I telling me i need this and then i told my security i said something don't feel right i said i'm gonna work on it don't worry i hang up i'm like oh i know what he's trying to do he's trying to soften me up you know he's trying to play me i sent him a text and i have it right
Starting point is 00:09:16 here fuck you get off my phone bitch started off just like that oh God. If you make this man stand up one more time. Lord. No, you don't got to. I don't believe you. I don't believe you. He's such an instigator. You know, this is Devin Uncle. That's not true.
Starting point is 00:09:40 That's not true. I do want to see it though but when you take a fight personal like that doesn't that kind of leave you open to getting hurt because you might go in with too much emotion no I know how to handle that okay let me see you got to get through all them ladies
Starting point is 00:10:00 uh huh pretty self I just let me see I want to find the first one so you got a more screenshot of course oh you got a red that motivation for you oh there you go I go it was a great chat bill I basically was telling him like he's I'm talking to Bill. I ain't talking to him. I said, tell Devon, I said, what's up? I just want you to know straight up, I'm coming for your neck. I'm leaving no crimes.
Starting point is 00:10:31 Remember that. Don't lose sight of that. No mercy. Remember that. Remember the DM. Then I hit him with, oh, yeah, right here. We aren't friends. You aren't shit.
Starting point is 00:10:39 Remember that. I'm ready to make this fight. Don't kill it acting like the ace. I try to be cool, but you keep playing around. I'm fucking going on phone calls, but the truth is I don't need you at all. I'm pissed because it was a waste of time. You are over-evaluating yourself and wasting my time. Oh, yeah, that ain't what you said earlier.
Starting point is 00:10:54 You said, fuck that pussy ass bitch ass. Fuck that pussy ass bitch ass. I'm not saying that. Fuck you, bitch ass bitch ass. Damn. Damn. No, but yeah. How did you handle recovering from the loss from from gervonta davis
Starting point is 00:11:09 like mentally i just say what's next like that was whatever for me you know i wasn't at my best uh and there's no excuse it's just the truth when somebody handicaps you that much why would you be mad okay you basically handicapped me i lost i I lost. I still went in there, fought my ass off. I knew I was going to lose because I was weak in the back room for the first time. I'm like, I got no power. This is crazy. But I put it up with God and I had a spiritual victory, not a physical victory. You know, I felt like I did something for, you know, God.
Starting point is 00:11:40 And I walked out to a worship song, time ever in front of you know all those people so I felt like you know I did what I had to do if he ever comes sees me at 140 you know how I'm gonna do it you know I'm gonna beat him he can't beat me when I'm at my full strength guaranteed so that's why you said you felt powerless because of the oh yeah all the you know nobody would take those clauses no but I don't care who you are so does that fight play out differently at 140 with you and Tank? Oh, 100%. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:12:07 Yeah, I mean, now I got strength and my brain is there. Like when you're super dehydrated, you can't even think. Just like, fuck, what's going on? And I still almost got his ass. The round he dropped me is the round I had his ass. So you would entertain that fight if he came up to 140? 100%. You know, he has to come see me because
Starting point is 00:12:26 he's not going to make money without me it's like it's going to happen you think the boxing game is changing as far as records are concerned because at one time nobody ever wanted to lose because of floyd of course right but now it seems like it's starting to change back where boxes are taking chances they're not afraid to lose and it's it's more of a sport and fun now yeah i think it's um it's slowly changing. I think it started off with my fight with Tank. I ripped it off like a band-aid. I was getting bored in the sport.
Starting point is 00:12:52 This shit is boring. I'm winning and it's all good, but it's just boring. There's no energy here. It's dead. But then I was like, all right, fuck it. I'm going to just fight Tank. Envy is learning boxing. That was a good question.
Starting point is 00:13:04 Basically, it was dead dead and then i lit it right up and then everybody started fighting you seen crawford fight arrow um then everybody's just making moves next gotta be canal he has to fight benavidez that'll keep the boxing going but we were just talking about that this weekend does he have to though i think he does how really i mean he hasn't hasn't he accomplished enough where he doesn't have anything else to prove? But what is that? Who wants to live in the past? This is now.
Starting point is 00:13:32 This is the biggest fight to make. People expect you. You're Canelo, the face of boxing. Why aren't you doing it? Who wins that fight if it happens? Canelo. So you see him beating Benavidez? Unless he waits too long, you know,
Starting point is 00:13:45 and then he gets past his line. So, I mean, it's not going to be easy. I'm not going to say that. And, you know, Canelo will get touched up, but... I think he can outbox Benavidez. I think his experience will get to Benavidez. Do you think you will ever work things out with Canelo?
Starting point is 00:14:02 Are y'all at better terms now? I try to message him all the time. Like, let's golf. Let's do something. Like, we're good. He doesn't respond? Yeah, little things here and there. Nothing crazy.
Starting point is 00:14:12 What caused that riff? Because, you know, y'all was like big brother, little brother at one point. I don't even know, to be honest. It was just, I don't know. He just, he would say stuff about me for no reason. And I was like, bro, you're like,
Starting point is 00:14:26 that's crazy. Just call me up and tell me like, oh, I need you to be doing this. I went through a real mental health crisis. I mean, I don't care what nobody says. That was real.
Starting point is 00:14:35 So, you know, they could say I faked it all they want. You weren't in my shoes. You know, you didn't, you didn't feel the things I felt. And,
Starting point is 00:14:42 you know, I just, I took it on the chin though but he made me look like a clown. What did he criticize? He said that I'm wasting time my talent and it was during my mental health crisis I'm like bro the fuck? Whatever
Starting point is 00:14:56 but he made me look like the weakest dude on the internet You felt like he should have called you that's big bro he should have called No he made everybody look at me like an undisciplined kid and I'm like bro I'm the hardest worker in the fucking gym what are we talking You felt like he should have called you. That's big bro. He should have called. Check, bro. He made everybody look at me like an undisciplined kid. And I'm like, bro, the hardest work in the fucking gym. What are we talking about? And he pig tanked to beat you.
Starting point is 00:15:09 You think that offended you? No, I don't care about that, dude. I mean, it is what it is. I think that what you did when you took a mental health break was one of the strongest things a person could do. Yeah. You know, especially a person in a field like boxing because y'all just supposed to be tough and thug it out. But for you to be like, nah, I got to focus on what's important, which is my mental and emotional well-being. I had no choice.
Starting point is 00:15:30 It was like so intense that I'm like, usually I could get past things because I'm mentally strong. But this one, it was like, nope, you're not getting up today. I'm like, damn. So it was depression? It was everything. I thought I was losing my mind. I was like, I can't remember shit. I'm like, I was like, there's no way i got hit that hard wow there ain't no way oh this is after the camp gamble it was after camp it's 2021 no a tank fight i was good next day i was chilling
Starting point is 00:15:55 but um yeah that fight it wasn't it was another thing he did to me it was just it was deep man i mean if i if i was gonna go in like i'll tell you the real story story of it like i had a supernatural spiritual experience i can't even i don't even it don't make no sense was you on something no i don't do drugs nothing it was just prayer a nighttime boom it happened and i was like that was good for a long time but then i started logically trying to think about it like what just happened to me and then that tripped me out, and then I just started going, like, then I just got depressed because I didn't know what happened to me. I always believe in God, though.
Starting point is 00:16:31 I'm very spiritual. I feel energy, like, quick. Sometimes I could just know what you're going to say before you say it. It's crazy. But this time it was just something different. It was like, yo, okay, this is real. This is happening to me. And then it just took me time to, like, process it real it's happening to me um and then it just
Starting point is 00:16:45 took me time to like process it and then come back to god and say what was that did you get a therapist a spiritual leader like no just one day like i was playing poker and i was just like depressed drinking and this dude comes up to me and goes hey can i talk to you i'm like and i was just like yeah bro i guess and at this time i'm already checked out. I don't really care. And then he goes, do you know who you are? I said, yeah, I know who I am. And then he goes, you know, God has something for you. Like, what are you doing? Like, wake up.
Starting point is 00:17:12 And then, boom, I just snapped out of it. And after that, I was like, all right, getting right back to it. Wow. Yeah. Wow. That's amazing. When Canelo was here, he talked about you, the relationship with you and Oscar. He said that he saw issues coming between you.
Starting point is 00:17:25 Remember that, Charlotte? Absolutely. Have things gotten better with you and Golden Boy and Oscar? I don't like non-peaceful situations. So I got Oscar in the thread with my advisor. I said, work it out. People don't like you, Oscar. Why is that?
Starting point is 00:17:44 I don't know. Fix it. Because I'm not going to work with none of you guys if you guys keep doing this. This is bullshit. You're making me look stupid. And then after that, they all started talking, and then me and Oscar talk regularly now. So it's all good now. You think him seeing you hanging around Floyd put pressure on him to act right?
Starting point is 00:18:02 I don't think so. I mean, I don't know how much he cares. Maybe they don't. They probably don't like each other at all, but, you know, that's not my problem. You know, that's your guys' thing. I like Floyd. I like Oscar, and that's what I'm about.
Starting point is 00:18:16 You know, I don't – I'm not trying to pick a side. It is what it is. You know, Floyd's cool as fuck. He's dope. He gives me a lot of advice. I see how he runs his little, you know, his little empire. And I'm like, okay, I peep that. Okay, I'm going to do that.
Starting point is 00:18:29 So I like being around Floyd. After the loss. And Floyd's fly. Yeah, he's fun. Dang it. I used to be fun back in the day, you know. Shut up. So that's a good thing.
Starting point is 00:18:38 Shut up. Shut up. That's a different fun, bro. Different type of fun. I hear you and all that. You was going to say that? I was not going to say that. Yes, you was. I was going to ask you know after the loss
Starting point is 00:18:47 and he didn't come to your locker room what was your mind frame then I mean it was really the people like influencing me like damn that hurt I didn't really care if I'm going deep down in my heart like I don't really care like bro don't show up
Starting point is 00:19:02 I don't care like I'm chilling I don't believe care like i don't show up i don't care like i'm chilling i don't believe that right no i i cared you did you know i mean just as a honestly casual watching after like i processed i'm like that is pretty fucked up like why wouldn't you show up after i just lost a big ass fight but you said that was people in your ear no it was like the internet they made some sad ass edits you like Will Smith sitting in the house by himself remember when Will was crying about his dad I was like oh shit I'm sad
Starting point is 00:19:36 you threw shots at Bernard too have you guys I don't know Bernard's a weirdo bro so you haven't pieced this no Bernard's just weirdo bro straight up so you haven't pieced this no bernard's just weird bro like dude why are you talking about me that was crazy off the rip you just looked at me like boxing will call your bluff i'm like bro you're weird and then i i like i don't like i don't want to flame these guys but i end up doing it and i feel bad because they're older than me and they can't keep up with my and then they just end up looking dumb
Starting point is 00:20:06 I'm like bro alright you feel like they started with you first though yes they been started with me first all the time they take shots I'm their biggest fighter and they're talking shit about me I'm the only one bringing them money but it makes you feel bad after
Starting point is 00:20:18 because you don't want to be that person that's not my character I'm cool like I'm chill like let's work it out but he doesn't seem like he wants to work it out. Me and Oscar are perfectly fine. So, Bernard, hit me up. Let's talk about it.
Starting point is 00:20:31 Boxing will call you a bluff. Makes it feel like he never thought you was an elite fighter. Exactly. He wanted me to retire. Damn. What the fuck? I was like, that's not your decision, first of all. And then, second of all, you know.
Starting point is 00:20:44 You only lost one fight what do you mean retire i don't know what he was talking about and then um and then i came back and i beat dorte and i look great and finally i was strong i felt like i was coming into my prime like now i feel like i'm gonna run through everybody like i feel like i got played once great never again and now i'm ready to come to storm coming come back for blood. Like literally everybody's going to get it. Move out the way. What did they say after your last one? Which one? Oscar and Bernard.
Starting point is 00:21:09 Did they say anything? Oh, I turned up on everybody after I won. I was like, yeah, you thought I was going to fucking lose, right? That's what I fucking thought.
Starting point is 00:21:16 But I just got turned up. I feel the emotions. Do you really feel like that? That Oscar and Bernard thought you would lose to Duarte? Of course, man. They, they think that, you know, dudes that arearte? Of course, man. They think that,
Starting point is 00:21:25 you know, dudes that are strong gonna pit the pressure. He thought that, you know, he did hit hard. I give him that. But there's no way
Starting point is 00:21:31 this guy's gonna beat me. I'm too experienced. I've been doing this since I was seven. Like, you think I haven't met a guy that pits pressure and can hit hard?
Starting point is 00:21:38 You don't think I've ever dealt with that? I'm not gonna lie, I did think that too. Not, just, I was looking at Duarte, I'm like,
Starting point is 00:21:44 the size, you look like a young Canelo almost that's why i told him like first you thought duna was gonna beat me he was the next man he back yo i knocked him out of one round and then i was like now they got this guy every time we're in beef they send somebody in to try to get me and then they never do you thought he was gonna lose that fight i i did for just a split second because i didn't know how how do you thought he was gonna lose that fight i i did for just a split second because i didn't know how how mentally you had recovered from the tank that's smart that's a good assumption but at the end like i already knew i was gonna win i mean who's gonna go into a fight thing they're gonna lose though but i could have lost if i wasn't on point because
Starting point is 00:22:20 he could knock my ass out he would hit hard like i got here i. I'm like, fuck. Hit me in the back of my head. I'm like, oh, shit. And you was doing that weird shoulder roll shit. I'm like, what the fuck? He been around flowing too long. But did I get hit, though? No, but it just looked crazy. Thank God.
Starting point is 00:22:33 Hey, bro, I don't care what it looked like. If I don't get hit, I'm dead. It looked out of character, but you weren't getting hit. But I'm working on it, too. But Derrick wasn't happy with that. No, no, no. What did he say in the corner? He was like like stop doing
Starting point is 00:22:45 that shit why were you doing that because y'all didn't even y'all you didn't train like that i did a couple things like that okay but i just i was tired of him putting pressure so i just stood right there and let him well off and i was just trying to catch shots so i could break his momentum because in the fight i could keep him off as long as i can but sooner or later his pressure so i just met the pressure, and I just said, okay, come on. But that's you. He was damn near turning around, getting hit in the back of the head.
Starting point is 00:23:10 I'm like, what are you doing, Ryan? Yeah, you're right. He said, that's it. No, no, no, but I was just trying to get out of the way. But if you watch Floyd, he does the same shit. No. Floyd's shoulder roll is good. Floyd's was good.
Starting point is 00:23:22 Your shoulder roll was not good. Derek, did he have a good shoulder roll? Come on, be honest now. I don't think any of them was good. Really, even Floyd? I mean, I'm not talking about him. Oh, okay. Everybody who does them, after him.
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Starting point is 00:26:39 Hola, mi gente. It's Honey German, and I'm bringing you Gracias, Come Again, the podcast where we dive deep into the world of Latin culture, musica, peliculas, and entertainment with some of the biggest names in the game. If you love hearing real conversations with your favorite Latin celebrities, artists, and culture shifters, this is the podcast for you. We're talking real conversations with our Latin stars,
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Starting point is 00:27:35 On Thanksgiving Day, 1999, a five-year-old boy floated alone in the ocean. He had lost his mother trying to reach Florida from Cuba. He looked like a little angel. I mean, he looked so fresh. And his name, Elian Gonzalez, will make headlines everywhere. Elian Gonzalez. Elian. Elian. Elian.
Starting point is 00:27:56 Elian. Elian. Elian Gonzalez. At the heart of the story is a young boy and the question of who he belongs with. His father in Cuba. Mr. Gonzales wanted to go home and he wanted to take his son with him. Or his relatives in Miami. Imagine that your mother died trying to get you to freedom.
Starting point is 00:28:16 At the heart of it all is still this painful family separation. Something that as a Cuban, I know all too well. Listen to Chess Peace, the Elian Gonzalez story, as part of the My Cultura podcast network, available on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. You know, as Floyd told me, it wasn't bad. And he's the one that's the best at it.
Starting point is 00:28:41 But if you would have lost the fight, that's what they would have blamed him for. For sure. No, that shoulder roll did get me cut for the first time though because the uppercut slipped in I didn't know because the gloves were smaller than the 14 ounce when you're sparring it's different I was able to see everything this one went right in there
Starting point is 00:28:55 I started bleeding I don't know if you can play with Haney like that Haney's not he don't hit that hard what are you talking about this is actually a more relaxed fight for me I'm just like I'm going to go in there I know I'm fighting a boxer And he's not, he don't hit that hard. What are you talking about? This is actually a more relaxed fight for me. I'm just like, I'm going to go in there. I know I'm fighting a boxer.
Starting point is 00:29:10 It's not a, to him, it's a boxing match. To me, it's a fight. I'm going to go run him over. He can't do nothing. It's like a kid. Like, okay, swing, swing, swing. Boom, my turn. My turn.
Starting point is 00:29:22 He did look good against Progrid. Were you impressed with that performance? Bro, what are you talking about, bro? So tell me, tell me what wasn't good about he's mid bro that's our new talk now is this fight gonna happen in new york or vegas yeah i thought they moved to debacle i don't even want to get into this, but I just pay-per-view. Get into it. No, no. There's a lot going on, a lot of moving pieces. I don't want to say too much about it.
Starting point is 00:29:51 Well, we saw your tweet. I'm trying to bring this fight back to Vegas, right? Okay, I'll speak on that. Yes, I am. That's what I'm going to do. Because, you know, I just... Look, New York is a great place to fight. Obviously, they had great fights.
Starting point is 00:30:03 You know, Muhammad Ali and a lot of Muhammad Ali But that's at the Garden If I'm being real Barclays is not the Garden I like the Barclays But I feel like this fight should be at the current Mecca of Boxing Which is Vegas Back in the day it was New York But times change
Starting point is 00:30:18 Is it because of the tickets What you can get in Vegas As opposed to what you get in New York ticket sales No I'm just looking for the right vibe. I just don't feel like the Barclays is the vibe. I think Vegas, you know, it's going to be fun. Everybody's going to have a great time. Like, it's just going to go crazy.
Starting point is 00:30:34 Yeah, but if it ends up being in New York, we're in New York. Like, New Yorkers are going to be like, what's up with you? Barclays is a great atmosphere for fights. I ain't going to lie. Yeah, I've seen some really good fights. I saw Wilder Ortiz, number one at Barclays. Oh, that was good. I've seen a few fights at Barcl Wilder Ortiz number one at Barclays I've seen a few fights at Barclays Tank Rowley was that
Starting point is 00:30:48 I know I lost and you paid him the next day of course is it better to train for you is it better to train for you in Vegas no I train in Dallas regardless but I just if we're looking at a business aspect taxes I'm not going to pay the New York taxes.
Starting point is 00:31:08 You know, I know people, they say that a lot. You ain't lying. It makes sense. I'm with you, brother. Okay, so. Now, if you say that, it makes sense. If you tell me I don't want to pay the taxes, I totally get it. That's why the fight shouldn't be in New York.
Starting point is 00:31:18 That is the reason. No, but like, shout out New York, though. Maybe I'll bring another fight there, but I want to fight somebody that has like a connection to New York. We're both West Coast fighters. Now, I don't understand stuff like this. So like maybe the boxing expert can tell me, why can't he fight where he wants to fight? I mean, why is it looked at as a stall tactic?
Starting point is 00:31:37 Like why is it? I mean, he can speak to that too, but it's a lot of variables. Like if the venue is available in Vegas on the date that they want, if there's other fights that are close to that date, it's not a good look to have, like, two big
Starting point is 00:31:50 back-to-back fights. I know Canelo's gonna be fighting in Vegas like a few weeks after that, right? And maybe that's an influence?
Starting point is 00:31:59 I mean, I didn't see him. Well, he has an announcer fight, but he's fought in May every year for how many years this might be my time though
Starting point is 00:32:08 to take over Vegas to take over that Cinco de Mayo weekend it might be my time we'll see, let God's will be done, not mine but I feel like it's my time if he's not fighting Benavidez it's not going to be a bigger fight than mine I'll be on the record to say that.
Starting point is 00:32:25 1.3? They haven't done a million pay-per-views in so long since Floyd era. This fight's going to be another million pay-per-view buys. I just feel like I'm the next one. That's it. I'm looking at the numbers. I'm looking at how
Starting point is 00:32:41 I can promote. I'm looking at everything. The numbers. I got it. Give I can promote. I'm looking at everything. The numbers, I got it. Give me that spot. I got it. Trust me. So you think you're a bigger fight or a bigger start in Canelo right now if he doesn't fight Benavidez? Yes. Yes.
Starting point is 00:32:55 I'll be on record to say that. I feel, though. But look, everybody's going to judge and make their opinion. But I'm looking at it. I'm looking at how much upside I have to, you know, he's on the end tail of his, I'm on the beginning really.
Starting point is 00:33:10 And I'm only going to get bigger. You know, it's not going to stop. So who's the next one? It has to be me. You know, I should take that May 4th date, you know,
Starting point is 00:33:20 Vegas knows, you know, I got all the high rollers will come in everything. Like I got, I got it all figured out. What did the Duarte fight do? I don't even know. They said that it was all right, you know, but you need a dance partner.
Starting point is 00:33:32 That's why I didn't put it on pay-per-view. Yeah, well, okay. I got the zone, so I didn't know. Well, you got to be smart. Like, people have a lot of ego. Oh, my fight's got to be on pay-per-view. No, they don't. Like, the ones that don't need, like, don't bullshit the people.
Starting point is 00:33:43 This fight ain't a fucking pay-per-view fight. Stop capping. Nobody knows Duarte. Why the hell would I do that? That fight was more for me. Like I wanted a good fight, and I did that. So, you know, I did what I had to do. How do you think another loss could affect your legacy?
Starting point is 00:33:59 I don't think it will affect me. You know, Manny Peck had eight losses. He'd been knocked out cold. I haven't. That hasn't happened to me. I mean, it's just if you let it bother you, it's going to affect you. It don't bother me. If I go out there and I do my shit and I look good, oh, you lost?
Starting point is 00:34:15 Did I lose, though? But you got to win, though, because you said that. I want to win. I'm the most competitive one in the room. I play video games like my life depends on it on it like fuck this locked in like everything i do i'm gonna i'm gonna go and win but you're saying would it affect me no because when you even when you say you're the biggest star in boxing right now i i can't disagree with that but i still got to put canelo number one but if you would have beaten tank i'd be like yeah he yeah. Biggest star, I'll have to say.
Starting point is 00:34:45 I think the same thing's on the line here with Devin Haney. If I win the fight, well, when I win the fight, when I win the fight, I'm the top. I'm the top. I don't see anybody that could be bigger than me. Jake Paul? Oh, yeah. I mean, but that's a whole different category. I told Jake Paul, let's run it.
Starting point is 00:35:03 Let's fight. He don't want to fight a real fighter. He not going to. Let's fight. He don't want to fight a real fighter. He not going to fight you. No, he don't want to fight a real fighter. I just messaged him. I was like, bro, we could really do this. He don't want to fight a real fighter. You know, that'd be stupid.
Starting point is 00:35:11 But he's bigger. He's way bigger. I'll come to his weight. I'll gain up to 180. I could do it. And let's just run it. You'd go to 180? I can.
Starting point is 00:35:20 I haven't been there. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He ain't going to look cut up at all. It don't matter. I'm not even trying to look pretty. I'm trying to hurt somebody. You know, going to look cut up at all. It don't matter. I'm not trying to look pretty. I'm trying to hurt somebody. You know, at one point, you said you wanted to retire at 26. You wanted to accomplish whatever you could in boxing and be out.
Starting point is 00:35:32 So that ship sailed. Like, that's no longer you. Yeah, because I overestimated how fast I could get everything done. Have I done a lot at 25? Yes. So what's the age now? When are you out? I think like 30.
Starting point is 00:35:42 30, you out? 30, I'm out. Because I'm here to fight everybody and run it and win and then dip. You know, I feel like Tank Davis rematch would be my final fight. Like after I run through like these people, you know, you got Devin, you got Tefimo. Shakur. I mean, I might give him an opportunity. I think y'all scared of Shakur.
Starting point is 00:36:01 Nobody's scared of Shakur, bro. I think y'all be ducking Shakur. Shakur's scared of his shadow, bro. I think y'all be ducking Shakur. Shakur's scared of his shadow, bro. I think y'all be ducking Shakur. Shakur, you see his last fight? Shakur be still. He did say his hand was injured, though. Sat down with him.
Starting point is 00:36:12 I don't know. Do you think that could affect your performance? If my hand was injured, I couldn't even use the whole training camp with Fonseca, and I knocked that dude out in one round. Don't get me in my hand hurts. Everybody's hand hurts. Shakur, that's one the fans want to see, though they don't yes i want to see ryan i've not heard that at all yeah i've never you wouldn't want to see that i know nobody on the street has ever been like yo shakur you would be
Starting point is 00:36:39 crazy we talk about that all the time you do do. No, we do it boxing. You do. You do it in your cell. We do. We do. We do. We do. We do. We do. We do.
Starting point is 00:36:46 We do. We do. We do. We do. We do. We do. We do. We do.
Starting point is 00:36:48 We do. We do. We do. We do. We do. We do. We do. Don't you think Shakur is a really good boxer?
Starting point is 00:36:51 He's a good boxer, but it's nothing that stands out to me. It's just, okay, you know how to move, but it's nothing like Tank or me. Like somebody got to stand out for you. You're not just fighting anybody. I see boxers all the time. I've been watching boxers boxes my whole life i know the ones that are different he's not different why is devon different devon is doing everything he can to be non you know not normal you know he wants to stand out he's picking up steam i think that you know he's better than shakur yeah i think he's more entertaining than shakur i won't say he's better but i think that his fights are more entertaining people you know rather watch a devon
Starting point is 00:37:29 haney fight than a shakur now shakur will do everything you know not even to get like an ounce of hitting like he's scared to really lock in and get in there um devon's not devon will go and bang a little bit when he has to so i think our fight is going to be way huger than a sugar fight that's what you're banking on you're banking on the fight yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah because i like to knock out i mean i mean people are saying that you can't outbox devin that you would have to knock him out boxing before though right right no i'm saying that's what people say that but i he knows what he knows i'm not an easy dude like when he's in front of me it's different he's been he's felt the energy it's not going to be this fight's not going to be pretty for him, though, because I'm on a whole different vibe and level.
Starting point is 00:38:09 So you got a different strategy? Yeah, my focus is crazy right now. Like I said, just make sure, like, pray that he's okay. I mean that, sir. I'm not even trying to joke no more. Like, just pray, like, he's going to be okay. Like, Devin, like, go home, enjoy the money, boom, boom, boom, because this is going to get ugly for him. What message would you leave for Devin? go home enjoy the money because this is going to get ugly what message would
Starting point is 00:38:25 you leave for Devin shit bro fuck you bitches nah bro I got a lot of dark thoughts that came in my brain
Starting point is 00:38:34 I'm just going to leave it at this bro you really don't like them personally you say him and his daddy like especially his daddy so what would be
Starting point is 00:38:42 the message for Devin I don't even know like I don't have a message I'm just ready to do something oh I'm gonna take that really you really want to fight Sean O'H fight Sean O'Malley? Sean O'Malley, yes. Sean O'Malley, I'm sorry. I'll fight him in MMA. Yes, 100%. I'm a natural wrestler.
Starting point is 00:39:10 People don't know I'm strong. You used to wrestle in school? No, I'm just natural. You never wrestled before? No, I never wrestled, but I wrestled big dudes that know how to wrestle. It's form. It's just instinct, body language, knowing where his body's going, letting him go and then throwing him over.
Starting point is 00:39:28 It's just you got to know what you know. I just got a good sense. If I was in the MMA, I would beat him. Did Dana White hit you back on that? I've been bugging everybody. What the? Your DM's probably great. Why are you DMing all these people?
Starting point is 00:39:44 You have people for that i don't care yo ron i gotta ask you you saw a tank just recently leaked out a dm between him and eddie hearn right like he's done that several times i don't know you saw that well what do you think about that would you ever leak out personal uh conversation i don't know. I mean, I won't say I would never do it, but I've never done it. I don't like it. I mean, Tank is confusing me. I don't know. He's just, I don't know what he's up to.
Starting point is 00:40:15 What do you mean? What do you want? Oh, for the rematch? No, not for the rematch. I mean, what is, oh, he's fighting Frank Martin. Never mind. I know what he's doing. You think he's not, you think he's ducking big fights?
Starting point is 00:40:24 I think so he's doing. You think he's ducking big fights? I think so. Especially Tank. Like, they're all about the business and, you know, I know what they're trying to do. That hurts boxing, though, you know? Who should he be fighting? There's a lot of people out there. I would want him to fight Shakur. Why not fight Shakur? I mean, that's a good one.
Starting point is 00:40:43 I think it's about time that Tank fights a big He's way older than all of us. He's supposed to be like the senior. How old is Tank? Like 28, 29. The talk was always like, y'all broke. I'm the A side. I'm calling shots. That's all good, but at some point
Starting point is 00:41:00 it's almost 30. You got to fight the big fight. I'm not saying Tank is scared to fight these guys, but there's too much business getting involved in the big fights being made i often wonder if there's more people dealing with mental and emotional uh health issues than they want to admit like when you see fighters like take a step back like you were open about it i wonder what what might be going on in in tank's life you know you know trauma hurt you know things that you know are packed inside the way he acts he got a lot of trauma that's just he got a lot of anger something where he grew up you know made him you know hit that switch but
Starting point is 00:41:36 they need to happen i mean he's a phenomenal fighter obviously but we want to see those fights what about you ryan when you was younger what was it that got you into fighting was it people with people picking on you was you getting like bully what was it you got to prove yourself because you wasn't the pretty guy like no i was um playing baseball like at like five six and i remember this vividly i was you know out there diving for the balls and we're not you know trying my best and then you know we lost we got fourth place but i felt my team just didn't put that effort in the way I was doing it. I was like, bro, I can't do this.
Starting point is 00:42:07 So I asked my uncle, I was like, is there any sports at our one-on-one? Just show me whatever. He showed me boxing. I said, I'm going to do that. And then I started going to the garage, and I was really good. I was like, all right, let's go. But through that, like, I had so much confirmations that I'm going to be a fighter. Like, I had dreams of me fighting in heaven like as
Starting point is 00:42:25 a little boy and then like fighting in heaven yeah yeah i had like a lot of vivid dreams like that who was you fighting in heaven jesus no no i was protecting heaven yeah yeah i wasn't fighting fighting in heaven okay protect the heaven that's dope yeah so and then I just had a sense always around me like okay
Starting point is 00:42:49 like there's guidance and it just pushed me towards boxing and you know like and then I was just being really good
Starting point is 00:42:56 and it's all that I wanted to do you know that one story says a lot about you you don't fuck with teams the fact that you DM everybody on YouTube you know what I mean
Starting point is 00:43:04 the fact that you went rogue with the shoulder roll you don't like being a part of a team no i do but sometimes i hit the veto button like we're going this way you know like let's just move this way i feel like this is the better move so you don't mess with his own team no i love my team but if you feel like you can make it happen then you will do that you know you'll try to sometimes you know the only way to do it is do yourself do it yourself you stretch your team out i can see it it's been a journey how important is the bag versus the legacy of of winning i think they go hand in hand okay you know if it's legacy you better make me a bag you know if it's a bag it should have an ounce of legacy there so i think they go hand in hand like you know it if it's a bag, it should have an ounce of legacy there. So I think they go hand in hand, like,
Starting point is 00:43:46 you know, I don't think it's legacy. If I ain't getting paid, what kind of legacy? Legacy doesn't help you after boxing. Right. When it's done. I just want to make sure that I get paid well. And,
Starting point is 00:43:55 and I fight, you know, I feel like boxers should get paid well. They put their life on the line. I feel like they're the most respected athletes. I don't care. You said you want to end with Tank. If you could pick your next three opponents in your order, who would they be?
Starting point is 00:44:08 You know, obviously Devin and then Teofimo. And then I want to go Sean O'Malley. And then I want to go Tank. Nah, I'll put Shakur with Sean O'Malley. You run through them. You run through Devin and Teofimo and Shakur. And then rematch with Tank. Rematch with Tank.
Starting point is 00:44:23 That would be big. That would be one of the biggest runs ever what so move Sean for Shakur yes that might be a move you've been promoting
Starting point is 00:44:31 a lot lately I'm just saying that's the you talking about legacy how long have you been a part of Shakur's fan club what membership he got he getting two tickets bro
Starting point is 00:44:40 I'm just saying that's the legacy you do that you like oh okay it's different yeah I might do that you're like oh okay It's different I might do that Ryan Garcia good luck We appreciate you for joining us
Starting point is 00:44:51 Thank you so much Good having you Appreciate you my brother Thank you for coming man It's Ryan Garcia Don't be a stranger It's The Breakfast Club Good morning
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Starting point is 00:46:14 As a kid, I really do remember having these dreams and visions, but you just don't know what is going to come for you. Alicia shares her wisdom on growth, gratitude, and the power of love. I forgive myself. It's okay. Have grace with yourself. You're trying your best. And you're going to figure out the rhythm of this thing. Alicia Keys, like you've never heard her before.
Starting point is 00:46:37 Listen to On Purpose with Jay Shetty on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, everyone. I'm Madison Packer, a pro hockey veteran going on my 10th season in New York. And I'm Anya Packer, a former pro hockey player and now a full Madison Packer stan. Anya and I met through hockey, and now we're married and moms to two awesome toddlers, ages two and four. And we're excited about our new podcast, Moms Who Puck, which talks about everything from pro hockey to professional women's athletes to raising children and all the messiness in between. So listen to Moms Who Puck on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, everyone.
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