The Breakfast Club - INTERVIEW: Ryan Johnson & Ochocinco Talk E-Sports, Shannon Sharpe, Russel Wilson, The NFL's Bottom Line + More
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wake that ass up in the morning the breakfast club i'm good morning everybody it's dj nv
jess hilarious charlamagne the guy Guy. We are The Breakfast Club.
We got some special guests with us.
Yes, indeed.
We got the brother Ryan Johnson and Chad Ocho Cinco.
Welcome, brother.
What's up with y'all?
I'm glad to be here.
I'm glad to be here.
I'm glad to be here.
Ocho, you're like a cultural icon in a way, man.
You think so?
Yeah, from sports to hip-hop.
Absolutely.
And it's been like this for a while.
Yeah, and I never really viewed myself like that.
I kind of just enjoy having fun. regardless of what atmosphere I'm put in.
I adapted my surroundings and just act accordingly.
Yeah.
That's about it.
I don't,
I don't see it like that though.
I need you and Shannon.
Y'all can't be looking at just like that though.
I don't like it.
It wasn't him.
It was both of them.
It was Shannon.
It wasn't him.
Yeah.
Yeah.
That's my dog.
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Okay, okay, okay.
Because I don't think Shannon understood or knew about my homie, you know?
Got you.
And so I kind of ain't really indulging it, but, you know, we good.
He didn't mean no disrespect.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
It just felt like, all right, all right, all right, cuz.
Stop looking at my sister like that.
I'm not.
That's why he said, I was like, I understand where you're coming from.
And I just left it at that.
There you go.
And when you left it alone, it was left alone.
See?
So yeah, there you go.
You didn't need it.
So how's it dealing with Shannon Shaw, with all the beef that he's getting in right now?
It seems like he's arguing with everybody.
It's coming from everywhere.
And I told Unc, I say, Unc, this is what we got to do.
We can't set a precedent every time somebody say something.
Y'all get to get and apologize.
We're going to have to make an example out of somebody.
Is that what Jeff told me yesterday?
Yeah.
See, I'm telling you.
Just one person.
We got to make an example out of somebody.
Because what's going to happen is people are going to see, well, damn, if he can come at him and just say I'm sorry, then they squash everything.
I say, no, that's not going to happen. Because now you see it's starting to be a trickle effect. gonna see well damn if he can come at him and just say i'm sorry then they squash everything i say no
that's not gonna happen because now they still now you see it's starting to be a trickle effect
now everybody got these little jokes so i'm off papers now i'm on probation right right right you
know i'd be in the streets i'm like that so my girl got insurance on me as if anything happened
to me i told i got you i'm to be your enforcer. You know,
Griselda had an enforcer.
Escobar had an enforcer.
For Unc,
I'm the enforcer.
And I'm,
it's whatever.
It's up and stuff.
But you got to tell him
too,
a lot of that does come
with the territory.
I know,
I know,
I know.
You know what I'm saying?
I think he understand that.
Especially all these years,
especially playing football,
dealing with the media,
dealing with the other side.
Now,
Unc being on the other side
with the media,
I mean,
we do it to the players.
Yeah.
We do it to the players
that's playing.
So,
I mean, all jokes, I don't think it do it to the players. That's the plan. So I mean, all jokes.
I don't think it bothers them because we've been in it so long.
I enjoy it.
I like the jokes.
You look like you enjoy it.
Yeah, I want you talking shit about me.
Oh, shit, I'm sorry.
You can curse.
You can curse.
Okay, well, fuck that.
I love what y'all doing.
I love seeing all the athletes
that are controlling their own platforms from y'all to Cam to the Pivot to all the smoke. I love it.'all doing. I love seeing all the athletes that are controlling their own platforms from y'all to Cam to the pivot to all the smoke.
I love it.
We need that because you got to understand us as athletes.
Remember, the mainstream media controlled how we're perceived on the outside.
So ESPN and Fox and all those were able to get out to the masses and try to tell them who we really are.
Now we've cut out the middleman, and we are the voice.
We are the voice now, and I think it's dope.
I think it's really dope.
I think it's amazing.
I wanted to ask you, we were talking about it the other day,
Russell Wilson.
I know you came here for other business,
but I just wanted to ask you this first.
Russell Wilson.
I'm here.
I got five hours.
Okay.
So I must take you guys.
I'm ready.
No more.
Russell Wilson, so he was released, but he still gets $85 million
and can play for another team?
Yeah.
Yeah, most definitely.
Obviously, it's the owners.
It's the owners.
The owners of the Broncos come in very rich, very wealthy family, but have no understanding of what it takes to build a winning team, a winning organization.
So you think you get Russell Wilson, you pay him all this money, and everything's supposed to, at the snap of a finger, just turn around.
That's not the way it works.
You bid around him.
It takes time to build a winning team. Obviously
in business, what you guys do, you fix everything
with money. It's not the way it works in the NFL.
Especially as an owner. If you have an NFL background,
you understand that. But listen,
you pay him all this money.
You have dead cap now. You have to
pay him what? $85 million.
$85. He gets to go to another team
and double dip.
You get the double dip
the owner is really not understanding
and having
like dude
it takes time to win
you know
Russell Wilson former NFL
Super Bowl winning quarterback
he's been to multiple playoffs
multiple Pro Bowls he knows what it takes
I mean you're impatient because you always do everything with money
and you try to fix situations, but in the NFL, it's not going to work like that.
It does make me wonder if Russell was that good in Seattle
or was the system that good in Seattle.
Russell, he was that good.
Okay.
Yeah, he was that good.
And I think he was good, especially this past season.
He was good as well.
He showed you he was not – obviously, the first year wasn't as good as we liked,
but Russell Wilson played
up the par
and they still let him go.
And now what?
You just set everybody back again
because you starting all over again.
Who you gonna bring in?
There's nobody out there.
Yeah.
Ryan, you are the CEO
and founder of Community Media.
Tell us about that. No, for sure. And again, we're excited to be out here for sure. But Community Media, Tell us about that.
No, for sure.
And again, we're excited to be out here for sure.
But Community Media, we're a media company based in Atlanta, Georgia,
with the mission to basically amplify black creators, black gamers.
And that's actually how we got to link with Chad.
Almost about a year ago, we were brought into an opportunity to create an experience
at the MLS All-Star Game last year that happened in Washington, D.C.
But what a lot of people haven't realized is that all the professional sports leagues,
the MLS, the NFL, and the NBA, they all now have professional gaming leagues attached
to their leagues as well.
So we were part of the EMLS experience.
We got to shoot some content with Chad, and that really started the conversation that
ultimately led to him becoming like our first ambassador, not only for community media,
but what we're building across the HBCU Esports League
and the HBCU gaming ecosystem as well.
So literally for us, we throw live gaming events, live concerts,
working with major brand partners like Verizon, Discover, Nike,
Hot Pockets, Mountain Dew, and you're really utilizing these platforms
to provide other means of scholarships for young black and brown students.
It's crazy.
I had to DJ something at the Barclays and it was a gaming event and I didn't
know what it was.
They paid me outside.
I go DJ.
And the fact that it was sold out just to watch people game.
Yeah.
I said,
Jesus Christ,
this is a business,
man.
I never knew people would pay that much to see other people game,
not a regular game,
like to play on a joystick.
I'm like,
this is amazing.
And that's,
I guess what part of what you're doing.
Yeah. So like a few years ago when we started this whole thing what we learned is that 83 percent
of black youth play video games on a daily basis but when you look at the global 200 billion dollar
industry there's only four percent of us that work full-time in that industry so just like everything
else like in media like in you know the front office of sports like in tech so what we decided
to do is like how do we engage our community because the first thing we always need to know is like we have to be engaged and
entertained in order to get like in stream interest so like how do we create avenues to
like help young black and brown kids turn their passions into professions so yeah we focus a lot
on the competition but we're really really more so focused on helping these kids learn how to become
content creators learn how to code their own video games, learn how to be in legal professions.
Like there's everything really ties back into this space.
You know, health professions, doctors and surgeons helping with carpal tunnel.
So we're not necessarily trying to bring people into gaming per se, but we're saying like,
yo, if this is a passion for yours, here are all of these different avenues and areas that
you can tap into because our community has always been told to get off the joystick when
other communities have been in this space for 10, years and now we're playing catch up so coming back to 2020 is
when my business partner chris he went to north carolina central i went to oakwood university in
hudson alabama and we were literally just talking in the office one day we're like yo i bet you my
school can be your school and call it duty out the blue we found four kids from my school his
school they went head to head they loved it so much they told all their friends at other hbcus and like yo let's just start a league for this
that's dope but i think you know i see you wearing a fam you went let me get a little uncomfortable
yeah just get my thing right there y'all know who's wearing the gear you know just just i'm
wearing the greatest hbcu of all time not just fam you this is the highest of the seven hills
okay well this is Hampton University,
the real H-U, just to
feel comfortable, Mr. Oakley.
But I was going to ask, do you think the HBCU
should change the curriculum? Because a lot of them
are real old school, and I'm sure
they don't have a gaming content where
these kids are making millions of dollars, and even
YouTube creators making millions of dollars,
hundreds of millions. So the answer is yes.
Up until 2020, this didn't exist in the HBCU ecosystem.
Like it was brand new.
So the competition, the curriculum development, the internship opportunities, all that is now being put in place.
Because I'll be real with you.
Like our goal is not to sell like hoop dreams to the black community that, yo, if you get into gaming, you will make a million dollars.
Because that's very few and far in between.
But you can get a decent job.
You can have a nice paying job doing something that you love to do.
But it's really about first and foremost educating everybody, right?
So that's why this opportunity for us is so important
because having that microphone to let people that look like us
know that these opportunities exist is step one.
Once that becomes a thing, I guess taking a step back too,
it's really, really important to understand that like 30,
I think close to 30 out of 50 states in this country also now have varsity high school esports.
So a few years ago, we actually partnered with the New York City Department of Education and we ran a tournament called the Battle of the Boroughs in partnership with Microsoft, which was literally a Minecraft tournament to engage kids during COVID and like keep them engaged in their high schools.
And like so for us, it's like, you know, as this ecosystem is being built out at the high school level, it's being built out at the college level. What we noticed is that there
was no black schools in general. There was no inner city schools and there were no HBCUs taking
advantage of this. So it was like, what do we have to build? What do we have to create? Who do we have
to tap into to like really build out this ecosystem? So for me, we look at gaming the same way we look
at football and basketball. You have high school leagues. You have AAU programs.
You have after-school programs.
You have professional leagues.
You have job opportunities.
And that's the same pipeline that we're building and establishing right now across gaming.
Is that what y'all was pushing at Cannes last year?
Yeah, so actually when we seen you in Cannes, the event you was at was actually like our gaming activation.
Really?
It was crazy.
They unplugged everything before the party started because they thought it was gonna make the room too hot exactly so that space though was
rented from a larger activation that week and so that entire week at can we had gaming activations
we're doing panels we're educating brands and agencies about how do you invest in this space
that's what we was talking to you about in france got you it was funny like we've met charlemagne
close to seven years
ago now, when you did your first Black
Privileged book signing in Atlanta.
And every time I seen her, I'm like, yo, I don't know when
or how it's going to happen, but we're going to end up on here, and we're going to be
talking about what we're going to do. And then, lo and behold,
the opportunity came up. And we're also creating
that experience again this upcoming
summer at Cannes as well. So shout
out to her name is Adrienne
Smith with Inkwell Beach. Oh yeah.
Inkwell Beach. So that's exactly who we were.
Now Chad you had dinner with Antonio
Pierce the Raiders coach?
Yeah. And you tweeted that you were
going to ask for a coaching job? Yeah.
Actually I was going to ask y'all for a job too.
I was going to ask y'all. I know y'all
have an opening. I know y'all can make some space.
It's just got filled. No, no, no,
no, no. We can add. We can add.
Add another chair. The more the better.
The merrier. But I was in Vegas
Super Bowl and
I went and had
it wasn't just me. Obviously
other people were there with Mr. Pierce
and having dinner. And I just tweeted
out the picture with him and I. I'm playing
around. I'm a jokester
about, listen, I finally got offered a job
as a Raiders coach. And then Antonio went behind
me and said, I can't wait to have you
working with our receivers.
That's what sparked it.
I can't coach.
I have 37 other jobs.
I have 37 other jobs
right now and I wouldn't have time. Coaching is
really not my thing. You got a passion for football though.
I have a passion for the game of football and not coaching.
I have a passion for playing. If there's somebody that
want to bring me back, then I'll come and do that.
At 46, you would play? I'm 56.
Yeah, what I play?
Stop listening to me.
Be a jokester.
If you 56 and calling Shannon Unc something wrong.
I mean, you say Unc in general.
I was born in 68.
Oh my god
So y'all ain't
So that means y'all
Ain't do your homework
I did
We did my homework
46
You born in 1977
I was born in 1960
At a Jackson Memorial
Hospital in Miami
Oh my god
We stopping there
So would you
Would you play the league
Would I
Yeah
Today
You can't even hit nobody
Yeah I'd be able to play
You can't hit nobody
Look at the rules
Look at the rules.
They're playing flag football.
You think that ruins the game?
You know what? The NFL is all about protecting the players.
But again, I see they're trying to add
an 18th week. Is it really
about protection? Or is it about the bottom
line at the end of the day? Money.
Maybe we know what it is. Come on now.
The players are getting bigger, faster, and stronger, but the dimensions of the day, money. Maybe we know what it is. Come on now. The players are getting bigger, faster, and stronger,
but the dimensions of the field have yet to change.
So if everybody's bigger, faster, and stronger,
there's only so much you can do in making the car safe.
Because at some point, if you're driving 100 miles an hour,
you're crashing into a wall.
Regardless of what you do from a technical aspect,
you're going to get hurt.
The car is going to crumble.
I mean, same thing when it comes to football players.
Do you think widening the field would make people safer?
I mean, it would help with everybody.
You got D. Lydman, 350 pounds, you know, running 4.5.
What?
I seen that the other day.
Yeah, crazy.
So why do you drive a Prius?
I drive a smart car.
That's what I'm saying.
It's one of the safest vehicles out there, very cost efficient.
I get 55 miles to the efficient. I get 55 miles
a gallon. I get 55 miles
a gallon and I can park anywhere. People always
make fun of my damn car. But no, because you said it's
smart. That would make it more prone to, if you get in an accident,
it'd be something bad. No, no. It's one of the safest.
It's been battle tested. Okay.
That's why I drive it. And obviously, because I'm cheap
as hell. I've been having that
since like 2004. Wow. And I just,
my friend, I ain't been in New York in about, maybe feel like to me, like 11, 12 years. I sit been having that since like 2004. Wow. I ain't been to New York in about
maybe, feel like to me, like 11, 12
years. I see the New York Police Department.
They got smart cars. Yeah. Oh, who they gonna
catch? That's traffic.
Oh, it's traffic. That's traffic. So they ain't
trying to go after nobody. No, no, no. That's traffic.
Look at them copying my style.
Was you
serious about, I think Dion wanted you at Colorado
at one point or that was a rumor?
Right now I work for the Buffs as a recruiter
So I'm just recruiting
for Prime
So he send you out just to talk to the players?
Yeah he don't have to see me I do it myself
Actually I can't tell when he bullshit
I wouldn't lie to you
I lied for you before i lied to you
yeah yeah yeah so you do it but it's not official it's official because if i'm doing it i ain't
doing it for free i don't do i don't do nothing but he doesn't have to tell you already know who
you should be looking at already bingo got you got you got you because we over there in colorado
we're trying to beef up the interior offensively and defensively so i know exactly what i'm doing
got you yeah got you and and uh you made a bet before the Super Bowl that if the Chiefs lost you
would give up eating McDonald's we know you love McDonald's yeah yes I can't
believe you ain't never got a deal with McDonald's to be honest with you I own three
franchises so I really can't have a deal that's right you better flex thank you
you said you would divorce your wife and give up sex for the rest of the year
yeah were you really ready to give all that up I mean I knew the Chiefs were
gonna win so that's why i made something i knew the chiefs were gonna win that's why i made such an extreme
bet yeah yeah she was pissed she was pissed but i needed her to understand you know who you married
sometimes i go out on a limb i say some things that you're not going to agree with but you know
how i feel about you and i'm going to we'll be good you see who won the game right that's right
absolutely yeah i got the script you got this i got the script you believe that when people say that the nfl scripted you can't script that you got 11 dudes that no
hell no it's impossible but if you talk about jobs what y'all think about what bringing me in
now i don't think it'll work as a full uh i don't need to be full-time part-time
like monday and tuesday i'm at four i don't know if the four could i don't want to be full-time, part-time, like Monday and Tuesday. I'm at four. I don't know if the four could work.
Why not?
Because it's like a triangle offense.
But that's outdated.
No.
It is outdated.
Not in radio.
In NBA, not in radio.
And then sometimes we got five because we have Teslin Figueroa,
who she does front-page news, politics.
So sometimes it's, you know.
You mean four.
So this is like your way of telling me.
No, it'll be if he comes on.
Oh, yeah, it'll be five. I think they're telling you no, Chad. Is that your way of telling me. If he comes on, it'll be five.
Is that your way of telling me no? I think they're telling you no.
Yeah, pretty much. I'm too
dark, huh? Oh my God.
I'm dark. No, but you
lightening every week.
We don't see it.
Were you really thinking about going to the UFL?
Nah, hell nah.
How much they pay?
I don't know.
You said that.
You tweeted.
You don't even know what you be tweeting.
Yes, you tweeted that you were considering playing for the Memphis Showboats.
I'd be in a moment.
I'd see something.
Yeah.
And then I instantly tweet it and I forget about it.
But the fact that you mentioned the UFL, I want to know how much they pay.
Yeah, I don't even know.
Because I'm trying to diversify my portfolio.
Yes.
And my resume.
And the fact that you won't hire me, I mean, I were for black people i thought you were for uplifting i'm trying to understand what's
the problem well speaking of uplifting you know your uncle shannon he be do you feel like he puts
himself in in a lot of these positions himself like for instance like him jumping out the car
the like two days ago what do you think no what do you think about it? It was cool. He's promoting his liquor brand.
Okay.
Promoting his congack.
He was doing a signing.
He was explaining it to people.
He's on the road.
He has to fly here,
fly there,
do signings.
And it's,
I like it.
Of course,
people making,
trying to make jokes
and lighting every goddamn thing he does.
Everything.
And,
dude,
my aunt is hurt.
He had two hip replacements.
That's what I said.
That's what I said.
We understand.
That's what I jumped to.
Hall of Famer.
He's been beat up.
You know, technology wasn't as advanced as it is now.
So being able to recover from some of those injuries, it's tough.
And he grown.
He's tough.
You're 55 years old and you got to run this circuit now?
Like, you got a whole new life in media?
Yeah.
You're like, okay, now. Always on the go go yeah so there's a microscope microscope on them obviously you bring
somebody on you because you're volatile towards everybody else so they're going to be volatile
back i think he understands that and you have to welcome that and he's okay with it i welcome it
too i want i need people to come at me because I got jokes. Well, you got to do something. I do. Okay.
Damn. Tell me what to do. You got to do
something to put yourself out there.
Okay, okay. I still don't believe
you're 56. He's not 56.
How are you 46? Look at the wrinkles now.
Look at the wrinkles.
Where? You see it?
No.
The lady put makeup on me so
it's hard to see. You got no makeup on me you know
all right look at the angle you see it no are you an asap rocky related in any way
y'all know me and asap cousins now i gotta explain everything
there's a reason me hey we look just alike right y'all y'all i'm just i'm tall as hell just asap
he's been the fashion i'm at target at Target, H&M, Zara.
So that missed me.
And I'm not really spending no money.
He get his stuff free.
And I think we're going to collab on something in the future.
I've really been getting into music and trying to, again, diversify my portfolio.
You never know what Ocho is playing.
I don't know.
But one thing I've always liked about him is I do like how frugal you are.
I'm cheating.
Like, I've learned a lot of ways of just being frugal, watching you over the years.
That just started.
That just started.
No, it did not.
Ocho had some cars.
He had Lambos.
He had big trucks.
That was about 15 years ago.
No, no, no, no, no.
That was 20 years ago.
That was 20 years ago.
You got to understand, the fruits of my labor, those were not bought with football money.
That was from, obviously i i own three what
pingo so i'm not spending anything i'm using or my hard-earned money on the field
the stuff i did off the field tv shows endorsements card signings and then you got to think those cars
you just name i only had for three years and got rid of them because i didn't need anymore
my name my name ocho it was it was a It was a little bigger than anything I could purchase at the time.
So it made no sense.
Visually, visibly, you know who I was no matter where I went.
So what the fuck am I buying a goddamn Lambo for?
Why am I driving a Ferrari?
Nigga, you Ocho.
It didn't make any sense.
Even though outside of the image, know when you're young you know
you're trying to impress the women and but what man i'm holding oh shit no you're good the women
have already googled what you're making so there's no need bro one day me and pete davis pete davison
wanted to go buy cuban link chains i remember this you okay and i i told him i said we don't
need to buy real ones because i saw you say that. Yeah. And so we went and got $3,000 gold-plated Cuban.
Ain't nobody ask no questions.
Stay in his neck.
Stay in his neck.
Your neck was green as a monster.
Stay in his neck.
But ain't nobody ask no questions.
Yeah.
I mean, listen, man.
For one, it's hard for people to move the way I've moved.
I've been doing this now the past 30 years.
It's hard because people, we caught up in the image.
And looking a certain way becomes your identity.
Driving a certain car becomes part
of your identity. People focus
on image and look in a certain way because
I want to look like I got it.
I just was the complete opposite and really
didn't care what anybody thought.
I wanted to ask you too, man. You remember when
French Montana made Ocho Cinco?
Ocho Cinco.
You know what? I have a problem. I need to
holla at French for
my royalties.
Yeah, because I ain't getting no royalties.
Can't even hit you up and ask you, can you do that?
It's not his place. I don't think you get royalties
for saying your name, right? No, I don't know.
I don't think so. How many women offered you
Ocho Cinco because of that song?
What's that?
On my left hand. This was back in the day.
That's always so long ago.
He don't indulge.
Yeah, I don't like that.
I ain't trying to start no argument.
I'm with you.
I'm with you.
I'm with you.
I'm with you.
I'm with you.
I'm with you.
I'm with you.
I'm with you.
I'm with you.
I'm with you.
I'm with you.
When I get home, you're not.
You're not.
You're not.
You're not.
You're not.
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You're not.
You're not.
You're not.
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You're not.
You're not.
You're not. I don't move because offering, there's always something on the back. It is a catch.
You got to think anything on the outside is always an added expense.
Yeah.
Because there ain't nothing free.
Yeah.
Even if they offering.
Mm-hmm.
You got to give something to give.
Mm-hmm.
I ain't doing that.
How'd you feel about the record?
It ain't bother me.
Yeah.
It ain't bother me.
Mm-hmm.
You know, we all make mistakes in life.
Mm-hmm.
We all do.
You know, I pick myself up, dust myself
off, put my head forward
and kept moving.
I fucked up. See?
DJ, Jess,
I fucked up. Real shit.
Took responsibility.
You gotta keep
moving. That's it.
Ain't look back. I've been fighting. I've been fighting
that mountain I fell from ever since. Fighting to climb back. We here now. And you look back. I've been fighting. I've been fighting that mountain I fell from ever since.
Fighting to climb back.
We here now. And I just asked
for a job and y'all told me no.
I was just talking about head.
I know.
You know what I'm saying?
Yeah, I'm just bringing it for a circle.
Yeah, got you.
His head leaves the other things. He was just bringing it
all around. I tell you what you don't fuck up
on parenting yo i love the way you are with your daughter yo i love this shit that shit is amazing
i love this i mean you got one or two i got i have one on the way and then i have uh an 11 year old
boy y'all man i love it i love it i'm on i'm on i mean i have 11 you have 11 children. Damn. Man, stop listening to him. You know I don't have 11 kids, man. Because you stopped listening to this man already.
You got 11 kids, man.
This man is an entertainer, man.
So he was Nick Cannon before Nick Cannon.
I was Nick Cannon before Nick Cannon.
I was future before future.
I know.
That's right.
You know, I've been doing this for a very long time.
I'm not sure why I would love when they talk about fathers.
I would wish they would want me in that.
You should be in there.
I should be in there because I also have a lot of kids
and I'm I'm hands-on I'm thankful for those I have kids from and uh they're really what makes
this this train roll you know go because most of the time people that have one just one they're
going through hell yeah and it's hard to to find success when you don't have kids with the right people.
Yeah.
It's hard because they can make a life of living hell.
Yeah.
Living hell.
And I do have 11.
Serious.
All together.
I believe you.
You got 11?
Nobody going to lie about having more.
Well, I don't lie about that.
Niggas lie about.
I got.
So, what, you had three over the last year?
Yeah.
Yeah, I'm working.
I'm working.
You got no leather kids, man. I'm working.'m working eight i ain't see no 11 but well i'm married so then i have the those are also my kids okay yeah so 11 and i'm working on 12 right now oh no that's right yeah that's right yeah
keep on multiplying congrats on the ring of honor too. Appreciate it.
How'd that feel?
It was cool.
It's good to, obviously as much as I gave back to that city of Cincinnati,
I love the fans.
I had fun. I did all I could.
Obviously the end goal is to win a Super Bowl.
I can't do that by myself.
We fell short as far as that is concerned. But to receive those flowers for all the work that you put in throughout those years, it means a lot.
And to see my name obviously embedded, cemented into that stadium,
that was a good feeling.
A good feeling, man.
Because not too many times are we able to get the flag.
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Feeling tired? Depressed? A little bit revolutionary?
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Because in order to make history, you have to make some noise. I feel like at some point there was a period when you were playing that you realized, and to get those while I'm still here, young, live, and vibrant at that,
that's dope.
I feel like at some point there was a period when you was playing that you realized exactly what you're doing now.
You've got to be a personality.
Yeah, I had to.
I figured that out year three.
Year three.
I was setting myself up in year three for the long haul.
And, oh, the NFL hated it back then.
They weren't about individuality but i
understood what it's going to take to keep me moving once the small window of opportunity
with football closed i got to be you got to be a personality you have to be a character in in some
sort and back then there was no i mean it was social media but not like it is now yeah so i
understood i had to get it while it was hot and i I ain't played in damn near 11, 12 years.
Was there pushback from the league with that?
With players being personalities?
Yeah, it ain't like that.
You know, they call it your diva.
A distraction.
That's the words that they use.
But I ain't going to pay them people no mind.
Especially you and T.O.
You and T.O.
It seems like they kept it talking on y'all back.
They don't like that.
They don't like that.
You know?
If they can't promote it,
you got to be a quarterback.
I know that y'all are really close.
Do you think he'll ever get in the Hall of Fame?
He made it.
They made him wait.
Yeah, he made it.
He made it.
Matter of fact, this is the funny thing.
Obviously, statistically speaking,
he's one of the greatest of all time.
That's obviously Jerry Rice.
His numbers are what they are.
And then it's T.O. and Moss.
I mean, that's my 1A and 1B.
And they didn't, his first year of eligibility, they didn't let him in.
So he said, well, forget y'all.
He held his own ceremony at his college.
Oh, yeah, I forgot about that guy.
Damn.
That's why you probably don't remember because he was like, forget y'all.
Y'all want to play?
Damn, I forgot about that. Hall of Fame why you probably don't remember because he was like, forget y'all. Y'all want to play? I forgot about that.
Hall of Fame is politics, man.
It's politics.
It's the game I'd rather not play.
And I understood that early in my career.
So they pick and choose who to let in.
And I hate that players allow that to weigh on them.
Like always knocking on the door wanting to be in so bad because of that need for validation oh i finally made it which is why i donned my own jacket while
i was still playing because at that time after that catch i felt i was hall of fame worthy because
i crossed a certain amount of certain amount of yards so i'm not waiting on y'all to put me in
i'm induct myself i don't want to play politics. I would have been a politician. I wonder with this new media that y'all have,
how much pressure do y'all put on
the league
to do right by players?
I don't think it's no pressure
at all because the league can always do what the league wants to do
at the end of the day.
Always at the end of the day.
They're going to always do what they want to do.
How much change did you see in the league since you left
to now? It seems like the politics have come down a little bit.
Yeah, a little bit.
The politics have come down and the safety for the players has gone up.
But at what cost?
Because at the end of the day, it's always about a dollar.
It's always about the bottom line.
NFL's bottom line will always be money.
So changes are happening, but they're finding a way to make sure that they continue to turn a profit at all costs.
I know I asked you earlier when we were talking about the game is changing, but I just remember as a kid, and not to say, it was the excitement of a hit.
It was the excitement of my wide receiver mushing somebody in the face.
It was that excitement.
Does that excitement still happen in the league?
Do people still, you know, like to see Lawrencerence taylor crack somebody you know i mean hit somebody he
was like you wanted to say right right right but now it's like i feel like these players are too
scared and they almost hurting themselves trying not to they're going they're going to hurt
themselves because of the rules that the league has now upheld you can't hit anybody if you're
bigger faster and stronger, right,
and you've been playing the game one way your entire life,
I understand there's a way to adjust,
but it's hard to adjust moving at the speeds that they do now,
especially if you're a defender.
You can't touch anybody at that line.
You can't hold.
You can't do anything.
And now they're making it to the point where you can't hit.
So what's going to give?
It's going to be you because you're going to do something wrong you can't hit. So what's going to give? It's going to be you.
Because you're going to do something wrong
that's not natural.
You're going to end up hurting yourself. And until somebody
actually hurt themselves, then
you'll... It's tough.
It's tough. And from the outside looking in, there's
really nothing I can say because I'm not playing
anymore. But do you think it would be so much
easy for you? Because you were a target, right? You were somebody that
they wanted to pop. I wanted, yes. Because my mouth
is like, you wouldn't be that
target. You would be able to catch even more balls
than before. I think that's
a certain level of comfort with receivers today
because they know they can't be hit.
During my time, the time before
mine, during that tenure, you were
a little cautious. You understood.
You weren't going across the middle. You know you jump
up. Yeah, something's up. Something's coming.
Today, not so much. That's why
you see everybody being pretty with the one hands
and doing all this knife
acrobatic stuff as opposed to back
then. I mean, you'll do it, but you're a little
bit more cautious.
I wonder if that's going to make people not want to
play fucking defense.
I'll just be an offensive player. With the money
they passing out absolutely
you gonna play
yeah
you gonna play
the money's crazy
these days
it's crazy
big time
do you feel like
you missed out
no
on that aspect of it
no not at all
because
man what I did
I did what I was
supposed to do with it
ain't spend nothing
which is never spend it
yeah yeah yeah
so you still got it.
I'm still in.
I'm rolling.
I'm rolling real good now.
Rolling good.
I'm rolling good.
What I want to ask you,
we back on parenting
because I wanted to ask you this,
but I just thought about it again.
You want me to babysit?
Yes, you actually can.
You actually can.
That's why y'all need to hire me.
Now you want me to babysit.
Look at the,
listen,
look at the position
I can do here at Breakfast Club boom you deliver i'm here i start
as an intern as your babysitter okay so you can bring the baby to work boom i'm here set you ain't
gotta worry about nothing i change pampas milk burp feed everything so i can start like that
and then work my way up as the baby gets older okay then you give me a position at a chair like I want I want them in these chairs these chairs is nice so I work my
way up the ladder but I just I'm trying to diversify my portfolio and would like to work
here how much diversity in the portfolio do you need you need 37 jobs you're 56 you say you got
11 kids I'm choosing to believe him at this point how How active, well, you're very hands-on.
How can you still be so active in your kid's life?
It's easy.
You got 37 jobs.
My kids, everybody in college except two.
My daughter runs track at University of Kentucky.
My son is at Arizona State.
I have an older daughter who's 26.
Jakyra, hey, baby, I know you're going to see this.
My daughter's at Prairie View A&M.
You know? She just...
Wait, I don't think I'm allowed to say that.
But she's at Prairie View A&M. I was getting ready to talk
about something that just happened for her that was really good, but I can't
say it. And
little ones.
And then I have French Fry.
French Fry from a little two-year-old. Baby Kennedy.
Cha-Cha, her sister.
And I need more.
You want more? I need more. Okay.
You want more?
Yes.
You want more kids?
I have time.
Okay.
I have time.
Yeah.
I have time because I'm retired.
Yeah.
So I'm trying to diversify my portfolio.
That's why you're trying to get more jobs.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I was so busy when I was playing,
I never got the full experience
of what it's like to be a father.
Got it.
Oh, wow.
I was always gone.
Wow.
So, yeah.
Yeah. And you stay in shape.
So, you know,
I don't need you to.
Jess, you want me to take it off?
Don't get your ass in trouble.
Don't get your ass in trouble.
You got married?
No, I will be getting married.
Let's win.
You got to ask him.
But that's the thing.
I'm going to crash over it.
It's coming.
I want to sing. I'm surprised you ain't over the want to sing i'm surprised you ain't over the pastorate
no i was ordained but my license you know i'm serious i was ordained but my license
expired so i gotta redo my i gotta redo my shit when the last one you ever did what's the last
wedding you did um my homeboy bobo at the City. Okay. Yeah, I married him and his wife.
He married to a Bonquisha, something Quisha.
I don't know if you're telling the truth or lying.
No, no, no.
I was an ordained minister.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
You know what?
They canceled me one time, and I remember this, when your wife had her show.
Uh-huh.
Oh, yeah, they came.
It was at your head.
Right, it was at your head. Right, it was at my head.
And I said,
I was like,
I feel like the network
is not showing the sisters
sell the houses enough.
And then they got mad at me
and said I was coming from that.
I was like, no,
I want to see more of it on TV.
Right, right, right.
They're just showing the beef
and the drama
and I hate that they show that
with black women.
But when they have
the white women show,
they show all the houses they sold.
Set that shit straight, Ocho Cinco.
I know the wife said it straight. And I was mad. I was like, they should houses they sold. Set that shit straight, Ocho Cinco. I know the wife said set it straight.
And I was mad.
I was like, they should show the sisters.
Set them straight, Ocho Cinco.
It's hard for me to set them straight.
I would need her here.
I would need her here to be able to explain her side of the story.
But I understand what you mean.
Obviously, they were selling houses.
But one thing, if they were just selling houses, right, how many eyes is that going to appease to?
I get it even even today just in general you got to have some type of drama type of something yeah
yeah i mean just just in general and all that we do so like even
the data is we need some type of drama somebody just say something i wonder about that
up until recently i don't think y'all had a lot of drama on Nightcap.
Oh, no.
Oh, no.
And it's not even really drama.
Y'all just have dressed in.
No, we haven't had any drama.
That's because he was on probation.
Yeah, I was on papers.
Okay.
He's on papers now.
Yeah.
I mean, I think Shannon and I, we play off each other, and the chemistry is so goddamn
good, we don't even have to do that.
Yeah, people just like hearing y'all talk.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And then it's to see us in a different
space that you never get to see us in and and talk the way we are because it's like the barbershop
locker room and in a way you've never seen us before i think that's what is more appealing
to the audience as opposed to it being any drama i think the best thing uh with all of these
platforms is showing that athletes are not dumb. Because there was always
that stereotype of dumb jock.
Especially in football. I think
y'all are beyond shattered.
Most definitely.
One last thing.
The NFL is not testing
players, I don't think, for marijuana anymore.
And that's what I think I read.
And they're saying that a lot of the players were saying that's good because they use that to help heal and help for injuries.
You know what?
I'm not.
That's a good one.
That's a good one.
Someone that I've never had smoke weed before.
I'm a heavy man.
Cut it out.
On my mama.
Every time you say this, I'll be thinking about.
So I got to remind myself he's from Florida and the craziest people in the world come from the Bronx and all of Florida.
So think about this. Everybody else that come from Florida and the craziest people in the world come from the Bronx and all of Florida so think about this
everybody else that come
from Florida
yeah
they're flashy too
and what am I
the complete opposite
but you a different type
of flash
no no no
yeah yeah yeah
no but all jokes aside
my mama rest in peace
who just passed away
in 2021
on Hurricane Paula Johnson
I've never had weed before
oh so you was
I was dead
so from the time
you walked in
you was bullshitting
yeah I was bullshitting
I kept smoking it you was like I kepted? I was dead. So from the time you walked in, you was bullshit? Yeah, I was bullshit. I kept smoking it?
I kept talking about my cigars.
Oh, see, I just assumed
it was weed. See, that's my fault. Nah, I don't smoke no weed.
I ain't never had no alcohol before. Really?
Yeah, never drank. What? Nah.
So that's why you looking at 56 like this.
Yeah, I don't smoke.
So what's your vice? McDonald's? Cigars.
Okay. I smoke three a day.
Matter of fact, I'm sitting here itching, ready to
hit, there's a cigar bar
somewhere here, a private, private,
I forgot the name of it. You gotta have a
membership, you know what I'm talking about? I don't smoke cigars.
Yeah, so I heard about it in New York.
I don't frequent here, so I'm curious
to check it out today. What's the law when it ain't
like no cognac and nothing involved?
I drink cafe con leche or Starbucks.
I just don't drink alcohol.
So with my cigars,
I always pair coffee.
I mean, in Miami, obviously,
it's easy.
Got you.
It's easy, but...
So it's like,
you don't inhale the smoke,
though, right?
No, no, it's all about taste.
I've never had wine before,
but the same way you do
with wine tasting
is the same thing
you do with cigars.
You never had wine before?
That would be alcohol, yes.
I'm saying that.
Yeah.
But I'm just saying.
Oh, no, I don't play that.
I just lost my old girl
my mama
to alcohol poisoning
and I think as a little kid
it always starts when you're young
when you don't do something
I'm not calling it trauma
but just seeing her be someone I wasn't used to seeing
when she was consuming alcohol
so I just promised myself I would never
never, I'm talking about young.
Like, man, woman, who is you?
That's still my baby, though.
Yeah.
I got another homeboy like that.
His mom had a really bad drinking problem,
so it caused him to never touch alcohol.
Just because he saw how it impacted her.
Anyway, but again, with those injuries, the weed,
I've heard the stories.
I never thought it would get to this point
where the NFL is not testing for it.
I thought they wouldn't allow it to happen.
Not suspending for it, they said. Not suspending for it.
Okay. Are they able to monetize on it?
Because, you know, the NFL don't play. They don't find a way to make a dollar.
That's a good question.
So normally, especially when they allow something to happen,
okay, now we find a way we can monetize off
allowing them to smoke weed.
We'll let it happen. It was always surprising
that they allowed betting in
professional sports. Like, you know, growing up
you could never bet legally in professional sports.
And the fact that, you know, they'll break
down an offensive defense and then they'll break down
the draft picks pick. And I'm like, this is crazy.
Yeah. The players can't
bet. They were refused to spend it last year and year before
last about making bets at the
facility on their phones. In the NFL, they track
everything. They track everything. They know
who you hang with in the offseason. They know how much you're spending they know everything literally it's
crazy it's crazy wow they know everything you're doing off the field even during the offseason
you think that's gonna help or hurt the game well it's always been that way no matter what
always even with the legal he always you think you think you're getting away no they know everything
you're doing they know the type of people you're hanging with
they know your finances they know how much you got
they know everything
they know what you're spending
the NFL this is the big boys
even if it ain't all coming from them
they know what you're spending
and they have no problem in giving you
two three hundred million
because they're going to get it all back anyway
over the years
if you get where I'm going
real quick before you get out of here
what is your skin regimen
get out of where
I'm not going nowhere
but what is your skin regimen
my skin
what do you do to keep your skin so clear
let me tell you
for real
and your cousin
got good skin
simple
simple
fair and white
black soap
I get it at the hood
at the hood
beauty supply store
in Miami
I'm not sure where it is
in other states
but fair and white
black soap
you know fair and white
right
no
just simple
fear and white
fair
fair and white
that's all I use
simple
I don't have all
them routines
yeah that's what I'm like.
What is going on?
People pay for stuff like that to your skin.
Like, to get their skin like that.
You know what I mean?
Hmm?
Yeah, I got a dermatologist.
Yeah.
Like, he has a whole skin.
I got fairs.
Yeah, yeah.
That takes too long.
I ain't got time for that.
No, why not?
He's a midget.
He be here slapping himself with all types of lotions and balms and all that type of stuff.
So you ain't never had no chemical pills or nothing?
Chemical who?
Pills.
I don't like grease or anything shiny on my face.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I don't like that.
I don't even like massages.
That oil, that give me an itch.
Come on, man.
As much as body trainers you had.
Yeah, yeah, but I didn't get massages when I was playing.
Really?
I didn't even eat right. I ate McDonald's.
No injuries. Never been hurt.
Thank God.
I can't tell he's 56 when you see his hands.
He is not 56.
That's him for playing football.
That's him for playing football.
Oh, I have seen this.
Yeah, that's what I do.
Okay, dang. Every day. You just watch morning to night. One time, as soon as I take a shower, boom. I've seen Oh I have seen this Yeah That's what I use Okay Okay thank
Every day
You just wash
Morning and night
One time
As soon as I take a shower
Boom
You got your teeth done though
Huh
Your teeth right
Yeah these mine
For real
Yeah
I paid for them
Yeah
See I'm getting me some
I like yours though
Yours don't look like
Nah nah nah
Big ass stupid ass chopper
Yeah I just wanted
The perfect smile
I'm getting the smile.
It was cool because I still suck my fingers.
They shaved it down?
Yeah, a little bit.
A little bit.
Look good, don't?
So they were already your teeth.
You just got them.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, you can tell, yeah.
Look pretty.
Had like a little BBL.
I want that.
A little BBL in the mouth.
Give me that.
I want the BBL in the mouth.
I want the BBL in the mouth.
I want the BBL in the mouth. You don't want your teeth. They're not, but I want the perfect. Like he said, like the perfect. Like want the BBL in the mouth. I want the...
They're not, but I want the... Like he said,
they're perfect. There's just something about that.
It's not going to fix your lisp.
You're still going to have that.
You're not taking care of that big-ass tongue. Nothing.
Hey, can I talk about my project with ASAP, or should I
let that be a surprise? Man, no, because you lying.
Nah, me and ASAP got something
coming out. For real? Yeah.
Yes, music. You didn't heard me rap?
No.
Matter of fact, I'm in New York.
It's 516 right now.
You got to do me a favor.
What's that?
Teddy's better rappers, right?
Right.
I'm here and I'm outside.
Okay.
Cut it out.
Listen, listen.
I'm here and I'm outside.
Listen, Lux, DNA, Clips, Hollow, Goods, Vergebs, letting boys know I'm outside.
I know right now, you know, I'm not sure what's going on with the URL,
with smack and all that, but I'm here.
If they want to ring Kendall and get that fire back going and battle rap,
come holler at your boy.
What are you going to do?
You going to host a league?
Host a league?
I'm trying to battle.
You going to rap?
Man, my 3-0 all them niggas.
Give a 16 right fast.
No, I can't do that
because if i give you 16 i'm gonna need to see some green i'll give you four balls that's a ball
right there huh oh give me 16 but but you know i ain't gonna say nothing me and asap got coming
got some coming out soon so y'all just lay around for that what is it music yeah yes it ain't fashion okay
but you can make like a frugal fashion line you know i mean ain't nobody gonna buy it
why not think about society we about looking the party i mean got it i like being i like
frugal and comfortable you should have seen what he had on yesterday he had a curse of all over
this sweatsuit it was looking crazy. It came from City Trends.
But yeah. It was a
black clothing line called Art Meets Chaos.
It's nice.
It was for children
and he was dressed like a big-ass
kid. An old-ass kid.
Well, I came to New York with one outfit.
I've had this one the past few days.
Oh my God.
They said y'all cool with them.
Oh yeah, that's B-Millions. In Brooklyn? I've had this one in the past few days oh my god we got this hoodie yesterday they said y'all cool with them Saturday
oh yeah that's
I'll be millions
yeah
so we went over there
yesterday
in Brooklyn
yeah
alright alright
I had to go get
some of the other clothes too
I had none
I don't have nothing to wear
I'm going to the Knicks game
I'm going to the Knicks game
tonight
who they playing
you ain't gonna have that on
the Falcons
the Hawks
I mean
the Hawks
I know what you mean
you not gonna have that on
no I'm gonna find an outfit
cause it's the Knicks yeah yeah yeah I'm gonna find an outfit Cause it's the Knicks
Yeah yeah yeah
I'm gonna find out
I'm gonna go to H&M right there
Ain't it?
Yeah they got a good Zara too
That's what it's better for me
You wear Zara too?
I wear Zara
H&M
5 for 21
I get to poppin'
I be looking like a million bucks
You know what I like?
It make you look like
You spent some money
Uniqlo
Uniqlo?
Uniqlo
Oh yeah yeah
They got good t-shirts
Man the material Oh man That's the Asian store? It's like Asian Uniqlo Uniqlo oh yeah yeah they got good t-shirts man the white t-shirts
the material
oh man
that's the Asian store
it's like Asian
but it looks like
Urban Outfitters
but higher end type
Urban Outfitters
yeah yeah yeah
okay yeah
and it is very cheap too
yes
good price point
just gotta go
you do
Ryan
end us with some words man
no I would say
kind of just everything man
like first being here
like everything we're doing across gaming music entertainment like talking about upcoming projects
like the next big thing coming up for us we'll be backstage doing like all the gaming and artists
interviews at rolling loud california so like we're just trying to continue to find ways to
bridge the gap make sure that our people have a seat at the table make sure that they have the
information to make their own informed decisions about what they can do with their own individual
life one thing we always say like stick to the plan because, like, again, you know, with the reschedule,
first off, we're so happy to be able to come through.
With this yesterday, we go here, we learn about the relationship that y'all got with the Saturday folks
and the whole nine, so we're like, yo, everything kind of works and builds on each other.
It builds on itself.
But, like, the main message we wanted to share is, like, again, if parents, aunts, uncles,
you have nieces, nep nephews kids that are trying
to tap into gaming you're telling them to get off the game we just strongly advise to change the
message there's a space because there's actually a real space for it right now i mean within our
league alone the last two years hbcu students have earned over two million dollars playing in our
league so for us we have kids that are earning six figures just by being a part of this and
sometimes these are traditional athletes like we have one kid at florida memorial right now in miami he literally plays on the basketball team
and he's on their esports and gaming team so he's on a scholarship for basketball and he's earning
money in this pathway so what's interesting like the hbcu community the gamers are getting more
nil than the traditional sports athletes so what games should we be having our kids on then so the
games that are mainly in this nba 2k madden call of duty fortnite rocket league mortal combat um mario like super smash all
the games that you know as what literally i do a plan coming up about minecraft minecraft is a big
one too that's what i was listening like we just did an entire new york city battle of the boroughs
we had 125 high schools across all five boroughs going head-to-head in minecraft and the kids were the winner was tasked with whoever built the best new york monument inside
of minecraft so it was a whole linkage between the gaming competition stem-based education
and like that's really really it is like what we're doing because like black parents don't
realize it like yo your kids are on the game but they could be the ones making the game
yeah like a big thing right now in fort is this thing called UEFN, right?
So Unreal Engine Fortnite essentially.
It's the same model they brought into gaming that exists right now in music.
So as a young black person, you can go in and build a custom level in Fortnite.
You will get paid on the hourly play time that people are playing on your level.
And they will share 40% of the revenue with all of their creators. So like so like yo i guarantee you someone in this room got someone that's playing fortnite
my son absolutely okay well your son and his little friends they could be making llcs they
could be little friends yeah they could be they could literally be doing what they're already
doing every day right now and converting that into revenue game companies are then hiring these
young people to then come build out experiences on their behalf but again like when we look at this the biggest divide of what we've seen is those who
grow up with computers versus those who grow up with consoles so when you look at just demographics
black and latinx families generally play on xbox playstation nintendo when you look at the other
side of the coin is computer-based games the reason we've been excluded from this space the
big event that you're talking about those are pcs yeah and so how are you supposed to get in how are high school
kids supposed to get in when the schools themselves can't afford the computer lab to start a gaming
team so a lot of the work that we're doing is working with a verizon to then literally get the
money to build the lab to give the scholarship so the kids can then play in the league or not even
that wi-fi like wi-fi is so damn important in a lot of these areas they don't have strong wi-fi they'd be lagging the kids complaining yes
it was crazy it's like and our first major initiative was um back in may 2020 and we
literally did a streamathon on twitch we had people like offset we had gz uh michael strahan
was a big part of that he raised 118 000 in 20 hours on twitch we took that money and bought
devices mobile hotspots and laptops for kids for kids in Atlanta that were basically could not graduate high school because they didn't have a device because of distance learning.
That's crazy.
So when we looked at this whole thing of gaming and technology, it's really, really not about the kids just playing the game.
But what we realized over the years, we really got to tap into larger voices that are known within media, known within sports, that also have a very strong passion to, like, bring this to the community.
And so now we're going about it like a whole different approach.
So now, like, for us, that's kind of like what's coming up.
That's how we're building this out.
And we just say, like, for parents, like, if your kids are interested in something, they're doing it every day.
We now live in a passion economy.
You can turn your passions into money.
What if your kid sucks?
Not saying mine do,
but a couple friends. It's not even about the being good or bad,
right? It's about, because again, like, I play games every day.
I'm not a great gamer, but we run a media-based
business that's focused on gaming, right?
So again, I turned a passion into a profession.
And what we're saying is like, yo,
how I stay in touch with my family, I'm from
Columbia, South Carolina. 803!
I'm from Columbia, so like, the way I stay in touch with all family, I'm from Columbia, South Carolina. 803! I'm from Columbia.
So like the way I stay in touch
with all my cousins
is through Call of Duty.
So like it's a means
of communication for us,
but I'm not trying to be
a professional Call of Duty gamer.
But no, what I can do
is use the information that I have,
bring that to a bunch of companies
that are trying to touch young people,
trying to connect with diverse audiences,
trying to build with HBCUs.
I'm like, yo, let's just do this
through a whole new league.
You really diversified your portfolio, which is
amazing.
That's right.
I would hope you would help
as well.
All right. I don't mean to be in your
personal business. Yes, sir. Who calls
the shots here? I have to go actually
to a meeting to go see her. She's a woman. What's her name?
Her name's Thea. Thea Mitchell.
Thea Mitchell. I know you're probably going to see this, honey. I know we've never her. She's a woman. What's her name? Her name's Thea. Thea Mitchell. Thea Mitchell. Thea Mitchell.
I know you're probably going to see this, honey.
I know we've never met.
She don't like being called honey,
so you done fucked up.
Yeah, that's right.
Fucked up all the way.
Miss Thea Mitchell.
Mitchum.
Mitchum.
Mitchum.
Thea Mitchell.
I don't know.
I just met her.
I just met her.
If you see this,
I have no problem flying to and from Miami to get here.
I just want a chance.
Just put my foot in the door, and I'll take it from there.
As long as the camera's rolling.
We know we got an iHeart station in Miami.
I want to come here with y'all.
I like the chemistry is there.
Yeah.
Like just the vibe.
I like it.
And I'm telling you, I know what I could bring and help us.
Not that y'all need help because y'all is the shit.
But just add the cherry on top
You don't listen to 1035 in Miami?
I don't listen to the radio at all, I'm a gamer
I know that's right, I'm a gamer
She hates people that don't listen to the radio
She never hires somebody that don't listen to the radio
That's what makes me so great
Because I don't listen to the radio
I still don't listen to the radio, he's lying
So yeah
Yeah, I don't listen either
Ladies and gentlemen,
Ryan Johnson,
Chad Ocho,
Sinko, appreciate y'all for joining us.
Yeah, that's it.
She got to go.
She got a job.
Where you going?
To meet Thea Mitchum.
Absolutely.
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