The Breakfast Club - INTERVIEW: RZA Talks Wu-Tang Final Chamber Tour, Cultural Leaders In Hip-Hop, Time Capsule, Aaliyah + More

Episode Date: March 3, 2025

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Morning everybody it's DJ Envy, Jess Hilarious, Charlamagne the guy, we are the Breakfast Club. We got a special guest in the building. The legend, RZA. He's here back. Welcome. Bong, bong back in the building. How you feeling, brother? I feel super great.

Yeah? Everything is lovely. I see you guys are back on tour. Yes, indeed. Wu-Tang Clan, the final chamber. How difficult was that to put together? Well, you know, it's not as difficult as it used to be. You know what I mean?

But, nah, this is our last chance to run around the globe together. And, uh, yeah, it kind of was everybody, you know, agreed that it was the time. We started thinking of a name. Everybody's like, this one, da, da, da, da, da. The final chamber. So, all right, let's end with that.

So, bong, bong, here we are. Why the final chamber, though? Like, how do you know you're putting the period on this? Is it just for the tour or just Wu-Tang in general? Oh no, I mean Wu-Tang's forever. Forever, what? That's why we put that Wu-Tang forever in there. Because Wu-Tang is beyond just our physical presence

of it, you know what I mean? But for us coming together and coming to your city, all nine members on stage, you know what I mean? You know, when you get your ticket, you getting all that, you getting that, you know what I mean? Because sometimes you go to a rules show, you might get four, five, you know what I mean?

So this is like, nah, here we all are. Clear your schedule for this, you know what I mean? And let's run around the globe one more time together. So we'll start right here in America, give it to, you know, then shoot across the water, you know what I mean? Show some love and just, you know, kind of, best way I can say it is take off that,

it's kind of a burden to all come together, you know what I mean? Because everybody got a life, a job, or something going on in their lives. And so, what we said when that, that sign go up, we all come and the sign went up and everybody said. Did the residency make it easier for everybody to say, yo, we can do this?

The residency helped, but even at the residency, we had some absentees. Mm-hmm. You know what I mean? But it really helped, because it really helped just that consistency of coming together, the consistency of our brotherhood. Our brotherhood really never diminished over the years.

And I think for Wu Tang, we represent community unity. You gotta, that's, you know, so many of us was inspired by like, the Wu is like, you know, your whole neighborhood on stage, you know what I mean? And I think that we could use that right now, I think. You know what I mean? Like even artistically for the culture. You could come in and look at the example of the Wu.

Yeah, so the time is now, you know what I mean? Does it financially make sense? And the reason I ask, you said all eight members, you got DJs, you got, everybody comes with at least one person, security, whatever that means. So that's a lot of money to put out. But you know, Wu-Tang is always for the hood,

so I'm sure you guys are not charging astronomical prices. So financially, was it a financial thing? Is one of those things where it's like, we just need to do this regardless of finances? Oh, the finances, the finances so beautiful because if you just take a moment, right, let's be, and think about the Wu-Tang legacy and think about how many families is eating off of that legacy. You know what I mean, you just take a moment, right? Let's be, and think about the Wu-Tang legacy and think about how many families

is eating off of that legacy. You know what I mean? I'm talking about thousands, right? That legacy has went on from the music to sparking other MCs to figure out their careers, to inspire other producers and MCs, to, and DJs to get up and say, yo, I'm a DJ now.

So, and then when you go on a tour, I mean, I tour, I just saw the tour bus count, got about eight buses. That's crazy. That's crazy. So I'm just trying to tell you. And then all the trucks, the production for this tour is crazy.

We took time to really produce something. You know, since the New York State of Mind, we've only kept elevating the level of production. So it's going to be so many families, union workers, truck drivers, caterers. I mean, the security, it's a village that's wanna eat off of this, and that's the beauty of it in all reality. What's the difference between touring as grown men

versus when y'all was younger? That's a good question. I think like, as men you men, right? Before you trying to get shorty's a line outside your door. You kind of touring for the experience of sex, drugs, and rock and roll, right? But now, you know, you're moving with maturity, and I think you really, I can speak for myself, since I'm the one talking,

I think I really can understand the impact of what the music do and what it means. Right? When somebody hears, I grew up on the crime side, the New York Times side. And they relate that back to their life. Having secondhand clothes, you know what I mean? Even though a lot of us is doing better, a lot of us is doing worse.

You know what I mean? So I think that as a man touring around the world and showing our culture, it's more meaningful than ever. Now, I've seen in an interview that you said you went to each member and said, what do you want to be on this tour? What do you need? And you was able to give everybody that.

How difficult was that? And was there anybody that you couldn't give what they wanted? No, at the end of the day, you gotta be satisfied, right? So we know we're doing mathematics, right? And we know that when there's dissatisfaction, it breeds confusion, right? They say, even when 70% of the people were satisfied,

the other 30% was dissatisfied, and that other 30% went and started their own shit, and now you got competition. So you gotta strive to reach satisfaction, and satisfaction is when someone can say, yo, for me, you know, I don't care if it's just like, yo, I just want bananas every night in my dressing room. That's what you want, you know what I mean?

Let's accommodate that. Let's accommodate the comfortability because I think, I know I see it different. My brother Devon see it different, our whole management team. We know that when you are going out on the road, you're leaving your family. You know what I mean?

You're leaving with your routine of life. And so we wanna make you as comfortable as possible. So this becomes a moment of joy versus a moment of life. And so we wanna make you as comfortable as possible. So this becomes a moment of joy versus a moment of work. Are you confident that every single member is gonna show up for the show? I mean, I'm confident for confidence sake. And I mean, of course I'm confident, but this is life, you know what I mean?

You can make a wrong turn on the 95 and end up in a small town for the night. But now, I mean, far as the intention, right? It's all about intention, and the intention, everybody is intending to be here. So if there's a glitch in the Matrix, you know we'll deal with it. And there's an album to come with this too?

No, no, no. I mean, A Lot of Mathematics has a new album that he put together called Black Sansom. He got a new song called Mandingo he took all like the black exploitation and kung fu movies and did an album and got the entire Wu-Tang Clan MCs on it got Benny the Butcher, Cool G um just just one of those a lot of mathematics albums we is that's dope and he so that that's that's ironically is coming out around the same time but it wasn't like it wasn't wasn't like it was a strategy plan it was just like he finished it at the time when the when

the when the tour is about to happen so that's a blessing for him and then I did hear I could say this on the air I did hear some of Ray Quon's new album too. He's on it. Ooh. Yeah. Yeah? One of those. I'm excited to hear what the other man has.

Hopefully he gets that out before the tour drops and bong bong. Are you involved in Ray's new album? Just, you know, I'm the Abbott, you know what I mean? It comes to the temple and see if the Abbott wanna add some flavor to it or give some wisdom have it, you know, want to add some flavor to it or give some wisdom or advice, you know what I mean? But he's the foundation of it.

He came to me right during the holidays when he felt like he had a nice, I just call it a- Body of work? Yeah, body of work. I was gonna call it dough, like piece of dough. You gotta mold that shit, you know what I mean? But yeah, and we vibed out, listened to it twice and then we said,

ah yeah, I had some vision and shared my vision. But you know, it's him doing it. Ray Quon's always, you know, he's a general. Always, you know, know how to lead himself. But then also as a general, you know, as wise to check in with the Abbot and be like, yo, your Abbot, what's your two cents on this? The thing with Ray's music, you gotta clean your palate. Whenever you listen to any new Ray Quon album, and when I mean clean your palate, you can't have no purple tape on your mind.

Because the purple tape sets the bar extremely high. It's probably, it might be the greatest hip hop album of all time. It's in that conversation. One of those, absolutely. It's in that conversation. Well, one thing about him, it's a few MCs, right, in our business that just when they open their mouth, it sounds like a record.

Nas is one. Yes. Of course, Biggie was one. Jay, Ray. Ghost. Ghost. But no matter what, like when you hear them, you hear a record. You snoop, you hear them, you hear a record.

You know what I mean? And so on this new music, it's just like, these choosing unique ways, unique tracks, but as soon as this voice come in, it's like, oh, it's a record. You know what I mean? Was it difficult, who was the most difficult to get to do this?

And not because of them being difficult, but maybe because of scheduling, right? You got Mef that's acting, you're acting and producing, you got Rayquan that owns a bunch of businesses and these brothers leaving their families. Who was the most difficult to get? It was like, this is gonna be a little tough. I mean- If anyone.

If anyone, I'll say, you know, I won't say difficult, but let's just say, you know, like, you know who does the most shows out of all of us? Who's that? The Jizza? No, the Jizza. Oh, where? Listen, the Jizza is, he's like a jazz musician, yo.

Right, his sketch, it's like, you call him, yo, wanna do the, uh, resonate, say, oh, I got 40 shows, I'm going to Europe. Or, yo, I'm going to 20 shows in Canada. Wow. I'm going to Europe, or yo, I'm going to 20 shows in Canada. Wow. He just, I mean, he stays, that Liquid Swart album, arguably one of the best hip hop albums of all time too. Absolutely, absolutely.

It's just go, go. So you gotta check his schedule, because he definitely is knocking 150 shows out a year. And so we actually had to pace and wait for him. And I'll personally- He had to wait for him. And I'll post it. He had to wait for David, cause he was on tour. Yeah, and I gave him a call. I was like, how's your schedule for this year? Like, you know what I mean?

He was like, I'm good. I need this much time right here. And bong bong. I wanna get back to the tour. I wanna ask you about Liquid Source since we on it. Cause we was having a whole debate last night in the group chat just about Wu-Tang songs, Wu-Tang music, cause you know my guy B.Dot put out

a top 10 greatest Wu-Tang records. And on Liquid Sword, it goes Cold World, labels, Fourth Chamber, and the Shadow Boxing. That's probably one of the greatest sequences on an album. Do you remember arranging that? Yeah, definitely. Okay, definitely That was my that's that's one of my specialties. I think not knowing then right the natural ability of editorial editing or or Having a through line of storytelling, right?

But it was always been my personality and And at that time, it was only expressed through music. Now it's being expressed in direct films and TV shows and all that. But it was the same type of energy. Like I could feel the way it go. I could feel like when the listener is listening, it's like, oh, yo, I want your emotion to rise up, get them up. By the time you got the fourth chamber, you driving, you might get a ticket. You know what I mean?

And I wanted, you know how you feel that right here? Yeah, I always strive to get that feeling. To have your spine, I said the lyrics, I said, march of the wooden soldiers, see sniper punks, try to hold us, a thousand men watching and not wanting to be sold. Peal particular to the square, soldiers, seats like a punk, try to hold us, a thousand men watching and I'm running. No one to hold us. Pelechonicular to the square, we stand low like flair,

escaping the dragon's lair. In particular, my beats travel like a vortex, up your spine to the top of your cerebral cortex. Woo, yeah. That's my goal, is to hit you, bam, and I'm good. When the last time you listened to your verse on 4th Chamber? Cause it's so relevant to the day, that's why I... I mean, nah, I mean, I've been,

I'm back into the study of what, of everything of who right now, you know? This tour, first of all, we got a special guest, Runder Jules. Runder Jules. And so it's like, this is gonna be a lyrical tour. You know what I mean? It's gonna be one of those tours that, you know, you're gonna get your sweat off, guaranteed.

You're gonna get your jumps, you're gonna get your classics, but it's gonna be those moments you're gonna be one of those tours that, you know, you're gonna get your sweat off, guaranteed. You're gonna get your jumps. You're gonna get your classics, but it's gonna be those moments you're gonna be like, mm, I needed that. You know what I mean? Because, you know, words, in the beginning was the word and the word became flesh. You know what I mean? And so those words are healing.

You know what I mean? It's like, and you know, we need it. And I had something I was gonna say to y'all this morning. A law segregation and discrimination is a sickness to any nation. When you deny a portion of the population the chance to experience the elevation, it will only lead to the decimation of your system.

And the next generation will pay for the mistake that will result in economic inflation. Ghetto living, innocent black Latinos and European immigrants stuffed inside housing tenements, low income recipients, they gotta choose between the food or the rent. Neighborhoods are cramped like POW camps and X marked the spot where the insidious policies were stamped. Bad health increasing, bad policing, and there's gentrification and Michael and Brad is leasing. At night, they feel fright from the dimly lit streetlights. My man G, he could beef

and fight, but he couldn't eat right. Loud sounds echoing gunshots. He couldn't sleep right. Wow, what a life when your life ain't worth a loaf of bread or a box of white rice. Yeah, bless be the meek. It's attorney of the cheek. But J-Bone just knocked him out with a sneaky write and put him off his feet. It could come last, it could come fast in the blast. Knock your senses back to the past. It's like old poppin' sounds, a big brass section you hear from old jazz. Me, I stick to a piano key.

Speak from a low A minor to a soprano E. B-O-B, it's the Abbott MC. What's that from? It's something just there. You said he just did it this morning. That's what's in your mind when you're driving. I said something, I said I'm gonna share something here in the phone book.

Are you getting back in the booth then? Because it sounds like you ready. It ain't, you know, whether it's in the booth book. Are you getting back in the booth then? Because it sounds like you ready. It ain't, you know, whether it's in the booth or not, this tour, like I said, this is that moment for the woo to that W, that wisdom, that you, that unpredictability. Like, let's get that back into the system. You know, I honestly feel that woo is like

a part of hip hop culture that's needed, you know what I mean? And whether we could be the ones that continue to physically do it or some young brothers are listening and they pick it up and they come and bring that wave, like there's some young brothers I know, Coach Contra, y'all been seeing them? Yeah, you know what I mean?

Good flows, good style, good everything. Once they start injecting a little more wisdom into that, you know what I mean, good flows, good style, good everything. Once they start injecting a little more wisdom into that, you know what I mean? Hip hop needs that, you know what I mean? It ain't all just about all our money, guns, and sex, and drugs, you know what I mean? That's a portion of it, but it's not all of it. I saw you say something recently where you said

Hot 97 band and Wu-Tang's music contributed to, I guess not just the decline of the group, but just the decline of New York Sound and everything. Yeah, that's it. I mean, you know, we could date that, you know what I mean? We could look at it and see it happening. Because when you're dealing with business, right, like all of us, you know, we got jobs, right?

And so we got to come in and do our job. But the dude say, hey, paint it blue. And you the painter, you got to paint it blue, right? So we gotta come in and do our job. But the dude say, hey, paint it blue. And you the painter, you got painted blue, right? Even though you know like, man, this blue is gonna really turn everybody away, or it's really, the paint got lead in it, or whatever. You still gotta stick to the job. And I think like, at that time, you know,

and even maybe, people were scared to fight for each other. You know what I mean? That's been one of our issues, I think, as our culture. Right? Which, you know, there was a point when the culture started, because of money, we did start accepting each other. I remember when Master P and them would come to New York and we accepted it, you know what I mean?

When Dre and Snoop and Ice Cube, we accepted it. First, we accepted it from the music, right? And that's private. But then when the money, when somebody's blowing money, then you accept it because of the money. And so now you admire him because of his money, but not because of his skill or because of the culture. You know what I mean?

So when that starts happening, it's almost like now you're diminishing the culture because of the money. So yeah, a dude can make a hit. At the end of the day, we talk about hip hop hits. Hammer, Hammer had hits, baby. Hell yeah. Okay, he was going diamond, you know what I mean? And-

And people didn't accept that as hip hop for some reason back then. Even roasting that, right? Even roasting that. And I know I was pretty hard on him and myself, so I'm not like I wasn't, you know, cause I was on some road, right? But we don't even give him his accolades.

So he opened the door at the end of the day. We made fun of him. You mean for commercial success, we get all that, bud. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He helped. Like, see that's why I say Allah is merciful. He gives, he takes a flaw, like, you could take like,

let me give you a quick metaphor, I won't go too deep. But let's look at two of our greatest artists, right? 50 Cent, right? And I'ma say yay, right? Both caught a flaw in their jaw. One from a car accident, one from a tragic street incident, but both now develop a tone that attracts the world.

So from a flaw in the jaw, Allah blesses them more. attracts the world. So from a floor in the jaw, you know what I mean? Allah blesses them all. It's like, nah, now you come back and it's like, this whole swag, this whole everything, it's sharpened without even knowing. So hip hop itself, they say the DJ, the dude was like, he was in his crib, one of the old DJs, right?

He's in the crib and his mom's coming, and he holds the record, huh? And she's like, no, turn it down, blah, blah, blah, he's like, chukka, chukka, chukka, chukka, chukka, holding it, chukka, chukka, chukka, chukka. Now the scratch is invented. That's crazy. You know what I mean?

From a floor. Wow. I remember EZ Mo B was talking, was doing a seminar, I was there, was gambling huff, and B was talking to, was doing a seminar, seminar I was there, was Gamblin' Huff. And he was saying like, yo, how do you guys get that one part of the song, that hi-hat, I think in For the Love of Money, or one of their songs, like those hi-hats, like when it dropped out right there, I sampled it,

I used it in all my beats. And I think Mr. Gamble was like, oh, that was a mistake. Wow. So even if I'm on mistake, right, we've given a chance to multiply and to make something great. You ever had one of those? Yeah.

What was yours? Man, so many, to be quite frank. It's just like, sometimes you could go to your beat machine and it just glitches out. You know what I mean? I feel like Method Man, the original drum, the way it happened was almost like a glitch out, but I liked it.

I just like, I just, I just emulated it. I emulated the mistake, you know what I mean? But I think there's- What the dun dun dun. No, not that, the pop, put the pop, put the pop, ta ta ta, it's like, that's the bounce of it. So then so when a guy like him got it on the mic, he saw Ryan is riding his horse. You know what I mean?

So but there's others too that it just happens like that. You know, when it will floor, you know, I mean, even if you think about shame, right? I mean, Dirty came about shame right I mean dirty came in Late to the studio But he did that verse right one take and then he's like same with niggas That was like He just I said no no no go through it over to nah God They're gonna love it

He was right. He was right. Exactly. You know what I mean? I actually learned from that. Like let it be. That was the one take? One take. Hut one, hut two, hut three, hut.

I threw that, but I threw all of that. Wow. You know what I mean? That's the one thing about Dirty, if we could talk about him for a moment. Shout out to YDB, he'll be on a tour with us. He'll be- That's his son, right?

That's his son, his first born son, boss son. He'll be on a tour with us. He'll be- That's his son, right? That's his son, his first born son, boss son. He'll be on a tour doing his father versus for us. He's been doing it for years and he's been doing a great job. But one thing about Dirty, he almost never say the same lyric twice. I mean, say the lyric the same way twice. If he did it, shimmy shimmy yaw shimmy yam shimmy yay

next time he do it he's not gonna do it like that. He's almost like a once again like a jazz musician he just goes with the spirit you know I mean and he'll tell he'll say a rhyme that we wrote when we was 14 years old and then he was saying it during the woo era and eating motherfuckers up because, how grab the mic and how damage it? You listen to his album, that lyric is on the album twice. Yeah, lyrics on, yeah. Yeah, right, because it was more of a performance, more of a energy that he would bring

versus just the lyrical content. But he was very special in that, I think he helped bring freedom to hip hop expression. Yeah, when they used to talk about, I think they said Jizza used to write for Dirty sometimes, is that true? I'm like, how do you write for Dirty? Like, you named him? Well, that's because we cousins, so that's always, that's like at that table.

We used to go to the Jizza house, you know, this is poverty days, Jizzle may have just, you know, one box of oatmeal and we'll go get some Kaiser buns. You know, our New York, you know what I mean? That's dinner, baby. And we'll still stay there for three days on oatmeal and Kaiser buns, just making pause tapes and writing songs, you know what I mean?

Like, so even when it says, when the MCs came, deliver them. We made that when we was like 14, 15. Wow. And when we was doing Liquid Spores, I was like, yo, let's do that old routine we did at the table and that pause tape.

And we did it and bong bong. You know what I mean? Do you ever remember those records that you lost in the flood? Did you ever get any of that or were able to produce that over or any of that at all? Nothing ever came back like it was. Actually, I'm glad you mentioned that, Envy.

We're building this time capsule for the tour and we're gonna invite our fans to come out and somebody will win every night. You could take something from your woo nostalgia, your woo history and put it in this time capsule. And we all know we're gonna put it there. I may bury it somewhere, I may put it in a museum, but I'm gonna collect something from every city,

from somebody. But the first thing I'm gonna put in there, and I'm kinda telling you for the first time, because I was gonna surprise, I'm gonna take those discs that had Inspector Dex's album, and I'm gonna put it in that time capsule. And if somebody find it years later and open it up and figure out the technology to get all that

or whatever is on it, bong bong. I'm shocked we don't have that now. There's no technology that can get that now? Hasn't happened. We took, you know, Dex, Matt, no, they snuck a few out and tried to do it, you know what I mean? Because it's on floppy disk, yo.

Hmm. You know what I mean? They took it to like, to the NASA people in there and get it. Just couldn't get it out. You know what I mean? He's the one who suffered the most from that flood, right? I would say artistically, yes.

Economically, everybody suffered. It was two floods. I don't know, I just took it like Noah. Wash all your shit away. I've lost more in life than I've shed. I'm out of the loss phase. I got a good wife, you know what I mean, who know how to keep life organized for me and keep the balance.

But before, yeah, I was definitely known for losing a lot of things. Now that one album, I can't remember his name, that the gentleman bought. Martin Scrooge. Yeah, Martin Scrooge. Did you ever get that album back? Because I know there was a fight to that the gentleman bought. Did y'all ever? Martin Shkreli. Yeah, Martin Shkreli. Did you ever get that album back? Because I know there was a fight to get it back.

Did you ever get it back? Not personally, but it's owned by a group of people called Please The Dow. And it just continues to increase in value and have his own life. I mean, they bought it for like four million. And now there's people talking about like a whole nother thing of what it could be.

So it's kind of one of those things that have a life of its own. Are we ever gonna hear that? Or that's part of the deal that they can never play it publicly? No, actually I'm striving now at this phase since we're at this age and kind of figure out something. I mean the thing was, yeah, it was like not to be, it can't be commercialized for 88

years. So it can't be sold, it can't be on anything like that. It can't be commercialized. Streaming service is nothing. You could give it away. I told Mr. Skareli that in the beginning. I was like, yo, especially just to give you a little backstory on that, I met him before he became the most evilest man in the world.

Remember they had like the most evilest man in the world. So I met him before he became Lex Luthor. You know what I mean? Straight up. And you know, we sat down and he was telling me, you know, I'm a Wu fan, I love 50 Cent, I love hip hop, Ray Kwan, you know, some of his lyrics have made me do business things and he had a whole plan. He was gonna buy this Enigma machine,

I don't know if you know what the Enigma machines are. Those are the decoding machines they used to make in World War II when they had to figure out, in fact it led to the computer. So he wants to, and all the turning papers, who's the guy who basically invented the computer, he was in the woo album. He was like, I'm gonna get all these things and he gonna do something. I was like, okay, what the fuck you gonna do? But he had a plan, like whatever he was gonna do, boom. And then when it went negative on him,

like maybe a few months later, I saw it on TV, I saw him on the news, I said, I was telling my wife, yo, that's the guy that we selling the album to. She said, oh, I wouldn't sell it to him. I said, oh no, it's already like a deal, even though it wasn't, the money didn't exchange hands, it was already a deal and was in contract for him So I was a now I mean I sat down with him. I told him yes, and so

So now we it's at the day that he gets it You know, he got a lot of security You know, they kind of he has some some big dudes with him. Mm-hmm And I just said let me talk to him moment by itself. Come here kid. He's still a kid to me. So I'm like, yo, listen, if I was you, I would just give this away to the world. Like do something good, because people were saying like, you bad right now. He was like, just smiled at me.

And went worse. He went worse. Yeah, so, but I think that that would be a beautiful thing if it was a way to give it or, you know, yeah, I just think it would be nice to share it. You know, if Wu-Tang was starting today, how do you think the industry would treat a group like Wu-Tang? I think we'll still break through. One, we wasn't, you know, remember we came came through also like we would rush in the building too now

So even though I actually think they built the building security because of Wu-Tang. I'm sure Remember before you could walk into a label like get in the elevator Nah before there was no front you could just go right upstairs. Yeah, man now boy You know I'm here. There's two forms know security downstairs and then upstairs Yeah, man, you got all type of but it's like, you know, I mean cell block H. No, but no no, I think Beyond all that right? I think the talent man. Look at the kind of talent you got in the world You can see the talent the proof of it is just like even method man It's gonna go ahead and be a star ghost is gonna go ahead and be a star, Ghost is gonna go ahead and be a star.

You know what I mean? So it's just like you couldn't deny it. And Inspector Deck, who don't get the credit as he should, I think, far as star level. I mean, I won't say far as star level because the fans go crazy when he comes on stage. But I mean, far as within our industry separating all those top names we mentioned.

Inspector Deck got some of the best verses in hip hop history. It's not even close. You know what I mean? And it's just like, okay. So, but that talent is right there. Hey y'all, it's your girl, Cheeky's, and I'm back with a brand new season of your favorite podcast, Cheeky's and Chill. I'll be sharing even more personal stories with you guys. And I know a lot of people are gonna attack me.

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First thing you hear, I swung a cone in the mic like Smoke and Joe Frazier. And you like, and you hear when you hear woo. First thing you hear I smoke on the mic like smoking Joe Frazier. You like and you immediately hear Oh wow who's this guy? And then you think it's over then another guy comes in. Ray got it going on. You're like oh wow who's this guy? So I think the talent will always break through just like when you see other talents in our industry right now that just have something, you know, you know Tyler in the art future, Tyler the creator and his whole crew like you can't deny, when Frank Ocean album came out, he was like, oh, you know It was just on VP

Now on this tour bus, will there be a studio on the bus? I'm sure with your mind There will be a studio on the bus. Yeah. Well, will there be a studio on the bus? I'm sure with your mind there will be a studio on the bus. Yeah, well actually there's a bus, so John Lennon, right? John Lennon, his foundation has a bus called the John Lennon Bus, which they use for a lot of education purposes. And I had to travel with us on the last tour, and I'm gonna have to travel on this tour.

So it's not only a studio, but it's like when you use it, it helps kids in the cities and all that, and they take it around the world and teach music education and continue John Lennon's legacy. Imagine all the people living life as one, right? Yeah, John Lennon, right? That was crazy. I wanna ask you about the Fourth Chamber verse you spit.

Okay. Because it's so relevant today because you talk about government control, economic inequality, media manipulation, all of that. When you wrote that, was that prophecy or was that what you were seeing at the time? A little bit of both, right? As an artist,

it's easy to say right you know, right now. Oh yeah, I have some prophecy. But nah, but as an artist, you post and tap in, right? It's like, to be quite frank, everybody is an antenna. And I mean, the chemical is a biochemical equation of your physical composition is receiving signals. You could receive a thought right now from your man in LA.

You know what I mean? Without this, this is kind of a proof for us who grew up without having this much power in our hand, Thalia, right, and that is still cells all in your body. You know what I mean? But as an artist, you get a signal, you feel something. Some people says, woke them out of their sleep and they wrote songs and yesterday,

I heard Paul McCartney say yesterday, he woke up, it was in his dream and that song is forever, right? So I think that I know that myself as an artist, I would always just get hit with a joke of electricity and I would just write. And so, of course I was studying at that time as well, you know, a tune with mathematics, mathematics don't lie, you know what I mean? And it's just like some of the words just, you know, they just come to you and you got

to be grateful and you let it out and sometimes when you hear yourself back it's not even, you're actually not, it's like that recording sometimes it's not you, you feel me? It's almost like third person. That's why I was like- Out of body experience. That's why I was like Doug Rizzo. Like I mean it's like, it's like, it's a title.

Where, where, where? And even that name, it came like that. It was like, because I was walking around Prince Rock King, Prince Rock King, and something was like, and I might have had a good smoke that day. I mean, it was like, yo, Dove Rizzo, what is that? Right, but if you look at the letters, right, the R, as Rock Kim said said is the 18th letter.

And R is for rule or ruler. So that means you got to start to rule yourself. But a ruler, it's not just the action of, oh, he's the ruler of the country. No, a ruler is a measurement device that you must use to measure everything before you get into your square, right? So now if I measure everything first, before I zig, when it's time for me to zag, which could be going in the wrong direction, I know I could always zig back,

and then that A is for a long. And that's that arm, leg, leg, arm, head. And so in my life, I was like, it was just time for me to be like, I asked to be the RZA. And then my brother just like, after we started moving our unit, I set out the power,

set out to the vine, set out the tariff. Before we start moving our unit, it was like, yo, you the Abbot. You know what I mean? So that's my title within rule, I'm the Abbot. But the universe gave me that title to wrestle. So I wonder what you see now,

like when you see things like ice raids, and then you think about the fourth chamber verse, and you was like, a hit was sent from the president to raid your residence. Or when you see stuff like the coronavirus and stuff like that, you say six million devils just died from the bubonic flu, auto Ebola virus. You're just speaking about this plague that took over.

Like when you see what happened over the years and you think about that verse, what do you? What do you? Yeah, no, I'd be like, yo, at one point it's like, yeah, the reality is the reality, right? Time, time. Words take time to materialize, right? So, and so now we talking prophecy.

Let's just talk about Noah. They say he preached for like 300 years. They're telling people, y'all look, we gonna have to build these arks and get in the water and go. And they're like, man, first of all, keep in mind, he's in the desert, talking about it's gonna rain.

So nobody, they can't believe that. But the time for the world to be materialized is the process of going from a thought to a gas to a liquid to a solid manifestation. Right? So you may say something today that won't manifest until later. And so some of those lyrics are that, right? Even more, I think, if you go into this song, Impossible. Oh my God.

So even there, it's like, you know, my verse starts off with fusion of the five elements, right, which is mental and physical, right? And this is before, you know, the strong feminist movement. I was saying, you know, women are gonna be more celibate. They're not gonna be messing with us like that, you know what I'm saying?

And life becomes irrelevant. But the benevolent king will communicate to you through your dream. Right? So the most high he'll hit you through your dream and give you a mental picture will be formed. And then the laws heard and seen everywhere in your surrounding atmosphere, durian sphere, stratosphere, trapposphere. Can you imagine from one single idea, everything appeared here. Let there be light, that was a single idea. But it took time for all that to grow. Scientists say the Big Bang Theory, they're talking about it took billions of years, we know it's been trillions of years,

for it to grow, right? So, a mental picture's been painted, a law of certainty, and everywhere else, let there be light, and the light is here. So anyway, sometimes you, as an artist, right, you know, you go back and look at science fiction, and we watch Gene Roddenberry, who created Star Trek, and we like, yo, wow, he had the flip phone.

The next thing you know, the flip phone is in physical existence, versus being an artistic existence. You know, that's funny, you said impossible because when B.Dot did these, so I'm gonna read you these top 10 best Wu-Tang songs. Yeah, number 10, Wu-Tang ain't nothing to fuck with. Number nine, Winter Wars. Number eight, Mystery of Chess Boxing.

Number seven, Reunited. Number six, It's Yours. Number five, Protect Your Neck. Number four, Can It Be All So Simple. Number three, Ice Cream. Number two, Triumph. Number four, can it be all so simple? Number three, ice cream. Number two, try number one cream. We started flaming them in the group chat. We just, I mean, it's just not a good list. I guess, I think that we talking about-

That's his list, that's his list. That's his list, but they like- Very commercialized. Oh, let's beat that right there. Oh, that's gonna be good. What up, yo? But we saying Impossible is one of those songs that should be on there.

What do you think of that list, first of all? Well, no the list is up to the top to the list maker Yeah, you know I mean, but but he gets that list from online That's people like that going is online and hit him while he's doing the live things Not just that and also that list might be the top 10 streamers at the end of the day You go and check the top streamers. Those are the commercialized list. Those are the ones that are casual woof fans Those are the ones that they are. Yeah. Yeah, those are ones commercialized lists. Those are the ones that are casual, Wu fans. Those are the ones that they like. Yeah, yeah, those are the ones you better perform. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

You know what I mean? We come here, you better hit us. And y'all, look, the beautiful thing is Winter Wars. Cap came out of nowhere, right? Oh my God. Remember that? I mean, that's some time ago, but once again, talent. Nobody knew this guy.

You know what I mean? We knew him. You know what I mean? I knew that y'all. He was one of the dopest MCs on Staten Island while we was growing up. Me and him always had tapes together. Like we had our tapes, we were circulating before we had tapes, you know what I mean?

That's why he's like, man, what's the wrong name printing in the tablet under vets? He paid our debts for mad years. He was like, we was already having tapes before the other brothers was doing their thing. But he comes out of the now, and Ugar brings him to the crib, and boom, I was happy to see him,

because Capodon, his name at first was original legit, or original, right? So I was like, original, you know what I mean? And he was like, yeah, you know, his slang is ridiculous. I mean, he's like, you know, I donna Jay Burr. I said, what's that? And then Cappadonna. I was like, and it wasn't no Cappadonna Street

on Staten Island yet. Like maybe five years later, there's like a Cappadonna named after, I didn't know what Cappadonna was. What is Cappadonna named after, I didn't know what Capadonna was. What is Capadonna? Well, I think it's like the leader of the priesthood or something like that, you know what I mean? Yeah, because there's a Capadonna in the Catholic,

I think in the Catholic religion, there's something that's Capadonna, yeah. Why Winter War they had no drums, man? There was like a bass line missing from Winter War. When you turn it up, it don't hit. The drums was filtered out with something caused the filter to phase and I left it. That was one of those mistakes that you were talking about, right? The filter phased out and I just loved just like, I just love the verses,

and I love the energy of the vibe of what was happening. But here's a man that comes out, drops his 32 bars, there wasn't a 16, and goes on to become a gold artist from one verse. He's just like, I would give respect to AZ on Nas, right? He had one verse on Nas' joint. Goes on and becomes a- Life's a bitch, yeah.

Yeah, he comes on and becomes a historical hip hop artist. I mean, Qua Mega, he just had a mention. On Nas' album, yeah, one love. One love. Come home and got a record deal. That's the power of hip hop, y'all. What made y'all let Capodonah go so long? Did he write it, or he already have it,

he just went in and did it and you like, yo, keep it? Yeah, he just aired it out. He aired it out. I mean, he aired it out. You can't, you know, back in the day, when you, even now, I guess, when you hearing something and you just hearing it and it's just, you can't stop listening.

It's like when Young Thug and, what do you think it is, Young Thug, Gucci, and I think it's Travis on that song Floyd Mayweather. It's a long song, yeah. I rocked that whole song all the way through. It's just, they just going in. They just going. I'm like, yo, I play that when I'm headed home.

I mean, I still play it. That song is probably what, five, seven years old now? But they aired it out. And it's just like, that's what it is. When you hear something that airs it out, you can't, you don't cut it. Do you remember some of those legendary battles in the studios, some of that people might not know of,

that you're there one day and it might be this artist and this agent's going back and forth and it's disgusting but great. I mean, yeah. I mean, far as rule competition, one thing I love about my brothers is that it could get all the way up to fuck you. I'm not sure, it could get that tense. And then everything's cool.

Who is the worst with that? That always gets personal and it's- I mean, you could guess that. You got? Yeah, the grouch. The grouch. The grouch, come on. Cause he's unfiltered.

Mm-hmm. You don't give a fuck, you know what I mean? And you know, yeah, you know, yeah, you don't care. I feel like Dirty would have been like that too. Oh, Dirty? But see, the thing about, no, no, the thing about Dirty though, right, cause Dirty was like that too. Oh, Dirty? But see, the thing about Dirty though, because Dirty was like that.

I mean, Dirty, yeah. But Dirty, I think with him, it was always like, I guess, he'll yell, yell, yell, get you hyped up and then kiss you on your nose You see what I mean? That's something magical about that, you know what I mean? And so so so for him it's always like you can't help but like that's crazy I love this too, yo, you know what I mean? With Uwe, it nah it wasn't no kiss it's like it's like Nah, it wasn't no kiss, it's like this. Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr I mean, the ninth member of the clan, I think he's always been a balancer.

Right. Yeah. In fact, shout out to Master Killer. He's working on a new album called Balance right now. I think that also I think another MC, once again, he just had those eight bars on chess boxing, you know what I mean? But yet built a career. Who's your favorite MC in Wu-Tang? boxing, you know what I mean? But yet, built a career.

Who is your favorite MC in Wu-Tang? I mean, the Jizza is the head. I argue with people, if you want to argue, and especially at that time, if you go and check the Jizza's lyrics and his catalog of lyrics, I don't think you're gonna find no other MC that have given, that compared to him lyrically. I mean, I put Jizzah as my favorite MC.

And the way that he approached the mic and the things that he's done. You think about labels back then. Where he's using every label, but he's telling you a cohesive, clear story. You know what I mean? With metaphors and wit. And then he goes on to do it again with fame, and then he goes on and do it with Animal Planet.

You know, when he did it with Animal Planet, which was crazy, because he just used all the football teams. And was talking about how to jaguars against the Lions. And I was like, yo, that's like, Juzza is a, he's deep, but he takes him, it might take him like a year to write a verse like that. He won't write it like, like,

Ray will hit you, hit the pen, and be done in an hour, and it should be fly, marvelous fly shit, you know what I mean? The jizzer is like, he's still working on it. And I mean, he got songs he's still been working on for 10 years, because he won't say it. And if he does something quick, he'll do it just because he has to do it, but that's not his best intention as an MC.

His intention as an MC is to make it almost biblical or something, almost like everything is no filler, no words are filling the ideas, you know what I mean? Do we need another Wu-Tang type group or person to break the mold? Like you think about when Protect Your Neck came out, that person to break the mold. You think about when Protect Your Neck came out,

that was so unlike the mold that ever came out, right? It was no real hook, there was just verses. It didn't even start with a verse, it started with chung chung chung, like it was just totally left, but it caught. Do you think we need something like that to break the mold because everything is starting to sound monotonous? Yeah, you always need a fresh jolt of energy.

And I think we're gonna get it, man. It's MCs or artists right now that's in their college dorm or in their mom's crib or even in the projects with better equipment than we had, right, with this laptop or whatever. And they just cooking and they're gonna come and show us. I also have a small prediction for hip hop. Like I think that hip hop will get the,

like before we was, it's been a lot of gratifying of gangsterism, right? I think hip hop will now get artists that they weren't drug dealers, they're not criminals, they've studied this art, they've studied, they lived hip-hop in their form and they're gonna bring a wave that won't feel so threatening. And we had that, and not saying that they wasn't from the streets, right?

Well, think of De La and Tribe, right? Think of Black Sheep and KMD. Most Def, Tyleb. Think of Most Def and Tyleb, right? But I was even going earlier than them because they come after it goes like that and then they kind of Most Def and they'll come after that. Big Daddy King.

Yeah, you know what I mean? I feel like we just had that though. The last 15 years really if you think about it, because when you think about the Kendricks, the Drakes, the J.Coles, the Wale, the Big Sean, the Chance the Rappers, the Rapsodies, like they not on that. Okay, I guess.

And they've been the top guys and the girls for the last how many years? Yeah, I guess you're right, but I think it's something else different though, because they, I still think it's something else different though, because they, I still think it's more like a, how can I put it, that it ain't just that, not from the streets, it's still another spoonful of, that's missing, like another spoonful of like the multi-layer, okay, the fashion of it, right? So out of those you name, who has the fashion?

The fashion? I don't know, I guess Wale maybe? I don't know, Wale would be a, yeah. Maybe. No, no, no. I mean, it's big fashion and influential. I don't think any of those guys. Exactly.

As far as influence, I don't think. Maybe ASAP. ASAP definitely, ASAP definitely. Okay, but then ASAP gives you the streets and the fashion, right? I'm talking about where it'll be The they could they could fight because they they've been training their whole life in some some some class They could play the instruments because they've been playing the instruments They got a college degree because they're not their parents may don't go to college. They love hip hop.

They know they could quote Slick Rick. You know what I mean? They could quote Kendrick. You know what I mean? They could do all of that. So that artist from the hood, but that's not hood. Not in the gang, not gangsta, went to college, got the degree, but study hip hop, love hip hop. And maybe not from the hood. Maybe he's from the suburbs. But ain't that cold, cold with this college? Let me go to that. That's definitely cold.

No, that's cold, right? That is cold. Right, right, cold is that, but then not the fashion. Definitely not the fashion. Right. No, no, no, I'm just saying, I think there's a generation of them that's gonna come through that they could have been as beautiful as an R&B artist,

let's just use that, right? As witty as a hip hop artist, as focused as a, I don't know, let's just call it a fashion artist, right? And yet physically powerful as Ghostface Killer. There's only one like that. Who? Kanye. He's the only one that's not from the hood,

very fashionable, very influenced. He was not spitting gangster. But he don't got the physical, like, he not intimidating. I get what you're saying. But he is a pioneer of that particular. He is the pioneer of that, yeah. Yeah. You gotta like Kendrick of that, yeah. Yeah. You gotta like Kendrick though.

Who me? Of course. Listen, one of Kendrick's first samples on his early songs was he sampled me and I cleared it for free. You know what I mean? I said, nah, keep that. You know what I mean?

Yeah. And that's before he was about to go to the top of the world. I just heard it. I said,itting, he's the dope MC. Yeah, I gave Kendrick credit 10 years ago. I mean, and he's only gotten better. And Rundle Jewels is the perfect fit. But why did y'all choose Rundle Jewels? Was it something that y'all had him on the road before?

Y'all knew Killer Mike, why was Rundle Jewels? We did a show with them. We did two shows with them before. And this may sound like, they're like, to me, running the Jewels are like Rage Against the Machine. Think about that for a moment. They are like, you know, their lyrics and their, they're having fun, of course, but they're also politically conscious. Their fans are like die hard, like die hard woo fans.

Their energy. We did two shows with them. It was like, and we was like, oh shit. You know what I mean? It's like I didn't know how big Razor was the machine was. Because I'm in my bubble. But when we was in Europe, they was like, you should go see these guys.

And I went and saw them, I was like, oh shit. That's the energy that I love. Yeah, let's put those energies together. It was the same thing with One of the Jewels. They had 20,000 going crazy, you know what I mean? I was like, oh shit. Even though I know Killer Mike for years, you know, from his first gold album.

You know, of course everybody loved Michael, but. Jizza took Mike on tour back in the day. Yeah, yeah, no, Mike said that Jizza took him on tour back in the day. Yeah, no, Mike said that Jizza. Took him on tour and gave him a guy body game. Yeah, he said Jizza pioneered him and Jizza's one of those dudes that really, you know, sparked his brain. But yeah, this is a nice, like I said,

this is a lyrical combination right here. And yeah, and we talked about it for almost a year and then bong here, we're living it. What's the most underrated Wu-Tang song that you think deserves more love and that when y'all perform on tour, everybody just goes crazy? Well, depending where you at, right?

But I know one Wu-Tang song that definitely seemed like, I don't think New Yorkers ever even heard it. Gravel Pit. Of course, that was with the video, y'all dressed like the Flintstones and all that. Yeah, exactly. All the fur coats and all that. But man, overseas, you can play it twice in a concert. They love it. Yeah. But in New York, they don't play that. Somebody get mad, that come on, like ghosts or somebody start frowning at you,

like, yo, God, who the fuck do that? Yo, Mav! Mav, I ain't doing my verse. What was it, the video? You know what? I think it was a, I think I was reaching. I was like, I attempted to make a song in a way that was like poppy.

Commercial. For radio. Yeah, I attempted, yeah. But y'all never needed that. I know, but I did, you know, here's a little backstory of that song, if I could share real quick. No, that song was meant for Aaliyah. For Aaliyah?

Yeah, we was in the studio, we talked about it, and I said, I have this whole Flintstone concept, I'm gonna have you dressed up like, like, Betty, Yeah, like Pebbles, Pebbles, Pebbles. But, you know, because Leah was, you know,

such in great shape and all that, and I just had this whole plan, and she was like, yeah, we agreed. And it just, things went, yeah. So she was gonna sing over that beat and everything? Or it was just a, wow. Yeah, and I imagine her on it. Yeah, cause it was more dancey and pop,

I get what you're saying, okay. Was there any other artist that you guys worked with that just never came to fruition? Like an ex-or? Not, I think not Wu-Tang Clan itself, but I think, you know, all the members, them blessed with everybody. But on the album called The, on the W was the album where it's the only Wu-Tang album that was like, yo, let's let our brothers in, some peers in. So Buster's on it, right? Nas is on it, Snoop is on it.

Red Man is on it, you know what I mean? And those is, you know, woo cousins. Yeah, those are family members. Yeah, yeah. My last question, man. You talked about the importance of discipline and self mastery throughout your entire career. Why is that so important for people to have

in the industry now? Because I feel like it's a lack of it. Yeah, definitely. If you don't know the ledge, like knowledge of self, know the ledge, you're gonna fall off the edge. And it's really as simple as that. You know, your health is your wealth,

all the things, you know. Being young is fun. So when they come in the industry, they're young, it's exciting. You know what I mean? The blue pill, red pill, yellow pill, you know what I mean? And you know, and you gotta live. But, you know, since everything is more potent,

you know what I mean? And everything is like, before what could take 10 years to take you out, could take you out now in one year. Less than that in times. Yeah, just like the information. Before, it took forever to get the information out, you could just press the button.

It's the same thing with negativity. And so I would tell, I would just shout out all my young artists out there, or even mature artists, definitely take time to build yourself, build your mind. Don't get too caught up in it. You know what I mean? Look at this as your work, as your love, but keep yourself and your family first.

Word. Well we thank you, appreciate you for joining us. The tickets are on sale right now for the Roo'Tain tour. Final Chamber Tour with Run The Jewels. Get your tickets and we appreciate you RZA. Appreciate you too brother. Peace and blessings.

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