The Breakfast Club - INTERVIEW: Shakur Stevenson Talks Upcoming Boxing Match With Teofimo Lopez, Legacy, Jake Paul, Tank Davis +More

Episode Date: December 12, 2025

Today on The Breakfast Club, Shakur Stevenson Talks Upcoming Boxing Match With Teofimo Lopez, Legacy, Jake Paul, Tank Davis. Listen For More!YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@BreakfastClubPower1051FMS...ee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:02:45 It's DJ NV. Just hilarious. Shalameen the guy. We are the breakfast club. Long LaRose is here. And so is our guy, Ack. And we got a special guest in the building. Chaucor Stevenson.
Starting point is 00:02:55 Welcome, brother. What out? What up? What up. How you feeling? I'm great. Fight the 31st? Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:03:00 The 31st of January, Madison Square Garden. Yep, yep, yep. We're ready, bro. Let's jump right into us. So how are you feeling fighting Tio Fima? What do you think is going to be? Honestly, this is a moment I've been kind of waiting for my whole career. You're waiting on that big name.
Starting point is 00:03:13 You finally got one. Yeah, it's like I've been kind of like pushing. Since I started, I want to fight the best fighters. So now in this situation, I kind of reached out and I kind of set it up to where we kind of made this. happened and Tio accepted the challenge so I respect him for it now we seen Tio earlier and I was watching that he didn't seem like regular Tio you yeah I don't like that Tia yeah I don't like that but you wanted to call you a monkey or something shit I don't want to call him in this shit
Starting point is 00:03:44 I just know he's usually more like right now he kind of like that's why I asked me does he still love well he said he going to turn up at the press conference he did see that Nah, yeah, you got to, we got to see. But I don't like that version. I would rather see the version that kind of, I've been planning to fight for years. Yeah, but people would be complaining about that version. Like, he's saying, wow, shit, it's too wild.
Starting point is 00:04:08 It's too crazy. So I guess people force them to be this new version. Yeah, but people shouldn't dictate who you are. Like, if you're a real man, bro, at the end of the day, bro, just be yourself. And whether they like you or love you, ain't nothing going to change, but as long as the people around you love you. He tried to throw a shot at you about that same topic. saying that Shakur lets the people get to him,
Starting point is 00:04:29 and that's why he forced Zapater the way he did. Do you agree with that to some degree? Hell no, I think that, um, Zepeda got a style to where, if Tio fought Zepeda. You'll have to fight him like that, too. He probably would have to fight him the same way. I've never seen him in front of that kind of style throughout his whole career. Now, he fought some good fighters, but, um, honestly, his best opponent was Lemmichenko,
Starting point is 00:04:52 and I felt like, I'm not going to say, I'm not going to take away credit from him. But I feel as though, Lemachango only throw no punches for six rounds. So it's like, I can't really tell, like, how good you is. I don't know what happened with Limachenko. But do you think something he did maybe had Loma hesitant? I don't know. I wasn't in there to know whether, like, what happened. But I just know for a fact that Loma started the fight in the second half.
Starting point is 00:05:16 And when he did, I thought he took over the second half of the fight. So it's hard to say to give him that much credit for being Lema. So you think Loma won that fight? No, I thought T.O. won a fight. Okay. I want to say he won the first seven rounds. Right. Okay. And maybe he won the 12.
Starting point is 00:05:34 He definitely won the 12. Tio said that your defense isn't as elite as people think it is. It's impeccable, he said. I disagree with him, but he said he don't think it's as impeccable as people think it is. I mean, he ain't been in there with me to know whether how good it is, a good, um, sparring ain't going to tell. We did three rounds. That shit ain't. He couldn't barely hit me then.
Starting point is 00:05:56 I'm not taking nothing from the sparring but he don't know how good I am like you don't know how good my defense is until come January 31st he pretty much said
Starting point is 00:06:06 your style of box and he said he's beat hundreds of fighters with your style of box 200 southpaws 200 south paws he said it's light work man that's the thing
Starting point is 00:06:16 where he got to like pay attention too because it's like yeah you did good with some south paws but then there are south paws you did bad with so it's not just
Starting point is 00:06:24 okay I beat Limonchenco and Josh Taylor But then you fought Jermaine Ortiz and Sandra Martin And they are two Southpaws Who both gave you trouble So That's a good point It gave them confidence to beat them
Starting point is 00:06:38 Bigger guys that got the bigger names But his confidence went down When he fought them other guys So truthfully All that South Pard shit That shit sound good But what you're going to do And get in front of me
Starting point is 00:06:49 I'm not none of them guys He did say that on paper You're his toughest test Do you feel the same way? Yeah We both know what we're dealing with I know he the truth He know I'm the truth
Starting point is 00:07:00 When I sat there I watched him in Times Square He was doing a lot of like Roy Jones kind of like shit He put his hands down Do the little flashy stuff So I know the truth I think he's the guy
Starting point is 00:07:12 And I appreciate him Because he's the guy He was going to take me to that next level Right I know y'all headed into this presser Press conference He said also too about getting in your head Like that's his thing
Starting point is 00:07:21 Because he feels like you let people get in your head How do you turn like that that you're not going to shake the confidence you have right now when you're all face to face and then you got some things that are going to come before the fight. I mean, clearly he's not that smart though because if he was smart, he would have never said it. He would have just did it.
Starting point is 00:07:38 So being that he's saying that, now you're telling me, it's like, okay, now I've got to be on the lookout for it. Okay, cool. I'll just keep my head together. If he was smart, he would have just did it. So truthfully, that shit ain't going to bother me. I don't know that come fight night, As long as I come at my best
Starting point is 00:07:55 And he come at his best We're going to get the best versions of ourselves And whoever best is going to win that night Are you surprised he agreed to the fight? Not really, not really Honestly, he won in those fighters Who I think that really believe in themselves You could tell deep down
Starting point is 00:08:14 He's been waiting for opportunities Just as much as me So I think in this instinct The only thing that I would say We should be thanking each other for the fact that we both said yes and we both hungry and want this moment so I'm not I ain't surprised
Starting point is 00:08:28 You know when Floyd Ford Packie out They had to run into each other And they had to actually talk about it amongst themselves Did you and Tio actually have a real conversation Before everybody else get involved like yo let's fight bro We did we did we actually got on the phone T O'Connor was trying to let me know that He was getting other options
Starting point is 00:08:47 And he basically told me that the option that he wanted to fight was me And I'm like okay that's the option that I want to fight too. So I had the options on the table, too. So both you had different options. Yeah, but once we got on the phone, we kind of locked it in, and we stuck with what we said, and I appreciate him for keeping his word.
Starting point is 00:09:03 Can you tell me what options were those that you turned down? What fighters you had on? I ain't turned shit down. No, not like that, but who you picked Tio over? Lamar Roots. Okay, so that was on paper. I wanted to fight Lamont. Me and Lamont was the fight to really make happen,
Starting point is 00:09:17 but the Tio fight was bigger. It was a bigger, better opportunity, so I went and took the Tio fight over the Lamar fight. What do you think about Roach's last fight? I thought he won. I thought he may have should have let off the gas in them last two rounds. But I thought when you see Pit Bull get on the back foot and start boxing and thinking that he's winning a boxing match, I think that right there should let it be known that Lamont Roaches winning this fight.
Starting point is 00:09:46 So when you like so you pick Tio over Lamont, so I don't know how it works. Like, you can't fight Lamont now? Yeah, I can fight him after I beat Tio. But like I said, it's so many options on the table now to where it's like, even with this Tio fight, it's going to open doors for other fights to happen. So it's hard to even say if Lamont will be next. I would love for Lamont to be next. I think that that's a big fight.
Starting point is 00:10:10 That's something that me and him talked about. And I'm actually real cool with Lamont. So I would love for that fight to happen. But we'll see when the opportunity presents yourself. Yeah, he talked about on this show about. wanting to fight you but so are you done at 135 because this fight is at 140 are you going back down you're going to back down probably going to go up um yo i'm so good at this shit so where it's like i could fight at 35 40 i may give a little try at 47 just a little try because i'm little right
Starting point is 00:10:38 so i'm gonna give it my shot but like truthfully i'm not a 47 pounder but i'm so good to where you could deal with that i could carry out in these weight classes so yeah but how do you feel at won like 40 i mean obviously you're not that fight there yet but is there like an ease in your mind where i could eat a little bit more i don't have to work that hard home right there no no it's it's the same thing bro because it's like at 35 i could eat whatever like i was i was barely cutting weight so now it's like i'm barely barely going to have to cut weight so truthfully it's like shit just feel good and enjoy this feeling because at 30 and 26 that shit was hard. What is beating
Starting point is 00:11:19 Tiofimo do for your legacy beyond belts and rankings and all that? I think it would take me to a whole other level. I think on that pound for pound list, like, you got to put me in that top five. Like, I got to be one of them guys in the top five that I beat Tio. Tio's one of them guys.
Starting point is 00:11:36 I felt like Tio should have been undisputed. He deserved to be undisputed when all that stuff happened with Limachenko and he won that fight. They didn't give him the undisputed thing, he should have been but just to be the guy that's so accomplished like this guy had four belts and then went up to 140 and then went the belt there then had the ring magazine belt at 140
Starting point is 00:11:59 so um this this guy's accomplished he's an accomplished fighter and one of the best fighters that's going to be in my resume i don't understand all that sanctioned shit man because to me i'm just watching the fights if you win you win like when i saw bud talking about that the other week i'm like i didn't know people weren't recognizing him as the undisputed people were it should Just one belt that technically, like Tio was saying, I'm not sure if you saw that part where he shouldn't, Tio said, Bud, shouldn't be undisputed technically because he didn't pay that fee, so on paper, even though the world knows his. Now, Tio sounds like he hated.
Starting point is 00:12:31 That sounds like some hating. Well, he's referring back to what happened with him with Loma. He's like, same thing happened to me. People weren't considered me undisputed on paper. Yeah, but at the end of the day, it did happen to you and it's fucked up. It's not a good situation. And he wanted to be called an disputed. So while we say the same thing about.
Starting point is 00:12:48 At the end of the day, it's, boy, so now I'm like, bro, just give him his credit, bro. There ain't nobody who I'm not calling him undisputed. We know he was undisputed. So it was like, there ain't need nothing to talk about. Do you view this fight as, like, personal, strategic, or legacy-driven? I think it's all three. It's all three. Now, I don't try to take things personal, but it's personal for me.
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Starting point is 00:18:18 or wherever you get your podcast. So now it's just like the legacy I know going to come with it. Strategy is going to be on point to where I make sure I've got to follow the game plan and come fight night. But personally, for me and my kid, for me and my family, like, I want to just, I want to eat forever. Is this the biggest pay that you've gotten so far? For sure, no question. I got to ask you about Jake Paul
Starting point is 00:18:42 because you spent some time in camp with him sparring with him, then you and Keishon did as well. You know what I'm saying? No, boy, he was there with you all, right? Yeah, for sure. So most people that haven't spent time around Jake have an issue with him, fighting fighters, I'm saying, but once they spend some time
Starting point is 00:18:58 around, they have a different perspective of who he is. Is that your experience with Jake? I've been around before. Before that, okay, so you know. I kind of already had a view of like he's really a cool dude right people would talk about him but if somebody can come to a sport to wear like women's boxing let's speak for example with them they don't get no attention they don't get no love and they deserve it right and then jake paul shons a light that's bright on them female fighters and now they're making millions of dollars it's like at the end of the day you
Starting point is 00:19:30 got to respect him for moving into a lane and and helping out somewhere where it was weak Yeah, and you got to respect him as a person, too. I think Jay Paul is a real. And as a fighter, though, too. I mean, what about that? I mean, I respect him as a fighter because he's working hard to get to where he's at, so. Has he gotten better, though? Like, hell yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure.
Starting point is 00:19:52 Like, from where he started to now, he's way better. How did he feel, did he have power? Did he touch you in the ring? Like, how did that feel like? What was that like? I remember him, like, catching me, like, catching my glove. Right. And when he caught my glove, I'm like, oh, he could really.
Starting point is 00:20:06 Yeah, he's like 200-something pounds, so you're going to feel it, but, um... That shit ain't going to do nothing to AJ. AJ 26. That's what I'm one... I can he tell you all. So he ain't got a shot against AJ. He ain't going to kill him, in other words. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:20:24 I don't know. We'll see, y'all. I'm a room for both fighters. I'm a fan of Jake Paul, so I can't go against that dude. Like, it's hard for me. Listen, I feel you 100%. I respect what he's done for women's boxing. I've gone to some of the MVP fights for women's boxing,
Starting point is 00:20:39 but he's going to get killed. But I still respect. And AJ ain't holding back. Come on. But I respect his heart getting in the ring with AJ. I do think when it comes down to it, where AJ been boxing for so long, Olympic gold medalists,
Starting point is 00:20:52 he should go in there and just wipe him. But we'll see. We'll see him come fight night. Is tank still a, I know that was like a fight for you, but there's been so much him not fighting Jake Paul at this point and just, you know, Like, is that even something you even, like, care about at this point with what you're about to do with Lopez? Yeah, I'm honestly done with that.
Starting point is 00:21:11 I ain't really got too much to say on that because it's like, it's a lose, lose situation. Like, it's a lot of people that just hate me to hate me, but they don't really understand the situation of the facts. So it's like when you speak on this, like you shine a light to the situation. So I ain't really talking about it, but I'm locked in. It's me and Teal. That's a big fight. That's legacy making fight. And I just can't wait to show who I am.
Starting point is 00:21:35 And those top names at 35 was, it was obviously Tank, Devin, Tio. You're about to fight one of them, right? Yeah. This fight that we want to be is about to happen. So is Devin on your list next so you could keep going on that list? I would love to fight Devin. I would love to fight Devin. The only thing is because a lot of people kind of compare
Starting point is 00:21:56 me saying that I have a fight kind of been with Devin Haney. And I understand it. But the thing that I said, even with Kahnabin, I would want the same weight clause as he put on U-Bank. Yeah, yeah. And that's what I want come fight night with Kahneman now. When I go to 47 with Devin, is he's going to allow the same weight clause? Like, it becomes a business.
Starting point is 00:22:21 Right. Like, how are we going to do this fight? And if he do shit, let's lock in game. So Kahn of Ben is still on the list. I told you that's the fight that I think should be next, but I'm not trying to look past Tiel. Right, no doubt. Tio is really the main thing that's on my mom,
Starting point is 00:22:35 but I'm just answering the questions for y'all. What mental adjustments are you making specifically for Tio? I think we both got a lot of mental adjustments to make because both of us mentally is like we always trying to please the fans and put on shows for the fans. I think we got to make sure that we locking in on our game plans. The person with the best game plan is going to, come out on top what do you feel about all the uh the racism thing that's been coming around
Starting point is 00:23:07 around them in the last couple of months i don't believe it i don't believe it like i think that tio's not racist i think that he's clout chasing like that's what i really seen from it like it's a guy who's been look past his whole career and he's doing anything to get some type of spotlight on him and that's what i kind of seen from the situation because i've known tio for years and years he ain't never really been no racist person so not so you go that's what he just said though he said like I'm just trying to cause chaos because trying to sell his fight he wanted to be in the spotlight like people look past him like um even in this situation the fight was not going to happen like this was a fight that wasn't going to happen until I'm like yo boom I'm looking through the playing field
Starting point is 00:23:52 right before my last fight I'm like Tio and I kind of told the higher powers and the people in a position that me and Tio's a fight that's the biggest fight they really ain't want Tio Tio ain't no like truthfully like but you know um like I said I appreciate him for saying yes and he appreciate me for making happen
Starting point is 00:24:12 he said he didn't send the watermelons and bananas to Kishan's locker room you believe that you believe that? Hell no I don't think he did that shit for real? No I don't think he did that shit oh wow wow wow wow I think that he chose the internet during his fight week where it's like um with the banana shit
Starting point is 00:24:27 but I don't think he sent it to his room, no. Who do you think did it? Listen, some people were saying, some people saying that top, you heard the room was about top rank, did it themselves to create some motion? No, I know.
Starting point is 00:24:44 It is crazy, but he said that, Tio said that on the show, like, I think they did it. Oh, you said you know. No, I don't know. No, I don't know. No, I don't know. But I told him who I think it is. Like, you could, make your own speculation so yeah so press conference today you got a banana kishan you're jumping out
Starting point is 00:25:03 you're jumping on them huh soon as you see you're told me to chill so i got a chill they are right you've had critics say your style is too safe other people call you a defensive genius does this fight give you the chance to silence people who question you period and your offensive output no because at the end of the day they still gonna say something like when somebody really got hatred for somebody and they hate you even if you watched floyd entire career people hated on him the entire time but as soon as he retired
Starting point is 00:25:32 it's like oh he was the greatest but like during his career it's like oh he's boring he runs he blah blah blah but if you actually watch the fights he wasn't running he wasn't moving all around the ring he just showed skills he had defense
Starting point is 00:25:47 he didn't get hit you didn't take unnecessary punishment so with me I think it's kind of similar like I mean worry about what they say they're going to say something today and then they're going to say something tomorrow They might say something during the fight. I saw that with Haney.
Starting point is 00:26:00 Devin Haney's last fight. Second round, of course, he looked amazing, right? At 147, drop dude. But then it was like, but the rest of the fight he was born. Like, y'all watched it in real time. Like, literally in real time, it's like, oh, boring Devin's back. I'm like, God damn, he looks at me. You know what's boring to people, though?
Starting point is 00:26:16 It's boring when you watch it, and it's so easy. Like, when Devin's just making it easy, it ain't really like, it's nothing coming back to where it's danger. Now, if he got hit with a big. big shot, they'll be, oh, this is the best Devon fight I ever seen in my life. Were you impressed with Devin's performance? Yeah, I thought Devin looked good. I thought
Starting point is 00:26:34 early on he did what he was supposed to do. I think later on he could have stepped on the gas a little bit more, but, like, that's everybody, you know? In these fights, you just got to make sure you succeed at the end of the day, and I think that's what he was focused on. Look, Eddie Hearn, obviously, you work with him and you work with him. He threw some shots at Devin after the fight saying that, yeah, he don't want to engage.
Starting point is 00:26:57 Eddie Hearn promoted Devin Haney. How do you feel about him now throwing a shot at him like that? I think it's a business. So at the end of the day, during business, it's a lot of things that's going to be said when somebody is not working for you. So I think in that aspect, Devin and Eddie's not working together.
Starting point is 00:27:16 So if they were together, he wouldn't have said that. He probably would have said it. He would have said a master class. Now, but you know, it's crazy, though. Out of all the promoters, I've been telling you all this, not stand by days. I think Eddie is actually a good.
Starting point is 00:27:27 promoter. He is a good person too. For sure. You feel more pressure to win or to Dominic? Dominate. I got to go in there and like, y'all got to know I'm winning this fight. I don't like being in them fights to where it's like you don't know who's winning. Like
Starting point is 00:27:43 when you watch Lamont and Pitbull, it's some casuals that don't know who's winning the fight. But if you really paying attention, you could tell like Lamont is this your first time at the Big Garden fighting? No, I fought here under butt on the cards. Oh yeah, on a bar. Back in the day, yeah.
Starting point is 00:27:59 So you and Brian Garcia switching gears. I saw y'all's exchange. You really hate him in real life. No, no. I'll beat you up all of my life. No, it was more so like you see somebody and like they say something slick and you got to still let them know like who you is. Like they still got to know like, bro, I ain't, this ain't nothing new, bro. Like I'm still that same person I've been.
Starting point is 00:28:24 So it's like us just reunited. same in this just reunited I thought he was kind of like trying to give you a little bit of like saying you gave me credit yeah he gave you the credit I gave him credit too yeah okay
Starting point is 00:28:35 I give him credit he's a he's a good fighter I think that I'm with Ryan when he's focused he's a really good fighter but if it's like he got all these outside the ring things going on you're going to get a bad version of him but with me
Starting point is 00:28:49 if he's talking about getting the ring with me he better be focused I gotta ask you about budd real quick there rumors about him fighting Canello again a rematch I don't know how true is that. I know that's your bro, big bro. What do you think Bud should do?
Starting point is 00:29:04 Like if it was up to you because he's done everything in the sport, right? Should he hang it up or should retire? Retire. If I'm Bud Crawford, I'm the greatest. What am I doing? I already proved y'all everything. Like, there's nothing else to prove y'all no more. I beat all the guys as y'all said, I couldn't meet.
Starting point is 00:29:21 But if there's another 70, 100 millionaires home to turn out. Yeah, that's cool. but like from like if I was home it's like I did everything what am I doing we go fight Canello again he can't beat me the only thing that's going to happen I may stop him this time like if I'm him right right once he once he hangs it up is how long before Shakur is that number one pound-of-pound fight in the world give me like two years two years I think we're on the verge I think everything is happening the way it's supposed to happen so just keep toning there who's your favorite fighter outside of bud right now right now right now
Starting point is 00:29:56 now in boxing? Bavall. Bavall. I think Bavall is like one of the hardest fighters to beat. Because he's so basic and he mastered the fundamentals of boxing. He don't just got, he keep his hands up, he keep his one-two going, he got great feetwork. So he don't just stand right there in front of guys all night.
Starting point is 00:30:17 He's moving all around. And I think he's, to me, besides myself, I think he's the best boxer. You know, people think the fight with T.O. is either going to be you delivering a master class. Or a knockout by T.O. Yeah, are you getting into some type of brawl with Tio and end up getting knocked out, right? What are the fans getting wrong about the matchup?
Starting point is 00:30:35 I think the fans is getting wrong about the matchup is where I'm not sleeping on that I know about Tio. Tio's a good boxer. He's boxer first. So we can say, oh, he's just going to knock you out. He's just going to... That's not whom. He's boxing first.
Starting point is 00:30:49 He's going to want to establish distance and range on the outside and try to beat me up on the outside so I think that's the main thing and also the biggest thing that everybody don't realize with me I can punch. Everybody said, oh, he can't punch and then boom, crack somebody
Starting point is 00:31:05 and then they laying down or something may happen to where they hurt or something like that, so I think that's two big things where they don't understand and know. Timothy Bradley said he feel like you're going to hurt. He said he feels like you can hurt Teal. I can. I can't. He said you got the style to hurt him. I can't. I can catch him with something he don't see.
Starting point is 00:31:23 But he just better be paying attention all night I better get up out of here Well quick though I know you train I got a flight That's what I said daddy I got a flight Are you going to
Starting point is 00:31:32 Jake Paul versus Anthony Joshua You're going to the fight When is it He's after 10 days Eight days Oh no I ain't going I'm in Canada You got to
Starting point is 00:31:42 I'm locked You're locked in I'm locked this is the biggest fight In my career I got to be At a different level than I've been in a past Yeah you got to elevate
Starting point is 00:31:51 Yeah I'm excited about this one We appreciate you for joining us The 31st is the fight January. We wish you the best, brother. Appreciate y'all too. Yes, sir. All right.
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