The Breakfast Club - INTERVIEW: Shakur Stevenson Talks Upcoming Boxing Match With Teofimo Lopez, Legacy, Jake Paul, Tank Davis +More
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Morning, everybody.
It's DJ NV.
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Shalameen the guy.
We are the breakfast club.
Long LaRose is here.
And so is our guy, Ack.
And we got a special guest in the building.
Chaucor Stevenson.
Welcome, brother.
What out?
What up?
What up.
How you feeling?
I'm great.
Fight the 31st?
Yeah, yeah.
The 31st of January, Madison Square Garden.
Yep, yep, yep.
We're ready, bro.
Let's jump right into us.
So how are you feeling fighting Tio Fima?
What do you think is going to be?
Honestly, this is a moment I've been kind of waiting for my whole career.
You're waiting on that big name.
You finally got one.
Yeah, it's like I've been kind of like pushing.
Since I started, I want to fight the best fighters.
So now in this situation, I kind of reached out and I kind of set it up to where we kind of made this.
happened and Tio accepted the challenge so I respect him for it
now we seen Tio earlier and I was watching that
he didn't seem like regular Tio you yeah I don't like that Tia yeah I don't like that
but you wanted to call you a monkey or something shit I don't want to call him in this shit
I just know he's usually more like right now he kind of like that's why I
asked me does he still love well he said he going to turn up at the press conference
he did see that
Nah, yeah, you got to, we got to see.
But I don't like that version.
I would rather see the version that kind of, I've been planning to fight for years.
Yeah, but people would be complaining about that version.
Like, he's saying, wow, shit, it's too wild.
It's too crazy.
So I guess people force them to be this new version.
Yeah, but people shouldn't dictate who you are.
Like, if you're a real man, bro, at the end of the day, bro, just be yourself.
And whether they like you or love you,
ain't nothing going to change, but as long as the people around you love you.
He tried to throw a shot at you about that same topic.
saying that Shakur lets the people get to him,
and that's why he forced Zapater the way he did.
Do you agree with that to some degree?
Hell no, I think that, um, Zepeda got a style to where,
if Tio fought Zepeda.
You'll have to fight him like that, too.
He probably would have to fight him the same way.
I've never seen him in front of that kind of style throughout his whole career.
Now, he fought some good fighters, but, um, honestly, his best opponent was Lemmichenko,
and I felt like, I'm not going to say, I'm not going to take away credit from him.
But I feel as though, Lemachango only throw no punches for six rounds.
So it's like, I can't really tell, like, how good you is.
I don't know what happened with Limachenko.
But do you think something he did maybe had Loma hesitant?
I don't know.
I wasn't in there to know whether, like, what happened.
But I just know for a fact that Loma started the fight in the second half.
And when he did, I thought he took over the second half of the fight.
So it's hard to say to give him that much credit for being Lema.
So you think Loma won that fight?
No, I thought T.O. won a fight.
Okay.
I want to say he won the first seven rounds.
Right. Okay.
And maybe he won the 12.
He definitely won the 12.
Tio said that your defense isn't as elite as people think it is.
It's impeccable, he said.
I disagree with him, but he said he don't think it's as impeccable as people think it is.
I mean, he ain't been in there with me to know whether how good it is, a good, um, sparring ain't going to tell.
We did three rounds.
That shit ain't.
He couldn't barely hit me then.
I'm not taking
nothing from the sparring
but he don't know
how good I am
like you don't know
how good my defense is
until come January 31st
he pretty much said
your style of box
and he said he's
beat hundreds of fighters
with your style of box
200 southpaws
200 south paws
he said it's light work
man that's the thing
where he got to like
pay attention too
because it's like
yeah you did good
with some south paws
but then there are
south paws you did bad with
so it's not just
okay
I beat Limonchenco and Josh Taylor
But then you fought Jermaine Ortiz and Sandra Martin
And they are two Southpaws
Who both gave you trouble
So
That's a good point
It gave them confidence to beat them
Bigger guys that got the bigger names
But his confidence went down
When he fought them other guys
So truthfully
All that South Pard shit
That shit sound good
But what you're going to do
And get in front of me
I'm not none of them guys
He did say that on paper
You're his toughest test
Do you feel the same way?
Yeah
We both know what we're dealing with
I know he the truth
He know I'm the truth
When I sat there
I watched him in Times Square
He was doing a lot of like
Roy Jones kind of like shit
He put his hands down
Do the little flashy stuff
So I know the truth
I think he's the guy
And I appreciate him
Because he's the guy
He was going to take me to that next level
Right
I know y'all headed into this presser
Press conference
He said also too about getting in your head
Like that's his thing
Because he feels like you let people get in your head
How do you turn like that
that you're not going to shake the confidence you have right now
when you're all face to face
and then you got some things that are going to come before the fight.
I mean, clearly he's not that smart though
because if he was smart, he would have never said it.
He would have just did it.
So being that he's saying that, now you're telling me,
it's like, okay, now I've got to be on the lookout for it.
Okay, cool.
I'll just keep my head together.
If he was smart, he would have just did it.
So truthfully, that shit ain't going to bother me.
I don't know that come fight night,
As long as I come at my best
And he come at his best
We're going to get the best versions of ourselves
And whoever best is going to win that night
Are you surprised he agreed to the fight?
Not really, not really
Honestly, he won in those fighters
Who I think that really believe in themselves
You could tell deep down
He's been waiting for opportunities
Just as much as me
So I think in this instinct
The only thing that I would say
We should be thanking each other for
the fact that we both said yes
and we both hungry and want this moment
so I'm not I ain't surprised
You know when Floyd Ford Packie out
They had to run into each other
And they had to actually talk about it amongst themselves
Did you and Tio actually have a real conversation
Before everybody else get involved like yo let's fight bro
We did we did we actually got on the phone
T O'Connor was trying to let me know that
He was getting other options
And he basically told me that the option that he wanted to fight was me
And I'm like okay that's the option
that I want to fight too.
So I had the options on the table, too.
So both you had different options.
Yeah, but once we got on the phone, we kind of locked it in,
and we stuck with what we said,
and I appreciate him for keeping his word.
Can you tell me what options were those that you turned down?
What fighters you had on?
I ain't turned shit down.
No, not like that, but who you picked Tio over?
Lamar Roots.
Okay, so that was on paper.
I wanted to fight Lamont.
Me and Lamont was the fight to really make happen,
but the Tio fight was bigger.
It was a bigger, better opportunity,
so I went and took the Tio fight over the Lamar fight.
What do you think about Roach's last fight?
I thought he won.
I thought he may have should have let off the gas in them last two rounds.
But I thought when you see Pit Bull get on the back foot and start boxing and thinking
that he's winning a boxing match, I think that right there should let it be known that Lamont Roaches winning this fight.
So when you like so you pick Tio over Lamont, so I don't know how it works.
Like, you can't fight Lamont now?
Yeah, I can fight him after I beat Tio.
But like I said, it's so many options on the table now to where it's like, even with this Tio fight,
it's going to open doors for other fights to happen.
So it's hard to even say if Lamont will be next.
I would love for Lamont to be next.
I think that that's a big fight.
That's something that me and him talked about.
And I'm actually real cool with Lamont.
So I would love for that fight to happen.
But we'll see when the opportunity presents yourself.
Yeah, he talked about on this show about.
wanting to fight you but so are you done at 135 because this fight is at 140 are you going back down
you're going to back down probably going to go up um yo i'm so good at this shit so where it's like
i could fight at 35 40 i may give a little try at 47 just a little try because i'm little right
so i'm gonna give it my shot but like truthfully i'm not a 47 pounder but i'm so good to where
you could deal with that i could carry out in these weight classes so yeah but how do you feel at
won like 40 i mean obviously you're not that fight there yet but is there like an ease in your
mind where i could eat a little bit more i don't have to work that hard home right there
no no it's it's the same thing bro because it's like at 35 i could eat whatever like i was
i was barely cutting weight so now it's like i'm barely barely going to have to cut weight so
truthfully it's like shit just feel good and enjoy this feeling because at 30 and 26 that shit was
hard. What is beating
Tiofimo do for your legacy
beyond belts and rankings and all that?
I think it would take me to
a whole other level. I think on that pound for pound
list, like, you
got to put me in that top five. Like, I got
to be one of them guys in the top five that I beat
Tio. Tio's one of them guys.
I felt like Tio
should have been undisputed. He deserved
to be undisputed when
all that stuff happened with
Limachenko and he won that fight.
They didn't give him the undisputed thing,
he should have been but just to be the guy that's so accomplished like this guy had four belts
and then went up to 140 and then went the belt there then had the ring magazine belt at 140
so um this this guy's accomplished he's an accomplished fighter and one of the best fighters that's
going to be in my resume i don't understand all that sanctioned shit man because to me i'm just
watching the fights if you win you win like when i saw bud talking about that the other week i'm
like i didn't know people weren't recognizing him as the undisputed people were it should
Just one belt that technically, like Tio was saying, I'm not sure if you saw that part
where he shouldn't, Tio said, Bud, shouldn't be undisputed technically because he didn't pay
that fee, so on paper, even though the world knows his.
Now, Tio sounds like he hated.
That sounds like some hating.
Well, he's referring back to what happened with him with Loma.
He's like, same thing happened to me.
People weren't considered me undisputed on paper.
Yeah, but at the end of the day, it did happen to you and it's fucked up.
It's not a good situation.
And he wanted to be called an disputed.
So while we say the same thing about.
At the end of the day, it's, boy, so now I'm like, bro, just give him his credit, bro.
There ain't nobody who I'm not calling him undisputed.
We know he was undisputed.
So it was like, there ain't need nothing to talk about.
Do you view this fight as, like, personal, strategic, or legacy-driven?
I think it's all three.
It's all three.
Now, I don't try to take things personal, but it's personal for me.
Like, it's in my personal life.
I want to be the best.
Like, that's all I've been striving for.
as I started.
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So now it's just like the legacy I know going to come with it.
Strategy is going to be on point to where I make sure I've got to follow the game plan
and come fight night.
But personally, for me and my kid, for me and my family, like, I want to just, I want to
eat forever. Is this the biggest pay
that you've gotten so far? For sure, no question.
I got to ask you about Jake Paul
because you spent some time in camp with him
sparring with him, then you and Keishon
did as well. You know what I'm saying?
No, boy, he was there with you all, right? Yeah, for sure.
So most people
that haven't spent time around
Jake have an issue with him, fighting
fighters, I'm saying, but once they spend some time
around, they have a different perspective of who
he is. Is that your experience with Jake?
I've been around before.
Before that, okay, so you know. I kind of already had a
view of like he's really a cool dude right people would talk about him but if somebody can come to
a sport to wear like women's boxing let's speak for example with them they don't get no attention
they don't get no love and they deserve it right and then jake paul shons a light that's bright on
them female fighters and now they're making millions of dollars it's like at the end of the day you
got to respect him for moving into a lane and and helping out somewhere where it was weak
Yeah, and you got to respect him as a person, too.
I think Jay Paul is a real.
And as a fighter, though, too.
I mean, what about that?
I mean, I respect him as a fighter because he's working hard to get to where he's at, so.
Has he gotten better, though?
Like, hell yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure.
Like, from where he started to now, he's way better.
How did he feel, did he have power?
Did he touch you in the ring?
Like, how did that feel like?
What was that like?
I remember him, like, catching me, like, catching my glove.
Right.
And when he caught my glove, I'm like, oh, he could really.
Yeah, he's like 200-something pounds, so you're going to feel it, but, um...
That shit ain't going to do nothing to AJ.
AJ 26.
That's what I'm one...
I can he tell you all.
So he ain't got a shot against AJ.
He ain't going to kill him, in other words.
I don't know.
I don't know.
We'll see, y'all.
I'm a room for both fighters.
I'm a fan of Jake Paul, so I can't go against that dude.
Like, it's hard for me.
Listen, I feel you 100%.
I respect what he's done for women's boxing.
I've gone to some of the MVP fights for women's boxing,
but he's going to get killed.
But I still respect.
And AJ ain't holding back.
Come on.
But I respect his heart getting in the ring with AJ.
I do think when it comes down to it,
where AJ been boxing for so long,
Olympic gold medalists,
he should go in there and just wipe him.
But we'll see.
We'll see him come fight night.
Is tank still a, I know that was like a fight for you,
but there's been so much him not fighting Jake Paul at this point
and just, you know,
Like, is that even something you even, like, care about at this point with what you're about to do with Lopez?
Yeah, I'm honestly done with that.
I ain't really got too much to say on that because it's like, it's a lose, lose situation.
Like, it's a lot of people that just hate me to hate me, but they don't really understand the situation of the facts.
So it's like when you speak on this, like you shine a light to the situation.
So I ain't really talking about it, but I'm locked in.
It's me and Teal.
That's a big fight.
That's legacy making fight.
And I just can't wait to show who I am.
And those top names at 35 was, it was obviously Tank, Devin, Tio.
You're about to fight one of them, right?
Yeah.
This fight that we want to be is about to happen.
So is Devin on your list next so you could keep going on that list?
I would love to fight Devin.
I would love to fight Devin.
The only thing is because a lot of people kind of compare
me saying that I have a fight kind of been with Devin Haney.
And I understand it.
But the thing that I said, even with Kahnabin,
I would want the same weight clause as he put on U-Bank.
Yeah, yeah.
And that's what I want come fight night with Kahneman now.
When I go to 47 with Devin, is he's going to allow the same weight clause?
Like, it becomes a business.
Right.
Like, how are we going to do this fight?
And if he do shit, let's lock in game.
So Kahn of Ben is still on the list.
I told you that's the fight that I think should be next,
but I'm not trying to look past Tiel.
Right, no doubt.
Tio is really the main thing that's on my mom,
but I'm just answering the questions for y'all.
What mental adjustments are you making specifically for Tio?
I think we both got a lot of mental adjustments to make
because both of us mentally is like we always trying to please the fans
and put on shows for the fans.
I think we got to make sure that we locking in on our game plans.
The person with the best game plan is going to,
come out on top what do you feel about all the uh the racism thing that's been coming around
around them in the last couple of months i don't believe it i don't believe it like i think that
tio's not racist i think that he's clout chasing like that's what i really seen from it like it's a
guy who's been look past his whole career and he's doing anything to get some type of spotlight
on him and that's what i kind of seen from the situation because i've known tio for years and
years he ain't never really been no racist person so not so you go that's what he just said though he said
like I'm just trying to cause chaos because trying to sell his fight he wanted to be in the spotlight
like people look past him like um even in this situation the fight was not going to happen like this
was a fight that wasn't going to happen until I'm like yo boom I'm looking through the playing field
right before my last fight I'm like Tio and I kind of told the higher powers and the people in
a position that me and Tio's a fight
that's the biggest fight they
really ain't want Tio Tio ain't no
like truthfully like
but you know um like I said
I appreciate him for saying yes and he
appreciate me for making happen
he said he didn't send the watermelons and bananas
to Kishan's locker room you believe that
you believe that?
Hell no I don't think he did that shit
for real? No I don't think he did that shit
oh wow wow wow wow I think that he chose the internet
during his fight week where it's like
um with the banana shit
but I don't
think he sent it to his room, no.
Who do you think did it?
Listen, some people were saying,
some people saying that top, you heard the room was
about top rank, did it themselves to create
some motion?
No, I know.
It is crazy, but he
said that, Tio said that on the show, like,
I think they did it.
Oh, you said you know.
No, I don't know. No, I don't know.
No, I don't know. But I told him who I
think it is. Like, you could,
make your own speculation so yeah so press conference today you got a banana kishan you're jumping out
you're jumping on them huh soon as you see you're told me to chill so i got a chill they are
right you've had critics say your style is too safe other people call you a defensive genius
does this fight give you the chance to silence people who question you period and your offensive
output no because at the end of the day they still gonna say something like when somebody
really got hatred for somebody and they hate you even if you watched floyd entire career
people hated on him
the entire time
but as soon as he retired
it's like oh he was the greatest
but like during his career
it's like oh he's boring
he runs he blah blah blah
but if you actually
watch the fights he wasn't running
he wasn't moving all around the ring
he just showed skills he had defense
he didn't get hit
you didn't take unnecessary punishment
so with me I think it's kind of similar
like I mean worry about
what they say they're going to say something
today and then they're going to say something tomorrow
They might say something during the fight.
I saw that with Haney.
Devin Haney's last fight.
Second round, of course, he looked amazing, right?
At 147, drop dude.
But then it was like, but the rest of the fight he was born.
Like, y'all watched it in real time.
Like, literally in real time, it's like, oh, boring Devin's back.
I'm like, God damn, he looks at me.
You know what's boring to people, though?
It's boring when you watch it, and it's so easy.
Like, when Devin's just making it easy, it ain't really like,
it's nothing coming back to where it's danger.
Now, if he got hit with a big.
big shot, they'll be, oh, this is the best
Devon fight I ever seen in my life.
Were you impressed with Devin's performance?
Yeah, I thought Devin looked good. I thought
early on he did what he was supposed to do.
I think later on he could have stepped on the gas a little bit more,
but, like, that's everybody, you know?
In these fights, you just got to make sure you succeed
at the end of the day, and I think that's what he was focused on.
Look, Eddie Hearn, obviously, you work with him and you work with him.
He threw some shots at Devin after the fight saying that,
yeah, he don't want to engage.
Eddie Hearn promoted Devin Haney.
How do you feel about him now throwing a shot at him like that?
I think it's a business.
So at the end of the day, during business,
it's a lot of things that's going to be said
when somebody is not working for you.
So I think in that aspect,
Devin and Eddie's not working together.
So if they were together,
he wouldn't have said that.
He probably would have said it.
He would have said a master class.
Now, but you know, it's crazy, though.
Out of all the promoters,
I've been telling you all this, not stand by days.
I think Eddie is actually a good.
promoter. He is a good person too.
For sure. You feel more pressure to win
or to Dominic? Dominate.
I got to go in there
and like, y'all got to know
I'm winning this fight. I don't like being
in them fights to where it's like you
don't know who's winning. Like
when you watch Lamont and Pitbull, it's some casuals
that don't know who's winning
the fight. But if you really
paying attention, you could tell like Lamont
is this your first time at the Big Garden
fighting? No, I fought here
under butt on the cards. Oh yeah, on a bar.
Back in the day, yeah.
So you and Brian Garcia switching gears.
I saw y'all's exchange.
You really hate him in real life.
No, no.
I'll beat you up all of my life.
No, it was more so like you see somebody and like they say something slick and you got to still let them know like who you is.
Like they still got to know like, bro, I ain't, this ain't nothing new, bro.
Like I'm still that same person I've been.
So it's like us just reunited.
same in this just reunited
I thought he was kind of like
trying to give you a little bit
of like saying you gave me credit
yeah he gave you the credit
I gave him credit too
yeah okay
I give him credit he's a he's a good fighter
I think that I'm with Ryan
when he's focused
he's a really good fighter
but if it's like he got all these
outside the ring things going on
you're going to get a bad version of him
but with me
if he's talking about getting the ring with me
he better be focused
I gotta ask you about
budd real quick there rumors about him
fighting Canello again a rematch
I don't know how true is that.
I know that's your bro, big bro.
What do you think Bud should do?
Like if it was up to you because he's done everything in the sport, right?
Should he hang it up or should retire?
Retire.
If I'm Bud Crawford, I'm the greatest.
What am I doing?
I already proved y'all everything.
Like, there's nothing else to prove y'all no more.
I beat all the guys as y'all said, I couldn't meet.
But if there's another 70, 100 millionaires home to turn out.
Yeah, that's cool.
but like from like if I was home it's like I did everything what am I doing we go fight
Canello again he can't beat me the only thing that's going to happen I may stop him this time like
if I'm him right right once he once he hangs it up is how long before Shakur is that number one
pound-of-pound fight in the world give me like two years two years I think we're on the verge I think
everything is happening the way it's supposed to happen so just keep toning there who's your favorite
fighter outside of bud right now right now right now
now in boxing?
Bavall.
Bavall.
I think Bavall is like one of the hardest fighters to beat.
Because he's so basic and he mastered the fundamentals of boxing.
He don't just got, he keep his hands up, he keep his one-two going,
he got great feetwork.
So he don't just stand right there in front of guys all night.
He's moving all around.
And I think he's, to me, besides myself, I think he's the best boxer.
You know, people think the fight with T.O.
is either going to be you delivering a master class.
Or a knockout by T.O.
Yeah, are you getting into some type of brawl with Tio
and end up getting knocked out, right?
What are the fans getting wrong about the matchup?
I think the fans is getting wrong about the matchup
is where I'm not sleeping on that I know about Tio.
Tio's a good boxer.
He's boxer first.
So we can say, oh, he's just going to knock you out.
He's just going to...
That's not whom.
He's boxing first.
He's going to want to establish distance
and range on the outside
and try to beat me up on the outside
so I think that's the main thing
and also the biggest thing
that everybody don't realize with me
I can punch. Everybody said, oh, he can't
punch and then boom, crack somebody
and then they laying down or something
may happen to where they hurt or something
like that, so I think that's two big things
where they don't understand
and know. Timothy Bradley said he feel like
you're going to hurt. He said he feels like
you can hurt Teal. I can. I can't. He said you got the style to hurt him.
I can't. I can catch him with something he don't see.
But he just better be paying attention all night
I better get up out of here
Well quick though
I know you train
I got a flight
That's what I said daddy
I got a flight
Are you going to
Jake Paul versus Anthony Joshua
You're going to the fight
When is it
He's after 10 days
Eight days
Oh no I ain't going
I'm in Canada
You got to
I'm locked
You're locked in
I'm locked this is the biggest fight
In my career
I got to be
At a different level
than I've been in a past
Yeah you got to elevate
Yeah
I'm excited about this one
We appreciate you for joining us
The 31st is the fight January.
We wish you the best, brother.
Appreciate y'all too.
Yes, sir.
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