The Breakfast Club - INTERVIEW: Shamea Morton On Joining RHOA, Porsha Williams Relationship, Surrogacy, African Men + More

Episode Date: May 15, 2025

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We are The Breakfast Club. We got a special guest in the building from the Real Housewives of Atlanta, Shamia Morton. Welcome. Hey, best friends. How you feeling? I'm excited. I've been waiting to come hang out with y'all for so long.

We've seen you. You've been up here a lot. Thank you. We see you. We pass you in the halls. We've been seeing you up here. Yeah, but I'm just tired of passing y'all. I just wanted to be in the room with y'all.

Why you be in the halls? Well, she had other shows up here. Oh, she did you shows? Yeah. Oh, OK, OK, OK, OK, got you, got you, got you. So how you feeling? How's everything? You know, everything's been great.

New York has been kind. My birthday was yesterday, so I got to celebrate here. Y'all had a party up here. On the 13th? Yes. That's me and my wife's anniversary. Dope. Stop.

24 years. That's a beautiful thing. You picked the right day. You picked the right day. Yeah, I picked the right day. Why do I care if it's my birthday? Yeah. 24 years. That's a beautiful thing. You picked the right day. You picked the right day. Why do I care if it's my birthday? Don't do that. I do. Yes, I do.

I love it. Black love. There we go. Well, you got your new single, Out Never Had. Yes. Oh my goodness. So I'm excited about that song, because R.L. and B-Fly helped produce that.

R.L. from Next. And you know how it is in the industry. You tell people you really want to do something. They're like, yeah, yeah, come by the studio and no one ever follows up and really don't do anything. So me being at my big age, it was still a passion of mine to sing and do music. And he gave me a shot and people are loving it

and I'm loving that y'all are supporting it. Thank you. Let's first talk about how she walked in here. She walked in here with sparklers and liquor for everybody. Like it was the nightclub. I felt like I was about to get a shot. She had the two bottle girls with the sparklers. She came in like, hey, y'all bought bottles. Charlotte Rae said, can I tip y'all?

Like, you guys are good. Why do you think your career didn't take off? The music career. In the past, it's been because of the new girl groups. Or, you know, like I was in the group Co-Ed, Roll With Me, back in the day. Roll With Me. Yeah, Roll With Me.

I don't know that song. I thought it was pretty Ricky. You said what song? I thought it was pretty Ricky. Okay, so, dang. You said it was a pretty Ricky. I thought I knew it. I'm like, what song is that?

But that was a girl group with Keri Hilsen. I did a girl group with Keri Hilsen. It was called Pretty Tony. And then, of course, Shamari Fears went a group called Intrigue back in the day. I've done lots of groups. And you know how it is with groups back in the day. It was like somebody else gets signed by somebody, then not a group is broken up,

or somebody gets pregnant, now it's over. And I think I just got burned out at a young age, and that acting check was better. So I started focusing on that acting, hosting, and the music love was always there. So I was like, I'm going back to it. But you've always had a beautiful voice, though. Thank you.

Thank you, I appreciate it. So yeah, I was like singing at churches, bar mitzvahs, funerals, and it was like, okay, I gotta do it. I just gotta do it on my own. And now it's easier because social media helps you to just put your own stuff out there. You don't have to wait on, yeah, like back in the day it was like you gotta do it for A&R, have a whole showcase, someone's gotta approve, label gotta sign you, then you gotta hope that they put it out.

Now you just sing on Instagram, I hope it goes viral. Well with that said, what does success look like in that space for you at right now? I think I'm living it right now. Just having my song even hit the chart is a blessing because I'm like a little on me, you know, I just, I don't know, even people just singing it and tagging me in their videos, like,

oh, this is a vibe, I like it. It feels good. Because now I'm just not singing it for my family on a fireplace, dude. It's like, no, the world is loving it. So are we just doing singles? Are we all in the making a EP? What's going on? So I just shot the video for it. So I'm going to release that next month.

And I don't know. I've gotten five strong songs so far. So I don't know if I've gotten five strong songs so far. So I don't know if I want to do an EP or album, but we'll see. Yeah. Now also we got to ask you a friend on the Housewives for a while. Or forever. So you've seen the mess, you've seen the craziness, the fights and all. Yes.

What made you want to be part of that franchise as an official member? I think I've always wanted to do it, but they wouldn't allow me to do it without my husband actually agreeing to come on camera And he wasn't for it. He was like I support you doing it and our kids and y'all can film at the house I just don't want to be on camera and When they came over did a test shoot with me They saw how I was living and they were like, I don't think we'll need him

Well, we'll be able to show a little bit. They're like well, they're like, well, we'll be able to move forward You know, and then this was holding out on how much money you had and everything I don't think we'll need him. They were like, well, we'll be able to move forward. That's the joy. And then, that's what's holding out on how much money you had and everything. Well, you know, I don't know. I just don't leave with it. I mean, unless you know me and we're like great friends, you wouldn't know. Because I mean, I don't know.

It's weird for me to be like, hey, you know, I'm rich. But if that's what's required, you know, for you to get on the show, were you ever, was that something that you, did you even want to have a peach on the show or did you like the position of a friend? I did, I did, but I just, I didn't think that it would ever happen because he again had to agree to be on camera and he was like, but then he ends up joining us a little bit this season, like for big events for me, like my birthday or my showcase and stuff. He pulls up, but he was like the same, the same, he shies away from cameras,

that's not his thing, and I'm like, I respect that. I was gonna ask too, because there's so much focus on relationships on the show, how did you get him not to film? So how did you get him not to have to film a whole season? He films a little bit, he's on it a little bit. He does come a little bit, but it's not like, our personal life is, that's me, that's mine.

You only can give what you wanna give or show what you wanna show. And I think, you know, he pulls off our kids and my birth, like the big moments, but he's just not into it. Like- And the network was completely okay with that? Yeah.

Wow. Finally. I mean, finally, you know, I've been, and that's another thing. I feel like my personality and just what I bring is enough. I don't necessarily need y'all to, he's, it's not the housewives, you know, the husbands,

it's the wives. So the focus should be on the wives. And I think anytime the men have gotten too involved, it's been messy. I think it's been weird too. Like when the men are just sitting there talking to each other about the women, it just seems weird on the show.

Even I think at your party, just when they go to the men over there talking in the, it just seems odd, like, you know what I mean? You'd be right over there with the odd. You'd be right in that mix. I would, but it seems weird. Kekeing. Yeah, you're right, but it seems weird.

Would you and your wife ever do something like that? No. No? We thought about it a couple of times in that approach, but I wanted to ask, for people that don't know, how close are you and Portia meeting growing up? Were y'all best friends growing up? Did y'all live down the block? So our parents were best friends.

And that's kind of how we became friends. And you know how it is when y'all take family trips. So we go, and at first it was like a forced friendship because it was like we were childhood friends. Then I went to college, she did her thing. And after we just kind of came back together when she got married and it was like, oh my gosh, I missed you.

And we were like inseparable since. So prior to this show, I would like to think that we were very close. But the show changed that a little bit. Yeah, and that's unfortunate because I love Portia. We have a good time together. She's super silly like me, down to earth. And just this platform, I prayed that it

wouldn't change things, but unfortunately it has. And it's like a lot of people muddying and murk, you know, making the water a little messy. It's messy. But you know what I'm saying? Is it real or manufactured? Cause I mean, No, these feelings are very real.

Like everything that's- You think they're being exploited for a storyline? I think that they are just messy. Like I think some of these women are messy and I would never have allowed them to ruin our friendship or even muddy the waters. But she's listened to some of the things that they've said. And of course, with this show, everything will be revealed.

It will be shown to you. And it's like we've gone this whole season and not really been speaking. So when you watch it, it's gonna be like, okay, see, I told you. I told you that Drew said this about paying for your child's college. As a real friend, I'm not gonna allow somebody to talk about you in your absence. I think you should have been like, thank you for holding me down in my absence.

Instead, she's like, oh, you're trying to start a mess with me and Drew, or it's like you brought it back, you exaggerated it. And I'm like, it was no need to exaggerate it. The girl said what she said. and I said that she said it jokingly but she said it and I don't even add the part about oh I'll be able to buy her some snacks. Like it was just I'll pay for her college and I'm like no, if someone came and they said

oh I'm gonna pay for Marley Sky's college, I'm like no, I'm sure Jess got it. You know, you don't need to do that. You know, you're being messy. I hate that. How much of the edits really affected, right? Because there was one part, and you know, I watched the show with my wife. I guess you guys were going out for dinner.

And one of the girls, like, first time meeting him, and then she threw a shot at Portia right away, right? And he was like, that's my friend. So before you go there, that's my friend. So how much of the show edits that we don't see, that maybe you did check and tell her to stand here, but we only see that little glimpse of it? Oh yeah, well that, I mean, you know,

you only get an hour, so they can't show everything. But they're filming all day, like mostly all day. Absolutely, and I definitely did check both of them. You know, they kinda came for my friend, and you know, that's the problem that I have now on the season. Like, I'm the lab dog, because I'm a super loyal person, and I'm a loyal friend, and if that's what that means,

then I guess I'm a Lab Dogg because what you're not gonna do is talk trash about my people and not expect me to speak about it and speak up on it. And I brought that information back to Portia as I would think I want her to do for me. Like, hey, girl, this is what they said. Like, I told them they should get to know you for yourself. You know, they were like, oh, you know,

how you let your friends steal that lady's husband? I'm like, yo, this is how these new girls are coming. Just giving you a heads up so you know. And it was like, it's all that's being turned around. Like, you're being messy and talking about your friend. Now, is Portia a different Portia outside of Housewives? And she is on Housewives. You're her friend, so you would know that.

Well, you know, y'all have known each other for a while. I think that on the show, she can kinda like close up and not be as vulnerable and open, but rightfully so. Like sometimes on this platform, you get torn apart for being vulnerable and being open. It's like, oh, you should have did something. So it's like almost like you're damned if you do, damned if you don't.

So yeah, I do think that she's guarded in a sense, whereas if we're just one-on-one hanging out, it's like, it's whatever. I'm an open book and the sky's the limit, whatever. But the show, of course, she's like, I'm gonna harness and hold back on some of this stuff because I don't wanna be judged or I don't want to feel, you know.

Do you feel like things changed after you got your peach? Yeah. Even more than before? Yes, because now we're sharing this space and this spotlight. And it's uncomfortable. You feel she's jealous? I don't know that she's jealous. I don't want to say that.

But I just feel like it's just different. Because before, I was just a friend of. Now, it's like I have a mic on. Before, I would be at some of these events, and no one would even know I was in the room. Because again, I'm just a friend of Horshaw, a friend of Kandi. And I may have an opinion on something

but you wouldn't know it because they didn't catch it. Whereas now it's like, oh, well, where did Shemeah get this big voice from or this big personality from? Well, I've always been here. I just never got the opportunity to express it or show it. And like I said, back to Horshaw, I just don't feel like, in a real friendship, you have to like, I don't wanna say be guarded,

but it's like, am I cool to say this? Like, we good? I don't wanna out nothing, or I don't wanna talk about something that you're not comfortable talking about or bringing to this platform or bringing to this space. Like, are we good? So you're kinda like walking on eggshells.

It's like for the longest time it's been her thing. And now this is our thing. And whereas before as a friend of the show is like, Hey, we ain't talking about this on show. Okay, cool. Now it's like, well, this is my personal life. You're my real friend. This is what it is. We have to, I'm open. I'm super open and rich in authenticity. Whatever I am is what I am on camera and off camera. So there's nothing off limits for you to talk about with me. People would say, you know, in the comments that, you know, she didn't come up to your wedding. She came late to your birthday party.

She didn't come to the wedding in Kenya. In Kenya. And to be clear, I only had one wedding. Oh, okay. So you didn't have two. And that was a wedding in Kenya. And people would say that, you know, how did you feel that she didn't come? When she was up here, she said the reason she didn't,

she was late for your birthday is, she said it was traffic, she can't shoot in her house, she shot at her mom's house. Why you looking at me like that? I'm just like, okay, okay. All right, she said that she was in traffic, she couldn't shoot at her house, so she had to shoot at her mom's house.

It was way across the other side, so it took a little extra time. So how did that make you feel when she missed both of those things as her best friend? And see, that's way across the other side, so it took a little extra time. So how did that make you feel when she missed both of those things as her best friend? And see, that's the thing, when I speak on it, it's like I'm throwing shade at Portia. And I should have forgiven her years ago.

Okay, yeah, we moved on, but since I'm on this platform now, all of this stuff is coming back up. And I'm not bringing it up. And that's what happens. And I gotta talk about it, right? But so it's like, I'm not on this Portia tour of just trying to slander Porsche and shame her. That's not what this is about.

But the reality is, yes, she did miss my wedding in Kenya. And yes, it was hurtful. And we talked about it and we've moved past it. But again, that's one of the things that the ladies bring up on the show. Like, oh, it feels like your friendship is lopsided. She didn't come to your wedding, she didn't do this. And I'm constantly having to defend it,

and in return, she's listening, like, you talking about me to these other girls. I'm like, no, actually, these girls are bringing you up to me, talking about how you're not a good friend. But yeah, I mean, all that stuff happens. It's the real deal. Like, I didn't make this up. I didn't tell her to come later.

She showed up when she showed up. It looked how it looked. I didn't tell her to come later. She showed up when she showed up. It looked how it looked. I don't have any control of that. But you also know your friend, right? So you know her. You know, you know, Pauja don't like to be around a lot of people. You know she's a cancer.

She's a homebody. So being that you know her, you don't give her a little bit more grace? I do. Because you know her better than them girls. I do, and that's what I'm saying. So even when she came late, I was like, it's what it is. It's cool. I've downplayed I do, and that's what I'm saying. So even when she came late, I was like,

it's what it is, it's cool. I've downplayed everything, which is why they think I'm a lap dog, because they like, why do you keep giving her this grace? You should speak up about it. You should say something about it. And I'm like, it's whatever. But then in the same token, she's a homebody,

and she's an introvert, but she also shows up for other people's things. Gotcha. That makes sense. So you started off, and side note, these are some of my wife's questions, because I asked, I was like, Chamea's things. Got you. That makes sense. So you know, you started off, and side note, these are some of my wife's questions, because I asked, I was like, Chameleon's coming. I told you he be with them guys over there.

They don't know. If you like the show, you like the show, why you gotta be like that? So my wife asked, my wife asked, just because I said, babe, send me some questions, what you would ask. She was like, so, now at first you were Portia's second chair, like her homie,

her chair leader. But it says now, you know now you've taken a different outcome. It says you've become a boss and you're standing on your own. What do you say about the change in the public's perception of you? And do you think that they had it all wrong from the beginning of who you are? Well thank you, wifey, for calling me a boss. I appreciate that. I think that I've always been me. I just never had the platform to showcase

who I am and what I stand for, my friendships, my faith, my family, the fun girl side of me. I just never had that opportunity. So now that I'm here, I'm like, all right, this is what it is. I just, I'm a good friend. I'm a good follower, but I'm also a great leader. And I think that's what makes a good leader, somebody that can follow and sit back and let everybody else shine. I don't mind it. It doesn't take anything away from me

for you being the first chair or you being, I'm cool, plus one, whatever. I know how I'm living. I know what I'm bringing. Let me ask you this. I'm just asking, right? Doesn't it seem a little strange to like now have issues

with a friend because y'all on a show? That y'all knew each other all your life, right? Because I would think that y'all could fuck the cameras. Like y'all are in Portia, what's up? And I've reached out and you'll see this upcoming episode. But that's what I'm saying, I shouldn't have to see that on the episode. I mean, but even outside,

but see that's the only chance you have to see it because everything else is done in private. And no one believes you when you say, oh, we spoke about this in private and it's fine. Then it's like, oh no, you're too scared to confront your friend. But a lot of times I tell people, no, this was not for y'all.

This conversation was not for y'all. It was for us. And it's like, but you're on a show. You can't decide what's private and what's not, you know? Because again, you wouldn't know, like, this drama or this tension if it weren't for the show. So, I mean, we talk about things on the show and off the show, and it's like, it's a weird space.

I don't want it to be that way. I mean, I posted her, her daughter, and tried to extend it all branch and show love, and she's been super distant. And I was very shocked yesterday to even get a birthday post. I was like, yes, thank you. Like, wow, I love you.

You know. Yeah, and you did text her. Yeah, and she texted me, happy birthday. And I was like, thank you so much. I was like, this made my day. You think she's been distant because she doesn't know what's for, what could potentially be for TV

and what's real anymore between y'all? Possibly, possibly, but I'm like, can we talk about it? Yeah. But y'all know this is all for, if producers and things like that and showrunners see that, they're gonna try to make that a bigger moment anyway, whether it's what y'all wanna do or not.

You're right, but it's like for me. They're gonna find, they're gonna put little bugs in the ears and. They can only do what you allow. Yeah. Right. And if you my like day one, I should be able to be like, Charlamagne, like, yo, this ain't what it is. I love you. We lock like this.

We not, no one can say, here's what Drew said, just FYI. And you take it for what it is. I don't know, I'm not feeling, it's feel like you creating something. Why would I finally wanna create something on a show? Like, I'm the same person that I've been. This, not trying to be funny, but I spent money to be on a show.

That's not where I get my money from. You say you spent money? Yeah, the lavish parties and all that stuff, that cost. The money that I'm getting on the show is not enough. Goes back into investing on your personality on the show. Yeah, way more. By my first birthday party, the first event I had, took that whole check away. So it's not like, I'm not trying to be funny. I enjoy the show and I love it. And I appreciate it for the platform that I'm getting to expose things like my music. But at the end of the day, it's not a deal breaker for me. Like you are, our friendship is.

The love I have for you is. So at the end of the day, when this is done and if they say, oh, we don't need you next season, I'm here, we should still be able to move forward with our friendship. Envy texted me a question to ask you. He said, Essence published an article that claims you nor Portia are in a shit

in your friendship drama. What are your thoughts on that perspective? Okay, Essence, thank you. I mean, that's all on your POV. I can't change, and a lot of people in the comments say, oh, Shmi is no victim, Portia's no victim, they're the same, whatever well you know hey we're friends we've been friends for a long time so you know hey we probably are a lot alike that's not a bad thing I think she's a good person. So this is

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you get your podcasts. Lighten the rest of the world. What is it about these Africans? LOL. You have one, Portia has one. I didn't ask that question. Hold on. Let me tell you this.

I had my African before. It was cool to have an African. All right. This was back in the day. I've been with my African for hold on. Let me tell you this. I had my African before. It was cool to have an African, all right? This was back in the day. I've been with my African for 11 years. That sounds crazy. This is when I got crap for being with an African.

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The meme used to go around. And then I even had people be ugly about it. It was like, you better get him tested. Better make sure you don't have AIDS. You know, it was nasty work. What? Yeah. This was like- About all people?

That's what we come from. Thank you. Thank you. And it was all the nastiness. And then there was this new wave of get you an African. And it was all glorified. And I'm like, well, hold on. Because when I got with my husband, y'all were being mean about it.

I lost friendships over that. One of my old homegirls actually said, you know, he's got about five wives, girl. I'm like, where are these wives? Because we got married in a Catholic church in Kenya, and they actually have to do a full publication of, like in the press, in the news, everything. They say, this man, Jeremiah Ng'iwangi, will be wedding Shamia Yvonne Morton on this day at this church if anybody objects to it.

And we had to... Why'd you start speaking in tongues just now? No, that was her husband's name. That's my husband's name. Oh, you're stupid. I didn't know how long it's heard of me. Oh, you're so messy. I'm going, no.

He's so fancy. He's so shady. Oh, Charlamagne. No, long has it been since I've heard of him? Oh, you're so messy. I'm going, what? He's so bad. He's so shady. Oh, Charlamagne. No, so we had to do a whole, and then you know with the whole scam and stuff, like, you have to go and get cleared with the embassy to Mary. So if he had all these extra wives, I wouldn't know about it. They would have come up in his profile. Like it's the weirdest thing to me.

And yeah, I was like, I had to stand ten toes down. I love my African brothers and sisters, by the way. You and me both. 11 years ago, you didn't know Africans were balling. Something wrong with you. You wasn't paying attention. They were real nasty with it, like, ugh. You gonna marry a, OK, girl, be careful, cuz.

And I'm like, uh. And he's the president of Dominion Energy, what is it, I mean? Yep. You been doing your homework. They build age-based. He counts Energy. What is it? Yeah. You been doing your homework. They build HVAC. He counts money. That's what he does.

He counts money. I like seeing black people, because they are black. I like seeing black people do things that you don't normally see people doing. And we always scream about going to learn a trade, right? Like everybody can't be a celebrity. Everybody can't be an athlete.

Yes. To learn a trade. But he actually has a whole HVAC company. Company, several. He does mergers, acquisitions. So they build and manufacture HVACs from, you know, the government buildings, the airports, you know. Oh, filthy.

Filthy rich. What a culling in for last birthday a couple of years ago. Last year. Rose race for you, sir. Rose race for you. I'm so happy that you are going and that you got your music, you got your lovely husband. I know I seen in a recent episode

that you was talking about your former husband who was abusive and you said when you were married to him for a year, you got divorced and you feel like people turn their backs on you. How did that impact you moving forward? Did it impact your, like did it put a strain on relationships, friendships, platonic friendships? Yeah, cause you know, in a divorce,

it's like they gotta pick a side. And they always go to the richer side. All those people, they didn't really believe me when I talked about the abuse in the relationship. And it was fine because the people that I love in my family, they did, they saw it. And I had to just move forward. Like some of the same people that introduced me to him. And you see it on the show how she's like the lady that actually introduced me to my ex, end up calling me and apologizing like, this was in 2008.

All these years later, she finally sees that, oh my goodness, cause he did it to somebody else. And she just was, she was crying. She was apologetic on the phone. Like, I'm so sorry, I didn't believe you. I just thought he, and I was like, you know, I get it. Like he is this popular guy. He, you know, he represented amazing artists in the industry.

He was that guy. Like CPA, accounting, like all the things. And it was just better to just go over there because of his popularity and his finances. And I was just a regular cheerleader that was just, you know, graduated college and was just figuring it out. I will say it's good that she apologized

because you don't ever see people, when they wrong, come back, when they figure out that they were wrong, and apologize. Oh, yeah. They're all very much, even if they don't apologize for it, I'll get a DM, or I'll get something from some of the people in that crew. They'll be like, hey, you doing your thing.

I'm proud of you. Or hey, so to me, it's like a nod of, all right, cool. I'm like, thank, you doing your thing, I'm proud of you. Or hey, so it's like to me, it's like a nod of like, all right, cool. I'm like, thank you, you know. You cheered for the Hawks for what, over a decade, right? No, no, no, I've worked in the NBA for it because I'm doing like sideline reporting and in-game hosting for the NBA,

but I did cheer for five years. You cheer for five and then you turn into a sideline. Yep. Wow. Why'd you stop doing it? What, in-game hosting and sideline reporting? I'm still doing it. Yeah, I just did All Star and everything. She said she don't really need to be on the show

because she have so many other gigs like a Jamaican. I do. That is interesting. So you clearly don't need the money. You got an actual career. Has the show, Real Housewives, been everything you thought it was going to be so far? Absolutely. I mean, look where I'm at now. I'm here hanging out with y'all. Has the show, Real Housewives, been everything you thought it was gonna be so far? Is it worth it?

Absolutely. I mean, look where I'm at now. I'm here hanging out with y'all. You wouldn't have even known me if it weren't for the show. You know, like you would have known me as Portia's friend, but there wouldn't have been any value to me coming and hanging out with y'all. So the show does have its perks like this.

Like, you know. And that song. And my song. Yes. Exactly, just like I wanna be able to showcase my music, you know, and then also bring awareness to children with special needs. When I had my daughter, there was so much I didn't know and didn't have the resources and didn't know where to go. Because people that look like

me or the cool kids aren't supposed to have kids that have disabilities. And it happened to me and it was like, Oh my goodness, this is my new life. This is my new normal. I got to figure all these things out. So just being able to have this platform to me and it was like, oh my goodness, this is my new life, this is my new normal, I gotta figure all these things out. So just being able to have this platform to showcase and shed a light on that kind of stuff is even amazing to me. Is it true that you and Candy Bearers had the same surrogate?

Yes. Wow. Yes, Shadina. Oh, Shadina, okay. Her name is Shadina. And she's amazing, shout out to Shadina. She breast cancer survivor, all the things. And that's how Shiloh was born early because of her diagnosis. Wow. How did you know? Did Candy recommend her?

Yeah, I met her through Candy. Absolutely. She has a surrogacy agency. It's called Surrogacy Miracles. Her and Dr. Jackie own the agency together. So initially I went through the agency to try to get a surrogate. And I was like, well, I mean, you carried, Blaze, you did a good job. Why don't you just carry my child? Yeah, I'm an idiot. So I never thought about it, but I was like, if you're a surrogate, you've probably done that more than once.

I never thought you'd do that. People do that. It's a business. Yeah, exactly. That's how they make their money. Wow. I wanted to ask about Kenya, right? Now, is she on pause or is she fired?

I don't really know, but I think that, she never returns from that point, for the rest of the season. She never returns, so, I mean, I don't know if she'll be back next season. I don't even know if I'll be back. I mean, you know, we don't, I don't make those kind of decisions.

What was your thoughts on the way how Bravo handled it? Before you answered that, I love you, girl. I gotta go. I love you, too. Thank you so much. She was talking so bad about you. Can we get at least a selfie before you go? Yes. Talk about Kenya and the way Bravo handled it.

What were your thoughts? You know, the network knows more than I would. They did their homework, they did their investigation and they felt like they made the best decision. Of course, that's my boss, I'm gonna support it. Whatever they say is what it is. Is she going to do the reunion or we don't know as of yet? I don't know. I would hope. I would love to hear, you know,

what her thoughts are at this point after she's seen it all. But again, I don't know. What did you think about what she did as far as the leaking and all that? Oh, it was jaw dropping for sure to be there. I guess you had to be there to feel the attention. But I was like, you know, you hurt me. I literally was like, Kenya, come on girl. Like, that's too much. Like, that's, she was like, you don't tell me it was too much.

Be you, you know, and she kind of was like, so after she apologized for that. But I guess if you, I guess every action has a reaction, and she felt like this girl did this, so I'm giving it back to her. I wouldn't have handled it that way, but she did, and you see where we are, so. Can I go back to the surrogate thing for a second? You think about getting one?

No, I just want, because you actually, you carried a child, and then you had a surrogate. So what's the difference between the experiences? So I had a great pregnancy with my first born. I had a C-section and it was fine. I'm still actively trying to get pregnant. If I was to get pregnant tomorrow, it'd be amazing. But I also, after that, had an ectopic pregnancy where I lost my left fallopian tube and was bleeding internally. And this was a year and a half ago.

And so the journey to grow my family is continuous. But I think what the misconception is, people think, oh, it's the surrogate's DNA in some kind of way. No, the surrogate is like the oven to bake it in. But all the ingredients are mine and my husband's. We create embryos and that's also a very stressful situation because you are having to do stimulations to get eggs,

fertilize and they need an implantation and all the things. And I've tried, I've done seven rounds of IVF. I'm going into my eighties now. Jesus. Yes, all that just to have a baby. And very expensive. And very expensive and draining, emotionally draining, and it's high risk because when you're injecting yourself with all these things, it puts you at risk for a stroke, heart attack,

you can't work out. That's not, I'm not blaming my stomach pouch on that, but kind of I am a little bit. But it is very like, you know, just emotionally draining and high risk. I mean, women, we go through you know, just emotionally draining and high risk. I mean, women, we go through so much, just the body, like, so the surrogate, I mean, it's expensive and it's all the things, but you know, we do that because we're in love. Is the connection the same?

No, I mean, not not right off the bat. OK, like we'll be lying if I say it was no. When I first got Shiloh, I didn't really get a chance to bond because she went straight into the NICU and it was like, she was on a breathing, you know. It was like- She said she came early.

Yeah, she came early and she was on a breathing machine and then she had like all these surgeries back to back and it was so like just emotional because it was like, is she gonna live? You know, so whereas my first born, it was like I could hold her and bond with her. But now, of course, I'm totally bonded, but I didn't carry her.

So there wasn't that connection. How early was she, did she come? 34 weeks, 34 and a half. Could you bring it down for me? So, like a month earlier. Okay, thank you, all right. And you said you wanna grow your family, so would you do surrogate again,

or are you thinking about doing surrogate again? Yes, I actually gonna do it I've got a new surrogate and I'm just hoping to get her pregnant ASAP No, also the two new castmates, how do you like them? Do you feel like they have long-standing power, or do you think it's one of them that kind of shocked Jox and get out of there? What are your thoughts on that? You said two new castmates.

You got two new. Well, but besides yourself. We got three new. Well, besides yourself. Because you got, no, it's even, no, you got Angela, Britt Eady, Kelly Farrell. OK, three. Yeah.

So three. Yeah. So three. But I'm happy that you said two, because those are the only two I really care about, which are Kelly and Angela. And you just don't like the other one? I don't see a four. Why? Why don't you like her?

She's just not a kind person, you know. But usually the show's like that type of thing. That's how girl groups are. You're not going to get along with everybody, and she's just not my type of thing. That's how girl groups are. You're not gonna get along with everybody and she's just not my type of girl. She said herself she's not a girl's girl. So we can see it for sure. Do you feel like a lot of times those castmates, they try to show things that they're not.

Like when I watch the show sometimes and I'm looking, I'm like, dude. That ain't how you are, exactly. You put it on, put it on the cameras. But I think that our viewers and fans can see that. Like when you ain't being real, it'll come out and everything will be revealed. And that's exactly what's happening.

You can't keep up with your own stories. Say you lost your insurance, then you didn't lose your insurance license. It's like, girl, come on. Damn. Do you feel like the drama associated with reality shows will distract people from all of the amazing things you've ever done in your life? Like the music, the sideline reporting, the cheerleading, you know, just you think?

I don't think so. Because for people who didn't know you and know you did all those amazing things, now this show is kind of defining who we think you are. But see, I love that the show is allowing people to even get to know me and see me. Like I'm getting booked for gigs and roles that I never would have gotten before the show is allowing people to even get to know me and see me. Like I'm getting booked for gigs and roles that I never would have gotten before the show. So, I mean there are ebbs and flows, good and bad in it, but overall for me right now,

the good is outweighing the bad. Gotcha. I ran into Amir Thornton in Atlanta last week, and she's not on Potomac anymore. Possibility that she might be a housewives of Atlanta. So what's your thoughts on that? I welcome anybody that wants to be here. Like, I don't get to make those decisions. Hell, I just got on the show myself.

So if you're asking me if I'm gonna get my spot out for me, I know, sis. But you know, if she's added to- I love the little laugh, like, no, I'm not giving you my spot, no. You can try to take it back, No, it's not going to happen. But yeah, if they find room for her, sure. Hey, girl, come on.

Well, I hope you and Portia figure it out. Me too. Can you make it happen? I mean, you close to Portia, y'all share the same people. Yeah, I just want y'all have them sit down and help us figure it out. Yeah, I feel like that should be so easy, though. It is not.

Because you can't, I mean, from, if you allow other people to just get in your ear about stuff, it's like. I think it's the show. I mean, I don't know this. Of course it's the show. I think it's the show, cause it's one thing when your friend is your friend,

but now your friend is on the show, so you don't know if your friend is using y'all relationship for a storyline. I wouldn't need that. I have so much other story. So much so that where a lot of my story got cut, I've got so much happening in my life. Yeah, because they gonna go with the Salacious stuff.

You know they gonna go with the Juicy stuff. For sure, for sure. Get all that positive shit. Let's talk about you and Portia's beef. Yeah, like I did a whole cheer and dance camp with over 200 girls. Boring. Exactly.

I'm talking about from their girls. Boring. Exactly. I'm talking about from their perspective. Exactly. That's why I never came. That's why you won't see it. You know. But at the end of the day for me

it doesn't do anything for me. That story that's not the type of story I want. Like this is my real friend my real life like and it's a hurtful thing. Did you reach out to her yesterday because she said she posted you.

Yeah we did. We text back. You know she texts congratulations and you, I hope you get everything this season or something like that. And happy birthday. I hope you have something fun planned or something. And I was like, yeah, I'm in New York, you know, hanging out. Thank you so much.

You made the world of me. So that was sweet. And it really didn't make my day. You got you. Now when Portia, when y'all went on her birthday trip in Nashville, right? And she said, I should have fucked that man's husband. What? What was your thoughts?

I should have fucked that man's husband. I fucked that woman's husband, my bad. Oh my God. What is this? It is Atlanta, it is Atlanta. But it is Atlanta though, it is Atlanta. Wow. First of all, Angela is not trans.

She's definitely a woman. So, Charles married a woman. Let's just be clear about that. Jesus Christ. You know, it's funny at the time because we're out there drinking, you know, you kicking it with your friend,

you're not. Like, whatever. They were beefing. So I knew she was being shady when she said it. No, but I don't play about black marriage or bitch marriage period. I want people to stay together. I don't, you know, I wouldn't play about mine.

You know, and I said, of course I'll watch what happens live, that hey, if you can take them, you can keep them. But at the end of the day, no, that's not a laughing matter. Like, and I hate that she said it, but me and Angela weren't friends and her and Angela weren't friends, and she was kiki-ing with me, her friend.

And so we laugh. We laugh about a lot of dark stuff that we shouldn't laugh about. We was joking. We was joking. Portia doesn't want Charles, to be clear. Like, and for those that say, oh, she took somebody. That ain't her thing.

Like, I know her, and that ain't her thing. She didn't want Charles. She don't want Charles. She only wants what's for her, and that's just it. That's just that. Yeah, she don't want Charles. She only wants what's for her and that's just it. That's just that. Yeah, cause that's not fair. That's not fair for beautiful women like Portia to be saying things like that. Cause then when that poor man, you know,

comes to temptation, who's fault is that? You know what I'm saying? I'm just saying. That ain't right. She was joking. I guess she was drinking and joking. She said she was joking, but you know, Angela's defense, I get it girl, I understand why you would be upset,

but you shouldn't be upset with me anymore. I apologize for laughing. I apologize for my shade throwing on her outfit and my part in it. All that other stuff, you gotta take that out with Portia. That ain't got nothing to do with me. This show gonna ruin a lot of great relationships. It has already.

This show's been on for years. I mean, it has. It has. Well, it can only do what you allow it to do. You right? Well, let's move on to positive note. Let's play you a single. So, introduce your single, ladies and gentlemen.

Shemeah Morton, thank you for joining us. Introduce the single. Okay, that's what y'all gotta download. Never has, felt the Atlanta way, N-E-V-A-H-A-D. So, all your digital streaming platforms, because you never had a best friend like me. You never had. You never had, you never had somebody that'll be.

A portion of this record. No. It's a crazy. Stop. You can't discapital P now. It's a portion of this record. It's not a portion. Have you heard it?

No. No. You didn't listen to it? See, I tried to make sure I got it up here, like, because I was like, they ain't gonna do me like, huh? it? No. No. You didn't listen to it? See, I tried to make sure I got it up here, like, cause I was like, they ain't gonna do me like, Coco. Yeah. I didn't even know you did music, so I'm sorry.

See, see what I'm saying? Yeah, yeah. Oh my goodness. I'm sorry. But see, but this is why this show is so great because now you know. And I'm here and I'm about to play it for you. And I want you to tell me what you think about it.

If it's a portion of this record, I would not agree. It is not a portion. Let's get play it for you. And I want you to tell me what you think about it. If it's a Porsche, this record, I would not agree. It is not a Porsche. Let's get into it right now. Ladies and gentlemen, from the Real Housewives of Atlanta, Shamia Morton, her single is out right now. Never had downloaded. Now it's The Breakfast Club. Good morning.

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