The Breakfast Club - INTERVIEW: Swae Lee Talks new Album 'Same Difference', Going Solo, Writing Diamond Record, Kamala Harris + More

Episode Date: April 3, 2026

Today on The Breakfast Club, Swae Lee Talks new Album 'Same Difference', Going Solo, Writing Diamond Record, Kamala Harris. Listen For More!YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@BreakfastClubPower1051FMSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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We got a special guest in the building Yes indeed Ladies and gentlemen Swayley I'm so special so special Welcome back What's up my guy What's up game Morning how you doing

I'm chilling, man, it's early. It's early. Debut's solo album, man. Same difference. Why it took so long from you to drop a solo album? It feels like you should have been dropped a solo album. Man, it's crazy. I think I got a unique career.

Like, nobody ever had a career like that. Bill and string songs, and they're like no album. You know what I'm saying? But it's just like, you know what I'm in a group and shit. So over the years, I just like, every time I was about to drop my solo album, I had it prepared, but it's like I'm with my brother, you know what I'm saying? So I'm spinning the block, I'm spinning the back.

I'm just going to Ray Shimmer, making sure I dropped these Ray Shimmer projects. But I always had them prepared. But now it's just like, nigga had been eight years and I've been telling everybody like, I'm coming soon, you know what I'm saying? Solo, I'm on the way, boom, boom. Drop one unforgettable. Solo album on the way, boom, sunflower, boom. So it's just like, I don't know, it's just crazy timing.

Was you getting too much money, when Mike Will lost all that, Did that affect you? Like, what was it? Definitely been traveling the world since stream, like, one. You know what I'm saying? So no flex on, no type. We've been traveling the world, still performing that. You know what I'm saying?

So, you know what I'm saying? We in Australia, got them. Romania, you know what I'm saying? All these crazy places, just, those songs had such an impact. It's like they kept niggas moving. Yeah. So you already had most of this music already because you said you've been had it, but like.

Oh, yeah, these songs, like, I got songs on there like I did a couple months ago I got songs on there I did a couple years ago you know what I got like it's like a mix of all crazy vibes yeah did you feel to need like did you feel pressure and like

like needing to change something up to match other sounds or did you nah I ain't really matched on like what's going on right now I just kept it really like my sound and just like the songs like I put out like pop songs like trap songs like

party music you know what I'm saying Afro songs. So it's just like a real like a gumbo of all those songs. Yeah. I was gonna ask like that. Lauren wants to

take the gumma. Go get it out of his mouth. No, I'm just gonna hear it like a month for my dad. No, why would I hear? I'm gonna hear you a napkin for it. I'm just being myself and that's how I really is. No, it's just the sound that is for the mics.

He was like, please tell him to take his gum out of his mouth. I mean, I be getting carried away. I mean, I be carried away. Why not? I'm gonna control myself. I'm gonna control myself. I was gonna ask her, what is your sound? Because, you know, listening to the album,

You go Afro beats, you go trap, you go R&B signs, you're singing on some of this. So what is Swaylie sound? I mean, that's part of the same difference. Like, all these are my sounds, you know, so I can do all these sounds if I want to. Like, I'd turn around and do a country song tomorrow, you know what I'm saying? But, yeah, like, all my fans, they come from different demographics. Like, sunflower, boom, that's a whole audience. Black Beatles, you know, no type, all the trap stuff.

that's a whole separate audience. Unforgettable, like, Afro songs, that's a whole separate audience. So I'm just connecting out of dots. I was confused with Unforgettable, right? I heard you know an interview, and you said it was your record that French did, that you didn't necessarily know French put out and did,

but it was your record. So what happened with that record? Basically, I was working on Shrem Life 2. So I had, like, Black Beatles, all that stuff, just about to drop it. And I had made them songs around the same time. time. And, yeah, French heard that song because I was working with Molly Maher and, like, Jeremiah

at the time, all the time. We was always locked in. So the song ended up getting his hands, boom-won. He did a verse. Yeah, he wanted to put it out. But at this time, I'm focused on Black Beatles, boom-moon. But I know it's a smash song, you know what I said? I love this song, too.

It's like, I wanted to get a good look, too. I wanted to put on my album for show. So I made it initially for my album. You know what I said? I brought the Slim Jimmy like, bro. And one of the ones, like, we need to get to get a good. throw us on the album. We're just wrapping up our album.

We're gonna turn it in and shit. Black Beaters was the last song we made for that album. You know what I made that last minute? Buzzard Beater. Boom. So French hired the record. It wasn't like the traditional way, like, you put a song out, like...

In the United States, they stole it. In a way... My son was upset about that, too. It's not really, like, stealing it, but he definitely contacted me. It's like... It's kind of like finessed. Like, he finessed it.

You know what I wouldn't, like, offend it. Like, I'm like, as long as it get his proper look, you know what I'm saying? Like, shoot a video for it, boom. How does somebody finesse you out the record, though? Break that down. No, he's not even finesse me. It's just, like, getting a good look for themselves. Okay, okay.

Like, of course, it's like taking an opportunity and seizing it. Like, you know what I'm saying? Like, if I heard a Michael Jackson record, it's like, it's available, like, shit, I'm going to do it versus, boom, and there's a chance I can get it cleared. You know what I'm saying? You're going to do what you can to get it cleared. It's like, boom, I'm feeling good. I ain't really tripping.

I got 20 of these on my computer, you know what I'm saying? But you didn't write it for French, though. No, I didn't write it for French for show, though. I just wrote it for myself. I sent it to Wiz Kid initially in the beginning. You know what I? So he did a verse for me. But it's like, that's just how everything played out.

Was your name one at first or was it just French Montana at first, right? I don't know if he did it like that. But definitely, you know what I'm saying? My name should be on like the, my face should be on like the artwork. You know what I'm saying? Like, I should have been in the video probably more. You know what I'm saying? like for sure I was a young ass I was like 19 22 or something shit I don't even know

you told friends like you owe me for this one oh yeah man I definitely you know I said co-ferrari's would be nice you know what I mean it went diamond though right I think it's like two times diamond or something maybe Jesus no sunflower two times diamond that giant maybe like it's definitely diamond 13 times 14 times you made money off the record though right well they're making money right now for okay okay this makes a show okay yeah what did you discover about yourself creating when you didn't have to compromise doing music with somebody else, right? Like, because you was in the group at first, but this is the solo album.

So what did you find out creatively about yourself? Lauren, he took the gum out. I hear it. You could have just went and got it out of his mouth a long time ago. You could have been cool. That would have been cool. You see what I'm saying? You're missing your blessing, Lauren.

Every time. Listen, focus on the work we continue. Anyway, what did you discover creatively about yourself doing your solo album that you probably didn't have when you were in the group. Yeah. Or that you probably didn't notice when you were in the group

recording with slam. It's just, I don't know, it's just jumping out there more. It's like, even with the group, I'm still in Ray Schumer, you know what I'm saying? I ain't leaving Ray Schumer or nothing. Like, Ray Schumer, like, that shit's so big. Like, we started challenges, like,

music challenges, people do challenges and songs. So, like, it's like a Jordan brand. You know what I'm saying? Like, Ray. That's like a Jordan 13. Slim Jimmy, like a Jordan 9. You know what I'm like a Jordan 14 or whatever. We all are different Jordan numbers.

So it's like they always going to drop a new season. You know what I'm saying? We're going to keep dropping new season. Like you just can't let that die. So like shout out Slim Jimmy, you know what I'm saying? When you title the album same difference, are you saying you've changed or at your core you're still the same? Like what is the title mean?

Really both. Like all of that. Like, you know what I'm saying? Who I was and got down 20, 23. that's still a version inside of me you know what I'm saying like whether I had growth or whatever it's like it's the same difference you know what I'm also a Gemini too so it's like

they say we see things for like two different perspectives they don't say that they say we two-faced two different people yeah yeah it's fucked up whoever started that about us like it's fucked up do you feel like people boxed you in as like the hook guy so this album oh yeah yeah break out of that perception or just being

the hook guy no I think that's I think that's a great compliment like They call me the hook guy, Captain Hook. You know what I'm running. I'm running with that. I'm continuing the legacy. You know what I'm saying? To do more writing and more of the hooks, or do you prefer being an artist? I mean, you can talk Travis Scott, you can talk Beyonce, you can talk French, you can talk so many different people.

You prefer that part of it, or do you prefer the artist being on stage, people in your business part of it? I mean, I definitely like, yeah, dropping, dropping the smash songs. You know what I'm saying? Putting the face on it, being the face of it. But I don't mind writing it all. You know what I'm saying? Like, for sure, if I just want to get in, I pull up, play about 30 songs, whatever they fuck with. Take it, re-sing it.

And your voice, boom, it's yours. You know what I'm saying? That's always cool. Just getting money like just, you know what I'm saying? Mysterious money, you know what I'm saying? It ain't even too, just not even your face, just people not even knowing you wrote it. And you just, like, receiving money. It's fine.

What's something that you wrote that nobody knows that you don't know you wrote? Really just the form. You know what I'm saying? Formation. A lot of people- You know what I'm saying? Yeah, you know what I'm saying? I'm selling you, man. I got the ladies in formation.

No damn formation. Swin. There's some stuff on that, there's some work on there for real. How that come about? Oh, okay ladies now let's get in formation. Okay. When everybody walk around saying, I'm saying, line up, man, line up.

So when you, it was, Oh shit, that's true. You thought it was lying. No, he was lying before you got crazy. He got it. man. We got GPT. She had that.

It says, Swahley of Hip-Updo, race for a record, co-wrote Beyonce 2016, his formation. Contributing the central hook.

Okay, ladies, now let's get in formation. That's why he kept that part. I'm telling you for ever. Hey, man, you just got a check, that's all. How did that come about?

How did y'all? How did y'all hook up to do that record? Man, that's just Mike Will. Mike Will don't never sleep, man, he'd be working all the time. So, yeah, he's like,

that was an opportunity he just brought to me early, randomly. You know what I'm saying? be trying have you write something on this album I just like damn first it was like damn it seemed like it's like

difficult you know what I'm saying so boom she just heard that shit and just like first I was like damn what I got from Beyonce like I'm thinking of her song to the left to the left like damn what I got like this like boom so for her to just hear that record and just boom we be fucking with it you had to get into like a sassy mindset

like what you were doing like in the studio like what no one time I ain't a lot early on I had an experience like that. Like, they had me come to the studio and, like, write for a female artist. And I'm just, like, totally lost. I'm like, my ass fat. Like, you know what I'm saying?

I'm like, how do I write for a female artist? Say, pussy, so red. Like, you know what I'm saying? I'm in that bitch completely like, like algebra three, I'm in that bitch. God damn, like, how do I do this? Like, you know what I'm saying?

And then, like, the artist ain't telling me, hey, you need to get your shit together. Like you, they didn't really know how I was. They were like, man, you need to get your shit. Because I ain't coming with nothing. I'm like, shit. They're like, you need to get your shit together. Then like a week later, nigga dropped no flex on.

It just skyrocketed. I'm just like. You were just in the studio yelling out my ass fat. I'm just like, I'm just like puzzled like completely lost. Damn, what do girls like? But you got to get into that zone though, right? I don't even say it's really legendary, but it's like, it's kind of embarrassing. It's kind of embarrassing.

It would say it's funny though, but it's embarrassing. If y'all knew an age, y'all laughed like a motherfucker. Who was it? I can't even do it to myself. I mean, I'm going to be careful. You know who did that? I was telling him, you ever heard Cardi be careful? You know, part of the thing.

Yeah, he'd be writing on them girl records. But he had, I remember him on Instagram rapping the record one time. And that shit is like completely from the woman's perspective. It seemed crazy for a prayer to. And even if you go back, Biggie did that for Kim on time. He would have to write Kim's verse. Can you imagine Kim's verse?

Oh, shit. I didn't know that. I didn't know that. Yeah, he'd be doing that. That's dope. You gotta get into that zone though, right? Yeah, now I could do it, for sure. But like, coming in the game, just like, surprise, like, when you were, you been writing, like, dude's songs your whole life and he's like, they're writing a female artist.

She's like, ah, shit. You know what I'm saying? It can be hard. But that's a different one, though, because Beyonce, because that became an anthem, it still is, like, women getting in formation. Yeah. That's a different type of mindset to even think like that. Like, what made you even come up with that? Yeah.

I just be trying to say like different stuff that nobody said. That's fun and just makes sense. And then it was a lot of pressure because it's Beyonce. And she's not all raunchy and, you know, all my ass, pay, pussy wet. Yeah, yeah, right, right. Did they, well, first, it was a freestyle session, so you came with nothing and we just figured it out right there than there. Right, right. And I was just, I was just rapping some hardship on the beat, you know what I wasn't really trying to think of it.

What does this girl need? Like, just like, let me make a banger. and then let her reset. That became my new thing. And then whatever she, whatever she'd tweak and edit to make it more personal for her, she can do that,

or her daughters can do that. Did you put your hand on your hip while you were recording it? That probably would have helped a little bit. And I didn't know. You know, when you were Gemini, the two-faceded reputation that the Gemini stems from the symbol

because it's the twins. It represents a dual nature. Yeah, exactly. Duality. personality yeah right right and intense versatility which is clearly you exactly versatility yes and you can adapt like to any situation it's just like exactly same difference one jiminaeke oh yeah how did you when a jane a equal relationship come together every i love you on her songs i even like the song uh mural that you have on her on oh yeah that's fine so y'all heard the whole album and shit

yeah yeah they said it to we we finally got in to listen to yeah that's hard that It reminds me of like that genre, the same drama, genre that Sunflower was in. I like that type of music. Yeah. How did you and Jane develop your relationship? Um, damn. It me and Janay, man, Shah Janay, she's a megastar, like, you know what I'm saying? She's like, she's like a goddess or something, you know what I'm saying?

But I met her way back in the day we did Sativa. Yes. You know what I'm saying? Real quick. 30 minutes. Boom. Classic. So, boom, when I was making this album, I was just thinking like, damn, what artist, like, could I really, like, put on this album where it makes sense sonically?

And I was just thinking, like, I was listening to that song. And then I was like, I had a show and I was just realized like, damn, Sativa, like, one of them classes. Like, the girls, like, they love Sativa. Like, boom, it's like, they really vibe with that song. So I was like, damn, let me hit you nail. Like, I hear on this song. It was different. It was like, like you say, it's like a more pop record.

So that's a different world for us. I was like, boom, I could just imagine her on that junk. And then boom, I sent it to her. Two days later, she sent me the birds back. Just, yeah. Because y'all definitely makes sense when y'all collect. Yeah. It's like a complete package.

It's dope. Peanut butter jelly. You know what I'm saying? Peanut butter jelly. For real. I want to do a whole, like, project with Shardie. That'll be fired. For real.

Yeah. We just did that video, too. We just shot the Miro video. Oh, for Miro. That's dope. We should drop that tomorrow. Okay. You ever felt like you could have been an R&B singer?

Oh, definitely. I'll be in my R&B, like, that's what I'm saying. Like, now, like, that I'm dropping projects. I'm going to definitely take them more into, like, show them, like, what I really do. Like, I do, you know what I got the R&B stuff for the girls, for the players too, you know what I'm saying? I got, yeah, I got that.

So even on this album, raising awareness, that was kind of like some R&B stuff, you know what I'm saying? The level of global success you've achieved with, like, record, like, unforgettable and Sunflower, Did that change how you view like your career ceiling? Even writing records like Beyond the Information, seeing how big goals like you get. Yeah, it just, it just, it's possible, you know what I'm saying?

Like, I'm like a hood pop star, you know what I'm saying? Like, so definitely making those records, kicking those doors in. It just made a new lane for myself, you know what I'm saying? So definitely I'm going to keep dropping those type songs, like stadium songs. Songs that sound like they belong in movies, you know what I'm going to keep. You know what I'm saying? Keep doing that for sure. Do you chase those trends, like the Black Beatles trends?

And do you try to chase that? Like, we need to create something around it, or is it just something that happens naturally? Yeah, it's really something that happened naturally. Like, you can, like, I ain't even start that challenge. Like, the fans, that's what they did when they listened to the song. It's just like, that's what it inspired them to do. So it's like, definitely like, you know what I'm saying?

You know what I'm saying you drop. Like, they're going to do some craziest record. Like, you hope they're going to do some crazy challenges. to it for sure because that shit gonna push it to number one, you know what I'm saying? But if they don't, it's cool, too. Like, how long they still enjoy it? I just saw you somewhere

doing the challenge recently. It was a school. Oh, yeah, yeah, I did a little run. I was going to the HBCUs. So I went to Morehouse, and I went to North Carolina Central, and then I went to NYU and did a seminar like yesterday. But, yeah, Morehouse and Spelman, they was going up.

Did it shock you that they still vibe to those records like that? It's crazy, yeah, to me, it's crazy because the challenge is like 10 years old. So now it's just like something fun to do to the song. It's like it's dope the way it aged. You know what I love the way it age. Did you lose music with Mike Will lost all that music when he got his hard drive stolen? I had lost a hard drive too, yeah, and I was like, but I recovered it.

I was about to actually drop an album too, like an EP then, like stolen hard drive EP. It was crazy. I don't know if I see on the ground, well, this dude was going live with my hard drive, boom. How did he get it? Like from the airport or some shit, like, boom. Like going through the airport, some crazy shit, boom. You took it out your bag or something? I don't even remember how it happened.

It was like, we were losing your hard drive, way. It's like, we'd be going through the airport. We got all about it. On that gas, yeah. 98% chance, yeah. How does that make you feel when that happens? Like, you feel like, ugh, like I'm about to throwing a towel. I've been working so old on all this shit, and this nigga on live listening to my shit.

No, that shit, it'll piss you off for sure. Yeah. But it's like, hopefully you got it backed up on. another hard drive. My engineer, I got one of the best engineers in the world. He usually back it up on, like, I cloud and the hard drive. So, a lot of it is recoverable, you know what I'm saying? But

that's never a good feeling. I lost a couple laptops. Somebody in Switzerland, like, found your laptop, boom. I see all your sessions right here. I know this is yours boom, like, I want to get it back to you boom. But you got to pay this much? That too, yeah. On God.

You ever have a paid to get your laptop back? Hell yeah, I pay for that shit, too. That's a billion dollars on that motherfucker. What's the most you need? I mean, I ain't really had to say. I ain't even never paid a dude, but I mean, I got a fine dude. I got to track them down and shit. The one that got the hard drive now?

No, we got that. We got that back. It's computer in Switzerland. Somebody hit me on WhatsApp. At the laptop, boom. That nigga, DJing your shit right now. Man, God, re-singing all my stuff. How did you get in your laptop?

That's like my early day laptop. It was just new, you know what I'm saying? Open it right up. Open it up. Yeah. Get in it. Boom. password probably

AAAA, some easy shit. You know what I'm saying? Now the Afro beat song on the same difference. Sada, right? Did you, yeah, Sada. Did you sample Young Blue Mine? Mine still that?

Did you use the, because it's like in the background. They say time hills. That's what I feel like I heard. Oh, Fav. Or Sada? No, it wasn't. It had to be Fav.

It said the beginning of the album, the first Afro beat song on it. It's like guitar? Yeah, yeah. And that's what you have. I ain't know that was a sample. It's probably not, and don't you better not say it is. I'm God, I ain't paying no percentages.

I'm just sad. I already handled the percentages, man. I ain't trying to go to. I thought he may have sampled it, but no, he could have just... Yeah, I hope not. I don't think I did. I hope not. That's what I heard.

For real, because I don't... What was your process? I got to look into that now. I ain't a lot. For real. What was your process of like figuring out what songs would go on this project? Because you got songs from like the Sunflower Days, like older music, right? So I'm assuming there.

There's been a lot of music since then. So what's the elimination process like? That's, yeah, for sure. Very true. It's crazy. Like, yeah, I got a song with Post Malone we did from back in the day. And then it's like, boom, yeah, just finding songs that are cohesive and make sense together. And still, like, different genres.

That was a crazy process. And I just sat down, like, the whole month just, boom, playing records and seeing if they made sense together. And this was like, yeah, this was the combo. I just came up with. But nothing sounds old on the project, though. That's what's crazy. Timeless music. Yeah, like, they're so timeless.

That's what I chose. I made sure, like, they still sound like, you know what I'm saying? Up to date. You know what I'm saying? I feel like that about the, when you were with your brother too, like the whole rich room and, like, it's timeless. You can play it anywhere in any area and it is still slap.

Thank you. So you said y'all, y'all still together. Y'all got, y'all working on music too? You won't get in an audition now? Oh, yeah, for sure. like, I'm just going on a run right now. You know what I'm saying? I got so much music.

I just be in the studio like, they're in the area every day. You know what I'm saying? So I'm just making like five, six songs a day. So even like over Corona, nigger made so many songs, it's just like, got to put these shets out, you know what I'm saying?

How you know what to keep for yourself, though, and to give to other people? I just let that shit happen organically. You know what I'm saying? Whatever don't go out, when it's time to drop, you know what I'm going to drop or somebody else can use it.

They don't like, nobody like it. I love that shit. Do you pull up and play sessions for people, though? Like, I'll pull up. I pull it, just press play. Mm-hmm. Sure. Like, um, I cook up some new shit with a nigga, too,

like with an artist or whatever. But yeah, I just really pull up with the hard drives, play some vibes. Just see what makes sense, see what they like. What would this piece look like for Swately in this chapter of your life? How old are you now? Yeah, 22.

What is it? No. What are you talking about it? You're like 32. You were like 13. I mean, it's on you. No, I'm like, I'm 32. Okay.

Yeah, I'm 32. I might be 33 my birthday in June 7. But hold on. What this piece look like for you? Oh, yeah, peace. Oh, yeah, peace. Peace. Shit, day off, you know what I'm saying?

Getting a massage, goddamn. About an 80 minute massage. Just chilling, just chilling. Literally not doing nothing. Sitting in my crib, walking in my backyard, playing the PlayStation or something. Do you get an opportunity to do that often?

Do you get the opportunity to enjoy? In between movies, yeah. In between activities. You know what I'm saying? You got to take the time, sit down, sit yourself down for sure. How has fame, like, impacted your relationships, like with family, you know, women, or just even how you trust people nowadays?

paranoid, fucked up, for sure. Because you never know people's intentions, for sure. So definitely got to be on your P's and Q's. Even like relationship, like, motherfuckers would be looking at the wrong way. Like, I got to have a girlfriend, boom, go somewhere. Honey, girls in my face, you know what I'm saying? She's going to look at it a certain way.

Like, even if they're fans or not, it's like, she's going to feel some type of way. So it's like, you know what I'm saying? It can't affect your relationship. But you got to understand. I feel like should be small. Should be small.

Have you found a woman that you trust and can trust you? I thought I did. You know what I'm saying? I got a little shardie. She's five, she's five. You know what I'm saying?

She'd get crazy too. You know what I'm saying? You just never know. How do you know she want to be with you for you and not because of... Just never know. Yeah, yeah.

Just never know. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Did you have to have a conversation with you? or was there a conversation with Jimmy before you decided to step away and do your own solo album?

It was always a thing like he know I'm just like we know each other like I'm just like pressing the gas like nothing stop just, you know what I'm saying dropping and just making songs and just doing stuff. We're moving at our own speeds

and yeah I don't know it's like really understood Yeah. He's doing my thing. He ruled for me. Yeah, I'm rude for him. Whatever he do. When we come together, we link up like the backstreet boys.

You know what I'm saying? We just turning up. How was his support for the album? I think he fucked with it. Yeah. So Mad Lake me. We're posting our line showing mad love. And then he's working on his project too.

So after me, Slim Jimmy project. You know what I'm saying? When you were in school, right, you were diagnosed with ADHD, right? No, no. He did the ADHD. You did the ADHD anthem. Yeah, the ADHD, yeah, yeah.

I ain't never took the test, though, but I just did that. I'm not, I'm not. I just like, I know my brain work different. I just know my brain work different. And it's people who think they got ADHD and it's like, you know what I'm saying? This is the people who think different. They say people usually get, you know, super hyper-focused on things.

Exactly, exactly. The fact that you are such a genius when it comes to people, It's creative. I wonder if that was a, yeah, very creative. You're creative. You probably hear beats in your head all the time, hear hooks in your head all the time. Your voices, bro.

You see what I'm saying? You see what I'm saying? For real. No, fuck it was. I believe you. I don't think there's anything wrong with that. I think God talk to people. Two Chainsets put out a book called The Voice in My Head is God.

I think that when you're a creative person, you do you need a whole voices. That's real. That's real, too. And when you hear them, you write them down, and then record them and they become hits. They translate it. He's late the hits, for real.

That's crazy. What did God tell you this morning? Before you rolled up. He told me, he said, Sway, you got to get up. I know you're a lunch club type of nigger, but it's the breakfast club. You got to get up, get you some caffeine and get up.

Yeah. Is this the part of the game that you don't like? What? Having to go out here and sell the music? I ain't going to lie, bro. When I first came on breakfast, at that time, I ain't really understand it. And I ain't really like, I had to get used to it.

Like, waking up early, like, that's so difficult to me. Like, waking up early, like, especially after a long night. So it's like, now I'm used to it. Boom, like, you got to get up and chop it up. You got to pop your shit. It could be cold as fuck. Like, New York, be cold. You know what I'm saying?

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I'm prepared for anything. Boom. They said you hated Kamala Harris. Is that true? I was ready for that. I wanted you to ask me that too that's a great question to ask and I wanted to clear that up too for sure

I don't hate Kamala Harris I don't love no politician though because think about it if you was the president like it should be easy to get like people a sense of relief you know what I'm saying like at the time

like I just didn't agree with some of the genders that were being put out boom but like I ain't never announced my solidarity with no politician. Some people they don't want Trump support.

I'm like, you ain't never see me with no MAGA hat nothing, you know what I'm saying? I don't support really no politicians. Like, because I do my research, you know what I see what they're really going to do for the people. Like, what are they going to do that's going to affect my everyday life? Like, I don't really think there's ever been a president of history that really made an impact on our everyday life. You know what I'm saying? Right now, as we speak. I mean, when you go to.

A positive impact. Oh, positive way. No, I mean, like when you think about, you know, Lyndon B. Johnson with the Civil Rights Act in 1964, you know, giving black people to right to vote, giving women to write to vote. That's fire. Yeah, stuff like that.

That's fire. Like, it's rare. I say that it's rare. But you put in common, you know, don't vote for Kamala Harris. People just assume that. Right, right. It's only two kids.

Because I didn't, I didn't denounce my, I didn't denounce, like, Trump and shit either. But do not vote for Kamala. It's public. It's public everything on that. This is a new campaign. candidate. That's what I was like, Kamala's boon. Don't think it's just like Disneyland. You know what, so you got to look at what this person is pushing. You know what I'm saying?

And looking back, well, right now, it's like, shit fucked up, you know what I'm saying? Like, I can't see the future. Like, I don't know this nigga Trump going to get here and do that all this shit either. Like, but he already, he already showing itself as like a, you know what I'm saying. He already got a lot of negative headlines on his name. You know what I'm saying? This is no surprise with him. I don't got to speak about that. You know what I'm saying? Everybody already got their opinions on that. But boom, this new person is like, just make sure you agree with everything this person trying to do.

Make sure you know who they back by. I don't want to say too much. You know what I'm saying? Getting myself, get myself for some other shit. But boom, you feel me? Yeah. Did you get paid to post that? Hell no.

But speaking of, like, I could have got paid by Trump, everything. I turn that shit down. I ain't standing with that shit either. Like, I don't want people think I'm standing with none of that shit. Like, I don't, I'm looking for it. a real political candidate that's going to bring some real positive change, you know what I'm saying? And it's rare.

Like I said, I ain't never seen a good politician. Even on a local level? There's definitely, here the thing. I don't, you know, Nina Turner. I don't really on a local level, yeah. I don't really. There's a woman named Nina Turner, and she always says, you know, you may not do politics, but politics is going to do you.

For sure. Literally every single thing that we do, every single day is rooted in some type of legislation that somebody creates. Yeah, one evil is. worse than another. It's always a worse or villain. You know what I'm saying? But I don't know what you said. It's always somebody worse.

Yes. But I'm just saying that I'm talking about politics. Everything we do every day there's a piece of legislation that impacts it in some way, shape, or form. That's what I'm saying. For sure. Like, definitely like, I probably shouldn't have said that statement, though, for sure. I'm not even speak on politics.

You know what I'm saying? How much did Trump offer you? And did he offer it to you after? And I know it wasn't Trump himself. But he's somebody. The administration, yeah, of course, they offered money. One before, one after, you know what I'm saying? Like to go perform at this and perform at that.

You know what I'm saying? It's like, yeah, I ain't taking that. You know what I don't support necessarily that either. You know what I'm saying? So they offered you money before the tweet. I like what Trump did with the taxes. But it's like all this other stuff is fucked up. You know what I'm saying?

Taking the black literature out of, you know what I'm saying? Curriculum and all that stuff. like so it's like damn like all these people like doing fucked up shit you know what I'm saying if I was the president I know what I would do for the people I had a man it'd be sunny for everybody you know what I wouldn't be sending billions of dollars overseas I had this shit right here you know what I'm saying at the source like we fucked up in America like and we need to start taking care of like America first I agree and then you know what I'm saying all the other stuff but it's like it's really simple so I was just like I just wanted people to like had their eyes open and just

really know what they've voted for like candidate seems sweet and it's like it's not really that sweet when you dig until you're like you're gonna see policies you don't agree with you know what I'm saying

so I'm just trying to keep people safe and basically just open people's eyes at the end of everybody got their own opinion too like vote for who you want to vote for love who you want to you want to say boom

all that but I would just making sure people are aware of everything like so it's like yeah I agree with that like you shouldn't blindly vote

for people right just because you think they someone know who you know who you're you put do not vote for Kamala. Yeah, yeah.

That's what people assume that you were riding for Trump. Yeah, I get that. Like, if I could go back, I would probably reworded a little bit. I wouldn't even say it. I wouldn't even spoke about politics.

I just would have. Then you shit it on Delaware. I should. Oh, yeah, for sure. I stand on that. She from Delaware. Yeah, I'm from there. But would you say Biden represents you?

He's one of the people. But I understand your comments that represent Delaware. Who? But he don't do good shit. So I understand the comments Really impactful shit. You guys were saying the same thing about Biden.

He was saying how he was upset that people were just letting Biden just like be asleep at the wheel. Yeah, because he controlled. He controlled by somebody. He's back. He controlled. I wasn't mad at you saying that.

He was a puppet. I didn't think that that was something you shouldn't have. I know you were trying to clear up the common of stuff when you said that, but I didn't think that was bad. Right. It was like, people didn't like the delivery, but it was a positive message behind it. But it came out as a negative message.

Like, I get it. Like, you know what I'm saying? But yeah, definitely like, Biden, like, let's think about when he was in the office. Life was shit, you know what I'm saying? He ain't really do nothing good for niggas, like, sleeping and shit, you know what I'm saying? On dialysis down there, I'm like, you know what I'm saying?

But, yeah, I ain't, you know what I'm saying? Yeah, yeah, but let me not get too deep into that shit. I do want to know how much they are, because there's a lot of people. We know that the Trump campaign pays a lot. I think, yeah, one time, one time was like 90 bands just to come perform or something. Wow. You know what I'm saying? But all money ain't good money.

And it's not good money. And I don't support that. You know what I'm saying? And I ain't want people to think. It's going to look. I'm supporting it. Oh, he's Trump supported. Nah, I got things, you know what I'm saying?

I would do differently. You know what I'm saying? That really fucked me up when he, like, taking the slave shit out the curriculum and all that. It's like a lot of things. But, yeah, I'm just somebody who do my research. How do we know you ain't take that money to post that combo of tweet?

Because you would have seen me with a mega hat on too. They wanted you to wear the hat. That was part of it? I mean, you know, that would have been part of the contract. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And on Tuesday, post with the MAGA hat, you know what I'm saying? Like, it's just, you don't see me doing that. You know what I'm saying?

Like, you don't see me, you would have seen me actively at the White House with Trump. Performing. Yeah, you know what I'm saying? I'm shaking hands, you know what I'm saying? I don't agree with no politician, you know what I'm saying? I'm waiting for a real politician that's going to make some real actual change in our life. You know what I'm saying? Not just somebody going to smile and make it look good, you know what I'm saying?

Do y'all still perform up like Trump? No, I don't even perform it now. It's crazy. It's crazy. I can't be performance, man. Nigger, it's like, it's too political. And it's like, I might have been the reason bro ran for president.

Like, I made that song before he was even, you know what I'm saying? He might have heard that shit and just, I can do this. You know what I'm saying? I'm like Trump, yeah. But now I don't perform that shit at all. Damn. People get. Go ahead.

My man, my man. What did you bet? Was the performance offer that you got for the 90,000? Was that the inauguration or was that for something else? It was like one for the inauguration. I think like one for the inauguration. I think like one. for when he made it or like he was just running around the country still

campaigning. So the second one had to be out of here. The first one was 90. Facts. I ain't really looking too. I just, I know I couldn't do it. I'm just like,

I'm not doing that. He's a really good kid. He's a really good kid. You love that swag. No type is my type. No type is my type. You know, I wanted to ask, when you came up here a long time ago, you talked about the woman that left you.

for a truck driver before you blew up. Damn. That shit like... Did you ever reach out back out to you? Hell. See, man, that's what I learned from that shit,

bro. I should have finished that story. Like, niggas think I'm just like, sap-ass, nigger, a girl left for a truck driver. Nah,

it wasn't even... It's like... This is like... Let me... Let me... Yeah, this is like... I'm a ninth-grade nigger working at McDonald's.

Just husband is a truck driver. First of all... That's good money. I didn't say 12-bant-old. That's great money. I didn't bring him here. Go ahead you now. You told him

He was up there. Damn, for real. Yeah, he is. He is. And he's truck drama. Yes, he is. And he's black. And black.

He hates that you supported Trump. What? I ain't, I ain't support Trump, though. He did not say. Yeah, I ain't support Trump. He ain't

Mexican though. I ain't support nobody. Anyway. But, um, let's just a little shit, boom. I'm fucking this little John. She a vibe. Like, boom.

My fucking high school crush, boom. Bad little John. She's like two grades older than me. Boom. She's about to graduate like a year or two. Bagged her. Boom. I'm walking over to a crib right day

and a small little shardie. I'm working at McDonald's. I got an apartment. No furniture in the bill. I'm paying for the bills. All my money going today. I got light bills. 15, me and my brother, you know what I'm saying?

So I'm going to school. So he did some high school shit. Like, Shardie, boom. Yes, she broke up me, boom. Boyfriend out of high school, boom. He got them driving trucks. He getting good money. Twelve bands.

I'm getting shit. Minimum wage. Whatever. Boom. Broke up with her. Shottie got down. Two, three weeks later, got down. Swam, I miss you, booze.

Driving the nigger car over to my shit. Wow. To my crib with no furniture. Parking her shit at his shit at my shit. You know what I'm saying? I'm driving his shit to the grocery store, you know what I'm saying? It's my, she missed a real nigga, you know what I'm saying? But I ain't even want her back at that point.

This is like, but that's another story. I shouldn't even told that shit. The motherfucker took that shit and just be posting it every week. All to tell. Swate girlfriend. and leaving for a truck driver. I'm like, man, that shit. Lame is that?

She still hit you? She still hit me yet, for sure. She knows it. She knows it dead. I mean, what I was that? But Shottie cool. She taught me a lot. I learned a lot from that shit.

Did that make you want to go get your CDL? That shit. That shit, man, that shit made me go to Atlanta. Like, I really ain't had nothing to come back to Mississippi before. Like, I moved to Atlanta, locked in for, like, two years. It ended up, like, blowing up, too. So it's like, all that shit was, like, written. And that was my story.

Yeah. I'm glad she left. You know what I'm saying? Hell, yeah, I would have been locked in, too locked in. Glad she left me early. I'm boom. I ain't got nothing to stay and miss it before hit the road. You know what I'm all that.

What's been the hardest part about, like, maintaining relevance in this era? Because, you know, everybody's attention spans short. Like, the fact that people even still care about y'all after all of this time says a lot. It says a lot, for sure, for sure. And I'm very grateful, you know what I'm saying? I'm grateful. blessed because i didn't seen it happen a lot of times like niggas gone niggas here today gone tomorrow

for real that they six months you know what's saying six months hit i think it's just niggas blessed you know what i'm saying like all the songs aged well with people um even like the research of 2016 again and everybody playing the music again it's like like really playing the music all the old shit you know what i'm saying um and i think it's like i was lucky enough to get those those songs that really connected with people like Like them unforgettable, them sunflowers, like them black beetles. Yeah. Like them, you know what I'm saying?

They really grew up with people. So I think it's that and just staying active, you know what I'm saying? Staying cooking up. Not getting comfortable. You know what I'm saying? For sure. Y'all do really good business deals too, like collaborations like Chopol-A. Oh, yeah.

On the business side, is that you guys like, hey, we want to do brand stuff or is the labor or somebody bringing it to you? Definitely. I'm on that. Like, I'm trying to be like on my heart. Walmart shit, you know what I'm saying? Like, still turn, still doing cool shit. Well, I'm trying to fuck with you at the Walmarts and, you know what I'm saying? All these type brands.

Yeah, for sure. That's what's tough. What was one lesson you learned the hard way in the music industry? Don't speak on certain shit. I can't tell. I mean, they want to kill you if you have an opinion these days. It's crazy. Yeah.

But yeah, shit. Just don't even say it. type it. Hang your ex off. Send your Twitter. Put it in the music. Yeah, put in the music. Put in the music. I'll make a song, do your research. The solo album is out today.

Yes, indeed. What you want to hear after that one? What you want play? Let's play that suitcase with French Montana. A suitcase feature in French Montana. It's Swade Lee, ladies and gentlemen. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning. Hey, wait, yo. Why are you think I'm still going to be mad though?

I Because it's such a sensitive topic Just because Trump in the office right now Fucking shit out So I just told him I don't fuck with Trump though Yeah but they feel like you I'm the reason why Trump is Yes

All right hold on They feel like I'm one of the reason why He's in office guy Yeah Hold on you ready They still gonna be mad at you though Sway Lee Because they feel like you're responsible For getting Trump in office

Because you literally told a generation Of people not to vote for Trump Even though that's a lot of responsibility to put on one person. I'm going to say, damn, they only speak for political advice. You said, do not vote for Kamala. Yeah, at the time, you know what I'm saying?

I disagree with it, but I definitely will retract that statement. Too late now. He's in office. Trump's in office. He's in office. He's not in office because of Swahy Lee.

Yeah, people not taking my political advice, you know what I'm saying? It's like, that's just my opinion. You know what I'm saying? Like, at the time, it's like, they still going to vote for who they saw fit, you know what I'm in so I hope they still went to the polls and just did exactly what they wanted to do like that was just I was just like seeing some shit that just like rub me the wrong way

did you vote now I didn't vote I didn't vote I didn't vote I didn't I know who could I vote for so what policies have I'm not voting for Trump that you didn't vote that you got on Twitter like what was it and you that shit just had me all fucked up like damn like why we got shitty candidates Like that shab me fucked up like that. Like, I'm just like, I don't want the blue pill or the red pill. You know what I'm saying? So that was me personally. But yeah, everybody can do what they want to do.

Like, have your own opinion, whatever you like, go for it. You know what I'm saying? Like, me personally, I'm just, I was just seeing too much shit. I'm just like, damn, bro. I don't agree with either one of these people, you know what I'm saying? But did you talk to anybody? Like, did you talk to anybody, you know, that actually has knowledge of politics? That you could have said, yo, man, tell me,

why I should vote for Kamala or tell me why I should vote for Trump or tell me why I shouldn't vote for Kamala that would have probably been a good conversation but I just I just started doing my own research like just looking and just Googling yeah Googling no Googling yeah actual like policies

what policies upset you it's gonna upset people if I even say it and it's looking into it it could have been propaganda you know what I'm saying so that's what I'm saying like I wouldn't even like going back I wouldn't even spoke on that You know what I'm saying? But definitely it's no better now.

Like what's going on right now is like, it's fucked up, you know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? You know what type of different ways? You know what I'm saying? I never even stood with Braith. I never expressed my solidarity with Braith or Trump either, you know what I'm saying? But you're going to so ill, a lot of the things that's happening now, if you listen to Kamala when she was the vice president and she was running,

she told us exactly what was going to happen. She told us exactly what Trump was going to do when he got in office, and he's doing it. She said that? Yes. There's montages of literally her explaining everything, like, you know, from, I mean, literally everything, from legislation to, you know, the wars, everything. Like, she's explained it all. No, I feel that's real. That's real.

I don't really. No. Yeah, I don't really. You don't know what you were talking about. I got to do more. I'm going to do research, like more research. Next time. Yeah.

Next time you're just not even going to post about it. Not even going to talk about it. You notice the midterms coming up this year. You're going to see me actively campaigning the streets. I might run for president's shit. Who you campaigned for? But Democrats or Republicans? Yeah.

I don't know. I'm not telling you to pick a side. I'm just saying, like, you know. All I would say is next time, just talk to somebody that actually knows what they're talking about. That can tell you, you know, why you should be voting. for this person or why you shouldn't be voting for that. Right, back statements, yeah, like real actual facts. Because there's so much misinformation online.

Right, right. And it could have been misinformation that was seeing. That's what I'm like, you know what I'm saying? I probably shouldn't have spoke on it, for sure. And the only thing you can do now is, you know, if you feel like you want to apologize, apologize, and just, you know, do better next time. But everybody's going to be like, nah, man,

you might have cost us democracy. No, not me. Not me. I'm not the nigger that's at these rallies, you know what I'm saying, performing and doing all this. I'm just a nigga that. told people open your eyes

through your research and make an educated vote that's basically what I'm saying but you didn't even make an educated tweet I did uh no you didn't you said you didn't know what was really going on you said that you got information that probably was propaganda it could I said it could have been propaganda

but it could have been true as well but I don't want to speak on it because it's a sensitive topic yeah you know I know record as a DA was that it was what people were pushing this whole narrative around her record when she was a DA in California was that oh it was like all the, like, laws that basically, like, oppressed black people, like, laws against black people,

like the weed, shit, all that shit. It was just, like, hell of shit, I was just seeing. And just endorsing Tim Watts, it's just like... You didn't like Tim Wall? Hell, no. I didn't like him as a... Yeah, I got kids. I got kids and shit, so I'm just like...

I don't like certain shit being pushed on them. You know what? Like what? I know what it is. I don't even want to talk to Swinley about that. Yeah, he get it. We had a telepathy moment. Yeah, I know.

Yeah, yeah. And I ain't getting that. But I don't want that shit around my kids. I'm just telling you there's no winning. There's no winning. That's what I'm saying. I don't even like, that's why I'm saying. Everybody had their own opinion.

Don't be mad at me. I'm just telling people open your eyes, look into stuff. You know what I'm saying? Even me. I can't open my eyes and look at it. But they're going to say you didn't open your eyes and look at you. They're going to say that. They're going to say that.

For sure, for sure. And that's their opinion. And I don't want to kill them for that. You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm open to have any conversation. You know what I'm saying? I can be persuaded. You know what I'm saying?

I'm a person that love information, you know what I'm saying? So definitely open my eyes. I can see things like different ways, you know what I'm saying? Like show me the facts. My eyes can be open too. You know what I'm saying? Like at the time, though, that's just how I was feeling. You know what I'm saying?

I ain't, I'm with the people. I want positive change for the people. I'm standing with the people. You know what I'm saying? Like I want them to get. get a sense of relief. That's what I'm just searching for. You know what I'm saying? Like, motherfuckers send a billion dollars to another country. Shit like that just pissed me off. You know what I'm saying? Like, when I go to my city,

my city, I grew up in the slums. Like, it's niggas, they're they need this billion dollars. You know what I'm saying? So, you know what I'm saying? I want the exact same people. I want the exact same thing the average American was, you know what I'm saying? All right. Tell us about this record you wrote for Chile featuring Nikki Minaj. Which one? Oh, I thought you wrote the record. Did you do that? Chili, Nicky and I was.

Which way? What the hell is that? Don't worry about it. All right, ladies. April fools, like April fools? You only know what they did. Oh, but. Well, y'all niggas hell.

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