The Breakfast Club - INTERVIEW: Swayvo Twain On Losing His Parents; Angie Stone & D'Angelo, Music & Artistry, Questlove +More

Episode Date: December 10, 2025

Today on The Breakfast Club, Swayvo Twain On Losing His Parents; Angie Stone & D'Angelo, Music & Artistry, Questlove. Listen For More!YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@BreakfastClubPower1051FMSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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We are the Breakfast Club. belong on the roses here as well we got a special guest in the building yes indeed we have swayvo twain welcome brother what's good everybody how you feeling i'm feeling blessed man i'm feeling man thank y'all for having now for people that don't know you are the son of angie stone and d'angelo yes sir so first we'll say you know sending out condolences and well wishes and everything how you doing now how you feeling man uh i thank you for the condolences but uh man they are they're in a better place than me man they ain't paying no bills no more they're good man they're but I'm good man just taking the uh moment by moment for real every day is a different day

different emotion i'm sure yeah it'd be it'd be someday is better than others for sure but we still pushing man we still pushing when i think about you man i think about you know you had you had two you know legends as parents right yes yes sir when did you first realize that that wasn't normal uh in school like kindergarten for real like i was always type i ain't never really really tell people in school, like I just go to school and just be Mike. But if I get in trouble or anything and my mama has to come up to the school, like the teacher would be on a seat my parents, so she know who she is. But she's going to wait to, in front of the whole class, be like,

is such and such a your mama? And I might say yes, I might say no. And then, like, the whole class or no, and then they're going to ask their mama, and it just be a whole little thing. So, yeah, that's when I realized that. How was growing up? Did you grow up, I don't want to say normal, because you had two iconic stars

where you were always on the road. How was growing up with? No, it was normal at times. So, like in my earlier years, I went with my mom. Like, I was, you know, with grandma, so I was in Columbia, South Carolina. 803 to met. Yeah, for sure, 100%.

And, you know, my mama came and got me from Columbia when I was about 12 or 13 and moved me to Atlanta. So when I first moved to Atlanta, that was like a super culture shock. I'm like, yeah, everybody out here got money. Like, we stayed right, like, two those down for Pac-Man Jones, and he was terned. So it was normal, but I tried to be as normal as I could.

But then when people started figuring it out, it was just doing extra stuff, you know. You went back to Columbia. Did you go to USC or am I triven? No. Oh, okay, okay, okay. I go back to Columbia just to visit. I probably got like a three-day limit.

In Colombia. What's one lesson your father taught you about, like, artistry, and then one lesson your mother taught you about discipline? My daddy, like, we never really, sometimes we would discuss, like, music notes and music theater, but we didn't really discuss stuff like that. He really put me on, like, mindset things. Like, this is how you need to be with your business.

This is how you need to be with your team. Like, this is how you need to be with your team. your mental when you get overwhelmed things like that and my mama she ain't have to show me nothing like I seen it like my mama she like she'll be in the hospital

and get out the hospital that night and go to go do the show and nobody know you know what I'm saying she was a real soldier gangster so she didn't have to say nothing I was watching I was living with her and I saw your video that you posted on your Instagram and you just

well first of all I just want to say watching you speak at their funerals it you just there's still like such a joy there or something that I didn't understand I've never been through what you've been through but I don't know if you can kind of like talk us through when we're seeing you you're like making everybody laugh and you're with your family and it's the push-ups and y'all just having a good time I'm like how is he able to you know do that for everybody in a situation he's in I mean that's that's my personality like um I'm not a complainer you know what I'm not like a a a always me guy and I'm always trying to like bring the vibes you know what I'm saying so in a moment

like this when everything be morbid and dark like I'm going to make everybody laugh right you know what I'm saying because that's how my mom was like she was so funny like she she's the funny person you know but she ain't telling no jokes you know so I just I just always try to keep it like man you know even at funeral's like you know not for nothing a funeral be for the living. They're going to be for the dead because they're gone already. So, you know, let's laugh and talk about the good time. That's not

you know, as much as we can't. You know what's interesting? I can tell how much faith you have in God. Because, you know, when you first started the conversation, you said, I mean, they ain't a better place. Like, if you were a true believer, that's really, that really should be the mindset, right? 100%. Yeah. Yeah, no, this is, man,

when they, when they leave here, you you really, like, as their son, I think I'm really seeing how much they were actually shouldering on the day-to-day. Like, you know, especially me in the music business, my mom been in the business since

forever ago. And my dad is the same thing. So, you know, shift from the labor to labor, by the time you get the 20-25, the business be all messed up. You know what I'm saying? You know, you try to fix it and work on it, but they just unfortunately ran out of time.

So now, you know, I'm fighting that fight for them. So I think it's, I'm like, damn, y'all was doing this shit every day. Like, this what y'all was battling with and still going to work and still dealing with my shit on top of that. I can't because of, sorry, y'all. But, yeah, man, they were some soldiers, man. What gave you the music, I don't want to say what gave you the music, but when did you say I want to start singing? When did you know you had that team that you could sing?

When I moved to Atlanta and seeing the rich kids, they were a little bit older than me, and they had the hottest thing in Atlanta. I'm like, oh, this was. going on and you know i started i still was really running from me but maybe like i was 15 16 my mom bought this whole studio set up for her in the house and i ain't never used it so i started going down there record myself figuring it out and before you know i don't did about 50 60 songs i don't win to play her something she actually really loved it you know what i'm saying so she when she did that she just put the battery in my back and i was just going hard from there

And what did your dad say about your music? Because they said he was a hard critique when it came to the music. No, for sure. Like, I'm not going to lie, just be real with you. My daddy didn't really embrace it and say, go ahead and go crazy, son. He didn't do that after my mom passed. Really? Yeah, like, he never really wanted me doing music because everything he went through with the business.

You know what I'm saying? He's like, son, I don't want you in this shit. You know what I'm saying? But it's like, man, I'm going to work in a warehouse. Like, I'm tired of the car center. Like, I'm cold, you know what I'm saying? But after my mom passed, he really tapped in. He was, like, very impressed.

And that's all I ever really wanted anyway. Just, you know, here, then. Get that approval. Yeah. How do you call about your own identity while still acknowledging the legacy you come from? that's been my battle all my life but I can't do nothing but be me like when you when you hear my music

it's like you can hear them in it but it's still me I'm doing a whole different thing and I ain't trying to battle them or trying to live up to what they did they already did it they don't went to the went to the mountain I'm on my own journey you know the Swave or Twain

and I can't run from who I am and I ain't trying to but I'm not trying to I can't compete with that I don't want to Did you do records with them With your parents? Yeah, I'm on my mom

I'm on my last album Me and her Got a song together Me and my mom And my sister Diamond We have a song together That I'm gonna release

And my part's never got to work together Though I think that's I like no one regret We ain't never get to do nothing But Yeah me and my mom for sure I saw you also talk about The you know

The time that you spent With your dad it was like a week or a couple weeks that you guys got to and just after your mom passed away the time that you guys were spending together and you said you finally saw your parents as just like people because there was a lot of things that I guess you had in one way in your mind and then when you and your dad spent that time after your mom passed away you you saw him so differently so yeah man my whole you know my dad he moved in a certain way you know it like and I used always think he was just being extra.

But when we did my mother's funeral, we had the repast, and my dad was in the city the whole day. So he hit him. I'm going to put up, I'm going to pull up. But he didn't show up the whole funeral. And then the whole repass happened he didn't show up either, so I'm like,

man, it's late again. You know what I'm saying? But he pulled up like at the last possible second at the repast. And he came straight to me. And instead of my family in South Carolina treat him like a regular person here for the funeral, they all went and mobbed him like you, Justin Bieber or something.

Phones out. Yeah, and I'm, like, there's a lot of my family that did that I don't afford him to this day. You know what I'm saying? Because it's like, man, we just put my mom in the ground. So when I seen that, I said, oh, wow. Now you understood. This is why he, this is why he'd be moving in this type of manner because it's like he didn't want to even make it about him.

You just wanted to be there for me, you know what? Did you talk to any of your family about that? Or you just was like, you know what, action speed? I don't want to talk. Where, where, yeah, I don't talk. They showed their ass without. And he was dealing with cancer at that time, so. I went in here, I ain't, shit, looking back at the pictures,

it's like, yeah, he probably was, but I ain't even know. Like, I ain't, no idea. Like, I ain't never seen my daddy with an ailment or nothing. So when they came to that situation, it was, it's just, It shocked everybody. It definitely shocked me. I ain't never seen my dad that sick or nothing. So you found out, like, the rest of the world?

Down there. Like, down there, like, I knew he was battling with it, but I didn't know how bad it was. Did you get a chance to, like, say your goodbyes and everything? Yeah, man. I spent the last, down there, like, the last week together, you know, I was up there with him. And we was just talking and laughing

and listening to music. you know i ain't i ain't i ain't really wanted to see me sad or nothing like that so i was just like we you know we're gonna five about me my little brother my little sister we all was there you know what was your perspective like knowing that you had just lost your mom earlier this year and now you spending your last moments with your pop did you even look at it at last moments uh yeah Yeah, and I knew why I was there, you know, but I don't know, man, I think that was just, in my mind, I'm like, man, this just what's going on in my life right now. Like, this was going on.

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that wasn't always built for everyone So listen to good luck with that on iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Like, yeah, it looked at me one time. He looked at me. And he's like, he's looking at me like, down, son. I see where you at in life. Like, you, I remember when I was your age, I was, I was just getting ready to drop my second album. I was just seeing all the pressure that was on me.

I was like, I'm looking at you. And, like, I see, you know what I'm saying? So, I don't know. I was just being there, being in that moment. Did you have a question, faith, at all? Question of faith? No, I can't do that. I can't do that, because, I mean, I don't know.

You know, the age I was saying, stuff don't happen to you, happen for you. You know what I'm saying? So I'd just be going with the punches, man. You know, it is what it is. And you have your song, a Dobsore, that is a dedication to your mom and your dad. For sure.

At what point did you start writing that song, like, after your mom passed away? Like, when were you okay enough to try and put things in music and further it with your father? So it's crazy. I was in the studio making that song probably about two days before I got the call about my daddy. So when I was making, originally making the song, it wasn't even about. It wasn't even about my dad's rid about my mom. The first part, but I was getting writers block on it. So I did that

Probably two days later I got the call Like you need to clean like Docs like you need to get your ass up here So I went up in New York Did that And they came back to Atlanta I was working on it but I couldn't I couldn't really come up with the words

So after we did the funeral And I came back Like probably the night before I flew out To come back home after the funeral I finally like broke the writers blocking I was able to finish the song so you know

yeah man I don't be working that song for the last month for real are you signed no sir you want to be signed or you want to say independent got a lot of family members

that didn't use business about me so I'm just glad you called him sir too man he'd be forgetting he old so thank you for the reminder thank you glad you did that see how he snuck that is but no I'm not saying

I'm not saying nobody um I definitely I definitely would like to do something if it's the right situation. I just want to be with the right people, you know, whatever that looks like. I was going to say after everything your parents went through

with, like, the business side of it, you probably have a little hesitation about, you know, when deals is coming your way. Yeah, I ain't stupid, though. Yeah. Oh, of course not. You know, I've been watching and learning and being a student, so, you know,

I definitely want to do things the right way for sure. Yeah, man, when that time comes, you know, I believe I'm ready for that. Do you have to, as far as the state is concerned, do you handle the estate making sure? Because I'm sure people are trying to clear records. Yeah, so on my father's side, I'm, you know, it's very fresh, so I'm not really sure. But as far as my mother, I'm the executive. So, you know, me and the team, we handling everything. Got you.

Is it true that I saw Quest Love say that a DeAngelo album is coming? That's what he said. Yeah. You know, me and Quest Love, we ain't really talked about no music like Big Brother was hitting me on some man type of time and just checking on me like, man, and he was telling me how he was feeling. So, you know, I appreciate him reaching out like that. Shit, man, I heard some of this, my, me and my dad, we asked him.

the end we started trading music so I heard some of the stuff he got it's crazy so it's new stuff it ain't yeah like the thing that quest love said like it's for the past but for the future like i probably couldn't describe it no better it's hard and you know i would definitely love to be a part of yeah and you said on your uh song you say i know god had a chuckle when i told him my plans yeah man that's it man uh what were your original plan Definitely wasn't going to two friends this year But, no, I was getting, so my mama passed The morning after my birthday

She had a show on my birthday And, you know, for the last year or two I've been opening up for my mom on the show So I usually go with her Just to make sure she good, first of all You know, but for some reason she just didn't want me to come to this one you know you told you that yeah no like right before she left she's like son you got your own

career you getting ready to do your roll out do da da da da da I don't you don't need to come to this you know just stay home and I'm like mom are you sure and she's like no I'm positive but she made me come to all the rehearsals for the show but the day before she's like now I don't want you to come and you know at the time in March um my my P. right here it's tell you like I had a whole I'm done rollout you know I got my little budget together and I was getting ready to do that and then the morning and after everything

ain't changed so that's what that lyric come from like I had a plan but God had something different like nah what you're thinking it ain't about to be that brother because you'd have been on the bus with her yeah man yeah yeah man

what's one conversation with your with your dad a mom that changed your direction in life not even just musical just as a man man my dad my my dad said me one day he's like son you got to choose your piece over everything you know i think it was a point of my life where i was just being pulled in so many different ways and you know it was it was it was draining me like you know my mom had been dealing with you know her health and I've been essentially like a caretaker for her for the last four or five years you know people didn't know that

and you know she did a good job of hiding it but you know there's a lot of serious situations and you know I had to you know sacrifice a lot you know and I'll do it again you know because that's my mom and I know she'll do it for me but you know yeah I was just talking to my dad and he was like man

you know you do as you do for your mom but all the rest of that man you got to choose your piece over everything and i really started implementing that and it helped me a lot you know you did a couple of your dad's songs over that has to be nerve-wracking like because you know people gonna compare yeah so do you plan to do some some more on your new music is there something that you've been iron uh man i ain't never really want to do it in the first place man my mama made me do that she made you do the song yeah she made me do it like She's been saying I had to do it for a year. So when I read the SDM, she was in the studio with me.

Like, right after I finished, she started crying. She's like, why, you finally did it? So will I do it again? I don't know, maybe. What you do to how does it feel video over there? Yeah, for sure. 100%. 100%.

Yeah, man. I was going to ask, what do you think your mom's lesson for you in that was? Like, what was she trying to teach you by making you? My mama is an encyclopedia when it comes to samples. Like, if you, the longer you talk to her, it's likely she's going to tell you something to sample. And, you know, it was a lesson in it because if it worked before, it will work again. You know, she implemented that in her career. So she was like, son, it's going to work.

I ain't got no choice but to work. So, you know, independent ground, man, you got to front your own money, man. So I ain't had a gas to really make it go chart. But, you know, my little independent budget, man, you know, I definitely made some noise with it. So I was proud of that. I just figured out where I've seen you before, man. You had dreds before as an artist.

Now I remember. Why you cut your dreds? Just different styles, just changed? Man, yeah, after that friend, after tomorrow I cut them. But shit, I got tired on it. They were getting too heavy. You know, you'd be in the bed. You think something crowding on you.

You're like, man, it's my hell. Like, man, then I'm in the pool doing all of this. I'm like, no, man, I got to cut it out. Do you really, really, really love music? Man, for sure. Okay, okay. That's what's getting me through right now. Like, if I ain't creating, man, I'm losing.

That's how I feel. You know what I'm saying? So the music, definitely therapy for me right now. And it's like, that was a point of connection for my mom and my part. Just be real. you know, we connected through the music, man. You know, even, you know, my, you know, my daddy, man, he really, he really was tapped there to a lot of,

a lot of the new artists, like, you know what I'm saying? He loved amigos, he, you know, like, you heard of new Ice Spice, like, just people, since you wouldn't even know that, he'd be tapped into it. And my mama, she, like, before she passed, man, she was, she weighed me or three in the morning, and she's in the room writing a new rap to a ghost face killer.

Like, you know what I'm saying? Like, she was, she still had that fire to the end, you know, so I love this shit. What do you think your purpose is as an artist beyond entertainment? That's a good question. I'm here to help people, man. I'm here to be a vessel, man, you know. Like, man, you know, we from Columbia, man. people don't make it where we come from

and it's like it's a mindset of you're not going to make it like something going to happen before you get to where you're supposed to get to man so I want to use the music as a vehicle to definitely like go back and help people for sure 10 years from now what do you want people to say about you that has nothing to do with your parents I just want people to say that I was a genuine guy

or I helped them some type of way or, you know, a lot of people being hitting me, like, throughout this process. Like, man, I don't know how you doing it. And I'm like, man, I ain't doing nothing but a whole lot of crying and praying. Like, if I, you know, if I could be a, if you can look at me and think you can get through

because I'm getting through, then, you know what I'm saying? That's fine. Let's get on your record, man. Introduce the record to the world. Wow. This is Swayvo Twain, man. When Dobs So, you know, exclusive right here at the Breakfast Club, man.

Dedicated to my mother and father, man. Y'all check it out. All right, there you have it. It's Swayvo Twain. Swayvo Twain. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning, y'all. Hey.

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