The Breakfast Club - INTERVIEW: SWV & Xscape Talk Joint Tour, Old Vs. New R&B, Reality Show Split + More

Episode Date: May 15, 2024

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hey guys, I'm Kate Max. You might know me from my popular online series, The Running Interview Show, where I run with celebrities, athletes, entrepreneurs, and more. After those runs, the conversations keep going. That's what my podcast, Post Run High, is all about. It's a chance to sit down with my guests and dive even deeper into their stories, their journeys, and the thoughts that arise once we've hit the pavement together. Listen to Post Run High on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. own? I planted the flag. This is mine. I own this. It's surprisingly easy. 55 gallons of water,
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Starting point is 00:02:38 Wake that ass up early in the morning. The Breakfast Club. Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy, Jess Hilarious, Charlamagne Tha Guy. We are The Breakfast Club. Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy, Jess Hilarious, Charlamagne Tha Guy. We are The Breakfast Club. We got some special guests joining us today. We have SWV and Escape. Welcome.
Starting point is 00:02:53 What's happening? How y'all feeling? Good. This is a lot to move around. Expensive. We made it. We made it. Why weren't these type of tours possible
Starting point is 00:03:07 when y'all was younger you think no that would have been we had the Budweiser Superfest back then oh y'all did that yeah
Starting point is 00:03:13 we're together like this no no you don't remember the Budweiser Superfest but it was a festival right but it was
Starting point is 00:03:21 I mean we did tours we did the R. Kelly tours it wasn't like an all female we did't like an all female we did some all female tours yeah
Starting point is 00:03:28 I don't know I guess nobody thought about it back then yeah that would've been dope though it was 855 million
Starting point is 00:03:35 girl groups back then right so many girls yeah for sure so how's it working with everybody now
Starting point is 00:03:41 is it difficult getting everybody on the road together getting everybody on time cause at first they said y'all gonna be a certain time they'd be like somebody gonna be just a little late but then y'all all came together how is that
Starting point is 00:03:50 i heard it'll be li, but I don't know. Lili don't care about time. I'm going to admit my shit. I do have a problem, but I'm never late. When I get there, shit ain't ready. Ain't nobody done. So is Lili the one y'all got to tell an hour early just to get her on time? Yeah. Okay. That still doesn't work.
Starting point is 00:04:26 I did. Today? Yeah. So you don't like to hurry up and wait. No, because when I'm on time, everybody. Did you say you did good today? Yes. We sit there, sit there, knocked on your door.
Starting point is 00:04:38 Oh, no, because my room was the glam and everything room. Okay? I thought somebody stole my purse out my room. One of these ladies? No, no. This one. She stole my purse. And so I'm talking to security at the hotel the whole night to 3 a.m. in the morning.
Starting point is 00:04:55 Did you find your purse? She had it. Oh. What? What? I'm a prankster. I'm the prankster out the crew. So you didn't think You were gonna tell her
Starting point is 00:05:05 You was like I'll be gone Wait a little longer I came back the next morning I said hey It was terrible I go through a lot of shit With these people
Starting point is 00:05:13 I see These people Right So how did the two Come together Mona Mona said Mona said
Starting point is 00:05:21 I want a bono Come on up to the mic Mona She was like I'm definitely gonna Get them together Obviously a lot of people know after the we did the reality show together kind of like put things on ice for a while yeah and then mona you know she just kept coming back with ideas and she got us all on the same page and and i'm glad she did because you know we all was friends for a while so it was crazy that we allowed the show to like mess things up or whatever.
Starting point is 00:05:48 You know what I mean? And this is, I feel like it's a perfect time to come back. We also got our girls, 702, Toto, Maya. So it's going to be a really fun tour. Like we're going to have a good time. What about the reality show broke y'all up exactly? We were just having our own.
Starting point is 00:06:08 We had our own inner turmoil. You know what I mean? We had bumped heads about stupid stuff. You know what I mean? It don't help when you get the people involved. Social media. People putting their opinions and everything.
Starting point is 00:06:24 How was it with your families and your life so into the press because anything that you do family does kids do it's in the press all the time does that get annoying yes yeah of course anybody's accountable like we have to be accountable for every little thing that we do because we're not the only ones that feel it yeah so you almost have to live your life the way for other people. It's the most uncomfortable feeling ever, but
Starting point is 00:06:51 you got to do the best you can and just sign an NDA. My girl. My girl. Does it make it difficult to be a parent? You got a daughter that's graduating this week. Does it make it difficult to be a parent you got a you got a daughter that's graduating this week yeah does it make it difficult that because everything that she does is on i remember um i took them all out one night right with my daughter and i was so nervous because i felt like a chaperone right because now you're looking but like oh they're drinking i hope nobody sees them
Starting point is 00:07:20 drinking and it's like but people that don't know both of our daughters go to NYU but they all went out for a birthday and I was the chaperone so I had to get security I had to make sure and I didn't like it like it was like it was too much stress on me because at the end of the day I'm like what happened if Candy calls me the next morning was like Envy why did my daughter get back at this time like it's a lot but it's always in the public so how do you deal with that um I mean we're used to it at this point we was i mean i was on housewife for 14 seasons so riley grew up in it and she's about to do something else you know so it's just kind of like i just told her you know whatever you do just know you just say hey i had fun doing it and if i messed up i messed up i might have to
Starting point is 00:08:02 get it right the next time yes oh good no go ahead no go ahead after the reality show you know y'all had y'all little issues what was that first conversation like because nowadays it seems like nobody knows good conflict resolution skills so what did y'all what conversations did y'all have that got y'all back on the same page I thought it was it was really cool because when Mona got us all back together, we hadn't spoken to each other. But what I thought was really cool was that we put the managers out, we put everybody out, and it was just us six. And it's easier that way. We worked it out.
Starting point is 00:08:38 We talked. We let each other know how we felt about certain things. And we're here. Who's the most difficult? I call it the Virgo of the group, that's like me. I want Coco to answer this. I feel like Coco gonna give us an honest answer. Coco, she gonna give you some answers.
Starting point is 00:08:53 Who's the most difficult, Coco? The most difficult? I could be me. I'm difficult, I just, you know, I stand on what I want and what I believe in and I'ma go for it. I don't you know, I stand on what I want and what I believe in, and I'm going to go for it. I don't want nobody to tell me what to do. She's going to say no 20 times before yes.
Starting point is 00:09:10 And it's just a yes. It ain't even a hard yes. It's a yes. It's a soft yes. It's a soft yes. No, y'all. She's going to know you to death. I don't know just going with the flow.
Starting point is 00:09:21 I don't know that. She tells me, oh, this is the one saying you catch more bees with honey. I just like, I don't know. I tell her, assimilate. I'm trying, but, you know, I'm not there yet. But in this business, all of y'all got to be stern because you're black, you're women, people try to get over on you. So you got to have those boundaries.
Starting point is 00:09:37 For sure. For sure. Yes. And we, each one of us, we think our group is the best. So you're going to bump heads sometimes. No, seriously, you're going to bump heads. But, you know, we come to a resolution and we make it work. Right.
Starting point is 00:09:49 We did have a conversation one day on air about who closes the show. We did. Remember? I remember. Yeah, that was part of the drama when we had during the season. And I was like, how do you figure out? Because I guess in certain markets, a certain group will close or maybe not. So how did y'all figure that out?
Starting point is 00:10:07 We have 30 shows. We just decided to split it down the middle. You know what I'm saying? It's 30 shows. You close 15. We close 15. We just do it like that. But to be clear, our show is intertwined.
Starting point is 00:10:19 So for people, it's not going to be one of those concerts where, you know, one act goes, do their whole show, and then the next act goes. It's like we're doing kind of like versus, but a live, fun or a better version where we go in back and forth doing our, you know, our hits. So, yeah, it's going to work out. Yeah. The last song is going to change, you know, for 15, you know, versus 15 or whatever. But it's still the whole show is going to be be like you're gonna feel like you're going back down memory lane and being able to sing every hit of ours that you've ever felt you know what i mean and it's not gonna ever like make you to a point where you want to sit down because you're gonna
Starting point is 00:10:54 like oh this is my joint and then they're gonna go and it's oh that's my joint it's gonna keep going back and forth gotcha is this why you took a break from real housewives of atlanta candy no i wasn't the only reason i have a whole bunch of different things that I'm doing. I'm producing Wiz on Broadway. I got another show that I'm about to announce that I'm producing. Congratulations. I'm filming on a TV show I can't even announce yet. So there's a lot of other things that I really wanted to do that,
Starting point is 00:11:17 unfortunately, you know, I don't know if y'all watched last season. They was always mad because I was working on something else, and that wasn't going to change because I got a lot of dreams I'm trying to make happen. It's extra busy. But I still got love for them. I'm still going to be supporting them. You know. So why is this so important to do this?
Starting point is 00:11:35 It was very important for my group and, you know, us together to do this. I mean, I personally want to keep the legacy of our groups going. You know what I mean I feel like it's crazy to be able to say that back in the 90s we had hits and now in 2024 we're still able to headline tours and go across the country like as women you know what I mean um I think that's very important I don't know about y'all but as women you know I'm all about you know we got to make moves and big moves and show people like yeah like this is where it's, you know, I'm all about, you know, we got to make moves and big moves and show people like, yeah, like this is where it's at. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:12:07 What about you, Tani? Why is it important for you? I mean, because it's something that I really love doing. And I mean, it just it's just a different feeling from everything else that we do. And, you know, our music is still living and doing its thing. So it's just it's just a great thing to be able to be able to go out there and sell arenas and do these shows so i mean i feel like shit what i mean i feel like why not you know i'm saying the money and you know for a long time we wasn't doing any shows and so many
Starting point is 00:12:40 ex in our era was you know getting that money and I was just like come under my gun like why ain't we getting the money like what are we doing we can't even we can't get along like we're missing out so we finally you know thankful to Jermaine and all them they was trying to do like a movie on us that we didn't have nothing to do with
Starting point is 00:12:59 so that's really what brought us back together was trying to figure that out like who the hell doing a movie on us and we ain't got nothing to do with it so that's how we brought us back together. Was trying to figure that out. Like, who the hell doing a movie on us and we ain't got nothing to do with it. So that's how we got back to where we are. What was important for y'all? SWV. This is something that I've been wanting to do
Starting point is 00:13:15 since how long? Yeah, it's a long time. I think we got back together in 2005 and I just always wanted to put a girl group tour back together. The 90s was just beautiful with so many varieties of girl groups doing their thing successfully I missed that vibe and I wanted to do it again it was it's just been so hard trying to get everybody together but finally this situation
Starting point is 00:13:37 came along and I'm like all for it yeah I thought it was dope because I think we left a lot of things open, you know since the show and Another thing I don't think men really give us the support. I think we deserve Yeah, so for us to for the world to see us come together as women and support each other like this I think is a big deal for me Because y'all support each other y'all don't support us But I've also seen the shift in R&B music because I would say maybe about four or five years ago, it started shifting where R&B music, it was R&B music parties, R&B music concerts, R&B music things.
Starting point is 00:14:15 And I'm sure you guys seen that shift because at one time it felt like, I don't want to say it was dead, but people didn't respect the 90s groups like they should have in the 2000s. But I seen that shift where it's like you're seeing concerts you're seeing shows i mean think about it a vegas show lovers and friends when they had 30 40 000 people you would never see that before right that was always a good thing yeah and i gotta ask cancel i gotta um yeah it was canceled i gotta give you a lot of props wow you took dark skin shut up up. Don't even bring that. Shut up. Why did you say dog skin?
Starting point is 00:14:51 Shut up. We ain't going down that road. Why did you say dog skin? No, no, no, no, no. What did you say? No. Wait, what? Why did you say dog skin? Really?
Starting point is 00:15:04 Oh, wait. Did you change your complex Really? Oh, wait. Did you change her complexion? Yes. Well, he said I had a vintage vagina. I had skin discoloration. Rightfully so, y'all. What happened? What happened now?
Starting point is 00:15:16 You said I had vintage vagina. I don't know what y'all talking about. Vintage vagina. We got it on film. None of those things happened. We got it on film. AI. AI. I just saw AI before AI. She said, I don't know what you those things happened. We got it on film. AI. AI.
Starting point is 00:15:26 I just saw AI before AI. She said, I just saw AI before AI. On button. Wait, time out. Is vengeance vagina a good thing or bad? To me, it's good. I would say it's good. She was saying it was good.
Starting point is 00:15:34 Did you give him the vengeance vagina? No. No. No. Oh my God. Oh my God. No. No.
Starting point is 00:15:42 Oh no. Oh no. Oh no. Oh no. Oh no. Oh no! Absolutely not! Oh my god! Oh my god! You enjoy this too much and you turn to me! You just be saying shit! Oh no! I'm just saying anything! Do you think this generation even knows what 90's are and what real R&B is? They don't know nothing else!
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Starting point is 00:21:12 I'm going to cry. Okay. That's okay. Do y'all think this generation even knows what real R&B is? Oh, absolutely. There are a ton of youngsters, millennials, Gen Z's that know about SWV and Xscape because their parents are teaching them about that. We did a show last year with Glorilla and a couple of other young rappers. We were like, why are we here? But those kids were out there singing those songs like they were there when we recorded them and they're holding their moms up on facetime let them watch us who say hey ma but music is not the same r&b doesn't seem like it's the same even even my daughter now of course she listens to scissor and she listens to
Starting point is 00:21:55 summer walker but when when these records come on in the house she knows every word word for word like these are her artists she looks at you you guys at her artists like we do which is it's different it's not this you don't get the same behavior when you when you immerse these kids in this kind of music they love it that you have tiktok you have all these youtube my son used to sit there and and uh look up different artists on youtube and he would like think it was so cool and i'm like that's old school music he goes no it isn't bruh it is i have to tell my grandbaby no uh they didn't make that song the song came from this so you know you gotta teach your kid even though she's my child she goes she knows all of escape songs all the songs that we don't sing we never work me slowly she's saying i'm like girl you cannot sing these songs she's singing every she's like singing every, she's like, and I know this song, and I know this song.
Starting point is 00:22:47 And she can sing. She sure is. Oh, my God. That's crazy that you said eight years old. I feel like we just seen her be born. She doing interviews. She doing everything. She know what she want to do.
Starting point is 00:23:01 But y'all got to realize, like, a lot of our songs and other R&B songs, they end up trending and everything on social media and people be making their own video clips not knowing where they got the song from. They just start singing it and blow it up all over again. Is there any songs y'all tired of performing but you got to because it's a big
Starting point is 00:23:20 hit or the fans want it? It's Tonight for me. Every last song. You don't like Tonight, It's tonight for me. I love performing every last song. Oh, bye. Oh, bye. You don't like tonight, Tiny? No, I mean, I do, but, you know, like, sometimes when we have a show, we're like, we need to cut the songs down. I'll be ready to cut tonight. They never want to cut tonight.
Starting point is 00:23:34 Why? She don't want to have the pressure of hitting the high note at the end. Oh. Yeah. You know. I can do without it, but it's okay. We're not cutting tonight. What about y'all?
Starting point is 00:23:44 Anything that y'all tired of doing? I love performing every last song. Every time we sing those songs, I can do without it, but it's okay. We're not cutting tonight. What about y'all? Anything that y'all tired of doing? I'm performing every last song. Every time we sing those songs, I feel blessed. I'm going to sing them every time from the bottom of my heart. Sing them, girl. We get tired of them right here. Yeah. Right here?
Starting point is 00:23:55 Why? What? Why? I'm so sleepy. The dance moves? You still got to do the choreography? It's just slow. You still got to do the choreography?
Starting point is 00:24:02 That's why? No, it's not the choreography. It makes you sleepy. To me, it's more of a radio song. It's not a. You still got to do the choreography? That's why? No, it's not the choreography. It makes you sleepy. To me, it's more of a radio song. It's not a performance song to me. I feel that. I feel like that about, what song is it?
Starting point is 00:24:13 I feel like It's So Good is more like one of those songs. Oh, right. Right here, one of them. One of them. Yeah. I don't see how right here. I'm going to be mad.
Starting point is 00:24:22 We do it. We have to do it, but we don't want to do it. I'm just tired of it. Todd, you was on Survivor, right? Yes, sir. Did you once say you compared Survivor to working with Escape? No.
Starting point is 00:24:37 I said I compared Survivor to you taking Lili out. That bitch's vagina. That's what I said. It was hard. It was hard. It was hard and dry. You're gonna tear me apart. You're gonna tear me apart. It's hard and dry.
Starting point is 00:24:55 Wait a minute. Damn. Jesus Christ, man. I wasn't on Survivor Talk. You wanna redirect that cut? I wasn't on Survivor Talk. it was crazy look survivor is the only reality television show that's the only one there are no storylines there's nothing you're out there with absolutely nothing and you have to literally survive so will i do it again absolutely not They've been trying to get me to come back for years. That's what we all need to do. Something like Survivor.
Starting point is 00:25:29 We need to do a show where we have to depend on each other. We ain't going to barely walk in here. She's not going to wipe her butt with no leave. We're going to set that up. We have a whole gourmet meal prepared. Does reality TV help or hurt? Scale the fish.
Starting point is 00:25:46 It can do either one it depends on what you do with it really I mean I definitely feel like
Starting point is 00:25:51 you know I've had moments where I hated it obviously but I feel like I really built a big fan base through it
Starting point is 00:25:59 you know a lot of ups and downs a lot of good and bad I think that's with everything though like even when y'all come to work every day
Starting point is 00:26:08 you gotta deal with the political bullshit and you're gonna deal with something no matter what you do you're gonna deal
Starting point is 00:26:15 with something it's just how you resolve but how do you resolve it though like I know with you Candy I mean they had a problem
Starting point is 00:26:22 with your restaurant at one time right and I tell everybody every time I go to Atlanta and I'm filming I order the salmon bites they good money they let me come out but they had a problem with your restaurant at one time right and I tell everybody every time I go to Atlanta and I'm filming I order the salmon bites they're good money they let me come back to them
Starting point is 00:26:28 but they had a problem with your restaurant so how do you deal with that then I seen then they said something about your marriage and I'm like I just seen her and Todd
Starting point is 00:26:34 at my pool party like so how do you deal with some of those people think they know everything right you know I mean for me it's like in anything
Starting point is 00:26:43 I mean I just feel like okay well we and Todd we solid so I don't even be bothered with any of that but when people try to attack your business or different things like that just because they may not like you on social media or whatever whatever it's like for me I take the good with the bad same way as some people that's gonna say some negative stuff it'd be a whole bunch of people that come through just because they want to support so you know you just gotta take the good with the bad and it is what it is and if it's anything that i don't think my stuff is perfect so anything i just take notes and i try to fix it and just
Starting point is 00:27:14 keep going from there tony what about you tony because sometimes your stuff is all over the all over the place to the point where i'll be like they can't even parent because if they parent they get yeah i stay i stay in the mess even if i ain't doing a damn thing i'm in the mess you know but um a lot of it can be you know stressful just because most of it is is is bullshit you know what i'm saying so i don't know you know i i deal with that but i i you know there's stuff like that i kind of brush it off because i already know what it is so it's like you can't You can't let stuff get to you if you know it's not real.
Starting point is 00:27:48 People are just so cool. And I think with this new internet social media thing, they feel like they know you. They feel like they own you. And they feel like you ain't gonna say shit. But you have to sometimes let people know, okay, I ain't the one and we ain't the two.
Starting point is 00:28:04 Sometimes I'm like, Lili, put the phone down. You got better. She got better. She got better. She got better. She's hilarious, but it wasn't always like that. I didn't get much better. I didn't get much better.
Starting point is 00:28:16 I don't feel like. I am very. It wasn't always like that. Like quiet. I don't really do the social media thing. But it's like people just, it's like they plan an attack on you. They wake up in the morning just to fuck your day up.
Starting point is 00:28:29 And so I'm like, I got time that I'm going to fuck your shit up too. And it pisses me off. But the only thing is, they doing, they not doing what you doing. They have nothing. So I think we have to pick and choose our battles and half of that shit ain't worth the fight. You You gotta earn my attention
Starting point is 00:28:46 What's the craziest movie y'all heard about yourselves? If there was one I heard I used to be a prostitute What? Somebody did a background check on us And when I saw it, it was like people saying Taj, yeah, she's doing much better now Because she used to be on the street
Starting point is 00:29:02 I never heard that one Me neither. Not until I saw that little background check thingy. But no, I've never been a prostitute. Thank you very much. Well, y'all know what mine is. I got women locked up in the basement. I'm beating them up because, you know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:29:17 You ain't beating them up. It's going down. It's going down. How you able to navigate through that though, Tiny? Like, when you hear those stories about yourself? You know, they piss me off more so than anything. But, you know, just because I be wanting to say so much and I have to, you know, everybody always tell me, no, I can't say anything. My lawyers and tip and that be on my head.
Starting point is 00:29:37 So I just had to be quiet. That's the part that really bothers me the most. It's just not being able to say. And nobody gonna believe you anyway because nobody cares about the truth and the lies. No one. My husband tells me all the time, it don't matter.
Starting point is 00:29:54 Either they gonna believe you or deny and most people they split. You can't get everybody. Just forget about it. Has there ever been where it affected your kids in school? Like anything like that? Because I think about it on that level too.
Starting point is 00:30:10 Like y'all got kids, successful kids, and like they still have their life. Like, you know what I mean? Where they got to. Yeah, I felt like maybe so, but they don't really talk about it. They don't really say, oh, I had a bad day because of this and that. Like Major is one of the main kids this in school right now and he's so he's so chill like he don't never just be like you know I just had the worst day today if he does have a bad day he probably he don't really have bad
Starting point is 00:30:38 days cuz he don't care about nothing you know I'm? He don't really care about anything. Does he give less of a fuck than young King? Well, King... King is... King don't play. He's got tough skin. And I'm glad he got tough skin because he get the most flack out of everybody. But he's got really tough skin, so he could care less what they say.
Starting point is 00:30:59 He'd be like, yeah, keep talking about me. I don't care. You know what I'm saying? He don't mind. So I'm okay with that. You know what I'm saying? So all our kids are pretty much... They know us, and they don't care you know what i'm saying he don't mind so i'm okay with that you know i'm saying so all our kids are pretty much they know us and they pretty much you know they they they know they don't really care what nobody's saying they're kind of like i know who my mom and my dad is so you know it don't really bother them like i would think it would you know
Starting point is 00:31:20 and then aries she's just too young so she just kind of she's just too young, so she just kind of, she's just living life right now. She said, I'm a star. I don't got time for that. I'm just trying to get my career popping. Right. How does, I don't know if this is true, but they said LaTosha filed a lawsuit against the group. Is that true? Well, she didn't file a lawsuit against us. She sent a letter to Mom.
Starting point is 00:31:42 She sent a letter. She sent a letter. Yeah, she sent a letter to Mom. She sent a letter. She sent a letter. Yeah, she sent a letter. It's over. Yeah, I think it was more of a scare tactic, but it didn't work. I mean, you know, we kind of already knew our rights. How did that impact the personal relationship, though?
Starting point is 00:31:57 Well, as of right now, we don't really have a personal relationship. You know what I'm saying? Nobody, we don't really speak. I don't even think we have our number for real, for real. They changed their number. you know, we're just going on,
Starting point is 00:32:10 moving, you know. It comes to us, it comes to us, but, you know, we're just doing our regular daily thing, moving around like, you know.
Starting point is 00:32:17 But when it's your sister. It is. It is our sister. You know what I mean? More so, you know, her blood sister. Yeah. But, you know, this is what life is bringing us.
Starting point is 00:32:28 Obviously, to make it, I don't really like to talk about it too much. Christmas dinner is wonderful. I have a wonderful family, my children, I'm a grandma, a wonderful husband. From the New York. He's from New York City. What's up? New York! What's up, bae?
Starting point is 00:32:41 Yeah, life is good, you know? Sometimes you have to Separate in order for Certain people to know Your worth And until they know it You just be separated But life goes on
Starting point is 00:32:52 And sometimes you gotta Separate from people Closest to you Yeah Whether that be family Or friends Or whatever Definitely
Starting point is 00:32:59 Does it make you feel Any guilt though When you're all out on the road No guilt When you're not in the wrong You don't feel guilt. These ladies got to go at 11.05. I heard.
Starting point is 00:33:14 I ain't going nowhere. Are we going to eat? You ain't fucking here. Shoot. People have to try. It's an idea to say hard out at 11.05. Jess, congratulations. You look so beautiful. Yes congratulations You look so beautiful Yes
Starting point is 00:33:30 That's the first thing I noticed How you sexy and pregnant Thank you I'm tired And then with these two Especially that when it ain't even him It's Charlamagne Do not get mad at him Cause you don't want your baby to come out with a lecher
Starting point is 00:33:44 Do not get mad at him because you don't want your baby to come out with a lie. Do not get mad at him. I'll tell you what he posted the other day. What he posted the other day? On what you thought you was more chestnut. For real, for real, for real. He posted a video. I think it was like AI or something. And he smoothed his skin.
Starting point is 00:33:57 And Maxwell was playing. And all that. Yeah, the film was so good. How many times did you put on there? I didn't do that. No, I did not. I did not. I'm going to put it up. That was in New you put on there? I didn't do that. No, I did not. I did not. I'm going to pull it up.
Starting point is 00:34:07 That was for New York Times. I had nothing to do with that. No, he was dead serious. And I was like, hold on, because I was home relaxing. Like, look. Oh! Oh! Oh!
Starting point is 00:34:18 I like it. Eyebrows filled in and whatnot. I like it. Then he like it. OK like it. I like it. OK. And you can check tickets now. Queens R&B. The Queens of R&B tour, special guest Maya Tuttle and 7-Eleven.
Starting point is 00:34:32 Nah, this is a hell of a tour. This ain't no play-playing tour. In July? In July. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I'm not sure you're attracted.
Starting point is 00:34:40 What is the New York dates? I'm not sure I bought one. I don't know our dates. I got bought one. You might be canceled. On DC, I think. On DC. Yeah. If artists don't come to Baltimore, shout out to our Queens birthday. We have Queen Taj and Queen Candy. We got to show them love You know what I'm saying
Starting point is 00:35:07 And make it look easy Thank you Thank you Alright well we appreciate You guys for joining us And they gonna be in New York July 24th
Starting point is 00:35:15 Jersey July 25th Atlantic City July 27th Oh they got y'all On the road Yeah Ticketmaster for tickets Ticketmaster.com Yes
Starting point is 00:35:24 Ticketmaster.com And Ticketmaster.com It's a Yes Ticketmaster Ticketmaster.com And Ticketmaster.com It's going big They got y'all on the road roll Like tour bus roll Y'all got Tuesday days Wednesday days I'm working on my birthday
Starting point is 00:35:34 You know it's bad Me too Y'all on my birthday We gonna turn up You been off your birthday A long time It's alright to work On your birthday
Starting point is 00:35:42 I like making money On your birthday SWG Escape. It's all right to work on your birthday. You might like making money on your birthday. SWG, Escape, it's The Breakfast Club. Good morning. Wake that ass up in the morning. The Breakfast Club. Hey, guys. I'm Kate Max.
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