The Breakfast Club - INTERVIEW: Tank Talks 'R&B MONEY THE VAULT,' Upcoming Tour, Old Vs New R&B, TGT, Flavor Flav, Jamie Foxx + More

Episode Date: April 25, 2024

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Starting point is 00:03:05 You know what I'm saying? What's your routine in the morning? You got a face routine in the morning? No. Well, I use my wife's, you know, beauty tools and stuff. You know what I'm saying? Xena Foster Beauty. Get over there.
Starting point is 00:03:16 Got to get you a free package. Yeah, yeah. I get you right. But that's about it. You know what I'm saying? A little dove. There you go. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:03:24 I keep it clean. Tank always happy. Every time you see Tank, he happy. Okay, wherever you see Tank, if it's a club, if it's out in the street,
Starting point is 00:03:31 Tank is always happy. He's always in a good mood. Listen, she's apparently been listening to my music, so I feel good about that. You know what I'm saying? And then Tank looked at Jesse and said, somebody been in there.
Starting point is 00:03:41 Somebody. And didn't get out. You know what I'm saying? He said, ugh been in there. Somebody. And didn't get out. You know what I'm saying? Said, ugh. This ain't funny. You know what I'm saying? This here is serious. Congratulations to you, though.
Starting point is 00:03:54 Thank you so much. That's really awesome. I'm really happy for you. Do you make your movie, I mean, you make your music for those moments? Hell yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's, I mean, that was kind of the point in the beginning.
Starting point is 00:04:07 Everything we do is for the attention of a woman or women for that matter, depending on how you playing it. You know what I'm saying? So for me, musically, I wanna be connected to as many of those moments as humanly possible. I wanna be responsible for bringing life into the universe. Have people come up to you and say, I never met my girl because of you.
Starting point is 00:04:28 I shot the club. I've met the kids. Wow. He's here because of you, Jay. Yeah. No, I was born because I've met the,
Starting point is 00:04:35 I'm that old now. You know what I'm saying? To where I've met the children, the offspring of my music. So I'm, I'm really proud of that. Absolutely. I see it. It feels like R&B, especially the 90s, 2000s, R&B has picked up a lot more.
Starting point is 00:04:51 Have you noticed that as well? Absolutely. The feeling. I was going to ask you that. The feeling of it is what's back. People want to. And what's crazy is that, of course, I give credit to the women for keeping R&B in the mainstream conversation. Right.
Starting point is 00:05:08 They they have been kicking ass and taking names. Right. But I got to give some credit to hip hop, to the sampling of all of this. Oh, yeah. Old R&B that they've been bringing back to the forefront and making people take a deep dive into what those samples are and rediscovering the original feelings and now desiring those things.
Starting point is 00:05:31 Give me some examples. Shit. So much. I was just listening to Doja Cat. Doja Cat just did it. She just had her record. With the Troop record. I mean it was originallyson five but all i do is think of you damn i was like oh remember the first time you heard true shout out to little steve and i'm like chucky booker and them like that type of production yeah they don't even do that no
Starting point is 00:05:58 more so you have to actually outsource it by going to the crates you know what i'm saying and bringing that feeling back and and they don't know why it's connecting we know because we were there right yeah but it's the it's something about that frequency it just makes you feel good like like your first you did it which is set with your own music mom you recreated I deserve and was it please no it wasn't please okay you recreated I deserve yeah and uh was it please no it wasn't please don't go you you recreated two I did uh well one of my own with I deserve I was like let me sample it for somebody else sample it because they're gonna take all the money that is so good and then and then I know it was a Brian McKnight one that you did you okay so Chris Brown it was Brian originally Michelle and Dick Ocello okay you know what I'm saying yeah um so there there was that and
Starting point is 00:06:44 I was like you know what I might as well get in on this too because we rarely do that and I was like let me just tap into some old and of course Brian McKnight you know one of my inspirations growing up and Michelle and Diggle Cello just absolute one of my favorites um so I just had to get some of that I was gonna ask you man that was one of my questions I have for you is R&B music a sound or a feeling? It's both. Okay. It's both. Because it's like the feeling is expressed through the sounds. You know what I mean? Like you, like think about like Devante.
Starting point is 00:07:20 Like how was he feeling when he made that? When they were making Jodeci music. Like what was he on? You know what I'm saying? When Casey says, take my money. Jesus Christ. My house and my car. My house and my car.
Starting point is 00:07:35 For one hit of you. Okay, Sean. Ain't no pussy that good. Let him work. Let him work. You gotta mean that in order for it to resonate right yeah like i like yes you can take my money my house and my car for one hit of you i mean that to this day to this day i mean that but you don't hear that now out of that soul and that feeling by the
Starting point is 00:08:02 way that's just a slick way of telling somebody, I'll give you the world. That's what you're really saying. Yeah, but we moved into this, you know, we moved into this kind of, you know, simp and all of these things when it comes to taking care of women. Or expressing love. I just think that men are just, they've been programmed to not be vulnerable. You know what I'm saying? They've been programmed to not be vulnerable. You know what I'm saying? They've been programmed to not cater. I don't know who started that.
Starting point is 00:08:31 You know what I'm saying? It ain't pimping. It ain't playing. You know what I'm saying? Because all the pimps and the players I grew up watching, taking care of, they women. But where did it end? Like what era did it end?
Starting point is 00:08:41 Because even early Trey Songz was singing his ass off to the women expressing his love i think it was when the r&b singers started wanting to be rappers and when a lot of these r&b singers probably started having sex with the rap i think it's exactly what tank said these guys are are yeah yo but i'm trying to go over that yo what you say, yo? Say it again. That's what I think what it was. Say it again.
Starting point is 00:09:07 I think when the R&B singers started wanting to be rappers, and a lot of the R&B singers started sleeping with the rap. I don't even know what that means. Not saying that a man can't make songs about another man and it still be a love song. Just saying, I think that they started loving on each other so much that they really was on some F the Women stuff. I wish I could have seen Tang Face.
Starting point is 00:09:28 They was like, what the? No, but I also think that with the wanting to be, with hip-hop's emergence, right, it became this really cool thing that was taking over everything, the airwaves, the radio, the clubs, and all of that. And so as R&B artists getting left behind, we're trying to figure out how to compete and stay relevant. And so you in the club, and you're a decently hot artist,
Starting point is 00:09:57 but none of your songs are being played in here. And all the songs are about bottles, and they're about cars, and they're about money, and it's not about women, it's about bitches and so it's like well shit, I gotta incorporate some of this into my music if I'm gonna survive in this new landscape and so
Starting point is 00:10:16 as we took that turn or as R&B took that turn it never found its balance. I think it's the DJ's fault and I'll tell you why. Because there used to be a time when we was growing up in the clubs, there would be a moment where the slow songs played.
Starting point is 00:10:31 Absolutely. Y'all don't turn down now. Everybody be on too much drugs. Well, yeah. I mean, there was a time, and usually it was at the end of the party, but now it comes back. Now I have a set in the middle of my party where I play R&B music in the set.
Starting point is 00:10:43 And that's usually the biggest part of it because people are singing they feel that that how it felt to be in during that time so it does go back I would say that but I just feel like it doesn't make it cool anymore somebody talks about singing in the rain anymore or talking about the girl hurt their feelings like I was listening to boys the men record and he was telling his girl cheated he was like it's okay baby I just want you back I just didn't care I just didn't care. I just didn't care. But if somebody did that now, they'd be like, look at this simp ass. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:11:09 Yeah, yeah, yeah. Listen, I still do it. I don't care. You still what? Simp? If that's what they want to call it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We supposed to. We married.
Starting point is 00:11:19 If I wasn't married, that's still what I'm going to be on. Showing that you can be vulnerable as a man. Like, you know, you open it up. And then, I'm telling you, I don't care. That's what, I'm going to be on. Showing that you can be vulnerable as a man. You open it up. I'm telling you, I don't care. I guess I can only speak for me, but I can speak for a lot of women too. That is attractive when a man is not only just thinking bottles, bitches.
Starting point is 00:11:36 Yeah, that's what I'm going to do. No. You got to speak to my soul and music. A lot of older R&B does that for me. I don't hear today. Yeah. But yeah. I don't subscribe to any of that stuff.
Starting point is 00:11:48 I don't care. I don't care what they do or how the tables turn. I do the R&B that I love, that I fell in love with. You know what I'm saying? I watched my older uncles and everybody. I still follow their model. And my job, I'm responsible for maintaining the line to where we treasure and we cater and we take care of our women. And the other thing too, I think the art of lovemaking is gone.
Starting point is 00:12:18 Like if you listen to the album that you and J. Valentine did and that song Slow, you have had to have made love in order to truly appreciate that record. You sitting on my face, that's my type of view. Come on, talk to him, man. God damn it. He's serious.
Starting point is 00:12:39 It's a no-skip. You have to be, listen, men, I want to say this. I want to put this out there And I'm going to say this I'm going to say this this way And then we'll fix it up later
Starting point is 00:12:52 You have to fall back in love With pussy You have to fall back in love With the idea Now let's clean it up Of making love to a woman. Talk that talk. Talk that talk, I'm listening.
Starting point is 00:13:09 And doing it at a high level. That's right. You have to study a woman. You have to ask questions. You have to learn her body in order to do this thing the right way
Starting point is 00:13:27 right every key does not start one key doesn't start every car that's right you gotta be curious about that thing that's right that's right right and outside of the curiosity you have to have an affinity for it that's right you got to have a love for it you gotta enjoy it sit it on my face yes that's my type of view my type of oh my goodness yes huh can i swim in your own can i swim in your house come on now i'm better better don't do it to finish do it cuz you love it listen my wife would tell you eat it and beat it I treat her like she knew. All of them. Every time. Talk about it. Talk about it.
Starting point is 00:14:29 That ain't no pause. You talking about your wife. Ain't no pause. We was facing each other. We was looking at each other. I'm going to bump back to you. I'm going to bump back to you. I don't care when I'm, you in the club.
Starting point is 00:14:44 I don't care what no other niggas is doing. That's right. That's right. Listen, when we, I used to be in the club with Jamie Foxx and Foxx would look around in his sex way. It's too many dudes in here.
Starting point is 00:14:55 Y'all got to move. That's where I'm from. Yeah. What are women at? That's right. That's right. That's my focus. And that's not a diss.
Starting point is 00:15:04 That's just the truth. Yeah, it is. That's why I got all my focus. And that's not a diss. That's just the truth. Yeah, it is. That's why I got all this nice shit on, man. R&B singers, I would assume their muse is women at all times. That's the point. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That is the point to have some type of spiritual or physical connection with a woman. So that's what we're getting in the vault.
Starting point is 00:15:24 That's what we're getting. We're getting more of that. More of that. Yeah. More of that feeling. Shout out to Fab. Fabulous is, when I say stand up, brother, absolutely, man.
Starting point is 00:15:34 I mean, pull it up for me. Not just on the song. And you know, sometimes, you know, when you're dealing with an artist, you know, of the magnitude of Fab, like, it can take you a good four to six months to get that feature. He's moving. He's in Abu Dhabi.
Starting point is 00:15:50 He's moving around. This man said, I got you. As soon as I get back, I'll be back in a week and a half, two weeks. I got you. Not only knock that out, say, when's the video? When we shoot? Cool, I'm on the way. Then say, man, where are the assets so I can promote?
Starting point is 00:16:04 Fab has come from a different generation. But he's still fab. You know what I'm saying? And so your access to him, regardless of how cool you are, is still limited. Right? Because he's doing what he does. Absolutely. And so for him to make himself available to me and for this record, man, was just really, really big.
Starting point is 00:16:21 Before we get started. Before we get started. And this race, in terms of climbing the charts, is my fastest record. Oh, wow. Why do you think that is? Tempo. Okay. People have been waiting for tempo from me.
Starting point is 00:16:34 I got the slow and the mid. I got that. But now they done let me get some tempo. Now you done fucked up. So you did this on purpose. You wanted a tempo, right? Oh, absolutely. Yeah, this is calculated.
Starting point is 00:16:45 This is on purpose. I needed the right one. My guy Dirk sent me this record. I said, you do not know what you have just done. You gave tank tempo? It's crazy that you still trying to make new records at this point. I mean, not saying that you can't, but you have such a catalog. You really don't even have to if you don't want to.
Starting point is 00:17:03 I do. Okay. Because I don't remember that last hit record. I don't even have to if you don't want to i do okay because i don't remember that last hit record i don't remember it i don't i don't live in it i don't live in that last outfit that i wore you know i'm saying every day is okay what's next how can i beat that that was cool because i'm i'm watching around me you know i'm saying if if? If need be, I'll drive up to CB's house, you know what I'm saying, and let him play me a thousand songs. I'm like, shit, I got more work to do.
Starting point is 00:17:32 You know what I'm saying? I'll look at the charts and see who's on there. I'm not. Okay, I got work to do. That's what drives me. It's so many new things happening every day that i'm like this oh i gotta compete with that i gotta fight with that you know what i'm saying and it gets me up for game yeah yeah health and and how you are as far as not drinking it and all the things that you do
Starting point is 00:17:56 is that from what place is that from a place of you seeing people your age doing it and you're like damn didn't look as good or is it from a i just want to be healthy type of place just it's really it's really healthy i mean it's it's really like i'm an athlete first so for me it's very important um you know what goes into my body because what goes in is what comes out you know i'm saying i've i've i've often i've often been in the gym and and my motto to my to myself is what will Floyd do? What will Mayweather do? You know what I'm saying? Because I've watched him buy 30 bottles. You know what I'm saying? I've
Starting point is 00:18:31 watched the people around him rolling up smoke and I've watched the people around him just indulge. I watched him do none of it and then grab his stuff out the back of the truck when we leave the club and run home. I said, that's what a billion dollars looks like i want that so when me and my guy gains get in there like it's not a game
Starting point is 00:18:53 this part of what i do as it correlates to who i am as an artist it's not why i do it i would be doing this anyway you know i'm Like, I want to be 150. You know what I'm saying? Still pulling up to the breakfast club. 150? Yeah, yeah, yeah. We're going to be here. We're going to be here.
Starting point is 00:19:12 Listen, I pray y'all are still here, but if y'all not, I'm still. I think I'll be here. I got 101. You got 101? Listen, I, why can't we? 150? Why not?
Starting point is 00:19:22 About 100. 150? Why not? I'm not going to put, I'm not going to say we can't. I'm not going to put a limitation on it. You know what I mean? It's all in what you're putting in. Then what happened with Jamie scared you too?
Starting point is 00:19:33 Yeah. Absolutely. And, you know, it just goes back to the idea of you just never know. You just never know. And it's not something you can predict, not something you can, for his situation, prevent. You know what I mean? Sometimes your body will just, you know, the alert is detrimental, right?
Starting point is 00:20:02 Your body telling you something is wrong is sometimes, you know, the alarm is damn near fatal. You know what I mean? And that's just life. And so yeah, it's scary. I mean, just not, just because he's, you know, one of my best friends, but just like, it could have easily been either one of us.
Starting point is 00:20:20 You know what I find interesting about that situation too? Because you talk about, you know, giving people their flowers while they're here. When it seemed like Jamie, I don't want to say this, but may not have made it. People didn't know. Everybody was giving him his flowers. As soon as he made it, all of that kind of just stopped.
Starting point is 00:20:36 It's like when we were preaching, Jamie's the greatest of all. He's one of the most talented human beings. As soon as you realize he's okay, all of that stopped. We, I want to say our culture, we have a thing about that. You know what I'm saying? Like, you know, somebody passes
Starting point is 00:20:51 and then we run the music up the charts. You know what I mean? We have a thing about our legendary artists that we just don't preserve until it's too late. You know what I mean? I was having this conversation yesterday about Boyz II Men, right? Boyz II Men is the highest selling group of all times. late you know what i mean i was having this conversation yesterday about about boys to men right boys to men is the highest selling group of all times not the highest selling black group
Starting point is 00:21:11 the highest selling group wow really and i actually remember i actually remember uh a time where i was sending my sister to go see a boys II Men concert at a venue that only held 400 people. How is that even possible? That we let Boyz II Men get to that. Now they back now. They're six, seven figures. They're good now, right? But how is it that we let that happen?
Starting point is 00:21:40 Whereas in the Rolling Stones can pop out every summer. I was going to say that. Sold out stadium. They're not that good, but they're not that good. And they should be that good. If they the number one seller, they should be on some. Rolling Stones will do the Garden three times, four times, five times in a row every year. You too. We can run down a list of those legendary artists from those other cultures that still get to run it up.
Starting point is 00:22:03 And we just throw our legends away so casually like they didn't build this. That's we can't do that. What's the highest selling group in what category? R&B? R&B maybe?
Starting point is 00:22:21 Boyz II Men? I'm looking at it. Google that. Mr. Dexter's Laboratory. Dexter? Look it up. Yeah, Boyz II Men. But you're right.
Starting point is 00:22:30 But even think about it. Highest selling R&B group of all time. But even think about it like this. No disrespect to Michael Bivens. Michael Bivens should be a hundred millionaire if that's the case because he founded them and them records are still moving. Well, I mean, that's business, right? And so, you know, I was in and so you know i was in the boy i
Starting point is 00:22:45 was in a new edition story you know i'm saying so how all that business came about and and what went on behind those that's something that's a different conversation but ultimately yes you know i'm saying the conversation should be michael bivens pioneered x y and z let's make sure that he has a job or a high level position curating the next generation of, you know what I'm saying? When people come on my podcast, I yell at all these people. I yell at Sean Garrett. I yell
Starting point is 00:23:13 at all these pioneers who come on our podcast. I'm like, what are you doing? Mike City, what are you doing? You know so much about this game. You've curated so many moments, so much music, have blessed so many artists.
Starting point is 00:23:30 What are you doing? You know this. What are we doing to preserve our genre of music? And so, you know, I've challenged everybody, and we're taking the challenge on too. R&B Money is taking on the challenge. We R&B everything. The R&B Money podcast with Tank and J Balvin
Starting point is 00:23:49 on the Black Effect iHeartRadio podcast network. Yes. What is the meaning of the R&B Money? Like, why is it your podcast? Why is it the albums? What does that mean? What does that brand mean, R&B Money? People love money.
Starting point is 00:24:01 People love the idea that something makes money that is successful and and and and that is just attractive to people the word money right you can't get past it like as soon as you say as soon as you heard young money he's like oh them some young niggas as soon as you heard cash money oh they money is in all cash. Like you just love money. And so for me, it's like associating R and B with success. We could, we could be deep and put some other nuances to it.
Starting point is 00:24:33 You know what I'm saying? Uh, a glamorous R and B or, you know what I'm saying? Or top shelf R and B. No, for simple people, R and B money.
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Starting point is 00:29:55 No. Okay. No, no, no. It can't be. Because love is not those things. Like we say wanna make love. Like that, It sounds good. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:30:07 That's just the physical aspect of it. But love is the choice you make about somebody every day. It's not an actual feeling. Love is a choice that you have to make every day. So I'm rocking with you. Right? Good or bad or ugly. Like when we were just talking about when he said I know you was
Starting point is 00:30:28 seeing that other fella that's part of it I didn't marry into perfection I married under the idea that hey man whatever it is we just gonna rock through it I chose you to walk through life with
Starting point is 00:30:43 and that means whatever comes with that love gotta be a feeling though right no that's euphoria really yeah break that down for me take i ain't get there yet love is a choice okay it's a choice right as we go back let's let's say you're christian let's say you're you're you're you're you know you're a devout christian you and you're into the bible the choice that was made was that jesus said i'm going to die for you god so loved the world that he sent it wasn't a feeling he set something in motion because that's how you show the love. I'm going to send my son, and then he's going to die.
Starting point is 00:31:29 Another choice that he made. He didn't have to die. He could have tore that whole thing down. But you only make that choice for things that you have feelings for, right? Like I don't wake up every day and choose to love something that I don't have any love for. It's a commitment. It's a commitment to your purpose, i don't have any love for it's a commitment it's a
Starting point is 00:31:45 commitment to your purpose right you get good feelings from it you know i'm saying because that's that's just you being that's just you being connected to the universe things feel good you know i'm saying and when you're on a certain path that you're connected to it feels even better because it's connected to your purpose or connected to, you know, like when you have deja vu and you're like, I feel like I've been here before. I feel like I'm supposed to be here. You feel that, right? But that's just
Starting point is 00:32:12 feelings. Love is a choice. I have to decide how I express that choice. And we just call it love. So war is a choice too then? Hmm? War is a choice too?
Starting point is 00:32:26 100%. Okay. You got a song on the new album called War. 100%. It made me say, if you know your behavior is going to cause war, why choose it, Tink? Sometimes you can't help yourself.
Starting point is 00:32:39 You cannot help yourself. We're not perfect people. That is true. We're not. But you know you ain't supposed to spend that 10 000 in the club you know you sometimes you can't help yourself you're a married man you're not supposed to you ain't never been in a club and it just in the moment just got good to you i just feel like we need three more bottles we need three more bottles and we need five more thousand and ones not Not in my 40s. Not this age. No, I'm not saying right now. I'm just saying.
Starting point is 00:33:09 When you started really getting that money. Yeah, yeah, yeah. What? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like when you in the strip club and you in a zone. You talking to somebody that picks up singles off the floor though. That was back in the day. Relax.
Starting point is 00:33:22 I was at war with myself. I was at war with myself. When you're in the strip club and you get in a zone, just bring me more wands. I'll figure it out after this. Remember you could manipulate the
Starting point is 00:33:40 where you go get the money from? The machine? Remember you could manipulate the ATM on the weekends? No. A lot of people too young for that. You could go to different ATMs and grab money out based on the balance that you have. On Friday. On Friday. And they wouldn't catch it until Monday.
Starting point is 00:34:02 You'd be overdrawn like 1,500. Jesus. But I had to get to the strip club. They needed to see me. They needed to see me. And I couldn't come in empty-handed. Ew, this man is crazy. How much have you spent at the strip club, Taylor?
Starting point is 00:34:19 How much do you think you spent at the strip club? I don't know. Oh, I'd say $10,000. No. I mean, the most in one night? Maybe like a little $40,000, $50,000 don't know. That much? I said $10,000. No. I mean, the most in one night? Maybe like a little $40,000, $50,000. Nothing crazy. $40,000, $50,000?
Starting point is 00:34:29 Yeah. A strip club? What you mean a little $40,000, $50,000? What's wrong with that? That's a lot of money. $50,000 in a strip club? In relation. To what?
Starting point is 00:34:38 To what you make. No. Someone who only makes. No. I'm acting my wage. I don't know about y'all. Sometimes you save up for that moment i've i've seen real money being spent in a club you know i'm saying i've been with bmf with real money that 50 000 i'm talking about is nothing yeah maybe storing all hundreds when I walked in with them.
Starting point is 00:35:06 And like in Charlemagne fashion, I had my shirt on. I need to catch some of this. I'm not gonna dance, but all this can't hit the floor. Like I've seen it. What do script clubs do for R&B singers? Like we know why rappers go to the script club. Like, you know, they want to get their music played. Yeah, yeah, why, what's the... Because at a time
Starting point is 00:35:26 our music was being played in there. So you forget my music is being played in the strip clubs. Oh, yeah. Yeah, yeah. I host strip clubs. They call me and they play when we. They play fucking with me. They play... Yeah, I got shit. Yeah, no, you do. Listen, home, when you dance.
Starting point is 00:35:41 You got a song called When You Dance. When You Dance. I got shit. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? And so when they dance to my music, I have to reward them for that. Makes sense. You know what I'm saying? I have to take care of them for that.
Starting point is 00:35:56 So you go to the strip club for free. The money that you make at the strip club, you give back. Just give it back. He like, no, don't be dumb. It's the give back program. I was the first artist to host King of Diamonds and i remember when i hosted king of diamonds i think i think i might have got like 15 to 20 000 for it and and and i foolishly got all that in once but i had a time i went back played basketball had some food. I looked up one time, my guy Aaron Corson, he was eating steak.
Starting point is 00:36:27 Played basketball where? King of Diamonds. Oh, they do got a basketball game. They got a barbershop, basketball, everything. They make it so y'all niggas won't even leave. It's like, nope. They had the soap. They had the suds.
Starting point is 00:36:39 You could get in the pool. I left like one time 7 o'clock in the morning. Wow. I was walking out strippers was dressed we walked out together that was before you was married though no yeah
Starting point is 00:36:53 war is just a depiction of that you know what I'm saying this means war look how late I'm walking in I'm in some random club drinking with my friends what does your wife say when she hears these stories um she be she's indifferent club drinking with my friends. What does your wife say when she hears these stories? She's indifferent. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:37:13 Because she don't like strip clubs at all. So she doesn't go with you? No. And I'd be like, babe, you should go with me. You know what I'm saying? We had this rule where I wouldn't go, and then I just started breaking the rules. I was like, look, I'm going. Grown-ass man you can tell
Starting point is 00:37:25 me to where I can't go but you know it was because I would go in there and I would kind of be irresponsible you know I'm saying I understand if you're spending 50,000 she'd probably like no no it's that and so there's okay if you're gonna go you're gonna have a good time like don't forget you know you got a family let's just let's just you know so damn how good of a time are you having when you forget you have a family how much of a time you must be having
Starting point is 00:37:48 in the script club to forget you got a family if she looking at you know looking at the Amex you know what I'm saying and then there's there's a tab for $12,000
Starting point is 00:37:56 like what are we doing what are that's right what are we doing come on now that's what you need a white phone you need an accountability system
Starting point is 00:38:04 that's right I absolutely need that that's right so that's just that's just kind of our thing but you know in in this song i just wanted to make sure to tell that story because every man goes through this you know i'm saying where they just want to do what they want to do they want to do their thing i see you calling me but you you um i'm rocking right now yeah and so you know it's it's it's it's like you said it's starting a war you know you're starting a war but you're like you know what
Starting point is 00:38:29 I'll fight that battle when I get home fuck it it is what it is it almost got a country feel to it a little bit it's very country is that on purpose
Starting point is 00:38:36 because of the time that's going everything no I did this record three years ago wow and I was like oh y'all finally caught up
Starting point is 00:38:44 cool I'll drop it my guys Javon co-captains Three years ago. Wow. And I was like, oh, y'all finally caught up. Cool. I'll drop it. My guys, Javon, co-captains, they produced it. And when they sent it to me, I was like, bro, this is so different. And when I wrote it, I was like, okay, let me tell this story. Because country is still a good place where you can tell those stories. The best. The best.
Starting point is 00:39:02 To me. And so that's where that came from. But I've been there. Everybody just now, you know, trying to be country. I've been there. A lot of these songs
Starting point is 00:39:10 are a lot of these songs that you have been done. I mean, is that why it's called The Vault? Because you think of a vault and you like, this is what I had been had.
Starting point is 00:39:17 That one is the only one that I had already. What's the other one? Come Inside. Damn. You know all about that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:39:29 She was a damn. Hey, that met her at a special place. She just relived that. Shit. All right, all right. Yeah. She's a damn. That was a Kevin Hart damn.
Starting point is 00:39:42 Okay. Damn. that was a Kevin Hart day and that record went inch and I had that record but I did that record at a at the love camp for puff but did he in his um in his album and um and when he was going through records this this song didn't make the cut and you know and I caught and called him, I was like bro, cause he was holding all the records. Everything was done at the camp, he's mine. I pay for the, you know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:40:10 I pay for the camp. And rightfully so, he can do that. You know what I'm saying? Whoever pays for that studio time and all that. So how did the camp work? He paid y'all to write records and he just kept Well I mean he created the atmosphere. So bought the studio, set up the tents,
Starting point is 00:40:23 like he just did a whole thing. Chefs, bar. This was in L.A. Fantastic album that album was, too, by the way. Great album. That album was fantastic. Great album. So I wasn't mad.
Starting point is 00:40:36 I was like, man, there's some great music on there. I'm not mad. Jazzy did her thing on there. It was a crazy album. But a lot of times when artists have these records, they hold them until they need them. They'll use them for the next project or whatever. And I hit him.
Starting point is 00:40:50 I was like, Diddy, I need that record, man. Can you please, please let me get that record? Playboy, I got you, King. You good, man. Run with it. And that was love on his part, man, because most artists, you know, they don't do that. How many did you write on the album?
Starting point is 00:41:03 I didn't write any on the album. None on the album? Yeah. I mean, I submitted a lot. I did a lot of work. But for me, like, it was, I don't do that how many did you write on the album i didn't write any of them yeah i mean i submitted a lot i did a lot of work but for me like it was i don't really go to camps you know i'm saying i don't go to the whole you know i'm saying thousand producers thousand writers but you know when he hit me he was like bro you're the you're you're the best edit and i just need you i need you in the building i need people to see that you're here because that's going to make people, oh, thank you. I got to go hard. I got to go crazy.
Starting point is 00:41:29 And so I was there for the energy but also to participate, work with Cardiac, who's super dope, Eric Bellinger, all those guys up there. You know what I'm saying? The room, I mean, when I say it was crazy, it was crazy. The people that came that showed up for diddy for that camp it was crazy it was crazy so i was just i was just happy they let me walk walk with that record yeah we're about to go on tour with another og carl thomas carl thomas yes one of the greatest r&b
Starting point is 00:42:03 albums of all time oh Oh, my God. Not even close. And people, I've seen people ask me, you know, people ask me why, you know, why you choose Carl Thomas, why you choose Kerry Hilson. I'm like, you don't hear it. Emotion was literally one of the greatest R&B albums. Like, you don't hear it. Top to bottom. Love making music.
Starting point is 00:42:21 You know what I'm saying? Like, when we down at them doo- duos with Mike Garner down in Miami and them Carl Thomas records come on, it's a thing. Absolutely. Shit really happens. That's right. Play some of them Kerry Hilson records. Like, things happen.
Starting point is 00:42:34 Yeah. I was like, first of all, I want to go on tour with my friends. I want to go on tour with people I like. But then, too, I want to be out there. This is an R&B money tour. I want the catalog to be expensive. Put some expensive catalogs. You know, Carrie got Hot 100s.
Starting point is 00:42:48 Carl Thomas has timeless R&B. Timeless. I'm talking about, I've been in parties today, right now, with Summer Rain. They play that at the top, in the middle of the party, at the end. Like, they bring, what? And I grabbed the mic. I don't care where I'm at. No karaoke even
Starting point is 00:43:03 playing. I'm like, I sing the whole. Give me some. No karaoke even playing. I'm like, I sing at home. Oh my gosh, come on, Tank. You gotta pay for that. Charlamagne has blessed us with his... Storming outside when she keeps me home.
Starting point is 00:43:20 That's my song. That's all you got. That's the baby singing. That was my wife in college. We had that going rocking with Carl Thomas. Carl Thomas Emotional and Joe. My name is Joe. I got to do a tour with Joe, too.
Starting point is 00:43:38 Yeah, man. A tour and a song. I love that. People have been wanting that for quite some time. You know what I'm saying? You know, Joe likes to hide until it some time. You know, I get you know, Joe likes to hide Until this time, you know say like well, you know, I'll be I'll be outplayed boy. You know, I'm saying I'm a pop out You mentioned in everybody but TGT I ain't nobody no Tyrese and genuine. What's up with that? Yeah
Starting point is 00:44:00 I saw you in the studio working on my beautiful pain I think you in the studio working on My Beautiful Pain. I was over there. Yeah. Yeah. I think, you know, I think we're at a great place, man. We're at a great place where I think now we all, everybody collectively sees the value in what we are, in what we created. And it's, again, it's this resurgence of just that feeling of R&B and so you got two guys from the 90s who got classic catalogs, you got me coming in
Starting point is 00:44:33 from the 2000s who came up under these guys and people are hungry and thirsty for that. And so you're gonna see some TGT, you know, fortunately. Thank God. Y'all got an album? No, I don't know if we have an album, but we do have a couple moments that we're lining up that are going to be very special. So that's all I can really say about that.
Starting point is 00:45:02 And I saw you the other night, man. I don't know where y'all was at, but Flavor Flav was singing. He was. What was, I forgot what he was singing. Was it a? We were honoring, they were honoring, I don't wanna get this wrong, the BP.
Starting point is 00:45:16 I don't remember. See, they're, I can't, I don't wanna mess up the name of the organization. Ashana hit me and was like, we're honoring Jimmy Jam and Terry Lewis and we need you to do what you do. And I was like we're honoring jimmy jim and terry lewis and we need you to do what you do and i was like cool i'm in you say jimmy jim and terry lewis i'm in i don't i don't care what it is and so we're honoring them and and and babyface is there and you know i don't want to pressure babyface to sing but he's there and i'm Babyface, if you want to sing, you can.
Starting point is 00:45:45 You don't have to. And they started playing one of his songs, and we were singing, and Faith was like, no, no, let me handle that, young fella. And he started singing. Flavor Flavor just came out of nowhere and just started singing. You looked surprised that he could hold a note. No, that wasn't a surprise. It was just like, think about it.
Starting point is 00:46:04 Why did you take the mic from Babyface to give it to Flavor Flavor? There we go. My thing is Babyface is singing. Gotcha. All right? Yeah. And Flavor Flav has the gall and audacity to run up and start singing against Babyface.
Starting point is 00:46:27 Why didn't you stop it? That's why the game need referees, Tank. You supposed to stop that right there. You big enough to stop him, Paul. At that moment, right, it only goes one way. It only looks like disrespect in front of that many people. You know what I'm saying? Now it's Flavor Flay flay he is flavor flay right let's not discredit him he is who he is and then i run
Starting point is 00:46:52 up on him say hey nigga babyface sing hold on right now nigga hold on hold on but didn't he disrespect babyface in a way babyface has to fight that battle. Listen, and don't think that if Babyface felt the way, he wouldn't have handled it. Babyface is, listen, the songs are nice and soft and meek. Babyface is not. He's a nice guy, but
Starting point is 00:47:19 he's nobody's sucker. I promise you, if he felt the way, he would have, and I was kind of he felt a way, he would have. And I was kind of following his lead. If Babyface would have looked like he wasn't feeling it, then we would have handled it that way. But it was all in good fun. Well, R&B Money, The Vault is out right now.
Starting point is 00:47:37 Say it again. The Vault is out right now, and we appreciate you for joining us. It'll be out on the 26th. That's right. Yeah, it's out right now, right? It's out right now. It's out right now, right? I think it's out right now. It's out right now? Okay. Are you going to, what are you going to do with this music?
Starting point is 00:47:49 You already know what I'm doing. I got to wait. I can't, ain't too much I can do right now because I can't get pregnant twice in one, you know. How far along are you? Five months. I'm about to be six. Five months?
Starting point is 00:47:59 Yep. That's a good time. Yeah, I'm still, look, I'm still on R&B money. That's a good time. You can still move and groove in five months. Oh, yeah, yeah. I'm still moving and groo extra in there it is can I swim in your ocean can I drown in it too each time I bow down I just I know that's right
Starting point is 00:48:28 I know that's right you know how many people I put on that R&B money it's a no skip it's like an ointment alright Tank album out right now
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