The Breakfast Club - INTERVIEW: Tee Grizzley On New Music, Making Money From Gaming, Ayahuasca Therapy + More

Episode Date: February 9, 2024

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We got a special guest in the building Yes indeed T Grizzly What up though What up Grizzly What's the deal man How you feeling brother Feeling good, feeling great

Bless all that Look good I'm glad you put down the joysticks a little bit To start rapping again you was really making that much money on video games yeah man when i was about it damn still i mean still auto yeah yeah okay yeah it's it's crazy because before i was a rapper i was a gamer i feel like we all was you know i'm saying just growing up playing a game so just like music is something i put a lot of passion into how do you make make a career at that though? Like I asked, that's what I'll always be.

Um, honestly, I had to be coached through it because when I first started playing like online, I was just meeting different people who was already doing it. They kind of taught me how to do it. And it just took off. I'm surprised at the numbers that game is make.

So it's just, is it gambling or is it tournaments or how does, how does it work? No, it's just, it's just you build a community and the audience you know i'm saying and they they paying to subscribe to your content yeah yeah streaming can that translate into record sales i wonder um yeah if you do it right for sure yeah so if i if i drop an album and i'm in gta and i have a listening party i'm like

all of us got to play it on the same time on our own and come back and give our feedback on the songs and stuff like that then you get everybody engaged and everybody streaming it what platform is that because i mean i'm i'm sure messing with the labels because once that's played in a twitch or played in one of those streaming platforms that got to be a spin right because it's yeah yeah yeah for sure twitch youtube and it's the it is the spin for sure. Because I'm getting everybody to do it on their own. You feel me? Instead of me just listening to it for y'all,

and y'all hearing it with me, that's only one stream. You feel me? What's the most you ever made, if you don't mind us asking? Because your diamonds are shining, brother. I appreciate it. It was a lot. I don't know. It was a lot.

More than six figures? Yeah. Damn. It was a lot. How do regular kids get to do that? I'm not trying to figure out. My son don't be getting that with a lot. More than six figures? Yeah. Damn. It was a lot. How do regular kids get to do that? I'm not trying to figure out. My son don't be getting that with that now. Yeah.

Yeah. And that's with what game? That's playing? GTA. GTA. Yeah. So you ready for GTA 6 then? Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. Super ready for that. For sure. It took them long enough, but shout out to Rockstar and my people though. Now, Tease Coney Island. Mm-hmm. You're not from New York.

No. So why is it called T's Coney Island? You know what's crazy? I don't ever have to have this conversation in the Midwest. You feel me? Because they don't know Coney Island from New York. No, so look. So Coney Island is like, now y'all got y'all bodegas, right?

We got them in Detroit too, but it's just called Coney Island. So it's a bunch of different Coney Islands. You know what I'm saying? If you're from them areas, you got your own Coney. So it's like a store, a little convenience like a diner okay okay you know i'm saying where you get food what's the uh significance of that to you with me growing up you feel me i ain't always like have a home cooking meal and i never ate out you know i'm saying stuff like that so i scrape up on a couple dollars i know i go to the coney and get some good food you know i'm saying a lot of it but not that much money you know can you

take a woman there would she be fine going to Coney Island for sure okay okay yeah definitely you know they boozy nowadays yeah Coney ain't bad though I took my wife to Coney Island before what's like what's some of the things on the menu that that's good to get so for me me, I get, I go for the grilled chicken pita, Swiss and American and bacon. Chicken fingers, French fries. That's what every minute you get some chili fries. You know what I'm saying?

They got a nice, they got a decent burger, good quality burger. If that's what you went to, um, all sorts of things. I don't mean you, man.

Have you invested in one? That's why you call it T's Coney Island. Um, yeah, I invested, I invested in one of my area. call it t's coney island um oh yeah i invested i invested in one in my area okay okay yeah smart yeah michelle the one i the one i grew up walking to like before school type you know how'd you just approach him like yo man i want to buy part of the business no like i want to be a part of this like this this coney right here is significant you know what i'm saying to me and my upbringing you know i'm saying

so i just want to be a part of it you feel me they was rocking with me you know first day out was your biggest record right did you ever think that you would beat the success of first day out because it's it's a club staple yeah radio record yeah but you did it yeah so did you ever think that you would beat that man i that's one song i can say, like, I performed that song. The reaction is like it came out yesterday. You feel me? Yeah. My goal in life, you know what I'm saying, when it comes to, like, chasing my dreams with this music,

it was never to outdo anything. It was to get that in the first place. You know what I'm saying? So I'm just happy to have that, you know what i'm saying so i'm just happy to have that you know i'm saying and continue to let that be the car that drive the other content that i put out did that song put pressure on you like because you know you came out the gate jay-z tweeting about it like it put pressure on you to keep making that level of music no because i don't see i don't look at it i don't look at it like that i look at it as the blessing that it is. And I'm just grateful for it. If anything else come, then it come.

If not, then I'm grateful for it because it saved and changed my life to this day. Everybody that's locked up does a freestyle when they get out to a first day out. Every last record. Yeah. You get tired of it, you be like, oh, here goes my record again. No, I don't be tripping. I let them do their thing. You know?

I mean, you're the second generation of artists I saw do that. First person I saw do that was Gucci, man. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Then it it was you and I saw JT did it before it seems like people do that now yeah yeah yeah I mean you got you got to come with the first day out you get locked up that's like a thing yeah but hopefully don't nobody get locked up though hopefully you got a big record moving right now I don't give an F with Chris Brown and Mariah the Scientist how'd that come? How y'all link up? Number one record, by the way, too. Number one.

Yeah, yeah, for sure. Congrats. Definitely, definitely. Thank you. So I rock with Chris Brown. I had one to his career. We was in L.A. chilling at his crib, and we was in the studio just cooking and throwing around ideas. And we had came up with that one, and we knew we needed a female on it.

You know what i'm saying and my wife had put me hip to mariah the scientist and i've been a fan ever since so i had shot it to her and she loved it killed it did her thing yeah you know and after that we went number one you got a couple records with chris brown on the on the project what's y'all energy like i mean bro just bro just a genuine dude you know i'm saying our energy a lot of times when we kick it it don't even be about music you know i'm saying we just kick it like how we talking right now we just be chopping it up now you got married pretty young most people say that's pretty young especially in this industry 28 years old how did you know she was the one you mentioned

her twice because i know you i know you were loved we seen all the wedding photos how did you know she was the one yeah so it's no such thing as somebody being the one you know shit you about to start some shit on social media with that one no listen to her it's no such thing as somebody being the one man it's this this takes effort there got to be something you want to do you got to be the one you know i'm saying you got to be the one i want to do it because they not they don't propose you do you feel me this? You got to be the one that want to do it because they don't propose. You do. You feel me? There's got to be something you want.

There's got to be something you want to do. There's got to be something that you're willing to stick with no matter what. And there's got to be something you make a choice to put effort into. You feel me? I agree with that. I agree with that. But she's still got to be special enough for you to say, this is what I want to spend the rest of my life with. Yeah, for sure.

For sure. I mean everybody's special. You feel me? There's nobody out here that's not special in they own way. You know? That's you to tell hoes? Huh? That's you to tell hoes? I don't know about no hoes. I ain't never had none. I ain't never had none.

But I like your take on that though. Like you gotta be the one. You gotta, you know, cause a lot of men always put it on a woman. Like, you know, she was the one and she wasn't it. But you're talking about the other side of it, which I appreciate that. We don't hear that ever. No, for sure, for sure. You got to want it. You got to want it, definitely.

When did you realize? What made you want to do it at that particular moment, in that particular time? So this always been a dream of mine. I always knew I was going to do this, definitely. When did you realize? What made you want to do it at that particular moment, in that particular time? So this always been a dream of mine. I always knew I was going to do this, you know what I'm saying? Because the household I grew up in, it was a lot of dysfunction, you know? And I knew that's not what I wanted. I knew I wanted to have a two-parent household

because that's what I wish I had, you know what I'm saying? I knew I wanted to be married and carry myself a certain way because that's what I wish I had. You know what I'm saying? I knew I wanted to be married and carry myself a certain way because that's what I wish I saw coming up. So growing up for me was a kind of like a lot of what not to do. And that made me want to do this. That's breaking generational crushes, my brother. They say if you come from a broken home

make sure a broken home don't come from you. Yeah. I know we talk about a lot of the success that you've had with gaming and your records, but you also had some down, well I wouldn't had some downfalls, but some negative stuff around you as well. How have you been dealing with all that? Because I know it could be a lot, especially in this industry. Yeah. Man, I just try my best not to feed into it because I know how far it could go. You know what I'm saying? It could go too far. You know what I'm saying?

And things can be broken beyond repair. So I just try my best to just stay positive and deal with it the best way I can. I feel like you've been giving, you know, you've been giving yourself, you've been becoming a life of service, basically. You've been a public servant because I saw you giving out free meals, you know, to people in Detroit. Yeah. You know, what made you want to do that?

What did that feel like? Yeah, so I've always been big on community service. Like, a lot of stuff I do, it be things that I wish somebody would have did for me. So you might hear me say that a lot. One of my guys, he opened up a restaurant, Hood Bachi, in Detroit. That's hard. Hood Bachi. Hood Bachi. Hood Bachi in the hood, too.

So I'm like, this food is amazing that y'all cooking up here you know i'm saying i want to feed a lot of people let's do an event where we just bring all the people out i pay for all the food it wasn't even a big like put together the thing it was just let's just do this that's dope hibachi hibachi it's just in the hood yeah yeah yeah that's hard yeah yeah yeah i'm noticing a lot of detroit rappers you guys have been squashing up your beefs. Was it a meeting or was it a conversation? Because it seemed not just with you and Sada Baby and a lot, but it seems like everybody's doing it, which I think is dope for the city. Because one time, if you're on one side of town, you can't go on this side of town.

But now it seems like you guys have been healing those negative energies. How has that been? How was those conversations? I mean, it's been good you know some stuff went too far to turn back from and some stuff can still be reconciled you know and we love our city and whether we say it or not we love each other you know i'm saying and everybody want to see everybody win because it just make us look better as a whole you know i'm saying when something good happened for the city and make all of us look better as a whole. You know what I'm saying? When something good happens for the city,

it makes all of us look better and do better. The Lions would have won. My prices would have went up. You know what I'm saying? So it just – Did that hurt you? That's what we all want to see. No, it ain't hurt me.

I was happy they had a great season, man. You know what I'm saying? They ain't did this since before I was born. Did you bet on it with anybody? No, I ain't bet on it, though. Okay. I ain't bet on it, no. How do you deal with a situation when you know it's gone too far?

Like, like, like when you say certain things have gone too far and you can't reconcile them. So what do you do? You just leave it alone? Ignore it? What do you do? Unfortunately, it just gotta, it gotta be, uh, somebody gotta come out a winner. No.

Unfortunately. I mean, it's too far to, okay. So listen, if something went too far to turn back from, and we both have to be here, and we both know we're going to eventually run into each other, somebody's got to win. Somebody's got to lose. That's life, though. This has been happening since the beginning of time.

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Like, man, I ain't got to deal with that no more. I ain't got to worry about that no more. Or a win could be something else. A win could be, I don't know. It could be something else. Because did they let it go? Just because you let it go, don't mean he let it go. Exactly.

So, yeah. Exactly. Yeah, a win can't be putting yourself in a position where you not here. No, for sure. You know what I mean yeah for sure yeah but also some stuff can't be reconciled because even if it do things might have went

too far for you to even be comfortable around this person so you might still feel something some tension and you will always feel that so at what point do you stop the robbery series I don't know I think when they stop asking me for it, when they ask me to end it,

because they be yelling at me about the robbery. You don't feel like you might be speaking things into existence a little bit? No, because I've started, like, speaking in third person on there. Got you. You know what I'm saying? Making up characters and fake names. So none of this stuff is happening to T. You know what I'm saying? This is happening to the characters none of this stuff is happening to T you know what I'm saying

these happening to the characters I made up so I ain't speaking it toward myself is that something you gonna turn into one of them Detroit hood movies

like a Tubi movie yeah no but because Detroit got their own genre like yeah yeah I don't know the opportunity presents itself

to probably so for sure but Tubi is like popping I would like to see that as the movie like Tubi is like Detroit Hollywood would like to see that as the movie like Tubi is like Detroit Hollywood

especially Detroit yeah absolutely between Detroit and Cleveland you know you know it's the same eight niggas killing each other

in different ways but I'm telling you it is definitely one of the most popping networks that I be on I be watching I watch Tubi everyday

I put him on with it yeah yeah Tubi like that Tubi like that yeah everybody know about toby i love it how's fatherhood changed you what's your child like two now right three uh yeah he just turned three um fatherhood i wouldn't even say change i'd say like enhanced what was already there you know because i already was kind of polished a little bit from the learning from the mistakes I made and just knowing how to move and stuff like that and I would say it enhanced all of that it enhanced my heart it enhanced my wisdom you know I'm saying it enhanced my empathy all that type of stuff how

important is it for you know your son to carry your name he's the third right yeah he's the third yeah it's it's it's super important it's so crazy because um i remember i was real young i don't even remember how old i was but my granddad who passed told me to do that and i always told myself like that i hope i remember this by the time i have a kid because i was so young and i remember to do it so he told you that very like yo make sure your son yeah he like yeah he told me to do that for sure wow what does that i mean what's that legacy mean, though? Man, it means everything. But it's different for you than it was for your father.

Yeah, it means everything because we're continuing to turn the name into something more and more positive. You know what I'm saying? So it means everything. But I wouldn't put no pressure on him. Like, you have to absolutely do this. You know what I'm saying? But it means a lot for our name to continue to go in a positive

direction dope at one time you said you would wish you could take back all the DM's you sent yeah what was in them DM's that you would send in the mass DM's anything not even that the reason I said I wanted to take it away it ain't even cause I was saying nothing crazy

you know what I'm saying cause I don't like to say nothing I don't say nothing crazy to where you know say you feel me is it your paper trail I want to take all of them away cuz I don't know who I said something to you know I'm saying it's people out there who I forgot I even did I just wish I could take all of it back what were you saying what I got unsend the thing I don't know who all idea oh yeah and if they already opened them and stuff. You feel me? Yeah.

It might be somebody out there like, look, this him right here and I already forgot about it. Yeah. And probably would never even go on their page again. You can say it's AI now. That's a bot. Yeah, you don't even gotta claim it was you. I was calling Coney Island and that's a Detroit staple,

but you don't have a lot of Detroit artists on the album. You got two, right? Skilla Baby. Yeah. Cash Doll on the Deluxe. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, two. What was that, purposeful?

I don't know if it was purposeful, but I don't go out of my way and try to chase people down and get stuff. If it happened, then it happened. Them two was just genuine when it happened. I'm open to do something with anybody for sure but I don't really like just having to chase people down or none of that you know what I'm saying yeah it's a song on album what's that featuring the late PNB rock how did that come about did he record that before his passing or did um yeah so we made that

together before his passing so when I was on I was in a I was living in the valley at the time and um and Cali and um bro stayed next door to me I didn't even know he was he had told me come over his house like a few months before I moved in and when I was moving I'm like dang this place look familiar I've been here before but I ain't paid too much attention to it then I seen him taking out the trash in his girl house shoes i clowned on him for that for like three months you know i'm saying we're taking out trash in this girl's house oh i thought you said out his girl's house i ain't even here no no he had her house shoes on taking out the trash and i was just you know i'm saying that was some little insider but he had a studio in his crib and um we had one there we

just always record stuff yes he was he was at your wedding right one of the one of the best engagement party yeah how do how do y'all feel safe like in places like la because y'all not from there and you've seen you know unfortunately the pop smokes and the pmb rocks like you know why why why not be someplace that you more comfortable yeah um one thing about california is is big enough to where you don't have to see nobody you don't want to see. You don't have to bump into nobody you ain't supposed to bump into. So if you bump into these people,

then you probably put yourself in a position to bump into these people. You know what I'm saying? So you have no desire to be just going in the hood just to say you there? No, not just to say I'm there. There's people who I rock with over there. I might pull up and mess with them, but ain't nobody expecting me. I ain't making a public announcement that I'm going. You know what I'm saying?

And by the time somebody heard that I was over there, I'm probably already gone. How dangerous is it to be a rapper nowadays? It depends on how you're moving. You feel me? It could be just as dangerous as being the president or it could be just as safe as nobody knowing you just a regular person it depends on how you move and how you put yourself out there and what type of enemies you're making along the way and how are you dealing with all your trauma with all because pmb rock was a close friend and your manager that passed. How are you dealing with that trauma?

Yeah, so I do a lot of healing things. You know what I'm saying? Love to hear that. Yeah, I do a lot of healing things for sure. A couple people I want to just shout out with that. My sister, Tiara. We do certain things that kind of heal traumas. Like sit down with certain medicines and just get that stuff, release all that stuff.

What'd you do? DMT, shrooms, ayahuasca? Ayahuasca. Oh, you did ayahuasca? Yeah. Tell us about that experience. Man, it was powerful, man. Yeah? It was super powerful, yeah.

It's like, it's something in us, right, that already knows what to do with the medicine once it's inside you. And it does exactly what it's supposed to do. You know what I'm saying? And it's, it just works perfectly. You know what I'm saying? The medicine is perfect for you. It's kind of like a facial recognition on your phone.

Once it get inside your body and it just unlock things. You feel me? And the thing about it is once it teach, once you learn what it teaches you or once it show you whatever you need to see because it works for everybody individually, different ways. It's on you to remember this stuff. Did you, did you detox beforehand and like, cause you set your intention and all of that? Yeah, for sure. No, we did it. It was very ceremonial how we did it. You know what know i'm saying like it was a room that we was in you couldn't even bring certain technology devices in here

you um couldn't even step in here if you was in a certain frequency like be super positive when you step in this room we want to keep this energy a certain way did you poop and vomit on yourself as well they said that's that's you know that's that's that's what the duck flower i ain't did that one yet i'm a little intimidated it's different kinds different types to do yeah yeah yeah who turned you on to it who turned me on to it my wife turned me on to it really yeah no but she knew about it and she was like we should do this together did it make you anxious no it ain't it ain't made me anxious at all it just it just it just made me like it just woke me up to a lot of stuff.

It woke me up to not only how powerful we are, but how certain things shouldn't even bother us and how great life can be once you see it a certain way. Did you see God? Yeah. Everybody that does this tell me they saw God. Yeah, for sure. A thousand percent.

What did it look like? It was just light. That's what somebody else told me. The exact same thing. It was just light, bro. Yeah. And you did it where? Because a lot of people go overseas.

You did it in California? I did it in DR. The Dominican Republic. Oh, wow, wow, wow, wow. Did God speak to you? Yeah, it's crazy because when he spoke, I couldn't hear it. And it was like, it was an angel. And I asked, like, why I can't hear what he's saying? It was like, because his voice is too powerful. It was like, you couldn't hear it. And it was like, it was Angela. And I asked, like, why I can't hear what he's saying?

It was like, because his voice is too powerful. It was like, you couldn't handle hearing that. Oh, you was talking to the shaman? No, I was talking to the other figure, the entity that I saw that was there with me. So it was another figure with you while you were talking to him? Yeah, that took me up to God. Like, let's go see him.

You know what I'm saying? And you were having conversations like this while you were? Yeah, because because I'm asking I'm a person who asks a lot of questions yeah so I'm asking a lot of questions like where we going yeah yeah what's that you know what I'm saying people told me when you do it it's not you don't feel like high it's like you're fully aware where you are but you're fully aware you someplace else because it's it's not high it's not high it's like imagine you going into like a, a body of water. You know what I'm saying? And your purpose of going here is to come out with some jewels, some knowledge.

You know what I'm saying? So you're not getting high. Can you do it again? Or this is a one-time thing? This is something you only do once. No, you do it again. You do it again. But this is nothing that you, this is not something that you do, like, I do shrooms all the time.

This is not something that you just do like that. No, it ain't it ain't no you do recreational you you you're not even gonna want to do a recreational right because it's like that was deep you know i'm saying you're gonna face some stuff like that was powerful you know i'm saying so yeah but see with with the psilocybin like the shrooms and stuff like that what that do i feel like that's like a heart medicine it just make you like happy and make you you able to smile at things and stuff like that yeah but like even with my experience on you know the side of Simon I've had like come to moments as well even with that so I would like to do ayahuasca

I just don't feel like it's the time for me yet because like uh to Charlamagne's point you got you'll know when you have to do it I'm excited to to do it now. I hear, but I, I've had like some of the things that you're talking about. I've had that with shrooms. Like I've been on shrooms and I've been my mother. I've been my grandmother who's passed. I've been my little sister. I've been my dad and I could see generations and generations before me, like stuff like that. Yeah.

And that's only on shrooms. So I can only imagine how the Aya is. Yeah. And that's only on shrooms. So I can only imagine how the Aya is. Yeah, no, that's deep. That's deep. Even with Aya, they say you go through generations of people

and you can heal like generational traumas through the medicine. Yeah. Yeah. You did a therapy too? Like any just regular therapy sitting down with a psychiatrist

or therapist? No, I ain't did that. I ain't did that. So everything has been plant- based for you that's dope man last question so when you do go through the ceremony are you sitting down

are you laying down are you sitting in so for me they made me sit up like sit down and um for the women that was in the room they laid down they gave me the option to lay down though have you wanted that to reflect in your music in any way yet the women that was in the room, they laid down. They gave me the option to lay down, though.

Have you wanted that to reflect in your music in any way yet? It hasn't yet because it ain't really the creativity in music, and that hasn't bridged it for me. A lot of people tell me when they do it, you know, the things that they experience you may not want to share you know they tell you to write it down in a journal but you probably wouldn't want to share that with the world just yet maybe yeah yeah i mean i i ain't really it wasn't really nothing that was worth sharing and one thing i learned like like how you say like people wouldn't want to share certain things because they ashamed of it shame was a big lesson when i was under the medicine you know i'm saying because

just growing up i always cared about like what people think and all that and one thing that the medicine taught me is like it's nothing to ever be ashamed of because anything about you you didn't ask for it but it's perfect for you so you should never feel shame did you see anybody that that passed away did you see your manager did you see pmb at the time um i i didn't see them too but i did see some other people who passed away though for sure damn wow yeah i can't wait from the album that was good though because he gave some healing tips but you know i mean but once again you got to do it when it calls you that's right that's not something you just say oh i need to go out there and heal like no when it calls you to it and you got brought to it by people that you trust and love.

So that's a whole different ballgame. Yeah, for sure. Well, the album, Coney Island, Tease Coney Island is out right now. And we appreciate you for joining us. It's been a long time. I know you're supposed to come here a couple of times. But thank you for joining us, brother. Yeah, man.

I appreciate y'all for having me, man. Congrats on the number one record again. Thank you. All right. It's the breakfast. Matter of fact, let's get into the record. I know you got a new record you're working on. So what you want to get into now?

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