The Breakfast Club - INTERVIEW: The LOX Talk Brotherhood, Using Lyrics As Evidence, Biggie's Mentorship, Diddy + More

Episode Date: December 5, 2023

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D-Block. L-O-X is here. Styles P, Chic Looch. Absolutely. What's going on? What's up, y'all? Kiss got diarrhea. Damn. Kiss got diarrhea.

That ain't a rough night. That's crazy. Yeah, he just got back and said he ain't feeling well. I didn't know he had that, though. He had some beef. He had some beef. He ain't supposed to be eating no red meat. That's what happened?

Maybe. I don't know. How y'all feeling? How's everything? Felt great, man. Blessed. Woke up today, man. Great.

Yeah. Absolutely. Y'all here celebrating How's everything? Felt great, man. Blessed. Woke up today, man. Great. Absolutely. Y'all here celebrating 25 years of Money Power Respect, the concert y'all having at the West Chester County Center. Absolutely. Saturday, December 16th. The 16th. Be there. Beach Square is going to be amazing.

We coming back home, man. That place is going to be crazy, man. That's the first time y'all performed there? We done it one time before, but not like this. Not ourselves. It was a rough ride at x show yeah and we came out and did a couple came straight from the hood and just went there and did it actually we've never in our whole career performed and i don't think west chester really which is damn near

hometown yeah pretty much yeah absolutely that's our backyard uh yeah shout out to big joe new life and my brother what up joe what up we we uh seen each other a few years ago and said we was going to make sure we did something together and uh opportunity popped up and it's uh fortunate enough that we were able to do it yeah and uh while i'm here please nobody called me for tickets go buy them absolutely i was gonna ask you said this is the first time so it was because before it would be a a crisis to the city with so many people trying to come that and uh that the county center is kind of the only place i could say really could hold us yeah and now you could really do something yeah the palladium the same thing the county center yeah as far as you know where we could

do a show show county center is probably the only place that could hold you know the whole of westchester and um you know we with we're part promoters with these beautiful two gentlemen that's the difference in us doing it this time and you know sometimes you don't want to do things as an artist in certain places you want to make sure you you tied into the business and um like i said we were able to speak to big john mateo and um and we've been doing shows with them for a long time pretty much most of our career especially our earlier days so to come around full circle we were somewhere i forgot we was at a concert and was like let's let's figure it out let's do some business together

like you know what i mean they also said they said yo y'all want to you want to get booked or yeah i want to do this as partners and that's that's no brainer that that was uh being in from now before get ready y'all yep let's go and for most people that don't know mateo and joe are legendary promoters started so many artists and djs like myself when i was young growing up and they put them on a place in a platform where most venue halls wouldn't give us so they've been doing it for a long time yeah yeah of course why was it important for y'all to have y'all own you know 50th year of hip-hop celebration as well as celebrate 25 years of money power and respect let's bring it home let's bring it back home they fell both they both fell in line. We're celebrating both.

When you think about it, it really didn't hit me until this year. The whole hip-hop is 50. 50 is not a big, big number. Hip-hop is a fairly... I'm 49. I just turned 49 the other day.

Hip-hop is basically a young, strong, male, male female whatever you want to call it but it's at a nice young age and for us to have 25 years in and been doing this this many years of our lives is you know more than half of our lives i'm old bro i feel like i've been doing it forever i got off the video game at like four in the morning this morning. So I'm like, yo, dude. Yo, you really a video gamer.

I'm a gamer. Yeah, he's a big time gamer. Yeah, yeah. You play Madden? Nah, I was on Assassin's Creed. Somewhere they shoot. Call of Duty.

Turning corners. Have you figured out a way to make money off it yet? Nah, well, of course I know how. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I just don't be getting on too much with these young boys, man. I be trying.

You give them your username, they be talking mad shit shit to you man young boys what you can't be too old talking on that definitely do need a chic luch video game yeah that's for sure uh lox video game that'd be definitely that'd be do you feel like the yonkers area has been represented properly in this 50th year of anniversary conversations now we've been busy yeah yeah yeah definitely we can't say no because we've been we've been we've even started we did the grammys remember like yeah the grammys before we came out at that joint oh yeah yeah yeah from the joke we've been on it all over the place every little it's been crazy every little concert every like festival everything we've been on.

Word. I was going to ask, you know, as a group, but I know you guys get these questions all the time, but as a group, you guys have, besides the albums and the projects and the good material that you put out, y'all haven't had any internal beefs that went public, right? Word. And you guys have done anything, whether it was Wu Block, whether it was Solo, whether it was Kiss doing his own thing,

which I haven't had any internal beefs. People should really salute that more about us, right? How do y'all do that? Because most groups will be like, how do y'all do that? The closest groups get into a beef or a bicker, but y'all, nothing. Yeah, but I can tell you that, yeah. Our brotherhood comes first.

I mean, that was an oath we made coming in the game, and we stuck by it, because if a lot of people you let material material items money and other people being in your air separate you uh we're brothers without this like you know what i'm saying absolutely shut the industry down today there's no more music no instagram no record sales and nothing it's still going to be the the same brotherhood between us you know we really love each other you know it's all like Joe and I'm Mateo they've been on a group text with us recently right and I know y'all see the difference

between us and a bio as far as like like we talked to each other in the morning like yo what you doing you gonna hit the trail you're gonna do this you're gonna what you doing how you working out um yo kiss that ain't feeling well styles to tell them like yo eat this do this and that like it's I guarantee these other people ain't talking like that with each other. Have no interest in even, like, how you feel, you know? Even when it comes to music, right? Like, there's songs where there's only been two members on.

Or there's songs where there's only been one member on. And nobody's ever got an attitude or felt the way, or is it just whoever got the hottest verse is what it is. Word up. I'm happy when my bros is shining. If he win, I win. Like, if you keep that mentality, if Kiss win, me and him will win.

Absolutely. Whoever wins, it's a win for the whole team. Yeah, when we get on a song, we aim to bust each other's ass. Absolutely. I never ever want you

to immediately go chic or Kiss had a better verse than you. Never. I'm on it. But when it happens, I'm happy and I can accept it and it is what it is and it's like, all right, we. I'm on it. But when it happens, I'm happy. Absolutely.

And I can accept it, and it is what it is. And it's like, all right, we'll be in the studio. I'll be like, all right, you got that one. Yeah. I'll see you on the next record. Yeah. I think you have to have a healthy line of communication and be goal-oriented.

Then you have to remember when you was broke together. Like, we come from busting down a Chinese plate. Oh, man, he love that. We have, though. Yeah. Chicken wings, rice, dough. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Get the cutter, man.

Cut that three ways, dog. You know what I mean? So when you're used to that, a win's a win. So we all win when one wins. So even when y'all talk about missing songs, right? Like, shit, you don't ever feel the way even when Benjamin's come come on now because you're in that's me that feels the way when benjamin's come on i'm gonna i'm not on it yeah yeah you in the video though nah but i had a whole bunch of them stories i told him that i didn't show up too or i wasn't on that that song him and mariah and all that i'm on the benjamin's though yeah you want benjamin

that's not on benjamin yeah nah i mean it it wasn't meant to be. But we still rocking anyway. He's doing it. I'm doing it. I'm gonna do it. I'm gonna do his hypes. I'm gonna do the ad-libs. And we getting the same bag. We gonna get the same bag. We gonna bust it down. Diddy. Yeah I ain't make it. I ain't make it. That's not how to happen. Yeah well I guess. Diddy's on it I'm not you the kiss roll did he verse put the whole song together she says she we came in puffers playing the track we didn't think we really want the track he's Missy say yo let me hear you spit today I said strictly trying to cop

those it wasn't for that. Everybody just rapped and all that and Missy was like, yo, we gonna do you on this joint. We gonna do that and then you gonna write

Puff's verse and that's how that went and then like, I don't know what style is like how that went. Word, right? Right then and there. Did you write a verse to it?

Yeah, yeah he did. Can't remember what it was. Missy told you not to. Missy put the old joint there. So you got people Missy that. I love Missy. you not Missy put the old joint this person she beatbox in it all that Missy I love you look great right now but yeah that's how that happened like who is this like we didn't even know her if I didn't really what was crazy I didn't know it was I didn't like the beat yeah none of us I didn't I really didn't like

the beat like at the time like you know what I mean and it was uh he did a hundred remixes fast that fuzz bubble on remember the rock from Styles I'm mad about the Benjamins and if I'm chic I'm mad about we gonna make it we gonna make a word do you remember we gonna make it when I went they was in the hood they was in um Rough Riders' studio. I walked in there like, what y'all doing? You know,

they said that beat was playing. They come in and out. I'm like, oh, man. All right, y'all, I'll catch y'all. Just went back to the block. Like, yo, I thought he was gonna say

like Mariah or something like that. Nah, We Gon' Make It. We Gon' Make It, right? All right, cool, cool. You didn't want to be on it? Hell yeah, they would've invited me.

I went there that day. How did that happen? How you going to bust it down a Chinese plate and not invite him on that record? I was probably in the hood, whatever, whatever, and then I came to the studio. Lucha's like, Kish is social. He's anti-social, and I'm the one in between.

Okay, okay. So Lucha have a, if it's a lot of people, and a lot of people he don't want to be around, like, you know what i mean so the studio some days he'll come out of there depending that was the whole rough ride who was there like you know what i mean yeah um like everything happens for a reason because we wouldn't have d block studios if it wasn't for luch like he was the one with the vision let's get our own place, let's get it, so we could always rock and have a certain feeling and a certain environment and be in control of it and not have to pay for hourly rates somebody else.

So that's pretty much how it happened. I forgot, what album is we going to make it on? That's a good damn question. Kiss album. I think it's a kiss album. It was a kiss album. Absolutely. Kiss the gang kiss out i think it's a kiss out kiss out kiss you don't want to ask about a couple of dmx records too because sheik you won't get at me dog you remember when y'all recorded that yeah i came well was he mad stories x wasn't in the studio right there when i got young want to be killers get out i went down and they called me irving them called me said yo i need you come write this hook

and i went down and wrote the hook did it got in the booth because i heard earth say before like yo nah uh he wrote the hook or like then i heard d say he wrote the hook yo listen yeah man but yeah it was my people's who you get the publishing i wrote that hook man yeah yeah absolutely y'all want to be killers get at me dog all that hook man oh yeah niggas want the rail yeah and styles you was on um used to be my dog you was in my left yeah but you weren't credited on the album I don't remember you I don't remember your name being on now yeah we barely even looked at credits back then that's the crazy yes Wow I didn't say featuring style at least at the time it didn't yeah Kiss is on there too right

nah it's just it's X and U no Kiss is on the hook Kiss is on Kiss is on that hook Kiss is the one doing the hook the raspy voice

yeah that's Kiss I thought that was you doing the hook no that was Jadakiss nah Kiss did the I think I may be on it with him used to be my dog

he was in it no you got a verse actually I got a verse yeah I got a verse you got a verse but it don't say featuring style?

Yeah, I love you too, Ja. Ja? Yeah, the song was about Ja. Was it? You didn't know that? God damn, yo, yes it was. What the hell? Was it?

No. Are y'all kidding me? I don't even know if he know that. No, I didn't know that. No, Ja, I don't think Ja know that. Yes, he do. All right. Wow.

Y'all kidding me? Y'all making me feel like i'm in the meeting yes it was wow what was that about action jaw having beef they was dogs like there was dogs let me get in this joint real quick let me throw some dogs you just jumped on the label you my man got beef i got beef that's how it goes yeah that's how the most time that's how it is that's how it is right he he's in got beef that's how it goes yeah that's how the most time that's how it is right he he's in it and i'm in it with him that's what that's that's how we gonna give it up that's funny though all right breaking news when you when you do these that ain't breaking

news ain't nobody know that man i think i definitely didn't know that yeah i had to know that you listen to the listen to the uh listen to the lyrics i to go back and listen to it now. When we leave here. Damn. Listen, when y'all do shows like the 25-year show, is it bittersweet because so many of your people aren't here? Nah. They're paying pivotal moments? Well, you mean like X? X is gone big, like stuff like that?

Yeah. Yeah, certain people, but not everybody. Not everybody. Not everybody, dog. We ain't going to say it like that. We're not going to say it like that. Pretty much every show we rep X and big anyway. Yeah.

You know what I mean? We make sure to do that. And when we go do a show, we go out and have a good time. We're going to give a good time. We're going to give a good time for the crowd. And just in general, not the shows, though and just in general not the shows though but in general sometimes you sit in and you know you you definitely wish those folks were still around like uh yeah not a lot of MCS could get the save they've been

around directly around big and directly around X when big when big pass it was it was incredible like crazy but like with X, with me, it's more like, I can't believe that he ain't here. You giving a saying the difference? Like, I can't believe X ain't here, you know? Yeah, X, like, you know, we from the same town. Yeah. Big was our big brother industry-wise.

Right. X is the reason we were on in the first place. So that's what makes X so x so much in our heart like he he was connected with rough riders first uh he brought rough riders to us that's the rough riders whatever however you want to say then we ended up getting on first and x never showed a bit of bitterness never showed any uh no pun intended but he never showed envy he never showed any sort of ill feelings he was happy for us and he had the confidence in what he met his presence knowing what he could do like you know what I mean then as you see

when he got in the industry kicked the door all the way down ten is that comes in and all of that stuff so and spot especially the things he did you know shit we went from beatboxing and banging on mailboxes and having that same passion of sort of make it you know make it it's a whole nother thing so yeah like uh it was it was crazy to when when he went i actually got uh i actually called his ex-wife when it when it happened because a police officer i knew was on the scene and he gave me a call because i was the only one yeah i remember that night i was the only phone number he had so i probably was like one of the first people to know and had to reach out to other people so it was kind of a very shocking moment to say the least

i want to ask you know I was having this argument in conversation Biggie as a lyricist where do you rank Biggie as a lyricist as far as all these MCS cuz the best that's what I said I think a lot of people don't see it because they don't hear it as much but when it's a it's a simple answer why he's the best and there's a lot of great lyricists um across the world i feel he had the most different categories and styles he could fit under so he could rap gangster he could give you a bones thug joint he he could give you something for the ladies he'd give you something yardie he just had a lot of different categories storytelling storytelling i think most great mcss are great at two things,

maybe three things maximum. I think he was very well-rounded with his ability to catch different pockets, styles, his wordplay, and just his flamboyance. But he had intricate details when he said something. You know what I mean? So I put him, for me, he's always my number one. He just didn't have a lot of music.

He didn't have a lot of music. That's probably why there's any kind of debate on anything. He kind of did. He had, what, three albums? Yeah. But these guys got catalogs nowadays, man. You know? You know, 25 years of Money Power, Respect.

I don't know why, but in my mind, I felt like as a consumer, we always felt like y'all didn't like that album. Especially when you started the whole We Are The Street. Money Power? Yeah, I always felt like y'all didn't like that album. I love that album. Yeah, it was cool. I love the album.

I didn't like that we didn't have the control we wanted. And just being in the situation. We came in, we had to listen to like, what's hot in Houston? What's hot in Detroit? And this and that. You got to make a song like this and that. We had no plans on rapping like that.

You know what I mean? But you know, you're like, yo, listen, Playboy, you got to do this over here. And then this song is going to pop over here. We like, all right, cool. You know, that's the direction we was going. Rob Markman I guess because y'all shitted on the shiny suit era so much. You know, people felt like-

Rob Markman We had to be strategic in the jiggy. I guess because y'all shitted on the shiny suit era so much. Yeah. You know, people felt like. We had to be strategic. And the jiggy. The jiggy, yep, yep, yep. We had to be strategic. And if you're going to go to war with somebody, you got to really, especially if somebody with more money than you, you have to kind of sit back, think, and evaluate ways to strategically

make your point of views and make people want to ride with you. So, you know, people, you got to think think at the time before we put out our first album, we did a lot of mixtape shit. So a lot of people... That's where we came from. That's where we came from. So a lot of people were used to us digging in a certain way. So the mixtape wasn't the same thing as what you were getting there.

So it was like when we flip, we need a few strategies to be able to take this war on mm-hmm how hard was one of it how hard was it you guys to do jiggy right so I want you to break it down so at the time of course your body to every mixtape your body in every feature banned from TV you name it and when puff puts on if you think I'm gonna put on Puff didn't put on Jiggy. I'll play that. That wasn't Pharrell. One of the producers in there.

I think people, Grease didn't do it either. Grease definitely didn't do it. Grease did. Who did the beat? It says Grease on the track list. Grease did Jiggy? That's what it says. No, Pharrell did the remix. It was a remix.

I don't know who played it. I can't remember who it is, but we weren't, we weren't against the idea. I can tell you that straight, straight up because, uh, we liked the Rod Stewart song,

um, that it originated from. So we was with it. It really, uh, it was an environment. I ain't love it too, too much.

I ain't dislike it. I ain't love it too, too much. It's not a bad record at all. No, it's not a little then we run through the caves and all that what was that right I didn't like the leather yeah I remember that I didn't like the leather. Yeah.

I remember that. I didn't like the wardrobe. But making a song, I was. It put us in a different tax bracket. It did what, you know. You don't get to the, you know, if you, it's like playing street ball and then going to the Chicago Bulls. You got to listen to what the coach in them is saying and see what the formula is. But, you know, I love Money Power Respect, to be honest with you.

I love that album. And the reason I love it because that term still sticks up until today. Absolutely. There's plenty of young artists who, you know, Money Power Respect. Like, you kind of know. Off that model. Yeah, a lot of people live off that model. So it was worthwhile.

Was Biggie around for any of the making of that, of money, power, respect? I don't remember. I don't think so. I want to say no. I don't think so. Mm-hmm. I don't, no.

Do you think the trajectory of being on Bad Boy would have been different if Biggie was still around? Fat, absolutely. A still around? Absolutely. A thousand percent. Absolutely. A thousand percent because we had an organic connection. We had a very organic connection. Big was a beautiful soul. He was a very classy, charismatic dude because he didn't have to embrace us.

We're from Yonkers, New York. So the minute he heard us rhyme, I'll never forget. He was like, y'all mother effers rhyme, rhyme. I'm glad y'all here. And to hear somebody that achieved that much success say that to people he didn't know.

And then we just kind of like, you know, we bring our weed, we bring what we drink. He was a boss up there too. Yeah, he was. To be clear. He used to tell Puff like, yo, not to, we bring our weed, we bring what we drink. He was a boss up there, too, to be clear. He used to tell Puff, like, yo, not to cut you off and shit, but, yo, nah, Puff, that ain't them. Nah, they got to do this.

Nah, they got to have them stay over here. Nah, like, you know, he was like, when people were scared to even say stuff to Puff, he was saying, he was like that. He had a best interest. It could have went either way. Say we did, you know, he had a label, you know. Like, say we in the little midi room and he's in the big room he said come on

come over here man smoke drink let's light up let's get right and you know so it was cool even for him to request us on his second um you know it's pulled up to like a club we had a show or something and played us our lyrics when the song was done. I said, that's hard. Wow. Right outside. So if he was alive, Money, Power, Respect would sound like a whole different. I would assume so.

I definitely would assume so. Now since it's the holiday season, Styles, how did you get the name Holiday Styles? Oh, I was born on a Thanksgiving. Okay. Then I used to be a little stupid. So it kind of reminded people of Doc Holliday. Doc Holliday.

Oh, okay. So between being born on Thanksgiving and a cowboy, so to say. Got you. Wow, cowboy. Got you, got you Wow cowboy I was gonna ask you know with everybody given parts of areas around New York so much flack right they always talk about the five boroughs for people that's in Long Island is difficult for people in Jersey is difficult but for yonkers is never difficult it just seems why do you think

that is what you mean difficult like difficult? For instance, you look at an artist from Long Island, an artist from upstate New York. They're not considered New York. Oh, yeah. But nobody ever said that about y'all. Because people always confuse us to be from somewhere else. So it was more so like, I ain't from Brooklyn or the Bronx. And I think it's our attitude.

And shout out to our sister, Mary Blasch. You know, she kicked in the door for Yonkers. I think that kind of let people know how soulful we were and what was going on. And then I think it's just the attitudes of the artists who's made it big from there. There's a lot of big artists from Yonkers, too, besides us. I believe Gaga's from Yonkers. Ella Fitzgerald's from yonkers ella fitzgerald's from yonkers uh one of the arrow smith of lead leads is from yonkers but i think just being from the place gives you a certain sort of grit and like if this is the bronx across the street that's yonkers right

here really mount vernon mount vernon is right there but i think uh i think it's just our Bronx across the street that's y'all can't really my Vernon my Vernon's right there but I think uh I think it's just our grittiness I would say our grittiness it is new rock and CL and all of them and we did a lot of stupid things early in our career you remember yeah many people kind of didn't matter we always from yeah yeah the respect what we was doing like I was gonna ask that we didn't come we didn't come soft hearted

and tender footed anywhere you make me nervous sometimes when I read your stories I be like oh boy where you gonna

cause sometimes people piss you off styles and I'm like oh boy please don't bring back the old styles

you make it sound like that's up to date the old me that's a couple months ago the old me I chill I chill out you know how did y'all That's up to date. The old me. That's a couple months ago. The old me.

I chill. I chill out. You know. How did y'all feel about Fat Joe saying he lied in about 95% of his songs? I ain't mad at him. Yo, dog, I ain't mad at him. That's what it is. I mean, listen, like he said, it is entertainment. You know.

I didn't hear the whole thing. Like he said He also said They don't come at De Niro and You know All these people In their movies like that So I get it

And it shouldn't be All the lyrics Shouldn't not be used in court And all that Cause we all entertaining We all like making Stuff up here and there You know

Especially as you get older It's like dog Come on man I ain't killed R&B singers is lying In 95% of their songs Absolutely Country singers are lying.

Country may be harder than rap. You ever listen to country music? Absolutely. They be saying some gangster shit. Why we got to be lying, though? We getting creative. Like you said, we getting creative, no? It ain't creative.

We writing like, yo, this is fire. Jackson 5 got one of the greatest Christmas albums of all time. Yeah, I heard you say that. And it was your hope of winning. That's crazy. I don't have a problem with it. I think the problem is with anything that's cultural and black or brown, where it's created with that, we get put on a pedestal different than the whole world.

And it's like its own set of rules, which is really sort of unfair. Like, you know what I mean? It is a fine line you have to walk being an artist, but you are, at the end of the day an artist like i think people seem to seem to forget that but i think with all of the things that happens in the black and brown communities that people tend to put you on a pedestal that they want you on and then when you don't live up to it that kind of upsets them. But it is what it is. People have to start... Plain and honest, artists are human beings.

I think people think... Yeah, well, we got to go through all that. Yeah, like... It's crazy. They eat shit, sweat, sleep, just like you do. They're just famous. That doesn't make them more of a special person than to you, the listener,

who's out there listening right now. An artist is not a better human being, a more worthy human being than you. They're artists. That's it. They're good at an art and they're famous for it, but that doesn't mean they're the next born leader of the free world. That doesn't mean the words they say are relevant for everyone's living.

That doesn't mean the things they say. They want us to raise y'all kids, man. You got to raise your own kids. You got to be responsible. You should know what artists your kids are listening to. You should sit down with them, have a conversation about it. You should sit down and have conversations with them about reality and what's not reality.

Because like you said, they never say anything to the actors, the directors. They never even say nothing to the actors, the directors. They never even say nothing to the record labels who are putting out the artists. They never say nothing to the radio stations. They never say nothing to the magazines, but you're gonna hold the poor kid from the ghetto responsible for trying to make it

doing what he knows is popular genre. And America loves violence. The shit is built off of violence. Everybody loves Al Capone, John Dillinger, John Gotti. They're not black. America loves sex and violence. And money, it sells. It's a natural thing.

But when it comes to black, it always reverts back, which is understandable because we have a right, a duty to take care of our community. But sometimes you got to let a person grow into that or sometimes you got to let a person not do it because that's not in their heart. So why do you want somebody to do something that's not in their heart, that's not sensible?

I think we put too much pressure on artists to be real, like to live up to their lyrics. You know what I mean? If we just looked at it as entertainment, we wouldn't care, but then every now and then you get the rare brothers like yourself who really come from that. Absolutely.

So we expect everybody to be like that. Yeah. And that's kind of, you know, I think the average citizen doesn't understand the inner plays of the industry. So that's where really it gets a little confusing. You know what I mean? Some people are telling their stories. Some people are telling their stories. Some people are telling their stories

with enhancements on it. Some people are telling other people's stories. At the end of the day, it's art and you shouldn't base your life upon somebody else's art. Let's be clear. I know some of the young people don't even want to hear what we talking right now.

That's OG. That's old man Looch talking right now. You know what I mean? Because they right at home like, man, you know how much they told us to do this and that? To raise us up for this and that? Looch talking right now. You know what I mean? Because they right at home like, man, you know how much they told us to do this and that to raise us up for this and that? I get that all the time.

You know what I mean? So like, come on. I get it. But just be careful, y'all. Because they watching and they listening and they trying to... Yeah, but you ain't stupid neither.

That's what I'm doing. We come from an era this is where generational shit gets lost. You come from an era where you yourself should know right from wrong and make the decision

if you want to pay the consequences and repercussions to that right or wrong and then you make the move from there your gut tells you you know you should know what what to do and what not to do when i did stupid shit i knew it was stupid shit to do i knew i may have to fight you know face certain consequences and i was with it and growth and maturity get you out of that but you ain't got to act like you're not that bright if you're just going to listen up to another rap and decide i'm going to go do the same bro is you know it's not a lot of glory in gangster life let's just be real about it that's just high those styles yeah they high they on third party drug it's the the crack babies, babies on chemicals.

But who's crazier though? The kids that are high are y'all because y'all was doing a lot of that and y'all weren't high. Y'all was just psychopaths. That's true. No influence, right? No influence or nothing. You ain't lying.

I'm going to let Glassman Malone say that. Glassman Malone be like, yo, people that be on Sherm, they was wilding in L.A. He was doing a lot of stupid stuff, and he never got drunk and never got high. So who's crazier? It's the times, man.

It's the times, and it's the aggression, and the things you went with. That's why, as you say, I agree with you. It's important for people to get some form of therapy, even if you in the hood. Hood dudes need therapy is what it really is. And we used to have therapy, like, say, coming up ourselves. Like, they don't do this.

I don't think the kids would even know what we talk about, but we used to build. We used to sit there, have conversations, and build, and say, all right, at least be able to share our dreams with each other. And we had OGs with common sense, some kind of common sense. Yeah, to say, yo, that's stupid, young'un. These, you know, these kids, they don't respect the elders,

but the elders, they kind of paved the way to not be respected. So it's a 50-50 thing, like. Nah, that's real, because who's the equivalent of the 5%ers in the hood? Yeah, ain't no OGs telling them what to do or say or like some kind of advice, man. Even when these young boys be dissing like the older rappers and all that, be like, ain't nobody ins telling you what to do or say or like none of that some kind of advice man even when

these young boys be dissing like the older rappers and all that but like ain't nobody in their crew stopped them they said yo dog you don't know who this is you know they don't have that and but that's not that shows how wise they aren't either because they're not respecting how time goes if you don't respect somebody's history when it's time for your history to be respected it won't be respected yeah and that's the part they ain't getting so they ain't they ain't really thinking they're on drugs like you say it's the chemicals now was it was home supposed to be respected it won't be respected yeah and that's the part they ain't getting so they ain't they ain't really thinking they on drugs like you say it's the chemicals now was it was hove supposed to be on the money power respect album and what happened someone cleared he laid the verse and everything for money power respect that record oh it's not money respect another record it's a whole

um i think uh i wanna i wanna thank you i wanna thank you yeah wow i wanna thank you hove had a verse on that you played that back then you had I wanna thank you. Wow. I wanna thank you. Hov had a verse on that. You played that back then, you had that? You had that, I know. I'm talking about, yeah. It just never came out. You had Hov on it? Yeah.

Yeah, it wasn't cleared. It wasn't cleared. Oh, so y'all still got that line around somewhere. Absolutely. Wow. It's out there, yeah. Who wouldn't clear it, Hov? I have no idea.

He laid it. Yeah. He laid it, so I don't know if it was the sample. The sample, maybe? It was something with the, I believe it was something with the sample. It was encore. Yeah. It was the encore beat, right?

Yeah. I believe it was something with the sample. And I can't really remember back then, but it had something to do with the sample. And if we wanted to drop or not drop, and then, you know, paying people and some other crap. I wanted to ask y'all about Andre 3000, too, saying that being that he's 48, what is he going to rap about? Nah, so much to talk about, Dre. It's a lot, man.

Just how you word it and put it. You know, you don't got to, of course we ain't talking about being in the hallways or trapping and all that too much no more. Like, you know what I mean? But it's a lot. People want to know what you've been going through. Yeah, what you've been...

Rapping about his travels. They want to know about your lifestyle and his travels and all that. Rapping about his thought pattern. Yeah, absolutely. They want to hear from you, been going through. Yeah, what you've been... Rapping about his travels. They want to know about your lifestyle, and they travel and all that. Rapping about his thought pattern. Yeah, absolutely. He's one of the greatest... They want to hear from you, God. Put something out, man.

He's one of the greatest to ever do it. He could have rapped over the flute beats. Yeah. Straight up, man. He killed it. Over air instruments. I think even rapping about what is he going to rap about

is a good point of view, because it gives different people different perspectives. Now, so I gotta ask, go back to the concert. So of course the concert is Saturday, December 16th at the Westchester County Center. Locks and friends. 25 years of Money Power respect.

Now that you guys are putting this on with the promoters. Now friends, who are the friends? We bringing out the queen. We ready, we ready? What's happening? We bringing out the queen with us. The queen MJB is gonna be in the building let's go so Mary J block with us you up in the line we're gonna bring a few of you up we make more announcements later

but right now Mary J all day it's gonna be crazy get your tickets now that's the first time Mary been up there in a minute absolutely get your nice outfit get your bubbly ready yeah it's smell that alone the locks and mjb up there in west chester county is gonna be stupid stupid december 16th december 16th westchester county center now locks album yeah are we getting another one absolutely when we got like a bunch of songs done now like you've always got a bunch of songs y'all are buster rhymes y'all just hoarding souls i just do songs and put them on the side uh we don't got no date i'm not like that you don't have a date we don't have a date probably uh i would say in the winter we will probably lock in in in the studio and we get uh focus focus but we do guys we got we do have material

to get in the studio nah none of us i want to say nah actually if you come up to d block it's three rooms and we all in there on the regular good you know what i mean so we're always working yeah now it was puff one of the friends but in light of the circumstances definitely not be there okay puff will not be there i'm not even playing with y'all we got to go to teams it would make sense right not right now have y'all spoke to him or no not at all nah man to my diddy staff said who oh right now no i didn't know who you meant nah i haven't spoke to him or no, not at all? Nah, man. To my diddy. I said, who? Okay, never mind. Nah, I didn't know who you meant. Nah, I haven't spoke to him. I mean, somebody should.

Somebody, somebody. No, I mean, like, somebody should reach out. I heard, because I had heard 50 say that before, right? 50's like, yo, somebody better reach out to him, man. And I think they should. That was, that was, that was crazy. Somebody, somebody definitely should.

Somebody should talk to somebody. A therapist or something. Nah, for real. Yeah, he definitely, he definitely, he definitely should definitely go talk to somebody. Absolutely.

He definitely should go talk to somebody and, probably the people he hurt. Absolutely. If they, if they'll, if they'll give him the air and time.

If he did, because it's still allegedly. You need me to tell it allegedly. Allegedly, P for now. P. Allegedly. Allegedly. Allegedly. I didn't say how he hurt or what.

I didn't even say it sexually. Just in life, everybody. Not just Puff. Everybody. Like, if you have a chance, and there's somebody you hurt in life, everybody, not just Puff, everybody. Like if you have a chance and there's somebody you hurt in life and you're in a better place in your life, it's a healthy thing to reach out and just say, you know, my fault. If you're going to hold on that kid, though.

Damn, man, every little thing, right? I'm not saying wrong or right. I'm just saying that. I read a thing. It was like, yo, Puff has sex with all his artists, big, even the locks. I'm like, damn me jump on them all right ladies and gentlemen get your tickets tickets Saturday, December 16th. I'm going to throw a chair at him.

Because he tried style. He would have never did that. He wouldn't have been here. There would have been no claims going on today. Not one claim. There would have been no problem. Mateo, Big Joe. Yo, listen.

December 16th. 25 years of Money Power Respect. Yes, sir. 50 years of hip hop. The tickets will sell out. Locks and friends, baby. This is not a 50,000 seller arena. So get your tickets early.

It will sell out. Absolutely. Don't call a group. Ticketmaster. Ticketmaster. Go to Ticketmaster. Mary, we love you. We see you soon.

It's going to be crazy, y'all. The Locks MJB and more Crayon Westchester County Center December 16th don't miss it appreciate you guys for joining us

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