The Breakfast Club - INTERVIEW: T.I. On Comedic Therapy, Mt. Rushmore Of Southern Hip Hop, Community, New Comedy Special + More

Episode Date: December 15, 2025

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Lawleros is here. Nila is here. We got a special guest in the building. The legendary. I P. What's that in there? Tip what up? What's happening, man? You just came in here and said

You wouldn't be working If you had a job. Nah, no, no, no, no. Now, no. If I lived a pair, I can have no job. I can have no job, bro. Ain't no way in the hell, man. This is quit your job with them, man.

You walk outside. Man, hell, no, God, no business. You know what I'm telling me that. If you were to grow up in New York, you wouldn't have been a D-boy? I wouldn't, I wouldn't, uh, yes. For a period of time.

For a period of time, you know what I'm saying? I would have been to seize a little trapper. You know what I'm saying? Why are you doing, brother? How's everything? I'm cooling, man. I'm cooling. If you notice, I came up here by myself this time.

Yes, you did. I came by myself this time. Because last time, we had a bit of a... Oh, I remember. We had a bit of a kerfuffle. You know what I'm saying? I came up here, dolo. That wasn't your fault, though, and you bought everybody, you know...

No, no, no, no. You were the peacemaker. They were my brothers, man. Two of the most loyal and the most masterful at their craft So they're both very passionate about what they do Both very stand up and respectable And you know what I'm saying Sometimes man lines cross

I don't think dro is getting the credit he deserved For the year that he's had Like there's been a resurgence of young dro Even on social media here people like man Young Joe can wrestle Yeah yeah yeah so it's sober dro is a different It's a different monster And he definitely man

He had a resurgence and turned their life around and has a discipline about himself now that is much different than before you know what I mean but uh and yeah you're right

he's having a phenomenal year he tore it down on that on that Metro booming project you did uh you know he and I also you know had a a very

a time on the TM88 project so you know what I'm saying we got the PSC project coming man we're gonna we're gonna put that at New Year's Eve oh yeah

Yeah, we're doing a gangster grill with drama. We're going to drop on New Year's Eve. Oh, okay. We drop it with the ball. You hear me? Okay. Yeah. Now, I do got to ask since you, y'all started about rapping.

What you got to ask about? One of your partners, Nav. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You're talking, you're talking, you're talking, yeah, I talked about Karras, one. I spoke to Nile. I spoke to Nile. I spoke to Nile. I told him he can't do it.

I said, man, you can't do that, bro. You can't do that. That's, that's egregiously unfair. You know what I'm saying? Break it down, why? And he, and he said, he said, I don't care about that. You know what I'm saying?

I said, man, no, but you can't do that. And I just keep saying it. And, you know, we're actually going to do it expeditiously about it because I think he need to be like walked through, like historically why it matters so much, you know what I'm saying? His favorite rapper is Jay Z though. Yeah, I mean, that's fine. Yeah.

I mean, that's fine. But that still doesn't, it doesn't take. away or justify the blatant disregard for, you know, the predecessors. And especially, like, the guard MC, man.

You know what I'm saying? Like, even KIA, like, you know, people are like, man, do you understand this is where it started? He's like, man, I don't care where it started. I care about what I like. But that's fine. You know, he can have his own what he likes. That's cool. But he just got to remember

where they started from where Jay-Z got his. from where these people got there. See, I think what we fail to realize is in the age of internet, people are just not careful with what they say anymore. You know what I'm saying? People say what the hell ever comes to mind. And I think that's

something that people of our generation just got to get used to. Yeah. 21 Savage was talking about that on the Big Bank interview. Okay. And he actually brought you up. He said that during your era, y'all didn't have to really deal with the internet trying to tell people who y'all were and just like say crazy things. So it's a little different for people now.

See, it wasn't the internet. We had, you know, Wendy Williams and Charlemagne and, you know what I'm saying? And other people like that telling us. You know what I'm saying? We had our set of challenges, you know, our share of, you know, our share of obstacles to overcome. It just, it's just like the success of that, people seeing how successful you can become doing that. E.J. made everybody, said, yeah, I'm going to do that too. I'm going to take it a step further.

I say, I say this. You know what I mean? And, um, they just, they didn't. Forget about all those runs. See, people stop getting hit in the face. You see what I'm saying? Like, people stop getting hit in the face. Because you can't hit them.

Where you want to hear them at? Man, you catch people everywhere, man. You know what I'm saying? We all sharing this big ball of dirt together. You never know when you catch somebody, man. You're like, oh, that go shot it right there. Yeah, I mean. You know, I think that, and I think that's okay.

I think we should normalize getting hit in the face again. Yes, because I'm not shooting. You know what I mean? Don't shoot them. Don't shoot them. Don't kill them. Because that's when I respect Watch your mouth

I respected more when a person says whatever they want to say to the person And if the person gets hit in the face They still stand on what they're saying That right, because you get hit in the face Are you still saying? I mean, I still feel how I feel I still feel

I don't care I don't care That's it You hit hard But still I still Hey How do you

You hear for comedy right No No no no I'm actually here a couple of man, man, all right, enough, I'm here because my daughter said she wanted to eat in New York restaurants. Oh, wow. So, so here we are. I thought you know, because that's when you know you got money.

You know, I'm like, you're in a New York restaurant. Come on, man. I ain't playing, man. I probably go. Where are you going to weekend? I don't know what she want to go. I'm just here, dog. You know what I'm saying?

You just came for the weekend to eat. Yeah. That niggas lie. It was like, T, I was like, T, I was here for a comedy show. I had. I got a special coming out. I got a special coming out, man, on Christmas Eve, man. It's called Cheaper than Therapy.

you know what I'm saying I got to handle my business too but yeah so cheap in the therapy everybody man you can get that on tip ain't funny.com you know just log on to tip ain't funny.com and you know what I'm saying for the nominal fee of 699 you'll be able to watch my comedy special while you at home rapping gills getting tired of your kids complaining about how my money you didn't have to spend but you did you know what I'm saying you know just entertain yourself man now all the little comedians who hate to see me in comedy and who don't like I gave I created a community for you all

a community where the haters can congregate and you can you can all get together and talk about how funny I'm not you know what I'm saying on tip ain't funny dot com What made you go that route? I tried to go to the site

Try it again Tip ain't funny.com That's why that Yeah, I'm sure you work on my phone I don't know maybe it's black in because we're in here What should be blocking me? Because sometimes our our firewall will block certain things

I have a white man It came up for me Like it didn't come up for me See I got a white man With right there What's wrong with the website Yes you were all It's right there

Tip Harris Cheaping in therapy Come in December 24 Of 2003 5th Thank you Thank you Broke ass computer Tip 8Foney.com

What are you talking about In the special? What am I talking? Man a few different thing man I'm definitely talking about You know Marriage

You know My experiences with my wife Definitely talking about being a father. Did you run that by your wife first? Did you say, babe, I'm going to talk about this, or did she hear it when she got there? Absolutely not.

Absolutely not. Why would I do? Why would I go and do that? I don't know if you want that smoke later on. You run things by your wife? If I'm going to talk about her, yeah. You do? Yeah.

If it's not the nicest thing, I think so. What you mean? Not the nicest. But that's because he got in trouble back in the day for not running something. He got hitting his face. He got hit the way. Y'all see how important get hit in the face of his thing.

He would have rattled got hit the way I got hit the way he got hit. He got hit the way it was like, I'm just saying. I'm traumatized. Tell them what you did. She hit you in the wallet. No, no, she hit you in the head. You talked about it in your book. You might as well talk about it.

Oh, yeah, no, no, you know, I stepped outside the marriage. Yeah, that's what I'm going. That's what I'm saying. And then you got on air. Oh, you want to hit the whole story. So. Yeah, let's hit the whole story. Me and my wife is going through.

I stepped out. And I was hurt. And your brother over there, Charlemagne was like, you hurt? You should call up live on the radio and apologize. And I was at my lowest moment.

Right. And I thought my brother was picking me up, so I did it. Yeah. I didn't really know what was going on. No, you didn't understand. You don't understand. Shalamee thinking ratings.

Yeah. That man was thinking business. You may, you know what? You should call up right now. Salive on there. Call it right now. Call it right now. I didn't have nothing to say.

You know, So I'm trying to just say words, shawlemy behind me, like, go. Go, you got this, bro? Yeah. Yeah, that's just like a friend. Like a friend. Like a friend.

But your friends mean you no good, man. You are there for your friend entertainment. You know what I'm saying? They give you advice and, you know, if it go well, okay, but I want to be entertained by the outcome. I didn't really know what was going on to be able to. I didn't know the extent to what was going on. You were lied.

I really didn't. Man with envy in his feelings and something going on. It'd be all of his things. He turned red. He turned red. He'll cry at a drop of a dime. Like, Envi is very in touch with his emotions. Oh, man. It was an iconic moment.

That's what I was saying about you. You've never given light skin. You've liked skin with dark skin tendencies. Yeah, man. You know what I'm saying? I'm, uh, I'm, I'm six-four at dark skin on the inside. You know what I'm saying? On the inside.

Yeah. But now, but, but, but cheaper in therapy is the special. Tip ain't funny.com, man. Comes at, man, December 24, but you can pre-order right now. I think I got like three pre-orders so far. Yes, I get the count. I have the back, the dashboard, so I got about three. I don't sold it by three so far.

What made you want to go that route? Because I'm sure you could have sold it to a scream or somebody if you wanted to. I ain't got time to wait on people, man. I ain't got time to wait on people. I want to do it. I want to do it. I want to do it. I don't like rules and restrictions, regulations.

You know what I mean? all that bureaucracy, policy and procedure and all that. Man, check hell, man. You know what I mean? If you want to see it, there you go. At what point did you realize comedy wasn't just a side quest for you

but something you wanted to take seriously? Yeah, we got to say we got to drop a bomb for him because at one time they didn't think he was going to go this forward comedy. They thought it was going to be like a little hobby that you did for a couple of months and then get out of it. Yeah. I got to thank the haters for that because I honestly would not have taken it so seriously.

You know what I'm saying? The people weren't telling me how much they didn't want me to do it. You know what I'm saying? I'm real hard-headed, stuck in my way like that. You know what I'm saying? It's kind of like, it put me in the mind of the King of the South moment. You know what I mean? You know, when I came out, I was saying King of the South.

And, you know, it was just something I said in the rhyme. You know what I was saying? I were really just popping it. And, you know, people out up and on, you can't, you can't, you can't. They're hell like can't, you know. And then it just became something that it grew on me. And, you know, I felt the need to defend my right to portray it. and also to justify my reason for saying it

and that's the same way I felt I felt with comedy that was another conversation that came up recently was that on Manny and Juveniles podcast with DC I think it was D.C. Chico, I don't know if Carlos was there but it was the the Mount Rushmore of the South. What about it? I don't think you can have it without you being on there. Well, I appreciate that, man. I really do, man. You see, Prisa has taught me some things.

You know what I'm saying? It just told me that it's just so many more important things than just stuff about other people's opinion. And I'm happy to just even be here, be alive, be free, let alone be successful and still relevant and still having your name mentioned amongst the Greeks. Brough, but that shit just ain't important to me. Would you ever, would you put it together? If somebody said, yo, T.I. Who's your Mount Rushmore down south rappers? Man, bruh.

I don't, nah. I mean, man, I probably would. would but like for public consumption all I'm doing to create controversy if I wanted to do it yet to create some brains I could say something I'd probably say somebody to do when nobody want to hear

so then I create more engagement and you know yeah Scarface and Ti got to be on there for me though yeah Scarface Scarface is all around you know top five to me you know what I'm saying? And Outcast yeah 3,000 as well that's where it gets difficult when you start talking about the groups

because they definitely yeah I think I think Outcare should occupy one spot. I think so, you know what I'm saying? I think Outcare should, I feel the same about GoodyMogg. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? I feel like they, and Wutang, you know what I'm saying?

And Mobb Deep. You know what I mean? I feel like the groups, the iconic groups, they should occupy one spot. You dig what I'm saying? But I just, I think that it's so many dope individuals that came at in the, in the, era that you know that we grew up in uh and so many dope individuals is coming out now so do you mix the two and it's like how you talk about it too like how you talk about it too because like Gucci jeezy people will argue like do you put both of those on are they younger but that's

what I'm saying it's like different conversations of like who goes there you don't say you don't get them without you know when you have to Mount Rushmore to me it's the person who laid the foundation for whatever it is you do when you talk about trap music. Yes. So you want to put Gucci and Gizi on a Mount Rushmore? I didn't say that. See how she did? I see what she did? You see what she did?

I was trying to. You see what she did? Yeah, yeah. That would that, uh, that would that, uh, investigator Cameron. Oh, so you say you was out there, you say you was out there at the corner, you said, round what time? You say, you say who? You say, you say, you had a bag and what, what was in the bag? Nah, for real, though, but now

I ain't say that. What I said was he said that, uh, you don't get, you don't get Gucci and Jesus would I tell. I think you could you just still got them. I don't know if it would have been as kind of consolidated

and you know what I'm saying and if it would have been received the same way. You feel what I'm saying? But you still get them and they still could they had their own story. Their story didn't come from me.

Their story came from them. I think the way the rest of the world outside of our city received their story, you know, became a little more acceptable because it had already been a door that was open you did uh a big dog dope boys in the trap man i appreciate it i appreciate see i try to

keep away from being self gratuitous you know what i'm saying i try to you know what i mean because it's big as trap music here right now you know what i'm saying i didn't do that by myself you know what it's songs that i probably wouldn't have never made you did and and it's other people to have stories and have tastes in their beat selection in their cadences you know in their uh their their collaborations with other artists that is push, trap muse, that's taking it from where I, where I brought it to and expanded it and, you know, and diversified it. And so it has evolved to a place right now where I couldn't have imagined it being. So I can't take credit for the whole thing. I just, I'm just happy that I was able to plant a seed for something that grew to be what it did today.

You laid the foundation. When it come to comedy, right, a lot of people chase it for validation. What were you chasing when you first stepped on stage? Therapy. Yeah, therapy, man. You know what I'm saying? I was going through, I was going through some, I was going through a, not just a difficult time,

but a time that I, I wasn't used to, you know what I'm saying? I would be in like, I don't have a thing said about me that I never imagined having said in public about me before. And people were like, really, like, serious about it. You know what I'm saying? And that was something I, you know, that weighed on me, you know what I'm saying? for a while, you know. And you get no apology.

Nobody ever says, you know what? I don't want them. I don't want them. I don't want them. I mean, they keep that same energy, keep on pushing. You know what I mean? It's cool. You know, that's a great way to exit my life.

I love that. You know what I mean? I need to make room for the new. And what was the most difficult part about it, right? Was the most difficult part not seeing those individuals hearing friends and family talk about it or your kids? What was the most difficult type part of it? I think the more difficult part about it was, you know, I've experienced tragedy

I guess for the more part on my own you know what I'm saying like where I had to go through it by myself and when you're going through something by yourself you know of course it's difficult the the lonely part of being by yourself

but it's also easier because you only have to worry about what you do how you feel and what you think and what you know what I'm saying so experiencing it as a family was different

for me. You feel me? Because that's the kind of thing that I always felt like you know, I bear the brunt of all that for them. You feel me? So, you know what I'm saying? That was the difficult part, but I think outside of that, bro, it was your man like, you know, I've

poured a lot of myself, my time, effort, energy, attention into present myself as a man of respect. You know what I'm saying? As a provider, protector, as a, you know what I'm saying? as someone who can be held in high regard in the community

as a certain type of person. And so for that to be like, yeah, yeah, yeah, fuck all that. Now, now, that what we say. You know what I'm saying? I'm like, oh, man, for real. Yo, that's wild. So, you know, and then I had to remind myself that, you know, it's more important things out there than other people's opinion.

You know, my truth would never step down so their fantasy can live. Absolutely. Yeah, I mean, so, but, but comedy helped me, you know what I'm saying, take it a lot less serious. Gotcha. And it kept me from trolling on the internet. How humbling was it to walk into comedy as a beginner? You probably didn't feel like that since you put out your table table stuff.

Well, to be honest with you, I'm very arrogant, shall do you know what I mean? So I never felt humble by any means, you know what I'm saying? Because every day, if they laugh, if they don't laugh, I have a good day, have a bad day, I still walk, got still get in my car go home and i wake up till you know what i'm saying so i always had in that confidence see that is something that a lot of comedians don't have you know what i'm saying and i tell them it's an even exchange you know you go out there and you know what i'm saying you have no problem being funny you know automatically how to be funny your issue is making them care about your story okay well me i go out there they automatically care

about my story, I just have to figure out how to be funny. So we both have challenges, you know what I'm saying? Don't look at me because my challenges are different from yours. Just do the best of what you do. Let me do the best of what I do. And mind your motherfucking business. You feel what I feel like? I feel like, you know what I'm saying? If we kick it like that?

Nobody had no problems. Have they ever boxed you out? What that means? Box me out. I'm explaining. You said comedians hated on you. Have they ever boxed you out where they hated on you in a way that you couldn't perform or box you out with? They didn't hate on me.

See, that's what I'm saying. They, see, very little of what other people do have anything to do with you. They didn't hate on me. They just haters. You feel what I'm saying? I was just the topic of their hate at the time. You know what I'm saying? I'm sure they hated on somebody else before and after.

You feel me? They were just some haters. And that's cool. Because if we want for them, I wouldn't be putting out my special on December 24. That's right. Pre-order right now. Yeah, go ahead. Tip 8Foney.com.

And it works, Lauren, by the way. It don't work for me, but I saw it. Well, we have comedians... What kind of computer you got, I want to know? Is this Windows? What is this? Is this a Mac? This isn't a Mac.

This is not a Mac. Didn't I type it right? But no, I'm asking you, is this... It's a thing pad. No, I have a government issue computer. I'm just asking, man. I'm just asking, because it won't work for you, but it doesn't work for everybody else. I don't know, but I saw it, though.

I was just trying to look at it to be able to talk about it. I got you. I got you. She just wanted you to come close to her, man. No, man. Come on. Don't do that. Hey, nah.

See what I'm saying? Hey, get what? Get what? They messed that up. Ain't no. Ain't, oh, no. Who sent you? Oh, you who they're saying?

Huh? Okay. I don't know. I see. Okay. I'm like, it don't work. It don't work.

It don't work. What was your question? What was your question? I was going to ask him about the boxing out by comedians. Because a lot of times when comedians come up here and they'd be saying, like, behind the scenes, other comedians will do things like, So venues not to book them or Can't nobody tell nobody that by me

Like for real, I don't think You know what I'm saying? Either you book me or you Actually the opposite happened to me Okay When I first started doing comedy I started on January 12th, 2020 And I was doing it very consistently Weekend weekend weekend and so

You know REPs is what builds Your your comedic ability you know your instincts and reflexes and whatnot and it takes time to build that right so let me see January 12th is when I started and I was really just happy to go in and just be let people you know happy to be happy to allow me to do do time on stage I wouldn't even expecting to get paid you know mean, I say by

March, by March, let's call it March to 20-something I got a call and an invitation to come to a show in Brooklyn. They said they were going to pay me $30,000 for 15 minutes. You know, now,

now mind you, I'm used to getting paid a lot more but it's for a lot longer time on stage. 30,000 for 15 is pretty commensurate with the amount of times for what I do in my day job. I'm like, oh, I'm off to a fantastic start. So I go and they booked me.

It was Rip, Rip, Rip Michaels. Yeah, right on, right on. Yeah, he set me up. He booked me to come to Brooklyn to the Barclays, to do comedy on the show where you had money bag, yo, little Kim, other rappers. So they say, yeah, here come, T.I. And I come out there, and I'm sure they were expecting music.

And here I am telling jokes. Man, they booed the shit out of me. You hear what I'm saying? You hear me? I was DJ. Yeah, you sure were. I was DJ. You're damn sure were.

I forgot about that. So then we had to say, we saved the day because, you know, we started a record. And I was like, uh-uh. T.I came up to me. I said, put it with my records. Yeah. And I play one. And he said, stop that shit, envy.

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they said, oh, okay, he think, he think, okay, book them. Go ahead, go ahead, book them. Give him the $30,000. It'll be worth it. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So that, but now, but real, real, I don't think, I don't know if he did that on perfect, but if he did, that was funny here, you know, very well played. What hurt more bombing on stage?

No, no, no, first of all. First of all, first of all, that. That's what he said. He said. He said, he got a bomb. Shaleman, you, you're a masterful at this. Man, that man, that man is a real wizard. I mean, when people boo you, isn't that bombing?

That's bombing. No. Comedians would call that bombing Well, no, no, no, no. If they start throwing shit at you and you have to leave. Like, you know what I'm saying? It's a different way.

Yeah, it starts with the boo. He caught it back on. I think you get a little different. Ain't nobody about doing nothing at you. No, but hear me out. Hit me up. Well, I've actually had things thrown at me on stage. Really?

Yeah, before. Like, we're not talking candy. No, I'm talking water bottles and stuff, man. As he was performing, rapping. Yeah, we had to jump off of stuff. You know what I mean? You know, in my early days.

in my early day. Because in a small comedy club where you can like just walk down and see the person, you don't understand how miserable in life people are. People don't care nothing about, you know. But anyway, that's not the point. The point is that was actually

my favorite show. It's my favorite show because it made me show up and on my toe I had to think. Because, you know, a show where everything goes great, you already know what you're going to say, you ever have, you know what I mean, you got your bit. So you go out there and you

know what I'm saying? You do your bit. But a show where things happen that you didn't expect to happen, it sharpens you and bring something else out of you that you didn't even know you were capable of it. But it made you realize you still had a lot to learn a bit. Now it made me realize I was better

than I was. You see what I'm saying? It made me realize I were better than I was but I put it like this. I became a better comedian after that show. That show made me better and that's why it's my favorite show. So when it comes to

comedy how do you decide which criticism? But those booze, those were premeditated booze, you see what I'm saying? See, because you know yeah. Oh, you think it was all set up. Yeah, I think that were premeditated boo. So they were trying to haze you. I think so. I think so. Something like that. Something like that. Something like welcome to comedy little nigga. You know what I'm saying?

So shit like that was the first. Is that what you're telling yourself or is that really? That's what you felt. So that was the first. So Rip does a comedy and artists performing. That's his thing. He does comedy with artists performing. Tip was on it, so people assumed Tip was going to be rapping, right? So the first song, what you know

about that comes on is Tip walks out. Crowd goes crazy. Tip says, all right, stops. He's not performing. He started to do comedy. So they're mad now, but they're hype. They're hype.

And now he's like, hey, you know what? Committee do late. They're like, what? And then he starts telling jokes. So now it's like the, ooh, the Tip caught it early. Walk back, play this I played a record

They start getting hype again Because now they're thinking about performing And then he said You nasty ignorant motherfuckers I thought I was really going to perform You idiot whatever bastard They start laughing He closed out his five minutes

Walks out He caught the crowd back So it wasn't a bomb It wasn't a burden Okay Okay But that's what happened But I respect

On the internet They just showed a boo They don't show the boo It's okay No but it's okay And then another thing that I learned Um Because like you know

One thing about New York City Like, you know what I'm saying? People catch your own fast. So when the one couple people start booing, it just started crescendoing around from the back up to the front. And, you know, it was to the point I looked there. I see Tamika, she down there in there booing too. I said, hey, man, what the hell in wrong with you, bro?

You came to me. Your wife? Yeah, she got to have gone, man. I'm no good damn with him. She's like, I'm just joining me. I'm not going to do this. I got caught in the moment. Nah, but I thought

And then another thing So people said that They said that They said that you know Usually when people get booed A lot of people They stop doing comedy because of that They can't take that

You know what I mean? A lot of people And then They said that I knew you were serious Because the very next day I got back on stage And got a standard ovation Wow

The very next day 8th uh we was we was in Atlanta we was in Atlanta uh I think it was a show with DC young fly I think Mike else or something but anyway I got I got back on state uh did did another five minute the same five minute the same jokes I got booed for up here

I got a standing ovation for you know what I'm saying on that show so I understood that you know what I'm saying that was just a it was a learning curve for me and I accepted it so how do you decide which criticism is useful and which is just noise what means something what matters to me okay you know what I'm saying It's like, if I, if I don't mind, it don't matter. I wanted to ask, so next year is the 20th anniversary of ATL.

And the 20th anniversary of King. Did you ever expect ATL to be as big for our coach as it is? I will honestly say I had no expectations. Really? I had no expectation. I went into it with an open mind. I was it was a skill set that I wanted to develop and and it was something that I always wanted to do and the opportunity when it presented itself to me it just made me feel like I was on my way

you know what I'm saying so that's all I was thinking about I'm on my way there you know what I mean but the fact that it has the following that it has and people are so committed to the characters you know what I'm saying like people are very they like people are glued to their televisions man and that's what I've learned like okay so I've had different kinds of fame you know what I'm saying like I've had like the underground

hip-hop fame I had the mainstream superstar fame I've had the all day on CNN fame You know what I'm saying Reality show Yeah I've had But see that that TV fame Like when the movie fame

Like okay he had a movie with Disney I had all that kind of fame But that TV show fame When they're sitting in their house Watching you On a consistent basis Every Tuesday, Thursday Whenever your show come on

At this time Why they eating and they're looking And they do that Week after week after week at the week At the month after month after year at the year after year. That's a different kind of fame. Right.

Wow. That is different. Big than having the number one album? Yes. Wow. Yes. Yes. Yes.

I promise you to God. You catch one of them housewives walking through the airport and the person with the number one hour and walking through the airport. People are going to flock to the housewife. They're going to flock to the love and hip-hop. They're going to flock to the baddies or whatever. Whatever they're watching consistently is tattooed on their mind. You feel me?

That song, you're going to listen to it in the car and you get out. You're going to listen to why you're cleaning up, then you lead out. You know what I mean? That TV fame, bro, is different. You know what I mean? And that showed me just how much people are committed because if I, if it was one more,

these are characters. This is make-believe people. People walk up to me, why you get that girl, her chain back. Man, listen, bro. Man, listen, bro. Come on, man. They've been talking about a sequel for the longest.

Yeah, you know, amen. I mean, at one, I ain't even going to say nothing now. I ain't even going to say nothing now. You know what I mean? You just sit back and see what I happened. Because it was supposed to be happening at one point, right? Yeah, you didn't just hit me when I said I'm going to say no no. I think you were said that.

You went to the Shalabang School. You don't know, man. I've been interrogated about it. They're going to get me light out with you. I wasn't to know, though. Even when you did that movie back then, did you say, well, maybe I shouldn't do the movie, right? Because at the time, you was trap or you was hardcore, I would punch you in your face and five?

that didn't never that never that that I guess because that softened you up a little bit no it didn't no it did not that's it did he went to jail so much after that that no no I mean that's not true either that's not true either that was oh six

it wasn't it came out at oh six the movie were filmed 0405 oh okay okay I was just getting out of jail actually at the time because that was the year King came out. King did come out the same week, yeah.

How did it help? Because you were just getting out of the time. So how did it help as you were trying to, like, how did it what help? You said the movie came out in 2006, right? The movie did come out of the 2006, but I'm talking about I was just getting out of jail in 2004 when, no, 2005. In the 2004, 2005, when the when the movie was being filmed,

I was just getting out of jail. Got you, okay. So, and it didn't really help me at all because I was already on fat. So when I got out of jail And draw urban legend That was It was already up there You know what I mean

That's like bring them out You don't know me You know what I'm saying So it wasn't really I need no help You know what I mean But it did It did challenge me as an artist

It challenged me I never considered Not doing the movie Because of the character Or any of that Being soft and those types of things Don't crawl my mind But I will say

there was a time where I was like, man, I'm too rich for this. I got too much money for this. I had Jay got like a $10 million check from Leor and Jay had got like a $7 million check from like one of the chapel and I hadn't

even cashed the checks. I ain't had no time to spend no money to do nothing. I had a road rush. So I pulled up first day's shoe. I pulled up 45 minutes, no, maybe an hour and a half late. blow a smoke out the sunroof of my brand new phantom

that I was driving, by the way. I wasn't being chauffeur. You remember when you talked about phantoms up here and nobody knew what it was? Uh-uh. I remember that. You said, I forgot you said something about a phantom. It were two phantoms in the city.

Big boys and mine. He had a burglary than one. I had a black one. And you were making $85,000 filming that movie, right? Yeah, I made about $85,000. So you're pulling up all this. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And they're trying to tell me what to do,

when to show up and when they're like, are you serious? And so I did consider them in, let me get them folks that $85,000 dollar back so I can live my life

but Chris Robinson set me down and he was like because they were fin to find me and he was like yeah they were like man let's get this kid out of here but he was like

hey man listen I know you don't really need this as much but I'm a first time director as a black director uh Lauren's the first time actor as a black actress

uh you have Evan Ross he's the first type like all these people and all this opportunity is kind of hinging upon your commitment to this so if you go down

we go down I'm like but damn we'll put it like that man you know what I mean so you know what I'm saying Chris Roberts of Charlie Mac Brian Sherer like they all

kind of you know had an intervention moment and you know what I'm saying I'm like alright man so you know that that is the time I consider not doing the movie but I'm happy I did.

I do want to say in the story history of T.I. Street lore. Oh, man. After 2006. Yeah, Tim, you were still out there. Like, because the culmination was buying guns in 07. You see how your friend bring back up old stuff?

No, I'm just saying. No, it's okay because, you know, therapy has you know, allowed me. And it's not that happened. But see, it's reflection. It's reflection. It's reflection. I mean, man, I think that

in life man when we when we find in our way you know we got to do it we got to do wrong to know to know how to do right absolutely you feel me and but when you're doing wrong you just you just accept the lessons to come with it you accept the lesson to come with it and then you understand what path you don't want to go down that's why that's why you need a movie because people really don't know your story like I kind of like it that way though in a hurdle you've been through I kind of like it that way but I'm working on a book too though I'm working on a book as well okay Yeah, but I like it that way that they don't know all everything. See, when people learn everything it is to know about you,

ain't nothing else to come back for. No, no. But you got a different type of story, man. I feel you, man. The reason that different is because it's ever, it's evergreen, it's ever changing. It's still morphing into whatever it will be one day. So I think that's the reason to different. I was arguing, what was we arguing about with TI?

Because, you know, I always say TI need a verses. King of the South. Just so people can be reminded. It was T.N. was T.I. Because I don't, I think there's a generation that either forgets or doesn't realize how big T.I. the rapper was. Marco Plus. Like, there's rappers that, it was Marco.

Yeah, he said Jay Cole was the king of the South. And, you know, Charlemagne goes off about Tia. Yeah, I wish. I wish, thank you. Thank you. But I wish I care. I'd be trying to make myself care, and I can't, man. I just know it's so many more important. important thing, bro. I don't care, man. What I did is done. You feel me? It's done. But then do the movie on that part. I said, well, then just do the movie on that part. Oh, I'm not, I'm not objected to the movie or anything. I'm just saying I don't really

apply no energy into trying to remind people anything about me. No, you have to. We have to. You know what we got to be told. Because in the beginning of their argument, it was like, he was standing on his business about J. Cole in the conversation by the end, he was like, well, you know what? I am from Atlanta and I this and I did. And I did. And I that how you Atlanta and a rapper and don't know how big T.I. was. Like TIP. But also his age as well too. At the same time

man, bro. But he said you was his favorite rapper, which didn't make no sense to me. He was like, but now that's one of my favorite rapper. Okay, so, but people probably, they consume, J. Cole probably is what he has been consuming the most as of recent. So you know what I'm saying? That's what you are consuming

presently is what's going to have the most impact on your decisions on your opinions so that's probably what that is it ain't you know and both it ain't got to be wrong you know if that's if that's who the king of the south end up here to him then enjoy that kingdom

yeah but even levels of celebrity right number one movie and number one album at the same goddamn time I mean bro come on man that's different God has been good to me you feel what I'm saying God has been good to me man and I want to go back to the reality show you talk about

how famous I'm sorry I'm sorry let me say one more thing. I'm still cold as a motherfucker on the mic and I still and to be honest with you I'm just because I don't want to I don't want to negate any of these facts can't nobody fuck with me I'm just let you know that now

you understand going to booth with anybody walk out with the better verse I go to I go head to head with dro so I go as anybody I don't give it that who you got bring them on they can't fuck with me live performance

can't fuck with me hit for hit something you just can't fuck with me You know what I mean? There might be somebody that certain people like better. That's your opinion. Okay. But bottom line, it can't fuck with me. And anybody think I'm like, anybody who think, you know what I'm saying, that what I'm saying, there's some bullshit.

Line me up with whoever you got. Anybody. I don't give a damn who it is. 20 for 20. I don't give a, help the bear. You hear me? I don't give a damn who it is, man. I don't give a damn who is.

He came to so humble. He was like, yeah, I'm this. I don't care. I don't care what you. Y'all bringing this shit out there. Let me just say what thing. You're bringing this shit out. Y'all niggas can't tie my shoes.

I'm just going to say that. Yeah, I'm saying, man, like I'm humble, you know, and God bless everybody, but you can't fuck with me. Because there's not a bag you can't go in. Streets, ladies, clubs, introspective records, features. Come on. I appreciate that. Thank you.

And humility is the key. I've learned that, you know, being homeless is going to take you well. It's going to take you well. father than being arrogant, but let the facts be known that you can't nobody fuck with me. I want to go back to you. You talk about the reality show and how big that was.

Do you ever regret having your family on it? Because people judge them differently without seeing them because they see you first, whether it's your sons that's doing music, your daughters that's doing music. Like, do you ever regret that part of it? I don't have, I don't have no regrets. You know what I'm saying? I don't have

no regrets. I think that I have the most elaborate, photo album as a father that anyone could have you know what I'm saying I could go back instead of putting out of photo album I can look at season three of Family Hustle and see King

you know with his braces you know what I'm saying see major you know like like as a little bitty man a little bitty mini man you know all and see neat neat before she knew how to before she was driving

like I could I could go back and relive some very, very, like, just some special moments in my family's life. So even by that alone, it's substantial and it's worthwhile to me. Yeah. Man, when all your titles fade to rapper, mogul, comedian, what you want your name to represent? My family and my children, my grandchildren. Like, all the rest of this, man, this is business. You feel I'm saying?

you get wrapped up in no business you know what I mean this is business whatever we're doing is good is only as good as long as the money lasts you feel me if they stop paying you right now

would you care about coming in here no exactly you feel what I'm saying exactly I'm just saying come on bro I got plenty microphones I mean that's how I feel

I don't care about none of this shit for real don't I don't really care man I don't care nothing about it I feel like it's something that I love it because it's been so good to me. But present day, this is not the focus of my life because I can direct my time, effort, energy, and attention in other areas and make as much or more money. And what's more important to me is like, you know, family and children, grandchildren now. and, you know, building

platforms and stuff for them so they can go on and be great and follow their dreams and do what they love. Like, for me, I didn't did, man. I didn't do, man. You know, I don't need to be more famous. I'm right. How's it feel to be a grandfather?

You said that twice. How's that feel? I love it. I love it. Send the kids back home when you're done? I mean, man, they can stay. I don't care. They don't bother me.

They can stay. I like, you know, the bad ones. You know what I'm saying? one don't nobody or won't like because that remind me of me you know what I like the bad one like everybody I don't want to deal with them man come on bring them to me yeah I mean I wear their little ass out you know you ain't bad to me I know you can't be bad to me come on let's have

at it you know but but you know there's a there's a bond that it created when you find because when when kid be bad they know don't nobody want to be bothered with them they can feel it they know because I knew it it. They know I was the kid. They were like, no, I ain't taking him. But I were bad, so I understood.

But the people who did take the time at and like kind of showed me, because the kid, they're nothing wrong with the kid. The problem is the adults expecting the kid to know the right thing to do before they're being taught. They do the kids. They don't know. I mean, they're trying. They're trying it. And they pulled a try.

But when a child sees somebody that is willing to invest the kind of time, and instruction in there it creates a bond and you know what I'm saying that's that's what I appreciate and nobody acknowledges how King seemed to turn the corner like King oh my God when he was wild and everybody had so much to say but now that he seemed to be on the straight and narrow nobody got nothing about him he is first of all he's funny as hell yeah yeah man King is funny it's a lot to King people don't know about him you know what saying and and he man he's extremely talented he has a huge heart and he cares A lot. That's the thing I have, man. He cares so much. How do you care so much about stuff? I don't care. You know what I mean? And he, as a father, he's a great dad. You know what I'm saying? He made me feel like I didn't spend enough time with my kids. You know what I'm saying? But I think that he's young, bro. If I think about where I was, when I was his age, when he was running around and, you know,

enjoying his youth you can spend your youth however you want to and that's how he chose to spend his and that's his prerogative you know what I'm saying but you shouldn't like critique too much too soon and because everybody got everything now all over you know the internet for all to observe and give opinions on man let the man grow up you know I mean and you know he's growing up and he's gonna be right he's straight would you ever do because now that you control your own content like what you're doing with your special would you ever put together something family-wise with your family again that you control and you're gonna put it because y'all clips that your post is like it's such a even a moment with your daughter in

the grinch yeah it caption it's it's like it makes us feel like the reality show that you guys had but we only get it in clips now that's well you know what good no man if i did do it that's the only way it to get done something that we control something that we you know what I'm saying that belongs to us but that's not outside the realm of possibilities Demani

you know he he is the I guess the curator of those clips Demanded like I guess Schlicht directs those clips because he has a vision he sees things he kind of I guess studies the algorithm

you know I mean I don't know what the hell that mean I feel like that holiday hair's That's all the money. The money is to say, hey, man, we need to do, we need to do something. Come to the house at 3 o'clock on Monday. Everybody.

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Even the stuff with him and King, that's like, man, the money said, man, if King just listen to me, I say, bro, you hear big brother, man. Like, just go talk to him, go tell him. No, man, you need to tell them. No, I'm a daddy. Why, I need to tell him? I like, because King and Demandah have a very, a strange, I ain't going to say strange, but it's a different dynamic because when they were young, right, when they were youthful, like, let's say when King was six, the money was 10, like they were the one that got the more weapons in the house. They were the bad ones. Yeah, I mean, they were the ones who they go outside even though he said, don't go outside.

You know what I'm saying? Let's go do this even though we know we ain't posed to. it was them two together right then all of a sudden the money grew up and jac kinda got like grow like man I ain't got time for that and now king like

bro what's up you know what I'm saying and king was still on that and so they have a different and I told that to the man I say bro y'all you to get weapons together bro y'all like co-defendants in a way and now you just done

that get turned your life around gave it to God and then forgot about your partner for real and he said bro, I never thought about it like that And so he went to his brother And they talked, I don't know what they talked about I don't know how, you know, how it turned out But they threw hands

Not this time, but early on They threw hands You can't, you stopped it or you just let him go? No, I wouldn't know. They both were calling me, you know what I'm saying? Hey, because King was up They were when King was like At the peak of his own one, right?

And Demand was like, man he is not tougher he think he? I'm gonna show him he ain't tough as he think he or I'm going to show him ain't nobody going to do that about it I'm going to do something about it and I'm not used to

hearing Demani talk about it so I'm like to see what it's going and so and you know Demi showed to the studio and King

and King she stood on Benny you know what I'm saying and they they threw hands and they and but afterwards they had a mutual respect

for one of those man to be honest with you and the little brother fighting the big brother there is no winner or loser for real you know what I'm saying um I think that the winner was that they both learned something about each other that caused them to deal with each other different but this particular moment I was like man Jack Kyle your brother

talked to him so he called talked to him and King started listening to the money and they started doing content together and you know and here we are we love it I've got a couple more questions it's the holiday season right and everybody know you got that bag so I I know, no, no, no, no, no, no, that's what we need to pause. You know what I'm saying? We need to pause it like that, you know what I'm saying? But you've been getting it for a long time so people reach out to you, right? So I know you got to be selective.

There's a story I always hear about you that I think is an amazing story, but I just wonder what made you do it when Michael Vick reached out to you. And he reached out to you and they said he just, he just, you just, oh, no, you called him just to check in. No, he was just getting out that day. Oh, you're saying it was the first day he got out. Yeah, yeah, so I was hitting, I hit him, you know what I was up with him. And the part of this story that's more interesting, what they don't realize here, that was the day I would turning myself in.

Wow. Yeah, I would turn to myself in that day. And so, yeah, you know, he were coming out, I was going in. So, you know, I were hitting him just to see what was up, how he were doing. And this is funny. It's a comedian in the Ha-ha Mafia that he had his name, Fat Man D's it. Funny here. But he got a joke.

Like, you know what I'm saying? Just say hello. Don't ask people how they doing. Because somebody's going to tell you how they doing. That's right. So I learned that that day. So, you know what I'm saying? So I called.

I said, man, what's up, man? How are you doing? How are you doing? He said, man, matter of fact, man, I'm Jay getting that, man. I'm, you know, I'm down bad. you know what I'm saying I could use some you know well he ain't asked for that he was just saying how his situation was you know financially stressful and um so I was like and I just happy to have been even though I was turning myself in I was I was at a point with coming off a paper trail and you know

I was having it and I was like man you know what bro send me your instructions and I you know you're wiring instructions 75 grand he told you out of it I don't know. I saw it online. Numbers are not important. You know what I'm saying? The gestures were important. Golly. Nah, man, but yeah, yeah, yeah.

I think that was, it was something like that. I thought it was 50, but if it was 75, so weird. What made you do it? I just come, man. A lot of time when I'm going through stuff, I take my mind off of what I'm going through by trying to help somebody else. You know what I'm saying?

So, yeah, but, but Vic, man, Vic was, we were tight like you know what I'm saying we we were running in the city and I tell you know what I mean there was I was I was cool

with the the high quarterback in the NFL like we were partners you know I mean he come to my house I go to his house like we were really home boy

we'd go out together hang out you know do stuff he wasn't supposed to be doing while he were playing ball together you know what I'm saying so so

when he went through that I just felt bad to see him going through it and then I started going through it. So, you know what I'm saying? When I spoke to him, I just were happy he was coming home

and I just wanted to help. Well, Tia, I got six kids, man. One in college. You do? Very expensive, man. It is. Ask me how I'm doing. How you doing?

I'm not doing that great, man. You're not? You're not. You're going to help a brother out? Help you out with what? Some advice. I got great advice. And see, that way, I feel like,

and you know what? We should stop. We should stop talking about how much money people got. It should be illegal to say how much money somebody has online and, like, publicly stated. You know what I mean? Oh, my said you just got a check from OMD. Oh, what, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, see, that's what I'm saying. That's what it should be, it should be, it should be done differently.

You know what I'm saying? You can say that something was won. You could say that, you know, it is said that, what, you know, you. They should start publicizing that right now. What they should start publicizing is bills. They should start publicizing the bills. But you know, it's good. Don't nobody tell nothing about because every time you look at somebody who got more money than you.

You just remember, they got more bills than you as well. That is true. But even when you do great things like Entrata, what's it, Intrata, West Side, 143 unit complex, providing housing for low-income families and homeless youth, that's a big deal. Yeah. So you got to have a check to even make that. happen that's right i mean you know it's a blessing to be able you know what i mean and i'm a vessel you know i mean uh everything that you see happening for me uh is happening through me you know what

i'm a i'm an instrument that god is using uh for his purpose and i'm happy to be here to do so it's not just because of me because i'm so talented because i'm so good looking because i'm so cool is that enough it's god is god is the reason because because I tried to fuck this shit up a long time ago. I promise you. I did. Like, you know what I mean? If it was just on me and my talent, I would have been out of here a long time ago.

It's truly God's work. And I'm just happy to be here to be able to do God work. And Trada is just one of the things that, you know, even before in Trotter, we, you know, new finishes when we built over 100 houses in the community. Before it was gentrification, before they were talking about that, we would be. building houses. You know, I built a crack house. I bought a crack house I sold cracking in, bought it, renovated it, kicked the junkies out, and put a family in it. You know what I'm saying? And I did. And, well, you know, six months later, it would back a crack house. But that's not the hell or not that. You know, that's when I learned that to make a significant impact,

you got to kind of, you know, I guess value. You need more value. Doing it one at a time. I wouldn't getting the the ground covered that I wanted to so in Trada 100, is it 43, 143? 147

1443, 143 Okay but then it's a certain percent 100 percent affordable housing and in Atlanta you know what I'm saying it's hard to find affordable housing

in the city so you know what I'm saying that was 25 a reserve for at risk 25 reserve for homeless youth I don't want to say at rich let's say at Promise. It's an At Promise Center

on the west side. You know, it's like a kind of like an updated boys and girl club. You know what I'm saying? We put a studio in there for the kids who want to record. They teach skills and trades and stuff like that, helping with homework. So

it's dope. But yeah, so those are reserved for At Prima homeless youth and I'm proud of that. Now, one thing I will say since I'm here on the radio, we got 12,000 square feet of retail and it's a food desert over there. I'm trying to get a supermarket. I need a grocery store pharmacy to come and

partner with us and service the community because there is no fresh produce, fresh fruit. You know what I mean? Even if it's a farmer market, we need food over there because ain't no where to eat, you know, except for, you know, chicken wing and french fries and hamburgers and stuff. So, and then for the elderly, for the old people, they got to get too far out the community to to fill their prescription. So we need pharmacy and a supermarket. So anybody out there listening who want a partner, there ain't going to be money in it now.

You know what I'm saying? So understand that. This ain't a money play. But it will be some phenomenal PR. You know what I mean? People just like they commend to me, they will be commending you. You know what I mean?

So let's put, you know, let's put passion over profit right here. And, you know, let's collaborate anybody. But this is so interesting because this is the type of stuff you've been doing for so long. Like you, you know, you mentioned New Finish, right? And I remember seeing you on, I think it might have been Diary on MTV back in one of them shows, and you showed how you was building these homes.

And then, of course, you said it in, um, new finishing loan will make me dumb rich. Maybe it was motivation. I thought so. I was wrong. I thought it would make me dumb rich. But see the housing, the market crashed. Oh. You see what I'm saying?

Before I could really cash out on it, the market crashed. That's what, 2008, right? Man, now I would go, I'm finding the case right then. And so I needed that little money. But nobody talks about that type of stuff when it comes to the rappers. They always want to talk about the gangster shit and the street shit. No, they talk about drugs all day. Like, no, you ain't listening to the music.

Well, you know. I'm paying attention. I think, you know what I'm saying, man? We do spend a lot of time talking about the things that we spend a lot of time doing. You know what I mean? But there are other things that are just important to get mentioned that are overlooked. Now, speaking departments. Don't you got departments on tub?

Yeah, departments is on tubing now. Everybody, man, go see. Go see departments on tubic. You know what I mean? We're proud to be on the, with the rest of our independent writers, directors, and creatives. That's right. You know what I mean? So, yeah, go see the apartment, man.

The funny thing you're going to watch today. And I see you started back expeditiously. Are you going to be consistent with it this time? I was consistent with it last time. But then you quit. I just took a break. No money. Y'all start paying people right after I can read.

You know what I'm saying? The day you lay off and the day it pay off. You know what I'm saying? Right after I said, man, man, fuck this shit. That when they signed 20 million here, third million now. I said, man, oh, so you didn't like me. That's what it was. It was me.

Yeah, man, expeditiously every Tuesday, man. Also, independent, you know what I'm saying? You just go to wherever you listen to your podcast, and I'd be somewhere at the bottom of the list. You know what I mean? No, I was in a meeting yesterday, and some white folks bought up expeditiously. Do you know that was one of the biggest podcast in the world at one point?

Yeah, I was talking to somebody this morning who was, like, yeah, when expeditially comes back, and I said it's back. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Every two, man, proud of the, the conversations we've been having. Just did Ambassador Young, a two-part on Ambassador Young. And, you know, he, man, he shed so much gain on, like, the civil right movement and just talk about, you know, our leaders in a way that ain't nobody really, really spoke about them before, like, candidly.

You know what I mean? from a personal perspective we just wrapped an episode with Mayor Mayor Andre Dickens You know what I'm saying Again

It's candidly Like I don't think When people come to my show Like we just sitting here A conversation We just talked Opened up with AI Got Shaq in the can

On the way He did a dope interview With Dallas Austin You know what I'm saying Some game Oh DJ Tunt you're back back in your

PSC is on there PSE Yeah yeah That was a dope Yeah yeah man Did it did an episode With the click So yeah man

You know what I'm doing it I'm doing it And so we go see what happened We're gonna see what happened Now you love And tell the white folk man Get them white folk my number I just put us on email

Say land man I don't even check email I said getting my number I text my number Okay okay Don't worry about So now you know you love mixtape DJs

You love DJs I do I do. You got a record that's coming out soon. Can we have it? Can I have it? That's a tough tune. Can I have it?

You and Farrell, the record is produced by the-R-R-R-R-R-R-I-N-N-W-W-to-Rell. I don't know if you want to say that. He ain't say not about the record yet, Big Mouth. Well, I was going to say, you and Farrell have him. I think it's some of the most underrated chemistry and hip-hop history between producer and rapper. Hell, yeah. Man, I'm proud.

You know, for real, the first, like, you know, top chart-tapping producer that decided to work with me. Oh, I'm serious. Panoppa number one. And, you know, and since then, we've had so many records. Like, she's a freak, though. You know what I mean? Like, it's just so many records that we've had.

But, get what, we ain't never, yeah, that would they record, though. Yeah, that would they record, though. Yeah, that was their record. Got that with me. Got that with me. Hey, man, no, but that was, I was happy to be there. I was happy to be there. We had a good time.

But we've never had a single, though. Out of all the record, we didn't did, we never had a single. And you know what I'm saying? That was your first single off I'm serious. Yeah, you know what I'm saying. I'm talking about like a hit. A hit.

Okay, okay, got you, got you got you. I'm talking about a hit. We had bops. We got plenty bops. I'm talking about, like, you know what I'm saying? With all of the success that I had, you know, for for real to not be, you know what I mean, in that conversation, in them hits, you know what I'm saying?

I think we need to fix that. He also gave you one of the most powerful cosines that I think put you in another Scratusphere. I forgot which gangster grizzer was, but he said that you were like the Jay-Z of the South. He was on that, he was on, it was an interlude and he was talking about you. And he said he was like the Jay-Z of the South.

And I think just like when you called yourself the King of the South, that made people listen to you with a different air. I appreciate that, man. And I mean, for real, I always been my brother. But it's certain people in this game that when I go in the studio with, You already know something coming out, dangerous.

Ferrell is one, Tump is the other. Swiss beats is another. Jazzy Faye is another. You know what I'm saying? It's just certain people. Manifresh is another. Top back, big shit, pop. You know what I mean?

It's just certain people when I walk in with them, bro. You just know it's going to be stupid. So let's introduce the record right now. Hold on. One last thing that you just bought up just playing. Well, I mean, we can introduce it in conversation. It's called let them know. When is it coming?

I can't wait. I can't wait to play it for you, man, for everybody else. It's coming on. It comes in January 23rd, bro. We're going to put it out. But, you know what I'm saying? I will be given, you know what I'm saying, previews through DJs.

You know, I just want to make sure that when the DJ have it, it's on the DSP, so once they hear it from the DJ, they can go somewhere. Yeah, so I actually get, because I need all the little numbers and counts that I can get, you know what I'm saying? You do have a very dope record.

I'm talking to you with Just Believe. Yeah. Is that a disc record? It's not a dish record. No, it was just, it was just, it was, it was, it was, it was a, it was an attention record. I was shock, jacking. Okay, okay, I'm saying, I just wanted the conversation to start. Okay, okay, okay, okay.

Yeah, it wasn't no disc record. I would really just, you know, uh, like when I say stuff, like, it's only five rappers out Atlanta who busing and then I'm one of them. The other four, you know who you are, but if you got to thank twice, like, it was just like, you know, it was a mind for. When you said, I ain't talking about jigger, that's my nigger, the real person you called. I said whoever I wasn't. Well, that wasn't no diss. I mean, I just said that that's President Carter.

Like, he was the president. No, no, no, everybody thought it was a Louis Wayne this. No, no, no, no, no, no, President Carter, because he was the president of death. And you said the real President Carter. But President, because it's a, it's a President Carter that was once the President of the United States. Got you, got you. You feel me? You got you, got you.

He was the president of Def Jam at the time. Okay. You got to think, man, you got the Thelma. Layers, man, layers, man. But you didn't mention right. That's a quadruple entendre. That's just an old hip-hop lord that I was thinking about. No, man, Wayne Ben.

I'm a hot boys fan. First of all, I used to cut crack and listen to it. I ain't bullshit, man. I'm dead serious. I used to cut cookies of crack into dimes and dubs listening to the hot boys, BG, big timers, and little Wayne. So I ain't, man, I got a lot of love and respect for all those niggie cook. I was on my bicycle selling dope to your music

you feel me so that's a different level of respect I ain't you know I mean even though I know you know I'm saying we're in a competitive state I can't negate the fact that I used to listen to your shit before I became who I am you know I mean that's why you want to talk about the Wayne Ti versus no I ain't nobody can't fuck with me did you hear what I said but I mean I say that and respectfully as I can it ain't that I'm avoiding it just like

if you start trying to compare yourself with splitting hairs with who's better with this and the debt I'm gonna just cover it all can't nobody fuck with me but I'm on a positive you know what I'm on my positive shit so that would be phenomenal

I would love to do a version of Wayne I would love to do a version of Wayne I think they say him in home fin to do it I don't think that's real I heard Dave I think Timberlin Timberlin or I wouldn't want to see that I'd rather see Jay Z and Nause

Jay Z and Nause would be dope yeah yeah I'd be fine Yeah, I love to do a version with Wayne. Wayne, you know, he dope, he dope, he dope, he dope, he dope. The dopest, you know what I mean? The dopeest beside me. Yep, but I bet y'all put it all on tip that day. Drive King's fan duel.

Hey, man, I'm putting it on tip. Oh, I got a Wayne record too, man, me, me and Tune, we got a record together as well. Okay. And Tune did a record with Buddy Red. Your son? Yeah, Tune hit me. Tune hit me. I'm like, hey.

hey man let me get I need to get with your son I'm thinking he was talking about the money I was like who you say man your son man you know the one the one with the guitar I said oh shit

so yeah he did a record with Buddy Red man and that's love you feel me you know to hit me in one thing you hit me and we collaborate together but you hit me and you talking about

collaborating with my child excuse me I shouldn't say that he ain't go like that With my son, man, my, you know what I mean? My first born son and, you know, and he ain't even at a point in his career right now where he got the numbers that would justify. Right.

And Wayne J. did it just out of sheer love. You know what I mean? So that's hard. That's hard. Yeah. I appreciate that. That's dope. Well, ladies and gentlemen,

it's TIP. Don't forget, Cheaper Than Therapy comes out on the 24th comedy special. We appreciate you, brother. Hey, department's on Tooby. P.S.C. Still in the street. DJ drama, Gangster Grill. New Year's Eve.

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