The Breakfast Club - INTERVIEW: T.I. & Young Dro Speak On Sobriety, 'OMG Girlz' Lawsuit Victory, New Music + More

Episode Date: October 14, 2024

The Breakfast Club Sits Down With T.I. & Young Dro To Discuss Sobriety, 'OMG Girlz' Lawsuit Victory, And New Music. Listen For More! See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Wake that ass up in the morning. The Breakfast Club. Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy, Jess Hilarious, Charlamagne Tha God. We are The Breakfast Club. Jess is on maternity leave, so Lauren LaRose is filling in. And we got some special guests joining us this morning. Yes, indeed. We have T.I. and the brother Young Joe. Welcome, fellas. Hey. What's up, what's up?

How y'all feeling this morning, man? Good. I'm blessed. We know you're blessed. We know. We know. First and foremost, congratulations. We know you blessed. We know. We know. We know you blessed. First and foremost, congratulations.

Man, thank you. How does it feel? I heard that you're not really taking any shows anymore. That got to be the first thing. I'm saying congratulations. Thank you. I appreciate it. That's our show.

That's actually our show. That's our show. Yeah, yeah. Our later show. You were the Jingle Balls. You were the show called Jingle Balls. Yeah, that's my show. I named show. You were the Jingle Balls. You were the show called Jingle Balls. Yeah, that's my show. I named it.

No, no, no. That's our hard show. That's our hard show that we're doing in Atlanta. But yeah, I'm excited about it, man. You know, it's going to be a dope show. And, you know, I still have other performances, stuff that I agreed to when I felt like I needed to do it. With PSE or just?

Yeah, and I still, you know what I'm saying, the PSE, you know what I'm saying, they probably, they gonna get like probably three, four, you know what I'm saying, three, four of them like, all right, come on y'all, let's do it, you know? Like one air quarter. I'm just joking, man, I'm just joking. But I'm for real.

Troll is not joking about that. He's not just joking about that nigga. But I'm for real. I'm for real. I'm sitting over here looking at him like, you doing this to me? Are you doing this to me? Don't worry about it, man.

Plenty of room on the yacht, man. Plenty of room on the yacht. You know, Andrew, I was always told retirement is not an age, it's an income. And we heard you say that this solo album is going to be your last album. Yeah. Like Envy just said, you said it's going to be your last show.

Yeah, last paid show. But listen, that don't mean that I'm not gonna still work. You know what I'm saying? There are other things that I'm doing. I'm still writing, producing, directing films. And I'm working on my third one. We're about to start. Actually, by the time this airs, I'll probably be filming.

It's called Situationships, a romantic comedy based in the Atlanta law line. It's looking for love in Atlanta, good luck. And I'm excited about that. It's the first film that I'll be directing and starring in. Myself, Terrence J., Brittany Hall, Dominique Perry. You know what I'm saying? So, you know, we got other things that we're doing.

I'm probably going to shoot my special end of the year. But you know, for that movie, we have somebody that might want to be a part of it. Trying to find some love in the world. Who is that? Well, it's not me because I'm married 23 years. That'd be a reality show. That wouldn't be a movie. I'm just wondering, who you talking about?

This young lady over here. Why we always got into this? We call her LL Cool Bay. She always alone in her room standing at the wall. That was your best joke. You've been sitting on that one. I ain't heard that one. You practiced that one.

He was waiting because I ain't even heard that one. I don't think I'm looking in Atlanta though. Wow. Discrimination much? No. You sound like what Trump just said about Detroit. Jesus Christ.

I have some homegirls down there that have had really bad experiences. It's a little. Really bad experiences? Yeah, it's been a little trauma in the group chat, so I think I'm. Huh? Probably them. Probably them. You do attract with the energy you distribute.

I tell her that all the time. First of all, I'm not talking about me. I'm talking about the homegirls in the group chat. But you're talking about how their experiences are influencing your decisions. For sure. So you're talking about you, essentially. Well, I attract great things. You do.

Ish. Ish. Why would that change if you took that same energy to Atlanta? Well, from what I hear in Atlanta, I think the ratio makes it where like— Objection. Hearsay. I just hear a lot about that ratio and how kind of, you know, the guys got a lot going on. You got—it's a lot down there.

And, you know, everybody wants to deal with successful and, you know, these amazing black men. But if they dating 50 people and don't want to settle with one, the dating never gets nowhere. As long as you got the whipper pill. Oh, my goodness. I don't think we can say that. We can't say that. Baby face. That's baby face. Yeah.

T2 Young. Baby face raised. Baby face raised. Babyface Ray. Babyface Ray. Babyface Ray. Wait a minute, Spotify. Where's Whippa P about Babyface Ray? That was not that funny.

Yeah, but I think that, I think that, I think it's somebody down there, because there's probably a dude down there right now who's like, man, all these girls want the same thing. You know, everybody want to be seen with somebody in Cartier glasses and hopping out of Maybach. there dude right now who like man all these girls want the same thing and you know everybody want to be seen with somebody in Cartier glasses and hopping out of Maybach what's wrong with Cartier I'm just saying I'm just saying but you know but that's the kind of guy she's saying she's trying to avoid she's trying to avoid me a little bit I think it's just certain I think the the lifestyle in Atlanta although it's really really fun you have a good time i think that kind of plays a part of it too it's like eventually

we get like and i i'm outside i go outside i'm around but you get tired of like every single time we go out we got to be in the club we got to be with the hookah and the dream every weekend no i don't not every weekend if I'm dating somebody, I wanna do things other than that and a lot of the people that, this is another conversation in the group chat, a lot of my homegirls feel like in Atlanta, that's all the dates are. And that is fun in the beginning,

but then you wanna really dig deeper. You ain't gotta always go to the club and do hookah. You can go to Etheridge, you can go over on Bankhead. There are many traps to travel through. So they gotta surround the wrong guys. You know what I'm saying? I feel like the people that's coming through our chat, it's like they just want to go to Cheetah.

They want to be out. Like, that's it. I mean, well, yeah. I think, like I said, again, man, you attract the energy that you distribute. So if that's what they attract, then they should probably look within. You know what I'm saying?

And be the change they want to see. Stop going to Cheetah. You'll stop meeting people that don't want to go to Cheetah. You know what I'm saying? There's good food over there. See what I'm saying? That's all they told you. Yeah, girl, go to Cheetah.

They got good wine. Now, Joe, you took a step back, man. You took a step back. You ain't put out albums since, what, 2015? Took a step back. I mean, like, as far as putting out albums? Yeah. Yeah.

Like, you know what I mean? Over that period of time, I still put out, like, little pieces of projects and things of that nature. You know what I mean? And I think we did, after that, we had TikTok. You know what I mean? I think we did, after that we had TikTok. You know what I'm saying? Put out TikTok. And then I went into rehab and stuff like that.

So I've been rebuilding myself as a person. You know what I mean? I felt like I should dig into the inside of me and find out what I have to give to the public. You know what I mean? Find out mean you don't have to use that voice i think it's good in all people. You feel what I'm saying? And if nobody can find the good in you or see the good in you, I think you should give them a hug and tell them life is difficult for the blind.

You know? That's real. He had to dig deep. You know what I'm saying? He had to dig. When did you decide or what got you into rehab? When was that call and it said, this is the time? Because, I mean, for my whole career, I would see Dro in the club with me every week.

And Dro was performing. Dro was at every stage. You were the epitome of an artist because you were out. Yeah. Well, I got tired, like, of the same things. Like, you know what I mean? Like, over and over again, getting high and saying I'm not getting high and you know repeating repeating this man struggling this man talking about it real overcoming the real struggle that man back

in there because your crew just doesn't do nothing but laugh like even it's down to ti's like welcome to the server joe like nobody takes it serious it serious. But you know what, though? Bad pill got him. He let it all go after that. Bad pill got him. He's actually three. He's telling the truth. Nah, but, you know, it was more than that.

It was actually I overdosed. You feel what I'm saying? I used this platform with the thank God to... What's wrong with you, man? What's wrong with you? He's laughing in the background. That's your brother, right? That's your brother.

Crazy, man. He's the mechanic. K-Dub. He's the mechanic. The mechanic's always laughing. K-Dub is a dastardly individual, man. So you almost overdosed? Yo, I did.

You know what I mean? And all of these things happened. The overdose. My daughter was on drugs. And, you know, career-wise, I wasn't where I wanted to be. What is this? What's up with your man, man? Hey, you finna get slapped.

I mean, we cool, but I slapped the shit out of you by laughing. Oh, man. I'm just telling you, we cool. You ain't gonna slap me now. What you wanna do? You ain't gonna slap me. What you wanna do? You gonna hurt yourself?

Don't let him take you out of here. Sober Joe. Come on, man. Y'all made a bank here, though. Hey, listen. Hey, listen. Hey, both of y'all. All y'all.

Everybody came in the motherfucker with me. Hey, look. Everybody came in the motherfucker with me. y'all. Everybody came in the motherfucker with me. Hey, look. Everybody came in the motherfucker with me. Hey, look. Everybody came in the motherfucker with me. Hey, look. Remember who you came in and remember what we doing here, man. Come on, man.

Let's get this shit together, bro. All right? All right. I'm sorry, guys. And first of all, Joe, congratulations on being two years sober. Yeah, like I was saying. Three, actually. Three.

I'm approaching four. You feel what I'm saying? So, like, all of these things happened to where it made me want to actually seek something better. You know what I mean? So, when I took myself to rehab out in L.A., did a couple months out there, and it was cool. You know what I'm saying? I got back out, and I was still tempted to live that kind of life, but I saw what was in front of me, and I was like,

this is more valuable than what's behind me. What gave you the courage, I would say, to be able to talk about it, right? Because, you know, some people look about it as it's embarrassing, and then some people will say, you know, it could actually help people that's going through the same thing that you're actually going through or that you dealt with, you know? I mean, with the support team, you feel what I'm saying? Because the first time it happened, we had like an intervention

and he came up to me. You mean first time, like overdose first time? I need to know what a grand hustle intervention looks like. He came over, hey, Palmer. I'm like, bro, I'm delicate right now. But I mean, like the love I got and the support I got, it made me feel safe. And, you know what I'm saying?

Of course I do feel ashamed, you know what I'm saying, at first. You know what I mean? Why? It's a disease. There ain't nothing to be ashamed about. But because, like, we from, you don't supposed to let nobody see you like that. You know what I'm saying?

We always talk like, you know what I'm saying, once you find yourself in that position and your brother call you out on it, you be hoping that you can get rid of it before he come and check me. But when he come check me on it, I get mad at myself and be like, damn, I supposed to got straight before, you know what I mean, my manager would come or if he would come. You feel what I'm saying?

So it was a while. Now the other thing about it is, you know what I'm saying, and we've had the conversation before like is as long as he was battling his addiction longer he was on drug I never actually saw him do drugs I never saw it like you know saying so whatever he would do he do it and I don't know whether he would have why he was around me and that but I was but what I'm saying is, while we was around each other, it was still like this. So when I went to him, I didn't even know,

I didn't know the difference, you know what I'm saying? I still, but I was concerned. So I'm like, hey man, I can't even fuck with you like that, man. Do what you gonna do, bro. Do what you gonna do, bro. I ain't finna sit around and watch you do this. I ain't gonna do it.

I feel like I remember that period when you, it feel like you was giving joe tough love like you had to put him to the side you didn't cut him off i didn't put him to the side i just told him man you're gonna either man i can't just continue to support you deteriorate or deteriorate destroy yourself you got and he was like, man, all right, I got it. Because the funniest thing, that man told me, because when he overdosed, so wait a minute now. Stop. I'm trying to be, I'm trying to be, hey man, stop, bro. Look, man.

You and Charlamagne the same. You know that? When I go through my problems or whatever, he laughs at me. I'm like, it's not time to laugh. But no, no, no. But it helped me through it, though. I ain't going to front. But look, no.

Hear me out. so this is what i'm saying now god bless all of the people who have you know i'm saying who have overcame uh addiction and god bless the people who have succumbed to it um and so many of our leaders and so many of our um just the the heroes of our culture are passing away you know yeah you know could defend our evident is is real and we've seen so many people like like like fall and not make it mm-hmm it may have made it three times three Mm-hmm. Three times. Mm-hmm. And the first time they called me and he was, you know what I'm saying,

somewhere with people that I would feel like, you know what I'm saying, wouldn't have the same care to do the things that need to be done, but he still made it. Mm-hmm. And I could be, you know what I'm saying, that I'm speaking more of the area than I am about the people. But after that, they called me, and I said,

hell nah, man, you lying. So I come, I say, bro, man, man, what's up, bro? He's like, man, nothing. I said, what you mean, nothing? I said, what's up? I said, man, I know you ain't gonna fuck around and off yourself. And he say, man, that shit didn't even happen. I said, it didn't happen. I didn And he say, man, that shit didn't even happen.

I didn't feel like, well, I didn't know what fentanyl was. You feel what I'm saying? To be honest with you, like he said, it was a crazy pill. I didn't, I wouldn't have asked for it. Hey, look, you got fentanyl. You feel what I'm saying? What drug was it? Was it Percocet? No, it was Perc.

It was Perc. So once I took it, I didn't believe it. You feel what I'm saying? So when that happened, I felt like now I'm obligated to tell my story so it can help somebody that's fighting addiction. You know what I mean? We just lost an Atlanta legend to Fentanyl. You feel what I'm saying?

That's right. Atlanta legend to fit in. You feel what I'm saying? You know, and for me to be done made it through, I think that, you know, I should use this platform that I have, you know, that he shares with me. And then it was also after we lost our partner, our partner, Peanut the Dun. Peanut the Dun. Peanut the Dun, like, he died the same way. Same way.

You know what I'm saying? But it's a calling on this man's life. So when you say, why is he sharing it? I don't think he has a choice. No. I feel like he was kind of positioned to survive all the stuff that he survived and to have the effortless connection with community. You know what I'm saying?

If you go anywhere in Atlanta, you're going to see Joe Cousins. I don't give a damn where you go, what part of the city you in. You're going to see somebody who related to young Joe. And he done been to every high school in the city. He know everybody. And, you know, to have that community tie, but then have this testimony that you can share with these people, and, you know what I'm saying, to inspire and uplift,

like that's special. You know what I mean? Like, Joe and uplift. Like, that's special. Like, Dro, you give rich pastor energy. Rich pastor? Yeah. Pastor Drew? Yes, you do. That's why the Thank God record makes so much sense to me when I hear it.

Yeah, I feel like I have, you know, the ability to give a ministry, not a minister, you know what I mean? Like, you know, like to, you know, growing up in a church and stuff like that, you know, I just came back to that, you know what I mean? But, you know, this right here was a blessing, man. And, you know, Tip called and was like, hey, I think you should start to tell,

because I did a lot of interviews in the beginning, and I didn't want to say it, you know what I mean? But I said it on this track and I thought that I should say it to God first. You feel what I'm saying? And on that platform. That was the first time you really made an announcement. People knew that you was clean, but they didn't know what got you.

They didn't know, yeah. Just like the question you asked, what made you, and I used to always be around it. And I was like, well, I ain't ready to say it yet. You know what I mean? But when he came along and said, I think you should start telling it, I was like well I ain't ready to say it yet you know I mean but when when he came along and said I think you should start telling it I was like what what better way how did you feel how did you feel um after you're in the studio and you finally say it it's on it's on the record like did you feel weight lifted off of you or did you were you anxious about how people

would respond to knowing exactly what happened or I felt like a weight lifted off of me because of where we recorded at with Kirk Franklin. I overdosed in that studio. Wow. So I think that where I broke myself at, God built me right back up. Was that a purposely done thing or God just ended up back at that studio? It just happened that way. You know what I'm saying?

And I was shamed to go back to the studio. And I was talking to God. I was like, I don't want to go back. And then he was like, go back in there and watch what I do. You know what I mean? So you knew you was going to record this and go out and record. But you didn't even know. I didn't know that.

Wow, wow, wow, wow. Well, he was actually at the studio for something. I think he was working on the PSC album. So he was in the studio for something. And then I was just like, hey, Kurt on the way. He was like, what? Now? I'm finna do mine now.

I'm finna go. You know what I'm saying? So he went on and laid his verse down right then that day. But it was definitely ordained. Yeah, initially I was ashamed to go back to the studio because everybody was there. You feel what I'm saying? So when we started working on the PSC album, I just was like there you feel what i'm saying so so until so when we

started working on the psc album i just was like you know what i'm saying he never even told me i didn't even know i didn't i wasn't cool coming back in there you feel me i thought i've been laid all out on the floor you know what i'm saying but once i once i got the opportunity i just swallowed that took that walk of shame went back in there and recorded, not knowing that God was going to rebuild me and give me a platform to actually share with people what happened to me right there. And, you know, get the glory out of it. You dig what I'm saying? Did you hear God in that moment? Did you like? I heard him in that moment. Wow.

Yeah. I was going to ask, did you deal with why you needed or why you thought you needed those pills? Was it upset? Was it I wanted to turn up? Was did you think you needed it why you thought you needed those pills was it upset was it i wanted to turn up was did you think you needed it to make a record did you deal with that part of it because that's the part that scares me with any artist because it's like you take it feeling like it's going to take you to someplace else and it's like well what made you feel like i had to take that pill um to it started out with like just having fun and you know in the hood getting high but then it made me feel like um i needed it to make good music you know i'm saying and it actually just stimulated and i used to just write

crazy and then it got to the point where like it became an addiction so it that went out the window music went out the window and then i was like oh i need it to you know do this and do that you know i'm saying plus from trauma you know i'm what I'm saying? Plus from trauma, you know what I'm saying? Things happened to me when I was younger, you know what I mean, being shot and introduced to Demerol and addicted to that in the hospital. And you know, from the way I got whoopings as a child, that trauma, you know what I'm saying?

Boy, we don't talk about that enough, man. Yeah. Lord have mercy. It's trauma? Yeah. Lord have mercy. I, I, I, it's trauma? Yeah. That's discipline. That's not, that's not. Extension cord?

Oh, yeah, extension cord and stuff like that. I used to get beat with an extension cord. I, I, I ain't, I ain't. I can't speak on that. That's trauma. That's trauma. You ain't lying. I got, I got to work on the extension cord and stuff like that.

You know what I'm saying? We was tied up and beat like, but, but. Tied up. Like, but to be honest with you, family like um we we thought my mama had five boys so it was hard to discipline five boys on her own where are you youngest oldest middle i'm right after the oldest okay i mean so when she laid the belt down and it was necessary because right all of us are living today none of us are really like that bad of people but and she did the best but when you whipping like that,

you have to be careful about how you do it. It's cool to whip your child and discipline them, but if you're going to beat the shit out of them, then you might as well get ready for something in them that you don't know about. Because now that I'm older, she's probably surprised when she hears this. You feel what I'm saying?

How does that affect you with your kids? How you discipline your kids? I see, I've recognized it, and I'm not gonna do it to that degree. I'm a stray mind, but I ain't gonna go that far, cause I don't want the repercussion. I feel like, as far as child discipline is concerned, they just need to know that they can get their ass whooped.

You see what I'm saying? You don't always have to whoop their ass, but you got to do it. You got to lay it down one time, and they're like, hey, you... You remember. Okay, now. You see what I'm saying?

Y'all got boys. I got all girls, so it's different. Oh, no, you can't get a whoop-your-girl, man. You can't whoop your girl. That's what I'm saying. Y'all got a strong black woman with you. That's right. Absolutely.

Hey, man, I want to apologize to my friend. I got beside myself. I shouldn't have took feelings to that. You know what I'm saying? That's my dude right there, man. You know what I'm saying? I ain't finna be slapping no goddamn bad. You know what I'm saying?

That's my dog. Hey man, listen. Hey man, we all here together. We came here together. We gonna leave here together. We gonna grow together. You know what I'm saying? So, you know.

I just had to make that. So we gonna have good times. We gonna have bad times. Absolutely. You know, but one thing we ain't gonna have is no broke times. You know what I'm saying? I just had to make that. We're going to have good times. We're going to have bad times. Absolutely. But one thing we ain't going to have is no broke times. I can't hear that. What's up? You did say something, Joe.

Your daughter was on drugs too, you said? Yeah, my little girl ended up picking up drugs. But it happened just like how I did it when I was 17, 18. You feel me? And it just played back. And it's the generational curse that how my father was. My father picked it up at that age, and he did it for 50 years. You feel me and it just played back and it's the generation generational curse that like how my father was my father picked it up at that age and he did it for 50 years you feel me then i picked it up and then i i lived that way then my little girl and i and i was thinking about it and all of

this happened before i went to rehab the overdose this and all of that you feel what i'm saying um so when it when she did it i looked at god and it was just like he had just revealed himself like, hey, I'm here now. It's time to start grabbing this by the reins. You know what I'm saying? So when that happened, I was in rehab while she was out. We supposed to went together to get the help. You know what I'm saying?

She wasn't ready, but I had to go ahead of her to be an example. How's she doing now? I actually broke this curse in my family. That's what's up, my brother. That's what you know and how's she doing now i actually broke this curse in my family because that's what's up how is she doing now she's good man she's working at the hospital amen we talk all the time she she's doing great man she's clean amen you have the um it takes a village uh foundation that you do where you're in the schools talking to the kids when you're talking to the kids like what are you dissecting from your story too because some of the kids i saw in these videos were really young so what are the

main issues you're seeing with the kids and and how do you take your story and kind of mentor them up a bit um so what what we do is it it still takes a village we're in the communities and in and in the schools and in the homes and we do like interventions and I use what I've been through and and then my my manager Dr. Sierra L she is like she's been an LPC for 20 years and she's into mental and behavioral health you feel what I'm saying so when we when we come in and when we come into a situation like I try to I try to bring the street part into it you feel what I'm saying and let people know you know what to do when you're like conflict resolution if you out in the street part into it you feel what i'm saying and let people know you know what to do when you're like conflict resolution if you're out in the street and you feel like you don't want to be

no lame and this and that but some sometimes they diagnose these young kids with things that that's not wrong with them you feel me oh they be like oh he bipolar or he um he he mad at you know but only thing is he probably be mad at his dad because he wasn't at home or they don't have, you know, nothing to eat or, you know what I'm saying? But we give them, we diagnose them with stuff like that. But my partner, she covers that area, and I can tell them about the street part. So we do mentoring and stuff like that, you know?

Do they know when you come in because the kids are so young? Like, do they know young Joe the artist? Or are they just happy that someone's in the school talking to them that they can relate to? Well, in Atlanta, nine times out of ten, I've probably been in that project before. Got you. You feel what I'm saying?

Tell your man to be everywhere. Tell your man to know everybody, man. He's going to look and say, hey, man, who your mommy is? Who your daddy is? Yeah, man, tell your dad I said what's up. He's one of those kind of people. But we do want to go across America for the most part.

You feel me? So if you can't identify with who I am as a rapper, you'll identify with what I've been through. And what I've been through is what a lot of youth go through. You know what I mean? Rather black, white, whatever. You feel what I'm saying? Like you've been through,

if you done been through the trenches before, I have trenches stories and I have an outcome that I made it out, you know what I'm saying? And you and Joe go way back, right? Yeah, we done been through some shit, man. When y'all first met, middle school? Nah, nah, nah, I ain't know him in middle school, man. I was about 17, something.

We were probably right at the dropout age, you know what I'm saying? The dropout age sounds crazy. I just didn't voluntarily drop out. Me too, though. I got kicked out of Riverdale, Mildred. So my mama moved me from the west side to what was at that time the suburbs. And King hate when I call it the suburbs.

You know what I'm saying? He hate that. That's where me and him fall out back because he really is, South, that's his area where he grew up and lived. He like, ain't no suburb, man. Like, well, it was when I moved out, you know. Y'all had J. Got Y'all Boucher?

Nah, we had been had about. We had J. Got Y'all. Yeah, we had moved from, we had moved. What was the voucher? The house. Six-nay voucher. Oh, got you. You got a six-nay voucher.

So, and these was some, like was some real, real good apartments. Yeah, carpet, AC. Yeah, everything, man. It wasn't central, central AC, you know what I mean? So when we moved out, I had been there since eighth grade. Y'all got y'all voucher early. Yeah, so I had a voucher before then, you know what I'm saying? Yeah, look.

I'm a Section 8 food stamp baby, man. Yes, you is indeed. I don't know nothing about the EBT. I remember snatchinger before then. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, look. I'm a Section 8 food stamp baby, man. Yes, you is indeed. I don't know nothing about the EBT. I remember snatching the food stamps out the book. The brown one and the purple five and the green ten. We had blues back then. We were spending blues back then. But no, so eighth grade, I moved out there.

And then, you know, I was going back and forth. When I got kicked out of Riverdale High School for inciting the race war. Actually, I got kicked out of Riverdale High School for inciting the race war. Actually I got kicked out of all the race wars. I got kicked out of all Clayton County schools. He said that like he was in the race war. I do this all the time, race war. That's really what they called it.

But what happened was me and my partner booze in school suspension and then you know what I'm saying, it was a white boy that called us a nigga and we got to get in on his head and uh then you know his sister came around the corner and she yeah she called us some too get out my brother and we got to kick her head and then everybody and everybody was getting out of school like and it was just black people fighting white people and i'm gonna tell y'all something the white teachers jumped in no yeah. Yeah, man. The white teachers.

You know how you're supposed to be breaking up a fight. They'd be like, you know what I'm saying? Damn. Yeah, yeah, I remember that. And after the melee, you know, didn't nobody get kicked out but me and Boo. You know what I'm saying? So after that, I went back to the west side for a minute. Got in a whole lot of trouble.

Caught my first case. Well caught my first case as an adult. So I was dealing with that. So I had to move back with my mama. And around then, that's when I was like 16, 17 years old, and that's when Dro had moved out there. And so then it was like we two West Side guys just out here, and we just clicked instantly. It was sweet out there, man. Our Knicks went for like 30.

Yeah. You know what I'm saying? We used to literally go to Joan Burr's house, it was like Thughood. We used to literally go to Joan Burr's house and buy dime bags of weed. And we drove back to our side of town and sold them for $30, $40.

It was really that sweet. But anyway, and I'm not, we are not, let's not. You're not going to find that. You're just telling your life. This is just a testimonial. This is our testimony. We lived through this, and we earned the right to speak on it. Don't try it.

You remember y'all first meeting? Because the diamonds are not that big no more. So it ain't going to work today. You remember the first time y'all met each other? Well, that would be on me because he was already there. So it was just this apartment that was just booming. I kept seeing all the cars. You know, when you get there, you be like, where is that?

You know what I'm saying? When you move somewhere, you be like, where is that, man? You feel me? And then I just kept seeing it. And then, you know, he served out the wonder. You know what I'm saying? And, you know, my served out the wonder. You know what I'm saying? And, you know, my partner knew him, the other little partner I met named Ben.

He knew him, you know what I'm saying? And we just all just, and I ended up going over there, and I knew the way he talked was like how we talk, how he was moving, it was like how we move, because we were from Bankhead. You feel me? It seemed like we was destined to meet because we was on one side of town.

I was in Bankhead Court. He was up the street in Center Hill. Then we moved to Riverdale. Then, you know what I'm saying, not even knowing that this was going to come together. You know what I'm saying? But it was all... And I also had a little studio.

So I was selling dope, but I also had a little studio in my room, right? And Droka rapped, you know what I'm saying? And so, you know, we'll be rapping and shit. And I had like a keyboard with some little speakers and shit. So I'd be doing my beat and cutting up my dope at the same time. And Dro was like, man, what you trying to do?

I said, man, I'm gonna be a rapper. I'm cutting my goddamn ounces up. He's like, I can't tell you, you won't be no damn rapper, you know what I'm saying? And that's kind of how we bonded. He wasn't really selling dope. He was out there and in the mix, but he didn't for some reason have no interest.

He really wanted to be a rapper. He was really, really, really serious about it. And he got a deal before I did. So I didn't know that. Yeah, yeah. Dro had a deal. He had two deals. Who came to you first?

Oh, you signed up. I'm about to say the wrong. Raheem. Raheem the Dream. Yep, yeah, Drow had a deal. He had two deals. Who came first? It's online, oh you signed up. I'm about to say it wrong. Raheem. Raheem the Dre. Raheem the Dre. Yep, yep, yep, yep, yep. I was on the radio, like one day he was at the radio station and I called up there, but I was already on the radio.

I think you were putting out on Sirius or something like that and I called in and he was like, yeah this Drow, she was like, Drow, Drow. And I was like, nigga, that Dwan. And he was like, Dwan, you like, you Drow? I was like, yeah,, that's DeJuan. And he was like, DeJuan? He was like, You Dron? I was like, Yeah.

You know what I'm saying? But I was already on the radio by then. So when did you meet? So you met, KP is the one who really got you. KP right there. Yeah, KP. He,

I met KP through DJ, no, Jason. Jason took me, Jason, DJ Toomp, and my cousin Toomp. God bless him. He, they took me, Jason, DJ Toomp, and my cousin Toot, God bless him, they took me at an intervention because when I told you I caught that dope case,

they put me on seven years of probation. I was 17 years old at the time. But me and Toomp, Toot, and Jay, all of us had put our money together to work on like a demo. You know what I mean? And so they get it. But I had just found out that I was about to have my first child. So after that, in my mind, I'm like, oh, no, I can't live like this having a baby. I got to get it.

I got to get it together. So I just kind of like, in my mind, I was like, okay, so I'm going to just sell a whole bunch of dope in a little bit of time. And stack me up enough money and do what I need to do. But in the process of doing that, I was like up all times of night, riding a bicycle, all up and down, bankhead, all kinds. I tell my no matter what time, from 5 in the morning, 8 p.m., 12 p.m., all times of day, I'm just riding my bike up and down with a backpack, like a little messenger, like a messenger,

and just trapping and saving and trapping and saving. And they had an intervention because they had found out. I was trying not to let them know what I was doing, but I guess word got around they found out, and they sat me down like, hey, man, how is we going to be investing our money in you if you continue to do what you're doing? You get locked up, you're already on probation, and everything we're working for is going to be investing our money in you if you continue to do what you're doing? You get locked up.

You're already on probation. Man, everything we're working for is going to be for nothing. I'm like, man, I got a baby on the way. I tell you what, you take me somewhere right now, man, where I can showcase my talent and I can actually, you know, somewhere that I can actually get a deal and do this professionally. And then you can ask me to stop. I ain't stopping just to be stopping. And then I think Tump and my cousin are like, man, that's not even reasonable. How can you say something? and then you can ask me to stop. I ain't stopping just to be stopping. And then I think Tump and my cousin were like,

man, that's not even reasonable. How can you say something? And then Jason say, I know a place. I say, see, I like him. And so at the time, KP's a part of a group called PA Parental Advisory Extension Organized. I know it. And they had their own deal with DreamWorks and they was doing an album

and as it was described to me, the album was supposed to be like The Chronic. How The Chronic had a bunch of unknown guys and Dre was doing the beats. So they was looking for talent. They were looking for unknown talent. And so Jason called him and said, man, I got somebody, man,

it's gonna be harder than anything you listening to. And so they said, man, I got somebody, man. It's going to be hard. It's going to be harder than anything you're listening to. And so he said, bring them. So we went that same night. We went. And KP wasn't there, but the other two members, Mello and Reese, they were there. And I think Reese probably, I think Mello played a beat, and Reese was like, you can rap on that?

I said, can I rap? Man, what a booth. I go straight in the booth, one take it. They were like, where you been? I like, she ride my bike up and down the walkway. Ride my bike. And then they told KP about me and they told me about KP

and I gave him my beeper number. Yeah, that's how long ago it was. My beeper number, wow. My beeper number, I gave him my beeper number. You know how long ago so it was about two weeks and I was like yeah exactly just like I thought nothing happened I'm back on my bike and I got a I got a page you know when I got a page with no code and And that was strange. You know what I'm saying? Because all my pages came with codes, so I know where to go and what to bring with me. And so I just, I rolled down to the payphone.

Again, show you how long ago this was. So I rolled down to the payphone and called and said, LaFace Records, thank you. I said, who the fuck wants some dope at LaFace Records? Somebody at Page Tip. And then it was like, oh, it must have been KP. And then I was like, who KP? And then he was like, yo, you was in the studio with Reese and Mello, man,

and I'm KP, that's my group. And, you know, I got a record label, Ghetto Vision, and we going out to the Source Awards in L.A. We want to know if you want to come. I'm like, who going? They're like, know if you wanted to come. I'm like, who going? They're like, just me. KP, he has this way of just throwing away some very, very monumental moments.

Like, oh man, just me, OutKad, Goody Mom, Cool Breeze, Youngbloods, we just gonna go hang. I say, all right, let me check my schedule. Let me see what I got to do. Okay, yeah, I'm free, man. I think I can make it. And so at that point, I'm like, okay, well I gotta get up enough money to get out here

so I can take care of myself and handle myself like a player. So I went and got, I went and got, I was getting two and a baby at the time so I paid for my re-up but then I told him to front me another uh another one on top of that you know so I had me a little four-way and so I sold half of it had the money put the rest of it back so when I said when I come back then I'm gonna trap this and then that'll be my re-up you know I'm saying for for my net load so I went out there man I ended up freestyling on the tour bus with Goody Mud and OutKat I ended up doing the

camera blocking Kukubri was driving from Atlanta to LA the tour bus no no he's driving his car he didn't fly he didn't fly so Atlanta to L.A. and made it. But missed the camera blocking. So they said, man, we need somebody to do the camera blocking for Coob Report on Watch for the Hook. I'm like, I know the song. Man, so I ended up on the stage with OutKat, Goody Mom, Witch Doctor, and, you know, Backbone, the whole organization, Rico Wade. I mean, everybody. And everybody, like, embraced me and said, like, where you from, bro? I'm like, man, the whole organization, Rico Wade. I mean, everybody. And everybody, like, embraced me and said, like, where you from, bro?

I'm like, man, I'm from Atlanta. No, where you from, bro? Like, man, I'm from the west side. Where? Bankhead. Where? Nigga, Center Hill, Baker Road. What's up, bro?

They were like, oh, shout it from the town, for real. And I remember the one, the one I really felt like I had made it, right? So we came back, I think, maybe from camera blocking or maybe from some official thing where everybody went to. We came back. We was all in the lobby of the hotel. And I'm looking this way at CeeLo, Kujo. I'm looking this way at Big Boy and Dre. Of course, Dre went straight to his room. You know what I'm saying?

But everybody just hanging out, right? And then, you know, I was always kind of like, I just had a way with attracting ladies and stuff. And, you know, of course, a group of niggas, everybody was like, man, what a girl, what a girl, what a girl. So I was like, man, you know, I go to, and we was right across the street from the Beverly Center, at the Sofitel, right across the street from the Beverly Center at the Sofitel right across the street from the Beverly Center LA I'm like man

I go to the mall get some girls so me and KP went to the mall but then where we was finna go I remember big boy said

hey man yeah when you get back man come on up to the room man blow one man I say huh big boy from OutKid just told me

to come smoke one with him and hell yeah so we go come back I go knock on big boy room smoking and we chilling and talking i'm like man nigga i have made it i'm in here smoking with big boy from outcast and i just freestyle with with c-load and man i went back home i gave that dope away i didn't never i didn't want to sell no more dope no more.

I told my plug, I said, hey bro, I feel like I do the rap shit, so I ain't got your money right now. I haven't spent all the money that I had. I ain't got your money right now. I don't even want to risk it. He said, you know what bro, you don't owe me nothing, long as you doing that.

But you get back in the game, I want my money. Did you ever go back and get money? I did not. No, no. He had called a case, man. He had called a case and he, he, he, he, he, he was gone before I could get them, get to him. You know, this week was 23 years of I'm serious.

I'm serious. Came out October 9th, 2001. God damn. Okay. And there were two years before that. So there were 25 years ago. Hey. Yeah.

Hey. Won't he do it? Thank God. I was just thinking, what's your conversations with God? Y'all stories are amazing. Oh, I'm busy, man. God is my partner. Tip cover.

Yes, like wow. Throw cover too, but tip cover. I mean, I think- I'm super covered. Yeah, I think we both are. That's kinda why I think we kinda, we understand the position that the other, I understand his position, he understand my position.

I understand, like, I know that God got his hand on him because I can see it. Man, I'm on borrowed time. You feel me? I don't know if I'm supposed to be sitting right here doing this interview. I saw him lifeless. I saw him. I saw it with my own eyes. There's no amount of money I saw him lifeless. I saw him. I saw it with my own eyes. There's no amount of money

you can pay for that. Not in person, but my son, like the money was actually the one that walked in and saw him. He FaceTimed me

and said, hey, what's up with Joe? I'm trying to wake him up. He won't wake up. And I'm like, Joe! Joe! Hey, man.

That's what woke me up. I was like, this nigga's so annoying. Even in my own nose, he was annoying. He was like, get your ass up, man. Get your ass up, man. He said, then I heard

something. He said, what's wrong? I was like, I don't know. What do you mean? All he was doing was, it was like he was trying to talk back, but he couldn't talk back. You know what I'm saying? I was like, man, go call the Ambulance, man. And you know what I'm saying? They said like, man, go call the ambulance, man. And you know what I'm saying?

They said if Demani hadn't got that one year. Yeah, Demani was actually, my nephew actually, he did the CPR thing. That's God. Talk about a family of friends. How old was he? Demani was doing CPR? Yeah, how old was he performing CPR? Yeah, he almost broke my chest. He knew how to do CPR?

Yeah, we did. When I was up and I came to, I was like, my chest is killing me. It was like, man, that's all I got. You going to be dead or anything? How old was Damani at that age? He might have been 19. Wow. And you taught Damani CPR?

No, we all did. So back, you know, back, because my sister Precious, she used to have asthma attacks all the time. And so because she had asthma attacks all the time, and she was living in the house with us, we never didn't want one of the kids. Actually, somebody did walk in while she was having an asthma attack and didn't know what to do, and that what prompted us to get everybody some CPR training. Wow.

I don't know if everybody remember it, you know what I'm saying, but obviously he did. Yeah. To say I'm covered is an understatement. I something to do yeah it's a purpose it's something that i have that's how i feel too bro i feel like you know what i'm saying it's a perfect god got me here because i could man you remember that shootout we were seeing hey bro listen to me how do y'all remember shootouts i was actually healing up from a gunshot wound.

You feel what I'm saying? So I still had staples in my stomach, you know, that was healing up. And, you know, these cats. It was so funny, bro. Look, man. Shout out to them. We were really going to fight these dudes, right? Because, you know, I was sitting.

What T.I. was this? Was this before sign? Yeah, it was before. This was platinum T.I. No, we wasn't no rappers. I ain't touched no dope. I ain't touched no dope since that day. I ain't touched no dope.

You know what I'm saying? I might have seen a little bit, but I ain't touched it. You know what I'm saying? But anyway, so they was telling on me because I guess they had just moved out there, and I guess they wanted to get in and have their little motion. And I already had all the motion in the apartments. And so they were telling the police, and it was a particular police officer that was cool,

you know, I ain't going to say no name, but he used to buy weed from them. And you know what I'm saying, when he was buying the little weed and stuff, he was like, man, you know them folk up there, you know them folk telling people down there about you. I'm like, I know you live. And so I walk up, you know, seeing them,, man. You know them folk telling people down there about you. I'm like, I know you, lad. And so I walk up, you know, seeing them, probably the next day,

and tap on the window. I said, hey, bro, you know what happened when, you know what I'm saying, folks saying my name at police stations. You know what happened where I'm from, right? He just rode up and pulled off. And so, you know what I'm saying. So I was like, I know what to do about this. So me and that one got out on my panel from the west side.

Man, we had dog chains. We came, man. We were on the west side man we had dog chains and so you know i went to joe house and we walking down walking down the hill smoking and we said daddy go right there but these days we're walking up there we walk up so we walk up there this walking out the shadows it's's big. They had on gold gym. They look like gold gym. These niggas grown. These niggas look like. Lee Haney.

Lee Haney type. Wait a motherfucking minute, man. No, no, no, no, no. Hey, man, let's switch to another plan. Let's switch to another plan. No, he was like, what, hell no. So we. The real thing, they look like gold gym logos.

We up the five starstar blabbing. Man, this nigga drove. The shootout's going this way, right? You know this nigga drove right in straight through here just like that. And looked at me. I said, what the fuck did you do? No shirt on. I was like, this chain ain't going to help this dude.

I'm like, why is you running this way, bro? Hey, man, that shit was funny. We all went back. So after the shootout, everybody bust break out, go their own way. We all make our way back to Dro's. How could that be? We left her. We made it back to Dro apartment.

And in the apartments, it's like a, it's a building. You walk in the building. There's two apartments downstairs. There's a stairway upstairs and two apartments upstairs. So we go in the building we knock on the door and we can hear the police so we laying down we're knocking on the door joe mama say hell no don't bring that shit in here y'all ain't coming in here you stay on the outside there so we said everybody lined up on the step we trying mom you got to let us in

y'all ain't coming in here oh my lord have mercy let us in So now when she let us in, all of us land on the floor while the apartments is being flooded with police. And mind you, every time me and him get together, they kicking in the door or the police come and they try to take us away. You know what I'm saying? Let me ask you a question. When y'all get together like this, right?

No, no, no. Y'all ain't trying to separate us. But when y'all get together like this in these moments, right? One moment that's coming to mind is at the MTV Awards. I ain't trying to separate it. But when y'all get together like this in these moments, right? One moment that's coming to mind is at the MTV Awards. When y'all came out and performed Shoulder Lean, but then you did what you know about that by yourself. Being that y'all done been through all of those

life or death situations and all of that type of shit, what is y'all mindset when y'all in those moments? Y'all just look at each other and laugh like, God. We don't really think about it until, like we don't talk about it until like now. We just, you know, if we weren't here, we probably wouldn't, we creating new moments. Word, word, word, word.

You know what I'm saying? The next moment is probably what we thinking about. Rebuilding, creating new moments is the thing. Yeah, yeah. And you know, Tim, we watch black people get their IP stolen all the time. Likeness gets stolen all the time. And it's usually big fish eats little fish with these corporations.

What made you want to go to war with that corporation? Numerous times, too. Yeah, I'm going to be very, very clear, concise with my messaging. I'm going to be honest and direct. I did not want to. It was my wife. My wife was the one. Yeah, she was the one who was pressing the hell out of the issue.

She kept pressing the hell out of the issue. She kept pressing the hell out of the issue. And I'm glad she did. You know what I'm saying? I'm glad she did. God bless. You know, that's what marriage is for. That's what it is. And I think, you know, it was her tenacity.

And I saw it, but I just didn't see how you know we could just keep pushing it pushing it pushing it like that and it that shit was costly you know what I'm saying we were probably like three and a half million in and and every time we go back to court there's another seven figure bill and then the last time we we had lost case, you know, for whatever reason, and then he had the nerve to send me his bill. I said, I know you fucking lying. And then the law changed, the law changed that said that the First Amendment

could no longer protect, you know, when it comes to likenness and so on. I think it was some kind of Jack Daniels case where it was a little puppy, like a little dog, a little Jack Russell dog, and I think it had something similar to Jack Daniels on it, and they thought that they could do that. And Jack Daniels, the whiskey, was like, no, y'all can't do that he's like no it's a parody and we protected under the First Amendment and the Supreme Court ruled no you're not and

that's what got us back in court the judge said okay well this law change so we have to go and we had to revisit this all over again and thank and thank God you know we did and judge was extremely he was extremely fell you know, we did. And Judge was extremely, he was extremely fair, you know. And I think that the jury that we had could see through a lot of the shenanigans and nonsense that the other side was trying to pull. Although I understand the other side's position. You know, this guy, he's, you know, he's a billionaire, right? And I'm sure he not in there, motherfucker, looking every day at who dolls and trying to say what.

So I'm sure there's some people who he had put in a position who probably didn't want to do some work. Right. And just said, you know what? I could just take this and do this and then that. He won't know. You know, and he probably didn't. And that's your ass, Mr. Boots. And then, but now, hey.

The crazy thing is, if they probably would have offered you guys a deal, you guys probably would have did a deal with them back in the beginning. Yeah, absolutely, man. I mean, like, at the beginning, we've had several mediations, and he just never wanted to come to the table and mediate. You know what I'm saying? He never even thought that he even had to consider, you know, like, resolving this.

Wow. I mean, I get it because, like you say, corporations do it all the time. I get people are so used to it. It's become the norm. He didn't think that it deserved any consideration. Luckily, the judge and the jury thought different. What was your first thought when the ruling came down for the win, though? What was your first thought?

Thank God. Man, yeah, that's it. I was with KP, actually. And I was filming. I didn't make it to the day when the deliberation was handed down. So you must have thought you were going to lose anyway. No, I had to shoot a movie. We just got through shooting Departments Part 2. And as a director, you know, were going to lose anyway. No, I wasn't. I had to shoot a movie. We just got through shooting Apartments Part 2. And as a director, you know, I got to be there.

I took one week off, and they said it was going to be done that week. And then the next week, like it was supposed to be done by Friday. They went into deliberation on Friday and were told to come back Friday with the verdict. But they didn't. So they said it's gonna be Monday I said man I can't come back Monday I got to go back to work

so I did and I'm on the phone and I'm listening and we still shooting too we still supposed to be filming I said man y'all handle it y'all handle it

no he didn't you handle it I was like cut hey man yeah cause I I walked out in the middle of a scene and so they still going they like hey deal I was like, cut. Hey, man. Yeah, because I walked out in the middle of a scene. And so they still going.

They like, hey, what's up? I was like, man, shh. And then KP said, I cut. I can tell you how I felt. I was like, you remember what we had talked about? Make sure you give me my little P. That's all I need. But I didn't know no number I was listening

and I heard them say you know that you know that like the first infringement or so on

and so forth and they were talking it went down the list of dolls which one did which one didn't but then I heard a number 17 point

some million I said 17 million how about yeah I did I said 17 million and everybody looked at Yeah, I did. I said, 17 million. And everybody looked at me and said, huh?

And so I hung up the phone, and then we had to go fly to Vegas to do a show. Oh, Arizona. We had to fly to Arizona to do a show. And while we were on the plane, they went back into the liberation for punitive damages. And they came back with the punitive 53 million 53 million plus the 17 I said got that turn the plane around

and I text again I was like don't forget that piece you better stop showing that like this you better stop showing that like this and them lawsuits are tax free so, so there's no taxes taken. No, that's not true. Oh, damn. Don't put that out there like that.

Now, the actual damages. For the actual damages, there are no taxes because the taxes... So actual damages are, you know, whatever dolls that they say look the most like the girls, what those dolls made. so those are actual damages and and and the the taxes were already put into the they were taken from the gross before this so the taxes were

paid on this money so this on this no well on the punitive you do have to you do have to pay taxes it's still a come up still It's still a lick. I mean, man, no, it's a blessing. A blessing. A blessing. You're right. A blessing. You're right. You're right. You're right. You're right. You're right.

Words matter. You're right. You're right. You're right. You're right. You're right. You're right. You're right.

It's a lick. It's a blessing. Come on, man. This is a blessing, sir. You're right. Yeah, but even more so, I love to see, like, my daughters,

my daughter and my nieces, like, they also, like, they straight. You know what I'm saying? I saw people saying that on social media. It was like they also like they they straight you know i'm saying i saw people saying that on social media it was like i hope they get a girl so i'm like it's they fight you feel what i'm saying and and i feel like for them to be vindicated and you know the the come out victorious and to see that if you stand up for something and you know that, you know in your heart truly that you fighting for what's yours,

the outcome is going to be victorious as long as you claim it, believe it, and let God lead the way. I'm happy to be a part of the process of allowing them to see that. Mm-hmm. Wow. Now, sometimes these corporations...

And there's some more papers in there now. I'm going to tell you, there's some more dolls that came up that look like other celebrities. I'm just telling you, there's some more men out there. I'm just telling you. There's some more men out there.

Let me look on the site and see if there's anything that looks like them. I'm telling you. Now, these corporations do get to retaliate sometimes. Nah, I mean, you know what I mean? I mean, they have the right to appeal.

Yeah. They can exercise their right then to open the door for trademark. So trademark means now we're looking at all the dollars. So if you want to open up the door for trademark, you're going to open up the door for trademark. Go on and appeal. Now that 73 could turn to 23B.

So go ahead. Open it up. Do your thing. They got it. I mean, you know, but all you can do is come go ahead, open it up. Do your thing. They got it. They got it. I mean, you know, or you could just come on with that 70 right now. That's right.

Now, Joe, I saw Duvall post you, man. You was at a show the other day. I forgot where y'all performing at. Community service. Community service. And he said that you just one of the best performers, one of the best lyricists out there. Which people feel?

How did that make you feel? Oh, it made me feel good man it's long overdue i've always thought i've always thought that the talent and the craft i've always had respect for it and you know to to get my flowers for it man it's long overdue i mean i have i feel like that if you if you love the craft and respect it like the way i do because you know people you know people can get your music you know to get your album whatever and and that's one thing for somebody to have your album but i think that once the album died down and then you know it it just only depends on your talent and what you have to offer in a live show if you're what i'm saying

like oh well you know i want to see Dro perform live. You know what I mean? Because shout out to the live show. Crazy. I had to see the E-Ball once I met him in person and I seen it live. It carries. You know what I mean?

So I appreciate it, man. What will Dro's new music sound like? You know what I mean? Because, you know, you see Kendrick put out the Party Must Die record and we hear what Lecrae been saying, and D1, how they want more positive messages in the music. Is it going to be that? Are you going to really give the ministry?

Most definitely I'm going to make sure that I set aside time and use my vocals to put back into what happened to me, you know what I mean, and use it for use it for like a positive outlook on things, but I will not stop telling my truth and what, what's happening to us as, as a community and what society is, you know, has to offer us, you know what I mean? Like I won't, I won't shy away from telling you how I took a pill that killed me. I won't shy away from telling you that they serving them. You feel me?

I won't shy away from telling you that they serving them. You feel me? I won't shy away from telling you that most of the things that we do in the hood comes from, like, drug use. Like, a lot of things that go on in the hood, man, people be using drugs and with the mental state that we have, man, we out here doing the wrong stuff. You know what I'm saying? So I won't shy away from that. And I also use my platform to do songs with people like Dietrich Haddon,

like Run Out of Time, you know what I mean? And 1K Few, you know what I'm saying? Absolutely. Now, T.I., I got to ask. Now, you recently said, I will raise this child to torture you the way you tortured me. Talk about King about to have his first child. Is that true?

I mean, listen. I mean, he— Because he seems like the child that gave you the most problems. Man, I mean, to be honest with you, I'm going to keep it a book. King is, you know, he's always been a rambunctious, outgoing, energetic child. You know what I'm saying? But Jed, to be honest, compared to me and the shit that I did, he ain't really gave them kinds of problems. You know what I'm saying?

He gave something that might resemble, like it could, you know, become that, but he never, you know, did the kind of shit that I would do that I know about so I don't I can't say that you know he just gave me a whole lot of problems but the problem that he did get he did he gonna get him back he gonna have a son I'm just telling you and he gonna understand he gonna understand what it mean he can can't usually do shit like that. Let me tell you something. So I put, you know, Major.

I wanted to put Major and King in one of the best schools in Atlanta, Woodward. And we went. And Deja had already went to Woodward. And so now, you know, it's time for Major to find him a new school and I'm like well you put Major there man we'll put King there with him so we'll take Major and King and we do the test you know you had to have the you know the consultation and they had had the kid take a test and we'll have you yeah Major passed flying colors. And they was like, Major, I'm sure we'll find a spot for him. He's definitely with material.

He say, but your other son, is he okay? Is he okay? I said, what you mean, is he okay? He said, these are the lowest test scores we've ever seen. This man that went in here and intentionally failed the test. He wouldn't have to go to private school, man. He wanted to stay in public school out there with his friend. And so that's the kind of shit he did.

You know what I'm saying? Like, it ain't bad, but it like, boom! It actually shows his genius. It does. In a crazy way, that shows his genius. I know how to stick around. I know how to be where I want to be. He still didn't get to be where he wanted to be.

I sent him way on the other side of town to another school that he couldn't stand. But he made it through. He stuck through it. And you know what I'm saying? And then COVID happened. So that kind of shined on him. Now, there was another video of you and Boosie talking to your sons about the video with the firearms in it. So how was that conversation?

Because I know he was just like, Dad, come on, Dad. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Man, he don't never, like, he always look at me like, bro, coming from you? Do you know your life? You know what I mean? Like, that's how he always, I'm like, nah, nah, nah, you didn't even know me back

then. You feel me? But he done heard a lot of stories. Like, you know, just like me and Droll sit around and talk about it and then yeah uh my other uncles and aunties and my mama talk about how they had to deal with me you know what i'm saying so he's like how's you gonna come tell me anything i'm like nigga like this you know what i'm saying but that that's actually a part of a show that we remember me bussy uh uh and Tootie.

So that was a part of the show. But it was a real video, and we did actually, like, I think the camera people knew what was going on, but they didn't necessarily tell us. So when we walked up, we were kind of really, really kind of in shock a little bit for real. We knew we were coming to film we know that this was gonna be it you know uh i thought it was gonna be more so just like them using our cars and you know trying

to imitate a life today but i ain't a i ain't know y'all finna do all this you know so that was a real moment but you look like you was running off he was like i can't be nowhere around this yeah and man was one of the funny part i don't know if this is on the clip that was shown. One of the funny parts, the boozy look that wasn't saying, hey, you. Yeah, see, you've been hanging around a lot. Oh yeah, that's on there.

You're going to have to pay your dues. You know what I'm saying? But all these things, I feel like it's important. And I feel like I'm going to put, because we did a pilot episode, I'm going to put it at, because I think it's important. And I feel like I'm going to put the, because we did a pilot episode, I'm going to put it out. Because I think it's important, as I watch it again,

we sitting down and we are, as two black men, we are fellowshipping and collectively, as well as individually, dealing with raising our sons to be strong black men. And it's one part, man, where me and Boots are talking, and he just said straight up,

man, look, man, I don't want to see my son in prison. I don't want to go visit my son in no damn jail. I don't want to do that. And I'm like, man, I get it. I get it. And he's like, man, I want to take it down with him. I said, no, you can't take it down with him. You can't even take it down with him. I don't know.

But Bootsy said it, so it could mean anything. I was like, no, that ain't going to do it. And so just us feeding off of one another's wisdom and experience and using it to benefit how we deal with our our sons that's something that the rest of the world needs to see absolutely how do y'all deal with the like the significant others of because like i know damani has a baby now king the the baby shower went viral like what is like the parental check in the household what that means like that when they bring like their girlfriends home are you like no i stay out there being i don't i don't do that

i don't get into that like who they dating and whether that ain't my business you know what i'm saying i i that's one less thing for me to have to worry about i don't i don't really deal with that uh i just make sure that they they they they being respectful and that they being respected you know what i'm saying like that really and that's i mean that. You know what I'm saying? Like, that really, and that's, I mean, that's really all that matters to me. You know what I'm saying? That the respect level is there, that everybody being treated fairly, you know?

And after that, you know, whether the love lasts forever or whether it's only here for a period of time, as long as the respect has been there, that's all that's important to me. Let's get into the single right now. Let's go. Thank God.

Let's thank God and we appreciate your brothers for joining us. I got a radio show. Y'all ain't played no damn music. Where they gonna ever play some music?

Well, we appreciate your brothers for joining us. Right on, man. We appreciate y'all, man. And one more thing, man, because, you know, I just want to say, could y'all please

stop telling everybody, you know, exactly how much money I have could y'all please stop telling everybody, you know, exactly how much money I have. Y'all going to get me wrong. The coach put it out there. Everybody on TV. Tiny was live after the – She did. She was live.

The coach put that out there, too. But, hey, put the bills out there. Put the bills out there, too. Put the bills out there. You send me a financial breakdown, I got you. For real? I got you. Send me a breakdown.

When we get more music, Dro, what's next? PSC, Dro Soho, Tip Soho? We got some. I'm going to snag a couple of records that Dro and Tip got together and that joint project going to be there. The PSC got a project coming out with DJ Drama. You feel me? Still in the streets.

And Dro and Zaytoven got a project coming out called 10 Piece Hot Man. Make sure you bring your blue cheese. So all of that's on the streets. And Drew and Zaytoven got a project coming out called 10-Piece Hotman. Make sure you bring your blue cheese. So all of that's on the way. Word. Well, it's T.I.'s young Drew. It's The Breakfast Club. Good morning. You did.

Wake that ass up. In the morning. The Breakfast Club.