The Breakfast Club - INTERVIEW: Tika Sumpter Talks Sonic, Tyler Perry's Influence, Interracial Marriage + More

Episode Date: December 5, 2024

The Breakfast Club Sits Down With Tika Sumpter To Discuss Sonic, Tyler Perry's Influence, Interracial Marriage. Listen For More!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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It's always queens get the money when she's here. Ladies and gentlemen, Tika Sumter. Welcome. Thank you. Good morning, Tika. How are you feeling? I love your show, One, and I'm happy to be back. I'm good. How are you guys? Bless Black and Holly Faber. Good, good. Happy to see you. Good morning, Tika. How are you feeling? I love your show, one, and I'm happy to be back. I'm good. How are you guys? Bless Black and Holly family.

Good, good, good. Happy to see you. Good. I didn't know your real name was Euphemia. Yeah, it's Euphemia. It's a Greek goddess. She was a martyr, and my dad named me that. Okay.

Yeah. So La Tika, La Tique is where they get Tika from? Yes, Euphemia La Tique. My grandma somehow figured out Tique. It's like a Tiki bird, a black Tiki bird in Florida., Euphemia litique. My grandma somehow figured out tika. It's like a tiki bird, a black tiki bird in Florida. So Euphemia litique, but in school, I would be like, they'd be like, Euphemia.

I'd be like, just tika, just tika. When did you learn what Euphemia met? Euphemia? Euphemia. Well, I looked it up because I was like, what is that? And oh, and I met some like Greek people and they were like, Euphemia, that's Greek. And I was like, oh, okay, cool.

And I looked it up and I was like, oh, my dad kind of thought of me as this beautiful human being. He saw the future. What that do for your confidence back then? Nothing because I thought it was a terrible name and it was too big for me. And I'm like, I don't know what this is.

You know, you're in Queens and you're like, and the teacher's like, Oofamia, Oofanuba. Like you're like, oh God, just call me Tika. So it did nothing until now, until like my older age. It all worked out. That's right. And how'd you get into acting coming from Queens?

Like what was the acting bug? Oh my gosh, it's crazy. Cause you don't see anybody. I mean, my sisters actually were dancers, like when they danced in videos back in the day and like Kid and Play, like MC Light, all that stuff. So I would like saw pictures, like I stole pictures from them and took them to school and was like, she's dating this person, you know, or but so I saw it from afar.

But I didn't know that I can actually do it. Honestly, I used to love watching cartoons and things like that I only knew I could do it when I went to Long Island And I heard of this woman named Mariah Carey who's from Huntington, and I was like oh, that's interesting And so I started going on the LiRR Long Island railroad to New York and taking classes But I didn't know that I can do it. I just saw The TV and I was like this is a job like you know you don't know that I can do it. I just saw the TV and I was like, is this a job? Like, you know, you don't know it until you can see somebody.

Yeah, or you see somebody else who's actually doing it, you know? And your parents believed back then because, I mean, they had to take you, right? My parents? No, my mom didn't know what the hell I was doing. OK. Where she think you were going to? Because I used to work at a movie theater, so I had my own money to do it and take classes. But she trusted me. I was a very trusting child because my siblings made

all the mistakes. And she was like, OK. I mean, you're euphemia. You have to live up to that. Exactly. And so I would go to New York and on the weekends take classes. And it wasn't till I moved to New York to go to weekends take classes and and it wasn't till I

Moved to New York to go to Marymount Manhattan College. I couldn't afford it. It was too expensive I don't know why I chose a private college And I told my mom that I was leaving and I'm gonna try acting and she was like what is first of all Where's your 401k? Like, you know, I grew up in that kind of environment My mom was a corrections officer at Rikers. So, you know, she's like, what's the plan? Because we don't know anybody who acts, who's making any money. Yeah.

I love this fact, you used to, oh, I'm sorry, go ahead. No, I was gonna ask you, when do you feel like you, like, your breakout moment, when do you feel like you actually made it, the role? I feel like there are many different breakout moments for different people, right? And I remember quitting my job in New York. I worked at a private members club and I was just done.

Like I was done with people being inconsiderate and entitled and talking to me sideways. I literally walked out, like just, I didn't tell anybody. I just left and I'm like crying down the street, New York moment and the lady's like, are you okay? I'm like, I'm fine, you know? In New York, somebody actually stopped to see if he was okay. Somebody stopped.

It was a white lady. It must have looked real bad. It was like, okay, all right. You must have looked that bad. You're like, something's wrong with her. Damn. It was some white lady. She was like, are you okay?

And I was like, I'll be okay. You know? And you know, I auditioned for this show called One Life to Live at the time. And I, you know, my ex at the time was like, look, how about you go for your dream? This is the first time I've ever felt like I've had like a fall, somebody to fall back on.

And he, I was like, go for my dream. He's like, yeah, I'll take care of everything. You go for your dream, but that only lasted a week. Cause then I booked a job. I was like, oh. I can take care of you for one week. After that back to reality. No, no, no, it only lasted a week

because I booked a job. Oh, you booked a job. Okay, okay, okay. Okay. I'll do that for seven days. Damn. Yeah, you know, yeah. So I booked one life to live

and after that I never had to waitress or do any of those things ever again. I love that you worked at a movie theater. You know, when you think back on your life, you look at all of these different moments that kind of gave you signs. Did that give you a sign back then? Yeah, it was the closest thing I had to, like,

what I wanted my reality to be. And so, yeah, I worked at a movie theater for a while. It was United Artists. It's not, and it's no longer around, but I would get my mom some free movies. I'd give her free candy and popcorn and all that stuff. So yeah, it was one of those things where I was, that was the closest I ever got to what I wanted to be. Yeah, I know that's right.

You played Michelle Obama a few years ago. I did. How was that? Did you get to pick her up? Brain at all? I didn't, I didn't. Um, I, we got the okay to do it, because we definitely didn't want to step on anybody's toes.

But it was just from the point of view of before she became Michelle, like their first date. And so it was something that I produced, and we took to Sundance, and we sold it to Miramax at the time. And it worked out. And my friend Richard Taney wrote the script and I got to work with my friend Parker Sawyers. So it was really fun to do and I feel that project

like was very close to my heart. Did it come out before or after becoming her book? I don't remember. Way after, before. Before, okay, gotcha, gotcha. Before, before, before. Damn, you didn't have nothing to work on. Well yeah, he had wrote his books already,

but she also, her brother wrote a book. So I got to understand the inside of who she was before she became the Michelle Obama. And so that was more fun for me because I wasn't trying to replicate who she is now. I had to kind of get an idea of who she was before that. And she was his boss. So their first date was definitely like, you know,

it was walking the line. You get canceled for that today. Well, where else do you meet your person? Not your boss though, can't date your boss. Why? You out of here, in the workplace? Oh, human resources all day long. Well maybe because it's a double standard,

maybe it's different when it's a woman and a guy. I just feel like where do you meet your significant other nowadays? Like nobody goes to bars. I'm with you. Nowadays, it's a woman and a guy. I just feel like where do you meet your significant other nowadays? Like nobody goes to bars. I'm with you. Nowadays it's the toughest thing. Like you can't, I'm not gonna say you're not allowed to. How would you know?

Because it's turning human man between us. You don't watch the human resource video that they make you watch every week, you got somebody else do it for you. Oh yeah, oh yeah. You got somebody else do it for you. See, I can tell you don't watch it. And I met my man in a bar.

I did meet my guy in the bar, yes. Yeah, I met guys in bars, but I'm just saying, that's when you used to go out, you know? But yeah, most of it was at work, so for me too. Now tell us about the Sonic the Hedgehog. And was that difficult? That third installment. Because you're not, well, it is a person,

but it's not a person, it's animation, so. Yeah, I mean, it's incredible what they do and how they make them look. The first one was just like a golf tennis ball. I was like connecting with the second Sonic 2. It was these huge 3D cutouts of like me talk us talking to Sonic and Tails and all that stuff. And then the third one was like these huge puppeteers

who actually had like talking to us as their voice, as Idris and Keanu and whoever else. And so yeah, it grew as the budget grew. Are they in the same room or is it like is it individually? No, they're in the same room. Okay. They're in the same room. Not the voiceover part.

Like they do their part separately like Ben Schwartz who does Sonic and all that stuff. They do it in a booth. But for us to make it real, they bring these puppeteers and we're like, I love you Sonic, or Knuckles is like, I don't understand, that kind of thing. And so yeah, we get to act across from real actors. Do you like it?

I love it. It sounds weird, you're talking to a Muppet, and one time you're talking to a tennis ball. I know, but it's like using your imagination, right? Like the closest thing to creativity is play. So I mean, that's what you get to, I got to do it and I feel like I'm the coolest mom ever. Cause my daughter who's eight is like,

she saw like a, she saw it and she's like, thank you so much mom. And then all of her friends were like, you're Sonic's mom. So I feel like I have different street cred. Different street cred? She's eight now? She's eight years old. Time flies.

Time is not playing with none of us. Not at all. With or without you. With or without me. With or without you. Now when they first booked you for that, what made you say, I want to do this? Because this is totally different than what you've done before. What made you want to do that?

Well, honestly, they asked me to come read at like a huge Paramount table reading all the executives. Everybody was there. And, um, I was like, Do y'all want me to come read with you guys? That's awesome. And so then they offered me the job. I wanted to do it because I wanted to do something that my daughter can actually watch. I feel like everything I do that's like, she can't really watch it. How is it working with Jim Carrey? Oh my god.

Because he's Dr. Robotnik. Yes. Which nobody else could play that role better. And he plays two roles in this. He plays his own grandfather and then the grandson. And so he's in, first of all I grew up watching him in Living Color. Yeah, same. And so to see somebody who you look up to for so long,

the first one I was like, oh my god, Jim Carrey. And he's like, all right, let's talk about the script and all the things. And what do you think about this? And help write this joke. And I was like, what? Me? I can't help with anything.

You write that. But it was really cool that he kind of embraced us. And he's just super normal. Now it's like, oh, that's Jim, you know. I love that. Yeah, it was awesome. It was awesome, a dream come true. I wonder when you have yourself

and then you have stars that have magnitude like Keanu and Jim, do they need to be seen? Clearly not, right? Do y'all need to be seen? What do you mean? In what way? Like as far as being on the screen, it's your voices, but it's not y'all acting.

Oh them, yeah. I mean, you see Jim on the screen, you see what he does. I think with Keanu and Idris, you know their voices. So you don't have to. People are excited that it's Keanu and Idris, you know. But also, you know, the characters that they're playing are super iconic. So it's like, you know, it's great that we have them.

We love them, but also like the characters are, the gamers are like, we're down for the ride. But do you tell people, is you, like if somebody be like, oh, I love that character, you be like, you know that's me. But you see me. I'm not, no, I'm not a cartoon. I ain't never seen it. No.

So. I obviously. I knew you were too many. He's like. Because you was talking like you was a voice actor, so I never seen. No, no, I'm talking to it. No. I'll be a slave. Because you was talking like you were the voice actor. No, no, I'm talking to the characters on screen, like Sonic and Tails and Knuckles. Because Sonic is not real.

He the only one that's not real. Not real. You thought he was real? I'm real. Who, Sonic and Knuckles? He knew Sonic wasn't real. No, I know Sonic and Knuckles is not real. OK.

Oh, you just thought the whole movie was animated. I thought the whole thing was animated. OK. No, no, no, no. It's live action. Like, you know, James Morrison and me and, you know, other people are real. Jim Carrey is real. Yeah, so it's real.

Ben Schwartz. Ben Schwartz is a real. You just confused the hell out of him right now. I know. He was like, oh, it's not a cartoon? I never got into the Sonic thing. Actually, what caught me was the trailer for Knuckles one time, but that was on TV.

Yeah, that was a series. Yeah. They had Knuckles give you Bucky in the trailer. That's how you're a magician. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. You were talking earlier that your mom just allowed you to go, right?

Yeah. Now, is your son or daughter? Daughter. If your daughter get older, would you let her just go and say go ahead? Nope. These days? I mean, it's hard. I do, like, we went like camping one

and she's like, I just want to go. Camping? We did, we went camping. The Queens is out of you now. No, really? What's wrong with camping? But we went to like auto camp. It was like a glamping.

Okay. Yeah, it's like in a community. She's like, I want to walk over. She's very independent I think it's really important to allow your child to have some access to independence because I feel like or you can be kind of clobbering them and like You know, I feel like I used to when I was in Queens I would go down the block until the lights turn and it was like Tika come home and I just felt like I That's how you learn.

That's how you learn how to fight for yourself. I remember getting jumped by my two friends. You know, like. Damn, they weren't your friends. No, but obviously, I found out that day. They're like, Tika, come over here. I'm like, what? Yeah.

Yeah. Hold on. You got hit with the come outside, we not going to jump you? Come, come. And she went away. Come over. These little Tikas like, come and just go into somebody's house. The girls are like, y'all gonna jump you? What? What? Come on, these little chicas like,

coming to somebody's house, the girls are like, y'all gonna fight. What? You're wild. What did you do? I didn't do, I was a very sweet child. I did not do anything. I think they just wanted to,

I don't know why they wanted to fight me. Wow. Did you win or lose? You gotta jump. Let me tell you, my adrenaline, when they told me the girl, I wish I could say her name, because I remember, that's how impacted I was. I I'm gonna lose. I got, let me tell you, my adrenaline, when they told me the girl, I wish I could say her name because I remember, that's how impacted I was.

I remember everybody's name. And I was like, I'm gonna fight her. And she was big. And my- You mean big, like big back or like diesel? Big back. Big back, okay. Big back.

And I was like, my adrenaline shot to my heart. And I remember taking her hand hand there was a thorn bush Swinging her throwing her in the thorn bush and she being like I don't want to fight you I was like what like it was a weird it was like I was in a dream And I don't know where the power came from I'm like wasn't an angel cuz it was not me. It couldn't have been me Yeah, and I I walked away alive It was Euphemia. It was Euphemia? Yes. Yo, yes, that's you. You know? Yeah, and I walked away alive. Why did they say you got jumped?

Well, they were all around me. So it was like, it was a setup, more of a setup. But they didn't actually. They didn't jump me. They were about to when she threw the girl in the stone bowl. She was like, nah. One on one. But my friends were around me, and I was like,

I don't understand. That's smart, though. You took the biggest one out first. So once they see that, everybody else will. They'll be like, nah, I don't wanna buy it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You tell your daughter those stories? She asked me the other day, she asked me the other day,

she's like, cause I- Have you ever fought a big back? No, she didn't ask me that. No, she did ask me the other day, mom, have you ever been drunk? And I was like- What is she watching? No, because my daughter asks all the questions.

I'm just open with my child I really am and not in a way where it's like inappropriate but like I was drinking a beer at home and one night and We were talking she's like have you ever been drunk and I was like My husband's like yes, she has He tells her the story and she's like wow, we want to know the story now But we're secret driving I've been drunk many times. You don't wanna know. That was my past life.

It's funny though, cause you talk about how you came up, but it's like, yo, we can't do that with our kids nowadays. I don't feel comfortable just letting my kids just go out in Rome. I mean, you know that lady who got arrested for letting her 10 year old walk, he was walking to the store.

Did y'all hear about that story? The mile, right? He walked a mile, he's 10 store and that was in the south too whatever he walked nothing he walked to the store and they came to arrest her to say he was in somebody called the cops he was in danger and you know most states have that law there's like only four that don't like didn't even know that yeah yeah it's like a child endangerment or something like that but like I but like

I'm like you can't even let your child walk to a store which is crazy. That's why parents should be in jail basically. Yeah absolutely. I went to the bodega so many times. Oh my gosh and astral credit. Gone all day until the street lights come on. Yeah exactly exactly. Now you worked with Tyler Parry on a few projects. I did. And I noticed that you know a lot of actors that work with him say that that was the first time that they ever got paid what they were worth. Was that the same for you? I'm lucky in this industry.

For the jobs that I have had, I've been paid very well. And he has continued the process for me. And so I feel super grateful because even now, I was trying to get a project made for five years and I had it with different production companies and I co-wrote something with a friend of mine who's a writer on P Valley and I brought it to him and within days he calls me, he's like, I'll direct it.

This is the first time he's ever directed something that he didn't write. And he's like, you produce it for, like you really go out and produce it, which I love. He's like, so I'm co-writing, producing, and starring in a film that Amazon, Sisters in Italy, and Amazon bought it. And so we're finishing it in Italy in April.

So, and he said yes in June, July, we started in September. Congratulations. Ty was a great dude, man. I don't think he really gets the flowers with the credit that he deserves. I think he gets it and he gets in September. Congratulations. Tyler's a great dude, man. I don't think he really gets the flowers or the credit that he deserves. I think he gets it and he gets it from the people that matter to him. You know, I think, you know, there's obviously

a group of people who don't like what he does, but you don't have to watch it. You said something very important. You said the people that matter to him. If more of us could embrace that, like just caring about the opinions of people that actually matter to us and don't care about the opinions of people who don't matter to us, man.

That's it. My word this year was like, do not chase my words. I'm not gonna chase after anything that is not for me or nor am I gonna chase people that I'm like begging you to come see me because there are so many people who see me and love what I do and follow what I do and say it every day, you know, when I'm in the airport

or whatever and I'm like, oh my God. So just go after the people who are going after you. That's it. I mean, you're not gonna get everybody and you're not gonna always get the, you know, the Oscar people who deem that important. Do you know, remember the time at the Oscars where they went on the street to everyday people

and they're like, do you know this movie? Do you know this movie? They're like, no, nope, nope, no. Most people don't know those movies. Not that they don't matter, but the masses go and look at a lot of things that YouTubers do, other people do. And so, not that they can't live in the same world,

but that's not all that matters. That's why I don't get mad when I'm watching the Oscars and like, let's say Angela Bassett doesn't win for, or was it Black Panther 2? I didn't see the other movies. So I don't know she got Jim to die. Right, you can't have this voice of like, well they deserve, it's like,

well did you see everything else, Shu? Although she does, I mean I think what's love got to do with it got robbed, but again, I don't even know the other movies that were Yeah, just said the same thing that says she got around for that one Speaking of going after people who go for you. Yeah, that's, your husband, on the set of The Have and Have Not. Who approached who? Honestly, I did.

I shot my shot, which I usually do in my life anyway, but he was just making me laugh and it was a long day. And I honestly, I said, I will not date any more actors. Like I was like, no more, I'm done, I'm finished. And then I gave him my number and I was like, call me like if you guys go out. And he didn't. And he's like, no, there's no way you're not married.

And I was like, no, there is a way. And so yeah, we went out one night and then that was history. Was he really making you laugh or you just thought he was cute? So you just giggled. I thought he was cute, I thought he was cute and then I was like, you know what, no, that's when I was like, I'm not doing this.

And then he really did, he's really funny, like dry humor and I love to laugh and so that's actually what really did attract me. Why'd you say you're not doing this though? Yeah, that's what I was doing. Not doing it anymore. I've dated, I'm a quiet dater and I love that about my life

I keep things very close to the chest and I've dated enough people in our industry where I'm like, I'm good You know Drake Drake no But I hosted a show when I first came up called best friends date and he was on it He was like the celebrity guy on it and his I called him Aubrey during that time. So that's probably why When you Google it pops up Yes, and then you look on the screen it says right here. It's like she allegedly dated right now. No That's why I start trouble yeah, yeah, was it insulting when he said I can't you're not married or no way you're not married. No, it was like a it was a thing of like nobody like

You know nobody Asked you yet. Yeah, how could you be single? It was that kind of thing. There's no way that you are this fine. There's no way you're single. Right? You know. I was having fun, right? Right, right.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, but I was single. The previous actors that you had dated, were you working with them? Was Nick the first person that you were working with that you actually dated? No. No? No. Okay. This is why you said that earlier.

What else you supposed to meet people if you not? Oh, that's what I meant. That would make sense. Now it makes sense. Why would you even let me meet people? At the bar? That would make sense. Now it makes sense.

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and they said, this is fabulous. What would you do next July? And I said, well, living is a limitless subject matter. Listen to math and magic on the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Well, you know, during, you know, you're in your dressing rooms, not anything crazy, but he, he had my makeup on. Well, Tyler has like a strict, like you don't mess up my stuff over here, right? Because if y'all don't get along, my show must go on.

That's right. And so he went downstairs to go on set and his nose was brown. And Tyler's like, what black girl you've been kissing? He's like, he knows he literally knows. And I was like, oh, my God. And then he came. He called me. He's like, what knows, he literally knows. And I was like, oh my God, and then he came, he called me, he's like, what are you doing? What's happening? I was like, oh, you know, I don't know, we don't know.

Just hanging out. Tyler Perry said, we ain't got no blackface scenes and it was going on. What are these things? What you doing there? It's crazy, he called Tyler. Right, right, right. I was thinking, what's Shadley's things?

What's Shadley's thingsames? What's Shadley's Thames? What the hell? Okay. It's crazy. When I got pregnant, nobody knew that I was pregnant. I get a phone call, Tyler calls me. Are you pregnant? I was not even showing, nothing.

I just found out, like literally, I was probably two months pregnant or month, so I was something early. Yeah, he called me He's like, are you pregnant something in my spirit is saying that Jesus I was like and my mom didn't even know Nobody knew except me and Nick. It's crazy. So you can I did confirm it That was a Tiffany. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So who was that with with no, I don't my timelines are yeah Yeah, yeah, you have a child you're like, you know, it's all leverages running seven six eight I don't know. It was it was in the beginning though. So yeah, you know dr. Umar

First of all, Nick loves you. He brought your book. Dr. Umar, I don't think he knows. I know Dr. Umar. I love Dr. Umar. I think, look, I understand empowerment to our community. It's not like I haven't come from... I have a black mom, a black dad, I have black siblings.

I have a black child. I have a lot of blackness black dad, I have black siblings, I have a black child, like I have a lot of blackness in my life, I give back, I'm creating things for black people, so I'm like, I don't know what he wants me to do, and also. I don't know what he wants me to do. I'll give to his school, like what do you want? What you tell me? I don't know what he wants me to do. So I'll give to his school. Like, what do you want? What do you want to tell me?

Is it coming out of your money or that white man's money? I know. I'm like, it's all green, you know? When is the first time you heard a Dr. Umar video, and you were like, what the f-? Because you got to feel the way when you first hear it. I am so interested in, I am so interested when I hear people are like, black people need to keep it black. You know, like, interested when I hear people are like,

black people need to keep it black. It's like I'm always interested because I understand. I understand a communal sense. I understand I've dated many black men and I get it. It's like... It's a great thing, but I feel like, one, I know he would say people fall in love with who they fall in love with But also the percentage of black women to black men they we there's way more of us There's not one for and their people black most black men are married to black women

And so but also there's a lot of single black women who are the numbers don't match It's just like there's not enough of y'all. Where well, where else are they supposed to go? So who else so, figure that out. So what do you tell a father of four black daughters that possibly might be dating a white boy? What would you tell that father? Look to the right. Yeah.

None of my daughters. You think they go to private school? No. They go to all white schools. They go to all white schools. Yeah. They go to private school. So yeah, to all white schools. They're private schools. What would you tell that black man?

I mean, I would say, look, the first thing I did ask Nick, I'm like, have you dated anybody other than black people? Because I'm not your fetish. You know what I mean? He might have great taste. He does. He does.

I would just, I mean, you, if this person is a good person, just first of all, start there. Is he kind? Is he, you know, have him over, get to know him. Don't push it away like it's not going to happen. Because probably will. Because the adorna will rebel. Rebel. Like bring it in. Bring Dr. Umar to your house.

Dr. Umar is like the scarecrow of intellectual relations. You can hurry and tell him. What is Dr. Umar? Oh. But as much, when you push it away, that's when it's going to happen. Yeah. Don't put, just bring it in and allow your kids to talk to you.

You know, she sees the amazing black man you are. It doesn't mean that she doesn't value that. It's just, you like who you like at the moment, and it's moments in time, so. I wonder if those other brothers you were dealing with stepped up, did they ever, did they ever, because it seemed like Nick from the beginning knew. He knew.

Yeah, he knew. When you're making statements like, I can't believe you're not married, that's what's already on your mind. Oh my God. I want you to be my wife. Oh my God, yeah. I mean, I think people are,

I mean, you are where you are in life. you're either ready for more or you're not and I used to say I say to women all the time if you don't know where you stand you stand nowhere at all you know with somebody and so I knew and you're either afraid to ask the question or you're like where are we if you don't ask in that you don't you know where you are that's right nowhere right and so you know, and some people are ready, and then some people are not, and I was ready when I met Nick, and so was he. But the mother brothers weren't ready when they were dating.

They weren't ready, and that's okay though. As they lost. Yeah, it was. That's okay. It was, cause Nick got you. Nick proposed to you with a Peloton bike. How true is that? No!

What, on a Peloton bike? No, no, no. With one. He brought one. Let I tell it. Actually he proposed when I had the baby because we already did all the things like we had the baby. People always think like it took us a while to get married because that was

my choice. People are like he ain't marrying her. See that white man? You know I'm like that's not even it. It's me. We got together. I got pregnant. We bought a house. Like there was so many things happening. I was like, that's not even it, it's me. We got together, I got pregnant, we bought a house. There was so many things happening, I was like, slow down. You was keeping it black, I like it. Yeah.

I was those men who weren't ready for me. That's right. I was like, this is too much. And then he proposed around Christmas. He put the ring under my daughter and told me to pick her up and he had a note and he was down And I was like are you sure like I'm a lot He's like I am positive. I was like okay cool. So where did the peloton bike come in that he just bought me a peloton bike Okay, yeah, I've seen lot, like he proposed with a bike. He does these scavenger hunts during Christmas

and like he hides stuff and put, you know, he does all, he's thoughtful. Yeah. Where I'm like, what do you want for Christmas? You know, he's very thoughtful. Spontaneous. And I'm gonna be honest with you, you got a very black name.

If it's Tika Sumter James. No, it's Euphemia Sumter Oh, so it's no, no, it's his his name is Nicholas Muscarella Nicholas James Muscarella You want to be me a something Muscarella Fit on like most of my when I travel they're like the name doesn't fit Definitely not on test when you were a kid. No.

What did your family think when they first met them? And what did they think? Cause they're from Queens. I know family back then, parents back then were a little racist. No, well, my mom, my mom, my, you know, my dad passed away when I was 13, unfortunately. And my mom remarried a white guy actually.

And so I, when she first brought him, I never saw, I was like, what the hell is this? I was scared. I didn't know, I was around black people all the time. And I was like, who is this? I didn't understand. He's like, you wanna go get ice cream? I'm like, what?

What? You're scaring me. And so- You're throwing me in the back of the police cream? I'm like, what? Like you're scaring me. And so- You're throwing me in the back of the police car? I had that? Like I just- I didn't know. So my mom was fine with it.

My mom got a divorce and she went back and she married a black man who's amazing and they're in a great relationship. I saw Dr. Umar frown and smile. I know. I'm like, what the fuck? She's like. She said, so your mama dated white

and you dated white too. Yo. It's like, no Dr. dated white and you dated white. It's like, no, Dr. Umar, she went back. So she was fine with it. We were fine with it. I mean, it's nobody that, you know, I think everybody was like, you know, what, you know, what is this and is he serious and what does he want and all that stuff. But yeah, they were, they were definitely supportive. This might be a stupid question,

but is there anything you learned on Mixtish that you bring into your life now? Um, you know, I try not to bring any baggage that I've had onto my daughter, because her experience is going to be so different than mine in a lot of different ways. Like, I'll be... we homeschool our daughter now. We took her out of our private school and um, she, we read more than ever.

We do more math than ever, but we've been reading these civil rights, you know, the actually Nick reads them to her and she's like, I love history, mom. And she's like, how could somebody not let people sit where they want to sit? And one day she came home when she was in school. She's like, mom, you know Martin Luther King Jr., right? I was like, yeah. She's like, no, she thinks you know him. Yeah.

I don't know. One day she did. One day she knows. You do know him, right? She thinks you knew him, knew him. She's like, that man who shot him looked like dad. Damn. Right.

Damn. Right. Damn. I was like, uh, uh, well, calm down. Calm down. She's like, he looked like dad. I was like, well, hey. You know, kids are the darnest things. Jesus Christ.

Damn, how did y'all explain that to her? I was like, you know, I was like, people were crazy. I was like, and yeah, I mean, that's what happened. And we talked to our child how we want to give her, for me, I remember, you know, you grew up like, you know, kids aren't meant to talk or just sit there and be quiet. But I think for me, what I struggled with was not understanding my own emotions as I got older. Not being able to communicate with a guy and tell him what

I actually want, because I'm like, what do I feel? What do I feel? And I want my daughter to be able to talk to me. And I want my own emotions as I got older. Yeah. Not being able to communicate with a guy and tell him what I actually want, because I'm like, what do I feel? What do I feel? And I want my daughter to be able to express herself. And so I don't think she talks back to me. She just asks a lot of questions. And she's like, well, I need to understand why this is the way it is or all the things. And so I'm giving her the tools to be able to speak up for herself.

And you say you want your kid to have a voice Then you got to give him a voice to half and so that's how I feel my daughter So we talk about a lot. I love we just having that conversation earlier about emotions You know, they love to say women are more emotional than men, which I don't believe and I believe if you are a man It doesn't know how to you know properly express your emotions. There's work you can go do on yourself Oh my god for sure. And that's what I mean, I started on a man that doesn't know how to properly express your emotions. There's work you can go do on yourself. Oh my God, for sure. And that's what I mean.

I started Adventures of Curiosity Cove, which is a kids podcast that maybe your house is you're not my son is 12. He's 12. So he wouldn't. But it's about emotional intelligence. And it's about we created all these stories for kids because Ella used to be like, tell us this. Tell me a story. Tell me a story. And now she's like, can created all these stories for kids because Ella used to be like, tell me a story, tell me a story, and now she's like, can you put on my podcast while she's in the bath?

But it's these stories that help kids. She is living the damn life. She in a tub, can you cut on my, dang, I know that's right, Ella. Yes, yes, yes, she is, and it's these stories for kids that help them with understanding social, emotional intelligence, and so I'm excited about that.

Yeah. Yeah. Absolutely. Hold on, she got a children's book coming out too called I Got It From My Mama. I Got It From My Mama. I Got It From My Mama, yeah, it comes out next year around Moms' Day, Mother's Day, and you can pre-order it now.

But it's really about the idea of old school parenting mixed with new school parenting, and when gentle parenting is not so gentle. And so it's this idea of like this little girl being like, I got this from my mama, I got this and it shows all these things like I love how she does her hair and I try and she sprays this perfume and then I spray my dream. All these things she's gotten from her mom. Her mom one day snaps at her and she goes to school and she ends up snapping at somebody like her mom and her mom is basically like where'd you get that from and she's like I got it from you mama

and so it's the idea of mirroring what we see and it's okay as long as you repair it and so the mom basically takes responsibility and apologizes to her child for snapping and I think for me like even to this day my mom did something to my daughter and she's like, I ain't apologizing. And I'm like, mom, it's okay. It doesn't take anything from you to just apologize. Like, because you're teaching your child what that means. You know what I mean?

Like when you're all, I'm not apologizing. You're a kid. They're growing up thinking they don't need to, it's a cycle of, you know, chaos. You have to break yours. You're it's a cycle of you know chaos to break that yes And so for me, it's mere It's it's the understanding of newness and and what that means in parenting and so it's called I got it for my mama So I hope you pre-order anything definitely don't pre-order that what the greatest piece of advice you got from your mom oh Man, I don't know if I got the advice

but I saw the advice and my mom is super resilient and I see her I saw her struggle a lot and She never gave up. She knew she had my mouths to feed and she knew that she had to work really hard And so for me, I feel like the biggest thing a kid could have is resilience because if you have that I feel like you really can you're not so easy to give up on everything, you know And I think nowadays even for my own daughter, teaching her like, girl, no, you're gonna do this. We made her stay in piano when she didn't wanna do it, and now she's like, she goes downstairs by herself, and she just plays the piano and all that stuff,

and I'm like, no, you gotta follow through. And so for me, it's never given up. Like, my mom never gave up on us, and she never gave up on herself. I saw you post this on Instagram once, and I thought it was good. You said, would you speak to your best friend the way you speak to yourself?

Oh my gosh. I feel like, and I'm guilty of this. The way we, we're so hard on ourselves nowadays and especially the hustle culture and like, you know, Jess is doing this and Envy's doing that and you have all these podcasts, like you're doing, we look at all these people and thinking, I'm not doing enough or I'm not enough

or I'm not smart enough to do what they do or it's like, do what you do and speak to yourself. I would never, Jess, if we were best friends, I wouldn't be like, you know, I wouldn't be mean to you, right, or if you were talking about yourself crazy, I'd be like, are you crazy? You're amazing. And then we go home and we're like,

beating ourselves up daily. And it's like, you're literally whipping your own self, you know, into a frenzy. And so I just feel like talk to yourself how you would talk to your best friend. I got a homegirl named Rachel. She would, if she heard me talking crazy about myself, she'd be like, don't talk to my friend like that.

That's right. That's right. I agree with Rachel. Yeah. Yeah. Rachel and Dr. Umar. They start doing some research. We mean you agree with that. No, he'd probably be like, I'd love to have a conversation with him.

The first question is, Dr. Umar, so you read your black daughter, silver, right? How dare you let a white men teach her her rights. We both do. We both do. I love it. Oh, Lord. Dr. Umar can come after me.

Yes. You want more kids? I don't know. I don't know if that's in the cards for me. I'm older now. And we'll see what happens. My daughter wants a, she wants either a dog or a, she does want a sister. But we'll see what happens my daughter wants a she wants either a dog or a she does want a sister, but we'll see

I do Check out Sonic the Hedgehog 3 in theaters on the 20th of this month, and thank you for joining us Thank you so much you guys do a great job you and Nick gotta come up here together one day. I think you That'd be amazing Actually him and dr. Umar might be best friend Nick can he somehow becomes best friends with people you would never think he All the blacks all the blacks Wait, we were at a club in Atlanta one time, this is before we were together, and he's sitting there, you know, he has this drink, it's full of black people.

Not one, it was probably one other white, and it was his friend who came. And he's comfy, and I'm like, hey, you good? He's like, yeah, what, what? And I'm like, oh, no, he is comfortable. It doesn't matter who you are. He's very comfortable. So dr Umar you me and him for lunch, please Oh, your mama was with a white guy and she left the white guy for a black guy and you want to meet Dr. Uma? What's going on?

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