The Breakfast Club - INTERVIEW: Tiny & Zonnique Talk TV One’s ‘Uncensored’, Xscape, Motherhood, 50 Cent, Biggie + More

Episode Date: March 26, 2026

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A new episode of Uncensored is out right now. And boy, oh, boy, Tiny's giving it all, boy. That was so good, but we're going to talk about it. We have Tiny Anzoneke here. Welcome, ladies. Thank you. I'm not say Zani. That's my girl.

Zani, got it say Zani? It's okay. I'm sorry Zani. It's okay. Welcome, ladies. How are you feeling? Pretty good. How are you guys doing?

Blush, Black and Holly favorite. Was that episode hard to do? No, it was why you said that? No, it was good. It was good. My daughter, she interviewed me, so it was real natural, real good. Did you know everything before that? Or some of those questions and answers?

Like, wow. So I pretty much know everything about her. call her like my source. I ask her all about her life all the time. I'm like, baby, what was going on in the 90s? Like, what, Tupac was doing? What this was going to? I said like that. She was around these people. So it's just like, what was going on, girl? So I felt like I definitely knew everything I was asking. There was so many things that I've learned and I guess was revealed. Why was this the time to do it now? I mean, it's been so long. I have never told my story. I mean, I still got a lot more to tell. I mean, I really need to, you know,

do like a bunny and cloud type movie, but, you know, with my husband. But it's so much to tell, but I got a lot of that out in the hour long show. There was so much that, you know, I didn't know. I thought I knew everything. You hear all the stories over and over and over again. And I'll just start from the Biggie situation, right? When Biggie did that verse, which was disrespectful, I didn't know Biggie was pretty much chasing y'all to apologize from club to club but like I just want to apologize to y'all. Yeah, he really was and I mean the girls just wasn't having it. He's like, Jermaine was like, yeah, he's out at the show and he's like, no, he can't come in here.

So, you know, yeah, he was, but it was cool, you know, to get to speak to him before, you know, he passed. And that was the other thing that same night. Yeah, the night he apologized finally to Tani. The night he finally accepted to take his apology and go sit with him and talk to him was also the night that he passed. passed away, which was, which is correct. I never knew that at all. So how was that experience? Break that down, because that was the first time y'all spoke since then.

Yeah, and when they came over and they told us, because me and Candy was the only one at the party, Ken was like, I'm not going over there and talk to his ass. And I was like, I'm going to go over there. I'm going to go see what he's talking about. So I went over there, you know, he was really nice, and he apologized. He told me, I'm, you know, y'all are beautiful,

and, you know, I'm, I'm ugly in my damn cell. You know what I'm saying? And I ain't had no business. You know, he was just being nice and he was talking. Did you curse him out? No, not at all. I didn't. He didn't even, he didn't leave any room for me to curse him out.

For real. Did you go back over to the section and tell Candy like, yo, he was actually cool? Yeah, I did. And then, you know, right after that we left, she was like, oh, she was like, cool. But after that, when he passed, when we heard like, oh, the shooting happened and, you know, she was like, dang, I wish I, I kind of wish I would have said. We went over there, you know. When he was apologizing and having a conversation with you, was there any conversations about y'all working together potentially at all?

No, we didn't go that far. It didn't get that far. He just was basically telling us he loved our work. He loved our music. You know, he did give us a props, you know. When you look at your whole journey, right, Tanya, from escape to now, what part of your story do you feel people have gotten completely well? You said what part of my story?

People have gotten completely wrong. You know, I don't know. I don't really know what they got, because they say so much, you know what I'm saying? I really don't give it down. You know what I'm saying? Not that much, you know. I don't know.

Yeah, good. You know, great. Do you say. I really don't care, you know, so much because it's so much being said, you know what I'm saying. So I don't really know what part of the story they feel, they have or they know, honestly, because I am really keeping up with it.

Do you feel like uncensored finally gave you the chance to correct the narrative about who you are? Being that some people got so many different stories? Well, I think it definitely gave me a chance to let them know who I am and give my story and my truth, you know what I'm saying, for them to hear it for me instead of, I guess, you know, guessing or, you know,

speaking or not knowing or talking or saying what somebody else may have said or what they think. You know what I'm saying? So they was able to get, hear it from me personally. And with the industry being so tough on you guys early on, how did y'all ever want your kids to be in this industry? Because they, damn, they beat y'all up.

They banned y'all from radio stations. Like, they did so much to y'all on a come up as a new group. Like, why would you even say, you know what, my kids could be in this crazy-ass industry? I honestly, they just fell into it. You know what I'm saying? I didn't, well, this one, I kind of pushed her a little bit, but I just seen her potential.

And I was just like, hey. And I kind of wanted to do a girl group anyway. I kind of felt like I kind of know what, you know, what a girl group needs to look like, what it needs to sound like. And I just was, you know, really wanted to focus in on that. I think, well, escape. Were we still together?

We wouldn't stay together, right? When would? Escape. It kind of broke up. So at that point, I'm like, yeah, let me make my own group. You know what I'm saying? And I seen my daughter had the potential And I just like, why not keep it in the family?

But the rest of the kids, they just kind of fell into it, you know? King was singing at first, you know what I'm saying? King got a little voice on him. I cannot imagine that. When he was little, he used to be singing. I was like, yeah, he needed to sing. And I thought he was going to be a singer and he'd start rapping. I'm like, what are you doing rapping?

Why are you rapping? He's like, no. I ain't trying to sing. I'm like, but you can sing, though. So, you know, he just, he, he wasn't trying to hear this singer stuff. I'm like, just sing us get all the girls. Like, yeah, no, not for me.

I wanted to ask you about when you and Candy wrote TLC, no scrubs, right? You guys weren't in the band. This was like, I think it's the first time y'all had this band. Why didn't y'all keep the single for yourself rather than writing it for TLC? Man, I'm going to be honest. I wanted to because I felt like this is, This is a hit record.

You knew what it was. Yeah, I knew it was a hit record. And I'm like, man, this is our, this is going to be our break, you know. And then we just had to put all that to the side and really realize it's TLC, though. Like, this would be our first big record on a placement on another group, somebody that's really big. And they have a big machine that's really supporters that's pushing them. So we just went on and, you know, the producers looking at us like, man, what? What are you trying to do?

Like, Shakespeare was like, man, please. So we're like, all right, go ahead, give it to them. Yeah. You still get paid off that record? You still see the residuals. I'm still living eating off that record. That record has transpired from, it has went from Aaron and Sharon. So many other different big artists have used, even, what's my girl?

The rapper girl, she used in, what's this? I can't, I'm gonna come up. I think a Glover, when you start moving like that. You know, the one in the 1900. And I'm trying to find her. She's big, too. She used it. We got paid off that.

Also, the peaked song she had. I'm gonna come up with it in a minute. I want you disrespectful, because y'all know, like, she's big. Are the checks still chunky, though? And the checks are still nice. And it gets bigger. They go down and then they get bigger. You know what I'm saying?

Because TLC and to go on tour, they're going to get even bigger. And is it true that y'all get all royalties from no pigeons? Because they took it without getting cleared? Yep, we gave no pigeons too. So that was the number one record. And I heard that y'all took 100% of the royalties published and everything in that record. Yeah, we did. I think we did.

I think we did. I know we're getting paid off of it for sure. Jesus. Is it ever for you? like when you're, I mean, I know you said you've heard all these stories from your mom already, but when you're watching her talking, like, you know, people are getting to learn her story. Is it surreal for you to watch people give your mom her flowers? I really just enjoy watching people give her her flowers.

I think that she's overly deserving of her flowers. And she also doesn't get them a lot. I think that she just recently, like, received a bunch of flowers. And I was like, baby, you've been supposed to receive in those flowers. But I'm extremely excited to see her. receive flowers every time that she does for sure. Did during the unscensit episode change how you see your mom in any way? I wouldn't say.

I want to say the nice answer, but no, I wouldn't say so. Me and my mom are best friends. We talk on a phone for hours. I'm her favorite child. She told me today King is her favorite child. I did not say that. Just put that in there. The ongoing battle of who's the favorite child.

All of my favorite at different times. So, yeah, I mean, I think that I just put her on the top pedestal, so. But she knows me like a book. She knows how to talk like me. She knows how to finish my sentence. You know, she knows me like a book. Y'all grew up together in essence. Yeah.

Like, you talked about, you know what I mean. Like, you were figuring a lot out with Johnny very young. And in documentary, you talk about, you know, how earlier days when you're on the road would escape, how you kind of regret it, kind of not being there a lot for your, older children. Like what are those conversations with you and Zanik now as you look back on that? Well, now she kind of, she understands a little more because she's a mom

herself. She sees like, you know, the difference and having to be gone and being trying to get back to your kids. She's like, dang, okay, I understand a little bit more now because she's doing the same thing with her kids. She's on the road. She's moving. She's, you know what I'm saying? Trying to keep the time in. But I could just say that even still, you know, we've had those gaps. We are so close. You know what I'm saying?

So it's like whatever happened then, we made up for it later on. And I actually heard you, Zanik, you sat down with Regenay. You was talking about that. You actually said that. Outtumab, we were like, yeah, you understand what your mom had to go through leaving y'all in such young ages to go and pursue her career. Because now you have your baby and you want to roll. How does that affect you?

because you and your daughter are close, like best friends. We were just talking about that. Like, I go crazy when I'd be away from my child for a long time. But I think that just having a kid just affecting me in the most way, like I'm a totally different person. I show so much more grace to my mom because I'm like, other than working and having a kid,

like wanting to play and have a kid, like I can't go outside like I used to. And my mama is, you know the best honey but she's a working honey her grandma name is honey she won't she won't be called grandma but she's always

you know still working and go on so it's like I don't have that I don't have those babysitters but you know they definitely help but it is me and a mom has just changed me in so many different ways I need to do grandparents is it true that grandparents treat the grandchildren differently than they treated you

absolutely I would say Really? Uh-huh, uh-huh And the fact that she has a kid that's I mean, her and my kid aren't that That far apart of age, Eris and Hunter So we always joke about like how different She is like with Ayers as opposed to like

Us and King like she's just so soft Now and oh Aris It's okay. It's like she talked to errors But back when I'm King Like oh we's getting it like It's a difference like she's you know I guess but as a now that I'm a parent I can understand like watching her

grow not only as a person, but as a parent as well. It's like she goes through different stages. Yeah, you know, you don't have no rule book, but King was bad as child. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I feel like we saw some of it. Yeah. I'm sure not as much as y'all did,

but we saw some of it on the world. He was something. Yeah, but he has so much personality when he was younger and talk about, you talk a lot about that as well. And you also talk a little bit about, like, blending families when you and Tip met each other and how it wasn't that easy at first.

Yeah, it wasn't. Yeah. Expound a little bit, just a little bit on it. Why do you think it wasn't that easy? Was it the other moms or? I mean, because yeah, you gotta, you gotta deal with the other moms. You gotta respect, you know, the boundaries at some point, you know, to some degree also. And then you gotta also run your house.

So it's, you know. But I didn't have, it was just, you know, in the beginning was issues, you know what I'm saying? Just trying to cope with, um, so it's, you know, I don't have, it was just trying to cope with, um, having a woman in the house where now this is what it is, you know. And we eventually got over that and everything was great, you know. Never any issues really with the kids so much. Just, you know, just trying to figure out placements and everything with the moms and everything. Yeah, we didn't have issues, but I'm sorry, I was just going to say we didn't really have issues,

but, like, I didn't really care for them at first. I'm just going to go ahead and put that out there. Like as a step, I mean, I was the oldest and I was like an only kid. And then I had to share all my stuff out of nowhere. And now my mom had just got me that game cute. And I had to share with Messiah and the money and they wanted to play all the time. I was like, oh, I don't know about this. For sure.

Yeah, we jailed really quick, though. You know, as a parent, you know, we all have like parental paranoia, right? Just the regular anxiety that comes up being a parent. Is that multiplied when your kids are in the spotlight? Oh, yes, yes, yes, yes. And not so much. I'm really worried about her, I mean, because she, you know, they grew up in it. They were young.

They started very young when it, in it. And, you know, I always, you know, told them, we got to learn the business, this and that. So they were kind of like, I put them through everything. They put, I took them through really artist development. But when it comes to, like, and so the money, his thing is very mental. You know what I'm saying? It's cool. He don't really go outside the box of being aggressive.

Lately he has. But that's very new to me. You know what I'm saying? But so, you know, I don't really, but it's just keen because he's on the, he's the edgy street and he's always, you know, and he raps about his life and it's real talk. But I don't like it so much.

Because, you know, to me I feel like it's a danger. in there. But don't it feel kind of like deja vu because of Tip? Yes. And I see Tip, I see Tip worked through it and he had those same kind of battles

but he worked through it. But in that process, he had a lot of shit that went on. You know what I'm saying? He had deaths. He had, you know, deaths around him. He had fights.

He had all kinds of stuff. Running from the police. All kinds of stuff. You know. But it wasn't online too, though. Huh. They said it wasn't online. It wasn't on social.

It wasn't online. Yes, exactly. So, you know, everything my kids do now is very, you know, it's called. Amplified. Yeah. We recently saw, you talk about Damani being, you know, edgy, King. We saw their responses with the whole 50 cent situation. And I heard Tia say how he didn't like to see them do that.

How did you feel when you saw Damani and King hopping online to defend you with 50 cent? Um, I, you know, I felt. that, you know, it was a, you know, a proud moment that they wanted to speak up for their mom. But, and I felt like the songs was really good, especially the money when he went in with the Miss Jackson. I was like, hey, what is this coming from? It's amazing.

So, but King, you know, my son, and he's very, he took a very personal, and he just was, like, going so far. And I kept calling King, take this now, take this. down right now. He was like, no, I can't, Mama. And I'm like, what? And I just couldn't get him to listen to me.

Like, he's like, no. I mean, I was like, listen, this child ain't had nothing to do with nothing. He said, and you didn't have nothing to do with nothing. So I was like, okay. Then I see something else. Can you please take the video down with a shirt on? He's like, no, I can't. So I couldn't get him to, he wasn't listening.

But I was texting him. calling him he was like yeah no you know I got this mom you just got to stay down because you know you were you were not you should not have been dragged in this you should not hear you was like you know I could have said I could have said something about you know I know he loves his grandmama but he didn't talk about my grandma so I didn't talk about his grandma so you know I was like okay I can't I can't control this kid well you are dragging into those things I that personally make you think.

And I really didn't give a damn. And you know what I'm saying? I'm just like, I had already told my assistant, I said, he's gonna bring me in this. I already told him that. And he was like, why you say that? I said, watch. And right after that.

Can you fix it with mama eyelash right there? I was gonna tell him, just give me the eyelash. Yeah. You could have let her friends a statement. Because it was a, make a man. He didn't have to rubbed you without a fit and friend. No.

Oh, Lord. That's what that was about. Internet, YouTube. The people are still watching us on YouTube. No, because she kept on. I still watching us. I think it was. Keep on.

You felt like it was a part of the game. Yeah, I already knew it was coming, you know. But, any cake. So I was expecting it. Nobody else I don't think was expecting it. So, yeah. And feeling like that, do you feel like 50 cent went too far? Or do you, is it like?

I mean, I feel like you should have kept the beef with the man you was dealing with you know what I'm saying why is you bringing his woman in to it because you are dealing with a man you're a man you're dealing with a man deal with the man you ain't got nothing to do with me I ain't got nothing to do this like who goes after the the woman that's crazy regardless of whatever you thought it's crazy you should be dealing with the man this y'all beef right okay yeah how did that feel for you when you see people come at your mother? You know what?

Just in general though. In general, no, I mean in general, it definitely makes me feel away a lot of times because I'm like chronically online, like I'm on there a lot. But like I've had times where I've spoken out and a lot of times I regret it. I'm just like I can't beat the whole internet. So I'm just like I'll comment here and there. I'm definitely going to hit him with a little comment and say like if you see, you'll see me in the comments. But I don't say much.

You know, I step back from, like, speaking out every time. Because I just feel like people, like, have just love to attack my mom. I don't know what that's about. But it happens so much. And it's like I'd rather just kind of stay out of it and just try not to feel no way. Because she don't never feel no way. Oh, yeah. I was going to ask, because you've been attacked since the group first came out.

Yeah. So how do you deal with that from then? Was it one of those things that just like, yeah, it is what it is? How do you not get it personal with it? I just don't. I mean, sometimes, like, I used to get on there and I say little stuff, you know, I felt like, you know, they were just totally off with it, you know what I'm saying? I might say, you know, fuck it, whatever, whatever.

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I might feel like a feel the way. And I'd be wanting to type and I'm typing stuff and they were like, don't say nothing. I'm like, what they say it's such a son by key? And, you know, I just. She typed paragraphs. I will. I will.

Then I have to erase it. Or I just say, I'm just not going to put it up because what doesn't, you know, why does it matter? You know, you give the people that knows the less, you know, why would I give them the most, you know what I'm saying, most attention or when I know they don't really know shit, you know what I'm saying? Now also, you know, during the doc, well, the episode, you talk about how you were the recognizable person of escape at first,

and you were the one that couldn't go to the mall, and you were the one that couldn't go out. Was there any jealousy back then about that because you were? I don't think so. I don't think so. Like, Candy, she loved the fact that she could go. places and nobody know her. She loved that and then because she was like,

I'm gonna stop going places with you because now they know who I am. She liked moving around and nobody know her and nobody and you know, Tasha was very recognizable as well so I don't think it was any jealousy up with that or not. You know what Tasha still don't speak, right?

Well, no, we don't speak. I still got a little for Tasha but we don't speak because I am You know, I'm over here. You know what I'm saying? So I just try to keep it clean. So on tour, y'all don't speak of nothing. When not go out?

Well, she's not on tour. She's not on tour. She's not with the group right now. She's not with the group. So we just, you know, I just, we parted ways. And I just, I don't want to go back and forth. I don't want to be, you know what I'm saying? It's just missing.

Can it be recognized out? Maybe. You know, and they say, never say never. earlier in the escape days right what i i noticed you talked about like how the sisters were uh lethasha and timica they were very in sync like couldn't make a decision individually they were always doing things together did you ever feel like it was like a strain on that like two against two yes it was definitely it was always it was a headache i ain't gonna lie you know because whether they were wrong or right to me and and not most of the time it was like

just Tamika going, she may know that it's not the right thing, but she's just like, oh, that's my sister. So, yeah, I'm going over here. Yeah. And I'm like, you know, like, it was a time when we had decided, Tasha was like, I'm going solo. And we had cat with Tameca and was like, hey, we're just going to go home without her.

We're going to go to Jermaine and we're going to tell Jermaine, this is what we're doing. You know what I'm saying? So we get to the meeting. Tasha's there. First of all, when she, when they got there, Me and Candy knew we was in trouble because they came in there with the same hair. They had a black hair with a streak of gray in their hair in different ways.

But they had the same hair. I said, oh, yeah. We got in that meeting, and we like, yeah, we're telling you man, yeah. So we're trying to go, she's going solo. We're trying to do the group with, you know, just as three. So he's like, yeah, y'all think y'all can do that? And Temeica was like, well, I don't think we're going to. can do it without her.

And we're like, looking at her like, what? How did this happen? You know what I'm saying? We were just, you know, she was like, yeah, I think we should wait on my sister. And Blasey, Blase, and we're like, Tamika, we just had this conversation. We had this whole meeting set up and you're going to come in here and say, you don't think we can go on without her. We were so just devastated, like disgusted, like how did she just flip on us?

But, you know, she got with her sister and, you know, they talked to her into, no, you know, just wait on your sister. It's your sister. You know what I'm saying? And that's what she did. So how did y'all did you? Dism. Well, we didn't kick her out unless, you know, clear that up.

We just separated. We parted ways because we couldn't, I guess, the business-wise, we could not work with, you know, how she wanted to work. She has her husband who basically does all her work. And, you know, the other girls and I didn't want to work with him because of past things that did not go well and were not up to par. So, you know, we had came up with, hey, we got to keep him out the business and we can get a new management.

But that still didn't work. You know what I'm saying? We tried that. And he, you know, it was still the manager. took to him. Like I said, he has to give the gap. Like, you know what I'm saying? He's a cool dude.

So they took to him. They were talking to him a lot. And even though they were the face, they were telling us we knew what was behind that. You know what I'm saying? So it's just like, it's just not working. And, you know, in order to,

for us, we just got to move home without you. You know what I'm saying? And it took, you know, it was a hard decision, but we had to make it. Where is Tasha and Tamika's relationship now? Like, I know they were trying to rekindle, a little bit or like where did they leave off with that? I mean, I don't really want to speak on where their relationship is

because I don't really know. I don't, I mean, I talk to Tamika all the time and I don't, she never really speaks about, you know, oh, she was with her sister or they was talking. So I don't know if it is much of a relationship. I don't know, you know. But possibly, could be. You said something earlier I thought was dope.

You said you got a lot more of your story to tell that you have to do like a Bonnie. and Clyde type thing with tip. And it's funny, right? Because I love that because it shows how y'all move as a unit always. Yeah. Is it even possible to tell your story without tip?

Because you got a lot of your own accomplishment. Yeah. I think it is possible to tell. But I don't know. Maybe not. Maybe not. Maybe not. Because, you know, he's a very big, intricate part of my story.

So probably not. How does it feel to see him with, a new hit record after all these years and no more hit record let him know like amazing and I mean to be honest like he has a whole album of that like the album is crazy like but he

won't stop making songs and he keeps making more big songs I'm like you are never going to be able to put however many songs on this album because you got a hundred great song and you keep

every day he's going back in he's making and he's making more sound. I'm like, you know, man, he was supposed to be making money. It ain't, it ain't going to make it. You keep making all these big old songs.

Like, yeah. Like, man, get out of here. Are y'all enjoying this moment more? Because, no reason I ask that,

because, you know, I don't know if people remember, there was a time with Tia was the biggest artist in the world, period. Did y'all enjoy that moment then? Are you enjoying it more now?

You're more present for it now. I think we're enjoying it more now because, you know, he's independent. And he's just doing everything his way. And back then it was just so much ripping and running, ripping and running. And now he's like, yeah, you know, he's very much in control of everything he's doing. Not to say that he wasn't then, but, you know, with the label, it kind of like, hey, they have you going.

So, you know, to see him do it without a label is amazing. I think it's a great accomplishment. How did he end up making you fall for him? Because at first, you did not like him. Like you said, it was young, he was getting on your nerves. He was just like, what does a little boy want? You know, and then you ended up going to a show. But what actually really made you fall for him?

He was sweet. He was nice. He was, you know, he was, you know, he was cool. He was, I liked the hoodness in him. I loved his talk. I loved his twain. His accent was very heavy. Like, he don't really have that accent.

I always say that, like, where's your accent? Where's the accent from? If you listen to his first album, versus now, like he's very worldly now. And, I mean, I get it because he's been all around the world, but I still love that accent that he had.

But, you know, he was cute. He was young, and he, I don't know, he just, he wouldn't stop, honestly. You know, he was really pressing. And I just kind of, when I, honestly, when I set a show, I was like, yo, these people like this guy. And they knew everywhere.

And the place, I don't know if you ever been to the bank, Bankhead bounce, but it's a, now it's called the bank. And you know, you might be in there, but it's huge. It was full of people, and they were singing everywhere. I didn't know one song. You never heard of him? I mean, I heard of him through, I had went and met with KP.

I don't know, y'all know, K.P. Yeah, and KP was like, I was playing him. So I went to go play him some records that I was writing this stuff. And he was like, hey, I got this kid, and I'm working on. and let you hear some of this stuff. And he played me some of the stuff. I was like, dope, you know what I'm saying? And then later I put the two together.

So, yeah, but I didn't know, I didn't know his music. What era was this? Who's this dope boys in the trap, panty popper number one, do it, baby, stick it, baby. That was that era? Yep, yep, yep. Okay, okay, okay. Yeah, and then you, he, you went from not liking him at all to him.

So you fall in for him, and then you said he didn't want you. the work and you being who you, you know, are and who you were at that time, you're like, nah, because I got responsibilities. I got my family. I take care, my mother and all of them. And he like, I'm going to do that for you. Yeah. But you let it happen, but then you say it kind of hurt you a little bit too.

Yeah, it wasn't the smartest thing. It was cool because he was showered me. He paid off my mama house. He'd get a lot of things. He gave, you know, I had cars. I had whatever I wanted. But, you know, all that came with a price, you know what I'm saying? It's like, okay, because now when they want to go do whatever they want to do,

you just stuck here, like, okay, and then you don't have nowhere to go. You just got to be there when they get back. Like, I ain't like that. I was like, no, this ain't for me. This ain't who I am. I'm used to running things, getting up moving when I want to, like, because I make my own money, you know. So I had to, I had to real back, you know, get.

back into who I am, you know what I'm saying? And going on, because, you know, and that broke us up. He was like, yeah, you're going to do that? I can't have it. Like, well, forget it. I'm going, you know, but it didn't work out. Right. It had to come back.

But then when I came back, I was still like, yeah, I'm still going to work on something. I get to, I can get me some money. Right. I did. I got me a TV show. Nice. Yeah. How did y'all get to that point?

Like, what was the work he had? do to really get you back committed. Like, all right, I told you, I'm not going to let you take care of me. I'm going to be independent. But what were the things that he had to work on for you to be comfortable enough to come back? Just take the eyelash off. No, she didn't do it. They're not set up like that.

No. No, it's not coming on. Because you're eye water. She's being on. That needs running. She was bothering her. It was running before I got out of here. I know he was going to be doing all this.

But, um, when she said, Just, you know, adapting to me getting back into, you know, into who I was, you know. And I, you know, I had to let them know, like, I was, you know, this is who, this is why you like me. You know what I'm saying? Because I was doing something. I was somebody. And so you taking, if I take that away, if I let you, you know what I'm saying, dummy that down, I'm not going to be able to be the person you want me to be for real, you know.

And eventually, and that took a minute too for him to kind of get used to it because, you know, he's like, he won't take care of everything. He won't be the man and everything. And I had to find a way to let him still do that, but also be able to do me. Right.

But then ultimately you become like, you kind of step, I don't want to say step into your ultimate role, but that's what he'd be feeling like. You see your woman become such an amazing wife, mother of the children, CEO at a house, like that's the most important role. that a person can play in a man's life, I think. Yeah, true.

And, you know, you start making these babies, I guess he had to see, like, yeah. You know, he could see different things. And I just had to have it. Like, at the end of the day, I had to have that for me. And you talk about, when you talked about, you know, having to have something for yourself and then going back to the group and figuring that out,

the tough times, and then you get into, you know, the times when you said, doing this anymore because he wasn't fighting for the relationship but you don't really say like what did you want his fight to look like like what was he not doing that made you say i'm a file for divorce um he wasn't you know anything like he wanted to be there and i don't ever i'm not gonna be anywhere i'm not wanted you know what i'm saying so if you know and i and i know what that feels like because he's he's he's a very uh affectionate person you know what i'm saying he's a leber so he knows how to get you know what i'm saying he knows how to get that out there so when i when i

seemed that it wasn't that. I was like, yeah, it's time to go. You know, and, you know, if I kept trying, like, you know, putting it out there a little bit and he's sitting the door on it, nah, I got to go. You know what I'm saying? Because I just ain't, I ain't trying to be noble

where I'm not wanting. There was another part in the, in the documentary, too, talking about, like, the babies and the family, where you talked about Jermaine DePree telling you that you shouldn't have your baby when you were pregnant. And you decided to that. That was hurt.

That was, that was, that was, tough to hear. I mean, you know, and I guess I think in the music industry, he was just being, you know, the producer and the guy, the head, the head over what, you know, back in the day, it was kind of like, it was taboo. Like, you know, you have a baby, your career is over, you know what I'm saying? And, you know, in his defense, we hadn't, we hadn't even started yet. we had created this album and then, you know, we hadn't put anything out.

So it's like, oh, you can't have no baby now. We've got to put an album out, you know what I'm saying? And I didn't have the girls. It was like, yeah, well, that's what he said, you know? And so I didn't have much of a fight there. I was like, hey. Then when your band members have one right after and she had the baby? She did.

She had one right after, and I promise you, I was like trying to get pregnant daily. After that, and I'm like, I'm having me a baby. Yeah. And then right after that, I got a little bit after that, I did get pregnant. Yeah. It was not a mistake. I was not a mistake.

It was a blessing in disguise because if I would have had that baby, I wouldn't have this baby. So, you know, yeah. Did you ever have a conversation with J.D., about that? Like, did it hurt you? Did it bother you? No, I'm going to be honest. I didn't, I mean, I wanted that baby, but it didn't hurt me. so much because I was young and I didn't really understand as much and I did make a healthy career

and then I had and then I went ahead of baby yeah you know so I I was able to get both you know so I was able to have a career that took me you know basically made my dreams come true and then I had my first child. Jermaine was trying to do a movie about Escape without y'all, right? Unfortunately, yes. That feels like that would have been a tougher conversation. And, you know, I don't know if we had much of a company. We did, like, a little bit.

He was like, well, I just wanted to tell the story because y'all went, I never thought y'all were going to get back together, and y'all went acting like, you know, it was just true. You know, we wasn't trying to get on the same page. And at the time, Candy was totally against talking to Tamika Scott. You know, for whatever, sorry, for whatever reason, Tamika Sky had said some stuff on the radio. And she was like, no, I'm never talking to her again. And so when this, when we found out about that, I initially called Candy and we, it's like, okay, how do we do this?

And I'm like, I got to get, I got to call Tamika. And she was like, well, I'm not talking to Tamiga. And to apologize to me. Woo, woo, woo, woo. And she got to apologize. The same way she talked about it on the radio, she got to apologize on the radio. So I called Tamiga, and Tamika's like, yeah, I don't mind at all.

You know, I apologize. I was wrong. So it went, it went well, you know. And we meant Tamika, me and Candy called Kathy Hughes. And we talked to her about, talked to her about working, you know, the project. And we went to D.C. we met with her.

And she was like, you know, we've already spent about $200-something,000 on this project. And we was like, yo, well, we want to tell our own story. Like, we are leaving a legacy for our children. You know, we don't want somebody else to be able to tell our story and we have nothing to do with it. She was like, yeah, I'm okay with that. I'm going to get rid of this show.

Mm. Mm. Wow. $1,000, they ain't number of wardrobe for escape. What she was just saying they had already started. Like, you know, it wasn't completed. But she was just saying, like, we've already spent this kind of money on there because they were in process. It was in the process of telling this story.

Zanique, at any moment, right, when you were interviewing your mom and she was giving you some of the answers and details, was you ever like, Was you ever like, my, look, don't put this in here. We're not going to put this in here. Their world ain't ready for this. Just leave some stuff for the family, just for me and you to know. Like, I feel like she, we definitely talked about a lot of things. So I think I was worried because I'm getting her to just spill, just spill. So I was a little worried like, ooh, how are they going to edit this?

Because I'm like, at this point, me and my mom just having a conversation and like the cameras are up. Yeah. And, you know, so. But I'm just. trying to think out of all the things. Yeah, like, you were very candid. I was surprised how much you told. I was talking and it was like, man, this is so good.

Yeah, and it was like she wasn't stopped. Like, she was telling the whole story. She spent 20 minutes on one question. I'm like, girl, you can stop a little, like, when you're ready. But I don't know. I won't, I can't say there was anything. I was just like, oh, that needs to be taken out. I was a little nervous.

Like, we was talking about my dad. Like, what was we talking about? But it's your childhood. Yeah, I spoke about her that. You don't really, oh, they didn't, yeah, because you don't know. I can't really say it. She just don't really say. They said a little bit.

Just a little bit. I don't think it was much, but, you know, I spoke, I did speak about my childhood. So was her dad the one that your parents went to the projects to go see? Yeah. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. That's him. Yeah, I'm like, that's him.

I'm like, she's a married woman. She's a married woman now. So I'm just like, I don't know. Stuff like that, stir up stuff for no reason, talking about your past. Yeah. Yeah. Make sure you check out times for Nick on Unsensitive Man on TV One. That's right.

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You said, I was ready to take it. Well, you can check it out on the 26 and thank you guys for joining us. Thank you. Thank you. It's the breakfast club. Good morning. Every day I wake up Wake your ass up

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