The Breakfast Club - INTERVIEW: Trae Tha Truth Speaks On New Music, Custody Of His Daughter, Moving On From Z-Ro Situation + More

Episode Date: September 2, 2024

The Breakfast Club sits down with Trae Tha Truth to discuss his new music, custody of his daughter, and moving on from Z-Ro situation. Listen for more!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Wake that ass up in the morning. The Breakfast Club. Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy, Jess Hilarious, Charlamagne Tha Guy. We are The Breakfast Club. Lauren LaRosa's filling in for Jess. And we got a special guest in the building. We got Trey Da Truth. Welcome back, Trey. What up, bro? What up, man? How you feeling, man?

How you doing, brother? Life been life. I know you got a lot going on. You want to start with the BS or you want to start with the positive first I need I need the energy from y'all all right I don't even know what this is this the candle spiritual every morning I got policy trainees to poly what is that it's supposed to be like good energy good vibes but with him lighting it you have a 50 50 chance that you know because charlamagne's like yeah because he it depends on what was looming over him at the time so how you

feeling brother album out right now album's doing well yeah crowd control crowd control yeah it's just you know i'm always trying to add to the catalog and level up. The little homie Moxie pumped me up to do a turn up festival song and it ended up turning out to be a whole album. You just put out Stuck in Motion last year though. Yeah, yeah, but crazy thing is I'm still kind of at a standstill. I got three more I'm supposed to put out this year.

I don't know how. Wow. Yeah, yeah, but they all different vibes though, you know, cause I have the turn up which is crowd control. I got an album called Him which is another kind of turn up but more street. Dark Angel just all the pain and everything I'm going through I think that a lot of people

probably can use right now to know that they ain't the only ones going through it. And then live from Mars, the homie Mars from LA who do a lot of real production, you know, play all the instruments on tour for everybody. It's a whole album with just live instruments and stuff. How are you doing all these albums,

Trey? And you put your cape on, you're saving people, you're cutting down trees, you're driving through hurricanes but then you still got time to do trey day to do an album and everything else you're doing where are you finding the time to do all this did you ever just stop and take a break and just rest and relax you know y'all the only ones who asked me and you know i still ain't took a break um and how i do the music i just get out my bed and walk next door to the studio so i just just, I'm sitting there 24-7, man. But, yeah, I don't know, man.

The break just, it still ain't hit me. A lot of people with your catalog don't like, like they're not putting out, you said you got three more projects before the end of the year that are supposed to come. Yeah, yeah, yeah. What is the motivation there? Because at this point, you could kind of just, you know,

do all your community stuff and just kind of. And it be like. Thankfully Hurricane Susan was kind of light, man. Was it light? It didn't seem like it was light. It didn't seem like it was light. It wasn't, it wasn't, it was light, but it wasn't light. Like it could have been way, for what we expected,

we thought it was going to be way worse and it didn't. And then, you know, Hurricane Burr, you know, it did, it's damaged, but it didn't and then you know hurricane burr you know it did it's damaged but it wasn't a harvey so we blessed you know and maybe i'm speaking too soon i only want to talk that yeah we don't want that yeah do you get do you feel like the way that that hurricanes and the weather affects houston so bad it's so crazy do you feel like they should have been fixed the problems like the flood like it seems like every year we have the same problems with houston with the flooding and it is and electric and it is it feels like they should have figured out how to prepare a fix or stop you know at this point more resources yeah yeah i think honestly i mean one thing for sure that we don't have is the proper drainage system because it can rain for a matter of an hour

in certain areas get flooded so clearly that got to be a problem you know um and speaking of that it's so crazy i i teamed up with these people out of australia i'm part of the company now it's called crisis flood bags and um what i'm trying to do right now i'm trying to i've been meeting with different people but i'm trying to get female insurance companies or the government to get it the bag i could take one bag and fill up everything including this this and one bag out of a room it can do living rooms bedrooms and once the bag is zipped it can stay underwater for two weeks oh wow so you gotta think even though you're not able you i mean, the home can be damaged, you

know, because you can't stop the flood, but stuff that mean the most to you, priceless stuff and important stuff, will be protected. And then you got to think, man, during Harvey, they said it was billions to clean up just the trash that was sitting outside on the curb. So if I could prevent that, you know, that's changing a whole bunch of lives. But the goal is get one of these agencies like FEMA or insurance companies to get it. If they get enough of them,

then for the people who can't afford them, I can go get them out for free. So I'm always trying to just be proactive. You know what I'm saying? Absolutely. Why you didn't even have crowd control? Because it's a festival vibe. You got to be able to control the crowd whenever you touch that stage.

You know, I wanted to ask you, Trey, because we had my man Sauce Walker up here a couple of weeks ago, and he was just talking about cultural appropriation versus cultural appreciation. And he said he feels like an artist like Drake, who is in the city so much, should do more for the city as far as working with Houston artists. And I wondered what your thoughts was on that. I think everybody, in all honesty, it all depends on what point of view you look at it.

And I think as grown men, we all entitled to our point of views. As far as me, I can only speak for myself. I really ain't in tune with what you're talking about, and me and him ain't had a conversation to see his aspect. Because one thing I've learned in all things is a lot of people can say stuff and mean stuff, but how it come across on the Internet or how it come across as pushed out can be some totally opposite.

So, you know, I think until me and him hold a conversation and now you said i probably have to go look back man i really i've been off the internet man dealing with life lately man like i i had to make myself push this out you know what i'm saying and that's stuff that i you know i i legally i can't even just talk about right now but it's just you, you know, life, my life, man. But what I will say for Houston as a whole, though, I'm very proud. You got to think, man, one, we already had the biggest stars, which is undeniable. You got your Beyoncé's, you got your Travis, you got your Miz,

you got your Yolanda Adams, even down to one of the biggest stars that we all grew up on, Felicia Rashad. You know, you have people from Houston, but now you have so many, you know, from the street aspect, you have the rejects from the generations after us. You have the Sauce Walkers, the Lil' Jermys, you know, the Fastlanes, and you know,

just, it's so many different aspects. And then you have a bunch of females coming out of Houston and coming out of Texas that's raw. Me personally, my mind right now that I highlight definitely be the rejects, which is you got Big Tony, Cal Wayne, Jack Boy, Fast Money, 30 Ways, Skeet, Millie Bucks, LeRae. I mean, it's a lot of people.

And it'd be hard to shed light on names because then you forget people and then you're like, damn. But I think right now as a whole, I think people should definitely pay attention to what we got going on in Houston. And then in the game, people don't really realize what we give to the culture. You go to think of double cups, you go to think of grills, you go to think of

cars, you go to think of speaking to Envy, you know, he ain't going to think the car is the best ever at Houston it is. But nah, even when you go to think of Trap Soul, that's all a form of what Screw used to do. You know what I'm saying? You got to think,

who don't love Trap Soul right now from Bryson Tillett? So I think everybody takes a part of Houston as a whole, and now shit, we the biggest goddamn party city right now. And I was going to say that, it was New York for a while,

then it went to Atlanta, but now everybody's going to Houston. How does that affect the city? Are people respecting the city? Because at one time, they were effing Atlanta up during COVID. I mean, there was so much going on, they cleaned it up a lot. But how has it affected Houston? I think it's a good thing, man.

I think it's a good thing for the economy because it brings business. You know, people now, when they do their, what do you call it, like their trips with their homies or they friends. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We can trip with them. They all going there. Girls trip to Houston. Fellas drive out and headed to Houston.

Yeah, so and then other than that, you have people like us who are on the front line. We ain't just letting nobody come through there and tear the town up. That part we ain't going to do. But I think everything for us is on the up and up. You know, everybody have their spans. You have different things, whether it may be music, sports, or whatever, Florida. You had that on the West Coast.

You have it in New York. And now even down to the Rockets, down to the Texans, down to the rugby team. People don't even know we got a rugby team. Our rugby team was number two last year, you know, so we got a whole bunch of different things just as a whole with Houston, and outside of that, I'm frontline for it, so everything, I represent everybody who except me,

except in Houston right now. When you talk about life be lifin', right, how do you know that you just ain't doing things to stay away from having to deal with all of that, Trey? Like putting out the music, you know, frontlining all the time when there's a catastrophe in the city, like how do you know you just ain't running from dealing with your own stuff?

What do you mean, as far as me running from my own problems that I may, let's see, this is you with this therapy shit. No, because you just saying, just said you had to push through to even put the music out. It feels like you kind of are deflecting. I can laugh and joke about it only because this still my brother, but I know the angle he's going. I don't know.

I can't say I'm running. I can't say I'm running because I deal with my problems head on. I think a lot of people, what I learned recently, so I did for Trady, I did my first men's mental health panel, just for people to get up there and just express theyself or what they're going through. And man, a lot of us deal with a lot of trauma that we probably didn't realize.

I don't think I'm running. I think, honestly, for me, I'm not comfortable unless I stay active. If I sit still, one, I get to overthinking. Two, I just feel like stuff's just coming to a halt, so I have to just stay active. And even if it's 1,000 pounds of pressure, I'm more comfortable getting out of that than just doing nothing.

And I could be wrong from time to time, I don't know. I mean, until that one therapist sit me down and say this what this is, then I never know. Did you ever find one? Oh, I talked to some people through you. Okay, okay. Now have I actually went in that room and sat down? I haven't did that, but we had long phone conversations.

And now, you know, not to get too much into it now, I got primary custody of my daughter. So I just introduced her to a therapist. So, you know, it's a lot of different things that I got to, you know. How old is your daughter? Six. She's six. So how was her talking to a therapist? So, you know, it's a lot of different things that I got to, you know, I'm still climbing. How old is your daughter? Six. She's six.

So how was her talking to a therapist? You know, the crazy thing, man, the time that I've allowed her to go, because really I'm still, I want to find the perfect one. I don't necessarily know if the person I take her to is the one she should stick with, but I allow her to do her own thing. I, you know, I get out the way, and she can have her own conversation, and then, you know, I learn about it afterwards. But I think everything works, again. Why was it important for you to, you know,

because a lot of parents would say, I don't know if I want to put my child into therapy. Why do you think it was important to put her into therapy? Because it's a good conversation for parents. You know, why do you think it was like you know i think this is something that especially because you haven't done it oh that's one reason because i know i should um but then you got to think transitioning from one home to the next i don't this is new to me so i don't know how long that process take i don't know if that process is going to take a week, two weeks. I don't know if it's going to take years, months.

So the only thing I can do is do my best to support her, you know, because at the same time, I have to let her know how much she love. I have to let her know, even though she may be frustrated because, you know, they kids, they have friends, They have things that they used to. Now it's a new transition, so I have to just – I think God teaching me patience in this situation too because at times she may just sit and cry or may say she want her mama. I have to still be overloving to her to let her know,

regardless of what it is, I'm here. We're going to figure it out. I mean, if we both got ourselves here and keep bumping our heads, so be it. But we're going to figure it out, and your pop is going to be with you to the end. A lot of us watched you in that, like, fight with your daughter, like trying to figure out the custody thing or whatever. How does it feel now to be able to, like you said, like you're doing things like putting her in therapy,

you're working things out together. Like, you don't have to fight anymore. You can just be dad now. How does that feel? I'm not going to, like you don't have to fight anymore, you can just be dad now. How does that feel? I'm not gonna necessarily say I don't have to fight no more but what I will say is it's a process. You know, the crazy thing, you find things that we be proud of,

that we accomplished. And out of all the big stuff I did in life, you know one of the happiest moments was to enroll her in school. You see what I'm saying? Like, stuff like that. She got me out there watching her do cheerleading. So, you know, that'd be weird.

You a cheer dad? Me too. I'm a cheer dad. Look, it'd be weird because everybody's standing like, man, that's Trey, but I'm just out here trying to pump up. Do you be yelling in the cheer competition? I can't imagine you yelling. Nah, nah, nah. Come on now. I clap at the end. I'm a cheerleader.

I don't see Bun. I think Bun granddaughter is a cheerleader. I see Bunny Queen at the events all the time. I love this for you though. Especially because knowing what you went through. You know what I mean? I can only imagine. They're enrolling the first day of school. What was that like y'all wake up early you go yeah they're

enrolling so her school starts on the third she haven't even started yet okay so um i don't know uh hers no she ain't private so okay yeah she'll she'll start and um on the third so you know wait to see how that go but ideally, man, it's just a blessing, man, and I think everything I experience with her and everything that I'm learning is making me a better me, because you gotta

also think, man, when I'm out moving in the streets, times that I could get in a situation, I'm double thinking it for my kids more as opposed to just moving off emotion. And even speaking of emotion, I had a conversation with somebody.

Being raised in the streets, you would think when people, the way we came up, somebody say something to you, you have to check that shit. That's just what it is. Point blank period, I'm going all out about that.

And I didn't realize, bro, was learning opposite the strength is being able to dictate when you move off emotion you know i mean dictate when you move because we so used to moving off emotion and that's why i'm instilling a lot of little homies like hey just before you jump the crash out of times i did the same thing like you got to dictate when you move because moving off emotion, it feel good for that moment. You know what I'm saying? And then you ever see situations

where people are like, damn, bro, I probably just wasted a whole bunch of time. I shouldn't even did that shit. So now I'm at a point of really teaching people, you know, like, nah, bro, we ain't moving off emotion. Now, at the end of the day,

don't let nobody disrespect you, protect you, your family, everything you bro, we ain't moving off your most. Now, at the end of the day, don't let nobody disrespect you, protect you, your family, everything you got to do and go all out behind it. But as far as just saying I'm walking in the hall, somebody bumped me. Now, younger me will, bro, what the fuck you doing? This one, like, I'm going to let you not have a nigga do that and he go to get in disrespect with that and he get what he deserve.

But for the most part, it's like, man, sometimes some of that shit just don't be worth it, bro. When'd you adopt this mentality, Trey? In the past six months? He been keeping it. He got his baby girl at home. Yeah, I mean, I'm learning, and I'm still a work in progress myself.

And again, it's hard because, again, I deal with everything head up so this is a new challenge for me to not really move off everything. Man I used to be to the point, you say something slick on the internet, I'm trying to find IP address, I need to know where you at.

Like you know what I'm saying? So now it's like sometimes I have to look at stuff and just laugh it off and it don't be easy, you know what I'm saying? And I'm sure you can attest to this, Envy. Just the shit that, how people don't really even know truths about situations, people can form opinions. And it's like, sometimes you just, you gotta be able to not be bothered.

I think that's gonna be my biggest, once I conquer not being bothered, I think I'm gonna be my biggest, once I conquer not being bothered, I think I'm completing what I'm supposed to do. Cause I feel like God probably got me some real big coming for me and he just like, yeah, it's there and I'm letting you know it's there, but I got a feeling you still might fuck up. So I'm finna run you through the ring

until I know it's all out of you and you gonna move right. Do you regret any of your former crash outs? That's a good question. I'm speaking about one specifically. I know you do. I know you do and middle finger to you for doing that shit right now.

I'm just asking. But I think man, so it's a double-edged sword i think everything that i went through in life good or bad mold molds my character it builds me because we have to learn from experiences you know and i think um on that part i don't regret becoming who I am. I don't regret learning what I learned or some of the brick walls I hit. Now, on the flip side of that, yeah, do I feel like, man, you know what?

Some shit just ain't worth it or wasn't worth it. Yeah, I definitely feel like that. And lastly to that, man, it's a frustrating situation when nobody really knows in that particular situation what really went on. One, I don't really talk, you know, I don't talk, I don't do interviews and shit like that,

so I leave the room open for everybody to come up with their own there, to come up with their own opinion, cause I be feeling like, fuck, I need to explain it, for it is what it is. You know what I'm saying? But that becomes the frustrating part because then all in the end,

if and when people, if I ever decide to just speak or go a certain route, people be like, well, damn, I had this shit mixed up the whole time. For me, it's too late at that point.

But the other reason why I don't really, in any situation I go in, I don't break my neck to go try and control the narrative, because it's a blessing when you get to see how people really feel. Man, when I tell you, when I seen how motherfuckers start showing how they real, for me it's two things in mind. One is, you been a hater.

You've been feeling this way. You just wasn't man or woman enough to say what the fuck. You waited till a situation happened for you to be like, oh, yeah, man, you know what, this was, you don't really care about that situation. This is how you've been feeling. You just didn't. About you.

Yeah, you just didn't want to be exposed for being a hater. You know what I'm saying? So, you know, all these situations, I think in every lesson that I deal with, it's a blessing. But how do you move on now? Because, you know, Houston's a big place but a small place, right? Everybody intertwines with everybody. So how do you move on because it's so small?

I deal with who deal with me. And those who deal with me, man, you know, regardless if I talk every day or not, they know if they hear me, they can always depend on me, vice versa. Because a real friend and a real family, a real homie is gonna be the one that'll be there supporting you even if it's you against the world. And those people, you have to value things like that,

you know what I'm saying, because you have people, I could sit in your face and be like, oh yeah man, this and that, and behind your back be like, yeah man, fuck him, or whatever happened to him happened. A real one is behind closed doors or in front, like nah, you need anything, let me know. Because what I don't like in life is watching people

cheerleading, parade to tear somebody down. You know what I'm saying? Like, I don't fuck with that. Like, I feel like when you get the, what you call it, the Me Too crowds. I don't know if I'm using it right in that sense, but when I don't like it, well, I don't either. So that's just all piled up and just, you know, I don't respect that. You know, like I'd rather you be your own man.

If you feel some way, let that be known. But not me too, like the cancel culture you mean? Yeah. Well, yeah, so that's why I say that because I didn't know if that was the way to use it, but yeah. No, because it's interesting, right? Like, and from the outside looking in,

when the situation went down with you and Zero, it felt like people were taking sides and I was like, I'm like, damn, people don't like Trey like that? I think that was the first time I felt like that too. But I think it's because people felt like we didn't expect to see you that way because everybody else, like now you're like, you're almost like a superhero on Houston. You know what I mean?

You do so much good for people. So I think that's what it was. But did that hurt you like when you did see people picking those other sides, like did it hurt you? I know you said you learned from it, but like. I think physically and mentally, I'm still me. The frustration of it is like, cause you, I'm talking about people you deal with

on the regular, the thing is, internet is a motherfucker, right right so you have some people that really don't feel a certain way but they just don't want to be in the midst of the the controversy or seem like they could be on the the bad side of the stick so they'll switch up and for me it's it's something that that you need to see you know i I'm saying? Like, it was a lot of people that was close that let me down. And it was a lot of people that I didn't expect that didn't let me down that they're still with me, you know? And even to this day, right, it's like people don't understand.

Like, I don't have no hate pertaining to him. You know what I'm saying? Even when people go to do things, man, do what y'all going to do. Like, you know, because at the end of the day, you got to realize I've always been my own man. When I got banned from radio, bro, I was left on the island by myself before. So I'm built for it, you know what I'm saying? Now, who's to say you want to go through that process all over again?

It is what it is. But for me to be able to see how people really felt that give me fuel to the fire you know i'm saying that give me oh that's how y'all y'all got me fucked up now if you mad i'm gonna make you i'm gonna make you way more mad than that you know and um it just is what it is but again you gotta appreciate the people that step in for you like when you go to look at trade days you you go to look at different stuff I got, there's people, no matter how much I may not, I may feel like everybody against me,

I have to realize everybody ain't against me. You know, just, it can look one way and it can be something totally opposite. Because I get support from my real peers, my real homies, my real family. Like they there, they rocking people in town and out of town because the way y'all see things, everybody else see things too. And a lot of people just feel like that ain't no solid shit

just for everybody to turn on him. And one thing you got to know in every situation, it's three sides to the story. And in every video you see, it's a start to the video. That's why when I see different things on the Internet, you never jump to go off opinion when you just see a piece. You can just see a piece of me and you right now. I may shove you into that that they may see.

They may not see you threw this milk on me, then told me suck your, you see what I'm saying? Lord have mercy. Disrespectful. Like, you do something like that, people don't, and they just going off what they see, man. And that's why a lot of times people be dead wrong in situations because they jump to form an opinion and they don't really know. But for me, even though I could have probably cleared up a lot, I feel like, for what, man?

If you fuck with me, you're going to fuck with me regardless. Because we all do things. We all make mistakes. We all run into brick walls. We all may do things people don't like. You know what I'm saying? But at the end of the day, if you really don't rock with me, I do need to know that.

Because feeling like I am the person that everybody loves, that may make me too comfortable. And then, really, it's probably holding me back because God probably ain't going to let me step to the next level because, shit, certain people ain't supposed to be around when I get up there. Do you hold grudges because you a cancer like me? I definitely do. But, you know, my biggest thing, right,

I feel like I pray every night at midnight. I feel like when I ask the man up above for forgiveness, I can't do that without me letting go. And that's why even speaking on this situation, this is probably one of the first times I even speak on it. I don't have no hate for him. I tell people all the time, man, go support the music, do whatever you're gonna do.

Because what people fail to realize, that was something internal. You know what I'm saying? That was something. Because y'all family. Right, that was something we had going on. You know what I'm saying? But again, just the way that everybody spent the near,

the blogs, it just, like at that point, man, fuck it, at this point, it's everybody else opinion, not knowing what's really going on with me and this person. You know what I'm saying? So for me, it ain't no, hey, bro, I just, it was what it was. I moved on. I'm keeping it pushing. You know what I'm saying?

At the end of the day, for all those who thought it was going to stop me, it ain't stop shit, bro. Have you had a conversation? Have you had a conversation after? No, no. The thing is, before we never seen each other, and after we don't see each other, We don't move in the same place. Believe it or not, we never really see each other.

I don't think I could tell you once or twice we seen each other within an eight to ten year time span. We don't see each other at all. If you were to run into him tomorrow, today, if he was to call you, would you be open to a conversation? I mean, we grown men. He entitled how he feel, I'm entitled how I do. I'm going to speak up for mine the same way I would hope he would speak up for himself.

So, again, I'm telling you, it ain't no hate on my end. I went through what I went through. I took it on the chin, and I kept it moving, you know? Like, it's not like we can't be in the same room. I'm going to be tripping as soon as I see him. Like, I ain't really on that type of time. You know, I'm a man that's going to always stand to feel myself and stand on business on what I believe,

but I'm not out here looking for that. You got to realize, bro, I deal with real-life situations. Instead of living for the Internet like everybody else, I'm trying to figure out what's going to be the next move with my kids, what's the next move with helping somebody else that I'm doing or helping these families or helping some of the young homies out the hood or helping someone with music and business. So it's like my life don't revolve around that every day.

So for the people who was hating on you, right, like the people that you saw hating on you during this decision, if it was a hurricane and they was crazy, I don't need any help. You know, it's crazy. I've already done it. And one of my little partners, right, shout out Skeet, I've already done it. You know, it's crazy. I've already done it.

And one of my little partners, right? Shout out to Skeet. My partner, he jumped on the internet right when the hurricane hit. Yeah. All y'all hating on Trey, don't y'all call him for no goddamn help. No supplies for you. But those who know me and really know me, they know it. I'm never going to leave nobody hanging.

And it's a lot of people that I ended up helping. And if I didn't help them, I ended up probably helping one of their relatives. So, well, some people respectfully came to me like, man, you know what? I was wrong, bro. I put on the opinion. And at the end of the day, I probably shouldn't have did that. And, you know, you can appreciate apologies like that. But, yeah, you definitely, I definitely, they ass need help, they ass still calling.

You know what I'm saying? Is that energy still the same for the people who had a lot to say when you were going through all your back and forth with your daughter's mom online? People were picking sides there? I think in every situation you can't, unless I'm putting them all in the bucket, all bearers gone, like, I may have not even seen some of the stuff

that they've done so i think honestly man everybody ain't built to like you you know um everybody not built to like you they they not gonna be in your corner so it's on you if you want to harp or dwell on it or if you just want to keep it pushing you know a lot of us put value in people that don't fuck with us and been an overlooked the people that really do. So it's like I'm just out of space now and trying to use my energy the right way. You know I'm a rock with those who really rock with me

and those who don't, see what it is. Those who don't rock with me I ain't even mad at you. You end up looking crazy in the end you know. How did the death of Beat King impact the city of Houston? I definitely think that was a sad situation. It was an unbelievable situation. Because you know how, for us, we used to death. Sometimes you'll see stuff on the internet

and you'll be like, nah, hell nah. But I think that was one of them situations that wasn't expected. And just thinking back, me and him, we really didn't talk much at all. But you can't deny the presence he had when it came to the club. Like he had a tag. When he had the tag, you would know he had something to do with it. So you couldn't deny what he brought. And he stayed in his own lane because he wasn't trying to make street music.

He wasn't trying to do the backpack. He just stayed doing him. And, you know, anybody who stayed doing them and stay in their own lane, you got gotta respect it because they didn't alter, they didn't shift, they did what they felt was best for them. So you know, I felt like it's definitely something that's, that touched the city.

I mean anybody, I'ma be honest, any fallen soldiers we had from the city of Houston musically always impact the city because Houston and Texas alone really support they artists. So, you know, a lot of deaf people take it personal, you know. How did you and J. Cole get so close, man? We've always been close since younger, man. And it's crazy. That's why looking at the song that he did

Trader Truth and the Visa like you could look at I didn't have a beard at that time you know what I'm saying but it happened right after I got shot and I remember he called me. So that was like 2012 2013? Yeah. But I'm saying we was cool way before then, but I'm saying right after I got shot, he called me and he was just like, man bro, you got the potential of doing so much shit and so many people fuck with you, like I need to, I feel like I wanna just take you with me

to show you something different. You know, basically to inspire me and show me what I can, what I'm capable of doing and what I can. He ended up taking me with him. We went to Ibiza. That was my first time ever seeing festivals. I think we did wireless and stuff like that, shit that I haven't seen,

just to show a whole different world. And even past that situation and that, truth be told, people don't know when I get ready to put out albums, if you catch me going for a long time and I ain't putting nothing out, he's probably the reason I end up putting it out. Because we'll sit on the phone for hours

going back and forth, you know, debating. And he'll be like, yeah, you worried about if you're going to sell this amount of records or you worried about how no labels are signed because of the radio stuff at the end of the day, bro, just put it out. If you put it out, it don't matter if you get 20 or 30 fans. Guess what? You put that out, you get 30 fans.

You put this out, you gain another 50. It might be a way longer process, but not doing nothing, you're not gaining nothing. So, like, you got to take some risks regardless of how you look because at the end of the day, mentally we so stuck and worried about how people are going to look at us, how people are going to laugh at us when we do stuff or if we're going to fail or succeed.

And I think when you get to a point where you're not necessarily caring about that, then you can kind of enjoy it. You know, like that's what it pisses me off when you see, and I don't like even speaking on that because I hate speaking on other situations, but when Cole said what he said on stage, I was there. The thing is, the first thing everybody was saying was, oh man, he apologizing,, he scared, he doing this.

For me it pissed me off, which he honestly, in his mind is, I don't want y'all speaking up, I'm fine with that. In his mind is, one we all is cool, and we still are, you know what I'm saying? But on the flip side, that ain't his energy. He was focused on his album. And these things, I may be supposed to say,

may not. If you look at his tape that came out, the last song was supposed to be Trade the Truth and the Beezle. So that's why at the end when I say, even if we fall off, we don't fall off. That was the outro but the pre-intro for his new album, The Fall Off. But if you pay attention to the project they end up having the the the record where he went back at him

and it just threw everything off and and i think honestly within the spirit i salute him because he is on man like i'm not supposed to be keyed up by y'all and at the end of the day he got on that stage and he said it genuinely like that ain't my energy. Like, bro, I don't feel good about that because that's not like, he wasn't offended by the shit that was said. It was more keyed up by everybody

making them go there. Now, what I will say is You could feel it in the diss record. That shit was whack. And Cole don't do nothing whack. Like, that was like, come on, Cole. Well, I ain't gonna say it but you know, you're gonna speak good. I don't think it in the diss record. That shit was whack. And Cole don't do nothing whack. Like, that was like, come on, Cole. Well, I ain't going to say it. But, you know, you're a speaker. It wasn't whack. I don't think it was whack at all.

It wasn't whack. Yes, it was. But what I will say is, yeah, you can tell that that wasn't the energy he was on. And I think, honestly, man, just us as a whole, you got to respect the ones that's going to step out on their own and not worry about how people looking at you. You know what I'm saying? Them the ones you got to understand is more authentic because a lot of people, the internet or opinions of other people can force you to do some shit that you really don't want to do.

I think what his fans do. But then a couple months later, everybody was like, Cole was right. Now every time they see Cole, they're like, Cole was right. Cole protected his peace. I know you had been asked about it, and they worded it like, oh, he ducked. Or he tried to dodge the beef or whatever. He was like, he wasn't ducking from anything. It was just something he decided to do.

After looking at everything that played out and kind of where Drake lies now, are you happy that he made that decision? Or do you feel like that'm gonna be honest and just being transparent with you i don't give a damn about the the beat part that ain't my that i always been a cat to stay in my own lane um now if you ask do i feel good about that situation i'm gonna say yes only because bro did what he felt he needed to do and that made him feel comfortable and that got him his peace of mind to get back focused on working on his

album and focusing on his kids so that part I'm definitely happy about it you know what I'm saying the only thing I didn't like is I think Cole and Cole fans for the last couple of years to prove how nice Cole is and how busy Cole is and they had so many different complaints.

Oh, Cole does his own beats. He should do different beats. And Cole should do more guest appearances. And I just felt like he was doing that and he was shooting down everybody that he was doing songs with. And it was just, it was glad to hear Cole the way I heard him when growing up as a kid as mixtape Cole. And then I just felt like that whole situation

just kind of paused that. Not to me because you can't take away what a person was already doing no but we haven't seen Cole in a minute since he kind of did back off

a little bit yeah he fell back when I heard that brother say he hadn't slept good he was sleeping good for 10 years and that was the first time in 10 years

he didn't sleep good that's all you need to tell me you don't let don't disturb me because he gets busy and a lot of times people don't understand now what I will say

is I'm not we ain't gonna go in depth but just don't get it tell me. You don't have to tell me. You don't have to tell me. But he gets busy and a lot of times people don't understand. Now what I will say is I'm not, we ain't gonna go in depth, but just don't get it fucked up. His album coming. And when the album comes, it's probably gonna shock a lot of people. So remember what I tell you all the time, a lot of people form opinions on things

and they don't fully know situations. That's right. Are you the intro? Are you the intro? Nah, nah, nah, I was the outro. they don't fully know situations. You know. But he'll be all right. Are you the intro? Nah, nah, nah, I was the outro. You know, hey, before it's too late, you never know what bro may do, you know. And then, you know, what I will do is I always salute him.

You know, we did the Trader Truth and the Bees, the remix that's out now. And then for Trader, you know, he literally flew in on the jet to ride bikes with me through Houston for the Welcome to Houston with Club City Cruisers and jumped back on the jet an hour and a half later after we did bikes and came back, you know what I'm saying? Like, that's my real brother, you know.

And I salute him, man. I stand behind him 1,000%. Now, did you audition for Bad Boys 4, or they just called you? Martin, you know, Martin and my brother, so you know my cartoons that I always do? Yeah. I have a partnership with Martin,

so, you know, of course, we were... That's for the one Trey on Tubi? Huh? Or is it, that's a different cartoon? That was beforehand. Okay, got you. So we were getting ready to put it out, man man and we had it's crazy like i can't go in depth but just we had big writers different stuff with us fucking covid hit so that's it messed up any and everything possible so then after covid we's back on it Then the writers and the actors strike came.

So it was just like, eh. So in the midst of that still going, Martin called me and it was actually the last day or two days that they was filming Bad Boys 4 and ended up having me come out and get in it. And now that's a new process of me understanding what with the major movies because they have so many different versions.

Then they had to cut it down to where it's crazy. I'm in the trailer, but in the movie, they ended up cutting the movie down, so they took some of the scenes out. Which I don't know if, you know, when they come out to streaming services, if it go back in or what it is. But for me, it was just a dope experience.

And shit, that trailer you see across the world, you see me all in it. You know what I'm saying? And Martin, my brother, his whole family is my family, man. They real support of everything I go through, good or bad. Well, let's get into a joint off the album. What you want to hear? What you want to play, Trey? Man, I have no idea. You want to play Fires?

That's definitely where we at. You got to do the dance, though. You got to do the dance. I don't know. I wouldn't know how to dance. Well, let's get into it right now. It's Fires featuring Lil Yachty. It's Trey the Truth. It's The Breakfast Club.

Good morning. Wake that ass up. Early in the morning. The Breakfast Club.