The Breakfast Club - INTERVIEW: Trap Dickey Talks 'The Ville,' South Carolina Upbringing, Music Career & Following The Blueprint + More

Episode Date: May 8, 2026

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Ladies and gentlemen, we got Trapdick in the building. Welcome, brother. We're here. How you feeling, man? I'm feeling good. I'm here at a breakfast club. You know what time it is. There you go.

My Carolina brother ain't here, we live. Yes, sir, a new project, the Ville out. Oh, yeah, it's coming. It's coming to be here tomorrow. You said it's an old to all Vills. Yeah, it's to all Vils. You know how it is, especially coming from the South, it's a bunch of Ville, but it ain't just for my Ville.

You know you got Nashville, you got Louisville, even in New York, you got Brownsville. It's shit everywhere. Even in California, you got Victorville. So it's like it ain't just for myville. But in the South and North Carolina, it's a bunch of them. Now, you signed a TDE. How difficult was it coming out from our artists from South Carolina?

Because we don't see too many artists that really cross over into the charts of South Carolina. How difficult was it for you? It feels good, but it was a blessing. It wasn't so much difficult when you really got the love behind you. Like I say, you got people from Carolina. Carolina support Carolina. And we show love to any entertainment. and entertainer.

So it's like we pay good. We love to see people. So it's a blessing to see me make it this far. But I don't feel like it was difficult. It's just putting in hard work. And Horsville, Hotsville is smaller than where I'm from in Long's Corner. I actually was in Horsville.

I sent him a picture. I was in a few weeks ago because I went to the racetrack in Darlaton. So you had to go through Hothfield. I stopped at some place to eat. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Probably Yogi Bay or something. I don't remember the seafood spot.

But Harsville's like six square miles. Oh, yeah, Mayflower. Mayflower. Mayflower. Hartfield's only six square miles. What's the population? 7,000. It ain't nothing but one gas, no, two gas stations

opened after 12 probably. One Walmart, one high school. Everybody knows everybody. Yeah, everybody granted. Yeah, everybody granted. For sure, for sure. It's crazy. Fetty Walt, grandma knew my grandma.

That's how I was able to just link with Fettie because everybody's grandma know everybody. Oh, really, for real for real. That's crazy. How did you get to TD? How did you sign with TD? It was a blessing, an intern, I'm trying to say cheese, Sean Cotton.

I used to pay for the promo all the time. And my intern from TDE was asking Sean Cotton about, hey, what you got new? And they sent them Trap Dickie. And it was just so happened that they liked the music. Wow. And just went with it. Well, congratulations, man.

The record is moving up to charge crazy, man. It's a blessing. One thing I love that Trap did, man, at Hartsville, you paid off your grandfather's foreclosure. Oh, yeah. I think it was $60,000. Yeah, I'm telling you. But from there, you begin to just buy multiple properties in the neighborhood you grew up in.

Yeah, because you'll never know. Like, when these houses be so old, your grandma would be them paid for the house about three, four times, paying rent. So when you ask them how much the house is and they sell price, you're like, damn, might as well just buy the house. Just going through that made me really get into it. Like, if I'm going to pay $60,000 to keep house, I might as well find some houses in the hood. They're all cheap. I'm about to keep buying houses.

kind of gotten a liking to it. That's what I kept doing. And you bought a whole block for just you and your family. Oh, yeah, definitely. My little brother, his grandma died. So when his grandma died, he was just like me. He was into it like, hey, how much you think my grandma's is? And when he found out it was only 16,000, it was like, damn.

Wow. So he went ahead. We bought that one. Asked the neighbors, we started, like, you know, people lived for so long when they die. Their family don't even be around. So we're seeing all these old people die left and right. We just started saying, hey, I'm going to sell the house for. Just kept buying them back to back to back.

So eventually, we got six houses or three houses on one block, and there's only six houses on this block. So if you own four houses on a block of six, you have no on the block. So you renovating them? Oh, no, that's for us. Okay, okay. I can tell who can park here. I can tell what you're doing here.

If you ain't coming to one of these houses, what you're doing to do in? You can't say you own your hood If you don't really own your hood I'm so sick of people saying it's mine But you don't own nothing here Your name ain't on no property At least I can say my brother name on So many properties over here

You can't be here without us knowing It shouldn't be no reason The police die out here, nothing If we ain't got no phone call And it's yours to always come back to In the midst of all of this stuff That you got going on now Right like you can go home and really like

Put your feet in the ground And it's all it's really yours Oh, definitely. I was walking any time of night. You feel I mean? Cars bumping music turned up to the max. Only we can call the police. How are you balancing all of that, right? Like as you rise and you're able to do all these things for your family,

but also balancing the superstardom that you're walking into. Like he just said, it ain't nothing but 7,000 people. They already knew who I was before. If it's 7,000 people, 3,000, 2,000 people probably know my mom. mama, 500 going to say, yeah, I'm going to go pull up on them if I say pull up on me. So it's like I got to be mindful of what I'm doing. I got to be respectful of what I'm doing. If the mayor can call my phone and say, hey, what you're doing?

I know I got to be respectful. You know what I'm saying? It's too small. So I look at it as exactly what it is. They being new. I better act like I know. Was there shocks when the rest of the world started catching on to you, though? Like when it's like you're traveling to these different states and all these different places

and it's like, it's not 7,000 people no more. Oh, man, it feels good, but I still look at it the same. Like, if I've been getting attention from back home, I look at everybody just like family, I just keep it going. I say my hayes, smile, and keep it pushing. I don't try to, I don't think I took it all in yet. I just, I'm grinding. I'm in grind mode.

I'm chasing. So it's like I really don't feel it. You know what I just keep going. Yeah. What part of your music comes from survival versus entertainment? Say it one more time What part of your music comes from survival versus entertainment?

I can say like my deepest music come from like when I'm in that bag though like when I'm home in the studio that's when the survival music come instead of just a hit record. When you know you're chasing that hit you're chasing it but sometimes I feel like even like the baby you give that survival music of what you really feel when you home

that's why I think he stay home a lot because he really feel, you feel good. You feel like you're in that bag when you, at the crib, when you know you can be home. What was your inspiration? What made you want to dibble and dab in the rap game at first? Oh, my little brother. My little brother, really, the rap,

he was beating on the desk and all that. I just got tired of paying for studio time. He went gone. I'm steady paying for studio time. He ain't gone. I'm like, shit, I know he rapping about what we're doing. I can put it together some way. That's how it went.

I said I went. Will you ever nervous, you talk about what you were doing, where the part of South Carolina that you're from is so small where everybody knows everything. So it's not like anything is the secret. Like, oh, we know what,

we know what trap's doing over there. You know what I mean? Will you ever nervous for that? Damn right. Because it's a big city, be like, I don't know what you're doing on that side of the day. Definitely.

Every day you think it could be the day. Especially when you're young, you never know. Like, it could be the day they come. Or just come pick you up right now. You feel? So it's like you're just, you're living in a moment.

but you're still praying. Like, I say, I hope it ain't me. When was the day you decided to say, you know what, I'm giving that up? I can't lie when I really started getting to, like, being in the music, when I seen a million views and I've seen people tell me, like, bro, you really can do it.

I was really time to just sit my head down, like, for real, for real. Were you ever, like, halfway in, halfway out? You always hit the detail of when Jay said, you know what, I know, I got to let it go. Yeah, everybody, if we want to foot in and one foot out at some point. Of course, like I say, everybody around me, I've been through it.

Like, all of them have big boy charges. My mom, my husband and caught big boy charges running around. Like, it's bound to happen in South Carolina. Like you say, everybody knows everybody. The police know you, fail. We went to school with you too. I know you, you know me.

So it ain't like it's hard to do what they need to do. So it's like I say, you just gotta move respectfully and pray it ain't true when they come. I mean, shoot, right now South Carolina got, well, two of our up-and-coming talent got caught up in the system. You see what happened with Black Zach and our God Jehovah.

Yeah, that really hurt me with Black Zach and Jehovah. Shout to Jehovah. But like I say, just being around, being in South Carolina, it's easy to get caught up in the system. It ain't a lot of people there that don't know you.

Everybody know you. So one move can turn into the wrong move and it's over with. With that being said, you know, anytime I go to the Carolina, South Carolina, North Carolina, they show so much love, right? Yeah.

With you coming up, did they show you the same love? because a lot of times they'll show an out of town or more love than the person that's actually from there because they see you so much. I can't lie. I feel like Carolina going to show love to the real. Like we show love to authentic.

If we can see it, we love it. We can't just hear it and think like you the man because we can hear it and don't see you and be like, oh, we don't know you. Got you. We see you and it look real. We love you. That's exactly how to be.

You ever think about moving away from South Carolina? Oh, no, I probably moved to another city, but... Yeah, still staying in South Carolina. Yeah. You love LA. You shout out LA a lot. Oh, yeah, yeah. But it don't even be for Los Angeles.

Shout out to Los Angeles, but that's like my area. Like, that's our area, LA, Lincoln Avenue. Oh, see, I'm not confused it. I'm like, God damn, why the hell he keeps shouting out of LA. That's the street. LA gang. Now, my father's died on the other end of Lincoln Avenue Street on Butler. Okay.

I always say LA a lot, because that's where he grew up at and where he died at. We talk about Lincoln Avenue on Keep Going. We talk about how you live in life like a movie, but at the same time, you think about Lincoln Avenue. Yeah, that's what L.A. is, Lincoln Avenue. I just grew up there. That's like one of the blocks I grew up at. My pops died on the other end,

so it was like a chase. I used to always chase to get to Lincoln Avenue. I got to get there as soon as I get to Hartsville. When I get the Grandin House, I'm trying to get the Butler of Lincoln Avenue. How old are you, you 20? I'm 30 now. You're 30 now.

On the album, you said that, you know your pops is, proud of you because you just basically lived longer than him. Yeah. How old was he when he? He died at 17. Yeah, he died at 17. Like basically what I'm saying, that's Hartville, you could die so young because it's right there.

Everybody knows everybody, but like I said, he was a preacher's line. So it ain't enough. It's anybody can get into it. Anybody can get into it. But he died at 17. And you got shot before? Yeah, I got shot at 21. I got shot at 21.

I got shot in the crossfire. brother shot me in a crossfire. Oh, it was your little brother? Being in a wrong place, wrong time. Wow. What was that conversation like? It was after, right? Yeah.

Nick, you shot me. It was like, I didn't fall or nothing. So it was like a, oh, I thought a piece of the tree or something hit me or something. So it was like, I couldn't believe I got shot. What kind of gum is that you thought? The piece of the tree fell on you? Yeah, I thought it was like a little piece like, you know,

commotion. We playing basketball. Shots going down. I'm just thinking like, oh, snap. piece of tree or something. But then I realized when I looked in the mirror, like, oh, snap, I think I got shot for real. Damn.

So I didn't know just going straight to the hospital and telling them like, I got shot. And it was crossed by? Who the hell? I ain't, never mind. It don't even matter. So you said. Who was going to tell your mom

because neither one of y'all was going to tell her? Oh, yeah, I had to make the call because he made him look and I just called her. She said it on camera before. I called. like mom got shot in the face and she like for real I was like yeah I think I gotta call you back I think he wanted to ask me some questions so doggone

I don't think she started like tripping until she couldn't reach me and she was like seeing calm I'm like you better be calm I'm straight but what did she say when she found out it was her other son oh I ain't tell we didn't tell about that to afterwards it was just like my mama never worried about what we was doing she already knew what kind of kid she had I ain't the only son like I say I I don't have been charged with a bit boy charged. Her daughter had been charged with a bit boy charged.

So she already knew to these her kids. I'm going to just answer the phone without got to press one. You know what I'm saying? So she respected what we were doing. We weren't bringing no trouble to her house. So she went tripping. What's harder, making it out the streets are mentally adjusting after you get out? Mentally adjusting once you get out because you have so much fun and your homeboys be still in.

So you've got to really mental adjuster. No, I got to leave. Like, you really like, you got to get in your mind. mind said like, damn, I really can't be here no more. Like, no matter how fun it is, you'd be like, damn, I really got to leave. So that thing, mentally justice is way harder than being, like, being in the streets or anything. But you say you're not leaving, no. No, I'm, I don't left the streets, nah.

Oh, no, I know, I know, I know. But you're just still being in the same area. Oh, yeah, in Carolina. Yeah, like, I ain't going to say I stay in Hartsville. You know, I've moved third of me. You know how it is in town to town. I can move in another town, gaited a community where the police patrols. that all that's what it is.

All I did move 30 minutes away. Right. Do you think audiences can tell the difference between somebody who really lived it and somebody who just pretended that have been through time? Yeah, right. They stare away for people

that they feel like really live it because that's what they feel like. Somebody that they really feel on that type of time and are really on that. Yeah, all right, they stay away from that. But I would if I know I'm not on what they own. I'm not going to go around

the people that I feel like on that peripheral. I'm gonna stay away from that. Now, you got seven kids? Yeah. Woo! You're gonna stay working for a long time. Dirk, back, four-wheelers, all that. Man.

Where old is your oldest? Nine. And youngest? Three. Oh, wow. Congratulations. It's a small town. It's not much to be.

Don't judge them too harshly. I was about next to how many B-Mahas you got? Oh. Oh, okay. Then they all from... They all know each other too? Definitely, definitely, definitely. They all went to high school together.

They don't want to high school together. Are they friends? Like, they're cool? Three are cool. Okay. One on just like, no, I'm by myself. I don't really know. Is that the last one or the first one?

That's the last one. All right. All right. All right. All right. They're great. Mine's going to give me a book right now. I just wrote a book to death of you parent.

That's about how me and my son, I mean, me and my son's father raised our son or whatever. And he got five baby moms, you know, five kids or whatever. And he said I'm the only one He really, really cool with But, you know, it's just working through That's because he still be doing his thing You know, some time No, that one thing by me

I don't dip and down, though Like, I don't dip and down, my baby mom was down on trip. They're respectful, they tell me one thing, one thing only Take care of the kids. You remember, they ain't tripped. They knew who I was before and it ain't like.

All my baby mama's plan to have a child with me so stuff happened. Right. We in Carolina, we keep it. on. I'll make sure my kids know me. Try not to treat no one better than the other.

I don't know why parents be lying about the favorite stuff, though. Yeah. You got a favorite. You got a favorite, no. You got one? Damn right, I got a favorite. Don't say it, man.

You got a favorite. They know they be getting mad at me saying I treat them different. Your favorite don't change by the day or the situation because I've heard that too. I'd be getting mad when he'd be changed. I'd be like, you can't be the favorite

acting like this. Like, I know exactly what he means. You can't be the favorite acting like this, man. You can't act like the favorite will let you down the most because you're like, you're my favorite for a reason. So don't start switching up on me. Don't start switching up on me. But they gotta be kids, man.

Have the demands change from the, from the baby mothers now that you, you know. Oh, yeah, definitely. Like, I always was big on the shoes. Like, I'll go crazy on shoes. I never used to get the shoes when I was young. So when I get the shoes, I go crazy. So they be on that,

nigga, stop buying the shoes, do something else. Like, you buying all these shoes, we can't match no clothes with the shoes. So I'd be having to really go handpick outfits and stuff. Now, that shit aggravated. I can't get jiggy with it. I don't pick my own clothes out.

I can't sit here and pick out each outfit. I'd be having to send somebody to get the clothes. That's the only thing I hate. They really make me pick clothes up. Damn. How are you? Oh, my man. I was going to ask how you balancing your time with the workflow now and in the kids.

If I wouldn't be here, I'm back in Carolina. I ain't going nowhere. They're right there. Like, man, I love going home to mine. They'll tell you, boss may I'll tell you, if you ain't got no work for me, I'm going home. I got kids. You feel, me? Right after this, I got a baseball game to go catch me.

Yeah, that's what I'm saying. I really, I like my kids. They're cool. I like my kids. Like for real, they're mine, so it'd be crazy I get to see them grow up. I like my kids. They're cool.

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I don't know. I know they get special privileges. They call me while they at school. FaceTime. FaceTime. Hey, it's my dad. FaceTime. FaceTime.

Teachers. Hey, son, what's up? What? What? Yeah. I know that they, we in Carolina, it's small. Everybody knows, but the teachers know me, everybody knows. Everybody knows Trap Dickie.

So it's like, it's a blessing when I know I ain't had my pops. Now, I live my grandparents. Like the most ass-wuppance, you know what I'm saying? Over and over, so it'd be a blessing they get the little courtesy that I get, didn't get. You ever think about adding to your black, four more houses, baby mom number one, number two, number three, number four. So your kids can be, you know. Nah, I said, I'm going to get cars for them. Before I get houses, I can't get houses.

houses for y'all do everything. You get cars I can ride around. At least you can go. Nah, get the house if you can. I mean, get the house. Because it appreciating value more than the car. And then anything, put it in your kid's name. You know, to see, when I listen.

I told my brother, after a certain age, we're going to put these houses that we got in the kids' name. My mom already on that. I don't think I'm going to buy no more for them, though. I'm going to just do what I had playing. The houses that we already had, I was like, you know, a certain time we got to put these in the little guys name. What's something you think people glamorize about street life

that you know firsthand is actually miserable? Backdow. I feel like these niggas pushing the back door right now. I don't know. I never been with the backdoe. I feel like back in my days, the OG is just to, if you did something to your friend, you got in trouble for it if you ain't had no right reason.

I feel like people pushing the back door right now. And I don't know. I ain't never got with the back door. Explain to the back door. Explain what the back door is. Like, basically robbing your partner. Like, people getting high off the drug, they robbing their partners now.

Slobbing their partner, he might leave a gun. They're taking his gun, taking his jury. Or whatever, you can't leave your jury around your homeboys and stuff now. And it's crazy. A rapper's robbing another rapper.

It's like, now, it's crazy. I ain't want to be in no situation like that, though. Like, going to the studio with another rapper and you've got to worry about making it out in the studio. Yeah, yeah.

It's like, damn. It ain't used to be like the own thing Buster Rines and them had to go through that. There was a level of loyalty, basically. Yeah, basically, you feel like, it was a bunch of them in a studio and everybody rocking out. Like, people got to take security to the studio. Yeah.

Did your circle get smaller once you got the fame started being on the rise? I always had a small circle. I always had family. Like, I'm proud to see more people come around. So many people didn't want to be around. So it's a blessing to see guys take that chance to even be around.

We always had a small circle, so I appreciate all the love that do come around. My grandma went playing that shit. You couldn't come out of her house after a certain time, so my friends knew I met you at school after school it over with, my boy. Dreamville Fest was your first festival. That is a huge first, like, festival stage

to be on, especially because it's, you know, the Carolina love. Talk about the experience and even get into the stage, like how it all happened. Oh, man, I'm from theville, so to be at Dreamville, you already know, we hear Dreamville, we don't even feel like we got enough money to go to Dreamville. And we're from theville, so it was like, me being on that stage was crazy. My first time performing that festival, I'm like, Dreamville. I'm like, man. I'm trying to take extra hooddies and all they're giving me and all.

I'm trying to take this back home to the people. Like, they're giving me hoodies. It was a blessing to be at Dreamville and the Sea Cold. It was like, oh, this nigga, Joe. walk around. So to see him just walk around made me feel even more like motivated. Like, oh, you can be the big dog of this and you still can walk around and act like it's all normal when it ain't normal. They're like, man, that's how I'm trying to be. And how's your relationship with the baby? How did you and your baby get a good relationship? Oh, man, a blessing, just embossing.

Like, really on following up something DC Youngfly said, just embossed him. And he responded, like saying he already knew who I was. It was go time. It was go time. He could. He came to the city and all. Really? Yeah, he pulled out the cars and all that. You shot the video. Yeah, he's a real one. The baby is a real guy.

He's not a real one. He did the Blue Devils remit. Yeah, he did the Blue Devil remix with me, man. He was a real one. And like I say, he came down and brought his family. Not only that, invited me to a Carolina Panthers game. I got the chill, like, really around his mom and family. Like, he really brought me in.

That's dope. Do you think South Carolina artists still have a chip on their shoulder because the industry overlooks the state so much? Yeah, I feel like a lot of people from South Carolina, like I feel like they don't look at it. That's how I look at it. But it's because we see everybody come through here. I feel like we, I feel like we paid enough to get that attention, though.

We don't pay everybody, every artist. We don't bought everybody change for them. Like, y'all come through, we pay good, whatever you need. We pay it. The promoters pay good. I don't see no other stuff. state booking artists like the Carolina. Nowhere.

And nowhere, nobody's bragging about no other state like the Carolinas. No other promoters like Tim Balls. Like we really pay good. So I feel like we should get a bunch of attention if we're the reason a lot of people first sold out shows and concerts be in our backyard. First six-figure bag. You get your first 10,000 or 40,000 in the Carolinas? Why should it?

Wouldn't we be promoted like that? I feel like we should get a lot of time, like, to be soft. Because we really put in that work. We pay good. And, you know, do you feel like you had to build your career without an industry blueprint? Because there's no blueprint for an artist from South Carolina. Yeah, definitely.

Just grinding. I can't say without the industry blueprint because I kind of followed the say cheese. and I tried to do all that. I even pay academics one time. So it was like, I think I went through the little blueprint, but it just cost it so damn much. Would you pay them to pull something?

Yeah, like, damn right. You had to just paying, like, once you want to be up there, and they say $2,000. You're like, damn, I got to pay it to get up there. I want the world to see me. So it's like, I ain't going to say I didn't follow the blueprint because I definitely was paying promotion page that I seen. I felt like the labels was.

paying for these guys, so I can't say I ain't follow the blueprint. Because there was a time where it's like there wasn't enough artists from South Carolina utilizing the internet. Like the person that I saw who really utilized the internet and took off, God bless the day was speaker knocker. Yeah. Knock was, he had it. Yeah, he definitely did.

He took it to another level, though. And he was on a different type of level of music. Like he was bringing more than just hip-hop. Like you could tell he was pop more. more people was really, they really liked the speaking market too. And I don't think a lot of people knew he was from Carolina at first. I literally didn't, too. You see what I'm saying?

A lot of people didn't know he was from Carolina. It's a difference when you coming from Carolina, and you're letting the world know like, oh, no, I'm from Carolina. I'm going to go ahead and kill all the, you feel me, how you feel right now. Because I'm saying, that's where I'm from. That was my goal. I'm going to let you know I'm from Carolina. So if you don't know nobody from Carolina,

you know I'm from Carolina. The funny thing about South Carolina, though, a Hartsfield dude is totally different from a Columbia dude, totally different from a Charleston dude. They don't understand. I'd be trying to tell him. I'd be trying to tell them. We were just talking about that.

Like, you can be from Charleston. You're two, three hours away from me. You don't talk like me. You don't sound like me. You don't even act like me. It sounds like a whole different language. Then you go over. Over here in Columbia, they more feel like they feel like they're the biggest in the area.

And then you go down to Myrtle Beach, but they feel like they're the littest in the area. And then you got my area where we feel like we're just the country is. Like we feel like we got a lot of stuff going on, but all we got, like you said, the drag script, the racetrack. There's so many places in Carolina where they act totally different. And it's four hours, three hours away. We never get to see any guy. How far is where he's from from where he's from again?

Mont's Corner at Harsville. About two. About two hours on GPS. So what's the difference between where Munk's Corner and Hartz? They got a Gucci accent a little bit. A little bit. But I would say Mons Corner is closer to what. No, Harsville is closer to what Mons Corner used to be back in the day.

Okay. Because when I was growing up, it was only the population. It was like 6,000, 7,000 people, a couple of fast food restaurants. But now Monskorn's boom. grew. Yeah, boom and booming. When you hear Marks Corner from us, we're thinking like you're going to Charleston.

Like you're going down 95. You're going to drive somewhere. If you're going through Muskoan, you're even going to Florida. You're going to Charleston because you're going to get on 95. What part of the Succulane experience do you think hip-hop still hasn't properly captured and you want to bring to the leg?

I feel like Trim is doing a great job bringing the culture to it because I feel like they don't see that we really got different accents in Carolina. I'm bringing more of a southern soul something like 803 fresh. And Trem is bringing the culture.

Like you hear it in her voice. You hear it. It's like a different sound. So I feel like it ain't no missing scene right now. It's coming real soon. But how can I say it? It's different. We bring a different culture,

but I feel like Trim going to do that. I feel like I'm just authentic. Well, Trump is different for Trim because Trim from Charleston. Yeah. To me, that's South Carolina. That Ghi Gullah is, that culture is really the essence of South Carolina. You got to think that's what we can't. What an international African-American museum is,

I think they say close to 60% of all enslaved Africans came through that point. So so much of the black experience in America started right there. Yeah, slavery. Slavery. That's why I feel like all along was just. dropped off. That's why I feel like that culture still there, the sound still, the people really sound like, you would think

that's a whole, no disrespect, like, you would think that's a whole, like, African the way they talk. Or I don't know, took some people from Charleston to Atlanta, they asked me, is that my British partner. Wow. Because the lingo's so different, but they really from South Carolina.

I didn't know that until I started working here. Bigici? Yeah, I had no idea. It sound Caribbean to me. It sounds really West Indian to me. It would be like, Crazy how people, they live two hours away from us, but it sounds so different. I barely can understand. They barely can understand me. Right, right.

I say over there. They say something else. You ain't even going to try to say it. How they say it. You say over there. And I say over there. And I say bow. They don't say bow or a lot.

What's that? Bo what is that? Bo. Like what's up? Oh, okay. They say bro or some people say because. Bro. They say both.

When you go back on, do people treat you like inspiration or like an escape plan? inspiration. I think they'd be scared to try to treat me like an escape plan. A lot of people, like I say back home, they know exactly where I am, so it'll be more inspiration. I feel like they love to see me. They love to see me. It'd be crazy to see me because I really don't be outside. I ain't a clubber. I ain't in the club. I ain't at the gas station chilling. So when they see me and they see me by myself or something, they be happy as hell just to see me. I'm still around. They definitely be on that. Like I My grandma was on my head bad, so I don't play around.

My grandma went playing that shit. She said discipline you heavy? Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. I don't need to see why they'd be tripping by all the other parents when I know. I know. I got it. If Young Trap Dickie could see your life now, what would shock him the more?

Oh, keep going. That's crazy. I kept going. That's crazy. Like, if I could see myself like, damn, boy, you really kept going. You really kept going. And you ain't, you ain't cares no big. boy time. You kept going. Like, you really, you did it. Like, you stayed out the way.

You stayed out the way long enough to make it to the breakfast club. I can't remember what song it is on the album is when you keep talking about you, your mama's oldest son. It's like you really sound surprised to still be here. Like I said, man, why I'm from? You don't, I got so many potters that I've seen died 1821 or kids' life. Like, a lot to my real life sentence, you ain't coming home. You feel what I'm saying? Like I said, my dad died at 17, so that was a goal. I'm chasing, like, I gotta make it past 17.

Like, that was my main goal. If I could make it there, I know I did what I was supposed to. I know my granny did what she was supposed to. It was like, once I made it there, it was like, damn, I ain't think about making it to 60 and 70. Like, you've got a whole life to live. So, like, once you accomplish your goals, you really got to set more goals in life.

So it was like, that was, it's crazy to me to see a lot of my partners a homeboy's lose their partners at 21, 18, 19 and to still be here when I know I'm a product of exactly what they're a product of But now you feel free of that feeling

or does it still sit with you And sometimes I'm old, I'm up there now So it's a blessing 30, cut it up No, I'm just saying I'm glad That's 25 they say you're OG where we're from So when you're making a 30

Then you aunt basically You feel I'm saying? It's like It's like, damn, I made a grandpa. You're older than me. Just that means we're not. That's he said in South Carolina. That means I'm on T.

That means I'm on T. Capital A. Because like, yeah. Listen, like, I feel good to be here. I feel good to say I made it from where I made it from. Like, I know my grandma and I'm happy to say that. My grandma was my grandma at a young age, you feel. Yeah.

To see me doing what I'm doing, I know everybody be happy and turned up for real, for real. What's the loneliest, oh, go? Who's some artists that you want to work? But I saw that you said not too long ago you wanted to work with OutKet. I'm still trying to get it. Man, I don't care if my boy played the flute. I don't care if the boy come through.

Like, I just need them on the credits. Like, I just want to be in the studio and hear him, like, there's some old stores or tell me to see how they cook up. I want to see how they do it. Like, for real, for real. Well, get in line. That's a long line. I just heard to you.

I say the same thing. You need an outcast picture. That's, man. I'm just trying to work. I like working with the legend. Like, see how they did it from back in the day, seeing the same. That's dope.

Feel, feel. Still some game and hopefully it'll rub off and I can easily get one of the trophies. Do you feel pressure being on TDE? Because I mean, they got a legacy of some phenomenal artists. Do you feel? No. I'm hoping they slip and leave me some little knowledge that I can take with me. Like, you feel me?

I hope I'm catching the studio session so I can hear how they did this and did that. You feel me? Ask me by the pointer. Yeah, yeah, I get your point. I get credit for the Grammy, too. Yeah, yeah. I'm trying to learn. I'm a big learner, you feel, I don't care about being first or whatever.

I always say, I could be number two. That means I'm the shit. I know that. I ain't tripping. A lot of people are looking to see what exactly Trapped Dickie is going to do with TDE, because TDE's never had an artist like a Trapped Dickie. Oh, yeah, I'm bringing the South to it. You know what I'm bringing the South, to the West Side, basically.

You know, man, I'm still rapping the South. I ain't changed. I'm just going to have fun. I'm going to do what I do and they're going to see something real, authentic. I ain't got a lot about nothing. Everything authentic, the story there.

I still can go back home. It ain't no other side for me. I have fun when I go home. So don't think he's switching up when you hear the aisle and you keep seeing L.A. gang. LA gang. Oh, no, don't.

I'm Uncle L. Roy now. I'm Uncle L. Roy. I'm Uncle L. Roy now. Well, let's get into a joint off time. What do you want to hear? Oh, man. We can play anything. I love the album.

Actually, we could start it off with one of the biggest records in the world down south. I'm going to start off just like that. With Key Glock. Yeah, with Key Glock featuring Key Gleck. How'd that collab come about? Running in New York, running around here.

Like, I actually seeing him and Icewear Vizo in an elevator. The first thing I thought about, you know, elevator with Tupac. So it was like being in an elevator with... Hell, you was thinking about that for us. It was so small. Like, you know, you're just coming in,

I'm in an elevator with Iswell Vizzo, and we basically touching the show. This man don't know me. I don't know I don't know him, but it's like, we both on celebrity status. We both end up in an elevator touching elbows and shoulders. Did you all know each other? Did you know? You introduced yourself?

Like, hey, man. Yeah, no, I just told you the first thing I think about the Tupac. Man, why? I'm like, you're trying to rob me. No, I'm thinking he got jury on. I ain't got no jury on. I look like the robber. Oh, you look like the lid.

Yeah, you look like you about to do the leg. I'm saying. I don't want to talk right now. You probably don't want to talk. He's gonna talk, we're rubbing elbows. Yeah. I see we got it. We're supposed to say, hey, man, what's up?

Man, listen, I'm gonna put in a elevator. Nah, I don't know. I don't know. This is a- Right. From New York. Listen, he didn't know that. Now, you did it right there.

Don't do no talking. No, we don't listen to him. Yes, he did. Ain't nothing wrong. Because you can. I got all right. You come in there looking like that, I'm like, oh, he's about to get me. Right.

He about to get me. I'm telling my man, yo, watch him. Well, he's going to think. I was like, listen, this probably ain't the time. We like this, this ain't the time. Hey, how you doing on track dicky? Like, this shit is the time. You feel?

Lazy eye? No, I'm not fin to talk. I can catch you on the good day. No, you know. I can't get into. I'm not going to have to be the first thing I thought. But you're in Glock connected, though. Oh yeah.

See, that was more open space. You feel like I could move my elbows. Hey, you're doing, Glock. What's up? You feel, man. And then I had a little story, you know, I kind of, hey, what's up? I don't seen you before.

This is my first time seeing your elbows touching. Yeah. This ain't the right time. I tell you. I got to ask about the Big X plug, Big X connection too then. How did you connect with Big X? You know, small other big one. No, but actually just listening to music from Dallas,

when his partners actually told me about him. So I actually was trying to link, I had got the Big X record way before he kind of took off. Yeah, so me and H been locked there. Me and ex-been-in-a-old. I actually went to his birthday badge, all the ex-was, telling him I could pull up everywhere. So I actually got to meet him and his family to see his pops with him to see. I'm like, dad, the dude just like me, he got his dad, he got his people, he got his own family with him.

He's chilling, like Big Ed's really having his way. And I'm proud of him to say he's doing what he's doing, you're having fun with it. I have your pops on the stage, your mom on the stage, your cousin. You've got to be having fun, you know what I'm saying? So I appreciate him for everything he did too, for real, for real. Well, you're about to have some fun, too, Trap. That's right. Keep growing, brother.

The Ville is out today. Make sure you go pick it up. And it's the breakfast club. It's trapped. Nicky. Oh, no. Every day I wake up. Wake your ass up.

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