The Breakfast Club - INTERVIEW: Trevor Jackson Talks ‘I Love You Goodbye,' New Album & EP’s; Grey's Anatomy, Puma Deal +More

Episode Date: September 26, 2025

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but he got an EP coming out on October 3rd, because I love you. Let's go. Trevor Jackson is here. What's happening to my brother? Good to see you, man. I'm happy to be here. Good morning, good morning.

How are you feeling? Do you want to talk about acting or singing? Let's talk about both. Whatever you want to talk about first. I'm open to. I'm absolutely loving this EP. Thank you. It's different.

I really appreciate that. It's different. It has like a soundtrack vibe. Yeah. Like a love, mom, come. I love that, and I did not, I don't know why, I hope this doesn't think, I didn't expect that coming from me, but like, what genre would you classify this EP? I would like to be genreless. That's kind of like my goal when I make anything in life.

I try not to be in any type of box. I always want to represent like freedom, freedom of creativity, freedom of, you know, who you are. So, yeah, and the thing about this album is because it was so personal to me, everything that came out just came out. There was no like, hey, I want to make a song that's acoustic or I want to make a song that talks about this. It was like I was going through a very, very hard time. I was in a very low space, and I just started vomiting, you know, records. And I think that's how you get the best stuff. Like when I was talking to my dad, my dad was like,

I'm sorry that you're in this much pain, son, but this is your opus. You know what I'm saying? This is the best shit you've ever made. Sorry, can we cuss? Yeah, yeah, yeah. But he's like, this is the best stuff you've ever made. And I was just like, yeah. And I was like, it sucks.

I had to go through that. But, yeah, I'm thankful for the outlet. I feel like I would explode if I didn't have these things in my life. What do you call yourself? Is it a multi-hybrid? I like that. You might just coin that, multi-hybrid. I like to say artists, you know, I was even playing around with the idea of just a capture

of moments, you know, whether I'm making a song or I'm on set, I'm capturing a moment in time. Because I've been helped by so many artists throughout my life and just athletes or whoever, and I always want to be that for someone. So like this album in particular, this EP, anybody who's been through a breakup can relate to at least one song on these projects. And that's why I made it. Because when I go through a hard time, I put on a good movie.

I'm out of my funk or I put on a good song and I'm out of my funk and I feel like I'm not alone anymore because someone feels the same way as me and you know so I like before you walked in just was like he's by and I'm like no that's not what you call it he's by hybrid you can sing and act doesn't be you don't call it that you don't call it that you know you're such an idiot I meant like you know the music and the act but that's not what you call it is what I'm telling you what did you call it again multi hybrid multi hybrid you don't keeping that It was going to be multi-hybrid. So this song, so you really went through this breakup

or this like relationship situation that you're singing about. Yes. How long did it take for you to get to the point where you realized that it just wasn't going to work out? She wasn't going to put both feet in. Well, she broke up with me, which is okay, you know what I'm saying? And we just weren't right for each other. And I'm the type of person, like, I don't care how bad it's going.

Like I made the, I'm just like trying to hold on, you know? I want it. I want it so bad. But I'm so thankful. God does the hard work for me, right? Because I would have never left. You feel me? I would have stayed.

And so obviously. I went through a lot of it. So the crazy thing about this music, guys, after she broke up with me two weeks after I tore my Achilles. Then I had to shoot a TV show with the boot on. Then I had to do toward it. Like I was going through so much. That's what one foot in came from?

It should have. It should have. It should have. It should have. But yeah, no, I, um, yeah, I was in a really, really low spot, but I think, um, again, that's why I wanted to do this because I think black men in general, journaling, talking about it, I want people to process and then be like a lighthouse for somebody else

instead of internalizing and I felt like that was this album for me. I had just probably started going to therapy a few years before the breakup and I love journaling. I love talking to therapists and that's what the music is for me you know, I'm just like right? But then I come back and listen to him like this is a fucking smash. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

So even when you go back and you listen to the EP, right? Yeah. You don't break down at all. No, I'm hat but that's why I do what I do and like people are like oh you're trying to be famous, you I'm like, no, I'm surviving. That's why I make music. That's why even I go to set, I tell people there's stories where I had to do a scene,

and this was another breakup. I, like, had broken up with someone, and then the next day I get to set and the scene is a breakup scene, and I just used everything. Boom, boom, boom. Everybody's like, oh, my God, that performance. I'm like, meanwhile, y'all know, I really just. This is my life. Yeah, but, again, I'm thankful for the outlets, man.

They saved me for sure. How many times did y'all break up before y'all really broke up? Maybe like two, three. Yeah, two, three. But, yeah, I'm in a good place now. I'm really, really thankful. You know, like I said, God does the hardest part. But, again, I would tear my Achilles.

I get broken up with a million times over to feel how I feel now. I'm glad that you started going to. I would do it a billion times. How helpful was, you know, you going to therapy prior? How did that, like, I guess, lessen the blow? It's super helpful. I think it's the talking about it. I think my whole life, most men, you know, it's like, I'm fine.

Even when I talk to my homies, excuse me, that write and do music, when I was telling him about the album, And they were like, dude, man, you can't, you can't, you can't, write all this stuff. It's too emotional. No, you need to go into the club, right? That's how most guys handle their stuff. I'm like, I'm sad. I'm going to go following something, and I'm going to try and forget about it.

What you say? What did you say? I'm going to go be cool outside and I'm going to have some food at some. And hopefully feel better about it. You feel what I'm saying? Right, right. But that's how most people do with this. So that's why this album is really special because I think people should see someone like me

expressing these types of feelings and just be. being honest, and I feel way lighter afterwards, you know. What did you learn about yourself? In relationships after your therapy, after doing, I love you. What I learned about myself? Oh, man. I deserve more. Honestly.

I felt like it's, you know, we all are successful in what we do. And sometimes you feel like a shame for it. And you feel like whoever you're with, especially if they're not on that level that they get, they get to beat you down more because you can unquote take it or because you have more even when you break up you know people are going to the girl like oh my god are you okay like yeah you know and the guy just like you know and i was torn you know i was a mess but um yeah i think i learned too in relationships that i deserve more you know what i'm saying and uh yeah there's a lot that's a long list but i learn how do you fear being alone because uh because on one foot in you say catch a batty by the toe

if you love or let it go but it's hard when you need You need somebody. We are a couple creatures, man. We're supposed to be with somebody. Not necessarily true. But, I mean, I think it's the natural order of things. But definitely, dude. I definitely had issues.

You know, I slept in my big brother's room until, you know, I was like 14, 15, because I just hated sleeping in the dark, being on myself. Like, I always wanted somebody to let me. And also just being alive, guys, we're on Earth in the middle of space. Okay, it's hard to be like, you're like, what is this? So it helps when you have somebody sharing that? experience close to you but absolutely I feel like I've done that a bunch I've you know done some crazy things just to not be alone but I'm learning now that

the right person to will encourage that of you you know you need some space you need some mm-hmm you know what's that mean like did you sleep with a teddy bed after you know after you stop no but I'm a TV guy TV I have to have a TV on I can't fall asleep my mind is too loud my mind is way louder than any TV any music like so when it's when it's dark and it's quiet it's just you know You don't meditate? Thank you. Huh?

You don't meditate? I should more. But I do meditate. But I just don't do it as often as I should. I'm doing this thing now where I look up like 48 or what's the hurts that's good for the Oh yeah. The frequency. Yeah, it's about play like on Apple Music or I'll put on some like meditation morning music or just relaxing because I'm going to go.

So when you say when you sit in the quiet and your thoughts are too loud, what are those thoughts like that? You're not doing enough. do more. You should have done this. Hey, when are you going to finish that script? You said you was going to write. Hey, you have to shoot tomorrow. Are you going to kill that? Are you going to do good? So you can't even go to sleep. Yeah, it's hard. It's really hard.

Yeah, it's just, you know. And then again, why am I here? What am I supposed to do? Am I doing the right thing? And I always lean on love. That's why everything I made is make in life kind of revolves around that, especially musically. Because that's the only thing that I can keep going with. It's like, I love my family. Yeah.

I love God. I love people, even random strangers. I meet like I'll have a better day if I just go out and see somebody behind the cash register and they're like hey have a good day I'm like that's what it's about right like we should just be cool to each other yeah where does that those pressures uh that make your mind so loud come from is it because you've been doing this since you were younger and you've been successful is it that that that chase or is it just you feel like you got a lot to do I feel like I got a lot to do um even when I was young I didn't feel like too much

um I don't feel a lot of pressure I don't think you find you get pressure until you realize the why right Like I knew what I wanted No, I'm agreeing with you I understand the feeling Yeah, I knew what I wanted to do I was like I want everybody in the world to know me I want to be famous I want to dance, I want to sing

I want to be on stage And then I got to the point I was like why Oh, I'm carrying something And it's bigger than myself And I think that's when the pressure And the brain is like, yo You know, and then my kids

Which I don't have But I put a lot of pressure on myself To have answers for them I was gonna say travel where the hell You get kids from? Okay, all right But even if I You know what I'm saying

Even if I don't have them, I just want to be able to have, even if I don't have the answers for them, I want to give them something, you know, that. So I put a lot of pressure on myself for that too. I just want to be a good dad. I want to be a good husband and, like, you know, get it right. How old are you? 20, just turned 29. Okay.

My baby. You said that like it's old. My knees, my back. You do realize that there's never probably going to be a time when you haven't figured off. Yeah. So there's no need to beat yourself up. Like, you know, give yourself grace.

Like, you know, every new year is a journey. Literally, every new day is a journey. So it's good to be on this path of self-discovery and just trying to figure out, you know, what works for you. Don't beat yourself up about it. Thank you, man. Not knowing or where you feel like you're supposed to be because you really don't even know who you are.

Right. Like, you act, you sing. And that might not even be what you're even here to do. Yeah. You have no idea. Like, congratulations on Gray's Anatomy. That is big. Thank you.

I love Raised Anatomy. How did that happen? that was crazy so I didn't even think I auditioned you know I think I had a few auditions about week they were just like on you know recording what's like why can I think of the name sitting in the tapes whatever and it was just a quick like audition and I was like oh this is a dope and I really thought that they weren't going to call me back it was like maybe a few weeks maybe a month after so I had forgotten about it and they're like oh yeah the grace name of they went you I was like what that's dope and it's funny because when I'm doing one I'm itching

and do the other thing so I'll be on set I'm like man I can't wait to make a song and then when I was on tour I got off tour and I was like man I want to be back on you know because I was on growners for six years six and a half years and I had missed being on set and now this is one of those things in life I feel like we all get to a point where it just feels like monotonous is like here's another day but when I get to go and be a little bit nervous about something or have a little bit of like anxiousness um and I'm just learning so much you know like as an actor and as a doctor not about a real doctor but they do they have real doctors on set that are always just like hey this is how you pick this up you would never hold this like this you know what I mean your hands don't go below your waist and operating like a whole bunch of things that I had no idea about and um and the set is just sick dude everybody's sweet everybody's nice embracing encouraging and that's the kind of environment you want to work in for made you nervous about it um it's a legendary show you know 22 22 years and a lot of big actors came off of that show and they are still on that show um and i think too it's the it's the extra element of being a doctor and i've never been to school for any type of thing doctor so that's

kind of like where the nerves are it's like although i'm acting naturally like would a doctor sit His hand, like, you know, I'm just trying to, like, that type of stuff. But it's dope. I'm trying to just be as comfortable as I can be. We have to fight the older white women off with a stick. It's fun, though. The live coat, if it's something different, when you put a live coat on, you got the, what's it called, the dog?

I should know this. The stethoscope. The stethoscope. Yeah. Oh, that's why he was nervous. He don't even know what that's stuff. I'm like, where's this script? Show me the word, and how to pronounce that?

Yeah. Is Shonda rhymes on set at all? She is not. I have not married, but all her people are on her team. That's right. But everybody's dope. Yeah, I'm excited. It's a great, great job.

And now you're going to be a regular on there. Let's go! That's amazing, Tread. I'm stoked, man. I'm stoked. Yeah. Honestly, I came at the perfect time. Mm-hmm.

Yeah. And you called a new EP, I love you. I love you. It's the beginning of a series. Yeah. Right? We're in the beginning stages, and obviously there'll be more stuff and it'll all come together. It makes sense.

But this is the first little, you know, dipping the tone in the pool. Just kind of, even like what you were saying, the new sound. Yeah. I want people to really. really, you know, rediscover me again in that way because I think I'm making music from such a real place. And Ed Shearing is a huge

inspiration of mine. Again, I wasn't making this to sound like that, but a lot of people hear the music like, it's like, it's good. That's, that's the vibe, that's the energy. And it takes records like that and songs like that. You know, that guy can be in a stadium standing by himself with the guitar. Doesn't need

dancers, doesn't need lights because the music is so real. And that's kind of what I was after. I just saw him this weekend. For real? He performed at the IHaw Festival. I mean, I've been to a lot of concerts in my life, but he performed at the IHaw Festival. And you're absolutely right. And he makes these records that just like,

if you are in love with an individual, like perfect, the shape of you. It's just like these ballads. What was the wedding song that everybody love? Honey, I swear. Yeah, you know, that's a 17. Yes. Blank it out loud.

Oh, my God. Blanky, you never know the song titles. He did not sing. I like Ozzy's arm a lot, too. The new John he did. I like Ozzy's on. He's cold, bro. He did put out a new album.

Yeah. He dropped the new album. Was that play or something? He's cold. What do you? Oh, I'm sorry, go ahead. I was going to ask, what do you think it'll take for people to, like, really, I guess not,

because you said you're in a rediscovery mode with your music and your sound. The music is so good, but I feel like people don't know that it's there. Yeah. What do you think it will take for people to get it? Consistent quality. And that's all I've been. I mean, if people go back and listen to all my records, like, and I hope that people do.

There is just intention and there's quality and the music and I think, you know, I can't concern myself with others. You know, I just got to continue to make the best stuff I can and people catch on when they're supposed to and if they're not or not. But I make music for me first. And so

that's how, yeah. A lot of your covers have been going viral and then get picked up a lot. Yeah. Do you feel like the covers have been helping you in this rediscovery phase or the traditional marketing of music that like labels and stuff do? Like, what has helped you best? I think that.

So I'm glad you brought that up because my brother kind of like twisted my arm to do the T-mixes, right? The remixes that I do, I didn't want to do them. I was like, I worked too hard. I've worked too hard to just put free music out and actually spend the amount of time I do to make those. Like, I don't just BS them.

Like, I try to make the best verse I can. And you do. Sing the best I can. You know what I mean? Yeah, right. And so I was like, I'm giving this for free. This is me. This is all of me.

And my brother was like, Trevor, do you think you'll ever not be able to write a song? And I was like, no, he's like, do the team mixes, bro. He's like, you're going to have millions of new ideas. You're going to be fine. He's like, but you need to let everybody know that you're on these people's level, if not better than all these people. So do it.

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I can see how he's like, yo, just put it out there. But sometimes I'd be listening, I'd be like, now this run could have went on a Trevor Jackson song and not the cover. But you know what? Yo, your voice is just. Thank you so much. Undeniable.

I really appreciate that. And so I want to know, what are some of your influences? Brian McKnight, Gary LaVoe, Stevie, Donnie Hathaway Boys to Men Oh, we got to talk about that Sean Stockman and Juan Ye from Boys to Men Those are also like people who affirmed me

And I was like, okay, I don't need to prove myself These two guys I was like almost crying when I first met them here at the BMI Awards I was like you guys don't understand I started getting emotional and they were like Is this guy like a lot of people think I'd BS because I'm like an actor or something like I'm fake

I'm like bro I don't think you understand Like I listened to you my whole life bro I sat for hours trying to riff like you. And he was like, I just want to let you know you're doing us proud, man. You're doing us proud. Everything you do, we see it. It's incredible. And don't let nobody tell you, man.

You're carrying a torch for us. All this stuff. And I'm just like, what? And I was sitting here and doubt myself where I got here like Trevor. They weren't talking about music. They were probably talking about acting. Now, why would you come up? You're just a baldhead clown.

Because why would you say that he's going to talk about music? And how he almost cried. What? Maybe they're music artists. Maybe they're not. They had been in no movies. No, I'm saying. But they probably meant just as a black man.

You're like, man. You're carrying a torch. You like what you're doing. We're representing us well. We'll call them up. We'll ask them well. Did they specifically say music when they were talking to you? Yes.

It was clearly about music. They were talking about my music and my team mixes and vocally just... Oh, well, you ain't get to that part. He literally said it all. Started with that. Started with that. Started with that. Yeah, yeah.

Okay. Yeah. But when I had their stamp of approval, I stopped down to myself in that way. Yeah, man. I'm going hard. That's good, because I'd be wondering how many many people know Trevor Jackson actually does music. Yeah, because even if they see you doing covers,

it's like, okay, he might just be playing or whatever. But yeah, that's why I think music like this though, I don't think you can just play around and make these types of songs that I'm about to put out. They're very, very personal and connected, you know what I mean? That was my point with when I watched the one for N video, I'm like, yo, he really, he's an artist. Thank you so much.

I appreciate that. People don't know that. Yeah. Even those clothes, sorry to interrupt you, but even those clothes on that video you're talking about, like I want to represent, uh, I want to represent, uh, you know, poets from a time that couldn't wear those garments. Black, black poets, yeah. Langston Hughes and Robert Frost, Edgar Allan Poe.

I know those aren't two black poets, but I'm just saying, poetry in general is something that I think is so powerful. Words are so powerful. I want to be remembered like those people. I want to be like Shakespeare's, and people go back a million years and be like, did you hear this song?

He wrote about the, you know what I mean? And just be able to connect because I think the biggest misconception in life is that we're separate from each other. You know, I think we're all, we all go through the same stuff maybe in different here and there, but it's the same. And when you have these guidelines or these, like, I call my check marks in life, you're like,

oh, I made it to a point where it kind of makes sense. Yeah. I made it through that. Now I'm going to the next thing. You have those, that's what I like to think my music could be for people. I think artists recognize that more than just the average person. Yeah. Because the arts bring everybody together.

You know what I mean? Yeah. Yeah. Oh, man. There's nothing like it being at a concert and you're seeing somebody age and somebody white and somebody in and all singing the same song, vibrating in the same room. I heard a festival when Room 5 was on stage. I swear I was looking, I'm like, it's so great.

Music brings us all together. It's very cliche, but I was sitting there like, it really does. Like, we're all here. Music is the only universal language. True. I just say, what do you say? Music and math? Music and math.

Math, yeah. I don't speak math at all. I don't speak math at all. Not good. They're like, what tip you get? I'm like, I don't know, just, you know, let's make it right. What does real love look like to you? That's a great question. I think real love to me is selfless.

I don't think there's selfishness in love, a real love. I don't think there's ego and a real love. And I think the constant wanting the best for the other person is something that I think is super powerful, like somebody who just wants you to be your best. But also isn't too pushy. It's a balance, you know what I mean? But I think it's a dance, like you were talking about earlier,

I don't think you ever fully figured out or ever have it right. But I think when you have someone that's constantly wanting the best for you and wanting you to operate at the highest version of you, that's somebody that really loves you. Now, are you not a free, but are you scared to date again, basically? No. No. I'm happy. Yeah, you're happy, but you're single right now.

Breakfast club, love this. I love coming on the show. Did I get to tell you, thank you, though, for having me back up here. always like show love and let me to come up and promote my stuff I fuck with you man oh he is good I appreciate I like what you're doing you carry the torch for us you rep what the boys are missing what are you serious are you I'm super happy right now that's the thing okay you know I'm just in so much joy He's definitely happy.

You got some cutty last night. Something's going on. Look at this. Hey, life is good. All I got to say is better and better. Okay. Better and better. Oh, I like that.

I like that. Are you a homeless romantic? Yes. Yeah, and I think it's I totally am. I was going to try to elaborate. Yeah, I definitely am. I love, love.

Yeah. I love to be loved. I love to love. And I think that's from my family. Honestly, dude. I come from an incredible, incredible family. And my grandmother, my grandfather just passed away recently, RIP, but these are people that just instilled love into every single child, grandchild, the men, the women, like, it just, that's just what I come from. And I can't operate on anything other than that.

Now, do you have a Poma deal? Oh, what? Puma deal? It's on the way, hopefully. This is all Puma, y'all. Check me out. Oh, yeah. You see the pants?

We saw the photo on your Instagram. She could do. I didn't know that. I didn't know it. Boom. She could bang. Okay. No, they got some stuff.

And I had no idea when I had gone up there. I was like, I didn't know. She was like, yes, yes. We got that stuff. It was all right, cool. That's good. They have amazing, amazing clothes. Yeah.

I didn't even know that they made clothes like that. Like, yeah. The sweater. As soon as I saw that someone to need that. Oh, I do like it. It was very comfortable. Yeah. You say why I love you goodbye.

Oh. Why the goodbye? Okay, let's talk about it. I'm glad you asked that. Last thing she said to me on the phone was I love you, goodbye. And I was like, oh, this is a great album title though. That was literally my brain. I was like, this hurt, shit, write a song or make an album.

And yeah, that's literally how the album title came to be. That was, we had a conversation about a maybe like 30 minutes, hour long. And right after she's like, all right, I love you, goodbye. And that was the last time we spoke. And I was like, this is a great album title. Yeah. How long was it? Maybe two years.

Wow. They say if you love something, let it go if it comes back to you as yours, right? yours, right? So how do you know that she... No, it ain't right. It ain't right. It ain't right. It ain't right. Has she tried to... No, no, no. No. Hey, Big Ed. Not at all, not at all.

And I wish nothing but the best for you, you know what I'm saying? I got no ill will. And the music is also not about me trying to do anything towards her. Just me expressing those feelings that I was going through. And I think it's important to see the, you know, gosh perspective and all the feelings that we go through. But I love you goodbye, man. It's also the death of something and the rebirth of something. And that's also why the outfit that I have that you guys have seen is kind of like. that. It's like I said when you get broken up with, it feels like you shut up to the wedding

alone. And I was like, you got up to the altar and knowing was there. It's like, oh, gosh, dang, right? So that outfit kind of is that too. And it's, yeah, it's like dealing with grief and being rebirthed into somebody new. And again, like I said, I do it a million times over to be the man that I am or see the way I see the world now. I would do it again. Knowing that you need more and everything you learned from that two years ago, how do you approach relationships now so that you're not so? Because seems like you're like very like open. Yeah. How do you not just? give it all up front um that is hard for me because i do i do go hard and i go fast and i'm like

yo let's see what i mean life is short we're gonna die tomorrow that's my in my head that's how i feel about a lot of the time i'm like you know i think about death all the time so i'm like let's do it let's just you know let's get hitched no i'm kidding um but i think yeah i'm just a little more cautious and i again when i say i deserve more i think i'm looking more for people to see me more you know what i felt like it was just a lot of like oh my god you're that guy right but it wasn't like, you ain't seen me for real. Like, who are you? Yeah, yeah.

So I'm in search of that, and that's kind of something I'm paying more attention to. And there's small stuff, too. You know what I'm saying? There's, yeah. What version of yourself do you think this project reflects? What version of myself do I think this project reflects? Hmm.

I think it's my most emotional album. I think it's the most, yeah, emotion, I'm really in tune with him. I'm telling you, there's one record on the album. You can, like, hear me crying in the back. My brother, I was mad that he kept it on the mix. But he was like, no, we need this. We need this. This is real trash.

What you want? Can we list for the EP? No, it's not on the EP? Oh, okay, okay. It's on the album. But the EP is a, you know, a part of it. What songs are all on the EP? Sorry, I should know this book.

I'll tell you right now. Let's see. Let's talk about some of the record. You got it right here. Do you guys like a friend of a friend? Which one is. Don't you miss with that? That was like a look.

This one. We have a... One he was playing earlier. Blast and that shit and I was like, damn, this shit can go to a TV show, a movie, a movie, too. They sent us friend of friend. They sent us love don't want me. We're fighting for.

One foot in collection and I thought you... One foot in. Collection is probably my favorite. I like... I like fighting for it too. Yeah. Thank you. Collection is probably my favorite though.

Excuse me on that because, um... Yeah, I'm not gonna be another broken heart that you add to your collection. That's why I have to put it to an end before it starts. Don't, uh, that's what I said, don't get me to your collection, don't want to be another broken heart. And then at the end, the second hook flips, right? Because you're gonna be another broken heart that I, I don't want you to be another broken heart to add to my collection. We both aren't good at love, but we're trying to hang on to this thing. So yeah, that's probably my favorite song on there. But the whole, the whole EP is cold. Which one is the one that sounds like the country? Is that one for that's worth fighting for?

That's what I like. Okay. Why did you decide to go through the country? Because- And that's what I mean, even when I was making it, I wasn't like, Let's make a country song. I just heard a beat. And then that was like what came. I'm drinking night at the bar alone. You know what I'm like?

That's all right, cool. Go with it. You know what I'm saying? And that's how everything with me kind of is. It's very spontaneous and just off of the cuff. And it came out like that. And I'm from Indiana. I've loved country since I was a baby.

So, you know what I mean? It just kind of leaned into that vibe. But yeah, I've always, when I was mentioning my favorite artist, Gary LaVos from Marascoe, who was one of my favorite vocalists. What are Indiana? You're from Indiana. I'm from Indianapolis. My family's from Marion.

And custom family. Fort Wayne too but are you related to the Jackson's I wish I honestly he literally before you came in was like he said every time he says that he says that he says it's every single time because why would he just lie he don't know it's the 2025 who gives the fuck about it I might I might do better off might be better off huh Michael's nephew Michael's long lost traffic just say in here so the headline are grabbed this I'm I'm Michael Jackson's nephew I got to tell you all the truth yes Jermaine's my daddy. My mom had a wild night.

Say Tito. No, nobody's going to believe Tito. God bless you dad, Tito, not around it, you know what I'm saying? So my point is, say you Tito and say you at Jackson, people will start listening to your music with a different air. I'm telling you. With a different ear? I'm telling you.

I know his dad's going to be like, no, he got a dad. No, my dad would be hot. My dad would be hot. I called him on the way here. You told him you was going to say that? No, no, my dad. He said my, he was talking about my dad. Yeah.

With all of your background. television are you working on scoring any of this music and trying to put it into the TV side of things because it does sound like very commercial this is my oh can I just shout out real quick UM yeah let's just round of applause for United Masters man they're incredible shout out Amad shout out Maria back here these people shout out jesse UM has um changed my perspective on you know working with the label and nice and really put music out but to answer your question uh yes I would love to do that and uh yeah I think we'll all kind of be in the process of trying to figure that out. I would love that though. So you're independent but just

distributing through you? I'm signed to UMOS. Oh, sign to you? Okay. We officially signed. Our first, it's complicated, we partnered up and then now we were like, this feels good. Yeah. This feels right. Let's do it. Let's go all the way. You ever hear a record back and think to yourself, I was too honest on that one. Yeah. Do you keep it or do you keep it? Okay, okay, okay. Got to keep it. What's the last record you did that on? It's on the album. You haven't heard of. But when it comes out, I will tell you. All right.

But there's one on the album for sure. I'm like, ah, should I? Oh, should I? Yes. And the other means like, do it, do it, do it. Yeah, X going to be mad about it? Maybe. That's all good.

You're an overthinker, though. Yeah, true. You'll thank yourself out of doing something. I can tell you. I literally told my brother, I was like, dude, should I not put this whole album out? He's like, bro, shut it. Right. I was like, dude, I just, I don't know, man.

I don't know. It's crazy. Are we going to get a tour? Yes, definitely going to get a tour. That's my favorite place to be. Okay, you and let's get it, y'all. Yeah, I'm very, very stoked. And especially, again, with this music,

I think this is such sing-along music. And I can't wait. Every time I've gone on tour, it's gotten bigger and it's gotten better. So I'm really stoked to just see how the fans receive this music and turn up. And turn up, you know, let's celebrate together and, you know, be happy to be there. I got to hear how sad this album, because I just, like, I was listening to T-O-R-Savage's new album.

T-W-W Savage. T.W. I don't take, don't take you, no, this, what's it called? This is personal. This is personal. And when you're listening to it, you can feel her pain, like on some like Mary J. Blige, my life type. So are you doing this, what I love you? It's like that. Okay. I'll give you another story real quick. There's a song called Manna Steele on the, on goodbye, right? That's coming up. And I'm just showing you how close my life is to the music. So before that call, I was telling you that I love you goodbye call. What I do when I'm sad is I watch. superhero movies okay I'm a nerd I don't give that Marvel DC I don't care so I'm watching Batman right I'm gonna be okay man just be strong you know I'm watching the movie she calls we get off the phone and right basically in within that conversation was like look you can't love me and be you right you can't do be this guy and still be with me like I see that that's not gonna work so you know that's why we can't do it right soon as I get off the phone I go back to watching Batman

versus Superman and Lois Lane walked into the bathroom and no Superman walks into the bathroom Lois Lane is in the tub and he's like what's wrong And she was like, it's impossible. He's like, what's impossible? She was like, for you to love me and still be you. The exact same line. I ran downstairs. I'm telling everybody, I'm like,

guys, just so you know this actually just happened. I'm not using this story so I can tell it on the breakfast club. Like this really just happened, made the song that day, Manna Steele. That's one of my favorite songs on album. I just ask a question. Yeah, please. Was it your first time watching the movie? No.

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