The Breakfast Club - INTERVIEW: Tye Tribbett On Winning Grammy For Gospel, Battling Depression, Finding God Outside Of Church + More

Episode Date: March 6, 2024

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Wake that ass up in the morning. The Breakfast Club. Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy, Jess Hilarious, Charlamagne Tha Guy. We are The Breakfast Club. We got a special guest in the building. Yes, indeed. Todd Trippett.

Welcome, brother. Thanks for having me. What's up, y'all? How y'all feeling? Congratulations. You just won a Grammy, 2024 Grammy for Best Gospel Albummy for best gospel album so congratulations thank you three in total yeah three in total man i'm so hype about that and excited you know i didn't uh it wasn't needed but it's a it's appreciated do you pray for stuff like that no i used to okay okay i used to but i

had to get my you know uh uh the reason why i do what i do i had to get that in order i had you know intention yeah intention exactly last year i was nominated for two grammys and i just knew i the reason why I do what I do, I had to get that in order. Intention. Yeah, intention, exactly. Last year, I was nominated for two Grammys, and I just knew I was going to walk away with at least one. And when I walked away with none, it was like a soul check for me. Like, all right, well, why do you do what you do, bro?

You got to just kind of reevaluate all of that stuff. So I kind of like stopped needing it or stopped wanting it so bad and stopped so ambitiously going for it. Just stick to the reason why I do what I do. Have doing it bless the people show love give them christ and uh this year when i walked away with it yo we literally sat like in the back because the gospels they don't present the gospel on the on the grammys we got the pre-awards they could do what was like nine o'clock in the morning you know i'm saying so i had to wake up early and we went to the pre-show and it's open seating there.

So you can sit anywhere you want. So my manager like, yo, come on, let's, let's go to the front, bro. I'm like, nah, man, I'm just going to sit back here. We're going to take an L. I don't like that long walk of shame. It's too far. So let's just stay close to the exit. So we was in the back chilling.

I got it all on video and they calling everybody's name. Of course, when they called my name, I was like, what? Cause I was really content. I had to learn really just to be content. Because, you know, being overly ambitious just robs you of gratitude. Then you just get on and feel like going down that rabbit hole. So you had to take that long walk up to the stage. I had to take that long walk.

I was running like, oh, my goodness, trying to figure out what I'm going to say on the way. Because I literally didn't expect to win. But, you know, I was going to be there to show them how to be a good sore loser in Christ. But I'm just proud of you every time you nominated. 13 nominations. Ain't that crazy? Yeah. So even without winning the awards, I'm like, you're recognized by so many to be nominated 13 times like true i love that after

a while you just get used to i i i should start celebrating the nominations you know what i mean because there's a lot of people that don't make it there either exactly or you just pile up the l's like i'm 13 but i lost it nah just be yeah albums your work touch a lot of souls thank you for that you know to me i love that you. I love doing what I do and why I do it. You know what I'm saying? People leave my shows. They're not just turnt up, but they got hope. You know what I mean?

They got inspiration. You know what I mean? And they're healing and all of that's taking place. So I love what I do and why I do it. It's a blessing. And you're from Camden, right? Camden, New Jersey, bro. And so you lived there your whole life?

Yeah. And then Florida? Then Houston for a year, New Jersey, bro. So you lived there your whole life? Yeah. Then Florida? Then Houston for a year, then Florida. Okay. Yeah, so growing up in Camden, you know. Well, if you don't know, y'all should know here in New York, y'all know about Camden. Did you ever ask God why? So many days I asked God why, but I had to get it in the trenches.

I had to learn in the gutter how to be in the valley before you be in the mountain. You know what I'm saying? So I can know what it is to struggle. So I can know what it is to be impoverished. So I can know what it is, you know what I mean, to be underprivileged. So when it happened for me, I could reach back and say, hey, this is how you do it. This is how you come up and help others, man. I think it takes people like you because when I see somebody like you have the success that they have from Camden,

you really don't hear a lot of good things about Camden. No, for real. This murder capital of the world sometime, or the most violent city. I remember those stats growing up, like hey, Camden's on the map. We in the newspaper. For what? Oh, most violent city. You know what I mean? That's not, and Baltimore

is probably not too different. No shade to Baltimore. I love, I love everybody, you know, coming out look yeah everybody you know coming up coming out of that you know i'm glad i had like the little family church we had a little 50 member family church that we had just kept us grounded kept us focused and i was just like tunnel vision the whole time and uh and slowly but surely i just saw myself not like my surroundings now that was a challenge in itself because you you don't know you're different until you know you're different and then you know you got family to deal with and friends to deal with

who who are like oh don't change on us but bro if i don't change i can't help you you know what i'm saying so that was a challenge for me at a very young age knowing i could know when i was talented knowing i could play knowing i could do music and knowing it was, uh, uh, uh, what's the word? Extraordinary. It wasn't just normal. So that change was a challenge, but I, you know, I'm glad that all things work together for good, man. I want to ask you, being a gospel singer, do you feel like it's a lot of pressure on you where it's almost like people look at your life differently, right? Like it's almost like they want you to be perfect. Do you have a hard time dealing with that? I dealt with that before I became a gospel artist.

So speaking of growing up in this small church, my grandmother was the pastor first. My dad was on the organ. I'm watching him every Sunday. Like, oh, my God, this guy is amazing. I start playing. Then he became the pastor. So I got that pressure as a PK. The perfection is all of that.

I got all of that pressure as a young kid, like 12, 9, since I've been born. Spotlight's been on me to be the poster child for what Christ is. I'm like, yo. And pastor kids be the worst. Yeah. Why you? They do. Pastor kids be the worst. Because you... Pastor kids be the worst.

Because of the pressure, though. Because of the pressure. The pressure leads you to a life of crime. Damn. Too much handcuffs leads to rebellion, man. You know what I mean? That legalism and that religious structure, it leads to like, yo, I'm not cut out for this. I didn't sign up for this.

Y'all signed up for this. And the expectation is too much for me, yo. So I just rebel. People go completely opposite of the ways that their parents bring them up when you bring them up too strict. I came up the same way. I had the pressure of perfection. And I tried to live up to it until my parents got a divorce. And I'm like, whoa.

In my day, that was like, you know, it's normal now. Every day it happens. Every day. Back then it was like a culture shock for me like whoa in my day that was like you know it's normal now every day it happens every day back then it was like a culture shock for me it shattered my whole world i was like bump the church then what i'm doing here why am i being faithful to god and he man my dad i'm out you know i'm saying that's when i went to all the clubs did all that stuff i didn't dance though i just played at all the clubs i didn't you know i still didn't drink didn't smoke just i just went and played the keyboard at all the clubs for like Music Soul, Child, Jill, Scott, everybody in the Philadelphia area, The Roots and all that stuff. So I'm in there playing hymns to the beats.

They don't even know what I'm doing. But I kind of had my little rebellious moment during that time just to find out who I am outside of y'all expectations, man. Outside of who y'all saying God is to me. Let me find him for myself. Let me figure out who I am outside of y'all expectations, man. Outside of who y'all saying God is to me. Let me find them for myself. Let me figure out who I am for myself. And it's been the most liberating thing. And I've been walking in that sense. I feel like that's a journey and that's a form of liberation. Every human has to experience in their life. And you should like strive to feel that. No, literally, whether you're religious or in church or not, just the family, just family bond, you know what I mean? Bloodstained, all can bind you bro family can keep you stuck in a level that you're

never supposed to be in for the rest of your life people who love you can bind you through their care through their love through their expectations through manipulation through emotional manipulation it's a whole lot of things that keep us from being who we're supposed to be in this earth because of other people's expectations and demands. So I'm all about freedom, man. My my whole life is freedom. My whole mantra is about freedom. So when you when you, you know, contact me or hear my music, people think it's energy. I like to call it the spirit of freedom and liberating everybody that you need that. And when you don't know you bound, that's the worst. When you don't know you bound that's the worst when you don't know you're bound that is the worst when you become used to being manipulated used to being controlled

used to being used you can either be used or loved you can't be both you could either be used or love and a lot of people are being used and not realizing they're not experiencing true love, man. So they just get used to being used. Like, all right, I'll do this for you. I'll come through for you. Whenever you call me, I'm there. And they think that's love, but a lot of them are being used. Did a lot of those triggers resurface in your marriage when you got separated?

Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah, yeah. Well, me and my wife separated. It was bad, yeah. Oh, yeah, yeah. When me and my wife separated, it was bad, yo. It was very, very bad for me because I didn't think my whole thing when my father messed up with my dad, I'm like, I ain't never going to be like him. I'm never going to do that. So I went the pride way.

So my heart just really was like, you know what I mean? I got more exposure than he ever got. I got more notoriety than he ever got, and'm still ain't gonna do what he did i'm still man that pride comes before a fall and i fell hard and i moved to la my wife was in jersey we just separated i didn't think we would ever you know get back together again uh i was just out there working on me she was out there she was out there working on her not really trying to get the marriage back together. And I think when you try to do that too soon, sometimes you damage it because your point is just to try to get them back together but not work on you because you still got stuff you got to work on. I still had stuff I had to work on.

I still had weaknesses I had to work on. And so I'm out there working on me. She's working on her. I'm praying. She's praying. And God kind of just brought our hearts uh back together but all through that whole time i realized my mortality i realized my humanism i realized my weaknesses i realized who i was for real like this religious uh perspective i became that like like now i i'm a pastor right but i

don't say i'm a pastor. I'm just, I'm just a child of God with an assignment. You understand what I'm saying? I'm a child of God who got something to say to a certain group of people. I don't become my assignment. You understand what I'm saying? But that's the world today. If I were to meet you in the street, the first thing I'll say is, what do you do? Not who are you? You understand what I'm saying? And I think we lose who we are and what we do. And's what I did I got lost and all of that and I forgot who I was now I read that you you battled with deep depression during that time yeah contemplated suicide what got you out of that literally what got me

out of suicide initially was just people it was just people around me too much I couldn't get by myself uh it was just always literally it wasn't my prayer life it wasn't the holy ghost it was peep it was physical people around me ty you good ty you want to eat ty i'm like y'all just leave so i can pop these pills because y'all just leave so i can just try to do all this stuff uh but depression is a deep deep deep dark spirit man and i'm i'm glad that i had people around me to help me get through that season man just all those thoughts and all those suggestions that come to us man and we feel like it's us i love that i call them i call them well i had a little series that i

call ghostbusters right so because there's other ghosts besides the Holy Ghost. And if you don't differentiate what ghost is speaking to you, bro, you could be lost in that whole rabbit hole of depression, suicide, stress, all of these things. My issue is we let all these ghosts talk to us and we do what they say and we take on the moves and the attitudes of all these voices that are speaking to us. Therapy helps, counseling helps, but ultimately the Spirit of God is the only one that can really deliver us and rescue us from that, man. And I had that. I had that. But I was there, and I couldn't believe I was there. I love my life. I love my wife. I thought I was good. But then when tragedy hits you and you just can't take it

and you just feel like you have no other option. It was really the embarrassment. It was really the pride of everybody know who I am. It really wasn't. Life was so hard. It was how I saw myself and how I thought I was. So when you just drop who you are like, yo, when you just. Just just kill who you think you are, man, just be nothing. The Bible says he who seeks to save his life will lose it. But if you lose your life, you'll gain it. So I lost the celebrity side of me.

I lost the gospel artist. I lost. I like forget being a father, forget being a husband, forget all these things. I think I am. I'm just tired right now. And then that's when salvation began to come because you really are bigger than your image and it was all in the image that you were living in yeah but that's that's not that's not social media today you are your image today yeah

the world i hate that but you understand what i'm saying you you are you are who you pose today so that's why it's also a lot of suicide okay out of a lot of depression a lot more than we see it you know well how challenging is it to to be to be real on social media you understand what i'm saying i know some people who will never be behind the camera without their lashes on or who will never get on there without certain things so how challenging is it to be your authentic self on social media i don't think or or to the world i don't think people are ready to to bear nakedness. You know what I'm saying? But it's going to take somebody who's undershamed to be like,

hey, this is me and love me or leave me and just run the risk of that. But I don't think people are ready for that. I did that early. I got a little, it's a little ponytail.

Yo, your word. It's still going around. That's why. You trying to get it off. Yeah, I'm trying to get it off now. But I'm like, yo, that's when I first started and it was out there.

They put t-shirt, put it on t-shirts and everything like, Jess, Jess. Did we buy one? I think I bought one. Yeah, it was a lot of them. I sold out, but I was like, you know what? This is me. Am I one? You want one now?

No, you don't. No, you don't. But that's what I loved about you, Jess. That's what I love. Me too. You understand what I'm saying? She real. Damn, Jess don't give a fuck.

Right, right. But would you do it, though? You admire that, but would you do it? Would you do it? If I had the ponytail, hell yeah. You would? Yeah. He wants a ponytail.

He wants a ponytail. He wants any type of hair. He wants any type of hair. There is a picture of Charlamagne with hair and look kind of like it starts back here, but you never posted that. It's back in the day. I got to see that. I think you and your whole situation is just a testament to the glory of God.

You and your wife are together now, testament to the glory of god you you and your wife are together now right yeah she's right here right behind me man i'm shantay in the building now you're good girl and she survived the car y'all been through a lot yeah a whole a whole a whole lot it seemed like a series of unfortunate events you know i'm saying and her life i mean it's just it just it just starts from I was gonna say it starts from birth everybody's life starts uh but with the with growing up with uh parents like I had and she was basically fatherless for for a long period of time you grow up with a whole lot of unmet needs you know what I mean you have needs as a child that you should have met that you don't

have met security protection protection, encouragement, validation, all of these things. We, we affection, we, we have to grow up without that. Right? So now we got to make the choice of either like living without it or killing

the desire period. So now we commit what we call my man, Tim Fletcher calls soul suicide. So you commit soul suicide because as a child, a three year old, I need affection. I don't know., a three year old, I need affection. I don't know I need it, but naturally I need it. And if I don't get it, I just kill the desire for it. So now I'm in a relationship and I don't know how to be affectionate. Yeah. You understand what I'm saying? I got kids and I don't know how to show that because I've been killed that.

So now we're trying to restore those things and and trying to do it In the context of marriage I married her at 18 I was 21 So that's a That's a kid Those are kids When I look at them Ages now

I'm like man That was a kid That was a really little kid How long y'all been together Huh How long y'all been together 28 now Yeah

28 years Me and my wife 26 Oh for real And me and his wife 30 Oh word Yeah Oh congrats bro

so y'all know what i'm talking about hey listen i relate to your story so much even when you talk about how you know what you saw in your father and not wanting to be like that yeah and then finding out that you became just like that later do you understand oh my god do you understand man that's like a that's like a that's like a it's like a shock to your whole to your whole system man you got to do a whole lot of rewiring, man. And my thing is, I think a lot of people know they need help. Where they go to get help is just as important as knowing you need help. So you know what I mean?

So therapists and all that stuff, I think that's all is great. But I like to go to the source. I like to go to the creator. And I believe God is the creator of all of us. If you don't turn to God, man, you'll get a bandaid. You get medicated. But the real healing is in Jesus Christ. I believe in God and therapy.

Me too. Me too. And plant based medicine and healing and meditation. Okay. Okay. I agree. I agree. I agree.

I can't smoke the weed with you, brother, but I understand. But I feel you. I feel you i'm the hurt i ain't mad at you bro i i ain't here to judge at all but you know i just feel like when something else becomes your source something else is your source you know what i mean and that's the scary part to me i don't want another thing besides god to be my source everything could be a resource and if god leads me to that fine but if i just choose it i could damage myself and my life and what i want and desire to do or be in life what do you think about some of the it seems like for a while maybe the last 10 years it seems like being a pastor was

cool right so it was like like everybody wanted to be a rapper everybody wanted to be a podcast host and it seems like a lot of people wanted to be a pastor for the wrong reasons yeah how do you feel about that? you missed that era? the pastor era? you know? man was building them huge churches I think the pastor phenomenon came from

oh man getting money in the church it's a bunch of different things you can speak to it more but I think getting money in the church and how you look and how you're praised and you forget that he's supposed to be praised but how he praised you and all that type of stuff so yeah i see a lot of instagram passes out there but you know it is what you killed it you killed that whole thing i think a lot of pastors were not called the pastor they just you know study you go to school and then you just become a pastor like

you become a manager at you know publics or something like that and that's that's unfortunate for a lot of people who invest their you know money time attention and their soul into people who they believe are really called from god i don't believe a lot of pastors are i think i think it's a system now oh god it's the system everything is a system and systems work with or without god so i think the institution of church is whack i think how church is ran is whack i think the religious system and structure is whack i don't subscribe to it even though i grew up in it i benefited it, but I learned that God is not the church. And once I realized, whoa, God ain't church.

For me, you know what I mean? I ain't from the streets. I'm from the church. So that was a huge thing as well. It's in the Bible. It says you can't even find God in a man-made temple. Why don't we read that, though? How often do you hear that sermon?

No, you hear pastors make the people about the church. We've got the church name. We church in the church in make the people about the church. We've got the church name. We church in the church and the bumper sticker of the church. The church should be about the people. The church should be about the people, but the church makes the people about the church. So all churches now are a movement, but they're not about the people. They're not about serving and loving the people. So I just kind of pulled that.

We online right now we're not even in a building a physical building or nothing like that so live church shout out to live church i love y'all so much live church orlando we're online right now and because we had an issue with a building and now i'm like hold up what's going on here like do i do we need a bit like you understand i'm saying like in order to do what we need to do affect people serve and love and minister i'm just looking at everything differently at this point because the church structure has really i mean there's a lot of people who won't even go to church obviously when the last time y'all been to church i go every sunday okay not you but no no no no he goes on tv

i go bedside baptist oh you're on tv i'm i like watching potter's house online oh yeah okay wait to jump down your throat and be like no you don't He said I go every Sunday Online But why not Honestly it's because There's not too many churches that speak to my spirit I really do like what they do in the Potter's House

I think there's a lot of anointing in that church From Bishop T.D. Jakes To Sir Jake Roberts to Pastor Tore So even when i'm in dallas if i'm there on like a saturday i'll stay just to go to go on like that you physically go oh absolutely what about you envy uh for me it's i used to hate going to church as a kid right uh because baptist church you're staying there four or five hours uh especially if somebody's getting baptized you got to dress up so it may be not necessarily love it right um and i noticed that with my kids

when i took them to church it became a chore like i gotta get dressed i got this but now on sunday morning we can cook breakfast together sit down on the couch and watch it and it's comfortable they ain't gotta get dressed they ain't got mommy ain't gotta do the kids here yeah they ain't gotta make sure things are right because they gotta sit in the nah it's not that at all it's all about the church right which i prefer so yeah we go online you know i mean right and i don't have to just stick to one church you know as a kid growing up in new york we always had to go to brooklyn the grandma's church there was no option it was got you let me try something else now on tv one day i can turn a couple of dollars next day i can turn

and i can get different feelings in my kids can as as well. So I prefer that as well, too. Why you don't go, Jess? He was going to ask me that. I was coming. You saw my left hand like this. I was coming right to you, Jess. I was going like a pastor asking. A pastor asking. Yeah.

So I still belong to my home church in Baltimore City, Restoration Christian Ecclesia Church. And I'm not in Baltimore on Sundays anymore. Got you. Because I have to be here. I got to wake up 345 in the morning. But even before that, I was doing shows Thursday through Sunday. So I wasn't able to go. And if I just try more, I can definitely get on the road and come up here after church because church is from 10 to 12, 10 to 1 sometimes.

But I still pay my tithes. You know what I mean? I still give offering. My mom's a deacon. I grew up in that church. It was called Holy Church of Christ when I was younger. And my son has been Christian in that church. And my baby that I'm having now will go and get Christian in that same church.

I don't want to go to another church. Now, I will listen to a sermon from someone else. I listen to Sarah Jakes. You know, I will end different podcasts as well but i just my my reason is simply just an excuse i just don't go to church because i travel okay i get i get that literally what do y'all look for when you go to a church what do y'all what do y'all look for like you said uh everyone don't don't touch your soul don't minister to your spirit it's not about what i look for it's about what i feel got it it's a feeling you know what i mean like you just i know what you mean some people just speak touch your soul. Don't minister to your spirit. It's not about what I look for. It's about what I feel. Got it. It's a feeling.

You know what I mean? Yeah, I know what you mean. Some people just speak to your soul. I think Sarah Jakes right now, man, at least for me. She talking to you. I love it. All the time. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

So practical. I'm listening to her podcast. So I just think some people have an anointing on them for the moment that we are in. And just like her father had it and still has it, I think she had it for the current moment that we are in and just like her father had it and still has it you know i think she had it for the current moment that we're in word and and then another thing so growing up in a church where you know i'm so used to that back in the day like for instance i don't want to go to a big big big church yeah because the pastor don't know me the pastor don't i'm used to going to talk to the pastor pastor church, going to get that individual prayer,

going to tell him what I'm struggling with and all that. As a teenage, I was going through a lot of things, you know what I mean? So I would be able to go and talk to my uncle. He is the bishop, like go and talk to him and stuff like that. But I've gone to churches where, you know, pastor don't even know you. And he's not even tripping off getting to know nobody. You know what I'm saying? Yeah.

He just come and he do his thing. They sing a whole album before he start the sermon. Only one album? Yeah. Yes. Right? You shout. I see people shout.

And I see, you know, all of that. And that's what I'm used to, too, because you're not in cuddle with the church. Okay. I start coming from there. Okay. You shout. And then absolutely not. I grew up to hold a witness.

Okay. So I ain't start going to church till later got you too grown for that holy ghost hey going around knocking on the doors how you doing

how you know all that Saturday a lot of that be performing that's what I'm talking about that's what I'm talking about you got time for that

but you got time to walk down every block and knock on everybody's door hand in the pamphlet sorry every Saturday y'all everybody got time for that

and too early y'all come too early if you came around noon it'll be all right so yeah the the the personal the personal has been lost you know what i mean and then it becomes to the point where the the like i said the past of feel like he's god yeah that's what i'm talking about churches and and that's what i meant by churches is whacking because i know i went on on, this is whack, whack, whack. And church people are probably like, Ty! Is your country falling apart?

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I'm Jackson I, King of Kaperburg. I am the Supreme Leader of the Grand Republic of Mentonia. Be part of a great colonial tradition. Well, why can't I trade my own country? My forefathers did that themselves. What could go wrong? No country willingly gives up their territory. I was making a rocket with a black powder, you know, with explosive warhead.

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I mean that stuff right there yeah and what it's become i have found it i have found it i think i said it right challenging to know everyone in my church though i found it i found it challenging i try to be personal but i try to i stay at the church and just i stand there whoever want to come to me they can talk to me i don't got the 80 security guards and all that right i stand there they can talk to me but it's a challenge to know everybody in the church and that's a that's me, but it's a challenge to know everybody in the church. And that's because it's a bigger church. It's bigger, yeah, it's bigger.

But you knew families, though. Like, in my church, they knew the Casey family, which was grandma and grandkids and parents. They knew the Johnsons and this one and that one. So you knew families.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, overall. And that means something. That means a lot to people. But what if you didn't get that? Does that mean that's not the church for you? Because Moses led millions of people. I doubt he knew, you know what I mean jock quibbles whatever his name was i doubt i doubt

he knew everyone but he was still their leader so i try to look at it from a lot of perspectives you know what i mean and make sure people are coming for the right reason and make sure that the pastor is there for the right let me ask you a question right so growing up in queens i went to catholic school right my zone school was the worst so my parents was making me go to catholic school i wasn't going to andrew jackson but i noticed in catholic school as a kid catholic school is 30 30 minutes maybe 35 you up out of there it's i'm back home baptist church is three hours you know me so we got more to say but it's to the point as a kid yeah you know you you feel like i get everything i need in this 30 minutes i don't need this in three and a half

hours i always wonder like why is the church so long because you know you got announcements then you pass it you're passing around twice then sister so-and-so gotta talk about and if you don't give enough on the first offer oh you gotta come, I know y'all got 50 more dollars. We almost reached our goal. We ain't there yet. And I think that's part of it. It's so long? Yeah. I think churches have changed

since then. I don't think churches is three hours like that anymore. I think it's like I've seen She going in. I've seen church structures like 90 minutes. You what i'm saying they try to be more mindful of that and the more you know current churches and stuff like that yeah they try to they try to cut that down a little bit but i think the reason is is people just have a lot of expression man they got a lot of they got a lot to say they

got a lot to to get out you understand i'm saying hated the long churches. I grew up Pentecostal. So I'm Pentecostal church. What? Three hours? That's it? We just getting started. Right. Yo, three hours. When you say three hours, I'm like, what? Man, we just getting started. We ain't had nothing else to do. We ain't had no social media. Sundays was for God. So we was going to stay

all Sunday. So after the five-hour service... And then... After the five-hour service... And then... After the five-hour service, you... And then you got a second service. Come on, you better stay for that second service. We got people coming from Baltimore.

We did Detroit. We got another service coming at 6. You're like, damn, yo. I hated that, but I'm so glad it was like that for me as a young jit. You understand what I'm saying? I'm so glad it was like that for me as a young kid. You understand what I'm saying? I'm so glad it was like that for me because it just kept me from a whole lot. You look like Michael K. Williams.

Anybody ever told you that? Yeah. No, I heard Chris Rock a lot. And I don't know who. I don't know Michael K. Williams. You got a similar energy as Michael K. Williams. I never met him. Very energetic, too.

A word? I never met him. Maybe we need to hook up or something like that. Oh, yeah. He dead. He done. Oh, I don't know. Okay. I never met him maybe we need to hook up or something like that oh yeah he dead he done oh I don't know I guess I can't

I guess I can't I guess I can't don't give me the donkey of the day don't give me the donkey of the day I'm sorry I didn't know

I don't know I was trying to cut him off he said I never met the bro I was like alright so yeah we got to make up we can edit y'all we'll connect one day if you believe

you will see him again I have done with y'all will connect one day if you believe what you see. You will see him again. I have done with y'all, yo. Is it true that you worked on Justin Timberlake's Cry Me a River? Yeah, I worked on Justin. We was in the Root Studio. Again, growing up in the Philly, Camden, Philly area. We did our first album at the Root Studio. Crazy how we got signed, too.

Vivian Green is like an R&B soul artist, and she was doing a showcase for Tommy Mottola and Donnie Einer, and I'm at Sony, and she said, Ty, you know, I was like her cousin at the time. We were like real close. Ty, I want you to MD my showcase. I know you didn't ask me this. I'm just taking a, you know.

I want you to MD my showcase. I said, all right, bet. I got a little couple people from the choir, a couple people from the band band we just put together a little show for viv so speaking of energy and all that we in there with tommy mottola and donnie iron and all these people at columbia and i'm just a young you know i'm just playing i'm i'm like this all the time if i'm playing i'm like this you know what i mean everything is energetic so they like we love vivian green we're gonna sign her to columbia we're going to sign this guy right here. Who's that?

And they was like, oh, no, no, no, no. That's a gospel guy. He does choir and stuff like that. We're signing Vivian, and we're signing a gospel guy. I was like, what? Within 90 days, we had a contract at our crib from Columbia Records. No demo, no black and white, no profile pic, no nothing. And we got signed to Columbia.

With Vivian, or y'all were separate?'re separate nah she got her deal I got my deal so my first album came out on the Columbia Records called life because because of that that moment right there I'm like well God is really real you know I mean I mean you could say being in the right place at the right time but I believe in the favor of God and so we're doing our album in the root studio James Poyser shout out James Poyser. Shout out James Poyser was the producer on that. He's with the Roots now. You see him on Jimmy Fallon every night.

And in the Roots studio, they had the plant-based, you know, stuff going on. Marijuana. The burning bush. The plant-based. They had the burning bush going on every single day. G.A. was in there. We was in there getting contact, you know, trying to sing the praises of the Lord. And just being in that environment, then the roots was like, oh, you know, why don't you do this? Such and such coming to the studio, such and such coming to the studio, such and such.

We just became the choir for like everybody who came. So we're on Jessica Simpson's Christmas album. We're on so many albums as background singers. So Timberland came through and we just caught a vibe Timbaland we were just in there just vibing Tim just put a beat on it we were just in there playing I love working with Tim Tim we could ever do that again bro yeah please let's hook that up yeah so we was in there vibing the cry me uh cry me a river he said I got this song for justice so I'm in there like okay so that's me playing that literally on the world itself yeah that's literally literally So I'm in there like, okay.

So that's me playing that literally on the world. That's literally me. And then the backgrounds on there, me and my girl, Marsha from Floetry, did the background. Yeah. Ain't she amazing, yo? Shout out, Marsha. I love you, girl. We did the backgrounds to that.

And so just when it came out and we listening to it and it's everywhere, it's in 7-Eleven, it's in Wild. that's us that's us shut up boy that'll be twenty dollars you know what i mean i'm like wait that's us that's us hold on give me another sprite just back into that must have been crazy back in money must have been crazy did you get paid for it the right way oh damn i got two thousand dollars for not the past oh man not the you don't do the past i know you cried you a river that's all you got for that lord have murphy two thousand dollars for cry me a river yeah i got two thousand dollars for that but you played it i played it with the arrangements that's the song that's what everybody knows. That's what you hear. That's what you look for. Ain't no good gonna happen to anybody else if they don't take care of the pastor.

Tim, give me a call, Tim. It was, yeah, but you know, I didn't know the business at the time, and I was so hyped to get $2,000. I didn't know what to do. I think I treated everybody to a fry at McDonald's. I know that's right. You understand what I'm saying? So I was just so hyped, but I didn't know the business then, so I ain't know what to do I think I treated everybody To a fry At McDonald's Everybody I know that's right You understand what I'm saying So I was just so hyped

But I didn't know the business then So I ain't got no hard feelings Is your name on it at least Yeah yeah yeah You can go check it out Go check out the credits Go check the credits yo Go check the credits

No you know what You give it Chris Rock Yeah Go check the credits yo Yeah yeah It's definitely Chris I see it now Hey yo

But yeah Dang to know that you did that. That was huge. Did a whole lot. Did a whole lot. What'd you say? What did you do with Usher? I ain't done nothing with Usher,

I don't think. Am I on there with Usher? I meant Usher. It says toured with Usher. I didn't know if you work with Usher. Come on. You gotta be specific. Yeah, yeah.

Nobody do it like what you was thinking. Nah, easy. What you do with Usher. Hold on, yo. I thought you were talking about Usher's in the church for a second. Come on, easy. What you do with Usher. Hold on, yo. I thought you were talking about Usher's in the church for a second. Come on, yo. We might have been on the same program.

I didn't do anything. We didn't do, you know. Jesus. All love to me, Usher, man. That's the homie. Jess, come on. Don't be with the mess right now. Don't be with the mess right now.

Every day. Every day. It's the past. I'm with these two niggas, yo. Every day. I get it. I get it. What are you talking about?

It's a lot. It's a lot to go. Because you'll never know what they're throwing out. God told me to tell you congratulations. Let me get you out of here if you're getting in some trouble. Oh, my God. You're on a tour right now. I'm talking about the tour. Oh, you're touring.

That was last year. Reunion tour was last year, right? Reunion tour was last year. It was amazing. I did an All Things New tour in the spring, and then I did the reunion tour in the fall, winter. It was amazing. I did a reunion tour in the fall, winter.

I did a reunion tour with Kirk and Clark Sisters, Israel israel david and tamela man that was incredible my first arena tour never did that before so i'm like to hear the songs and with all them people it was just it was it was surreal so we're doing it again this year i'm going out may june on the only one night though tour only one night though that's my new single that's out. Only One Night, Though. And the tour is going May, June. I'm telling y'all, I have a second wind of some sort. I don't have a second, third, or fourth, whatever. But I have this momentum behind me right now.

And I am so excited to get out there and do this music. I got new music coming, book coming, podcast, all this stuff is coming, you know, off the hinges of the Grammy, and it's just a good season for me right now, you know, so I want everybody to come. What? He's great, man. Let's play the record. Oh, let's play it. Only one night, though? Alright, real quick,

let me just say this. Um, so what you did for me growing up is, um, to your music, you didn't make it. You and Kirk Franklin was the first two men that did not make listening to gospel boring. Right, right. Yo, because like me growing up with a deaconess as a mom, and, you know, my daddy was a little bit more lenient, you know, but we had to go to church. And a little bit playing to what he was saying, like, we had to do and i had to get the the stiff ponytail with the ballie balls on

my head wasn't really long so when i moved it didn't you know so i'm like i don't want to go here you know and i had the little church socks and all that the ones that jermaine dupree had on at the uh you know i will always do that. When my mom would put you on, she would put you on just so we can get excited to go to church. That is really something for me. You and Kirk Franklin, y'all are the only two.

My mom would be like, alright, alright. Then she knew how to play some other people when we was going too much. Then I'm like, I don't want to listen to such and such. To get us in a mood to go to church, Ty Tri trip and kirk franklin that's what's up that's what i love about you or the song you remember the movie no way i make it when i can't even then you go into the ad-libbing i can't even and What? No, that wasn't it. What? You get him, fam? You got too much.

Strike him down. God know my heart, man. That was a mic. No, I hate that. Strike him down, Lord. She might sit down. Ladies and gentlemen, Todd Shredder. Do you think people have, my time is about to go.

But do you think people have a problem with God? No. No. No, no, no. Absolutely not. You think most people honor everybody i know yeah my whole life has been god-fearing but see i think that um i i think that you have to show and prove that through actions you know i'm saying i think it's one thing to say oh i believe in god i love

god isn't that but do you really try to at least strive to move the way god would want you to move okay i think that's the difficult okay so it's not the it's not the it's not the uh it's not the belief it's the behavior yes i think a lot yeah sometimes it's the behavior of the messenger what you mean somebody will say i have an assignment right like you said i have an assignment and maybe your assignment is to help jess in her situation and her problems and maybe you do but then you as a person is not coming from the perspective of somebody

giving an assignment so let's say if you're here to help Jess in her life or whatever it may be but you know you cheating on your wife with Charlamagne I look at it as that's an example but I just look at it as you know you example But I just look at it as

You know you like light skin men relax That's not going to be the thing But I look at it as you're giving the assignment But the person giving the assignment is not Living the life I disagree with that But that's what makes me hard to see Because you're giving the assignment

But you're not living right It's like are you really giving the assignment Nobody around Jesus was living right. That's all I'm about to say. Like, was your teacher living algebra? Like, you know what I'm saying? Can somebody give you information that'll help you that's still flawed? Right, but sometimes it's like, is that information true?

If you're out there selling crack every night, giving crack to our youth, you might be helping me and saving me, but then you're killing a hundred others. Is that coming from God or is that coming from a negative or evil, the devil? I got you. It's hard to trust it. That's a discernment coming in, right?

Exactly. So you need the spirit as well. You know what I'm saying? That's what I think. So when I said how you feel about God, I was going to ask how you feel about all of that. say you're too grown for the holy ghost but uh that's because i think they be playing yeah yeah i know what you're saying and some people some people do they do most do most most most and now you be seeing them harlem shake i'm like no the ghost ain't making you harlem shake i cut it out. I got a whole routine. Most embrace the culture of church, but not the Christ of them. You know what I mean?

Not Christ. That's the issue as well. I think when you try to move without the Spirit of God, not just the Word of God, but the spirit of God. This is, this is where personal relationship comes in. When you try to move or live your life without the spirit of God, that is your guide. That is your direction. The Holy ghost, the Bible said the Holy spirit comes to lead and to guide us into all truth. So there's a lot of wisdom and truth that we forfeit by not being led by the spirit of God, by being led by Google and by being led by other things like that even a therapist i will add the bible says add to your faith knowledge but add to your faith i think we let knowledge replace our faith we let counsel replace our faith every new information you get as a believer should add to to your faith and that comes through discernment and knowing the spirit

of god so take the time to develop that relationship with god like this sounds crazy but lord all right let me pray you know i mean whatever it is take that time to develop it's your protection you know i mean from the from the wolves and sheep's clothing it's your protection from from wrong relationships and dating the wrong person god knows all he knows the person you're dealing with he knows the thoughts and the intents of the in. He knows the person you're dealing with. He knows the thoughts and the intents and the motives of the people you're dealing with. So the Holy Spirit is a cheat code

to help us deal with life, to make the right business decisions, to make the right decisions for our children because this child is different from this one. I can't do that on my own. So when you allow the Holy Spirit to be your lead and your guide i mean your way will be prosperous the bible says so and you'll be protected because everybody is for themselves

in this world and there's much evil and darkness as you know as you said even in in clergy college yo and i'm tired of it my wife and i are going to work on i think a podcast or something called flipping tables just to kind of like not to expose nobody nothing like that but like hey y'all you know i'm saying this is choreography praise is not it you know i'm saying we want people to get relationship and not religion man so if anything i'll leave y'all it will be that please please please take a prayer oh a prayer okay but now you want to pray yeah no i'm just saying you ain't worried about we did 24 hours ago wow because he might have smoked a cigarette outside right you want to ask that you want to ask where i was last night before you received my prayer

you can pray for me in the corner thank you thank you thank you no but i guess that is important because we never saw presidents or we never saw Obama or his family partying. Yeah, because he had to be the president. You know what I'm saying? So it's very important as leaders what your image is to the people. But part of it to me, I don't know, maybe because I've always found God in the most unlikely places. What do you mean by that? Because he's always in the most.

No, I'm just saying, I understand what Envy envy's saying but i think sometimes you will miss a message from god because you don't like the appearance of the messenger you know yeah and sometimes that's who god is working through that's what they did with jesus they was like who's this god that ain't the savior that's not him they missed the savior of the world still to this day because of how he was presented so but i think you have to know him to see him in things you can see him in the most unlikely places because you you know him well if you know god and you you'll recognize him and everybody else exactly i can see him in movies comic books see him on his wall i can see anywhere because i know him so nothing from without can defile you

i always was taught you can't go to clubs or When we grew up, we couldn't go to nothing. We couldn't go to movies. We couldn't go bowling. We couldn't play basketball because there was just drinks there. What's wrong with bowling? Drinks. Putting your fingers in the holes. Jesus Christ.

Jesus Christ. He shot out. I didn't know. I just saw clips, but he really shot out for real. He shot out for real too. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. That's what I'm saying. It's like a shot out of a pamphlet. Right, right. But I had to learn nothing from without can defile you.

If it's in you, it's in you. If you ratchet, you don't need music to... That's right. You know what I'm saying? It only exposes what's already in you. So we got to change and challenge what's in us. Absolutely. I got one last question because you just made me think of something.

Let's do it. This conversation me and Jess had. When they had the New Year's Eve thing and they did the swag surf in the church. Thank you all for having me, man. Appreciate it. Yeah, I thought it was very much clowned out. No, no. Tell them what you thought.

Tell the pastor what you thought up here. I didn't think it was anything wrong with it because my whole thing was they doing it outside the church anyway. Yeah. You know what I mean? So if you're having a, and it wasn't like it was a regular church service. It was New Year's Eve. They partying.

You know what I mean? Yeah. What did you think? You still thought differently? I thought that all of them were clowns. I'm very much sorry about that. You said all of them were clowns? Everybody was clowns because that was the explicit version being played.

Just like I told Charlamagne. I'm like, no, I didn't grow up like that in church. Like, it's just certain things you don't play with. Yeah, you can swag and surf all day. Even if he disagrees, I don't care. I still think that it was clowned off. No, I agree. I agree with you in that the lyrics was like.

Yeah. I couldn't believe I was hearing that. We can swag and surf all day. But don't. Yeah, I got Patron on my. the lyrics was like yeah i couldn't believe i was hearing that all day but don't see yeah i got patron all my time this girl got a bad bitch behind me and a friend by right they didn't play i think that was a mistake in production or something like that i don't think that was intentional i think it's very much intentional because it was a youth a little youth are you pastor and yes and was like you know what i going to just play this by mistake on purpose.

But if it was the clean version, you'd have been okay with it? If it was the clean version, you'd have been okay with it? You can swag surf in church. Yeah. But why does it have to be to the song? We can swag surf towards high drummers. Or we can swag surf to Kirk Franklin and Lil Baby. I got you on that.

We can swag surf to something. We can swag surf to silence. We made it into another year. That's true. Go to the club after you get out god bless you all right do what you do so how you feel about just the instrumental that's cool right you can put whatever words on top of it you want but you like the lyrics and everything in there i didn't have a problem with it man because you know they're gonna listen to it anyway outside and it's just a dirty version and in my mind i'm like whoever was in that church that night is coming back. And to me, that's more important.

Well, if she was in that church, she wouldn't come back. I definitely wouldn't even. I would walk out right in the middle. I think the church, and I'm the wildest, craziest. I'm with everything. I'll swag. Whatever. I still think that the church should have something sacred.

Like what? Sacredness to it. Don't you got to meet people where they? You got to meet people where they are. They say meet people where they are. They take that and they run with that, though. I'm not with that. Nobody met. If Jesus met somebody where they were, he literally went to them.

Like when they come to church, they're meeting you where you are. You coming in here. That's what you're saying. That's what you're saying. I'm with here. That's what you're saying. That's what you're saying. I'm saying they should be across the street from the strip club so that when they come out not inside. Have you ever been to a strip club?

I have been to a strip club. Yeah, you have. I have been to a strip club. What birthday was it? I'm 48 now. It was one of them years when i was like forget the church bump that i'm going i'm going there i did not enjoy i went one time in my entire life you pray over the girls i didn't pray over them no i didn't i didn't pray i prayed

over myself more than anything yeah like please i did not huh why didn't you like it oh man for real well your wife is i'm never mind no no no no no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. I didn't enjoy. I didn't enjoy. I have never talked about this in my life. I said people who know me for real. I didn't enjoy the performers. What state was it?

Florida. Should have went to Atlanta. No, Florida. What do you mean Florida? Atlanta crazy. What do mean Florida? Atlanta crazy. Especially in Miami? Yeah. So I didn't enjoy the performers.

And I was like, this is why I don't belong here. Yeah, booby trap wasn't open back then. You would've loved booby trap. It's okay. Or professions. I think God was like, you got it out. You good. A little prodigal moment.

You straight. So this is what you wanted. I'm like, man, this is not what it's not. I had all the fours and fives there that night. All the tens was on Tuesday. God knew what he was doing. God knew exactly what he was doing. I don't have time for this.

Tens was on Tuesdays. I left, yo. I never, I never, ever decided to go back. Ever. It was horrible, bro. Yeah. It was horrible, man. It was horrible, man. Can you pray for this stupid show?

First of all, thank y'all for being cultural leaders, man. I appreciate what y'all do for the culture. It's amazing what y'all do here. Thank you for keeping it positive. And you crazy. Y'all all crazy. But that's who we are. We're not ashamed of who we are.

Let's pray for a minute. Okay, Father God, I thank you for this opportunity that's who we are. And we're not ashamed of who we are. Let's pray for a minute. Thank you. Okay, Father God, I thank you for this opportunity to just to pray over these blessed people and this show. I pray now, God, that you just continue to be our guide

and our lead. There are so many needs just in this room and so many needs of people that are listening. We can't solve every need. We don't know every need, but you promised to supply every need. So I pray from emotions to finances, to mental health, to physical health, to relational security. I pray that you just supply every need. Once we're in scarcity and we need, we get desperate and we do things that's not even in our character.

So may we never be insecure and may we never lack anything. And when we never fear perfect love, cast out all fear. Fill us with your perfect love today and we won't fear anything. We won't fear the enemy. We won't fear the way of the world. We won't fear anything because we are loved by you. Let everybody know for an assurity that they are loved crazy and all backslidden and all not whatever whatever state we're in it does not disqualify us from your everlasting love so embrace us with that today in the name of jesus bless everyone bless charlemagne bless envy bless jess bless this

show god let it be a beacon of light and a beacon of hope to everyone who listens let it put a smile on people's face put joy in their heart and a happiness in their day I thank you for the opportunity to pray over this and I pray in Jesus name that it prospers in

Jesus name amen amen hey I love y'all, man. Thank y'all for having me so much, man. Wake that ass up in the morning. The Breakfast Club. Hey guys, I'm Kate Max. You might know me from my popular online series,

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And we try to give you the tools to create positive change in your home, workplace and social circle. We're going to learn how to become better allies to each other. So join us each Saturday for Civic Cipher on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Welcome to Gracias Come Again, a podcast by Honey German, where we get real and dive straight into todo lo actual y viral. We're talking música, los premios, el chisme, and all things trending in my cultura. I'm bringing you all the latest happening in our entertainment world and some fun and impactful interviews with your favorite Latin artists, comedians, actors, and influencers. Each week, we get deep and raw life stories,

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