The Breakfast Club - INTERVIEW: Tyshawn Jones On Being The First Black Pro Skateboarder,Louis Vuitton; Virgil Abloh, Tony Hawk +More

Episode Date: February 18, 2025

The Breakfast Club Sits Down With Tyshawn Jones To Discuss Being The First Black Pro Skateboarder,Louis Vuitton; Virgil Abloh, Tony Hawk. Listen For More! See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Early in the morning. The Breakfast Club. Morning everybody, it's DJ Envy Jess Hilarious, Charlamagne the guy, we are the Breakfast Club. Lauren LaRosa filling in for Jess and we got a special guest in the building. Yes indeed. We have Ty Shawn Jones on a sheet that says

he is the first black professional skateboard. Is that true? No. That's what I said, it can't be the first black professional skateboarder. Is that true? No. That's what I said. It can't be the first black. I'm like, I'm not a boy. That's Lil Wayne. Hell no.

No, no, not the first black. But you are a professional skateboarder. Correct, correct. Now, how do you get to a quote unquote professional skateboarder title? Well, I always explain it to people like music, you know what I'm saying? Or not like music, like basketball. I'm saying, or not like music, like basketball. So there's phases, there's three phases.

First you go flow, let's say that's like high school basketball, then you go amateur, that's college, and then you go pro. That's NBA. Okay, and what makes you pro, is it? It's just a company, a board company has to turn you pro. Gotcha. So that's the way the culture is. Your skateboard company is who determines when you go pro.

And is your company like an agency or is it just like a governing company that looks at what you've been doing, like track record competitions? No, it's like a company that you would be sponsored by, this individual one. So I don't know, I'm trying to explain it in a way that child maybe remember. Like you remember like Zoo York. So Zoo York is a skateboard company or was previously. They don't, I don't think they make skateboards anymore,

but Zoo York would turn you pro if you were sponsored by them. So that'd be like basically like your team picking you up to go to the A. And it's a very lucrative business, that's why I understand why more people don't get involved in it. Yeah, I think it's lucrative,

and like certain people, it's wishy washy. Some people get paid, some people don't really get paid. It's kinda like, it depends, it just depends who you are, and I guess your image. I first heard about you sadly through some drama. When you got kicked in fucking Paris. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. That's what I did.

I was like, New York pro skateboarder, Tasha Jones kicked off his bike by a stranger while riding in Paris. And then when I saw the video, I'm like, oh, he black. Yeah, that was very interesting occurrence. Why was that? Did you ever find out what that was about? So I never told the full story,

I just kinda put it on Instagram because it was funny to me. I was like, because people, like you know that like when stuff happens, it's like people can't, is not gonna believe this if I tell them. Like so, and it just so happened my agent got a video. He's not my agent, he's my team manager for Adidas, I'm sponsored by Adidas.

Oh, I thought it was just a random person who had got it on video. No, so I'ma tell you the full story. And usually I'm deep, I'm with a bunch of my friends and we was in Paris, we'd go eat or we'd go into the shows and stuff, we'd tend deep, we'd ride around on the bikes. The one day I'm alone, well not alone,

but I'm just with somebody who's not about that life at all. So I'm with my team manager from Adidas and he's like, let's go get breakfast. And I'm like, okay. And he's like, you wanna take a cab? I'm like, no, let's just ride bikes. There's Paris traffic, it's crazy. So we get downstairs, we grab the bikes,

we're riding the bikes, and we get like two blocks from the hotel. And I'm wearing a Victor Victor hoodie. You know, Steve is my manager. So he deals with Steven. So he's like, I'm gonna film you because I'm gonna send Steven a video of you wearing the hoodie.

But before he started filming me, I have my skateboard and I have a bag in my hand. So like in Paris, the bikes, they're not like city bikes. They don't have a strap. So I have the skateboard in the bucket and I'm holding the bike with my other hand. So like my, what's the word I'm looking for? My balance is off.

So I'm biking kinda slow. And then this guy's trailing me, and I'm like, yo, go in front of me, bro. You see, I'm like, you know what I'm saying, go around. I got a lot of stuff in my hand, so he comes to the side of me, and we're face to face, and he's like, you fucking American, blah, blah, blah, like, you get in my country, dah, dah, dah, dah,

and I'm like. I didn't know you was American. My accent. Your accent, okay, I know you were talking, okay, blah, blah, blah, like, you get in my country, da, da, da, da, da, and I'm like. I didn't know you was American. My accent. Your accent, okay. Yeah, so. Okay, okay. Okay, so my team manager from Adidas is behind me. He's filming. No, he's not filming at this point, he's just like behind me,

and I look at him and I give him a look, like I look back at him, cause he know like I'm not going for that, so we look at each other, he's like, please Tyshawn, no, and I'm like, and I look back at the guy he's like screaming at me and I'm like get out of my face or is it gonna be an issue and then he's still going and I'm like so I kind of just like push him away from me like I give him like I'm

like move he bikes off so whatever we're like we're just biking now we bike like five blocks down like the full video's like a minute long. We're biking and the guy must have biked off, waded to the side. And I'm like, we get like six blocks down and I'm just like biking. I'm just going to get breakfast with my team manager from Adidas who's like a German guy

who's like the most peaceful guy in the world. And this guy, I just get kicked off the bike out of nowhere. I'm just biking. I just fall on the floor I'm like what the fuck just happened and hit I get up and I see the guy like zooming on the bike So then I look at my team manager and I'm like it's over like I'm I don't want to hear nothing Like I'm going to get him so I grabbed my bike and I started chasing him But you know you we from New York,. You don't know where you're going. No, no, not that. He has like one of those bikes with like the, like a throttle. So it's way faster than my bike. So I'm trying to get him.

He had Ferrari bikes. It was like a movie. Like I see him, but he's like fading away. And he makes a right. And when I get to the corner, let's say 10 seconds later. It's like three ways It's like this way this way or this way So I'm like which way he fucking go so they're not just go straight and I don't see him and I'm like Oh my god, and then I was like people like like like I was biking. I'm trying to find this guy So I was like, yo, what's up Tysha? I'm like, oh my God, someone's gonna see me fighting this guy in Paris.

But I couldn't find him, so I had to give up. And you gotta take your L. Yeah, no, no, it was funny. You pushed him first. I mean, I didn't push him. It wasn't like I was just like, get out of my face. I wasn't like, I didn't start him. I was like, you know, you in my,

somebody coming up to you and they screaming at you, you gonna be like, yo, just back up. What you doing? It wasn, you gonna be like, yo, just like back up, what you doing? It wasn't like I was like, you know, cause I didn't wanna be on that type of time and with, you know, so. And he laid and waited for you. Yeah, that's how you missed a skateboarder kick pushing.

You know how many calls I got like, yo, you allowed that to happen? I'm like, are you like, come on, bro. Like that didn't go down the way it looked, but then when I got to breakfast and he showed me the video, I was like, airdrop me that. Like I have to post that. Like it was just too funny. Like sometimes you have to laugh at yourself.

Like I don't take myself that serious. And I'd be like, like, it's nothing I could do when I'm going to go around Paris and look for this guy. So when you said, why would you do that? You didn't realize it was the guy you had just gotten into it at first. No, no, no. I was playing. I was trolling. Oh, all right, all right, all right. I was just messing around, I knew why he did it.

I mean, even though I didn't think, you know, I really did anything to him, he started with me. He was cursing at me and like screaming at me in French, calling me a effing American. But yeah, that's the full story for the world. How did you get into skateboarding? When did you think it was going to be a business? Because you know most people, they skateboard, they ride bikes for fun as a kid

But when did you say, oh this is a business, this is going to be my life So I'll tell you the story how I got into skateboarding It's really funny actually So my brother at the time, he's still my brother but we're not cool That's another funny story Damn! but we're not cool. That's another funny story. But, um. He, we were at his cousin, at his grandmother's house and her nieces and nephew lived there. And, um, you remember those TVs that like was kinda built,

not TVs, but it'll be a TV and it's like, like the, um. Got the speakers and stuff under it's like big. Speakers and then it had like cabinets where you could put stuff. The bigs were big. Exactly, and then it had, like, you remember like the. Exactly and then it had like remember like the CD things the books You could open up. I was born in So it was one of those they had that and they just had a bunch of video games in it and we wanted it and we

Knew they wouldn't like ask us. I mean they wouldn't give it to us. So we were like Let's take it. So we took like a couple of video games and put it in my private parts so like if they started looking for it they wouldn't know where it went. We don't know what happened. The way you make stealing sound? Like you just made it sound like, yeah you just, I just took it.

Like you make it sound so instant. We were kids, we were kids. We were like, I was like nah, he was probably 13. So we took the video games and one of them happened to be a skateboarding game. Tony Hawk? Not Tony Hawk, it's called Skate. It was just called Skate, they have Skate 1, Skate 2, Skate 3, and they're finally

making a new one after like a decade. So I started playing the video games and when I played the game, I was like really into video games. We didn played the game, we were like, I was like really in the video games. We didn't really go outside, I lived in Jersey at this time and I learned about skateboard and kinda like the tricks and stuff from playing the video game. And one day it was like summer, my mom came home and she was like, all y'all do is play the video game,

like y'all need to go outside. And we were like, we don't have no money. So she gave us like $60 each and then we walked to Target and bought skateboards and then from there I just kept skating and skating and I was probably like 9, 10 at the time I didn't really know I could maybe make money off of it till I was like 14. You signed with Supreme? Yep, I signed with Supreme. Before you signed with Supreme what was your connection to like fashion fashion and the arts? Because I think you talked about people in skateboarding

make money based off of your look and the brand. People know you for your look, your brand, your fashion as well too. What was that connection before you started getting to brand deals? I mean, I'm raised in New York. I'm from Bronx, Harlem, so I feel like just style and all of that

has been around. So just watching my family and stuff grow up, I was always getting fly and stuff. So I feel like my mom always kept me in like good clothes and stuff. So I will always have like cool gear to skate in. And then I guess that, you know, potentially moved on into me skating in it and then getting guess that potentially moved on into me skating in it and then getting noticed.

How did you convince your mom that this could actually be a profession? I had to beg her, honestly. I remember when the first deals was coming around, even starting with Supreme, the money was so small. She was like, they trying to play you, you look up on Google, they worth ... At the time it was 40 million. Your mom's definitely from New York.

Yeah, she was like, they not about to play my son, da da da da. And I used to cry, I had to beg her, just please trust me, I'm not doing this for money, I would do it for free. This is like, it's gonna come, I just have to build my name. I knew that if I like grinded one day, I could potentially make money and like make some real money. But it wasn't really about the money to me at that time. I was just young and I was like, I would do this for free.

So, I just needed the opportunity. I love stories like this because you know, I always say you just gotta listen to your kids and your kids will tell you exactly what it is that they wanna do. So you was playing this skate game and then when you got this money you went out and you bought this skateboard.

Like what was in your mind, like what was on your spirit that said, I know this is what I wanna do for the rest of my life. This is what's gonna change the trajectory of my life. Well I remember it was like a definitive moment where I like made a decision and I was young. I wanted to be a wrestler and I wanted to be Spider-Man too. Like that's what I was into.

Like I used to have like, I used to like really like Spider-Man. I thought that that was a profession. And I- Miles Morales or Peter Parker character? Nah, Toby Maguire. Yeah, that was that. That was that, yeah, Peter Parker. And then I wanted to be a wrestler as well. And then I, but I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like,

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I guess kind of made skateboarding, I guess, I mean, cool, or maybe we would, I'm not gonna say cool, because it was already cool, but when the hip hop artists started doing it, it kind of made it easier for you as a black kid to do it, right? Yeah. Yeah, for sure.

I feel like growing up in the Bronx and stuff, people be like, make references, Tony Hawk, obviously, who else skated? Lil Wayne, stuff like that. Yeah. Yeah. I feel like, but even though like Lupe, he's known, but I feel like certain people, where I'm from at least,

I'm not gonna say they don't know Lupe, but that's not like first to mind. Like they would probably be like, yeah, like Wayne and, I don't even know. Like I seen Pharrell. They would say Kick Push, but I don't think they put two and two together. You know what I'm saying, like I don't know if they even know who sing that song,

it was just more like a famous song. What did that do for skateboarding culture, from your perspective? I mean that was already like out, so I didn't see it first hand, but I don't think skateboarding was accepted where I grew up like it was like people used to just like kind of laugh and thought it was like funny that I skated but I was into it but I remember I kind

of lived like two lives like cuz you know I grew up in New York and like having like family in the streets and stuff so they always kept kept me fly. So when I would go to school, I would wear Jordans and stuff like that, but then I would go home and put on my skate clothes. And it was kinda like I had a double life. I would go to school in the Bronx in this crazy environment, and then I would go home, change my clothes,

take the train all the way downtown. And it was a different world for me. Like it was white people, Asian people, all different type of races just brought together by skateboarding. It's not really like color and skateboarding. Like it's just like everybody kinda having fun. That used to get into it a lot too.

Like I would always see, I feel like people always thought skateboarders were soft. Yeah. And I would always see skateboard I feel like people always thought skateboarders were soft. Yeah. And I would always see skateboarders fuck somebody up all the time with them skateboards, beat somebody's ass and beat somebody's car up. Did y'all always get into problems or trouble

where people thought y'all were soft or cut y'all off? Oh, for sure, definitely. I think like people don't associate skateboarding with like being tough, but you know, it's just like, that's anything. I'm not saying that people walk around like, I'm a tough guy, but niggas not soft. But a skateboard is a weapon. If you hit somebody with a weapon,

I've known people who hit people with skateboards and put them in a coma. You don't even play with that. It's like a metal object that could really hurt somebody. So that's like if you have to do that. But obviously, you're seeing kids, they hit the guy with the skateboard and stuff. It's happened, but it's really dangerous.

It's funny too, you said you used to get fly but then you go home and dress like a skater, but there was a time where that was getting fly for some people. Yeah, I mean, I remember the transition. At first, I used to wear skate stuff and they would be like, you look like a white boy or whatever.

But then it kinda got popular with streetwear and all that stuff and then it was more accepted. So it was funny to see the transition. But it's dope when, to me, some skaters don't like it when they feel like people come into the culture. But I think it's cool. It brings more eyes to the sport and all of that stuff. Was Virgil, I read that Virgil,

you and Virgil Abloh had a really good relationship. Yeah, we were cool. Speaking of street wear. Yeah, yeah, we were actually working on something before he passed away. It never came to light, but yeah, Virgil was cool. We would talk and we were gonna do a collaboration with my brand and Off-White that we were working on.

But yeah, his untimely demise, yeah, never came out. When stuff like that happens, do you just let the whole idea die? Or do you find something else to do with it? I mean, I really didn't have a, I didn't know what to do, you know, at that time. Do you remember what you said the first night I came over here?

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I'm solving a mystery through sex and haven't made a private dick joke until now? Like no matter how hard I try, all roads lead to... The hookup. You think it's causing people to turn aggro? I'm gonna rip your arms off and use them to f- Yeah that's a word for it. This is such terrible representation, I'm so sorry poppers These aren't just in me poppers mama always used to say God gave me gumption in place of a gag reflex

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This is 2021. I remember my modeling agent called me and told me, but I wasn't going to be like, you know, people are grieving and stuff like that. I'm not going to reach out to his family or like, you know, we, you know, sorry for your loss, but by the way, we were working on it. You know what I'm saying? Like, yeah, exactly. Like at that point to me, it was like, you know,

if they, if somebody from his team knew about it and they, and they reached out and was like, I knew you guys were working on this. Like we want to continue it, but that never happened. And it's okay, you know. What do you do to push the limit? How much do you have to hurt yourself to get as good as you have gotten?

Like how many falls, injuries, broken bones? Knock on wood, I never really, I never broke a bone. But you obviously you fall and stuff. I just think skateboarding teaches like, it's like a life lesson. You have to keep going to get over the hurdle. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, if I had a dollar for it every time I've heard like,

yeah I tried skateboarding once but I fell and I quit. You know what I'm saying? Because people don't like to fall once or twice and then they're just like, oh that hurt. But you get used to it, it's like working out. When you first start working out your body's really sore and you keep doing it and you keep doing it and you get used to it.

And you learn, you just have to like wanna, you know what I'm saying, strive to get better. I was asking, what do you do to push the limit, right? Because I've seen a lot of things you did. You work with Louis Vuitton, right? You with Steven Victor. He's a friend of the house. Friend of the house.

I've seen you jump over million dollar Ferraris in the middle of Manhattan. So what do you do to push the limit for the next generation at things that we haven't seen or things that you wanna do? I just think it's limitless. You know, like even like to the Ferrari, let's just use that as an example.

Like I try to, when I skate, I wanna like make it relatable because skateboarding to me is so, what's the word? It's just like, you don't understand it. You just see somebody flying in the air and I think that skateboarding, culturally it's accepted because people understand it's cool and it's like the, I don't know, some people won't call it a sport,

but it's the sport that the outsiders, because you do it alone, it's individual, where like basketball or something like that, it's a team and you go to a stadium and stuff like that and it's more, you could dissect it easier. Like you know somebody's running down the court, they pass, they shoot, it's two, it's three, you know what I'm saying?

Skateboarding, you can't learn everything, it's impossible because there's combos. you could jump onto this table and manual and this that, you know what I'm saying? So it's literally impossible to be able to do every trick. So, and I think that's why I gravitated to it as well. Because, you know, to me I like to keep setting the bar. But um. You still learn new tricks, you still do new things or?

Oh man, it's kinda hard. Because, I mean I try to learn new tricks, sometimes I get new things? Oh man, it's kinda hard because, I mean I try to learn new tricks. Sometimes I get new tricks, but now I'm at a point, like, you know, it's a gift that occurs, but I go to the skate park and people watch me. So it's kinda, you know what I'm saying? So it's kinda like, a little like, weird sometimes,

trying to learn a trick because people look at you at this point like, you're a professional, like they think in their mind like you probably could just land everything. So when you're trying to like go into the, like I'm trying to train kind of vibe at like a public place and somebody might be filming you or this, that's just kind of hard, you know what I'm saying? You don't see, you know, Luca in the park practicing,

you know what I'm saying? He has a private facility where he's training and he could try to learn new things. So I'm working on that right now to try to get a private indoor skate park so I can practice. Are there new tricks though? I mean, yeah, not new tricks,

but tricks you probably haven't done, you know what I'm saying? Like, I mean, sorry to keep referring back to basketball, but like, you know, somebody might not be able to go left as easy as, you know what I'm saying? Like, I mean, sorry to keep referring back to basketball, but like, you know, somebody might not be able to go left as easy as, you know what I'm saying? So they could practice that, or they can't dunk through their leg, you know what I'm saying?

So it's impossible to know everything, you know, as good as you are, you could always progress, so. You know. I know Sharla asked about what was the LV, the friend of the house thing, I told him he would explain it. And Pharrell brought you into that, was it because of the Virgil relationship

or just because he's been like watching what you've been doing? I'm sure, I don't know if it's because of the Virgil relationship. I think he's just a fan of skateboard and he obviously skateboards. He likes the sport and the culture and probably thought I was a good representative for the brand.

I guess I'm sponsored by Louis Vuitton. Does it mean you do events with them? Yeah, events, clothes, go to the shows, campaigns, stuff like that. Oh yeah. Money. Are black people accepted into skating? Like is it one of those things where it's just? Yeah, I think black people are accepted as skating,

for sure, I mean, I don't think there's like a lot of professional black skaters, maybe like 20, 25, but yeah, I think we're accepted, for sure. And what's the evolution of skateboarding? And really the evolution of you, because you know when I hear things like Skate 4 is coming out, I'm like, well damn, are you in that? Is there gonna be a film about it?

I don't know. I'm in Tony Hawk coming out, so. Oh word, oh cool. They got a new one they remastering, so that's about to come out. I was in the last one. The evolution of skateboarding, that's a great question. I don't know, is it in Olympics now?

You know, I just think it's getting bigger and better, like Louis Vuitton is sponsoring it, so I'm excited to see where it goes, and maybe it does get to a place where it's like a basketball or a football, and people really dive into it more and look at it, and you know, try to understand it a little bit more, besides just like skateboarders are cool,

or like have like a fashion aspect to them. So honestly, it's unknown where it could go. I think the sky's the limit. And Tony Hawk's still the guy guy, right? Is he the godfather of it all? For sure. I was having a conversation with somebody. It's interesting that he's the only,

like he made it it really mainstream. When people think of skateboarding, they refer to him. But it's only been one, you know? Imagine music when people thought of rap, they just like, Biggie, Biggie. You wanna be like Biggie, but there's a thousand rappers. You know what I'm saying? So that just goes to show how skateboarding

is just weird in that way that it hasn't been... Everybody who's super famous off skateboarding, they got famous doing other things. Like Tony Hawk, he's so famous because of the video games. Rob Dyrdek is Rob Dyrdek because he had the TV show. So I think there's always another element to like getting over to that real mainstream level. You know what I'm saying? I don't think anybody's ever successfully did it just being a skateboarder.

That's how you know somebody famous. I'm watching the Super Bowl commercial, the Draft Kings commercial. I think it was this weekend. What was it this weekend? Last weekend. Last weekend? And it was like, it was Kevin Hart was in it,

and The Undertaker, and Emmett Smith, and Ludacris, and Dr. J, and Tony Hawk. You know what I mean? And I'm just like, oh, that's Tony Hawk. You don't even think in it, and The Undertaker, and Emmet Smith, and Ludacris, and Dr. J, and Tony Hawk. You know what I mean? And I'm just like, oh, that's Tony Hawk. You don't even think about it, but that's just how famous he is. Because I'm not in this game. He's a name at this point. He's huge. He's actually said to myself, damn, Tony Hawk got old. Yeah, Tony Hawk has grown. So I mean, that's what I was when I was having a conversation with my peoples, he was like, who's going to carry that sword forward? I'm not saying that's what I was when I was having a conversation with my people's he was like who's gonna carry that sword forward

I'm not saying that's gonna beat me or whatever, you know, but It would be interesting to see who was able to obtain that level next You know I'm saying who's gonna be the next generation of skateboarding that the Charlemagne or the Envy's like you want to be? You know I'm saying because it only it only refers back to Tony Hawk. I don't even know how I know Tony Hawk. Exactly. I think I know him from the video games. Video games, I mean he's commercials.

I really don't know, I've known him my whole life but I don't know, I'm like why do I have a little bit of a- I feel like he's like Shaq at this point, or like a Snoop Dogg. He gets like endorsements, like he's like on a, I don't know, like a, what's the, Axe commercial or something. You know what I'm saying? So like he's like famous in like middle America

and all of these places, cause like they really watch TV and you know, all of those things. I wonder what gets you to that? I think again, it has to be another element, cause I think skateboarding, you don't understand it. It's just flying in the sky or you doing a trick or he jumped down some stairs or oh that looked crazy.

You know what I'm saying? If you don't skateboard, you don't understand it. So, you know, yeah. Do you, like, because it's not a lot of black skateboarders, do you ever have issues sometimes where like people are, like there's discrimination, racism, like that type of thing, like do you come up against that at all?

It seems like, I mean, it not seems like you're doing very well, you have all the major brands, but even with the LV thing, there's always the push for more black in the couture spaces, but you're a couture in that world, and you're also a skateboarder, and people are always, we don't know much about the skateboarding. I wouldn't say in in a brand space.

I mean obviously I've experienced like weird things throughout my career. I've been in skating since I was 13, you know. But it was maybe from like other pro skaters, but you know, not like from like companies or anything I would say. But you know, I wouldn't make it like a race thing. Like oh, it's so like diverse,

but certain things happen sometimes when you in spaces and stuff, and it wasn't like anything super catastrophic, but like, you know. I just wonder, because we don't hear much about it, like we don't hear much about, like with the NFL there's so much conversations, and in BA, I've never heard anything,

no skateboard, we gotta rage against the machine. There's so much conversations and B.A. I've never heard anything about skateboard. We got to rage against the machine. Yeah, I mean, I think that if there is like skateboarding is so small that like even if there are things that did happen, people don't really want to speak up because skateboarding is like controlled by like the people, the OGs who had the market for so long. So it's like, if you come out and you're like, maybe controversial, then they could just clip you.

And I love your hoodie, because you know, the Simpsons, that's another reason I think of skateboarding so much, because of Bart. Bart, yeah. Was that any influence? Nah, it was really just a video game. I don't know, this was a gift from a friend.

But yeah, I never really watched The Simpsons, like a couple episodes, but yeah. You saw Bart on the skateboard? Obviously, yeah, yeah, yeah. That's like famous for sure. How'd you connect with Steven Victor? Through a friend. I called a friend and I was like,

I'm looking for a Ferrari or like a sports car that I wanna jump over. I was like, I know your friend has some. Do you think he would like let me rent one from him and do it? He's like, let me call you back. And I was like, all right. He called me back like immediately. And he was, we were on three way and he's like, let me call you back. And I was like, all right. He called me back like immediately.

And he was, we were on three way and he was like, so tell him what you wanna do. And I was like, uh, I wanna like jump over your car with a skateboard, would you let me rent it? I'll like put some insurance, like I'll put some money down in case something happens. And he was like, nah, that's what insurance is for. And I was like, all right. He's been, he's crazy. And he's like and he was like, nah, that's what insurance is for. And I was like, all right.

He's been, he's crazy. And he's like, that sounds fire, let's do it, let's meet. And a friend had been coming to New York because he was living in LA, and he was like, we're gonna go to his office, and then we came to his office, and he was like, so what do you wanna do again? And I was just telling him, he's like, you think you could do it?

I was like, yeah, I think so, for sure. And then he's like, all right, we gonna set it up this week. And then three days later we made it happen. It was just something I wanted to do. I just have random ideas sometimes. You make it sound real light. Like that wasn't a typical Ferrari. Because, yeah, no for sure.

It was like one of very few. Being able to call a friend who gets Steve and Vic on the phone. No, this Ferrari is about a two million dollar Ferrari, probably four million right now. This, it has no top. It's one of those ones that, there is no fixing it. Yeah.

You fucked that up. It's a wrap. But it was, but that's why you say you make it sound like that, but it was innocent. It wasn't like so premeditated. Like I wanted to do it, but I didn't know that it was gonna be like, you know what I'm saying? No, not even just the car, I didn't know that like

people would gravitate to it so crazy. I thought, you know what I'm saying, but it resonates, you know, exactly how I said it. Like you don't know tricks, but you know that car. You get what I'm saying? So in your mind, you like, oh shit, he just jumped over a $4 million car. You know what I'm saying? And the way I first saw it, I just thought it was the car was parked and you just did it rogue. I'm like, then shit, he just jumped over a $4 million car. You know what I'm saying?

And the way I first saw it, I just thought it was the car was parked and you just did it rogue. I'm like, then when I found out that, well, I said, Steven is crazy. Yeah. Like I don't know what it was, he got too much money for a life.

So basically, Steven Victor charged you 10 to 15% for the rest of your life. Yeah, man. Just to jump over his car. We made a moment. You know, we're trying to make more. Well, we appreciate you for joining us. Thank you so much, man, appreciate it.

And we love what you do for us, man. Keep encouraging kids, man. And I'm gonna be honest with you, you're the only skateboarder I know right now. So I'm gonna be watching you. And in my mind, you Tony Hawk. So when I bring up skateboard now, I'm gonna be like, yeah, Tashaun Jones.

Killing it out here. That's right. Thank you, thank you, thank you for having me. And it's a real full circle moment. I'm not gonna lie, yeah, Tashawn Jones. You know what I mean? Killing it out here. That's right. Thank you, thank you, thank you for having me and it's a real full circle moment. I'm not gonna lie, I watch Breakfast Club on YouTube. Like I be on YouTube when I go home and I watch you guys' stuff, so really appreciate you having me. Absolutely.

I was gonna bring a skateboard to see if you could teach us all a trick, but we too old for that. We hurt. When I get the skate part, y'all come through. Say no more. All right. It's Tashawn Jones, it's the Breakfast Club, good morning. Wake getting back up. When I get the skate park, y'all come through. Say no more. All right. It's Tashawn Jones. It's the Breakfast Club, good morning.

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