The Breakfast Club - INTERVIEW: Vlad on Controversies, Feds Fumbling Diddy Case, Apologizing To Marlon Wayans, Nicki Minaj +More

Episode Date: August 4, 2025

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Vlad TV, DJ Vlad. What's up, Vlad? What's up, y'all? Glad to be back. Glad to be back. I've been doing this, what, for like a decade now? Oh, longer than that. Longer than that.

Yeah. Oh, absolutely. We go back. Good to see you, man. Thank you. It is funny, though, because the allegations of Vlad being a fed seem to increase every single time somebody gets locked up from the hip hop community.

Just is what it is, man. It just is what it is at this point. Why do you even address it at this point? When people get locked up, you come out with still like have the conversation or entertain the conversation. I mean, why not? Why not? Because it's not true.

It's not true. When you talk to the actual rappers who have gotten arrested, they'll say in interviews, Vlad had nothing to do with it. This interview had nothing to do with my case. You can go through the transcripts. Every so often, there's like a fake story. Like I remember at one point, like, there was this fake story that circulated and a bunch of celebrities like Questlove were retweeting it

where it's like, judge, thanks DJ Vlad for helping to convict K.R.I. But this white judge had nothing to do with the real judge and so forth. And it was from a website no one's ever heard of, wasn't a real website, but people were retweeting it and so forth. It's like, you just gotta deal with it, it is what it is. But when I came into the game,

I wanted to ask the tough questions. I wanted to be the 16 minutes of hip hop. I always felt like at that time, the hip hop media was really softball and they wouldn't ask the real tough questions. I came in like, yo, I'm gonna change. You know, I'm gonna change this and I'm gonna be different and that's what I stuck on this whole time.

I also don't understand if somebody sits down with you. That's what I was gonna say. And agrees to sit down with Vlad TV in front of a camera and answer questions, why is it your fault? Why? Like, why is it your fault? They can say no comment, they can say I'm not answering that, they can say it's a case going,

they can say so many different things. Yeah, and I'm also very, very careful with people. Like, I've turned down interviews when there are open cases. Really? Oh yeah. I'm surprised to hear you say that. Yeah, like for example, like Draco the ruler, when he was facing his murder case,

his manager was like, yo, he wants to do an interview, he wants to tell us side. And I'm like, you got an open murder case right now. And you know, once you beat it, like you can come and we'll talk about it, which is exactly what we did. Once he beat it, we did a whole interview. Same thing with Taxone. When he was going through his case,

he wanted to do an interview. And I'm like, you're my friend, and I don't want this interview to be used against you in this case. So I just have to turn you down. I mean, ultimately he ended up losing anyways, but I didn't want to contribute to that. And I'm like, even if you hate me after this, like I just don't want to do this.

So I'm very, very careful about it. But what happens when you- You also worked in music as well too, right? Like before all of this. I was a DJ. You was a DJ? Yeah. Yeah, I don't want-

Vlad ain't touched turntables in years now, but Vlad used to be popping with the mixtape. That's true, like I won mixtape of the year. I won mashup of the year. Like I've won just those mixtape awards. I mean, it was sure part of as well. You know, you've won your tape of the year, I won mashup of the year, like I've won just those mix tape awards, I mean it was sure a part of as well, you know, you've won your awards. When I was part of that,

I felt like I was like one of the top guys during that era, but then when Vlad TV came around, I had to shift and kind of focus on a long-term career because being a mix tape DJ, and being a DJ in general is just a tough job, as you know, as you know, and I felt like as I was getting older, I got to like think ahead 10, 20 years, this is what I've been doing my life. I want to ask, you know, as you know, and I felt like as I was getting older, I gotta like think ahead 10, 20 years to see what I'm gonna do with my life.

I want to ask, with you know, with the whole Big U, rolling 60s, they threw your name in it 1,010%. A little bit. They blamed you. They said because of their interviews on your channel is the reason why the whole indictment of all the things happened.

I've never heard that. I did one interview with Big U like three, four years ago, which I don't think has anything to do with that case. Me and Big U, you know, maintain a relationship and a friendship. We talk a couple times a year. I was really shocked and hurt when I heard that happen. I've never heard of my name connected to any of that.

Yeah, who said where that came from? Yeah. There's headlines all over. Actually, you commented back on some of them. You defended it. You did a sit down with TMZ. DJ Vlass speaks on big U of S interviews, don't indict but crimes do.

So I mean, I think. They asked me about it in general. Yeah. But not because I was connected to it in any way. Look through the whole paperwork. My name is on the paperwork at all. No, I don't. At all. I don't think it's a like,

cause even when you're, cause I know because working at TMZ, when TMZ used to come up in documents, it just comes up because they go find whatever they can. I don't think people think you're, well no, that's not true. I was gonna say I don't think people think you're actually working with the feds, like you're like an informant,

but some people do believe that. But I think it's more of like, people feel like your interviews get people to talk about things that are then either directly used in paperwork, or even if not directly, they stem to things that lead to us. But whose fault is that? That's not, I don't care, that's not his fault because they have the questions.

If I, as an interviewer, if I ask you a question about something, you can say no comment. You don't have to answer it. But if you answer it and then it's used later, that ain't my fault? People don't really realize also, like, the majority of the time when I interview people, like especially when I do like kind of the true crime type stuff, these people have already done the time for that crime. Mm-hmm. You know, so I've spoken, you know, I've spoken to people that have committed murders,

done serious crimes, like, you know, Terrence Gangster Williams, Birdman's brother did 40 murders that he admitted to. But these are all things that they've already cooperated with, they've already done their time with, and they have the right to speak on that. They've given up big chunks of their lives for the right to speak on that. They've given up big chunks of their lives for the ability to speak on that. You know, I've never talked to people about open cases on or off camera. You can talk to anybody.

Like, off camera. I don't know what you're doing in your private life. I don't know. If you want to leave Vlad TV and go rob a bank, they say, Vlad TV got him arrested. I didn't tell him to go rob that bank. So a lot of people, I mean, look, hip-hop is very street-oriented. got him arrested. I didn't tell him to go rob that bank. So a lot of people, I mean look, hip hop is very street oriented.

You know, people that are doing, you know, they're rapping and they're producing, whatever else, they're also doing stuff on the side. Like the Casanova 2 Time situation. I did one interview with him when he first started out. And then he got caught up for some other stuff way later on. I hadn't interviewed him in years and years, but somehow people said, oh, the Vlad TV interview got him locked up. But no, there's DMs, there's messages,

there's a whole case, there's snitches, there's so forth. We had nothing to do with it. He himself will say that I had nothing to do with it, but people like to connect to like, oh, he asked this question. So obviously that's the reason, but just comes to the territory. How many times have the feds came to you for audio? Maybe they felt that there was an interview that you only played a little bit part or they were looking for extras. How many times have the feds came to you for audio? Maybe they felt that there was an interview that you only played a little bit part or they were looking for extras. How many times have they reached out to you? One time.

Was that Keefe D? No. Okay. Well, no, sorry, you're right, two times. Two times. One time was with Jimmy Henschman. Oh wow. Yeah, we did an interview with him.

He mentioned a few things about his case and he was in the process of getting an appeal. Well, getting like a retrial, I guess. So the next day he called me and said, hey, listen, my lawyer listened to this and he said that this might hurt my case. Can you take it down? I said, no problem.

Like six months later, the justice department called me up and they're like, we want this footage because they wanted the original footage. They had a copy of it because people had reposted it or whatever else, but they wanted the original footage. But I said, I'm not giving it to you. They're like, well, we'll put you on the stand.

I said, well, you'll have to speak to my lawyer at that point. So I spent like $10,000 in lawyer fees and we actually blocked them from obtaining the footage. And he went, he had a retrial and he lost anyways, but I didn't want to contribute to that. Like if you're going to come and interview on my show, I'm not gonna then cooperate with the police to get you locked up. I will do my best to protect you

even if I have to spend thousands of dollars. The other case was the Kiffy D case. Las Vegas PD reached out to me like a dozen times and kept leaving messages for the raw footage and I always just ignored them. So you, I didn't know that. I thought usually they will fight you two for nail to get that footage and there was a peanut you

and all that, but. They tried for the Jimmy Henshman case. They actually took it to whoever, I think Jeff Sessions was in charge during that time and he wouldn't sign off on it. But it was a very interesting case. I think it would have set legal precedent because we put it up and then we took it down.

And they're like, well, we still want it. I'm like, well, freedom of the press, I could protect my footage. Like, but you already put it up. I'm like, well, it doesn't matter. I took it down and they're like well we still want it I'm like well freedom of the press I could protect my footage but you already put it up I'm like well it doesn't matter I took it down so if they were able to actually successfully subpoena it that was set a you know kind of a precedent for future people that took stuff down you can go back into history and so forth but ultimately I will do my best to protect you I will do my very very best. I think that's because if they want the if the feds want the evidence and you're saying that,

then they might can say you're, what's the word? What's the word? Conspirator. It's not conspirator, but it's something about blocking people from evidence. No, no, it's not a conspirator. I'm not saying I don't have it. I'm saying I'm not gonna give it to you.

It's a fair amount of evidence, but. No, no, no, no, no, no. But they have to go through a legal process. I got a criminal lawyer that went back and forth with the feds and so forth, and ultimately they weren't successful. They threatened to put me on the stand. I said, go ahead and put me on the stand

if that's what you gotta do. Like I'm not a criminal. If that's the worst things you could do to me, I'll take the stand and I'll be a hostile witness. That's what ultimately happened. You know, if you were to put those interviews up and say they were true crime, them shit would blow up.

The fact that they're kinda like labeled hip hop is what keeps them, seriously, cause true crime is them shit would blow up. The fact that they're kind of like labeled hip hop is what keeps them, seriously, because true crime is like the biggest genre in podcasting. If you was to put those interviews up as true crime, they'd be out of here. Yeah, I mean, we're talking to a bunch of networks right now. We've had like network meetings for the last few weeks

about having a Vlad TV true crime series. You know, no one's actually signed the contract yet, but you know, hopefully something like that will happen. But yeah, I've been doing true crime really for 17 years. It's a long time. Not labeling it that though, if you was labeling, I mean, don't get me wrong, black TV does great. But if you was labeling the true crime and you still can.

I mean, I still do. I mean, in my own way. Yeah, I mean, like the Keefe D interview, but we've also done a lot of really big interviews. Michael Franzese, I'm Sammy the Bull, a regular guest on my show. And we went to his whole story, a lot of Mexican mafia, Western Familia interviews and so forth, MS-13.

I mean, all around. And a lot of these guys, they now come to me to do their first interview. And that's kind of the cool part. People trust me to tell their story because they feel that I will accurately tell it and tell the whole story as opposed to just focus on a couple of things.

You get nervous with that though? Because you're talking about some real people, not rappers, you're talking about some real people that have you swimming with the fishes. I mean, look, I have armed security usually, most times during these interviews. And these people are coming to me to tell their story. They know that I don't mean them any harm.

They know that I'm't mean them any harm. They know that I'm actually benefiting them. And a lot of people, like for example, like Terrence Gangster Williams, like he came out of prison and he wanted to do his first interview with me. Now he has a full blown YouTube career. You know, he makes six digits

where he actually supports himself without having to work a job because he's still on probation. So he has to keep a certain type of job. You know, I remember one of the really success stories was that Gangster had an arch enemy named Lil Diesel that someone asked me to bring up the name during this one interview.

And he's like, yeah, you know, me and him were like at war, people were getting killed, stabbed and so forth. And the last time we saw each other, we pulled out knives. Lil Diesel reached out to me and said, hey, I wanna do an interview. I said, do you wanna do one with Terrence? He goes, yeah. So I flew them both into New York.

I had NYPD in the building. I explained to them like, listen, if y'all end up stabbing each other, you're going to get arrested. I can't do anything about it, right? So everyone got, you know, y'all got a razor in your mouth or something. So everyone got frisked, whatever else.

They did an interview. And then after the interview, they became friends, and Diesel actually moved in with Gangster, and he lives with Gangster and Gangster's mom, and now they're best friends. What the hell are you talking about? They went from archenemies that weren't, that were trying to kill each other. Like, Gangster had this whole scar down his stomach

from a fight, from a gang fight they got into, and now they live together. They're roommates. Like how crazy is that? That's a little different. Because of the interview, because I put them in the same room and I got them back together.

There's a sitcom there somewhere. Yeah, absolutely. Absolutely. That is a sitcom. There's definitely a sitcom there somewhere. Flip, glad, do you have like favorite people to interview? Because I see Boosie up there, Aries Spears all the time.

Are you like friends with them? Do they call you? Are you calling them like, yo, come up here and talk about this? Yeah, I mean, me and Boosie up there, Aries Spirits all the time. Are you friends with them? Do they call you? Or are you calling them like, yo, come up here and talk about this? Yeah, I mean, me and Boosie, we've had a relationship forever. I'm actually flying out there in a couple weeks to do another feature on him and his home.

Me and Boosie, it's a little bit more business. You know, me and Aries, we chop it up. I mean, but really, all my regular guests kind of become friends to a certain degree over time. Because I realized early on, I can't keep getting new people every single day, every single week. So I had to start working with repeat guests. And they worked out. There's certain people that really just kind of blown up. Like Lord Jamar, he's back on Vlade TV again. I'm doing him later today. And you pay.

Yeah. And I paid people. Yeah. All my regular guests get paid. How did the Lord Jamar situation get reconciled? I don't know, we never even talked about that often. Yeah, well, I mean, it happened over the Farrakhan situation. So what happened? Yeah, break down why you all stopped speaking. So I misquoted Farrakhan. And I remember me and you were talking during that time.

There was a video that was circulating that had Farrakhan saying certain things about Jewish people, but the video was cut at a certain time where he kind of explained himself later on and he wasn't really saying what inferred from that particular clip. So at the time, you know, I put out kind of a statement, but I didn't really put out an apology

and a bunch of people got pissed off at me, you know, like, you know, Jamar was one of them. So we just stopped talking for about five years. And then my whole thing was like, I was planning on doing an apology and so forth. So me and Willie D have been close friends for a long time and he's a big, big Farrakhan supporter. Been on stage with him, long conversation with him

and so forth. So I said, listen, when I do the apology, I'm gonna come to Houston. I'm gonna do it with you. So that's exactly what I did. I flew to Houston, we sat down. I knew it wasn't gonna be a softball interview because he really went hard for Farrakhan.

But he was also my friend and he respected me. He never spoke about me publicly and so forth. So we did the interview and it came out. And then, you know, it had a lot of good, like, you know, people like Killer Mike called me to thank me and, you know, and so forth. And Jamar just called me up one day and was like, hey man, like, he had mentioned,

cause he did this interview with his pit bull. He had like a baby pit bull in this one interview and then he had said how his pit bull recently died and he started thinking about kind of like the cycle of life and our relationship and so forth. So we got on the phone and we chopped it up. We had a long conversation, then we had another follow up conversation.

I'm like, why don't you come back and do the show? He's like, yo, let's do it. And we did it. Now we rocking back again. It makes me wonder, did Jamar, Lord Jamar feel like he just had to be like that with you because of public pressure? You know what I mean?

Yeah, somewhat, there was a lot of that. There was a lot of backlash, and it was my first cancel moment. We've all gone through it, you know, this YouTube, you know, I mean, I know for a fact I've gone through it, and the first time you go through it, you're like, damn, the whole world is turning against me, you know?

But then you start to see who your real friends are, you know, because certain people like you, you know, like we've always had a close relationship, you've never spoken against me, you know? People like Willie, people like Trey D and so forth. They may feel a certain type of way, but you know, people like John Sally, people like Michael Jai White,

like you got to see who your real friends are, who really were there for you. So it was kind of a bad experience and a good experience at the same time. You had a very controversial stance when it came to Diddy, right? People were mad at you with your stance with that. I mean, which part?

The Cassie part. Okay, yeah. So break that down. You said if a man wants to rub another man's nut on his nipples, he should be allowed to do that. I didn't hear him say that. I never said that. I didn't hear him say that.

I didn't hear him say that. I never said that. I never said that. I never said that't hear him say that. I never said that. I didn't hear him say that. He didn't say that. I never said that. I never said that. I never said that. I never said that. I never said that. You said Cassie is guilty of the same prostitution charges Diddy was just convicted of.

I interviewed three of the male escorts. All three of them said the same thing. Cassie picked them, contacted them for free cops and enjoyed the experiences. Meanwhile, she's sitting on $30 million and writing letters to the judge asking him to not be giving bail. $40 million, but. No, it was 20 and 10. It was 20 and 10. Oh be giving bail 40 million but no it was 20 and if diddy's Nino Brown she's G money yeah

it's true like I've interviewed the actual escorts I have two more escorts that are coming in today that I'm interviewing tomorrow Friday Friday two more escorts are coming in and every story is exactly the same. Cassie was with it. She would pick them out. She would actually engage with them. She was happy. There was no type of like, you know, being forced to do it.

Now one of them did say, you know, the one I'm interviewing on Friday, did say that he saw a ditty abuser, you know? And what I think is, this is ultimately a domestic violence case that has ballooned into Rico and sex trafficking and so forth, but really what it's about is domestic violence, which is if Diddy was charged with that,

he would be absolutely guilty. He's definitely a monster for doing that, but domestic violence is not this case. It's Rico. It's a criminal enterprise. It's sex trafficking, which, you know, if you look, I did an interview with Shirley Jew, because I was at the Hollywood Unlocked Awards

and I was on the red carpet, and she asked me, what do you think will happen? There's a couple days before the verdict, I said exactly what the verdict was going to be. Said he's going to beat the Rico, he's going to beat the sex trafficking, he'll probably catch a prostitution charge and probably get a slap on the wrist.

And we'll see what happens. But isn't it crazy that, usually in a prostitution charge, right? The prostitutes and the pimp gets more of the charges. But in this case, they all got immunity. Oh, they didn't get immunity. Oh, no, not Cassie.

Cassie got immunity too. Cassie got immunity. Everybody got immunity. I just thought she was self-sufficient. The prostitutes got immunity, the escort services didn't get charged. But if you're the big guy in the Rico though, right? Like if we're talking about, because how they tried to set it up was the Rico, it didn't work.

If you're the big guy, that's what you offer to everyone else to flip, because you need the evidence. You need people on the phone. You need people on the phone. You need people on the phone. You need people on the phone. You need people on the phone. You need people on the phone. You need people on the phone. You need people on the phone. You're the big guy in the Rico though, right? Like if we're talking about, cause how they tried to set it up was the Rico, it didn't work. If you're the big guy, that's what you offer to everyone else to flip.

Cause you need the evidence, you need people on the stand. So that's not uncommon. They lost the Rico. It wasn't a Rico. And look, the prosecutor got fired right after the verdict, which kind of sends a message as to, you know, they probably told her not to do it,

but she's like, no, I'm going to do it. I'm going to get him on a Rico. I mean, look, the whole thing was ridiculous. And I kind of feel like, you know, and what I feel is that when it comes to a battle, right, and we've all kind of gotten into with people in various ways, when you win, you should stop. Right? Cassie got $30 million.

She got Diddy locked up for a year. He's lost hundreds of millions of dollars. No Diddy has become the new Paws. Right? He will always be considered gay-ish for the rest of his life. He's not gonna go to any big award shows. He won't be honored or whatever else. Well, he was considered gay before that. No, but not after the come on the nipple thing. That was like, my God. That adds a different layer to the game. But Wendy Williams, I painted a pretty gay picture of Diddy before. But she didn't know about the come on the nipples.

Like that was crazy. He can't win an argument with a man again. They can just pull that out on him, right? So after all this. And then he can pull out on him. Yeah, you know? He got found guilty and after all that with 30 million in her pocket,

she publicly embarrassed him, everything else like that, she still wrote a letter to the judge to not let him out before the sentencing. Well, that's where the beating comes into play, and I mean, the prosecution didn't prove it, so it don't matter, but the beating comes into play because they were saying because she was such an abused person, she really didn't want

to participate in these things. She was doing it because she was afraid that she might get beat if she said it. That's not what the participants actually said. I mean, listen, Don the dealer, this tall guy with green eyes and so forth, he was like, she picked me, we had a great relationship. And they all said, if they felt that she was uncomfortable, they would have left. But she would pick them, she would pay them, she would be in contact with them, she would meet up with some of them on the side and sneak out.

I'm sorry, that's just my opinion. They said she didn't have, they never said she had immunity though. They never said she received immunity. They never said it on the stand, but all the other, there was a few other people that got on the stand that they did the whole immunity, like whatever that exchange back and forth is called,

they did it while they were on the stand, but they've never directly said that about her. Okay, who wants to bet that she won't get charged? No, seriously, I bet someone. Nah, she's not gonna get charged. $100,000 that she won't get charged. So yeah, she would have gotten official immunity, but we all know that she's not gonna get charged.

Question, and this is just me being objective. Do you think that, because a lot of her letter with keeping him locked up and not getting bail, at least, was about the fear of like Diddy. You feel like retaliation. You feel like, so you feel like there's no, at this point if Diddy was to be let go on bail

and even he's asking for charges to be dropped or get a new trial. If he was to just be let go, everything free. He's a changed man, nothing will happen again. People don't have to worry about nothing. You feel like that? I think that Diddy is terrified of Cassie. I think there's no person on earth

that Diddy's more scared of. I think he's more scared of Cassie than Suge Knight. Really? Yeah. I don't think Diddy fears nothing. I think he's terrified based on what she's done. I think she knows about it. I think there's a whole lot more that she is.

I think there's some more stuff in there and so forth. It can't get no worse. He's like, can it? She has $30 million. She can afford green berets and Navy SEALs to surround her house if that's what she wants. Like she has multi-generational wealth. Multi-generational, yeah, generational wealth.

And look, I mean, I went at it with Tony Busby on Pierce Morgan. I saw that. Yeah, yeah. I went in, I went in because look, you have 100 victims that all claim they were drugged and raped by Diddy, but nobody in the Fed case could prove they were drugged and raped by Diddy.

They're all found not guilty, you know, he was found not guilty of all those charges. You know, so you mean to say that all those hundred victims were not part of the trial? I just think it was a bullshit lawsuit. That's why me and him went at it. How much would you pay for a Diddy interview, Le? The first Diddy interview? Yes. Probably drop like a hundred thousand.

I'd drop a hundred thousand for the first Diddy. That's your number though. You have to do a little better for Diddy. I mean, listen, he's rich. I don't think you can pay Diddy. I don't think there's enough money, because he's still probably worth hundreds of millions of dollars. There's certain people that like,

you can't really pay because they're not gonna do it. They're gonna do it because they wanna do it. Has anybody reached out from his family that wants to sit down? Okay. You recently had some comments about Nicki Minaj as well. Snitchy Minaj. Do you really think what she did with snitching

was she talked to Anna Luna about Top Dog threatening her life? I mean number one Top Dog did not threaten her life. There was this other guy that worked for TDE I think he was like a dj or something like that. I forgot his name But he made a comment that said oh, you know, nicky don't want with td. You see what kendrick did, you know She don't want to be in the blender and suddenly she's like tde is threatening my life at fbi at CIA.

And then like Luna was like, we're gonna investigate this. It's like, you know damn well nobody threatens your life. You know damn well nobody threatens your life with that little comment, Nicki Minaj. So you turn around, people call me the fans, but she's literally tagging the FBI and CIA, talking to representatives who are investigating the FBI and CIA, talking to representatives

who are investigating the situation? Yes, snitchy menage. How do you know? How do you know that they didn't? How do you know someone did not threaten her life though? She's basing it on that. That was a direct response to some guy going on live saying, oh, you'll get put in the blender.

Do you really think that this guy is going to chop her up and put her in a blender? Like, seriously, seriously, come on. I'm sure the barbs went at you for a couple days. Oh, they still go at me. But I thought the put in the blender was slang. Exactly, it's rapping. She's a rapper, it's rapper slang. Cut it out, cut it out.

I don't know what she's on, but this tirade she went on and the whole thing of calling SZA ugly and so forth was like, SZA really don't bother nobody. You know what I'm saying? She really doesn't bother anybody. Did the bar go crazy on you? Yes. See, he said they still do.

Yes. What's the craziest thing a barber said to you? Oh, we're gonna kill you. We're gonna kill your family. Like that type of stuff. Put you in a blender. Put you in a blender. Yeah. So you don't, like in type of stuff. Put you in a blender. Put you in a blender. Put you in a blender. So you don't contact, like in no moments you don't contact nobody?

No! No! You gotta put it on record. You don't care? No! No, no, I look at it. Did you win the balls with a ju? No, not the balls.

It's okay, me neither. What about the two? No, now someone shows up at my house. We did it too, but we not talking about that. Yeah, if someone shows up at my house, then yeah, then yeah, I'm gonna absolutely contact the authorities. Oh, yeah, definitely.

Or I'm going to protect myself. Yeah. One of the two. But yeah, like we all, everyone in this room knows there's the Internet and there's real life. And the two are rarely related. These same people that say they're going to kill you on the Internet, they meet you, they want a photo. That's real life. When I walk around, I'm loved.

People wanna take pictures of me. You guys, I'll go through this. This is not just me, this is everybody. They wanna take pictures of me, they wanna take pictures of the kids. They tell me how much they love my interviews and so forth, but on the internet, you would think that I'm hated, but that's not reality.

But also the game needs villains. I don't have a problem being the bad guy. Yeah, I'm the bad guy sometimes. I'm cool with it. Yeah, me too. I don't need to be in Avenger. You know what I'm the bad guy sometimes. I'm cool with it. Yeah, me too. I don't need to be an Avenger. You know what I'm saying? I can be part of the Black Order with Thanos.

You can be Dr. Doom. That's it. That's cool. Has there been somebody you interviewed that walked out, was like, I'm not doing this? Walked out? In the middle of the interview. I mean, Ugly God did at one point, I think he apologized.

He was going through a lot of like personal, like mental issues and we talked about that afterwards. Tretch kind of walked out at the end. My Tretch walked out. Tupac questions, you know, we were just talking about the Tupac murder and so forth. And I think Tretch feels that he was assassinated and there was more to it.

And he started to get kind of emotional. So he kind of, he didn't like storm up, but he got up and was like, man, you know, I can't talk about this anymore and so forth. But in general, like I don't do, I don't keep pushing people to the point of them like snapping. You know, it's just not my style because I also,

I'm not trying to have a platform where people wild out and storm out and so forth. Like that's, you know, Adam is a little bit more like that. He kind of likes that. But if you look at my platform, I've never really been into that. Has anybody ever told you a story that got you emotional? Yeah.

Yeah. A few times. A few times. The girl Mia from the Tay-K case, when she was talking about her sex trafficking and what she went through and being like a teenager and being forced to have sex with a bunch of men in motel rooms and being forced to be a stripper and so forth.

That got me a little emotional. A few times, a few times I started to kind of cry a little bit on camera. What about the date 26 interview, right? When you had Q and him crying. Yeah, I didn't personally get emotional during that, but that was kind of a crazy interview. Yeah.

Because I've had a person cry. I mean, I probably have maybe a dozen interviews where people have cried on camera, but I've never seen a whole group of people just start to cry at the same time. And- They cried in harmony. Yeah.

Cried in harmony, yeah. And that was crazy because they was up here a week before. Yeah. But that interview was done already though. Oh, OK. So they came to you first. OK. No, I don't think so, was it? When did you take them?

I think they came to y'all. You left at breakfast. I think you guys had them first. Yeah. I thought you texted me one time. It was like, damn, I was sad. But when we did our interview, I think you was like, when I release it, you're going to see them crying.

And the reason why, I thought. I couldn't. Maybe I'm wrong. I'm pretty sure they came to you. Maybe I'm wrong. I don't know. These dates kind of start to kind kinda meld a little bit. Did you ever find out why they all cried?

Well, I think Q talked about it later. He said that he was drugged. He claimed Don drugged her, which she's denied. And then he woke up in a room and everyone was laughing at him or something. And I don't know, she denied the whole thing. I don't know, I don't know. They didn't give a fuck about Dawn Alcassi's testimony.

One of the jurors came out afterwards saying that that was Dawn they thought was the least credible. Well he was an alternate juror, if he had to actually work go in he would have thought she was least credible. What did you think of G Herbals challenge to you in academics? He said that, I think it was during

the Adam Friedland interview, he said, I challenge academics, Vlad and others, to donate money to kids in Chicago since they made money off their pain. His exact quote was, I feel like all those kinds of guys, what they should do is give to a nonprofit organization in Chicago, I'm gonna challenge them to do that, like academics, Vlad, all you N-words

that made money off the culture and people dying in bloodshed and shit like that, go donate 20 grand and 50 grand to a nonprofit organization that focus on just the betterment of kids. So it's a two-part question really. How did you feel when he called you the N-Word? Out of all that, that's a big honor. I mean, look, at the end of the day,

the obvious response, you know, that the knee-jerk reaction is like, well, what about you? You say the day, the obvious response, you know, that the knee-jerk reaction is like, well, what about you? You say GDK in your lyrics, you know, that's gangster, disciple, killer, and you have all these violent lyrics, but. G Herbo does a lot though. What's that?

G Herbo does do a lot in the community. Yeah, I mean, look, at the end of the day, I think we could all do things that kind of help out. I think we all have a part in it. I think me, academics, and G Herbo, and a lot of the other drill artists have a part because we all talk about it and we all publicize it and you could say that just putting it out there could create, you know, negative situations. So, you know, I've been talking to G Herbo's people about doing an interview

and actually talking about it face to face on it because I think that in that situation, the interviewer, I forgot what his name is. Adam Friedman. You know what's funny? I Adam Friedman. Friedman. You know what's funny, I just did academics. This guy, there's a picture of him in blackface. Really? That interviewer.

Yeah, like academics actually pulled out the photo. So this dude's a racist. You know what I'm saying? And I think he was purposely poking the bear to try to get a reaction out of Herbo. But I've interviewed G Herbo since he was a little Herb. Right, we have multiple interviews. I think that we could all, instead of saying,

and start pointing the finger at each other and saying, you're doing this, you're doing this, why don't we all come together, maybe donate together? Because we all have a part in this in our own way. Nobody's completely innocent. But ultimately, when you look at Vlad TV interviews, and I've interviewed a lot of these Chicago guys, when I bring up certain beef situations,

it's always in the context of like, can you guys work it out? A lot of these guys, I know both parties. Like for example, you look at like the Young and Ace and Fulio situation, I've talked to both of them about possibly working it out. I can get both of y'all on the phone. They didn't wanna do it.

And ultimately, you know, Fulio got killed, not because of the young and ace, but, you know, through other situations. But it's like, I always try to de-escalate situations. I told FBG Duck he should move out of, you know, Chicago multiple times. And then the worst possible thing happens. Like, you see this a lot,

but I've always tried to get peace with people. Just like I talked about with the Terrence Gangster Williams, a little diesel situation. I try to bring people together and get them to be cool with each other. Because a lot of times when people can get on the phone and have an actual real conversation, like look, me and you have had problems. How do we fix it? Conversation. Me and you had little issues over the time and we fixed it. Like these are all grown

adults. We can all fix it. But the problem is nobody talks to each other. People look at comments, people at social media amp them up. They have their friends around them that tell them, fuck them, we're not gonna do it and so forth. And then it gets worse and worse and worse.

And then people try to outdo themselves, because the worst thing in my generation in terms of diss tracks was Tupac, when he said, I'll fuck your bitch. And everyone was like, oh, we can't get any worse than that. It got worse than that. Chief Keef came around and suddenly it's like smoking my ops. And then Fulio came around doing videos, you know, in front of people's grave sites,

holding up pictures of the people that were killed. Some of them were like teenagers. You know, and I remember there's an interview with Boosie, in my next Boosie interview, I'm gonna bring this up. I said, yo, someone's gonna try to out ignorant each other. You know, someone's trying to out ignorant the game. I bet you someone's gonna dig up one of their enemies. Why they already tried it?

And after I said that, someone blew up a grave site. Yeah. That's crazy. What's next? They tried to do that, and said that, someone blew up a grave site. Yeah. That's crazy. What's next? They tried to do that. And remember somebody tried to do, it was Pop Smoke's grave. Pop Smoke's grave.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Got desecrated, you know what I'm saying? Like it's... I think it's easier to have conversations when you and a person had a previous relationship. Like it was easy for me and you to have a conversation because we were actually friends, and still friends, you know what I mean?

And I felt like I did something fucked up, you know? So I reached out. So I think it's different when you actually have a previous relationship with somebody. Yeah, but even people that don't really have previous relationships, like me and Joe Budden ran into each other, I think in December. And, you know, I saw him looking at me.

We were at Brodorf Goodman. I looked over, I'm like, oh shit, it's Joe Budden. He's like looking at me. I walked up to him, we shook hands. We had a short conversation and then that's it. I spoke about it publicly, he spoke about it publicly, the stories matched up and it was like, yo, like we don't have to keep going at it.

And most times it's like people think that they have to in order to go viral and so forth. When most times it's like, it doesn't really accomplish anything. Especially when you talk about media. I've always been very big about reaching out to media people early. Like I was the first person to reach out to you

when you were in South Carolina. I put you on a national list. Yeah, way, way back. 2002 or three. Yeah, 2003, somewhere around that time. So I've always academics, Adam, Sean Cotton, Trappler Ross, 1090 Jake, everybody, I've reached out to all these people,

I've offered any sort of help that I could do, I've brought them on my platform, I've done their platforms, and I feel like we could all be better off if we all worked together as opposed to beefing. I think media people beefing with each other is stupid. Absolutely stupid. Yeah, see, I don't know that new generation,

but to your point, it's like yeah, me and you known each other since Columbia, South Carolina, you put on beef DVDs. Academics, I knew Akwann, Akwann was doing college radio. I'm DJ Akademic's first interview ever. The first person he ever sat down and interviewed with me. Joe Button used to come to South Carolina and be hanging out at my apartment.

Really? Yeah, I didn't know that. So it's just like, yeah, it is kind of strange. But I think it's harder because a lot of people who don't know you only get the perception of what people say about you and then what they see online. Because there's been times where you've even come out after tweets and you've apologized for certain things with the girl from Princeton

and then the boss mandilo stuff. But people don't know you before that, they just know what people say about you. Some of this is Vlad's fault though, because I don't know why Vlad decided to be a personality. Vlad could have just been, you could have just been asking the question, but then you started deciding to be a personality

and coming at people, that's kinda it. Your tweets be like, I feel like, oh, he gon' be. They go viral, yeah. Sometimes I'm surprised, I'm like, five million impressions on this random ass tweet. Like, 10 million impressions. I am sometimes. You know what you be doing.

You know how to work that album. I do, I do. But then again, I don't know what's gonna take off. Like, it's like, wow, like this is all World Star and Shade Room and people are having interviews about it and so forth. I didn't think, I don't know. Like, I never thought that this would be what I was doing

in my life. Like I was just a hip hop fan. I bought every source magazine, I bought every XXL magazine. I was just, you know, neurotic about loving hip hop. And I just thought that I was gonna be a fan for the rest of my life. And then at one point, it turned into something else.

So the fact that I'm here is always like a shock. So when people recognize me in public or when these tweets go viral, I'm always just flattered more than anything else. Speaking of, you know, people just communicate and get on the phone and talk and have you and Marla Wayne's settled y'all differences? No, I texted him and you know, I apologize. I was going through a really rough patch. I was going through a really rough patch in my life. And he just happened to be interacting with me at that point. And the thing about that was, he had asked me through his representative, he wanted $40,000 plus 30% of all future revenues to do an interview.

And I'm like, you don't charge anyone for that. Like, one of the ways he's been here multiple times. How much you guys pay him? Breakfast Club doesn't pay though. We don't pay anybody. You do, but you have a reputation for paying people. Okay. All the interviews he's done.

I know all the platforms. I personally know the people that he's done all the platforms with. Nobody has paid him for interviews. Or no one's paid him any sort of significant amount of money. But I felt like him hitting up for 40,000 was just sort of like, well, just say you don't fuck with me. Don't ask me for this crazy amount of money.

But me and him had a conversation. He was very cool and very polite about it. And I was just being an asshole. Like I said, I was going through a bunch of stuff and I just decided to make it public and that turned into a whole back and forth to a whole roasting session where he roasted me, I roasted him and so forth.

But, you know, when the dust settled, I'm like, he didn't deserve any of this. That's very mature. Yeah, I say, I was just being an asshole. Like I was just being a jerk because when it comes to interviews, and you know this, like, I'm really, I really just like, I take it too personally sometimes

because this is my whole life and this is my legacy. This is what I do. So when there's someone who I respect and I feel like I have a platform, I have a big platform that if you do Vlad TV, you're not doing me a favor. Like this is going to get out there. This is going to cause you to get more business, more shows. Like people's entire careers were built off

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Listen to San Diego FC Behind the Flow. Now on the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Especially comedians, because I've always been so locked in with comedians, from Aries to TK Kirkland, who constantly says that he's been helped out by doing Vlad TV interviews, to even like the newer guys,

like Will Mills and stuff like that. I've always reached out, because I've been a comedy fan. So I just felt like, you just hit me up for this type of money, but at the end of the day, it was just a business conversation, it should have been kept private, and I was being a jerk about it so I personally apologized in a text message he didn't respond. Oh to Marla? Yeah. Oh okay. Yeah we had each other's numbers so you know he didn't

respond and you know he spoke about it I mean you guys you know had him on your show and so forth and I think he's still a little salty about it and that's his right I understand I don't expect my apology to ultimately hit home every time but he knows what what it is. So if we run into each other, we'll probably have an in-person conversation. If he wanted to come down, the door is still open. For him, absolutely. Not for 40,000. What would you pay him? Maybe like 10. Maybe like 10. I mean, his number is his number. Marlon Williams is a big star. Yeah. I understand. Your number is your number to a certain degree, but at the end of the day, there's also the market, right? So for example, you know, you look at like a standard, you look like an Aries Spears being him talked about this, right? Aries Spears does clubs.

He's always booked in clubs. Now he could tell his agent from here on in, I'm only doing stadiums. If it's not a stadium, don't call me. You know what's going to happen? No calls. No calls. So you could say that your number is this, but the market a stadium, don't call me. You know what's gonna happen? No calls. He's not gonna have any calls. So you could say that your number is this, but the market and the views don't support that. And what I said was like when he did, the Breakfast Club last time, it got less than a million views.

Now I think he got over a million on Breakfast Club. How much he got on E-Night? I thought he posted it, it was like, see I did, did, did. No, no, that was sharp. He comes a lot though. Yeah, he did. Look up the last Breakfast Club interview with Marlon Wayes. Look at the numbers.

Let's see. Cause I think he's been here since the... He comes a lot of times. A year ago, he got an interview that did 400,000 on Breakfast Club. 400,000 is about $5,000. But I think... Okay, no, no, no, I know YouTube.

400,000 views is about $5,000. And you guys are a big platform. Where we have a similar size overall. You guys do radio, but on YouTube we have a similar size. But then he was here a year ago, that was a year ago, the one that got 400, he was here nine months ago and he got 800. 800 views.

Okay, so that's $10,000. But around the time of, around the time of- Where does the $40,000 come in? You see what I'm saying? He did Shannon Sharp right after y'all thing. Yeah, 9.8 million. And that went crazy. Those numbers look a little sketchy.

Come on, P. Brown. Those numbers look a little sketchy. It's OK to say you were the wrong black. No, every other platform does this number and suddenly it's this number. Those numbers look a little sketchy. A little sketchy. But, Shannon, I mean, 10 months ago,

Club Shade Shade was a big part of the out group. You know how that works, too, on YouTube. I'm just saying, see, 10 months ago, club Shade is a big part of the algorithm. You know how that works too on YouTube. I'm just saying, when you, you know, every time you do a platform, you get this, and suddenly you're like 10 times that, I don't know. And then it also depends on what you're talking about too. Yeah. You know what I mean? Yeah, and it was the follow-up interview

after our beef and so forth, but I don't think that was even addressed in the interview. No. So. I don't know if it was. No, it wasn't. Can we talk about that for a second? Cause you've been on YouTube for a long time. Yeah. YouTube does favor new, right?

Well, brand new clips. Well, I mean, just brand new interviews. Yeah, brand new clips. Yeah, new is favorite, absolutely. Yeah, but even new platforms, I think. No. You don't think so? No.

Okay. No. Talk to me. No. I mean, look, YouTube does a great job that if you have a strong video, that it'll get it out there. But I mean, if you don't have the subscribers

and you don't have the following and it's not being viewed and viewed and viewed, TikTok is pretty good at that. You could have a TikTok page with 1000 followers and suddenly get like 5 million views, but YouTube is not like that. YouTube is shadow banning us, blacklisted us. Really? What, theylisted us. Really?

What, they've sent us emails that say like, this content doesn't necessarily violate our terms and agreement, we just deem it inappropriate. Like what? And you know when it started? It started after January 6th, when I gave Don Quijote a day to who I called vanilla ices, the people who stormed the Capitol.

And that's when they first sent the thing. I'm like, how is this inappropriate for me to get him done here today? And it's been kind of like, I mean, but you know, it varies. Look, we shout out to Marlon Waynes, man. Like he's a legend in what he does. And I apologize publicly. I know that he didn't accept the apology,

but at the end of the day, I was wrong for putting personal business out in the public. And that's what I apologize for. But I still will say $40,000 was just a number that wasn't reasonable. So was it, I would think it would be the 30% of revenue that comes from the content. You tripped over to 40,000.

Well, the 30% wasn't reasonable either. You know, now if it was nothing in 30%, then that would have been an interesting conversation. But 40,000 plus 30%, I mean, we would have to get like 30 million views to like break even. Like it's really like a huge amount that didn't really make sense based on his overall numbers. Now if it was Cat Williams, it'd be a different conversation.

Gotcha. What was your biggest interview that got you the most revenue? The interview with Roger Bonds went crazy. Oh wow. Yeah, so Roger Bonds was Diddy's head of security for like 10 years. And he firsthand saw the abuse between Diddy and Cassie

as well as all the other crazy stuff that was happening. And we did the interview right before Diddy was arrested. So it was doing okay, but then when he was arrested, suddenly it went crazy. And just kept going crazy for like a couple of months. How much did it do, views-wise? Like, oh, I mean the full interview did like maybe two, two, three million views,

but then all the clips did a lot and so forth. So it did some big numbers and I had him back since then. Why don't you think he wasn't on the stand? Cause he wasn't called. They contacted him. They contacted his lawyer, but they ultimately didn't bring him on, which surprised me a little bit.

But I don't know. I thought the feds fumbled that whole case period. So it doesn't totally surprise me. I feel like you get more views for things outside of hip hop. Sometimes. Yeah. Sometimes.

But you know, Vlad TV has never been the darling of the music industry. You think about it. Like we don has never been the darling of the music industry. You think about it. Like, we don't really work with any of the labels anymore. If we work with artists, it's usually directly from the artists. Like all the PR, you know, sections of the labels like don't rock with me. So we had to figure out how to do it. We had to go outside, you know, outside the box.

We had to start bringing in people that other people really weren't, you know, rocking with and they're ignoring. So this is where some of the guests that became regular guests, like Lord Jamar was not like a hot hip hop artist at the time that I brought him on. He became a big personality because we kept putting him on. I mean, brand Nubian hadn't put out, you know, music in quite a while. But you know, I always try to just sit there and kind of think outside the box.

Like I'll be watching Netflix, and I'll be like, oh, okay, you know, the man with a thousand kids. That sounds like an interesting interview. Let's fly him in from Amsterdam and have a conversation with him. It'll be like that. That's always been my mentality.

We've talked about this a million times. Like I feel like the whole hip hop media thing, it's a glass ceiling, right? Because you're only gonna interview Jay-Z once, if at all. If at all, yeah, I've never interviewed him. You know what I mean? Like you're only gonna get these interviews like once. So it's just like, why can't hip hop personalities

talk to people outside of hip hop? And why do you get penalized for that as a hip hop media journalist, whatever that means. I mean, I don't consider myself a strictly hip hop media personality. Like I've always been outside the box. So I've never looked at it that way. And like I said, a lot of it is because I had to do it.

Now look, if I was on the list for every promo run for every big artist, I'd probably be focusing more on just hip hop and music, but I don't get that luxury. No, you wouldn't, because it's still not a lot of those. How many of those have we seen this year? Not too many. Push, the clips, cause it's still not a lot of those. How many of those have we seen this year? Not too many. Push to the clips, who else? Like seriously, think about it.

Like these artists don't be doing those runs like that no more. Kamala would have been a big interview for you. Why did they ever tell you Kamala Harris? Oh Kamala, we reached out. We were having conversations with her. Did they ever explain to you why they passed? No, no, but she fumbled a lot of stuff during her,

you know, during her campaign. And I've publicly said how it was a huge mistake for her not to do Joe Rogan. I think that she had a, she had more of a chance of winning if she had done Joe Rogan because Joe Rogan did Trump and did Elon Musk, JD Vance, JD Vance. Exactly. Both of them came in, sat with him for hours.

Whereas Kamala said you have to come to me and you have a limited amount of time. JD Vance. JD Vance, exactly. Both of them came in, sat with him for hours, whereas Kamala said, you have to come to me and you have a limited amount of time. And I just thought that was a mistake. And I think if I had done a Kamala interview, we had like multiple hours that could ask whatever we want, it would have been like her biggest interview probably in her life, honestly,

because I really would have really gone in and so forth. And I voted for Kamala. You know, I have pictures of me voting for Kamala. So, you know, you think our biggest fumble was? Um, I think that at the end of the day, we didn't really know who she was. I agree. Love him or hate him, Trump was transparent. He came in and did all these podcasts, you know, and he did all these talks for multiple hours and he got to know who he really was as a person. I think Kamala to this day is still an enigma. And I think that the people just didn't connect.

And look, at the end of the day- She announced her book today too. Oh, did she? Yeah, she dropped a book called 107 days for pre-order. Okay, that's cool. Like I voted for it. I like Kamala.

But it was just one of those things where people who supported Trump were gonna come out, they're gonna bring their friends, they're gonna tell everyone, they're gonna campaign and so forth. People when it came to Kamala were a little bit, I don't know. I don't know. I don't know.

And when you saw the final numbers, the last time you saw a blowout like that was, I think, Obama's first election. It wasn't a blowout though. It was a blowout. She lost all the swing states, but when you look at the actual raw numbers. It was a blowout.

But actual, like look at all the votes of Trump versus Kamala. Yeah, you look at the actual raw numbers, it wasn't a blowout at all. Like it was like it was not even not even I don't tell you right now. It wasn't a blowout. She did lose all the swing states. I thought it was a couple million. Hold on. I'm gonna tell you right now.

Look at the last time you've seen that type of gap in a presidential election. It was Obama. I remember I looked it up. So you're talking about what 15 years? I'm gonna tell you right now. And she lost a lot of states. Yeah, Kamala had 75 point, I mean, a little bit over 75 million votes and Trump had a little bit over 77 million votes.

That's a couple million. Yeah, so it was the- Okay, well, I think- Like the matter of fact, the percentage of the popular vote, Kamala was 48.3, Trump was 49.8. So it's just- Okay, okay, you're right. I think what I'm talking about is the actual,

when you look at, what do you call it with the states? The states- Swings things. Swings things. Swings things, yeah. But when you count the, what do you call the votes in the states? Electoral college votes.

Electoral college votes. Electoral college votes. Electoral college votes. That's what I'm talking about. Compare that. It was 226 to 312. That's a blowout. 226 versus 312?

That's what I'm talking about. Last time that happened was Obama's first election. 226 versus 312 that's what I'm talking about last time that happened was Obama's first election 226 versus 312 that's huge it's pretty big it's pretty big it was a letdown yeah what what who do you want to talk to who do you want to sit down with that you haven't yet that's been in the works maybe it could happen can't happen who is that one person that you said I would love to sit down and talk to them we We're trying to make it happen. I Mean this can't happen anymore, but me and OJ Simpson we're in talks

We were about to do it I'm gonna pay him a hundred thousand Right me and you know, he had to go to like another guy because he had lawsuit that he wasn't paying back Marlon is gonna be pissed when he is because he had a lawsuit that he wasn't paying back. Marlon is gonna be pissed when he hears this. Go ahead. So, me and OJ Simpson were supposed to do an interview. They just said, don't get too deep into the blood evidence

and stuff like that. And I said, that's cool. You know, I'll touch on the trial, but I'm not gonna go on. I didn't think, well, I don't even know why it mattered at this point, but go ahead. Right, so it was all set up, and then it was like, okay, he wants cash.

So I talked to my account, and they're like, okay, we can do cash, they just have to fill out a W-9 and do an invoice, whatever else. But you couldn't give it to him directly. I didn't give it to his man, right? I said, okay, cool, we'll do cash. And he's like, okay, I need the full amount before he gets out the car.

And I'm like, yo, he owes like $10 million. He's never paid, like he's a crook. Well, he's bringing up somebody's personal shit like some other shit when he gotta get somebody some money. If you have a reputation of not paying people and you want all your money up front. And I even said, look, I'll give them 50,000 upfront and 50,000 at the end of the interview.

No, they would not budge. They would not budge. So business-wise, because look, my fear was like, we get 15 minutes into the interview, I ask him a question he doesn't like, and he walks out. What am I gonna do? That's great though.

I'm not gonna shoot him, like you know, I'm not gonna tackle him. Like I guess it's like- But you know that's great for views. Especially- You get OJ to work out. It's not 100,000 great for views. Like it's a viral moment,

and everyone will take that clip and run with it. People think like viral does not always mean money on the back end. But depending on the question you ask him that causes him to walk out, OJ Simpson, that's international news. Okay, possibly, but I can't, but that's not what I'm here to do. I'm not here to have a viral 10 seconds. I'm here to actually get OJ's first real sit down interview talking about his whole life. And ultimately he passed away, so I never got it.

Would it have probably gone well? Probably, but as a small business, I can't take $100,000 risks. I mean, I could, but it's not good business sense to do that. I'm a CEO, I have a dozen employees, I have office space, I have people who depend on me to pay their rent. So I can't just sit there and gamble 100,000 with someone who doesn't wanna work with me.

You think OJ did it? When were y'all in conversation? Like how close to his passing? Like a year. Okay. You think OJ did it? Yeah. Were you gonna ask him about, did he do it?

Was that gonna be one of the things? I mean, I would've danced around it somewhat. He wrote a book, it's fair game. Yeah, I did it. Yeah, if I did it. If I did it this year. I think he did it, because I mean, I even interviewed Kato Katelyn,

who was there when it all happened. And he was telling me how like, after it happened and everyone's in the house and Kato's in the house, and he was like, yeah, Kato was with me the whole time, he knows that, Kato's like, I was not with you.

We went to McDonald's and came back and then you disappeared for a while. You know, he's like, I gotta get the hell up outta here. I do wish, you know, and I'm glad, that's why I'm glad you started that series where you're talking to people about their business and how they make money off YouTube. Because like the stuff that you just said

even a little while ago, like just that business aspect of it, it's not worth 100,000. I wanna hear more of that. Cause I think that these kids are delusional as to what people are making online. Well, okay. So if you go to the Vlad TV YouTube channel, youtube.com slash Vlad TV,

we have two tiers of membership. So we have the regular tier. So for $5, you can get the full interview on the first day. But then there's a hundred dollar tier, which is the Vlad TV YouTube masterclass, where I actually have exclusive interviews where it talks about, you know, with people like academics and 1090 Jake

and people like that, that actually have shown how they've built their YouTube businesses to make hundreds of thousands or even millions of dollars off their channels. Well, as I have lessons where I break down exactly what I did, I actually show my studio, I show the equipment, I show the money that's made and so forth, actually showing people

how to build up YouTube channels. And it's been great, a lot of people have joined up, we do live sessions, and I think it's really dope to kind of give back to show people, because so many people have made careers, like I said, Terrence Gangster Williams have made careers off of YouTube channels, to the point where they can just work at home.

You know, for example, like Trench's News, you know, that clip is coming out, I think, today, where he makes over 100,000 a year. He doesn't even show his face, wears a mask the whole time. And he does these stories about Chicago in his bedroom, and he can support himself and his family. He's married, I think he has kids,

to just do these types of YouTube channels, and they don't have to get like a nine to five job. They work for themselves, they decide when they wanna work, they create their own content. A lot of these guys edit it themselves also. So yeah, glad to YouTube masterclass. With the people that you're talking about, right, that's making money online and like,

they're becoming the outlets, the complex hip hop media list just dropped. And it always caused a controversy, but this year I think people were particularly arguing most about like you got Kai Sadat on the list and then Black Boy Max, you're on the list, academics on the list. Is there people that you think should not be on the list

or should have been on that list because you're helping people come up in this game that are being placed there? I think the list is relatively accurate. You were five, I was six. I'm always just flattered to be on these lists. I remember I was scrolling up from 30 and I'm like, okay, I'm not gonna be on this year.

That's cool. And then I was like six, I'm like, okay, that's cool. I got that was a little harder last year than this year, but if they wanna give it to me, I'll take that. I think everyone, like the Kais and Ats of the world, they have pushed the envelope to create something new. The streaming platform, I think Black Boy Max is like number four or something, more on that list.

Like these guys and girls have come and created something that really has not been around before and you can't deny what Kaisenat has done. I mean, he's had Nicki Minaj and all these other, Kevin Hartz and all these other major celebrities on his stream and they've all looked good being on that stream. Sexy Red, Lizzo, SZA. Sexy Red, yeah, it goes on and on and on.

And did all of that without being messy. That's true. I mean, this is all just great positive content. That's true, that's true. Look, I've never really hated, unless you've hated on me first, I've always been like, yo, that's dope. And I've had people like Neon on my platform.

I admire what they've done. Like when Neon said he spends 200,000 a month just to pay people to clip his content, you know, and that's on the Vlad TV YouTube masterclass. I'm like, huh, that's interesting, that's impressive. You know, to invest that type of money back into your own business, especially when you're a relatively young person,

I think is amazing. You guys have had one on your show. That was a whole. How you felt about the interview? I didn't really watch it, to be honest, but I guess you brought up some racist comments that he had done in the past. Everything. I didn't even know about the racist comments. Yeah, I didn't know about that either. I didn't know. How you on the internet and you don't know? I did. Like the stuff Jeff posted later, I didn't know about all that. No, I didn't know that. I knew about the Kais and that stuff, but I found that out like 30 minutes before the interview.

Yeah. I don't follow the Neons of the world. Same. I'm 52. But you don't, I mean, I didn't, so I don't follow Neon either, but when he was coming here, the minute I typed his name in TikTok,

those were the first things that came up. Yeah. Why you ain't playing, why he was there? I did. You played one. I played, we didn't, those were the first things that came up. Yeah. Why you ain't playing while he was here? I did. You played one. I played, we didn't, I mean we moved on after that. I had, we had a whole conversation before Nia came in here, didn't we? I was telling them. Why you ain't tell her? You weren't here. Not about all the stuff that she played the other day.

Yeah, we had a full conversation. Like, I mean, maybe I didn't- You knew about all that stuff before the interview? You just knew about that. No, no, no, no. Not all of the stuff. But I knew that he was relatively racist because he was saying a bunch of shit. So why you ain't say something? I didn't know about all that. No, no, no, not all of the stuff. But I knew that he was relatively racist because he was saying a bunch of shit. So why you ain't say something? I didn't know about all that. We were here saying it.

She played a video, the video that she played. I did as much as I could. She was not the Indian one. She played the father of the black one, Robin. It said black was lazy. But there was way more shit. There was way, way, way worse. I can assure you that if that was,

look, I don't do my own research sometimes. Like, you know, my assistant, Evan, does a lot of the research for me. So sometimes we miss certain things. I can assure you that if I had known about that, it would have been brought up in the interview. Because I talked about him faking his death and stuff like that.

I assure you that if it was in my notes, I would have included it. I was not softballing neon on any level. But certain things would just kind of slip past me. After the fact, it'd be like, oh, why didn't you ask about that? It be like, oh, why'd you ask about that? It's like, oh, yeah, you're right. I should have.

I know how that goes. Yeah, I can tell you, that was just a gap that we had, and I would have brought it up. But in this case, I didn't bring it up. But I brought up a lot of other controversial stuff in that interview. Yeah, same here. Do you ever get tired of people telling you

that you should be more of like a fan of the culture and not an actual commentator because you're not black. No. When the Princeton thing happened with the lady that we talked about earlier that worked there, why did you decide to apologize in that situation? Well because a person that was very close to me, you know, had a conversation about it, you know, they want to be left out of the conversations. I'm not going to say who it is, but someone that everyone here knows.

And they sort of explained to me that like, look, like this is just an online back and forth. This shouldn't affect people's jobs. So the fact that I had like tagged Princeton, you know, when I responded to her, I'm like, yeah, that was fucked up. You know, the other day though, but you guys addressed it as well.

I still feel that someone who works for an Ivy league, you know, university like Princeton, cause I went to UC Berkeley myself, which is kind of for an Ivy League university, like Princeton, because I went to UC Berkeley myself, which is kind of like an Ivy League in its own right. People of that caliber should be held to a higher standard. So when someone says, and if you look at that whole situation, all I said was the mixed quality of Kendrick's Not Like Us

takes away from the song a little bit. His actual engineer later on came forward and said, yeah, Kendrick called me and said, put this out in 30 minutes. And I had to just throw a rough mix together and throw it out. The final mix was actually improved. So all I said was, I didn't say the song was whack.

I didn't say it was important, it wasn't important and so forth. I said the mix quality slightly takes away from it. And her response was, you are white. This is black people's business. Black folk affair. Black folk affair. And I'm like, this is a Princeton professor saying this?

This is crazy. I tell you what's crazy, if you walked into some of these studios, you'd be surprised. Most of these mixes that are mixing these records are white. Are white. And look, I didn't realize, I also didn't realize at the time, based on her name,

that this is Rodney Jerkins' niece. I know Rodney Jerkins. I interviewed him at his home in Hidden Hills. We were maintaining contact. So the first thing that happened, I think maybe a day later, when I apologized and said, listen, I was just trolling. I never called Princeton.

I never tried to get her to lose her job. I was just, I thought she was trolling me with that comment. So I'm like trolling her back, right? I never did anything to that regard. And then last I checked, she's still at Princeton, right? So the first thing Rodney, Rodney hit me is like, hey man, thank you for not getting my knees fired. I'm like, I was never gonna get her fired.

So we got on the phone and then the first thing I did was like, yo, Rodney, not getting my knees fired. I was like, I was never gonna get her fired. So we got on the phone. And then the first thing I did was like, yo, Rodney, like you're a mega producer. Like my comment about the mix quality is like, let me stop you. He goes, you're absolutely right. The mix quality was bad. So I was a little bit insulted. I'm like, here's a person who is a professor,

I think in literature or something like that, telling me a DJ, someone who listens to audio every single day because I put out video and audio. Every day I got my headphones on listening to audio, I know what I'm talking about. When I say the audio quality's a little bit off and this person who doesn't know anything about audio

tells me to shut the hell up because I'm white. That's so funny here. I got kind of insulted. I got kind of insulted. I'm sorry. I thought that was ridiculous. I thought that was ridiculous. Oh my God. Listen, I know Kendrick. We've had conversations together. Like I know TDE. Like I know what I'm talking about. I was like, this is crazy coming from someone's got Princeton in their profile. But at the end of the day, from someone that's got Princeton in their profile. But at the end of the day, I didn't want her to lose her job. So let me just apologize for that part of what I said.

And she did lose her job. That wasn't a societal issue though. It was no reason to bring race into that. Yeah, it's a song. I mean, it's called, They Not Like Us. I just want to say this. Like you see Kendrick doing his like European tour. Yeah.

Just a sea of white people. We just see a sea of white people. Even in the US is a sea of white people. Exactly. A sea of white people. So they can't comment on it after they bought their tickets. I'm talking about singing lyrics word for word. Yeah. I thought that was weird for her to bring up race

when you were talking about sound quality. That's because people don't know your background. Right, and I appreciate it. They don't know you was a producer. Exactly. I think even if she knew your background. I just wanna say, I appreciate you guys for having my back on that.

Cause you guys comment on it. It's common sense. I really appreciate that. That's just honest. I was gonna say, even if she knew your background, I think it goes to the thing we were talking about earlier of people just feeling like you shouldn't be here just because of what they perceive you as because of other stuff. Yeah, well, I'm here. So it is what it is. I'm here. I'm not going anywhere.

Do the culture culture claims even bother you? No, no. What do you think about that? Do you ever look at some white people and say, okay, well, that is a culture vote, but I'm not that well, the dude with the black face, you know, the guy, the guy that did the G Herbo, the Freeman guy. I mean, yeah, if you got a black face, you're a culture vulture. You're interviewing black people, but then you're doing black face behind the scenes, so that's disgusting.

I did wanna ask you, before you go, what did you think about, and listen, a list of just lists, but what did you think about Adam 22 not being in there at all? He should be on there. Absolutely. For example, I would take Rory Maul off that list and put Adam on that list.

Yeah, cause if you look at viral moments and so forth, like, I mean, God, like remember 4th of July, Four Extra getting his hand blown off. How do we even know about Four Extra? Cause of No Jumper. That's the only reason we know about him. Like he's had so many viral moments. You know that-

But who was Four Extra? It's the guy, you didn't see the video of the guy that was sitting with the fireworks. Like he's had so many viral moments. You know that. But who was 4 extra? Is that a rapper? You didn't see the video of the guy that was sitting with the fireworks. I'm saying what did that have to do with hip hop? No, but he's a personality that was on No Jumper constantly and then he lit a firework

and it blew off his hand. And I heard it blew off half a guy's face also. It's crazy. And you know, most of the big you and Rollin' 60, all that VJ was from No Jumper. It was all on No Jumper. Yeah, it was all like, Brick Baby was a regular on No Jumper. He was also doing my show as well. No Jumper definitely affects the culture, so to leave him totally off the list, but

you put Rory Ma on the list, it doesn't make a lot of sense. I think Complex has to do a better job, or maybe all of us got to do a better job of defining, I guess, what is culture and what is determined, what is considered hip hop media? Because somebody, you know, hand blown off from a firecracker don't seem like hip hop media to me. And even the Big U stuff and all of that, that's not hip hop.

Some of them guys are rappers though. Yeah. Oh, okay. Yeah, I mean, 4X has a song, he did a song with Kevin Gates. I guess to me, when I look at it, and I'm just, I'm not even putting myself in the comments, I look at like, Gene of Views. You talking in the comments, I look at like Gene of Views. You talking about real impact, no Shadid, no John.

No, Rob Markman. I ain't talking, no, I'm not saying real impact. Like, Adam Twain too definitely has impact. I'm talking about like just people who actually comment on hip hop as we know it. The music, the culture, Rob Markman, Gene of Views, They kinda know him from Adam Twain too though. But Rob Markman, like when his last time,

something he's done has gone really viral and has really affected the culture like that. I haven't really seen it very much. But he's consistent with his content. I know, you can be consistent, but if you don't make an impact, you shouldn't be on that list. There's people that are really good at what they do,

but if you don't get it out to the masses, if it's not really picked up and it's not moving the needle, then you can't be on that list. I think the definition then has to be impact, because when I said that, because I know no jumper is like a part of the conversation. What I meant is like, you're talking about people who like doing like the rap list

and the all that. That talk music. I think Black Boy Max is a perfect person to be on there because every time I see him, yeah, he's rapping, he's doing music, he's interviewing artists, like that's what I'm talking about. But then they also mentioned coverage on the Diddy case,

right? It was somebody that did coverage on the Diddy case. It was me. But Lauren should have been on that list More about that case that did more interviews that had stations and networks calling her about that And day 26. Yeah. I don't know. Yeah. But no, that girl was in the-

And security team. But Laura was in the court every day. That is true. I'm talking about from the time they started to the time they ended. She was breaking it down. She was still keeping up and doing this. She was fighting outside.

And man, Cray Kids was walking up on the flat, man. It was like, what's a lot going on? So she should have been on there. Yeah. I mean, look, it's all a journey. You know, like some of the stuff that you do will not always be recognized. In the short term, in the long term,

if you stay consistent, like look, this is now 17 years of just YouTube, right? Before that, there was a few years of DVDs. Only been 17? Yeah, 2008. 2008, that's when I launched my channel to 2025. That's 17 years, plus I was doing DVDs, which you were, you know,

I was talking to you during that time. It was 20 years. You became in 2006? What's that? When did YouTube like start? YouTube started a little bit earlier, but in 2008, that's when they introduced a partner program, which actually turned into a real business.

So yeah, I had videos on YouTube before them, but there was just a little promo videos, trailers or whatever else. But in 2008, when you could actually start making money with YouTube, that's when I just saw the vision. I stopped DJing, I stopped doing DVDs, I stopped hustling on the side. It was like, okay, let me just do this, period, and put all my energy into it. Because this is about to be the biggest video

platform on earth. And I was right. Yeah. You know, we first started doing interviews. That had to be like 08, right? About that time, yeah. Not on YouTube. 08, 09, yeah. We were already friends during that time. It feels like y'all were a little bit later now.

I don't know why. No, because I did. What was regular? I got fired from Philly and when I got fired from Philly, I went to Vlad. Yeah, exactly. Which is crazy, Vlad, because when I left my job, we talked, or somebody from your team,

or I thought, or you, we talked a bit about me potentially coming over you'd be having like a I early for things. I tried to. Where you from? Well, originally I was born in Ukraine in Kiev. It was part of the USS at the time Grew up in Massachusetts for a couple years, but I really spent most of my time in the Bay Area So I grew up in San Mateo and I went to school in UC Berkeley So I was in Berkeley in Oakland for about 10 years, moved to New York, moved to LA, you know. Gotcha. Well, we appreciate you for joining us.

Brother, thank you for having me. How do we know you're not a spy from the Ukraine? I'm here in Ukraine. I'm here in Ukraine. I'm here in Ukraine. I'm here in Ukraine. Charlamagne need to come back to Vlad TV, man. I hit him up the other day.

I'm like, yo, it's been three years since he did Vlad TV. Cause I did academics a couple nights ago. He's like, does Charlamagne not rock with you? I'm like, yo, it's been three years since he did Vlad TV, cause I did academics a couple nights ago, he's like, does Charlotte May not rock with you? I'm like, no, we talking, but we just haven't scheduled anything. And that's how I hit him up. When I told Vlad, and I haven't told you, I wanted to do a whole, I wanted all of us to do it.

Yeah, and I said, let's do it. Like, Breakfast Club do it. I said, let's do it. But I'm like, yo, it's been three years, I've done two Breakfast Club appearances and a Brilliant Idiot appearance, and I'm like, come on. I'm like come on

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