The Breakfast Club - INTERVIEW: Warren G Sculpted The West Coast Sound, Introduced Snoop To Dr. Dre, Remembers Nate Dogg + More

Episode Date: June 13, 2025

Today on The Breakfast Club, Warren G Discuss Sculpting The West Coast Sound, Introduced Snoop To Dr. Dre, Remembers Nate Dogg. Listen For More!YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@BreakfastClubPower1051...FMSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:02:09 to your favorite shows. Wake that ass up. Early in the morning. The Breakfast Club. Morning everybody, it's DJ Envy, Just Hilarious, Charlamagne the guy, we are the Breakfast Club. We got a special guest in the building. Yes indeed.
Starting point is 00:02:23 We got a legend in here today The legendary Warren G. What's up? What's up? How you feeling brother? I'm good, man. Feeling good. Yeah. Yes indeed All right, does the East Coast time mess with you a little bit? I know how to adapt. I've been in it so long. I know how to switch it up when yeah, I'm good Absolutely straight off the BET Awards performing with Snoop for the tribute. Yes indeed, yes I did. How was that? It was fun, it was fun. From the rehearsals all the way to doing the actual show,
Starting point is 00:02:54 just vibing with everybody and seeing, you know, even seeing the other artists that was there, it was just good, a good vibe all the way around, just seeing everybody and having a good time, joking, talking shit a little bit. I wanna go for- You got the phone call you was looking for. I saw the interview that you did,
Starting point is 00:03:10 and you were saying how like, yo, I just want Snoop and Dre to holla at me, man. I don't want nothing, you know what I mean? That didn't have nothing to do with none of that. Okay, okay. No, well, I got a call, you know, I got hit that he wanted me to do the honor with him.
Starting point is 00:03:30 So you know, that's my dog. You know what I mean? So you know, anytime he need me, I'm there, man. Yes, indeed. I think that conversation was good though, because you know, when you said that on, I can't remember who he was interviewing with, but when you said that, it's like everybody started giving you your flowers. Everybody started talking about
Starting point is 00:03:48 what Warren G has contributed to hip hop, what he's contributed to West Coast cultures. I think sometimes you gotta speak up for yourself, man. Yeah, yeah. You know? Yeah, I mean, a lot of people don't know about a lot of the things that I've did.
Starting point is 00:04:03 So I speak on it in interviews and just trying to let the new generation see what I've contributed to hip hop and not let it get erased. That's right. But let's go back there. So for people that don't know Warren G, let's say, right? From the West Coast, you introduced Snoop to Dr. Dre. But before that, how did you get into the rap game?
Starting point is 00:04:30 What made you get into rap and how did you meet Dre and I guess create that family? No, well I've been around Dre since I was probably about, I say maybe 12, 11 to 12, something like that. My father married his mother, Verna. And I didn't have no older brothers. I just had sisters. But my sisters was, you know, my sisters was,
Starting point is 00:04:58 you know, they bodyguard hard. They wouldn't even laugh. You know, and I mean, that's where it started at. To your stepbrothers. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And then musically, my father, I used to, he would pick me up on the weekends, bring me to his house and play jazz all day.
Starting point is 00:05:17 So I would listen to the jazz and just fall in love with it. And to this day, he still asks me, like, do you remember Chuck Mangione? I'm like, yeah, I still got it, daddy's in my playlist. And that's what instilled the good vibe as far as in my music, the way I like to have that good feeling music, that came from that.
Starting point is 00:05:38 But as far as in the hip hop, it was just like all the groups, Run DMC, NWA, Eazy, the Fat Boys, L.A.L., everybody that was in hip hop, I wanted to be like them, because that's what was going around in neighborhoods and stuff like that. And then me being around Dre and Tyree, that I had two big brothers. Were y'all close or was it one of those things when y'all step brothers?
Starting point is 00:06:11 We was close, always. So just being the young one around, two older brothers, you wanna follow what they do. So Dre was DJing with the, it wasn't the world class record crew, it was the high powered crew with Eazy and Shane and they gonna get mad at me, I couldn't mention everybody,
Starting point is 00:06:38 but they had a crew, so I hear mix tapes all the time. So I fell in love with a lot of the music that he was mixing and stuff in the room, so I asked him to show me how to do it one day and he showed me. So I fell in love with that. I was an athlete as well. I played football and just having somebody, a bigger brother to look up to, him and Tyree, was just, that was cool, you know what I mean? And they taught me a lot, and I had to go through gladiator school from Long Beach to Compton,
Starting point is 00:07:17 just back and forth, so they had me right. They used to call me Kibbles and Bits because I used to get it in. What was the difference between Long Beach and Compton? I mean, we not from out there, so is it like two different worlds? It's pretty much the same. Only street that, it's one street that separates
Starting point is 00:07:35 is it's called Greenleaf. And once you pass Greenleaf, you're in Compton, or you go up Atlantic, right before Greenleaf, everybody from Compton coming here, it's all the same pretty much. And then you got Carson right next to us, and then you got Compton, Linwood, and then you got Watts, that's all, we call it the Mad Circle.
Starting point is 00:08:01 Yeah, and it's real close. know everybody it's damn near the same. You know Envy said you introduced Snoop to Dre but did you ever feel like you were also introducing Dre to the sound that you know him and Snoop was kind of about to define for Whole Coast? I was just trying to get us all put on. We didn't know that we was gonna, that it was gonna turn into what it turned into. But no, we didn't. But what we did when we started working on The Chronic
Starting point is 00:08:39 is we brought all the energy that we had and what we wanted to do, you know, and brought it in and put it in Adre to bring him back to where he should be, you know. So that's when we did The Chronic and we collaborated and made that a classic. You're celebrating 30 years of the Reggae-ly album. How does that feel?
Starting point is 00:09:02 It feels good, you know. the Reggae Lee album, how does that feel? It feels good, you know, I still feel the same as I did back then. I really don't be trippin' that much, I just be wanting to keep working, like just keep working, keep working. But it feels good, you know, just to see that my records is still spinning since like 90, 192, around
Starting point is 00:09:30 that time. It's a good feeling and I just keep trying to create more. It's going viral and tick tock and stuff. You've been seeing that? I know you probably don't keep up with the tick tock, but it's a couple of your songs. These kids are making viral trends with it. So that's what's up. Yeah, it's a trip.
Starting point is 00:09:50 It's like it keeps starting over. Every generation, the new generation that comes, it starts over and then they fall in love with it. I'm down with that. Tired. You know, when you first, when you snooped DeDre, and y'all was in the studio during the chronic, did he ever teach you anything about producing
Starting point is 00:10:08 that you turned into your own style, or did you always feel like you had a more distinct sound from his? Using live musicians, I used to just sit there and watch, and then he actually taught me how to splice tape, put tape back together, and I used to watch. Young kids ain't gonna know what you talking about
Starting point is 00:10:29 with that one, but that's the basic tapes and all that. Well, it's where you cut the tape, and you gotta actually piece it back together yourself with alcohol and that special tape that it has with it. He taught me that, taught me how to EQ. I mean, he taught me, he taught me, you know, sampling on the MPC 60, him and Cole 187 from Above the Law. I mean, he showed me some things,
Starting point is 00:11:01 but I pretty much learned the basics and then started doing my own style, because I didn't want people to say, oh, well he just, he with Dre, because that's why I created my own shit over here. Do you feel like you missed the bus? I don't wanna say missed the bus because you did miss the bus,
Starting point is 00:11:22 but when you were 17, you got locked up, right? And that's when Dre took off. I wasn't that locked, I don't wanna say missed the bus because you did miss the bus, but when you were 17 you got locked up, right? And that's when Dre took off. I wasn't that locked, I don't get locked up that much. Oh, okay, because that's when you got your name from Warren G. They said you got your name in jail. No. No, how did you get the name Warren G? Warren Griffin.
Starting point is 00:11:36 The name is Warren Griffin, man. No, that's what they said. What Griffin the hell? No, I read something. My first one of my own. Why would that be a jail name? Why would a nigga in prison be like, you know what my name is in war?
Starting point is 00:11:44 No, but that's what they said, that's what they said, they said one of my own. Why would that be a jail name? Why would a nigga in prison be like, you know what my name is? No, but that's what they said. That's what they said. They said he was a, man, what? That's what I'm asking. No, I'm not no, I ain't no, like, I ain't no brutal, like. He thought G was for gangster. No, it's Warren G. That's Griffin.
Starting point is 00:12:00 No, I wasn't in and out of, I mean, I've been,'ve been, but I wasn't like always going to jail. I was cool, they called me Sir Cool. Yep. Total opposite of a gangster. Yes it was. I like that. That don't mean I won't get off in a motherfuckin' ass. Right.
Starting point is 00:12:18 Don't say that in jail. You don't wanna say that. No, no. That's it for me. Woo. Now on the outside looking in to us, You don't wanna say that in jail. You don't wanna say that. No, no, no. No, no. No, no. No, no. No, no. Woo. Now, on the outside looking in to us,
Starting point is 00:12:28 well, at least to me, G-Funk looked like it was created by you and Dr. Dre, but then when you do research, you hear names like, what's the name, Big Hutch? I think it's name. Yeah, a boy of the law. Yeah, Cole 187, a boy of the law, KMG, GOMAC, Total Chaos, Laylaw, Cocaine.
Starting point is 00:12:45 They took me in. When I was a pup, I didn't, you know, I really didn't have nowhere to go at the time. And Laylaw and 187 had took me in and I started hanging with them. You know, and that's why I say that 187 taught me a lot as far as the MPC 60 as well as Dre. But they made me G-Funk. They was already saying gangster funk, G-Funk.
Starting point is 00:13:17 But what I did was I took, for me being in it, I took and branched it off and I said the G-Funk era. You know, it's still this, but then I started my own sound within the gangsta funk and made it the G-Funk era. And you know, hey, those the guys that put me in it and I took it and made it worldwide, you know, for the world to know what G-Funk was about,
Starting point is 00:13:46 along with Snoop and Dre, everybody saying G-Funk as well. So if G-Funk had a Mount Rushmore, who would be on it? Like who do people forget? I guess it would be them brothers, right? Yeah, Budda Law would definitely be on there. Shit. You don't gotta be humble. No, I ain't, I'm saying shit, me.
Starting point is 00:14:08 I'll be on there too. Laylaw, cause he was the head guy over everything. Recipes, Laylaw, Recipes, GOMAC. But he was the head honcho of G-Funk. And like I said, I got my branch and created the G-Funk era, you know, and that's when I took it worldwide. And, but then it was my guys, they set it off. I, that's it right there.
Starting point is 00:14:42 So when did Nate Dogg come into the picture? Nate came in, well, he was always in Long Beach, but as far as when he came together with me and Snoop, we was, me and Snoop was already like up in North Long Beach. We was moving around doing little things here and there, trying to build our name. And Nate just popped up one day on the spot, you know, where we was hustling at.
Starting point is 00:15:12 And he had heard about us doing what we was doing, so he came up and just blended in with us, and we started calling ourselves 213. But as far as Nate, period, all of us knew each other from Kings Park, from elementary school all the way up. How was he received though? Even the twins. No, he was.
Starting point is 00:15:31 Y'all were rappers and he was singing. So what, do you remember the first time he said, hey, this is what I do and he sang with you? No, Nate was in the church circus, so he was singing a lot. But it just happened. know when we when we would get in the room and we'll be freestyling and you know beatboxing freestyling and stuff they'd start just singing along like while we bussing he
Starting point is 00:15:56 just started singing some gangster shit you know that's different it wasn't like you know just like it wasn't normal. He was just, it was kinda like a rap singing type of vibe that he would do. And he was just saying some real, real things with it. And how did the Def Jam deal come about? Def Jam started with, let me see, that was, I had a record, actually I was at the studio.
Starting point is 00:16:28 Once again, at the studio was me, Snoop, Dre, all of us. They was working on, I think it was the, we was in the studio, they was working and Paul Stewart and John Singleton was there for Snoop to do the first single for the Boys and Hoods soundtrack. So I'm in there just hanging out. This is like later on when I was like, I was kind of by myself, but I still would come to the studio with things like that. But so I asked John and Paul, Paul Stewart,
Starting point is 00:17:05 are they looking for any more songs? So they was like, yeah. So I was like, can I play a record for you? So me and Paul walked to the car. I had a raggedy little regal jumped in the car, popped in a tape deck. It was a song called Endo Smoke with me and Mr. Grim. It went for about maybe like 30 seconds and he said stop.
Starting point is 00:17:31 And so I stopped and he was like, can I take the tape? I said, yeah, just give it back to me. Just give it back to you. Yeah, give it back. So that Monday, Monday, Tuesday, whatever it was, I know it was a weekend we was working, but they Tuesday, whatever it was, I know it was a weekend we was working, but they called me and they was like, we want this to be the first single
Starting point is 00:17:49 on the Poetic Justice soundtrack. So I was like, are you serious? He was like, yeah. So I was like, damn. And you weren't signed at the time at all? I wasn't signed with nobody. So that whole thing went through, end of smoke blew up.
Starting point is 00:18:04 It actually went gold, it was everywhere, it was going crazy. So a bunch of companies was trying to find out, you know. Who the artists was. Who was these guys, so there was a lot of companies calling, so Paul hit me like, Devjian, I wanna talk to you. So I'm thinking like, shit, they don't wanna talk to me.
Starting point is 00:18:28 They want Mr. Grimm, because Mr. Grimm was dope, dope as well. That's who the record was for. And so we had got on the call. It was Lior, Chris Lighty, and Tracy Waples. They actually all flew out too as well. So we on the call and I'm like, I can't believe this is Def Jam on the phone with me. So they was asking about the guys on the song.
Starting point is 00:18:57 So they was like, okay, well, who is the guy with the kind of like melody to what he's doing? So I'm like, damn, they must be talking, they talking about Mr. Graham. So I I was like that's mr. Graham he wanted you know that's one of the guys rapping on there it was like the know the guy with the kind of like singing thing he said you mean this little chant type I said that's me so they was like yeah that's the guy we want so I was like, yeah, that's the guy we want. So I was like me So
Starting point is 00:19:34 We just from there I had to decide like cuz it was other companies coming in after that it is You know start piling up. I guess the word got around so I had to think about You know who would be best for hip-hop, right? So I Had flashback, I went all the way back to Crush Groove, the Beastie Boys, Fat Boys, run DMC and Russell and Rick Rubin and I'm like, this is the later and I start thinking about Slick, Rick, Dougie Fresh, everybody and I was like, shit, I'm LL Cool J. I said, I'm fucking with this right here, I'm with them. So I said, fuck everybody else,
Starting point is 00:20:14 I'm gonna roll with these people, because they hip hop, this is huge. And I'm a fan of Crush Groove and B Street, you know, like, so I was like, you know, that'd be different. And signed. And I- They said you saved the label during that time.
Starting point is 00:20:30 They said the label was going through a lot of- Yeah. Of losing money, artists weren't selling. They said you revitalized the label back then. Yeah, yeah. I didn't know it. Yeah. I didn't know it.
Starting point is 00:20:44 And, you know, until't know it until we started, the record sales started going like every week I was selling like 200 and some thousand every week. So it started, it was huge. But I didn't know, I didn't know they was in debt or anything like that. And then Leora told me one day, we used credit cards and different things
Starting point is 00:21:07 to get you this money. Wow. You know, for your advance. And I was like, wow, I couldn't believe it. But he was like, you really did us a big favor. And we had big parties and all of that. Yeah, that's cute, but where my money at? That part.
Starting point is 00:21:26 Did you hear that? Where's my motherfucking money? Did you ever feel like they owed you more because of that? Like that's the best. Definitely. That shit came with a bonus or something. It was a white board in there, and it said how my album had made like 100 million,
Starting point is 00:21:44 so I'm like, $100 million, where my shit at? Shit, I didn't over recouped. They can't never say I ain't recouped. And I mean, I made some money. I wasn't, it wasn't like, it should have been, but I made some pretty good bread. It wasn't like stupid money. Out of that 100 million, it wasn't,
Starting point is 00:22:08 it wasn't a lot out of that. Did you see at least 10 from that? None, no, nowhere near it. What? Nowhere near it. Does it bother you though, that when a lot of times they mention Def Jam, sometimes you don't hear Warren G.
Starting point is 00:22:21 They do, but it's quick. Yeah. It's brief. Does that bother you, especially when Le'ar telling y'all we was using credit cards to pay your stuff and you helped, you know, we made 100 million there in a time when it wasn't happening. Is that ball view at all? Yeah, it pissed me off, you know, sometimes,
Starting point is 00:22:36 but I charge it to the game. I'm like, look, I'm like, God damn. Yeah, you know, it ain't nothing I could do. You know what I mean? Ain't nothing I could do, but yeah, I get pissed off about it. Was you supposed to see that white boy? I don't think you were supposed to see that white boy.
Starting point is 00:22:58 What, what, what? Damn. Just being, you know, in the office, I used to go, this was on Varick Street out here. I just used to walk around the office, I used to go, this was on Varick Street out here. I just used to walk around the office, like walk around the whole building. I sang that shit and I was like, God damn. And Lior was flossy too.
Starting point is 00:23:17 He'd tell you, yeah, this made this much money. I'm like, man, I got to, you know, let's get it crackin'. But anything I needed they would do it though, I know that. You know, I told them I need this house, da da da da da, boom, same old record company. It was like Cadillac Records kind of. Where you, you know, I need this, okay, they get it.
Starting point is 00:23:44 But you know, I need this, okay, they get it. But you know, I made bread too. It wasn't nowhere near what, you know, that, but you know, I'm at it. How did you break the news to Mr. Grimm? Shit. They want me, not you. Yeah, I mean, that's just what it was, you know, but I still would bring Graham on things.
Starting point is 00:24:06 And Graham actually got signed, I think he had signed right with Sony. But we was cool, I still was pushing for him, even though he hadn't, I thought they wanted him, but never went on no big head shit, I still fucked with him and whatever he needed, I was with him. Why do you think you were never fully brought
Starting point is 00:24:32 into the death row circle as far as being a son? I don't know, shit. Cause it seemed that you would go, right? Well, yeah, I was ride or die. Was it politics, was it your personality, was somebody hating you? I think what kind of, you know, had Suge pissed off at me was because
Starting point is 00:24:57 I wasn't like one of those type of artists that had just signed any motherfucking thing, and I, you know, and we was presented with contracts, so I told everybody we needed to get lawyers to look at these contracts before we signed them. So, you know, the word had got back to him that I was trying to get a lawyer to look at the contract. So he came out pissed off.
Starting point is 00:25:22 Because you was doing the right thing? Because I was doing. The same thing he would do. Exactly, that nigga wouldn't have, he'd have been doing the same shit. So I'm like, how can you get mad at me? So he's probably pissed off about that. And then, you know, I just wasn't, I wasn't like, you know, with a lot of shit.
Starting point is 00:25:41 I wasn't going to just follow whatever everybody else was doing. I wanted to do my own shit. I ain't gonna, you know, I, you know, and I, like I always say, I ain't really, he been knowing me since I was like 15, 16 years old. You know, so it's just like, I done known this motherfucker all my life.
Starting point is 00:26:01 I ain't even ready to be, man, I'm cool. But that, that's probably was, that probably was one of the main things that had him pissed off. And then I used to get into it with different guys around. I just wasn't with the bullshit. He'd talk shit about me here and there, and then I'd talk shit back just to let him know, but it'd be facts.
Starting point is 00:26:30 I ain't gonna say something that's a lie. But at the end of the day, I ain't got nothing against that dude. It is what it is, he do what he do. I just keep pushing and doing what I do. And actually it was a blessing that I didn't go that route because it turned out even better for me. I'm able to do whatever I wanna do.
Starting point is 00:26:55 I can go wherever I wanna go. And that's why I came to the East Coast, just to be different than the regular, the same old same old, just to get away. And when I came over here, it was nothing but love. You know, it was nothing but love. Wasn't nobody talking that East Coast, West Coast shit. That wasn't no East Coast, West Coast thing.
Starting point is 00:27:18 That was crew shit. These people against these people, none of that. I had love over here, I was in Brooklyn, the Bronx, I was everywhere, like Harlem, 146th and Lenox, everywhere. Queens, Jamaica Queens, LL took me to Jamaica Queens, showed me his grandmother house, where he did all his shit, I was blown away. Like on Farmer's, yeah.
Starting point is 00:27:46 Actually, I even seen the sidekick that was in Tina got a big old butt, I was like damn. Yeah, so. You think being close to Death Row but not actually being in it gave you a clearer lens on the chaos that was happening within Death Row? Cause you was on the outside looking? I mean, shit, I used to be wild too,
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Starting point is 00:32:00 There's so many questions that we've never gotten any kind of answers for. If you have a case you'd like me to look into, call the Hell and Gone Murder Line at 678-744-6145. Listen to Hell and Gone Murder Line on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. There's shit going on when I was around. That shit going on when I was around, I mean some of the things that went on after I was gone, you know, I was like damn, like I said it was a blessing to be away,
Starting point is 00:32:35 you know, away from that shit and not get caught up in that because it just, it wasn't cool, you know? But I still had to deal with it even though I wasn't signed to Death Row, And, but I still had to deal with it, even though I wasn't signed to Def Road, this, that, and this, everywhere I go, niggas was still tripping with me, like, cause they still, I'm associated,
Starting point is 00:32:53 so everywhere I went, I still had to deal with it, you know, even though I was with Def Jam, I had to deal with that shit, like, from the street side. I just wonder how did it feel for you watching like the death row story unfold, right? Like, you know, they were growing and you know that your sound helped build that house
Starting point is 00:33:13 but your name wasn't necessarily on the lease. Shit, I was pissed off. You know, I was pissed off at them and I was pissed off at myself, and I was pissed off at myself for not being more business savvy as far as knowing about publishing and contracts and this, that, and this. I just wanted to help Dre.
Starting point is 00:33:36 I just wanted to help him however I could to help him get to where he needed to go. And the company, you know, but I got one shout out. You know, Snoop gave it up for me on Stranded on Death Row. Do you ever wish you signed Snoop? Like I said, if I was business savvy, I could have had Snoop sign it, then signed him over there. But yeah, I wish I would have signed him. But yeah, I wish I would have signed him.
Starting point is 00:34:06 I wish I would have signed him. And how did you meet him? Elementary school. I mean, me and Snoop's brother Jerry, when I say Snoop Dogg's big brother, call him Dirty Left and this DJ, that's Snoop's older brother. He just, Jerry's just a year older.
Starting point is 00:34:28 We just a year older than Snoop. And we went to elementary school together. So Beverly would walk Jerry and Snoop across the park. I would be coming up 20th and I'd bang my right on orange, but they would be walking across King Park and I'd be walking, because we went to a school called CIS right there across the street from the park. So she would be walking in and we always used to just meet up in the park and then we'd go into the elementary school together.
Starting point is 00:34:56 And then Snoop ended up leaving CIS going to, I forgot what the name of the other school. It wasn't Prescott. It was another school where they had swimming, they teach you tennis, all kind of shit. We wasn't getting that, so we was upset because they only chose a few kids to go to this school. So Snoop got to go. We didn't get to go. But it was from elementary all the way up
Starting point is 00:35:26 to King Park through youth sports, all the way into hustling. How did you know he was a fan? To high school. Because everybody I'm sure was rapping back then, right? I'm sure because it was a fan. How did you know, now he got something special? Shit, he was just, he was dope.
Starting point is 00:35:44 Just always, always dope and then funny motherfucker how you laughing you know he just was always dope and with everywhere we went you know when we was just fucking around I would I would be the guy we around and I would point at something. As soon as I point at it, Snoop will start rapping about it. When he battling somebody, I'll point at like some roses or anything. He'll bust and then he'll turn it, say something about the roses,
Starting point is 00:36:15 and then he'll tear their ass up at the same time. Why he talking about whatever I pointed at. And that's when I knew he was special. I was like, this dude is, he's special. I'm gonna push as hard as I can to try to help him, me and Nate, all of us get on because we got something special here. And so that's what I kept doing.
Starting point is 00:36:37 I just kept pushing for us, just nonstop. What was the version of Snoop that only you know, like way before the fame? And do you think that version of Snoop that only you know, like way before the fame? And do you think that version of him still exists? Shit, he's still the same. Ain't nothing changed. Let me see. Well, he get a lot more serious than he did
Starting point is 00:37:05 when we was coming up. lot more serious than he did when we was coming up. He more serious, he a snap on a motherfucker fast. Now he wasn't like that. You know, when we was coming up, he was more calm. He got Andre ass at BET Awards immediately when he says, yeah, I wrote a deep cover for you and nothing but the DJ. Oh, he a snap.
Starting point is 00:37:23 He snap immediately. Immediately. Did you peep that? Yeah, yeah, I wrote a deep cover for you and now I'm the DJ. Oh, he didn't snap. He snapped immediately. Immediately. Did you peep that? Yeah, yeah, I was just like, damn. I said, shit. I thought it was part of the script. It didn't seem like part of the script. Uh-uh, Snoop wasn't reading.
Starting point is 00:37:35 It wasn't? No, I don't think so. Dre was reading. Dre was reading. When you gonna do that, Warren? When you gonna say, I really produced that record. You know what I mean? Oh, man. That's always the rumor.
Starting point is 00:37:46 The rumor is that there's records on the chronic and doggy style that you never got credited for. But you think. I ain't never taken nothing away from Dre. He's an incredible producer the whole nine. I was the guy that used to go out. I would bring all of the ideas. So I would bring the samples and I would sample it
Starting point is 00:38:07 and I'd play it for Dre like, listen to this, and he'd be like, that shit is dope, and then he would take it and add his parts to it and different things that he would do. Like I said, what I was trying to do was just give back to for you helping me learn this, that, and that, and this. Now look what I'm doing.
Starting point is 00:38:29 I'm bringing this, that, and this to you to help you grow. And hell yeah, I did a lot of that shit. I ain't gonna lie. No, I didn't get no credit. I didn't get no credit, no nothing. The Dee's Nut skit, I did that shit. That was off the dome.
Starting point is 00:38:51 Turn the mic on, went and got the phone, called my home girl, put the mic up on, set the mic up and just did the skit right there and in there. So Dee's Nut, you invented that? I did it right there. I did that right there in the studio. I invented that right there. That's hip hop history, that's black history. That's not even black, that's American history.
Starting point is 00:39:14 Everybody does that. Yeah, that's funny. What about records? Like a lot of the records on there, like Let Me Ride, that was a, we called them, now it was, back then it was called a dub record, it wasn't a break record, it was a dub record, but I bought it from a break record store,
Starting point is 00:39:34 and it was a little, I still got that record in my crates too, in the studio. It was a little part on the record that... And then it... Boom, boom, boom, boom. Boom, boom, let me ride. Boom, boom, boom. So I let Dre hear that shit. He took that motherfucker and turned it into some other shit.
Starting point is 00:40:01 So that's what I used to do. I would bring records like that. Sometimes I would sample them. Sometimes I just played a record like, listen to this shit, you know? So that's what I used to do. I would bring records like that. Sometimes I would sample them, sometimes I just play the record like, listen to this shit, Dre. And that record, even like the Lil' Ghetto Boy, that was a me and Mr. Graham record. And I gave it to them. They was like, we wanna use this.
Starting point is 00:40:21 Cause I had it just how Lil' Ghetto Boy sound, but I had the drums going boom boom, pac, pac, boom, pac, boom boom, pac, pac, and then Drake took it and changed the drums and did it the way he wanted to make it feel, but that idea, all of the Rudy Ray Moore stuff, I went and bought all those records from off of Melrose Street,
Starting point is 00:40:45 all black exploitation soundtracks, I bought all of that stuff and we would listen to them. The skit from the Mac, that was something how, and I always say this, that's the way I was feeling when that little skit, the way it was sounding was like, I was like, this is me and you, in order for us to make this thing work, we gotta get rid of the pimps, the pushes, and start all over again. That's how I was feeling, so that skit was right on time,
Starting point is 00:41:20 so I said, listen to this. And he used that skit. Just, you know, I mean just. What about on Doggy Style? Doggy Style, I didn't do nothing on Doggy Style. Okay, okay, okay. I wish I did. Did you get compensated at all,
Starting point is 00:41:35 even though you weren't in the credits or? I didn't get shit. And it ain't, I ain't bitter about that, cause I went and did my own thing. I sold, shit, six million records, eight million records all together on my own, outside of that. I wasn't bitter,
Starting point is 00:41:59 pissed off, yeah, because I didn't have my business mind together. I pissed off, yeah, because I didn't have my business mind together. That's why I think it is cool that you are even donating pieces of your history to the hip hop museum. You know what I mean? Even that, that what you just taught us, the skit you're responsible for,
Starting point is 00:42:17 are you gonna put that type of stuff in there too? Definitely. Yeah, all of that, I think is dope. I even still got the shirt I wore in Regulate. Wow. Wow. Wow. Are you donating pieces like that? Yeah, I got some things that I'm gonna donate.
Starting point is 00:42:31 I even got the mic I did the whole album on. Yeah. I got all, I have every piece of equipment that I use. All the crates that I use, from the Chronic to my records to even doing behind bars for Slick Rick and Pick It Up for Redman. People don't even know that. Pick It Up for Redman. I did the remix to Pick It Up.
Starting point is 00:42:56 Just, you know, you gotta get yours. I gotta get mine, Tupac Breed, did Breed's whole album, worked with Michael Jackson, did every, you know, I worked with a lot of people, you know, so I wasn't trippin'. I'm like, shit, I'm able to move and groove and still. What was the Michael Jackson session like? Cool, you know, he was cool.
Starting point is 00:43:16 Did you hit the weed with him? Nah, nah. But he was like on some like regular, like, Real cool. Like regular like home. That's straight up, it's like what's up man? Like that kind of shit. Did he reach out to you or? They reached out to me.
Starting point is 00:43:34 Him, it was Renee and Bruce. At the time they was producing for him and they asked me if I could come meet him, come over to the studio. He like your work so he wanted you to come by the studio. So I came by, it was record one, and shit, I couldn't believe it. I was like, god damn, this is Michael motherfucking Jackson.
Starting point is 00:44:00 I can't believe this shit, I couldn't believe it. I thought I was in a dream. And we chopped it up and I produced some records for him. He done the vocals on them, so they somewhere in that vault somewhere, but I did some good records for him too, that was dope. And was also, at that time a lot of press was against him. So I was telling him to do a song to express yourself
Starting point is 00:44:28 about, you know, because everybody was down and I forgot what, it wasn't not that stuff that came later on with the kids stuff. It wasn't none of that stuff. It was some stuff before that they was trying to criticize him over and I was telling him to fight back and talk about it. Like express yourself about how you feel
Starting point is 00:44:46 about how these people are attacking you. Oh, was that when he used the Jewish slur, I think? I'm not sure, I'm not sure, but he was being attacked. And I just told him to just, you know, express himself that way, you know. I wanna go back to the credit thing. Do you think West Coast history would look different if the credits were truly accurate?
Starting point is 00:45:07 Oh yeah, definitely would look good for my pocket. Nah. Right. Nah, but yeah, I mean, it would look different. People would really be like, damn, so you was really involved? And know that I did have input, and I ain't trying to, like I said,
Starting point is 00:45:31 I ain't never trying to take nothing away from Dre, because he is, that's my sensei, you know what I mean? And he's one of the dopest producers in the game. But I did get down with him. Me and Snoop and RBX, they're as a corrupt. We came and brought all our, and Nate Dogg, we brought our energy in and we put it into him to blow him up.
Starting point is 00:45:55 You know what's interesting, people always ask y'all those questions. They don't never ask Dre. But if you ask Dre, he probably would just tell you if you asked him, you know what I'm saying? Yeah, yeah. I don't think the nigga do interviews that much. He done.
Starting point is 00:46:08 Yeah, you know, but I mean, it is what it is. You know. Was Regulate your way of saying, I don't need Dre, I don't need Suge, I don't need Snoop, I don't need nobody to make a clap for Dre? No, that was just, Reggae Label was just, you know, just wanted to, I just wanted to do, just be different. I wanted to take a record, something that's not too hard
Starting point is 00:46:37 and sounding too gangster, but having a good feeling, but still telling the story on it. And then, you know, mimic, well, I'm not gonna lie, we mimicked what Snoop and Dre did. We did it a little bit different, but we was doing the back and forth like they was doing. So that was like how Snoop and Dre partnered up. It was me and they, that was my partner.
Starting point is 00:46:59 That was my guy that, you know, our chemistry was incredible, like how Snoop and Dre's was. So we just wanted to be different. But at the same time, shit, hey, letting these niggas know, shit, I could do my shit outside of y'all, shit. You know, like you said, hey, I'm dope too. So, and I went and started doing my own thing,
Starting point is 00:47:24 like fuck this shit, I'm gone. You think it would be easier to tell that story if Nate was still here? It very easy, yeah very easy. Oh boy, Nate would be going in. He would go in. I actually tried to, I tried to sign Nate over at Def Jam, had a bag on the table for him
Starting point is 00:47:46 and Shud got at him before I could. And so he went and did a deal with Def Roe and then I told him what I had for him on the table and he was like, nigga, I said, nigga, I've been trying to tell your motherfucking ass the whole time that this is on the table for you, but you wanted to go ahead and dip. It still worked out, again, because I would involve him
Starting point is 00:48:15 in a bunch of things that I was doing, like the Nobody Does It Better. I did that for him to build him up. And that became one of his biggest records that I produced. How much of you left with Nate Dogg? How much I left with him? How much of you personally and professionally left when he left?
Starting point is 00:48:40 I'm talking about like he passed away. Yeah, yeah. I mean, a lot left. That was my dog. You know, as far as just every day we talking on the phone or in the studio or working. And we used to talk shit to each other. I ain't gonna lie, we would go at it,
Starting point is 00:48:59 but you know, he'd be like, fuck you. Or he'd say, nigga, you a bitch. You know, I'd say, I'd get back at it'll say, nigga, you a bitch. I'll get back at him, no, nigga, you a bitch. Back at it, we a fight squabble, all that. And the next day, he would call like, what's up? So I'm like, motherfucker, why you calling me after all that bullshit that you talk to me? And, ah, nigga, what time we getting in the studio? And I'm like, nigga, what you, what time we getting in the studio?
Starting point is 00:49:25 And I'm like, nigga, what you mean what time we getting in the studio? Shit, three o'clock, let's go. But, uh. You never said apologize, nigga. No, I'll be back. We jumped, yeah, I should have been on him, but we had jumped right back in.
Starting point is 00:49:42 And, uh, Nah, he would, Nate was my guy. So a lot left on the musical side because I do music that some artists don't understand it. I know he'd kill it and that should have turned into some classics shit. So I have to try to teach certain artists when I do the music for them, like look, do this.
Starting point is 00:50:06 He knew what to do, so I would try to school him and tell him, okay, I want you to do it like this. Sometimes it works, sometimes it don't, but he knew exactly what to do. I always wanted to hear you and Ty Dolla Signs work together, because I feel like Ty. Oh, wow. I got a record, actually, it didn't get out there. Oh, I about to say that, I know, I ain't never had no a, it didn't get out there.
Starting point is 00:50:25 Oh, I about to say that, I ain't never heard of Ty. It didn't get out there, but I got a couple records with Ty. I got records with Ty, I got records with Snoop. I did a record with Wiz, me and Wiz got a smash coming, called Mad at All, that's a smash. Got a record with Wayne, called All Alone. I got records, I got some really, really, really dope
Starting point is 00:50:54 music that I've been putting together, man. Some really dope, dope shit. Why the record with Ty never came out? Because I feel like Ty is fruit off Nate Dogg's tree. I still got him, you know, I still got him. I, you know, I may drop it, you know, I got it. I may drop it on, you know, I got different projects that I'm working on,
Starting point is 00:51:17 so I may, it's probably, I'm sure it's going, I'm gonna drop it on one of these EPs I'm doing. I don't want to do no full lengths no more. I just, I like the EP thing where I give them like eight here, eight here, eight there. I even got one with me and Nate, just me and him, an EP that I'ma have coming as well. Oh, unreleased?
Starting point is 00:51:38 Yeah, unreleased. Wow. Yeah, we got some dope shit. People gonna be tripping like how dope he is. We did a lot of records. We was actually working on an album right around when he passed away. So that, you know, we had at least,
Starting point is 00:51:56 we had about 15 in the can already and we had other ideas as well. So I got a bunch of stuff that we did and we're gonna put together a Warren G and they dog EP, just me and him. We talk about the bad business back in the day. Did you own everything for regulators? Is that all yours?
Starting point is 00:52:16 Yeah. Okay, so every time we hear it sampled, every time it's in a movie, every time it's a TV commercial, they gotta call you. I own the master publishing, yeah. Yeah. a TV commercial, they gotta call you. I'm a master publicist, yeah. Yeah, yeah. That's why your skin looks so good.
Starting point is 00:52:28 That is right. Yeah, yeah. I ain't gonna lie, I'm serious. It's still, it's still, I mean, I still get treated good, you know, from doing that song, and what the thing I loved about it the most is being able to meet Michael McDonald at a concert and him telling me how much he appreciate me doing the redoing Regulate and he like my son don't even like my version he like your version better than mine so I was like
Starting point is 00:53:06 I was blown away I got it on, I'm gonna put it in something. Did you perform with him? Did he bring you up to perform? No, I was sitting in the crowd and he was just. Yeah, you know, this is a song that a guy, you guys, yeah, the name Warren G. And by the way, Warren G is in the crowd down there and da da da da da, and they was like, ah.
Starting point is 00:53:27 And they shined the light and shit. It was just cool just to get that experience. It was me and my wife, we went up in there and just sat right up in the front. And then they pulled us to the back and we chopped it up. That dope. I know you letting royalty checks even getting off
Starting point is 00:53:45 regularly all the time. Hell yeah, shit yeah. How much did you have to pay? Cause Sting had to pay, Sting was paying Diddy two grand a day? Something shit like that? No, it was Diddy paying Sting. Diddy was paying Sting two grand a day?
Starting point is 00:53:55 We got a split to where everybody, when it's time, you know, quarterly when they come, boom, they get there, Doobie Brothers get there, Michael McDonald get his, and they, the state get his, and then I get mine. Or, mm-hmm. You know how to make money other ways. You in the barbecue business now.
Starting point is 00:54:12 Yes, indeed. Yes, and you competing in the barbecue festival next month? Yes, indeed. Well, actually, this weekend, it's a national barbecue festival in, in, god dog it, it's a national barbecue festival in Long Island. Get ready to get down. That's what I love to do outside of hip hop is cook. I'm Andrea Gunning, host of the podcast Betrayal.
Starting point is 00:54:42 Police Lieutenant Joel Kern used his badge to fool everyone, most of all, his wife Caroline. He texted, I've ruined our lives. You're going to want to divorce me. Caroline's husband was living another life behind the scenes. He betrayed his oath to his family and to his community. She said you left bruises, pulled her hair, that type of thing.
Starting point is 00:55:08 No. How far would Joel go to cover up what he'd done? You're unable to keep track of all your lies and quite frankly, I question how many other women may bring forward allegations in the future. This season of betrayal investigates one officer's decades of deception. Lies that left those closest to him questioning everything they thought they knew. Listen to Betrayal on the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Made for This Mountain is a podcast that exists to empower listeners to rise above their struggles,
Starting point is 00:55:42 break free from the chains of trauma, and silence the negative voices that have kept them small. Through raw conversations, real stories, and actionable guidance, you can learn to face the mountain that is in front of you. You will never be able to change or grow through the thing that you refuse to identify. The thing that you refuse to say, hey, this is my mountain. This is the struggle. This is the thing that's in front of me. You can't make that mountain move without actually diving into it. May is mental health awareness month, a time to
Starting point is 00:56:09 conquer the things that once felt impossible and step boldly into the best version of yourself to awaken the unstoppable strength that's inside of us all. So tune into the podcast, focus on your emotional wellbeing and climb your personal mountain. Because it's impossible for you to be the most authentic you. It's impossible for you to love you fully. If all you're doing The American West with Dan Flores is the latest show from the Meat Eater Podcast Network hosted by me, writer and historian Dan Flores and brought to you by Velvet Buck. This podcast looks at a West available nowhere else. Each episode I'll be diving into some of the lesser known histories of the West. I'll then be joined in conversation by guests such as Western historian Dr. Randall Williams and bestselling
Starting point is 00:57:06 author and meat eater founder, Stephen Rannella. I'll correct my kids now and then where they'll say when cave people were here and I'll say it seems like the Ice Age people that were here didn't have a real affinity for caves. So join me starting Tuesday, May 6th, where we'll delve into stories of the West and come to understand how it helps inform the ways in which we experience the region today. Listen to The American West with Dan Flores on the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Over the past six years of making my true crime podcast, Hell and Gone, I've learned one thing. No town is too small for murder.
Starting point is 00:57:46 I'm Catherine Townsend. I've received hundreds of messages from people across the country begging for help with unsolved murders. I was calling about the murder of my husband at the cold case. I've never found her and it haunts me to this day. The murderer is still out there. Every week on Hell and Gone Murder Line,
Starting point is 00:58:03 I dig into a new case, bringing the skills I've learned as a journalist and private investigator to ask the questions no one else is asking. Police really didn't care to even try. She was still somebody's mother, she was still somebody's daughter, she was still somebody's sister.
Starting point is 00:58:18 There's so many questions that we've never gotten any kind of answers for. If you have a case you'd like me to look into, call the Hell and Gone Murder Line at 678-744-6145. Listen to Hell and Gone Murder Line on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Love that.
Starting point is 00:58:38 And I'm a pit master, I ain't a mega chef. I'm a pit master, but all the chefs still call me a chef. They like, you're a chef. I'm like, God damn, okay. Big names too, and I'm like, damn. So I created my own sauces and rubs. I done had a brain for it. I ain't got my shit sitting on the table up here
Starting point is 00:58:58 for you guys. I'ma get something. You ain't bring no barbecue sauce for me. I came, oh my God. I got in so early, it's all on my goddamn bus. So that video wasn't no bullshit, what video was you on the grill in?
Starting point is 00:59:11 Yeah. You was on the video. G-Thang. G-Thang, yeah, you was slipping the rib. No, I was hanging, I was by the pit, rolling it up. I thought you was slipping the rib. I've always been doing that though, from day one, everything we've done,
Starting point is 00:59:26 I've always would cook, and it came from my father, around family functions, when we would have functions, everybody having a good time, he'd be cooking on the grill, motherfuckers would be drunk, squabbing a little bit here and there, but just not serious, but just family reunion type stuff and it stuck with me.
Starting point is 00:59:48 So I started doing it ever since I was probably like, I'd say about 14, 15 years old, just all, just everywhere I went. Even with hustling and everything, I would always cook. And to where I got serious about it, I was grilling at first, and then I got into the smoke world and started learning that world
Starting point is 01:00:11 from a bunch of different pit masters from like Austin, Texas, and from all over. And they embraced me and showed me a lot. So now I got it, not all the way down, but I'm damn sure if it's trying to kick some ass and win it. Now I got it not all the way down, but I'm damn sure if I just try to kick some ass and win it.
Starting point is 01:00:30 Well congratulations on Snip and Griffin. Thank you. That's the barbecue line. Just other business ventures outside of hip hop and I always like to tell the young world, cause dudes be walking, they be having the money, snag this motherfucking high. What the fuck is you gonna just keep walking with money
Starting point is 01:00:47 like that? You can take that thing and go invest. Why you sit there? That be called a something. That's why you hear about them getting robbed and shit. Nigga, go invest that shit. Go buy some land. Go buy, get into real estate.
Starting point is 01:00:58 Create you a business outside of hip hop, but use hip hop as a tool. I love hip hop and I ain't gonna never stop doing it, but I'm gonna use that as a tool as well to push this and push that just like the corporations do. That's right. You know, so all these young guys out there flashing with that money, y'all go invest that shit
Starting point is 01:01:19 because when it run out, then you gonna be back to trying to do some shit that you don't wanna do. You know? How you hook up with Iceware Bezo? Bezo. Bezo, I'm sorry. Yeah, yeah. Actually, my cousin, one of my cousins out of Chattanooga,
Starting point is 01:01:37 man, he had hit me, he was like, hey, cuz, you seen this? And so he sent me the video. So I played it and I was like damn I was like damn okay he redid it out that's just sound hard. Streets ain't the same. Yeah and then one of my other homies hit me cuz I'm an Xbox head so I'm on the Xbox and then the party one of my homeboys in the Xbox party mamba hit me he was like won't you heard that Iceware vessel I was like
Starting point is 01:02:02 damn nigga you said it he said it so I swear vessel, I was like, damn nigga, you said it, he said it. So I started listening again, I was like, this motherfucker is hard, and then Snoop posted it. And I was like, damn, this shit is hard. And so I DM'd him, I said, look, send me an open 12, I'ma bust on that motherfucker. So he sent it, and I sent it back, and he was like, oh gee, this is, I love it, I sent it back and he was like, he was like, oh gee, this is, I love it, this is a classic, he was like, I'ma push this.
Starting point is 01:02:31 And I said, hey, it's all good. And he was like, so, he thinking that I would be trippin' cause you know, he was like, he didn't try to use so many different samples from other artists and they like, hell no,. You know they mean about it. I was like nigga use that motherfucker, I don't care. Cause it ain't nothing but recycling. Cause you blow it up then hey that's even more
Starting point is 01:02:55 they come in. I don't want nothing, you ain't gotta pay me nothing, none of that. It'll pay for itself. So I said you can use anything I got. Love that. Use it. That's dope. Cause it's gonna help you
Starting point is 01:03:08 and it's gonna help bring in, keep the recycling going. Yeah. So, you know. Have you ever confronted anybody about not getting your flowers? Or are you just to let the music and the work speak for itself type?
Starting point is 01:03:21 I let the work and the music speak for itself. I don't wanna get into that mode where I start trippin' on fools, cause I go hard, and I don't wanna get there, you know, everybody always like, Warren, you so nice, you so cool, but I get off in the motherfucker ass, I just don't choose to go that route,
Starting point is 01:03:42 and I don't like to argue with motherfuckers and, you know, do all that extra shit. I'm just like, I'ma let this dude speak for me. Motherfuckers know though, I mean, they know I ain't gonna sit up there and play no motherfucking games. I'm cool, but, and I should have, I should have been more, I should have been more active, yeah, vocal and active.
Starting point is 01:04:15 But it's just like, you know, I've seen so many people do foul shit to a lot of people, a lot of guys, like, you know, I done seen motherfuckers talk shit about Dre, motherfuckers talk shit about Snoop, and then they asses right up under. You know, I ain't that type of motherfucker. I ain't gonna talk about these motherfuckers and then get in they face.
Starting point is 01:04:38 If I got something to say to them, I'll say it to them. And yeah, I did talk about the super bowl shit. I was pissed off. You know, it just wasn't cool, and I ain't, it wasn't like something that I just brought up and did this and did that, it was a whole story to it that led up to that. It was a witness there, one of my guys,
Starting point is 01:05:04 with our crew, he sat right next to me and he was even trippin' and he got down there and went back there and I'm still in the fuckin' crowd. But I just wanted to go back there and hang out, me and my son, that was it. I don't know. Now that you had a story and you understand how it is and the fact that y'all were so close
Starting point is 01:05:23 and you introduced, you understand why. Because I don't think a lot of people necessarily knew, did you speak to Dre or Snoop? Of course you spoke to Snoop, did you speak to Dre after that, have y'all had a conversation? No, I ain't talked to him. I done reached out to talk to him a few times. You know, but he always would be busy, you know,
Starting point is 01:05:39 but I ain't, I mean, it ain't, I ain't got nothing against him. And you ain't seen him at the ET Awards? Because y'all was right there. I didn't got nothing against him. I mean, I don't know. I didn't even sing. You know, I was focused on doing what I had to do. But um. Y'all don't have the best relationship, huh? I don't even know what kind of relationship we have. I ain't seen him in a while.
Starting point is 01:05:58 We ain't talked in a while or hung out. You know, I ain't got nothing against him, but I don't know if there's a problem or not, I don't know. You know, I ain't never done. Was there something that got y'all to this point? I have no idea, I don't know what the fuck is going on. You know, I don't know if somebody might may have told him some shit or said some shit
Starting point is 01:06:21 because a lot of motherfuckers would do that just to get up under a person. You know, they'll say, well, he did something, I don't know. or said some shit, because a lot of motherfuckers will do that just to get up under a person. They'll say, well, he did something, I don't know. But, and I ain't trippin' either at the same time. I ain't got nothing against him, but that shit just was kinda weird. When I look up to you, and that's my guy still.
Starting point is 01:06:43 Like I said, that's my sensei. And we could sit down and talk whenever, face to face. And you know, that's my guy still. You know, like I said, that's my sensei. And we could sit down and talk whenever, face to face, you know, and put it all out there. And if it's something that I did and I was wrong, hey, it is what it is. Okay, I was wrong. If you don't wanna fuck with me no more, that's fine. Cool, but being in the blind and not knowing
Starting point is 01:07:08 what's going on, I don't know. But, cause that's what it seemed like, to me it seemed like it may be a problem by, it just felt like a problem, you know, I'm near my homeboy, I love that nigga the deaf, that's my dog, he said, I don't bring shit to work with me. That's totally different. I don't think he was talking about me. Snoop was up here, yeah, Snoop was up here.
Starting point is 01:07:33 I don't think he was talking about me as far as me being shit coming with him to go to the studio or wherever to work because that's all we ever did was get down and go to the studio together. the studio or wherever to work because that's all we ever did was get down and go to the studio together. Go up there. We would have fun. That's it. You know, it wasn't no... You know, so just clearing that, you know, Snoop is my homeboy. I have no problems with Dre. This my best friend.
Starting point is 01:08:05 You two guys, y'all hang out. This my best friend. And this is my brother. And this is my brother. It just be weird and I don't, when I say weird as far as it's like, we don't go out to eat together no more. We don't do family shit where we get the kids out
Starting point is 01:08:26 and do shit like that, go jet skiing or go skiing. It ain't about like some music shit or this, that, and this. Just a hangout like we used to. I don't know nobody else. You are the motherfuckers I grew with in this industry. I ain't, that's it. It ain't, that's it. Just, it's hanging out. Let's, you know, like being a crew again, that's it. It ain't, that's it. Just, it's hanging out.
Starting point is 01:08:45 Let's, you know, like being a crew again, a family again. You know, I ain't, I'm just, that's it. Warren, it's okay to say I miss you, my brother. It's okay to tell your people I miss you. I don't know why we so tough as men. It's like, yo, Dre, I miss you. Snoop, I miss you, it's okay. Nah, them niggas know that. Snoop know that shit cause I chime in with Snoop, you know when
Starting point is 01:09:09 we don't talk for a while I chime in with him like nigga just this one, this G-Dub, I'm checking in, you know we ain't talked in a minute so I'm checking in. I can't do that with Dre, you know me Snoop, we talk all the time. Because recently, we kind of like was distant a little bit. And I'm like, I hear Snoop like, what's going on? We ain't talked in a while. But not knowing that he was going through some things. And as your best friend, you got to tell me that, because I don't know if you don't tell me.
Starting point is 01:09:41 So he had, like he mentioned. He lost his mom, he lost his brother? Not with moms, he was like, you know, my daughter, her daughter came premature, so. His granddaughter, yeah. Yeah, so and she's about to go home, like he said, she finally about to go home. I didn't know that, so he wasn't returning my call,
Starting point is 01:10:04 so I was like, damn, this nigga Snoop ain't fucking with me, what's going on? And then he finally hit me and told me what was going on. So I was like, damn man, so I told him, you know I'm always praying for you and I'm always there for you, like I have been through all the situations that he didn't been going through. Because I went through that same exact thing
Starting point is 01:10:25 where I lost my grandmother, my mother, my mother-in-law, I lost my both aunties, my grandfather. I lost like all this shit was like in a row and I was fucked up, you know, so I've been through it. So that's why I was able to walk him through what he was going through with losing his mother, because I lost mine too in 99. So I've been motherless for a long time.
Starting point is 01:10:51 Kids don't even know their grandmother, never met their grandmother, so mine's. So just to be able there to tell him that, and understand that this is life, this is what we're gonna have to go through. And you just gotta man up, you gotta understand that this is life. We gonna have to go through this,
Starting point is 01:11:12 our kids gonna have to go through this shit. So just understand that, and you'll be better about everything. You'll feel better. You cry, cause I still cry. Charlotte, man, I cry now. Like you said, just say I miss you guys. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 01:11:35 You know, I mean, it's just being a family again. You know, I ain't trippin' other than that. But if it is a problem, nigga, address the shit, tell me, I ain't trippin' other than that. But if it is a problem, nigga, address the shit, tell me, and then I'll be fine with that. You know, I ain't trippin'. G-Dub keep it movin'. But y'all came up together, y'all created a community,
Starting point is 01:11:57 and then you look at, man, y'all survived. Yeah, yeah, through a lot. You just sit around and kick in and just talk, we celebrate, survived. Yeah, you know, one thing that did happen, that I was really crushed about, I have said it before, it was a situation where I went into, I was in a studio situation
Starting point is 01:12:23 and it was after Dre left and I didn't know that he left and I was mad at him because he didn't tell me that he had left Death Row. So I went to a studio session and was, you know, people was trying to get at me like, you know, they was trying to whoop my ass up in that motherfucker but I got up out of the mix. But I was kind of pissed off about that right there. And I never got the call, like don't go around that shit. And these niggas, if they had the chance
Starting point is 01:13:02 to crack my head open, they would have cracked it. I was just able to get away and get out of that situation. And the things that, I'm not gonna lie, and I had, I was locked and loaded, but it just wasn't worth it to end everything I got going on right now for me cracking this motherfucker for snatching my chain. This motherfucker snatched my chain. Then another guy came and caused a diversion.
Starting point is 01:13:36 When he caused that diversion, I walked out. And when I walked out is when I got there, I was able to get out, you know, get away and able to make my calls for my shit to come right back and it came right back and I still got it to this day. I sounded like Trump when I said that. I gotta get to this day. Did you talk to Dre about that ever?
Starting point is 01:14:01 We ain't never had, like I said, we ain't talked in a long time. So y'all ain't talked since, that's the 90s, early 2000s. Early 2000s. I mean, we see each other here and there. We just ain't talk. You know, I don't, you know, it ain't no,
Starting point is 01:14:17 like I said, it ain't no static. He just, I guess that's just, he just like that. That's just how he is. You know, he just do his own thing, but if it is a problem or something, I wish he would say it or should have said it, but people who be around be like, he always talking about you saying this and that and this.
Starting point is 01:14:38 You know, good shit. Well, we never talk. So hold on, so since Aftermath, Eminem, 50 Cent, that whole. No, we had, around that time, I used to be up at the studio. Okay, okay, okay. You know, we even went to the islands. And wasn't y'all on the upper smoke tour? How am I making that up?
Starting point is 01:14:56 We did the upper smoke tour. Yeah. You just did a distance. I made $4,500 a show. Oh, $4,500 a show. $4,500, I swear to God. Did they at least pay for your hotel and traveling all that? I had to pay for all that.
Starting point is 01:15:10 Oh, 45 all in. Yeah. You made about 1500 a show with all that. Jesus. Yeah, yeah. Warren, this is not right. I'm just saying that's the type of stuff that I've been through.
Starting point is 01:15:26 You know, so that's why I kinda like be to myself and just away from everything and try to do a lot of shit on my own because I, you know, shit just, you know. It's a new day, a new time. Well, I was pretty rough, I ain't gonna lie, Charlie Man. I was a hard head, I was immature back then. I was immature, I wasn't like just a mega fighting machine
Starting point is 01:15:59 but I was down and just doing stupid shit back then I was down and just doing stupid shit back then. But I was, you still don't, you know, that ain't got nothing to do because you grow with anything because you grow in the business and I've grown a whole lot from what I used to be, getting caught with guns and shit. And you know, them giving me, taking me, cuffing me, pulling me.
Starting point is 01:16:25 I was headed to do five years, and that motherfucker, the judge went in the holding tank, pulled me back out the holding tank and told me, he said, because he seen my son in the room, I just had a baby, and he said, I'm gonna give you this chance, he said, you could go ahead and knock the five years out right now or you can do joint suspension five years.
Starting point is 01:16:52 I said, shit, I'll take the joint suspension. So he had him uncuff me, take me out and release me joint suspension five years. And I did that five years joint suspension. Didn't get no trouble. I did, but I didn't, they didn't know it. And went clean and from, since the beginning of that five year joint suspension,
Starting point is 01:17:17 I did do some stupid shit during that time. I just didn't get, like I said, get caught up for it. But after that, I have not been, to date, I ain't been in no trouble since then from that point on. But not saying, like I said, I don't star shit with motherfuckers. I keep it pushing, because life is too short for that shit.
Starting point is 01:17:40 To be arguing or, you know, motherfuckers trying to, you know, all the talking, all that gang shit. That shit is just, I'm past all of that. I'm trying to create businesses and help people grow. Yeah. And just barbecue, man. And barbecue, that's what I love to do and drink me a beer, smoke me a joint.
Starting point is 01:18:02 There you go. That's right. You know what, I want people to watch this interview and at the end of it I want them to think to themselves, Warren G introduced Snoop to Dre. So West Coast rap wouldn't exist the way it does without you and you saved Def Jam. So the East Coast wouldn't exist the way it does
Starting point is 01:18:19 without you, because that $100 million Def Jam made that, they used that to invest into the next generation of East Coast artists. So Warren G, that's what I'm saying. You are a pillar in hip hop. Justin Bieber. I like comic books, I like the Marvel Universe. You like low-key holding a bunch of branches together
Starting point is 01:18:37 in this thing called hip hop, so man, they gotta give it up to you, man. Yeah. Shit, the thing, what would have been cool, what is cool, even though I gotta wait like four more years, is just if they gave me my masters back, that would be cool. If I was the company, I'd be like, damn, this motherfucker did all this.
Starting point is 01:18:57 Boom, let's give him this shit. We got Jay-Z, we got Kanye, we got all this shit. Drake, we got all these catalogs and shit over here. We don't really need this. Don't you get your masters back after? I got four more years. Four years, she said, okay. But shit, fuck all that.
Starting point is 01:19:14 I need to get this done. Right, yeah. We appreciate you for joining us. No, it's all good. Thank you guys for having me. You're a legend in this game and love to hear your story. I was getting ready to come in here, I was gonna say,
Starting point is 01:19:25 I'm gonna get this shit started off right now. Right now. Ha ha ha ha ha. When we finished up, we got all three of us. Ah! Hey, that was classic. I said it, that nigga crazy. Man, when I seen that shit,
Starting point is 01:19:40 I was like, this shit is crazy. We know you like the squad, but we glad we not number 32. So let's just leave it at that. No, no, no, no. It's all good, man. I ain't no rowdy, fighting-ass motherfucker. But, you know, I'll just be Warren.
Starting point is 01:19:54 You know? I'll just be myself. Thank you for joining us, ladies and gentlemen. It's Warren G. Much love, you guys. It's The Breakfast Club. Good morning. Chach. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning. Church. Wake that ass up. Early in the morning.
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