The Breakfast Club - INTERVIEW:Nick Grant Talks New Album 'Sunday Dinner', Knowing Your Worth, Making A Classic + More

Episode Date: October 20, 2023

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Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Wake that ass up early in the morning The Breakfast Club Morning everybody It's DJ Envy Charlamagne Tha Guy We are The Breakfast Club Jess and Larris is here Of course

And we got a special guest In the building His new album Sunday Dinner Is available now Ladies and gentlemen Nick Grant Nick Grant

What's up baby What's up y'all Thank you for having me I appreciate it Apologies man Please forgive me For sleeping on Sunday Nah it's all good

You got to it I just got to it man I really just got to it One of the best rap albums Thank you for having me. I appreciate it. Apologies, man. Please forgive me for sleeping on Sunday. Nah, it's all good. It's all good. You got to it. I just got to it, man. I really just got to it. One of the best rap albums of the year. Oh, man. I got it right under Killer Mike by Just a Hair. By Just a Hair by Killer Mike Michaels.

Nick's like, all right, man. All right. I respect it. I respect it. But you know, I feel like this is the best album of the year. You think it's the best rap album of the year? For sure. For sure.

Yeah. Why do you feel that way? It's my story. Other than because it's you. Just lyrically, I think I'm above a lot of people. I just don't get that credit just because I don't have certain backing. I don't have certain things. Or I might just be a threat to a lot of different MCs. You say that on the album.

For sure. For sure. So, yeah, that's just what I feel. Explain the title to us. I'm not favoriting. Sunday dinner is just basically me just growing up in my grandmother's crib. My mom and father had, like, addiction issues. And, you know, in their periods of, like, breaking up and trying to figure it out,

I would go back to my grandmother's house. You know, she was a little older raising me. But it was like, yo, all right, I got three rules. School back to my grandmother's house you know she was a little older raising me but it was like yo all right i got three rules school church sunday dinner you know and i'm just picking up all of these different personalities that i want to become and yeah don't want to become it essentially everybody becomes you know an experience on the album so yeah now when you talk about rapping you you you talk about the way that you rap you don't really hear that nowadays right does that bother you deter deter you from you spitting? Because growing up, I'm sure there were so many.

You could go from Nas to Jade, you could go from Taleb to Mos Def, you could go to Kanye, there were so many people that were doing lyricism. You don't really hear that much. I used to be pissed off about it, but I feel like my purpose and my story is just a little different.

I feel like I'm meant to be in this era just because, maybe because it's lacking in this time, and that's my job to kind of carry on tradition in a way. I used to be upset about it, but it doesn't bother me. I disagree with that point, though. In my opinion, you have soundtrack music. Like, I'm talking about like, yeah, I like that because I listen to it,

and I'm like, okay, I hear Belly, State Property Part 2. I'm like, okay, nah, he really is spitting. Ain't nobody else out here really, really getting deep like that. I don't know how to say that. Do niggas put the secondhand music on the soundtrack? What? Secondhand music? No, no.

When they make the soundtrack, do they be like, yo, I'm going to save this shit for the album? See, so see, now I was going to be like, you you know what because we ain't got good movies like that no more so i'm like all right so we need that took me back to like belly i ain't say belly too that was trash but i'm just you know the first belly all right in the state property i you know i mean in a society it takes me back to good movies like that you know no i'm with you i'm with you. I'm with you. I'm with you. I disagree with what Envy said though, only because when you look at the last decade or so of hip hop, the top rappers, the top three rappers are all lyricists. They still are lyricists for sure.

You know what I mean? And that's Cole, Kendrick, and Drake. And then you still got your Wale's and your Big Sean. You've had your Nipsey's. For sure. Like all of those people, Rapsody, Snaps. Like I think all of those people are dope. Carolina. Yeah. For sure. I just think sometimes it like I think all of those people are dope. Carolina.

Yeah, for sure. I just think sometimes it's just a matter of time. I agree with that, I couldn't agree with that more. Have you had your I made it moment yet? I think one of, I had a few moments that I'm like proud of, I think like touring with like Nas and Lauryn Hill was like a good one for me. Just the experience of it was like, it's dope.

You said that on the album and I'm like, I missed when he was on tour with Laur for me. Just the experience of it was like, it's dope. You said that on the album, and I'm like, I missed when he was on tour with Lauryn Hill. What was the line you said? Well, everybody missed that show. She was late. She definitely came. And Nick had to do more songs. Yeah, he had to perform the whole album.

Jesus, the guy had to come out. What was the bar? You said you used to. I used to watch Sister X. My cousin passed away on a field trip, so I rapped about it on the album. I remember everybody just going to see him. I didn't want to see him like that.

This was like my best friend. So I was like, yo, I'm gonna watch this movie. I'm gonna sit here and watch this movie. I'm 10 years old in the crib watching this movie by myself. It kind of helped just get me through that moment, through that trauma. So yeah, I remember telling her about it on the album. I mean, on the tour.

Oh, wow. And she just kind of helped me in that way. So I kind of felt like, you know, it was the perfect time. That was something I was running away from. A lot of the stuff you hear on the album is, like, a lot of just real-life situations that I was running from, and I just finally had to, like, look in the mirror and be like, yo, it's time.

Rob Markman So was it that moment on tour with Lauren, remembering yourself watching Sister Act that made you finally deal with the passing? D Smoke Absolutely. Absolutely. This is an album that I wanted to put out. A mirror tell you, this is like one of the albums I wanted to put out when I first came out. But I don't think I was like mature enough to tell it the way that I'm telling it now. Oh wow.

When I first came in, I was like a wide-eyed child. But now I'm just in a place where I'm matured enough. I'm 35 now. So it's like... Oh, okay. Hey, you still look young. That's what's up. You know what I mean?

Was it growth or did you do some work on yourself? Absolutely. Therapy for sure. Therapy for sure. You're not in control of anything for real. You're under God's law and you gotta find a way to fit into that. And I had to, you know, figure that out.

And I just found the courage to tell the story. Like, even when you listen to like the intro of the album, it's like my mom, you know, my mom is like yelling at a boyfriend but yeah you know and it's and it's it's a way that i i never wanted the world to see my mom so it's like all right that's the first step the the thing that i fear the most gotta open the album you know i'm saying so and the universe worked in a way to where not the universe god worked in a way to where it just fit perfectly on the album and opened up the album. Do you have a favorite song on there?

What song means the most to you on the album? I love all the shit. Yeah, I like that. What song makes you most emotional? Most emotional? I think it's the intro. Worrying about the classic? Yeah, worrying about the classic.

Like just talking about all of that stuff. I remember going to like my neighborhood and I remember Amir pulled up one day and he was like, yo, ain't no windows on these buildings. And the whole time I lived there, I never really noticed that because it was normal to me. So it was like those things, those little things on the album was like things that I was scared to face once again. And I kind of just put it together and kind of got it right.

That's a great record. And you say in the hook, you say, I'm trying to get my people right, but y'all worried about a classic. Yeah. Explain that, because I got some thoughts. For me, it was like, yo, I'm going through different things. I'm maturing, I'm finding myself. I'm going through a whole bunch of stuff,

just family-wise, career-wise as well. And while I'm going through these things, you get people like, yo, when the album coming? When the album dropping? Nigga, did you buy the last album? So I'm going through these things, you get people like, yo, when the album coming? When the album dropping? Like, nigga, did you buy the last album? So I'm going through these stuff, like, through these different things. And that's what inspired, like, the hook. And I'm just, like, seeing people, like, you know, not to be dark, but I'm just seeing people die young.

And hearing about, yo, people that I saw growing up, like, leaving us. So that was one of the things that I just wanted to address. And it's like, yo, I got like real life issues and it's crazy because I feel like I made my best body of work, not trying to make my best body of work. You know? Yeah. Because I would think getting your people right

would be part of you making a classic record. Like if you make a classic record and it takes off, that's more money. For sure. You know? So you kind of do got to focus on the album. Absolutely.

You do. You do. But I feel like the kind of person I am, the kind of artist I am, you got to live life as well. Absolutely. You got to live life

and you know. Because that's what creates that class. I mean, I would imagine I'm not an artist, never been one. You are a comedian.

Yeah, but I'm saying like in form of music. Like, I mean, I can spit a little'm not an artist, never been one, but I don't. Yes, you are, you're a comedian. Yeah, but I'm saying like in form of music. Like, I mean, I can spit a little bit of buzz too, but you know, we not gonna get there. All right, wait. Ripping on any beats. Like, no. But look, don't, right?

No, what I'm saying, I think you would have to go through, live life and go through your, just your trying times, your challenges. That's what makes the classic nobody goes in the studio like yo I'm gonna make a class today you know until it's you don't know until the people tell you it's a move by the spirit man every move by something bigger than you you know right um and me a lot of times it's all about just carrying the integrity in there like I

read something like the Quincy Jones said he's like yo when you think about money why you're creating God walks out of the room mm-hmm you know so you got carrying the integrity in there. I read something that Quincy Jones said. He's like, yo, when you think about money, while you're creating, God walks out of the room. Mm-hmm. So you got to keep that first. You got to keep the story. The story is the most important. I feel like your story is your superpower.

Definitely. I never really felt like that until this album. And I always wonder why, when it comes to music, they want artists to be everything but themselves. They'll bring you in the studio and say, you need to make this kind of record and that kind of record but none of it is what you actually want to make yeah right so sure what's easier is it easier to to make those records or is it easier to do this it's easier to do this for me okay this is easier for me um i think the hardest part was facing it but now that once i got into the groove of it i won't say it was the

easiest thing because the hardest thing was the internal work um yeah but that, once I got into the groove of it, I won't say it was the easiest thing because the hardest thing was the internal work. But once I got into making the album, it became like, yo, this ain't that bad. Naturally kind of just putting the words together, that's like my shit, so it was perfect. Rob Markman I love the line, it's like these niggas play a game called who could die the fastest. I mean, I know it inspired it, but what was it? It had to be like a moment that inspired that. Just hearing about this kid that I knew like growing up, like, man, he's just wilding.

You know, just outside, you know what I'm saying? And just hearing about that. And living like they have nothing to live for. Like you're going to get an extra man or some shit like, this's crazy. I felt like I had to start that hook off right. The hook is one of the most important things to me now, and that's something that I learned. So it was like, yeah, I got to say something that's like, you know, going to stick to them like soul food, Sunday dinner.

Let's go to Know Your Worth, you know, another great record. Is that something you have to tell yourself constantly? Not constantly, but it was something I felt like I have to celebrate myself a little more. Because it's like work, work, work, figure out my problems, figure out the problems of the family, figure out all this other shit and just having so much on my shoulders. So it was like, you know, yeah, it's like, then when I wrote it, I was like, yo, what's something about a black man just saying,

knowing your worth and, you know, celebrating yourself and patting yourself on the back, it's the smallest thing, because you can still celebrate the smallest thing in your journey, so. Cause women say that often, you don't really hear men say that. Like we should. Yeah, for sure, for sure.

But that's the problem. No, it ain't no little sassy no it ain't you gotta know your worth ain't nothing sassy about knowing your worth it's just that women we we like to say it a lot and sometimes women say it and don't even know they were if they just shout it because it's something to be said now but not knowing your worth that's for all human beings like you have to have to know. For sure. What is a man's worth, though? Because, you know, most of the time, men, people base our worth on what we can provide. I hate when they ask questions like that. So what's really a man's worth?

Like, yo, what's my worth? What's a man's worth? All right, go ahead. This is always wrong. But what really is a man's worth? Like, yo, I don't know, yo. What's yours? No, for sure. I think it's based on't know, yo, who's yours? Yeah, nah, for sure.

I think it's based on just the person you are. Yeah. You know, what you think, what you deem is important. Me, I'm all about family. I'm all about just helping people. My whole mentality is like, live as you climb, meaning when you get to a certain,

you do this shit very well, both you guys. But you've been supporting me like since day one. It's like, even just being from Carolina, that shit is hard to make it out of Carolina, bro. So like when you get to a certain place, you help somebody up and when you might get to a place where you need help and that person can, the person that you help can just a cycle. So that's what it's about for me.

Is it hard though? Because you know, your family see you and you're rapping and they see you on TV or whatever and they think that you might have more than what you have. Absolutely, absolutely. Niggas equate TV with money, niggas equate videos with money. It's like, I ain't struggling, I'm good,

but I'm like, I could be in better positions to help you if you just kind of let me. Give me some grace to kind of grow a little yeah you know I'm saying so yeah do they believe it huh do they believe get a couple more calls and you drop to the show And he was asking you your worth and all that. So, yeah. How much was that interview worth? You know how that be, yo. For real. For sure.

Pocket watcher, for sure. Yeah. I love him, though. I want to jump to the record, Heaven. Where did you get the tweet from? Man, I DM tweet. You know, I'm like a huge fan of tweet. Like, the whole.

I always say, like, yo, when I was growing up, if I was signing to anybody, it would have been Missy tweet. Yeah. Just that whole camp. Oh, yeah. Just so innovative, so creative. Man, I just loved her voice. Yeah. Southern Hummerbird is like a classic to me.

So I just DM'd her. She hit me back like, yo, you're incredible. I would love to. Oh, wow. Came by the studio. This black woman. Wow. You know, real black woman.

Like, nigga, I haven't finished a song. I'm one of them. I got to go. Right. For sure. Right. the studio this black woman Wow no real black woman like so yeah not good energy special person I love to eat did you already have the record playing out did you know what you want to do I had to be okay um and I wrote the hook and she came in and sung the hook I got like demoed it but I was like stuck like like stuck creating the records. But once you did the hook, my shit just came so naturally. I was like, man, you can't play with this one. You've been trying to get this feature. Yeah.

Forever. That's what's up. Okay. So what's the story? What's the story you're trying to tell on Heaven? What are you trying to convey? The story on Heaven is basically, it's still in theme with the album and still in line with the album, but it's like, I felt like, even when I start with the first verse,

like, damn nigga, you brave saying you never sold crack. In a funny industry where everything is an act. My whole story was like, man, I would get in interviews and lie and say, act like this perfect person and I wasn't, you know what I'm saying? Because I was afraid motherfuckers to see who I really was, you know, judge me. But I think that was just a young thing. I'm not perfect.

I got a lot of things that I'm working on. And you know your worth. For sure. Yeah. For sure, 100%. Full circle. That's the strangest thing when you're in the industry, though, right? Because you're young, so you really probably don't know yourself.

Right. But now they want you to be something that you're not are you feel like you got to be something that you show so how do you when do you when do you do you feel like you finally find yourself absolutely okay not not not a hundred percent but enough to where I found a foundation you know I'm saying yeah and I'd like just just just the simple things man smile when you see people pull your pants up. I was raised by my grandma.

She was born in 1919. So the wisdom that I got from her, you know what I'm saying? Like, those little things that I never paid attention to until I got a certain age. Those little things, they take you a long way. They take you further than, you know, all this other shit that you focused on would take you. So is that why grandma said it's with no year work because absolutely go hand in hand like the thing that grandma absolutely a million percent like even with my cousin on the beginning like get in the house it's like certain things that trigger certain moments and trigger certain words and kind of yeah helps the

album flow you're doing your homework yeah doing this homework yeah nah for real he over there said yo this is one of once you know he listened to for really over there so tell me about heaven I'm a fucking rap genius. Yes, yo. For real. You look up lyrics. So did your grandmother help you write number six? Like, yo. Come on, yo. Are they putting pressure on you to put on for South Carolina? Oh, man, that's a good question.

I'm putting pressure on myself, really. It's a lot of people that still don't know I'm from South Carolina, even though I waved the flag so heavily. And you influenced me with that in a way, like, even coming out, like yo, you got a whole state to yourself. Rob Markman Yeah. Rob Markman You got to do that. And those, these are like my experiences. Like even when I went home, I shot a movie.

It's Always Love. I shot a movie like a short comedy for the album. And just like the people and all the memories and all the different things. You got a few people that's like, man, keep,pping the city right for south carolina like you're the one nice that kind of that's kind of like a thing that keeps me going when i hear that you got to go to the international african-american museum man you ain't been there yet not yet not yet i'm gonna go back yeah it opened over the summer for sure it opens over the summer i'm gonna go for sure now now what what does success mean to you right because you put you poured your heart into this

album so what do you want it to do because i don't know if you have a goal in mind and if you don't I'm gonna go for sure. Now, what does success mean to you, right? Because you poured your heart into this album. Mm-hmm. So what do you want it to do? Because I don't know if you have a goal in mind, and if you don't hit that goal, you know, you're gonna start doing twerk records. I don't know. Like, would you? See you.

Like, what does success mean to you? I was gonna say, what does success mean to you? Yo, that's like somebody said, where do you see yourself for 10 years? Yo, I hate his questions, yo. Like, I want everybody to grab it and listen, nigga, this is why I want niggas to know. I want niggas to grab it and listen and just love it. She a real ass.

What success means to me? For this project. For this project, got you. Man, I want a kid that listens to hip hop the way I used to listen to hip hop growing up, say, yo, I kind of relate to him. The same way I listen to Jay-Z, the same way I listen to Andre 3000, the same way I listen to Nas, same way I listen to Big and still catch stuff from 20 years ago.

When he said that, I want a kid to have that perspective of the album and I also want him to be like, yo, he came from here. Somebody from South Carolina saying, he came from here, this nigga did it, this is tough, it's tough to get out of here. I'm from a very remote city. Walterboro. For sure.

Not a lot of opportunity. But I want a kid to see me and say, yo, this album is dope, I love this guy, this is for me. When I look in the mirror, I see him, I see myself in him, whatever vice versa and um you know just show him he can do it for real yeah yeah with dope fiends theme for your parents dope fiends theme yeah yeah it was okay it was I threw a little bit of like you know stuff about

the music industry and stuff that I was going through in it but yeah it was yeah for sure because you know you heard Mike's album. And he got the, something for junkies. Something for junkies, yeah, yeah. And he did that, you know, because basically he was saying that, you know, there's no, I don't want to say celebratory way, but when people are addicted, it's actually an addiction.

Like it's something that should be looked down upon. For sure, absolutely. It's, you know, it's a disease, you know what I'm saying? So like for me, it me, it changed my life. I didn't see it that way at the time. I didn't see, like, my mom. Like, I would be angry a lot of times because of the back and forth. So we went on Count Your Blessings.

It's like, yo, I went to 13 schools by the age of 14. Yeah. Wow. Just because of my mom's addiction and her and my dad trying to work it out and the arguing and, you know, trying to figure shit out. But, yeah, but as I grew older and kind of found myself, I was like, yo, these people are still human and they got their own issues. They got their own things that they're fighting

and I had a better understanding of it. Yeah. Did that help you with, cause those stuff can be traumatic. For sure. So when you realize that they just humans trying to figure it out, did that help you to heal heal absolutely absolutely that that that allowed me to give myself grace i just had a son by the way so i was just about to have any kids yeah yeah i was just about to have i just had a

son so congrats um yeah so i found myself like just correcting a lot of stuff that my my parents did i'm just correcting like yo they did this i don't think that's good because you know that's that's something that was traumatic for me so yeah right it's like loud talking and cursing around your kid just the simplest things you know I just looked at him was like yo I don't want to I don't want to be that father or that parent you don't want to be a 80s parent yeah yeah I just want to be a good parent yeah I was gonna say we don't want to be a 2000s perennial. Yeah, for sure. Maybe it's just going. But, you know, you can control that. For sure, for sure.

But how do you even learn how to, how do we learn how to be good parents if we didn't see good parents? And we all parents in the room. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm thinking just correcting, you know. Yeah. I don't know if I'm doing the best job. I think I'm going to ask my kid that at some point. But I think just starting with correcting my parents, you know,

the things that they did with me. You see it. Like, you see it in your parenting, you know, and then it can go either way, either way, no matter how your cause or doubt. Like, I grew up in the house with my mom and my dad, married, you know what I mean? And I turned out great, but then I had a friend who grew up with their parents in the house, didn't turn out great.

You know, it's just whatever your hand is, you just got to roll with the punches. It don't mean, because you grew up in a single family home, that you're going to be a certain way, and vice versa, you know what I mean? Right, for sure. It's all about your household. Absolutely, absolutely. Who was you mad at on Catch This Fade, man? Oh my God, what number was that?

Oh. Yo, like, yo. Oh, my God. What number was that? Oh. Yo, like, yo. Eight, nine. Only got to listen to three songs. Yo, this nigga up here. We on number 28, yo. So how do we? Like, damn.

So who was you trying to fight on Catch This Fade? I mean, that's the one you shot out 843 on that, told me. Yeah, for sure. For sure. Okay. Who was you mad at? You talking about shooting at people? No, I wasn't.

I was saying, like, put the guns down and fight. I was really saying, what is happening? See, look. Y'all see, look. But pop don't mean I'm going to shoot you. What do you mean then? I'm going to punch you. Oh, I know.

You said pop, pop, pop. I thought that was a gunshot. What did he say? He said, you try me, you're going to get popped. Yeah, popped. Like, I'm'ma pop you in your mouth. I didn't think that. I was thinking shoot. You gonna catch this fight? Then you came back and said which one of these is gonna try to catch this fight.

And even like on the second verse, I talk about like my first fight. Got you, got you. Just fighting somebody and I went in the house crying and my dad was like, nigga, why the fuck you crying? You won the fight. Came in the house to cry. You already won. And what verse was that? No and what verse was that no what first was that yeah you didn't listen to that he didn't hear the first one he didn't hear the last verse he just was listening to the first verse so when you say yeah when you told him the about

the pops he was like no the problem is i ain't listening to you on the song yeah that's a hook oh why yeah oh no i hear that why were you crying that's interesting huh okay why was you crying it was my first one i was like first fight you know oh you had one of those days like if you come in the house and you crying i'm gonna make you go fight him again type yeah that's how my dad was too yeah for sure wow yeah i don't know why i started crying my feelings was hurt yeah that's your first fight it don't matter what boy girl whatever your first fight and you feel like you lost. Hell no. You come in.

I was crying. And if you got bad like him. Yeah, you want. Oh, you want. You was crying because you want. Oh, no, I don't know. Was that what you. You. Stopped you.

You know, he was crying because you beat him up. You want to hurt him. It was enough. You lost. You want to be. Right. You still cry when you get angry. No, no, no if you would have lost, you wouldn't have been crying. You still cry when you get angry? No, no, no, no.

I think I was a childhood fan. Yeah. That was like a once in a lifetime thing. Yeah, for sure. Not once in a lifetime. You know, when I was younger, I would cry. Every time you got into a fight? Not every time.

OK. If they said the wrong shit or some shit where it was like, it hurt my feelings. Yeah. For sure. Crying help build you up, nigga. Yeah, it do. It's my feelings yeah that's what it definitely made you cry huh they'll say the wrong shit because everybody knew each other they'd be like oh I know like stuff about your parents yeah okay like that

but everybody would say it be that's everybody's story where I'm from it's like everybody yeah you just get a dollar more nigga that's it break down two sides two sides which is like something fun I didn't want that I didn't Come on, break it down, y'all. We talking about his album. We'll break it down, y'all. Go ahead. Two sides. Yeah, two sides is basically me just wanting to have fun. And, like, just looking at the industry, man, I just, I be frustrated because I feel like, yo, I feel like the certain niggas, it's the lift as you climb mentality, man. Just help certain niggas. And I be feeling like people say certain things to you in this business and none of them come true I also feel like having integrity makes you a troublemaker you know I just wanted I just in anything

anything that I've ever done like you know yeah um if I'm willing to stand on something is it always hurt me I could definitely really today you definitely right when you see yeah now don't like to see somebody confident. No, you're just a troublemaker. You're just a troublemaker, Jess. All right, yo. You're a troublemaker. No, yo, I be standing on real stuff,

and they be like, what? No, that's messed up. I'm like, yo, it's just how I, what I believe. And they be getting mad at that. They don't like confident people, yo. For sure, for sure, yeah. Another common theme throughout the album is you keep repeating that you you're a threat to people you feel like people look at you as a threat yeah lyrically yeah lyrically i think a lot of people stay away

from me for sure was there any particular moments that made you realize like oh they really scared of me a man over there in the corner like please tell this story he's like what story is it i can see what happened what happened it's been I've been all right I won't name them names I've been on records with like people that you probably love and respect mm-hmm because the verse is better when it comes out I don't hear the record I believe she like that happened that happens a lot to me what song y'all look at you know a lot of stuff me did you have a conversation with the artist after that like why y'all took me oh no I was just like yeah you know we ain't built to like mm-hmm yeah I would have never did that I've been like a nigga you kill me you gotta write

something else yeah they wanted you to be on there my mugga. I wouldn't even did that. They wanted you to be Nick Cannon. You like nah, Nick. I'm Nick Grant. I really speak. I don't be coming in playing with y'all niggas. I don't be wilding out on y'all shit. I'm dead ass. Oh jeez, crazy. All right, cool.

Wasn't you with TDE at one point? It felt like it was a TDE, Nick Grant thing happening at one point. Yeah, it was, it was. I was working with Punch on some stuff. Just creative differences. He had a group and I just felt like that wasn't the direction I was going. And I had to get this story out.

So yeah. Oh, they wanted you to be in a group? Yeah, we did. I actually did a group project with him. Yeah. A rap group? I didn't hear that one. It came out?

Came out. I don't remember that at all. Yeah, I don't want to promote it sign over there. Yeah Yeah, who are the you it was you punching some other people in the group? Yes Yo Yeah, yeah just creative differences it's just creative differences though um yeah yeah but yeah got a lot of respect for punch for sure a lot of that but you think stuff like that is one of the reasons that nick grant isn't in the conversation that he probably needs to be because people take you off of records that probably would have been absolutely absolutely 100 million percent for sure sure. For sure.

I be feeling like, yo, only person that kind of like ran to it and like respected it was Kendrick. He was like, yo, you're one of my favorite rappers. This project is crazy. That's dope. You know, when we do our record, I'm not going to hold no punches. Yeah. And we talk like that, like just as rappers, like, yo,

this is going to be the fight of your life. You know, fucking with me, it's going to be one on ones. But yeah, he was the only one in the music business that's probably that ran to it. Rob Markman So why not reach out to somebody like him? Him and Dave got their situation now. Like... Davey Sanchez Yeah, with a camera. Yeah.

Rob Markman Yeah, here's the time. Davey Sanchez Yeah. Rob Markman How about you reach out for him then? How about you help him out? I mean, I know Kendrick, but I don't talk to Kendrick. I love Kendrick, but, you know, I don't have a relationship with him like that. Dave, I talk to Dave. All right, that's what's up.

So see what you can do. Have you heard Sunday Dinner? What, any conversation? I'm not sure. I'm not sure. Okay. We talked through, like, a mutual friend, but, like, when I seen him, that was the conversation with him. That's what's up. Yeah. We talked through like a mutual friend, but like when I seen him, that was a conversation

with him. That's what's up. Well, Nick Grant, Sunday Dinner, man. Let's get into a record off the album, man. What you want to play? What you want to play? Man, let's play whatever. Let's play Bravo.

You want to play Bravo? Yeah, let's play Bravo. What Bravo is? Like that's you celebrating yourself again. You Bravo, right? Oh, my God. Yo, just play it. Yo, wait.

All right. Okay, okay. Before we get to bravo okay what is this we're brought on the bravo like i like to see people celebrating they felt man um that wasn't necessarily about me it was just about everybody okay like where i was from like where I'm from Okay yeah What tore you down To break this To bring this This about Yeah Yeah Okay

Damn Niggas don't care about this Nah they don't yo Alright Fuck him up Alright so he's Going to listen to Dr. Dre called you the other day

Huh Dr. Dre called you the other day Nah Dr. Dre ain't called me Look he looking up shit. Who said that online, yo? Somebody just told me Dr. Dre called you the other day. Dr. Dre called you? That's crazy.

Allegedly. All right, allegedly. Dr. Dre allegedly called him. Say what, yo? Let's get it. I don't know. That's why I asked you, Jeff. Oh, all right.

We're going to say, no, you're not going to tell us Dr. Dre won't jump on Bravo. You're not going to tell us that, yo? I don't know. That's why I asked you, Jeff. All right. We're going to say, no, you're not going to tell us that because you want to jump on Bravo. You're not going to tell us that, yo. He's so stupid, man. Play Bravo. It's Nick Grant. Nick Grant, thank you for coming, brother. Thank you. How long was that?

That was 15 minutes. I'm trying to beat my record from last time. Nigga had me up in 15 minutes last time. Oh, no, no. This is 45. 32. 32. 32?

Hey. You know what I'm saying? Let's do it. That's when you ask a nigga about every single song individually to try to get it. Surprise ain't no more for an hour. It's Nick Grant. It's The Breakfast Club. Yes.

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