The Breakfast Club - It's Up There: feat Karlous Miller

Episode Date: November 23, 2024

The Black Effect Presents... It's Up There! Karlous Miller From the  @WildNOut  Show stops by with Big Loon On the heels of Dave Chappelle comedy special and Katt Williams on Shannon Sharpe's club shay shay Karlous miller in this full episode of Its Up There Podcast. Uncover the untold stories and heated debates as we delve into the enigmatic aura of 50 Cent, dissect Young Buck's departure from G-Unit, and engage in a fiery debate on the battle between Netflix and HBO. Get ready for an unfiltered conversation that explores the depths of the entertainment industry." Key Discussion Highlights: 50 Cent's Aura: Dive into the mystique surrounding 50 Cent, exploring his impact on the industry and the intricacies of his business ventures. Young Buck Leaving G-Unit: Analyze the dynamics of Young Buck's departure from G-Unit and the fallout within the hip-hop landscape. 50 Cent vs. Suge Knight: Explore the legendary rivalry between 50 Cent and Suge Knight, questioning whether Suge was dethroned as the industry's boogeyman. Diddy, Jay-Z, and 50 Cent Rivalry: Uncover the long-standing rivalry between Diddy, Jay-Z, and 50 Cent as they jockey for billionaire positions in the entertainment industry. Heated Debate: Netflix vs. HBO: Witness a passionate debate between Loon and Karlous Miller on the supremacy of Netflix over HBO or vice versa. Loon argues that Netflix dominates the market, while Karlous defends HBO's enduring relevance. Dave Chappelle's $40 Million Deal: Delve into the intriguing question of why Netflix would release the exact amount of Dave Chappelle's deal and explore Loon's curiosity about ownership in the context of 85 South's Netflix special. Community Engagement: "Which streaming giant do you think reigns supreme – Netflix or HBO? Share your thoughts on the 50 Cent aura, Young Buck's departure, and the Netflix vs. HBO debate in the comments below." Exclusive Patreon Content: "Access exclusive content and extended discussions by joining our Patreon at www.patreon.com/ItsUpTherePodcast. Dive deeper into the minds of Karlous Miller and Big Loon with behind-the-scenes insights and unreleased content." Relevant Hashtags: #itsuptherepodcast #karlousmiller #50cent #youngbuck #netflix #davechappelle #kattwiliams #chicobean #davechappelle #85southshow #karlousmiller #dcyoungfly #netflix Connect with Us: Join our Discord https://discord.com/channels/1172599426397765834/1172599427404402771See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Not a consumer. I'm saying as somebody watching my platform, if I put 85 South in number six, and that shit ain't even came out yet. You just said that. watching my platform, if I put 85 South in number six, and that shit ain't even came out yet. You just said that. I said the hard numbers, the demographics, behind the scenes, okay, when someone,

there's value to every viewer. There's an ad company that wants to sell something to every person that clicks on the 85 South podcast, Netflix show. You're looking at it in a small scope. I'm looking at how Netflix looking at it. They're selling that data, bro. Does Netflix try to, does Netflix own that content

or y'all own it? What content? That y'all did for them, did they pay y'all for it? I might as well enjoy yourself. You know your car getting broke into tonight. So will it be on the 85 app? I guess is my question at some point. Give Chappelle 40 million because it's saying listen we want to own this. We don't want to play the game where you own it and we want to give you 40 and we want it. Is that okay?

Do you believe that? That's what that best was being reported. And even with Kevin Hart. Who would report that? think about how it works Netflix Why would they want to do because they don't want you to be unreasonable and think it's a forty million dollar number on a comic Without it being ownership on their side No, but the way that you say it you gonna're going to mislead people and make them think that they just.

Tell me what I said that I mislead. That they gave that man that money. Nah, come on man. They know what I'm talking about. They don't give nobody. You think that? Yeah, I'm talking about why they came and offered him 40 million dollars. Anybody that's below that standard, don't watch this show.

You got to understand that we don't even know if that's the number. Whatever the number is we know they're interested in owning the content on that platform because I hear comics time and time again speak to that. Big comics speak to yo the reason why the front end is so much is because they're interested in owning it and not showing the numbers Not even giving you real data as to what it done That's why on YouTube and things you can't have Fake views and certain things because they'll they aud auditing this because they're selling ads against it. So what happens is Netflix is taking that hard data that they're telling you is useless. And it's unfortunate that you are this high in the business and thinking this data is useless when this data is so important.

You look you not even hearing what I'm saying. I'm listening. Go ahead. They give a f*** what you watching on there or they want you to have this account? Who? The company. Hell yeah. You think they give a f*** what you watch? They don't.

F***ing right I do. You can have a Netflix account and never watch nothing. You don't watch Netflix every day? I think there's extreme value in what is actually being watched on Netflix. To feel like we win. When I say black people, we're slaves of symbols. No, we're not. We gotta stop thinking like that.

No, this is the proof, bro. We spend all our money in the consumer market. Who believe why? Google it. Why? Because we're slaves of symbols So what I'm saying is we're slaves to the consumer market and symbolisms Tell me how give me a give me something in some indicator that says we're not because there is no we They spend the millions of dollars on weave every every year black women do this they business of course

That's their business, but I'm telling you that they don't need weave. They buy, this is fake hair, horse hair, some boy. That's what they want. Of course, but I'm- It's free will. You ain't listening to me. Yes I am. You can't be a hypocrite on the platform.

I ain't a hypocrite. Yes you are. Cause you just said we slaves and you wouldn't bought all them chains. If I was a hypocrite I'd say y'all. You said we. That mean I'm not a hypocrite. Well, that's what I'm saying.

Everybody's not. See that? But what I'm saying is. If I say we, that mean I'm not a hypocrite. If I say y'all, that mean I'm separating from y'all. Well, why are you yelling at them? Who's yelling? But what I'm, when you saying we are slaves,

people gonna hear that and be like, what the fuck is you talking about? No they're not. But what I'm saying is there is no way to universally speak for all black people. Who said that? What I'm saying is like you can't say they spend a billion dollars on weed. I think you got a phone or Google?

Yeah. You need to spend some time on it. If black women stop spending money on weed, what would happen? Well nothing if they have no direction with what to do and if the end if us as black men don't accept them with their natural health. Okay so if black men stop buying. So this is the overall problem again we are slaves this is what I keep. Now niggas wanna loan me the death, some little loans. Yeah exactly. My man loan. That's my man too. Both loans. Old loan, new loan, what loan? Okay, okay, okay. All Ops know is up there and it's stuck there, man. When it's up there, man, it's stuck there.

Shut up. But y'all don't give that. Y'all give take care of the bid. And then these dudes, they all is tycoon. So, you know, me, if I'm'm not careful this could slip away You know, so I gotta be you know, I'm I'm paying attention cuz I got all these deals bro You got a thing. I only got a co-host. I got the same deals everybody else got with the same ad companies I got it all I got audio deals video deals patreon deal. I got Prize picks I got the same things across the board, right?

So I gotta maintain that all lit without even a co-host. So my intensity is through the roof. Yeah, and that's why we finna talk about just the whole them together, all of that, then hit him solo. It's like, bro, you gotta you gotta for me i'm out on the island with this like trying to figure it out which is working i'm doing well bro in every every aspect of this but i'm cognizant that like now we're talking about your boy what's up g Oh gee. Look.

Jeremiah Phillips. 18 months ago, popping. Popping, popping. I gotta keep having good conversations. Like this one, like when I sit with 50 Cent. Like when I sit with all these, I got to have these, got to be. Man, you been talking to 50?

No, I got him on the calendar. Oh, okay. Yeah, I got him on the calendar now. Yeah, I ain't hollered at 50 yet. Yeah, we got. I had brief interactions with him. Yeah. He came to a couple shows.

I know he f*** with you. Yeah, he most definitely got to. Yeah. He gotta come in here and talk some s*** with us, you know. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I hope we get the right version of 50 Cent, though. I got, see. A lot of my s*** now, when they get 50 on the show, they be wanting to hear the businessman.

I need to hear the n**** from the street. Because his street knowledge just as good as the business side. Like they want to talk. That n**** used to, you know them little clips he used to drop on Worldstar? Like, see, you know what's wrong with you n****s? You n****s always be waiting on other n****s to do something. What the f*** is wrong with you n****s? Crone do something wrong. You need to be grown as man. You got two legs and two feet.

Get your like that type of shit. Like they might not choose the best words, but I find the motivation and inspiration and all types of like, right. Just from the culture, bro. Yeah, we're at moment at the end of one of them. I think it's the Hey, my video. Jim Jones just come out in the full length fur,

reach in the coat pocket, pull out big water money. Like as a young man, that shit turned me up. Really with my psychology of how I wanted this to go like, oh, you could be a and still get that paper. Like that bird man. Like all that, I like, now that I'm grown and I look back, all that stun that he did in them rhymes, that was a specific version, like that's tailored for me.

Like you don't have to do it like a rapper do it, but the mother that's trying to inspire you to get some more, you really gotta be able to take the message from that. I still love to see shit like that. Like I love when Sexy Red be out and then she pull her stacks out. You get what I'm saying?

Like most people think she just being ignorant, but you think, like when you know what she doing, she's really talking to people who don't have that platform. And I don't mean to say that she ignorant, I'm just saying, you know, that's the perception. That's the perception, right, right. Yeah, but no, we relate to that. That turn us up.

You gotta see it. Some shit gotta see it. Like, fuck all the talk and all that. Motherfuckers be wanting to see, okay, I did this and I got that paper. Sometimes you just gotta, you gotta see it. And with 50, man, I think he's valuable asset to the culture for real, for real.

Yeah, yeah, he's valuable. Yeah, that that nigga man. I'm talking about he go to talking and it's like, oh. His impact was crazy when he came out and there's just the whole allure of him being shot that many times. People just wanted to hear what he had to say. Like he was gonna drop a message from the other side. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. He had a hell of a lot. Then he played into a bulletproof vest, bulletproof top. He showed, like he ain't went out bad once. He ain't let us down yet.

Even the public shit, as you know, that be considered like business flops or failures, but it's like, that's just part of the game, and he's still up. He ain't went out bad. You get what I'm saying? Yeah, yeah. Nah, he, and Ante had win against Giants. Yeah. Cause he challenged J and them still to this day, did it. I ain't buy out to none of them. He fought for that spot. Cause he saw he was like, y'all just gonna let two niggas get money? I'm gonna get a billion through. Without them niggas.

Right. That's the important part. Yeah. I'm gonna do it without them niggas and I'ma do it without them niggas. That's the important part. I'ma do it without them niggas and I'ma do it in a different way than them niggas. Like just think about that because coming through rap saying fuck Jay-Z is like pissing where you live at. You can't come and be challenging Jay-Z and did it in New York and against Murder Inc. at the time. Like he come through that shit, he fought for what he got. he come through that she fought for what he got He did that boy fought for what he and he stood on it and like you said he ain't let a nigga down one He let us down

Ain't nobody took nothing from ain't nobody He might be the only rapper nigga that done kicked that high level gangster shit like no He you can't say that because then there's too many that you'll be overlooked that don't went that far that they went out bad Hey, man, she give me some more shit. Oh Hold and kick that high-level gangster talk though. It's the fuck he did that I've been shot nigga I'm ready to die. Oh, nigga Look if it's beef cock it and dump it the drama really mean nothing to me I ride by and blow your brains out

Murder murder think about how much shit hove and wrapped about right and think about just how much shit you done learned about his life Over the years that you know is a fact that you you know I'm saying like he don't shy away from it But think how much is he never spoke of right? But that makes it different cuz 50 coming out saying I shoot up your mama house nigga Make your ass look for me like he ain't talking about hustling at this time He was straight grimy on some I'm talking about that level of gangsta shit, bro when a nigga come and say If it's beef what he says, but that's what I'm saying

That's not a character that he created. I know. He played that. Yeah. Yeah, it's shit. But then, usually go out mad though. Usually we catch the rap nigga that kick that kind of shit. They done caught him and kicked him in the ass

somewhere down in his career. I will, yeah. He done got somebody done beat on him. Like even Suge, after so long, you get knocked out. After so long, like. You gotta keep it, like, I don't think you can only look at shit like that type of shit one way, though. Like, nigga, the baddest motherfuckers

then got knocked out. And I'm not saying, I'm saying dethroned. That don't mean that you ain't still a bad motherfucker. When I'm saying knocked out, I mean dethroned. And when say 50 never went out bad. We're not even talking about took a loss We spoke to him having bankruptcies and things like that business, right? But them can be considered losses to people who don't have the vision that we have to understand where he's at when I'm Well, that's from the outside looking right? How you protect your your business assets exactly like that. It ain't like that's from the outside looking in. Right, but what I'm saying is. People don't understand how you protect your business assets.

Exactly. It ain't like that's a failure. That's just how you protect the money and shit you already got. But what I'm saying is he hasn't been dethroned. At least that's what I mean when I say he never went out bad. I ain't, that's what I mean, he never went out.

But I'm saying most niggas, they at some point, like Suge, when I say he was knocked out, it ain't cause he lost a fight I'm saying the atmosphere around sugar change to where he was now dethroned from that scary He still sure tonight. He still sure tonight, but not that scary. Yes the fuck he is They knock him they stay hitting on him color. I know it but if they wouldn't that hit sugar in the nineties, bro She they they tried it was a few motherfuckers Sure head up so yeah head out bomb time about catching Donnie at the club and try to knock him out

Shoot him have him up here at the thing where he running niggas over trying to get away Like bro, you know like what do you think happened in Las Vegas? They were trying to kill him too. No, he up there to try to bargain, to get in on a deal. I'm talking about the night Park got killed. They were going to kill him too. They were shot at the car. They wouldn't aim at that one person. He got hit up too. Children got hit up a lot of times. But that's a direct violation. That's what I'm telling you. That's what I'm saying. Right? But for a minute that was a horror.

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But if you in the game, 50 cent ain't been dethroned. He been bullying them. But he ain't just walked around and slapped motherfuckers. They done had fights. He done took they money from him that's worse if I were young bucking him out I probably tried to kill that nigga but you don't that's not you feel me that took millions for me versus slapping me that's only watching that shit from the fan point of view now I'm not defending either side right what I'm saying what I'm saying, if you were on the business side,

he didn't take shit. I can't say that he took nothing. But what I'm saying is, if he's- If I come crash 85 South, you know how much of an arch enemy I am to you? If I come and make these people- If I send you to 85 South, and shit didn't work out, and I still continue to make millions of dollars

And like they did at G unit you can leave here and say they fucked my money up They took my money because they still got it. They could we had the money before we see So if you come over here your shit don't work out that don't mean that I took name from you If you come over here and your shit don't work out, that don't mean that I took name from you. That just mean you wasn't able to use the infrastructure that I created to create this money. This is revisionist history. On the business side.

Nah, this revisionist history. You know too much about hip hop, dude. I know you're hip hop. Listen, Young Bok and 50 Cent situation in particular, 50 was putting it out to ruin him, his career. He would keep on, that's what 50 do. He use this platform to say, he embarrasses you. He like, he puts stuff out to diminish your value in the marketplace.

And that to me is worse than us fighting. I can take a fight from him. Hey man, I don't know. But to make me go from selling 200,000 my first week to 2,500 my first week, you done crashed my company. Nobody should be able to do that. Well everything in this business is on perception, especially with a rapper, not for y'all and not for me. We hold numbers and listens and things like that. With rappers, they live on perception. So once we view you as not the guy

That we thought you were it affects it affects the business All right So this is the argument that I've been hearing from the 50 cents that if you came out and you went platinum And you sold all these records right and you you tied up on the business side When you when you successful you won, you want all the credit for your success You got to take the same credit when you're not successful or when you stumble or when you fail or when you flop It can't be all I did this shit by myself When you come out in your first G unit debut you sell a million, right? And then when you come out and say fuck them and then you you sell

2500 copies But that's the area that's nobody's fault, but yours, but the arrogance of men and the crowd see sometimes The crowd to make you think you bigger than you are You could deal with the crowd saying yo, you don't need them niggas man. Why you be with them niggas? Yo, bro, you had nigga 85 side nigga together, man You don't gotta be on tour with them nigga. Carlo go by yourself, right? You you don't need them niggas, but you were OG veteran It don't affect you but we talking about a young nigga come out of cuz see here's the thing even when I say we're 50

We're not talking about young buck, right? No, this is just a hypothetical Yeah, but but it's but it's just a situation for me and you because I think it's so much information just in that Altercation between the two. You know I'm saying from a business perspective. It's like yo, I believe him had crashed his company I believe him to had literally affected how the marketplace views this guy along with what he's done But I think 50 was hammering it down. No, but you got to keep in mind this Also, I think 50's argument from the way I hear it from interviews in the way that he was like Disputes the claims or whatever. I'm not defending nobody. I'm just telling you what I hear on both sides I'm hearing that he says hey if I gave you a

Opportunity and I'm telling you I'm taking you where I'm going, you meeting the Vitamin Water people, you meeting the Reebok people, you know the Louis Vuitton people, I done took you to the Nike people, you mean to tell me you ain't had no hustle about yourself where you couldn't create no more lanes? Exactly.

I got these clothes, you ain't tried to jump in and throw nothing on or wear nothing in the video. I got this liquor. You want to drink this other liquor for free. You ain't trying to, you're not making yourself an asset. I got all these avenues where you can get paid. And all you want to do is rap. You're not on social media. You ain't out here trying to help sell no tickets.

You just leaning on me to pay you. That would be the argument, right? And I agree with 50 in that. And you feel what I'm saying? Because the truth of the matter is this. I think that's the thing. He wanted all the artists that didn't find success over on his platform to create more revenues for themselves. You got the light.

You're with the hottest nigga in the game. You're supposed to be able to parlay that into other opportunities for yourself. The rapper though. You should be able to, like if I'm putting you on this platform, right? You talented. I believe in your talent. I fuck with your raps. If you got a hit and you want me on it, I'm going to get on it. But until until you bring me something I can't just get on bullshit because I'm your homeboy, right? Bring me some shit that could be a hit. Yeah now now let's make some money cuz you know Hit records make money. Yes when motherfuckers make something that's going when it's viral when it's a hit when you're trending

That's what people want. You're supposed to be able to use the resources to make that So if you don't take advantage of the resources, and I'm out here getting up every day, I'm in the office, I'm in the studio, I'm working on music, I'm calling people for you, setting up shit and you ain't showing up. And I'm spending the money, you on my dime, but every time I go and some shit go for me,

you supposed to get some, cause I got some, we still working. Right. Work! Right, I'm with you on that. but and also here's the thing though when I examine the rapper that usually come from a low-income Environment I usually see them go and get with someone like a 50 cent or get in this industry And then they double back and they first objective is to shine on the hood. This the thing, this is the thing. As an artist, that's the price you pay for having to go through another artist.

If an artist came up and they grinded their shit up and they got their own record label situation, it's not their responsibility to go and put you on. This a business. Yes. They looking for people who we can market, who we can make money off of right now. Or in the next few years, you got talent,

you just a little rough around the edges. You just need to be in a real studio. You need to be around some business. I'm gonna try and take you out the hood. But as soon as you put that money in they pocket, they go right back to the hood. To shine on you. And they ain't no return on investment. Because what happens is at least what I think is that they try to show the hood that I'm no longer like y'all. Or go back and say we made it.

We made it. It might be we made it but at the same time like if it's we made it why you keep pulling up in the Bentley don't nobody else got nothing why you keep pulling up in the Bentley don't nobody else got nothing or you keep pulling up in the Rolls Royce. The same way that you don't have no responsibility to make sure so everybody else everybody is grown so we ain't done nothing but it's not necessarily we that's what I'm somebody from right here who had the same opportunities as you I got up every day with you I went to school with you every day you sat beside me. I spent a night on your grandma

How we ate the same food you spent the same summers in this regular motherfucker you had the same opportunity. I had yes So if I got if I'm if success to me look like a Bentley Why should I buy suburban so you can have something but that's why it don't look like we when they come back so when they come back it looked like I made it not we made it so when they show up with the I made it talk what happens is nigga they become a target now I try to keep myself as a target when you left of. It ain't about what you came back with. Yeah, it is. No, it's not.

Because you can't be a target. As soon as you made it out the hood, you became a target. You gotta be in the nigga frame to be a target, though. Soon as you left the hood, you became a target. I'm not going to reach, though. No, you're not. Your people still stay right there.

You're going to come home eventually. That's true. When you left. That's true. Whether you left on good terms in your hood or bad terms, are you better than us because you left. That's true. Whether you left on good terms in your hood. Oh, you better than us cuz you left That's thank you the shit cuz you moved up such as such. Are you what? Oh, you're with us no more That's true. Whether you got it or not. That's true That's true your people still there

You know, I mean it them guys go to the league or go get that rap money or go get that business, real estate money and go back and say, mama, we made it, I'm finna move you outta here. She looking right in the face and said, no the fuck you ain't, cause I ain't going nowhere, I don't know nothing now. It ain't, I ain't never wanted. This the house I wanted.

I raised my kids here. This is it for me. I ain't going nowhere. There's plenty of people who don't never wanted, who parents don't want to move out that house. Yeah, that's true. Grannies and all. So sometimes even if your money right,

you can't move your people. Cause they don't want to move. That's the thing. Granny don't want to move sometimes. I don't want that big, I don't want to do all That's the thing. Granny don't want to move sometimes. I don't want that big. I don't want to do all that. Yeah. Know what I'm saying? I'm going to do it for you, Granny. I'm going to get you. I don't want to do it. I don't want all that. You definitely got that vibe out there. It's a lot of people like that who don't, who even if they hit that lick, they not leaving the hood. Leaving whenever they playing.

That's crazy, but it makes sense too. Cause I know them people. I know them people, man. But see, as a rapper, it's a little different, bro. Because even the OG rappers like boosts to say, yo, get that money, get from down there. Because even if your intentions is pure, the circumstances is rare.

Man, you done put yourself amongst kings, man, and you just don't drink beer around wine sippers, man. That's the thing about it. You don't even have to be a rapper. Look at it on a smaller scale. You can just be a nigga who work for the city. Whoever said it, when he ain't at work, or you know, you like to fix up cars.

You like to go to the car show, take your dog out, let the kids run around, throw a little something on the grill, put your chain on, put your, you know what I'm saying, put your shit on, put your outfit on, be yourself. Just cause you a nigga with a clean ass car on the east side, do you not understand there's some more niggas on the East Side

that hate you for that? Of course. But what I'm saying is, you gonna have, you gonna have- He gonna face the leaving, Paul, we talking about. You gonna have enemies no matter what it is you doing in life or where it is you stay. But the coming back, Paul, bro,

the leaving and going to get something that they feel like they can't attain and they're coming back I don't know. It's a little rough. I don't know what you go home You know my fuck some motherfuckers is just natural born haters facts. That's it. That's literally what they put him do They are born. They is just it's internal Yeah, and that hate come from deep down inside. Yeah No matter what what they got going on. They ain't never gonna like what the next person doing Yeah Same way motherfucking kill co cheese man. I'm cool. It happened

Because he was about to go to school and he was dead nigga, bro bro That's how it be fucked up out here, but you need it that's the balance He was about to go to school and he was that nigga, bruh. That's how it be. Fucked up out here. But you need it, that's the balance. That's a fact, man. That's the opposite side of this shit. You gonna get a whole lot of love, but even if you get a little bit of hate,

it's gonna still be heavy. It's gonna be heavy, man, that hate. But you need that, that fuel to keep going and knowing that you ain't perfect yet. Will you ever be though? Nah. So are you striving for it knowing you won't be it? Nah, I mean I think you have to try to strive to be perfect. So even when you fall short, you at least try hard enough to be a good person. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. Like you'll never be perfect, but you to be a good person. You know what I'm saying? Like you'll never be perfect but you can be good. You can definitely be a good person

or a great person. Excellent. But you'll never be perfect because God made us imperfect. The most you can be is a 99. You'll never be 100. Right. Yeah. Welcome this up there podcast. I go by Big Loon, your active and attractive host. Man, we already been rolling, but I do want to introduce the podcast. Today I got a tycoon in the comedian space, a tycoon in the podcast content space, an actor. The guy is all over the place and killing shit. I got Carlos Miller. What's going on? What's happening in I appreciate going on they appreciate you

Appreciate you having me right as always Always dope to chop it up which and go back and forth and have verbal combat and shit. Yeah, I love it, bro Yeah, you wanted on the guys that I Be like, yo bro got those ideas like me, like where it's like, yo, you done thought about a number of things. Most definitely. And I find that in people that do comedy a lot.

You know what I'm saying? I find that people that in comedy, at least the people I bump into, and that I've studied, they have a lot of thoughts and opinions on things. Yeah, because comedy will change your brain chemistry, the way that you think about things. And then you just, once you learn how to like,

start filtering real life through like your creative process, you look at everything different. I don't even know if that makes sense to people who don't do that, but it's just like creative people. The way you see things, like artists look at life different. Like people who can paint, people who can draw, or you know what I'm saying, people who do stuff with their hands, who can build shit.

They just have a different little level that they can take shit. Like people who can do math in their head, they can just take it to another level that regular people don't. Once you start looking for The humor even in the worst situations. It'll just change your whole perspective on shit

I have so many like you spend your time just having like you said your own thoughts and yeah being in your own World so you have your own opinion when something pop up Yeah I always like to wait and just see what happens first. Because I love to go back to the, you know how like when it be some shit and it be like mass hysteria or like somebody trending or some shit or whatever the situation is. I always like to be like, hold up, hold up, don't say nothing yet. Wait, wait, wait.

Because it's always going to be, that's when the most ridiculous stuff come out. I do that every time. Because you remember when COVID came out, they was like, you know, black people can't get this shit. That's like what? Yeah, I love that part. Bro, I do that every day. Remember when COVID came out they was like, you know black people can't get that shit. Like what? Yeah, I love that part. Bro, I do that on purpose, right? So with like pop culture, I have a side of the park as I do with no guess where it's just me and the camera. Yeah, you need shit like that. And so when I do that, I talk about topics, but I always wait.

Cause I don't even want to be involved in the clickbait shit. I don't want to be involved. And then I want to have an opinion that's like formatting on it. I don't want to be swayed by what everybody's saying right now, because when you listen to these opinions come out, they usually are along the same lines.

When stuff like that happens, it's like everybody's kind of saying the same thing. It's just he dropped his it's like, everybody's kinda saying the same thing. It's just, he dropped his podcast on Monday, he dropped Tuesday, he dropped, they all saying the same fucking thing. But you know what's crazy is though, like as you get deeper into the industry or the entertainment world,

it ain't until one of those stories pop out that you really know what really happened to make you look at all that shit totally different. You know what I'm saying? It's like when some shit come out and it's something that's close to somebody that you know or people that's involved or things that you heard about prior to it coming out,

you like, why it's coming out now? This old, this happened. Damn, this shit old. Damn, that ain't what happened. Then you be like, oh, they gotta put some sauce on it. Spinning it. Yeah. Yeah.

It's ridiculous. And it's fucked up that that's the way that we have to be entertained. And I think it's like, that type of shit is okay and it's acceptable, but it can't be our source of real news. Exactly. Like our entertainment can't be our news. But they've got it mistaken because

they don't understand. See we went from, we think that just get informed. We don't understand what misinformed on a lot of stuff. Yeah. Because they think it's better than having no information. Or disinformed. Right. We're told that you dumb if you don't know nothing. So just tell me something. Yeah, and like I said, that can't be, our entertainment can't be our news. Right. Because shit is, it's just like having vegetables on the plate, we might not always like it, but we need to hear real shit.

Yes, facts. We don't need to just hear the sauce. Right. We need to hear the real shit so we can really make honest opinions about how we move forward as a culture, as a people people as a race How can we prevent some shit from happening if we just keep getting the hyped up? Sensationalized version like give us the whole facts of this shit

And you know what that's why when I had these conversations on the part I like to just have comments. I don't like I won't talk to people who certain people that are asked me Yo, what what's the questions or something like that? I don't talk to people who certain people that are asked me yo, what what's the questions or something like that? I don't talk to them. Yeah, I don't really like I think that's one thing that's getting overlooked We don't do a lot of interviews, right? Sometimes we just we want to have real-life organic conversations and sometimes you can't when it's somebody you a fan of and you got Interview type questions or you know shit that you always wanted to ask him you're asking but it ain't like you gotta so tell me how What you know unanswered question? Yeah things that hasn't been answered yet

But to bring somebody in and like so how did you yo, that's not what we know How did you start the 80s? Yeah, come on? What we doing yeah, we're too unique for that with that sometimes you need to do that So because you be you're on different platforms and they have different audiences and you can be you do have to be introduced to shit like that. But we do introduce it but it's not the layered introduction the way they do it. So how does it do it? So how did you do this? So how did you? It's like it's a it's an overarching introduction of what we're talking about. And then we dig into whatever we're talking about on it.

But you answered a lot of these questions that people ask over and over about some of these things. It's cool. I mean, of course, but. Whatever they wanna know. Yeah, but I think podcasting is, at least on this side, I try to bring some, where we just have a natural conversation.

But you had a lot of good guests on here. You was going back and forth with Dr. Umar and shit. Yeah, man. You got to got some intense moments. Yeah, yeah, that was a good one, man. That's hard, man. Keep doing your thing, bro. Yeah, now we build and we look good.

I love to see different outlets. I love to see different interviews and just get different perspectives. When I'm at the crib and I'm just chilling, I click on everybody's shit just to see. I know you consume a lot, man. You know all the rap niggas that come in, you be knowin' shit. I'm still a fan of the culture of, you know what I'm sayin'? I get to look at the shit as a grown ass man now.

And really just, you know, like, okay, I see what they're doin'. See what they're doing. And some things. Yeah, I think that Dr. Umar, man, for me, it kinda changed how I look at things now. Cause I said, oh. What you mean? With the content world, right?

There's niches, there's things that only certain people can do well, you know? And I think if I can polish my live show, because that was a live show, that was a sold out live show with me and him. And I think if I can polish that and do that right, I think that's something there. You know what I mean? I just think, and I saw a lot of people Adopt that you know adopt certain elements of even that conversation and reference that conversation when they speak with u more Yeah, they booked him after that like a lot of people reference that like yo, man

I saw you on and man y'all were talking about Dion and they got back in love to do an interview with him Yeah, I wouldn't even say shit, I'd just let him talk. Yeah, you'd go. I would, I would. He could literally just come on my platform and just talk. I ain't got shit to ask him. Yeah, I think I kinda, and I changed how people dealing with him now.

People are now doing a versus thing with him. And I don't really like that, cause I didn't do a, if you listen to that conversation, we really had some like, I tried to get him to explain a little more Yeah, he was right making his points, but I want to dig into that. Why is that? Why you think that? Why do you think somebody would do that? And for me, I just think it added to that

Well, you know, that's that's kind of thank you. I could see how they could be That could be frustrating I guess yeah if you had keep asking the nigga why he's like nigga don't ask me why now he definitely said now he respect he respect me too much for that though no I feel you listen you gotta think that's his fifth time coming on my show he's the only person that came that much he hit pause yeah that's a big part He hit me. Pause. Yeah, that's a big pause. That's a big pause.

Hey man, that's dope. But you know what I'm saying is there's this respect there. So he knew that, yo, I was trying to get him to explain to his audience some of those things. Like we got the next one that come out next week. Oh man. So we get intense about some things that now has come out that come out next week. And then, so we get intense about some things that now has come out that I was right about.

Because I told him that, did you see the girl that, and it'll probably be out by the time this come out, but did you see the girl that had the big knot on her face? I said, a dude asked for my number and they didn't give it to me, these black men let me get the brick later. You know, he went crazy on black men about that. You cowards, stupid mother.

But think about it. That's one off situation. She dead ass wrong for that. But this niggas out there that be actually that probably needed to hit him. And that's what he was saying. That's it. That's what he was saying.

But that's what I'm saying. You don't wanna put, you wanna be passionate about some shit that you don't even know is real or not. Yeah, I said, damn, you give grace to the black woman in this conversation. You give grace to, I said, what do you say to the black men that say you're too hard?

You don't give any grace to them, even in situations where you're wrong about this girl saying black men didn't defend her when this is an allergic reaction. Yep. And he was just like, like well I'm not gonna retract it because they need to hear that. They do. It's still a valid point but it's like when it's directed at that at one particular incident that's that's false then it just loses validity. Right and I think it's gonna do great on YouTube

because we go back and forth, we get heated. He telling me, because I'm saying, yo, white black men gotta be blamed for everything, you know? Because that's our role. To be blamed for everything? That's a role that was given to us that we would never ask for. That's just part of it. It's one of the drawbacks of being a black man.

It comes with it. We always gonna be at fault. Cause think about it. What have niggas ever done to anybody? But each other. Thank you. Niggas don't do number four. But that's abuse.

The violence is transferred. It's just a transfer of violence. That's it. Even that ain't a niggas fault. When you dealt with Netflix, what was that about? Did y'all have to audition? How do you get a deal with Netflix? How does that happen?

What do you mean a deal? How do you get a content licensing deal? What do you mean? With Netflix, like you get a content licensing deal? What do you mean? With Netflix, like I'm sure they license y'all content or did they buy that, purchase that piece of content? I guess I'm asking what happened with your Netflix situation? Man, you just, doing those live shows,

it's like if you think about what we do when we go out and we record these live shows and we put them out on the platform. Bro, we really producing and dropping a special every week. Why not link with the biggest platform that does that? It's just a natural progression. You know what I'm saying? It's like, they saw what we were doing,

they send their team out, they send some people out. Some people get on some phone calls, we get some back and forth. It's a few lunches, it's a few emails. It's a process. It ain't just like they show up with the paperwork. You get what I'm saying? It takes years to close a deal like that.

Oh, most definitely. It ain't violent. That's hot. That's serious. That's hot. We got DC in the building. Most definitely. But yeah, it takes years to make some shit like that. At least a year or two.

Just to make sure that the business is right and everybody's going to be satisfied with the terms and conditions. Things of that nature. So big shout out to the whole department over there at Netflix, man. Especially anybody that got something to do with the black people content on that app, that department, whatever department that is. Because y'all don't get enough credit. For sure, for sure.

To try to even hold that up or hold that down over there. Because they can whitewash that if they want. And for the most part. Just hearing that the people that own Fox, own Tubi, broke my heart. We're going to talk about that if they want. And for the most part. Just hearing that the people that own Fox, own Tubi, broke my heart. We gonna talk about that in a minute. It didn't all the way, but a little bit. I ain't, you know what I'm saying?

Yeah, we can get into. It's kind of like finding that chick that you've been knocking off used to talk to one of your partners. Right. Ah! I ain't no! Yeah.

You know what I mean? You gotta do background checks on people But you know um but even that is your country falling apart feeling tired depressed a little bit revolutionary Consider this start your own country. I planted the flag. I just kind of looked out of like this is mine I own this it's surprisingly easy. There's 55 gallons of water 500 pounds of concrete Everybody's doing it. I am King Ernest Emmanuel. I am the Queen of La Donia. I'm Jackson I, King of Capperburg.

I am the Supreme Leader of the Grand Republic of Montonia. Be part of a great colonial tradition. Well, why can't I trade my own country? My forefathers did that themselves. What could go wrong? No country willingly gives up their territory. I was making a racket with the black powder, you know, with explosive warheads. Oh my God.

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and do their thing though. I don't wanna say letting, but niggas over there doing their thing. Yeah, but not letting. I think they're using that as like they use us to get the wheels on it, to get the car rolling. And then in a minute, tell me, say to all a minute. Okay, this is how we can counter that We got to use that to get to the next step

We can't just let that be it then if that's the attitude behind it We need to be working on an exit strategy right now then if that's the emotion behind it. We either love it or we hate it That's the emotion behind it. We either love it or we hate it Because if we stamp it as we love it is gonna blow But if we fucking with it, it need to be said out They know how to trick us we can't allow it we can't allow guess how they trick us though incentivize us with a little paper Boy, that's how Trump got us. That's how they all get us. Trump didn't get us. What? He didn't get us. What? You think he got us? What? He got the

niggas that wanted to be got. No he got the niggas. He didn't get us. I'm talking about black people as a whole. For the most part. They're not paying close attention. He didn't get me with the passing. What if they are though? What if that's the real, what if they are paying attention? But the information don't say that. We're not collective, we don't work together about nothing. You know what I'm saying? Trump a fuck around and try to pass some shit

that sneak fuck around and actually work for the benefit of people he don't even fuck with. Of course. You get what I'm saying? Yeah. I don't know. But we just went through a lot that we need to hold on. You look at what he does as who he is,

he a crook too. Yeah, of course. Now what I'm saying, that's why I say he got us. I ain't said he did nothing that was upstanding. No, this is the thing about black people. It's a hat trick. We love a villain. And we love to feel like we win.

But, hold up, I don't want it to sound like it. I fuck with him. It's some people. We love to feel like we winning. I feel like he just, he do so much. Even if we not winning though. He do so much bad shit that. They'll drive an old Mercedes.

A nigga drive an old Mercedes for the fact that it's a Mercedes. We love to just feel like it's a win. It don't even matter, bro. So what are you saying that black people settle? No, no, I said we're easily. I drive an old Mercedes, but it's by choice. Yeah, of course.

But I'm talking about. What if it's just the one he wanted? No, no, no. I ain't talking about him. I'm talking about the guy that drives it when his money could have got him a new Reliable vehicle he could have got. That's not your call to make. It ain't my call, but it's a responsible call to make. No it's not. If he's driving that car. That's his business. But he's forcing it. He's acting like he's driving the Like I know niggas that put the keys out on they on they hang the keys out over they. Wait a minute

You overlooking something very important. Help me understand. You looking at it like an old car. The nigga who owned the car, that might be his motherfucking one. That might be the one that he want. Yeah, and I'm not talking about him though. This nigga might have millions of dollars in this like,

but you don't see me in this motherfucking 91 Cutlass? Yeah, nigga, I fuck with you. You're like a 91 Cutlass. Don't I look like a 91? I'm talking about a specific guy. I ain't talking about the guy who, so we gotta have context of our conversation. Let's back up a little bit,

because we unpacked a lot of things. We talked about two in and by five seconds Right there. We talked about to be Dr. Umar right? Oh And a few other things right shut out the doctor who got out the doctor more and whatever put some respect Oh, what I'm saying all I'm saying is all I'm is, we like to feel like we win. When I say, black people, we're slaves of symbols. No we're not.

We gotta stop thinking like that. No, this is the proof, bro. We spend all our money in the consumer market. Who believe, why? Google it, why? Cause we're slaves of symbols. We're going to get Nike, we go get Mercedes, we go get all these, we're slaves of symbols.

Even if we stop buying that shit, then what? Then we put our money back in the community, we buy houses, we buy hospitals. What does that do? That builds the community up. The money still has to be spent. But it builds our own community. It circulates through our community.

We take all the money we make and go spending on things we don't own that aren't like just bullshit This owned by other people. So what I'm saying is we're slaves to the consumer market and symbolisms I don't believe it. Tell me how give me a give me something is some indicator that says we're not because there is no we They spend the millions of dollars on weave every every year black women do this day business Of course, that's their business, but I'm telling you that they don't need weave, they buy, this is fake hair, horse hair, some bullshit.

That's what they want. Of course, but I'm- It's free will. You ain't listening to me. Yes I am. Okay, so I'm saying we're slaves to the consumer market. No we not. Why are we spending our money in the way we do?

Because we live in a capitalistic society. If you don't spend it, it's worthless. Why do we spend it in the way that we do? Because niggas buy, the same way you do. Look at you. A nigga gonna watch this and say, man, Loon got four chains on. That's what I'm saying. Why you do that?

Why you ain't invest that in the black community? No, I've invested. You can't be a hypocrite on the platform. I ain't a hypocrite. Yes, you are. But you just said, we we slaves and you want to ball all them trains. If I was a hypocrite I'd say y'all. You said we. That mean I'm not a hypocrite. Well that's what I'm saying. Everybody's not. See that? But what I'm saying is. If I say we that mean I'm not a hypocrite. If I say y'all that mean I'm separating from y'all. I'm saying we I

got a Mercedes. I'm a slave to this same shit I wear the shit I those are choices that you made you could have easily not made them choice of course you gonna fuck some of this money off that's what I'm telling you well why are you yelling at them but what I'm when you saying we are slaves people go ahead and what the fuck is you talking about no they're not claiming that anybody that hears that that and says that, they're wastemen. What? Wastemen.

No, we don't use those terms in America. We in America right now. Wastemen? Yeah. I'm listening to Drake, bro. I don't listen to, do I look like I listen to Drake? We don't say that shit in America. Do I look like I listen to Drake?

He's a wasteman. You mean the nigga work for the garbage company? No, we don't. He's a wasteman. Okay. That's my for the garbage company? No, we don't. He's a wasteman. That's my word. But what I'm saying is there is no way to universally speak for all black people. Who said that?

I'm talking about spending habits. They spend a billion dollars on weed. I think you got a phone or Google? Yeah. You need to spend some time on it. Because I'm telling you, if I'm going by the numbers you disregard We can't keep using the same arguments for the last 30 years Who is I ain't never said this rock made a whole movie called good hand said that I know it's a that is a

Billion trillion dollars. I never whatever black women spent on they have do you understand that white people outnumber black people in America? Like six or six to thirteen or one or some shit, we wave fuck, we're a fucking minority. Just the fuck they do. Not in the way that black people do. Yes they do. If they outnumber us by that many, that means that it's fucking.

You think that white women buy more. 10 times more white women in America buying weave than black women. Yes, I believe that. You saying pure by numbers of people. We're saying. Yes, by volume alone. We are still in last place.

That's not what we talking about. What we talking about? We talking about, you know. Okay, let's play the devil's advocate long. What would happen if black women stopped spending money on weed? What would happen? Well nothing if they have no direction with what to do.

And if us as black men don't accept them with their natural hair. Okay so if black men stop buying. So this is an overall problem again we are slaves. This is okay. This is free will. Yeah but a lot of dudes want to see they want me with the state on wanna with the natural hair. They'll tell her go get a hair done. We can't ignore this. What are you doing? Are you playing some game? Were you ignoring these things? No, I just think that these arguments are dated. None of that shit would change anything about the structure of America. Not without any direction. Even with direction, people still gonna do what the fuck they want to do and buy what they want to buy? It's already hard enough to be a nigga in America.

Ain't nobody finna not fuckin' try to make the most of it. You certain shit you gonna have to buy to try to increase your quality of life. They have done such a number on black people that we buy this shit to try to hide and mask the insecurities that they gave us. Damn, that nigga just told me I can't speak for black people. I'm not saying you can't, but you can.

You just, what you just done, you just told me, that nigga just said, All I'm saying is. We doing this because we been through hell and just told me I can't speak for black people. Ain't that a bit. All I'm saying is. Ain't that hot life. There is a reason for everything. You got to listen, if you don't listen you get lost.

There's a reason for everything don't listen you get lost It's a reason don't listen you get lost you literally argued me for seven to ten minutes Okay, then I can't speak for black people and proceeded to say when you make us when you make an outrageous statement like what? We say he has some facts from like we slave we slave to symbols don't we not slaves to nothing We're not slaves to nothing. Man, that's. We not slaves to shit. That's weird. How? That's weird, baby.

Man, you must don't know the intensity of what slavery actually is. I ain't a slave to a motherfucking thing. We spend our money like, I say this, let's rephrase that. We spend our money like we're slaves to symbolism. Bro, that's because we live in a capitalistic society if we live somewhere where money didn't where love was the currency We would be out here loving the fuck out each other who says love isn't the currency not in this country Who says that the people who founded this country on capitalism says that once you you don't people live

You know as a nigga who been in the streets, but there as a nigga who in media, you don't mix love and money. I don't, but there's people living in this country that is love based. You know why? You're speaking for the whole country. You told me I can't speak for black people. No, I'm speaking for my little one. I can't speak for black people. My little one 66 million. The same way that I'm sitting here saying shit,

there is nothing we can say that can universally apply to all black people. That's what I'm trying to tell you. So especially for the whole country. Right. You see, and so for you to say in the country, this country ain't got no love. It's like, bro, it's some people in this country right now

don't care about no Mercedes, they don't give a fuck about a name brand, they don't care about a lifestyle or nothing. It's people living in the woods. You know why? Why? Because they can't afford that shit. You have to act like you don't want to.

It's people going on Joe Rogan podcasts all the time, there's millionaires that live in the woods just cause. Think of how many people who go in there who just comedians who doing gig to gig though They're going on there hoping to be millionaires back But we live in the type of society where you need money to live Fucking get the full experience of this shit Yeah

we lived in somewhere where we had to go out and find our own food and be entertained by the people who we live around and live in a community and be around people and like I said love was the currency and we didn't have to worry about how much money we had in the bank and shit like that and we were outside with it for real then we it would be another something else but we live in America do you think this Netflix try to does Netflix own that content are y'all own it? What content? That y'all did for them, did they pay y'all for it or did they? No, it's a different situation.

We produced it and worked with a production company and once they put it on the platform they gon' have it on there for however long they gon' have it on there and then it is what it is. So will it be on the 85 app? I guess is my question at some point. I don't know. I don't know. Maybe. That's interesting though. Maybe. That's something to look into. I mean I guess that's a piece of content if they know. No but it's not like it's not. Not to duck the question like we own some of it but of course they're not gonna let us own all of it And I mean it ain't one of them type of say they they're interested in owning the content that's on their platform They're playing a different game

But see we played a different game too because it's like you have to use that leverage to get in the game They're always gonna get you on that's why they they come and give Chappelle 40 million because they're saying, listen, we wanna own this. We don't wanna play the game where you own it and we wanna give you 40 and we want it. Is that okay? Do you believe that? That's what their best was being reported. And he don't care about heart.

Who would report that? Think about how this shit work. Netflix? Why would they go and tell somebody the details of a contract that they got with Dave's because I guess they want to they Want to level the market for people like you? Why would they want to do that because they don't want you to be unreasonable and think it's a 40 million dollar number on a Comic without it being ownership on their side

Why would you why what would make you think they would give just give Dave Chappelle all this money? I Believe Dave Chappelle would be worth $40 million. What do you mean worth? For three specials. What do you mean worth? You said what would make me think they would give him the money that speaks to his worth. They don't give nobody shit.

That's what I'm trying to get you to understand. Nothing in this business is given. They didn't give Dave Chappelle this money They know how much money that he is gonna generate. Yeah, but that's you know how much They can say hey Loon. We love your your podcast We would love to sign you to Netflix and give you a special We know that you generate money. We know that we can go sell 500 million dollars worth of ads against you coming to our platform.

That's why you get these numbers. They don't just pull numbers out the ad. You think I don't know that and I got deals everywhere? No, but the way that you say it, you're going to mislead people and make them think that they just- Tell me what I said that I mislead. That they gave that man that money? Nah, come on, man.

They know what I'm talking They don't give nobody shit you think that yeah I'm talking about why they came and offered him 40 million dollars anybody that's below that standard don't watch this show People watching this show know when I say Netflix gave Dave Chappelle 40 million They just ain't nobody nice in this world. We ain't talking like that. We talking about business But you gotta understand that that ain't we don't even know if that's the number Whatever the number is we know they're interested in owning the content on that platform because I hear comics time and time again Speak to that big comics speak to yo The reason why the front end is so much is because they're interested in owning it and not showing the numbers

Not even giving you real data as to what it done. They'll tell you something But that's the thing about it. I'll be trying to get you to think get out of this mindset They don't have to give you shit if you ain't been with somebody They don't got to show you the number if you they go show they know you is dig good It's number six on The little thing of the like I'm talking about, you know, what you may be you wait a minute I'm the business side. I'm talking about hard numbers That's what I'm trying to get you to understand bro. Listen to this move

I'm talking about hard numbers demographics and things Fuck the numbers. That's what dude you not listening. Yeah, I'm never saying fuck the numbers Fuck the numbers cuz watch this watch this if I'm Netflix. I'm never saying fuck the numbers. Fuck the numbers, cause watch this, watch this. If I'm Netflix, it's my platform. Do you understand I can put any fucking thing I want to in the one, two, three, four, five, six? That's what I'm saying. So you as a consumer, you gonna watch this shit. Not a consumer.

I'm saying as somebody watching my platform, if I put 85 South in number six, and that shit ain't even came out yet. It's the first day They're gonna think this shit got some big numbers behind it ain't gonna do what I'm saying You just said I said the hard numbers the demographics behind the scenes. Okay, when someone there's value to every viewer There's an ad company that wants to sell something to every person that clicks on the 85 South Podcast, Netflix show. You're looking at it in a small scope.

I'm looking at how Netflix is looking at it. They're selling that data, bro. Wait a minute. Netflix, the whole company. Everybody's selling data around here, bro. Wait a minute. I'm trying to get you to not even understand what Netflix is. It's the Netflix.

This is where you watch all the movies at right? Yeah, you think that? It's just they got one Netflix deal. Do you understand they got ads against every movie on this motherfucker? That's the whole point I'm making. This is a trillion dollar company. Of course. So I'm telling you that but take in mind with it being a trillion dollar company Every number counts counts that's why on YouTube and things you can't have fake views and certain things because they'll they audited this because they're selling ads against it so what happens is Netflix is taking that hard data that they're telling you is useless

and it's unfortunate that you were this high in the business and thinking this date is useless when this data is so important. You look, you not even hearing what I'm saying. I'm listening, go ahead. You not hearing what I'm saying. How many motherfuckers have a Netflix account, first of all? Plenty, everybody. Do you think they give a fuck what you watching on there

or they want you to have this account? Who? The company. Hell yeah. You think they give a fuck what you watch. They don't. Fucking right I do. You can have a Netflix account and never watch nothing. You don't watch Netflix every day. I think there's extreme value in what is actually being watched on Netflix. I 100% think that the value of Netflix lives in the people

that are actually watching. I do think the subscription amount water in the mouth Because if they gave a fuck if you watch it or not, this shit will be free. No, it's not free This shit is $20 right month $25 a month Yeah, and then dead every month from a billion perspective So what I'm telling you is it's a game being played there They have a subscription model what people are paying the $20 a month But if you're telling me that you think that the actual viewership of a company like Netflix is null and void That's absurd, bro Okay, all I'm saying is they sell ads against the viewership of that company against the click-through rate They don't sell ads just on based on who's

Signed up they sell ads versus the click through rate. All right, Loon. It's way more complicated than that. Okay, tell me, because I'm in it. Tell me. I know you in it too. I don't have time. We would be here all day if we had to try to break down

how these people make all this money off of this shit. They don't give a fuck if you watch this shit or not. Honestly. The numbers matter to motherfuckers who give a fuck about numbers. The ad revenue. The people who trying to buy some space. You know it's different right? And that's what I'm saying. You should know this. And that's only a one. That's the difference between subscription revenue and ad revenue, right? Bro, even without all that, they still straight. Yeah, but as a business you have to sit down like you have people in your offices sitting down trying to figure out how to amplify your app, how to amplify your content, how to amplify your comedy on all different levels and

you're telling me that these these sections of the business don't matter I'm telling you the viewership is where they sell the ads against the same way that you guys do with your YouTube 85 South and with your Your audio with black effect you sell ads against that audio in that video. No, man Do you not understand how the fucking world is working right now? Yeah Netflix is just like Google for fucking movies. They got every movie in the motherfucking world every movie You could think I would argue damn It without with the exceptions of certain move I would argue you but if you get a brand new Netflix account at your new house and you watch one fucking movie

Do you not know that they have enough information about you to put all the shit that you might possibly in your lifetime Why you have this right watch if you come over my house and I've been watching Rambo and all this other shit, it's gonna be some shit on my Netflix that you don't even know how to get to on your Netflix. Do you not understand that we are literally in the fucking matrix? No, I get that. Netflix, they don't give a fuck if you watch it or not. If you don't have it, you're not going to be able to watch shit at this point. That's it. That's all I'm saying. And for you to say, oh no, it's not just like, hey, it's not Walmart where you just walk in and they got shit.

These motherfuckers get money off owning the site, subscriptions, the motherfuckers, they know who watched this shit on TV, who watched this shit on their phone, who got it on their computer, on their iPad. But this shit is one of the biggest fucking companies in the world. So what I'm saying is, we don't even understand

the scope of this shit. Like this is it. Like this motherfucker is huge. It's that. That is the new way that we gonna have to watch movies from here on out. So they don't give a fuck about it. They snuck that extra tier in with the ads.

And so that's the thing. That's another generation of revenue. So they have a tier where tier in with the ads. And so that's the thing, that's another generation of revenue. So they have a tier where you can have no ads. They have a tier where you can go, you know, just to see. Let me show you how good they are at business. You actually believe that they losing money? Of course not. That's all I'm saying.

Of course not. You said that they in the red every quarter. Yeah, but I'm telling you, because they playing this subscription game, where when the money come in, they put it back out on content because they wanna own everything that's on their platform. So they spend the most.

Why you think they stole comedy from HBO? First, it was everything they have for HBO special. That is absurd. That is absurd. You don't think that they bullied the market and took comedy from HBO by offering comics absurd amounts of money? No.

Comedy Center and HBO, they took it from them? No. Okay, what's your argument against that? Cause I'm a comedian. Okay, so tell me. Do you know that HBO can come and give me a deal right now and it still be the shit? I can have a HBO special still.

HBO ain't went no fucking way. No, right now I can argue, I believe that now. But for a moment, Netflix stole the market from them, bro. They took every comic and gave them high amounts of money to do specials on Netflix, bro. They turned it damn near into a comedian platform. I feel like I'm arguing with my uncle at the house on Thanksgiving. Had enough of this country? Ever dreamt about starting your own? I planted the flag. This is mine. I own this. It's surprisingly easy. 55 gallons

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