The Breakfast Club - It's Up There: with Charleston White pt 1

Episode Date: September 15, 2025

The Black Effect Presents... It's Up There!  Charleston White says the feds work at No Jumper, reveals why Big U missed Nipsey Hussle's funeral, calls out Wack 100 beef, and addresses 1090 Jake drama in this explosive sit-down. Charleston doesn't hold back as he breaks down federal infiltration of hip hop media, the real street politics behind Wack 100's moves, and the tension that kept Big U from Nipsey's service. He also takes aim at 1090 Jake for paperwork games and so-called snitch hunting, exposing hypocrisy in YouTube clout chasing. Watch as Charleston White tells the raw truth about LA gangs, Rolling 60s, and why so many street legends fell out. He dives into how No Jumper is allegedly used to surveil rap culture, why Wack 100 avoids real accountability, and the untold story of Big U and Nipsey Hussle's complicated history. Charleston also explains how content clippers, YouTube strikes, and viral videos shaped his brand. This conversation is for anyone who wants the real story behind hip hop beefs, street codes, and the modern internet hustle. Drop your thoughts in the comments: Do you think the feds really work at No Jumper? Was Wack 100 ducking real street energy? Was Big U wrong for skipping Nipsey’s funeral? And does 1090 Jake deserve the backlash? 🔥 Watch the full interview now. 🎙️ Subscribe for more unfiltered hip hop commentary and exclusive interviews. #CharlestonWhite #NoJumper #Wack100 #BigU #NipseyHussle #1090Jake #ItsUpTherePodcast #HipHopPodcast #StreetCulture (00:00) - Charleston's early life and institutionalization (03:27) - Childhood trauma and private tutoring (06:15) - Experiences with betrayal and trust (09:42) - Learning the streets and gang culture (12:55) - Nine months in isolation as a child (16:21) - Education from private tutors and self-learning (19:36) - Infiltrating the police department (22:49) - Building relationships with law enforcement (25:17) - Self-sustainability and community funding (28:33) - Understanding nonprofit systems and grants (32:08) - Internet fame and content creation journey (35:44) - Making $16,000 per month on YouTube (38:59) - Channel termination and learning from mistakes (42:13) - The role of content clippers and viral spread (45:28) - Understanding the algorithm and engagement (48:51) - Dealing with fake pages and scammers (51:37) - Street culture and navigating conflicts (54:15) - Overcoming trauma from the drug game (57:42) - Post-traumatic stress and trust issues (01:00:56) - Working with government officials (01:03:29) - Transitioning from activist to internet personality (01:06:33) - Building community programs and youth work (01:09:48) - Understanding public safety funding systems (01:12:51) - Philosophical outlook on walking among the people (01:15:19) - Comparing past and present black leaders (01:18:04) - Learning from failure and street wisdom (01:21:37) - The importance of self-education and reading (01:24:22) - Building authentic relationships in the community (01:27:15) - Charleston's approach to content creation strategy (01:30:08) - Views on internet personas vs. real identity (01:32:45) - Navigating law enforcement interactions (01:35:33) - The psychological impact of institutional life (01:38:16) - Closing thoughts and life lessons Join Our Its Up There Podcast Clip Channel now https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCEh6Wk40kcNcMJ4t_jtmluw Discord https://discord.gg/GJKXMWQS For all exclusive interviews & more content not here click here https://www.patreon.com/itsuptherepodcast 🚨Unreleased Interviews https://www.patreon.com/itsuptherepodcast 🦺All Merch Options teespring.com/its-up-there-podcast-merch 🎧LISTEN ON SPOTIFY: https://open.spotify.com/show/4Jheeb8FxYVDRo8khyrz36?si=e339dD2JRte2MYX2Uon3BQ 👀 SUBSCRIBE HERE:https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCl_GorAVekpEVDlk1Yc8giw 👂 LISTEN ON APPLE PODCASTS: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/its-up-there-podcast/id1317524092?uo=4 👣FOLLOW ITS UP THERE PODCAST HOST : INSTAGRAM | fogfo_looney TIKTOK | https://www.tiktok.com/@fogfo_looney PATREON| https://www.patreon.com/itsuptherepodcast SUBSCRIBE TO Youtube Channel ➡️ https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCl_GorAVekpEVDlk1Yc8giw WATCH MORE ➡️ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JwNIuOcAtoo&list=PLnwwxLxHiDWayq4HPgNYUtsAGvqe3liOO Feat Charleston White - Charleston White Exposes Feds Work at No Jumper, Why Big U Missed Nipsey Funeral, Wack 100 Dodging , 1090 JakeYouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@BreakfastClubPower1051FMSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcast. Ain't nobody stood before the world and total Crips and Bloods, fuck y'all. And not only did that, I said, Raymond Washington then took you. Not only that, I said, f***in' hip's your hustle too. His mama. So they was trying to take my gun license from me,

but they couldn't. So no judge would deem me of a mincing the unstable. It was my rhetoric. So they're going off my internet rhetoric, homest. So that's why I tell you, you better be careful what you say. Like most people get into this life and can't take the costume off

so to get stuck on stage. Yes, Lord. Nip got stuck on stage. Nip ain't on the sideline talking to these Jewish billionaire and millionaire investors. They're talking to Irma's. When he was going down to talk to the police department to create this new gang incentive program, get the 60s mad at Irmiss for doing this in the name of Nip. 60s wasn't happy with Nip.

With that ideology, I would say that they wouldn't have let Wack 100 and them move around as much as they was. Wack 100, don't move around. If you go into jail, you go up there and fuck with Wack 100. Those that no, no. They know the Fed's in now. Yeah. Nah, we know they look. He said the Fed came and got me and asked me about to him.

Everybody in the winter or they went to. The Fed's in now. They ain't watching. They're in now. What do you think about Larry Hoover being pardoned by President Trump? It's been in the making for a minute. But to him, in his mind, he's free now. If he never come home, we don't know what it's like to be locked in a bathroom.

We're 44 decades. Man, he'd never seen his son in four decades. He ain't been hugged. He ain't been touched. He can shake a hand. He can talk. talk to somebody, he can walk around a yard with a gate in it and feel like

he in the ocean. 10.90, Jake. I hate him. I hate him. Why he don't say nothing about the Mexican cartel, they tell. There's plenty of paperwork on who's been told long about the Mexican plug. Yeah. Because he knows them cartel in Michigan. There's some consequences repercussions. It ain't no consequences

and repercussion to f*** with the pigeon. I can't say this. There should be a call of action to do something, man. Look, they say the sky's the limit, and I'm going farther than that She keeps blowing on my phone so I called her mama come get your daughter back They just want a little bit of fame get them boys wake Wipe a little one eye, what's your brain but I get a hard hat

They say the sky's the limit I'm going far though They can try to but can't kill me I'm immortal I just bought a nigga life asking did a side come with that order You lazy the reason you broke you don't know how to hustle Don't try me they know I'm a stress son Look red run Red die Hit the block one twillies

As him for a billy Cause he never felt one Stick him to the wild It's a nail gun Rhying with my dolls Trying to nail something I sit down on you And he got your

You know the vibes I'm your active and attractive host Or another episode Of the fastest growing podcast On the market right now Man you know the vibes I got one of them Nibers in here today man

You know I got a guy Who has took the internet By storm transition and all kind of business ventures this dude has elevated this brand in ways that only a few people and I'm talking one hand have been able to do

I got Charleston White man I was gone yeah yeah man which one of my cameras so they don't think I'm drunk yeah yeah yeah now man you know Charleston White the son or Rat William to some others

Uncle Rutgers to many to a lot of young people America's favorite uncle Yes Lord You've been killing You got all the uncle Yeah for sure

You've been smoking this thing Or yours man I've seen you out at Silver Sand Shut out Silver Sand Yeah man sat out the Silver Sand Staple in the time Yeah yeah And you know it was a line out the door

When we pulled up It was plenty of cars So I knew that was the chosen spot Right right What I think I want to ask you What makes you Want to make yourself That accessible when you come

into cities or in the ghetto because that's the ghetto right what makes you what makes you disregard some of the prior things that has happened like when we talk about nipsy when we talk about some of these people that run into unforeseen circumstance my wisdom a lot of people can say my wisdom won't allow me to do it in in in in in chicago or new york well not new york because i don't been to brownsville brooklyn to the bottom bottom in new york but but california in Chicago, I wouldn't do this even though I have done it. Right.

So I wouldn't openly go live because I know the gang cultures supersede morals, humanity and privilege. Yeah. So what will make me do it, homie, is all of our heroes, all of our great black leaders

before us, from Ali to Richard Pryor, they have always been able to walk amongst the people. They didn't need security because they was loved amongst the people it wasn't into the rap got into the rap industry

that they started dying amongst their people but prior to that That makes sense Prior to that, entertainers didn't die amongst their people was loved even now Michael Jackson couldn't do it but sometimes he did

Michael Jackson went to the hospital he walked amongst of people and caused the hysteria But niggil Ali was the greatest and he walked his kid to school Yeah Yeah

So I'll never want to get too far From my people Why I can't do what I did today Yeah you know with me bro And I was talking to him about this My camera guys that Because I Anybody got to ask Trey for me

Before I spark up Yeah yeah yeah I ain't one of them Dump ashes on the floor You show right I got one right here Yeah yeah I got one

but but i think because of what i've been through bro like the dope game i think it ruined me it ruined my it warped my reality post-traumatic if you sold dope and you did it for a long time uh you got some post-traumatic stress disorder from nothing else paranoid schizophrenia yeah yeah you distrustful yeah in your sleep patterns up yeah uh even though you change your life Oh, there's still some residue. That's a whole fact. Still some residue. And that's what I think, that's what, because for me, it's like,

because I can have a hundred up here, I can go in, you know what I'm saying? But it just won't, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, told on me around here, send me the, you know what I'm saying? So it's like, and this was a dude I helped for nine years. So when I, when I got, when I went through that, it broke me in a way, bro. I still ain't repaired that. Betrayal is something, homie that damage and scars people's hearts forever

and some people never recover. It takes a certain type of person that can mend the wound of betrayal and still intimately trust again. Right. That's with his woman. So a lot of people get up because they've been betrayed by somebody

that woman take the brunt of it. That's a whole fact. She can't get the fullness and the wholeness of him he's distrustful because what somebody else did. Yeah. Yeah. Did you come? So before you got into this, what was Charleston White doing?

I know you was an activist. We've talked before. And also for people who don't know, me and Charles, I really had the first Charleston White real viral interview. Yeah, yeah. So, so, so. So, you was one of the people, homie, that. you displayed journalistic characteristics and traits way back then

well you got here right this was on the facebook interview uh in the car i drove park somewhere talk cut the light on uh but you was really trying to highlight the man and not the character yes you really got the backstory the whole thing you got the whole backstory how you get here how you become why this but why they you capture the whole story, but the internet wasn't interested in it. Right. You brought it back years later and they came into. Yeah, yeah, they came interested.

But see, also, I was so hung up on making sure the quality was so right and I was in the, I was in the, it was both us was just starred. And I was in the little room, you know what I'm saying? You was in the car, but you was kicking all that shit that done got millions and millions of views at this point. You were kicking that on my shit way back then. So you've always been. So I'm not... So I was big on Facebook then. Right.

Yeah, yeah. Homest, so you was on your way to go get a deal. I hadn't even really got on Instagram yet. Right. I was just big on Facebook. Yeah, but it was so potent that N-S was taking it to Instagram.

That's how you know you really got some. They were taking into YouTube. They were getting paid off YouTube. I had no idea you could get paid off the shit I was saying. So it was almost two years went about people making money off my videos I was doing off Facebook before I even realized you can get paid.

Do you realize that? Do you realize that? You were stepping on your clippers. You really had clippers back then, but you were stepping on them. You were getting, I'd be reading, take my shit out of y'all bitch at, reposting my shit.

Then was your clippers. It took me a while to realize. Yeah. Hom, but, man, I ain't know. I'm trying to learn. But what can you learn? Yeah.

You're asking people this. They're acting like they know you paying them. You know, you're locals. They're talking like, man, I can do this. So, okay, then they're saying what I'm doing wrong. Okay. what I need to do right then everybody's saying what I'm doing wrong

nobody could tell me what to do right so I learned how to do right from doing wrong like most kids who come from our community right right right I learned how to do what's right on the internet by doing everything wrong yeah losing shit would nobody teach me so it was trial and error so I'm bashing them

until somebody said they're marketing and promoting they're marketing advertised these are commercials they're your billboy I'm striking them so I pulled back But I spent a year striking here Man you were striking man I remember you go down there

You was on there You would go live and go to striking them nigger This man This sitting one on me Muffalo to lose the channels Muffin to pay me And I'll pay you to pay me And I'm saying

You still in my shit I ain't understand But you That was clippers That's what them streaming Right now That was the first clippers That I seen

But yours was clippers Because your shit was so potent The Aiden Ross and the Neons and the Kassanet and them They got clippers some of them they're paying But also they got a large fan base Your fan base at the time wasn't even that large As large as it is now But it was so potent

That they were waving your flag They're on YouTube waving your flag Title in a different way King Cash's King Cassius at that time had like 2,300,000 followers He was daily getting 7,800,000 views off the

shit I was doing on Facebook. I got his channel took down. But I ain't knowing at the time. It took me four to five years to realize this is how you conquer the algorithm. Exactly. You're clippers. Exactly.

You need these people. You can't do this by yourself. You can't do it, bro. You think you're doing it by yourself. It's all these people who've been taking your shit. It took me four, five years to realize that. Now, I ain't never got to go lie. That's why I hardly go lie now.

I'm saying. I just go make a video somewhere. My clip is going to take it, and me it's going to go to Twitter. So, yeah. So what that does is they help me sell concert tickets. They help me sell merchandise or they give me book for interview. I ain't got a monetize over there. Y'all have it.

Y'all have it. And here's another trick. So Nav Green was going through that. Run a business and not thinking about podcasting, think again. More Americans listen to podcasts than ad-supported streaming music from Spotify and Pandora. And as the number one podcaster, Ihearts twice as large as the next two combined. So whatever your customers listen to, they'll hear your message. Plus, only IHeart can extend your message to audiences across broadcast radio.

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I'm from a very rural background myself. My dad is a farmer, and my mom is a cousin. What do you get when a true crime producer walks into a comedy club? I know it sounds like the start of a bad joke, but that really was my reality nine years ago. I just normally do straight stand-up, but this is a bit different. On stage stood a comedian with a story that no one expected to hear. On 22nd of July 2015, a 23-year-old man had killed his family. And then he came to my house.

So what do you get when a true crime producer walks into a comedy club? A new podcast called Wisecrack, where stand-up comedy and murder takes center stage. Available now. Listen to Wisecrack on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Hunter, host of Hunting for Answers on the Black Effect Podcasts. Network. Join me every weekday as I share bite-sized stories of missing and murdered black women and

girls in America. There are several ways we can all do better at protecting black women. My contribution is shining a light on our missing sisters and amplifying their disregarded stories. Stories like Tamika Anderson. As she drove toward Galvez, she was in contact with several people talking on the phone as she made her way to what should have been a routine transaction. But Tamika never bought the car and she never returned home that day. One podcast, one mission, save our girls. Join the searches we explore the chilling cases of missing and murdered black women and girls. Listen to hunting for answers every weekday on the Black Effect Podcast Network, IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts,

or wherever you get your podcast. Nav is one of my partners too. You know, he do this thing called not night shift, but supervisor. What is that shit, Nav Green do? Well, he act like the shift leader. Yeah. He do the shift lead at the like Burger King, McDonald's shit.

It's a little skits. So a young guy from Memphis had turned him up on TikTok. Millions and millions of views. So Nav Green had. his team reach out to him and the was ignoring him because he thinking they're going to run it like you running they're going to try to take me down so he ignoring

him. Nav Green them just had to send him a blind DM like bro we ain't trying to take you down just cut us in 20% that of anything just throw us something because we're shooting this content it costing us money so they made a deal that shoot him some money dudes still run their page millions

of views. It's it's a it's a channel on TikTok boss of Young boss something on TikTok. T.L. Young boss? He'd do millions of Charleston White. Yeah.

I started beefing with him, homie. I would really, but but I didn't realize at the time, I'm thinking, man, stealing my content. He's making me a worldwide brand. I'm looking at the fact

that he getting all these millions of you I'm realizing that he's making some money. Yeah. He's making you a worldwide brand and you ain't paying him. Yes, sir. And all he's doing is just, just taking your real-life street star video.

Yeah. So, so, I think I spent a year of squabbling with him. I look at TikTok one day. I got over 2 billion hashtag Charleston whites. That's just hashtag Charleston White. I told William them, man. I said that nibillions of view just on TikTok. I got another 22 million hashtag Charleston White misspelled with after E,

C-H-A-R-L-S-T-O-N. I got another 40 million in Charleston White memes. When I added up, I'm in $3 billion. I left him alone because he's a, he's like a billboard for him. But it ain't nobody teaching you this, then you think they're stealing your content. But they're really working for you and they find their only way to pay themselves. Right. And you ain't got to pay them.

So now I let them have it. So all the fake pages, that's why you can't find me because I let the fake pages. Now, some fake page is scamming. I can't stop that. But if you know me, you know I like to go live. Those are billboards for me. Those are big, I don't have to pay no clippers. So I let them make their money, homie.

But it took me years to understand that. In a broke and angry. Yeah. So he's trying to get everything he can get. Broke and he angry. Yeah, yeah. Trying to take that shit down. But see, get what?

This you're talking about, the page you're talking about. See, you've birthed a lot of shit, man. unbeknownst to you right like with the t l young boss individual they've now took the platform that they've built off your back and now they're charging brands to yo we'll do collab posts with you we'll edit your shit we'll do that so real life street stars pay them now now they pay them now they pay them because they built it off of what you had going on and had this big audience sitting there so it's like i say it's one hand watch the other both watch the face You got to know that.

So, I shouldn't have been attacking them. I should have been collaborating. Yeah, yeah, I should have been. But I was reflecting what was being at me. Because I was being attacked every day at the time. At the time, I was under attack every day, all day, every day, everyday confidence. You were squabbling. So every day all day.

And all contenders. And I was attacking back. So, yeah, I had to get out of attack mode. But I'm just reflecting what was before me. It wasn't until I started traveling and going places and start seeing love. That's when the stop attacking. It's just like them dogs that they had Michael Vick, them fighting dogs. They want some biting dogs.

Yeah. But when you take them out there fighting environment, start patting on them and loving on them, once I start getting the love I start biting. Right. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. But see, I think that's why you transition right in the stream and so well as well is because not only are you a brand, you funny,

you got your fan base and audience, but you also come with a lot of the attributes that they have, meaning the clippers. Yeah. The ones that take the shit and gone do it themselves. Eight of them got that shit. Kyle, all them got that shit too, but you got to be a certain level

to have it everybody don't get that from my understanding Aiden and Kik the ones that they have agreements with home they pay over a million dollars a month for certain people's

Yeah I seen the neon They said that Kyle paid good Neon them pay good So you know that's That's somebody that watched them every day though And that mean you're watching The whole sell my hours

Yeah Very few people got that kind of commitment And dedication So they deserve something At the time of the night That they do it Yeah. So, you know what I'm saying?

So, of course, of course they deserve something. I used to be disappointing with the people around me because they wouldn't capture this in clip what they see in real time. Yes. Hum, I got a partner, me and want to Ralo and thug them people. My man, he locked up right now. Oh, man, my dog traveled around the country with me. But he never pulled out the camera to capture this inside.

how you're in the room with people. If you're nothing, they'll shake their hand in the same number. So there's people, homie, who've been with me and they weren't nothing but errand boys and publicists, but because they was in this position, they got some of the phone numbers. Now they're managing some of the biggest internet names that did y'all know today.

That's why I don't have people with me, man, it's because I don't got no, you got to be worth something. You got to be doing something around me. That's how Woody manager. You know, she used to be my publicist. Oh, yeah, show did. I talked to her before on your behalf.

That's how she got wood. I used to work with Charles and do this But she had all the contact list So if you notice That's why he doesn't been on the dance On all these So she just backed old The dog list

Just got the numbers Why she was with you And double back with him Yeah So you know So I would be mad And my partner God damn

Yeah Did nobody get no pictures Yeah Damn I've been talking to One of the biggest In the world For 20 minutes Y'all didn't get no picture

No name But you got a live video though Right monetizing on your own You don't own that. You didn't gave it to them. What about that? And you ain't sent me none.

Oh, y'all, y'all, I've been around. Ain't nobody captured. If it ain't documented, we ain't got this. But other people go have it. Mm-hmm. I'd be frustrated with my people, homie. So when I learned the game, I changed the internet game. You know, I made it possible where I can get $5,000 and $10,000 for an interview.

No. Well, nobody getting paid back there. Get what? You show did, bro. A lot of people say you f*** game up with that. Oh. Because everybody wanted to show. share that number when they about

and then they were pimping on it and then they were pimping on the when they were good so just think about homie they were getting paid homie I used to wonder how how to little go yayo nym and all the young rapids and soldier boy them used to have all their goddamn money they wasn't selling dope

soldier boy was the first where you can get paid off the internet he don't want to got all these other little drill rapper he didn't he went to show them how to eat off so then they were getting YouTube checks when YouTube was laxed with the money They were paying good. You could cuss, you can show guns.

The niggins were getting paid like a month. And then you're a little niggum making down to 30, 40,000 a month. By the time the pandemic come, now they're tightening it up. So now they're seeing more people starting to create content. So by the time the pandemic comes, they're implementing some new rules, some new restrictions to make it harder to get a little bit more money. Right. Here I come along.

I don't know the community guidelines. I don't know that they pay more money for pre-recorded video. Then they do live. Yes. I'm going live every day. My YouTube impressions is in the 100 million. Yeah. Meaning I got 10,000 people, 10,000 people watching me for two hours,

and they watch the whole two hours. So that's when I learn about impressions. Those are your impressions. Yes. Your engagements is the comments. Yes. This is an I-Heart podcast. Run a business and not thinking about podcasting, think again.

More Americans listen to podcasts, then adds supported streaming music from Spotify and Pandora. And as the number one podcaster, IHearts twice as large as the next two combined. Learn how podcasting can help your business. Call 844-844-I-Hart. When news broke earlier this year that Baby KJ, a newborn in Philadelphia, had successfully received the world's first personalized gene editing treatment, it represented a milestone for both researchers and patients. But there's a gripping tale of discovery behind this accomplishment and its creators.

I'm Evan Ratliff, and together with biographer Walter Isaacson, we're delving into the story of Nobel Prize winner Jennifer Doudna, the woman who's helped change the trajectory of humanity. Listen to Aunt CRISPR, the story of Jennifer Doudna with Walter Isaacson on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I just normally do straight stand-up, but this is a bit different. What do you get when a true crime producer walks into a comedy club? Answer, a new podcast called Wisecrack,

where a comedian finds himself at the center of a chilling true crime story. Does anyone know what show that's a show that? come to see. It's a story. It's about the scariest night of my life. This is Wisecrack, available now. Listen to Wisecrack on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Short on time, but big on true crime. On a recent episode of the podcast, hunting for answers, I highlighted the story of 19-year-old Lechay Dungey. But she never knocked on that door, she never made it inside. And that text message, would be the last time anyone would ever hear from her.

Listen to hunting for answers from the Black Effect Podcast Network on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Likes, shares. The views is important. It's that other shit. There you go. So that has something to do with the CPNs on how much they pay. Changes.

There you go. So here I am, I'm breaking all the rules with everything on the check. box to say you're supposed to make the money I'm making $16,000 a month breaking all the rules I remember that And I'm showing everybody what I'm making Yeah

That's where I f*** up it Because who ain't making this following the rules They don't put a team together I need all my followers to start striking these pages So I got all these different hitting at me

And I don't know the rules And you don't violate it all the rules So now they're going back in your catalog Flag and shit Yeah yeah yeah yeah I remember when you were telling you were YouTube ass up, and then your channel left. You're like, whoa.

So I went from making, in a matter of January, February, March, April, I went from the beginning of January at the start of the pandemic, making $200,000, within three to four months, making $16,000 a month. Don't know what the fuck I'm doing. I'm showing guns, bazookas, niggas. Nobody black pulled me to the side. Yeah. And said, say, man, look out.

Now, I give Vlad credit when they took my time. channel he said hey man but you can't do this I'm with all the son and nobody said well man you should do pre-recorded edits and they know ain't nobody giving me the game yeah so I had to lose

and in the process I said life ain't ain't about winning life is learning how to lose because you go get older you're going to lose your hair you'll lose family members you'll lose your teeth or lose your sight

I started learning how to lose because I started losing on the internet and that's what that's what inspired me was this shit create your own website start selling merchandise because I started saying okay with a business mindset I just created a new page the new page is monetized within 48 hours every time every time so I'm saying if they follow me like this why wouldn't if I jump over here let's see if they'll follow me over here so when I jumped over here to get the website they started buying merchandise the first month of sale was I'm up to $10,000 because they were looking for a page and I'd have a page.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. And that's when he lost his page. Think about that. So had you never, just think about had you never lost the Instagram page. I had lost four Instagrams and two YouTube at this time.

So I don't win to spend all the money on guns and bullies. What the fuck you buy them guns and bullies? I threatened they would put my address online so no, my mind, I'm ready for wall. Oh, any of them were scaring me for real. So they're stockpiling weapons. Yeah, see, that's what I want to talk to you

about were you ever really felt like I'm in danger? Because you don't want to get some hell of fash shit. Ain't anybody stood before the world and total crips and bloods, fuck y'all. And not only did that, I said, Raymond Washington then took you. Not only that, I said, f***ing hipset hustle too. His mom and his baby.

So I disrespected everything, uh, uh, yeah, my medical fire has said I'm homicidal and suicidal. That I want to be killed by somebody. that's my that's my mental medical records say so they was trying to take my my gun license from me but they couldn't so so so no judge would deem me a mentally unstable it was my rhetoric

so they're going off my internet rhetoric so I tell them you better be careful what you say because the shit I'm saying online they had screwed white people and they said man they had been calling the FBI on me so now they uh they took me through the mental route and so you know they said homicide and suicidal by ideation in preparation. Those were powerful words.

Yeah, yeah, I mean, you indoctrinated with some shit. Yeah, so, homie, so that's what made me change my tune. Yeah, but, but so you, at some point, was you scared. Was you scared? Like, what? Well, homie, you got to put my address online. So, my address? And I don't, in, in them California start coming to the city, but they're doing it with a bluff game.

Yeah. So you remember the Compton Crip came down with the Abdul Shepel and then. Here come I told them all of it. So them are coming into the city, and they got the half-ad gangster criminal skit, man. He got them California. So, yeah, yeah, yeah, they putting the bluff game down. Major bluff game.

Maude James. So, yeah, they didn't put the bluff game. So, uh, but, but we don't know it's the bluff game because we look, respect to, uh, so, yeah, I was scared. But, uh, that don't, my bad, you're good. That don't stop me. That don't, that don't stop me for being a warrior. Yes, a one.

Paper Tide. No, yeah, I was scared, but soldiers and warriors and fighters. Yeah, you get scared, but I ain't, in my mind, I'm standing on right. Yeah. And I used to say this online. I used to say this in the shower. Though I walked through the valley of the shadow of a deal, I shall fear no evil. Man, I'm speaking against evil, man.

I'm saying, f***le evil. Right. And I always felt like that's what you were standing on. Like, you're standing on that the universe got to protect a man. But how do you contrast that with I'm speaking against evil But I'm also saying Fripps and fuck his mama now

Because I ain't saying I'm saying See I think you ran some mean game With that shit I think you ran on me No no homie So

So You learn this shit in college From writing papers And studying Andrew Warhol and what's that other painter name Jay Z trying to look like, Bioskot? Yeah, Boscai, yeah, homie. So you, from going to college, you learn, homie,

that when we look at these entertainers, they're not their persona. Nipsey ain't Irmus? Or is he, though? He's not, because when you go to the funeral. But you ain't speaking about Nipsey in the raping context. I'm speaking about the rolling 60 Crip Nipsey that joined this gang that killed eight trades and hooves.

So Irimus then joined the gang, you're saying? Irmonds joined the gang and had to play Nip and couldn't take the costume off. Like OG Percy. Like most people get into this life and can't take the costume off so they get stuck on stage. Yes, Lord. Nip got stuck on stage. Iramish Nip ain't on the sideline

talking to these Jewish billionaire and millionaire investors who is helping him change his communities they're talking to Irmiss Irma's put Nip ass left him in the car he ain't cuss and on 6-0 cubs on neighborhood

he's not neighborhood need white folk When he was going down to talk to the police department to create this new gang incentive program He ain't, Nip can't do that Right You're the 60s, man,

that Irimus for doing this in the name of Nip. Yeah. The 60s wasn't happy with Nip. But when you go to the funeral, as all of us, all of us play whatever we play outside of awful mama's poets. When we go to Mama's Poets, we ain't Nip. Mama ain't college.

Hey, Nipsey, neighborhood, nip. Yeah. So, so, so I'm sitting at the funeral. I went the Nipsey Hustle funeral with the role in 60s Crips. One of the original founders and original crib members is Cappuccino. So I'm riding a car with Capitino.

I'm in a sprinter van with Ms. S.S., one of the original. And these elders and their 60s, almost 70s. Yeah. I'm with the originals. Burr-foot, Pookie, all of them. So I want to know who is Nipsey Hustle. Because before he died, I didn't know who the fuck he was.

I knew he was a rapper. I knew it was a rolling 60, had never heard his music. Other than one, the song with YG, I lived in L.A. at the time. I stayed on Imperial Vermont, right there on the borderline of Denver Lanes in the Hoover's neighborhood. I worked at Diamonddale adolescent group home, so I ain't really know who Nip was. But when I went back home, my city from the radio station and everybody, they got a whole downtown celebration by the n-old and died in L.A. because we've seen some news clips of him talking, some talk.

Yeah. So I'm like, what for you? So I went to saying, we got such and such around. Here, that's a Nipsey Hustler. I didn't name myself. I want to name it other people who do what y'all think. And y'all even support these. How y'all celebrate?

So God made it for a way for me to get an invitation because even though I didn't have a California drive, but you had to have a California drive, and I need to get a ticket to the funeral. So I'm cool with skull. at the time. Another original Crip

founder of the A. Trey gangster crypt. I'm cool with O.G. Skull at the time. So he's standing at King Bobby Louis

house. King Bobby Louis is one of the founders of the Piru. I don't connect it with all the originals. So we go

to the funeral together. But me and Skull catch the Uber to the 60s neighborhood. So we're at the original house

where the rolling 60 started. So I'm soaking up the history. And I still got Rowling 60 tattooed on me. So, I'm going to know who Nip is.

So when I go to the funeral, I don't never hear the name Nipsey. I heard the music playing. Yeah. That's crazy. We at the Staples Center. Yeah, but that's crazy. I'm smoking too, though.

The dude as the Romans do. That's what the Bible. I'm smoking too. Do like the Romans do. Yeah, when in Rome. Man, I'm in Rome. Yeah. But I'm here to learn

I don't know what nobody else Yeah you're gonna soak some game I'm here to learn Who is this guy Because that's the desire of my heart I don't know if it was out of jealousy or envy But I'm saying I've been doing this work in this town

For working in a and I don't get no support I'm a little offended by this Yeah So I'm on a whole other mission when I go I ain't here for this rapping I want to know who this nigga does And I'm jealous that my city is celebrating the and I've been putting it now. And then they're going against me.

So I sat there and I listened. I heard Eirmis. Earmiss? I said, that was sharp. Then I heard a little boy get up there and say, last night, Eremis came to me. I'll put that blunt out. He said, what's up, killer?

He was in heaven. Nigger Yeah. Yeah. Then he went on to give a detailed account in a conversation of this guy by the name of a year. Yeah. No way, yeah.

But I'm saying when I go look at nip, I'm seeing him slap the reporter. I'm seeing, I'm a 60 for anything, Cud. What? But after the funeral, I'm riding.

I get a ride back. home or scud leave me in the neighborhood he leave me in the 60s neighborhood I had sent that they had a pistol in a bag of mine

he called one of them 60s one of them old 60s and said say man get that bag he got a woo woo woo then they ain't going to give me that bag and they know he got a pistol yeah I asked for it's out and I will get it to him I'm over to this on I got a pocket full of money so the procession

getting rid of the me and Raymond Washington daughter got separated from the crowd every set every gang I don't know

my life just like in training day she's gonna left me over here so but I'm gonna fly smooth and you never let them see you sweat. So now I won

them parts, homie. Yeah, one thing about you. I warned them parts, homie, so yeah, so, so I need to ride home, but LAPD, they had, they used the helicopters to jam the cell phone tower, so we

couldn't use the phones for whatever reason. Damn. They shut down all the stores, so ain't no Uber coming through. California, L.L. a dangerous place. Yes, a dangerous spot. And then, everybody, every set in L.A. is And coming to this area, homie. You got every, so this is a volcano.

If you see, go back and let's just look at the pictures, homie. This is a volcano. This is L.A. LAPD. Worst nightmare. Yeah, yeah. So, uh, uh, in the 60s is on edge. Right, because they just lost one of the big dogs. And they're on edge.

And they're tripping, homie. So, yeah, so, uh, so I needed a ride back, uh, back in close to the hovers. So Raymond Washington, best friend, Big Sike, a big old, he don't talk. I'm talking about big old

intimidates or I should say, Big Sight, man, I cannot pay you to give him a ride back to the hood. I don't really know what hood I mean. So he said where I say, off of Imperial Vermont. So he told me what it was.

And as we ride in her, he tells me a story of a young kid about 11, 12 years old. They walked up. to him and says, say, big homie, can I ask you a question? He said, yeah. He said, why are you gang banging? He said, shit, I gang banged because I was born too.

He said, his young 11, 12-year-old kid by the name of Irman said, say, big homie, when I grow up, I'm going to change the hood. That wasn't Nipsey. Nipsey was just a vehicle to keep him protected. Big Sam didn't join 60s, Nip did. Big Sam wasn't never cool with Nip being in 60. Yeah. So Irman's wasn't supposed to be a gang member or a gang banker

But because he was that cost him his life That's crazy how decisions work Choices were And even if it don't get you now Yeah And you're trying to come out of this role He ain't have no business playing that role And you don't made it to this status

So it's a lesson to be learned Homie that's still on the front line Telling that homie that nigga Yeah Yeah homie so But I think that the Nipsey thing is extremely interesting. Big you didn't get, big you wasn't at the funeral, whether. You go.

It's a lot behind that, homie, but don't know what happened. Homie, the feds is saying it, but they're not saying it. And a lot of what they're saying, homie, they're saying, we know we just don't have, why you think Eric Holden ain't dead? Yeah. They could press a button. Come on, homie, we make his trade for the food to go back there. The inmates make his trades.

Come on. They didn't got at him, but they said the Mexicans got out. It wasn't they, the Mexican did it because the Mexican would nil, but that's just for love for nip. Exactly. But if the face of the, if the face of the 60s go down, man, it's a response about that. But now, with that ideology, I would say that they wouldn't have let Wack 100 in them

move around. much as they was. Wack 100, don't move around. Wack 100, I ain't seen in L.A. But they had no jumper. I don't know what no jump in. No, you go on to jail. You go up there and fuck with Wack 100. We got a missile we'll send through that. That's a couple

to go to jail. Man, they don't want their fed. I would have had the shit whack up if I would be. Man, they don't, man, they know the Hohmah. Those that know, no. Yeah. They know the feds in now. Yeah. Now, we know they look. He said the Fed came and got me and asked me about

Everybody in the winter The fed's in now They ain't watching They're in now They're in there operating With a microphone Good God You figure out who it is

But fans are talking On the phone on the mic Look at you're clapping for Woo woo woo woo Oh have mercy Homers not an entity They don't infiltrate They don't send nobody in

Because look how you infiltrated You went out there And was able to get in Walking in cowboy boots Playing on Melbourne From the internet speaking game That's how I met Melvin former

from the internet speaking game. Right. At the time, he was doing speaking engagement with, uh, John Gotti Jr., uh, tone, uh, what's the tone from the Latin, the Latin King got a New York tone, uh, so a Melbourne former John Gotti Jr., or Latin King Tongue, I think they were putting Burrful Pookie on there, uh, and one other person, uh, Fred Hampton Jr. So they were doing a speaking tool for the, uh, for, uh, man, what's that shit called? man that conflict resolution shit

them there homie so they wanted to pull me in because I got all the traction with the youth and the youth said nationally this nationally so they pulling me in on a national level

because I'm in D.C. So that's how me and Melvin met so when I had a little issue with the police when they take me to the crazy house and put that tag on me man and my mom and everybody homie know that for me to be

what I was at this time as radical as I would with my voice to a white people. Man, let's leave a little bit because interaction with the police homie they're on alert. Every time. Every time, because they put this on me.

Yeah, yeah. So they look at you a certain way, no matter what. Yeah, I'm a threat to them. And I got a lot, and I post all these guns and my rhetoric, homie. So at the time was white folk this. And then you got a following on top of that. That make you even more dangerous.

Just make you even more than you can press a button and they really start activating them around this. Yeah, so, so, homie, so. But because I had work with government officials, homie, Ted Cruz, John Corning, Rubio, man, Senator Harold Doughton. I can go on. But because I had worked with these people,

they said, man, something doesn't happen to Charles. He something went crazy with. Yeah, they're giving them the benefit of a job. Because I'm, because of the old. Plus, I'm with the old. I'm with the old pops. The old pops of them got a history with white folks. They got a real organization called.

Texas and it's a group of some military men and they don't fight number police one of them killed a captain in the mayor of wardening so they only nigger they only be more so when you hear me say certain names old weas or Eroy Brown

homo those names square white people and those men mentored me so uh that's who you got a lot of your game from too yeah he following me on on Facebook yeah so so so so so when they took me in home of day They want to dissecting their brain

They studied out Social Media Post So they kept up for like seven days What was this in L.A. or Texas? No, it was in Texas So that was maybe moved L.A. Yeah. So you got out of there?

I got out of Texas. Yeah, yeah. So I made my homeboy partner had just killed a high-ranking police officer So it was a lot of tension between me and my local police department So when you see me keep going to jail Keep getting these charges

That's my local police department getting their leg back. I infiltrated our police department, homie. I met with a, I met with a, I met with a, I met with our city council member. So, huh, I'm in the community, working with kids with a sincere heart and desire to work with youth

who were once like me. Trouble kid, juvenile, tricked by the culture, bought into the bullshit, come from a good home, raised right, but just doing wrong. So we're trying to help say this. You know, I believe it's my God-given purpose. Step out. You can't step in the studio and call.

He's going to my phone up over here. Charles wanted me to go. That thing is crazy. Yeah. So I'm really sincerely trying to help in the community. And I got the game from Jewish people who's saying you want to be a self-sustained organization, Charleston. You don't want grant money. You don't want funding.

You want to be self-sustained. You got that game from the Jewish. From the Jews. You want to be self-sustained. You don't be a beggar. The nonprofit is good, but you want your people who, the people you seem to help, your constituents, your community. Why would anybody give you anything? That's why black people can't get nothing because their constituents don't give to them.

So when they gave me that game, I came back to the community. The old niggas say, you got to have something to sell. So that's why you see me selling barbecue. Yes. I'm selling T-shirts. So I'm really trying to be self-sustainable. So I met with Gina Bivens, who was our city councilman of District 5. She said, Charleston, all the help that you need is with the police department.

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Join the searches we explore the chilling cases of missing and murdered black women and girls. Listen to hunting for answers every weekday on the Black Effect Podcast Network, IHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcast. There you go, because it don't come from the police department. It comes by the way of public safety funding. Well, why is our funding coming from public safety? High crime areas. Gangs.

Yes. So we have to have the funding. So we're going to give your police department $700 million for one year. Now there's 700 million 400 million is theirs 300 million is the communities But if you don't With the police

You don't get to go get your money Right It ain't they money Yeah There's your money For your kids swimming It's coming through public safety Yeah

Public safety That goes for parks and recreation That's why you can't use the park And so that's parks and recreation That's your swimming pool So if you need all that, that's over there. Yeah. Yeah, we got some of this allocated for infrastructure.

But what y'all need is over there. Gang intervention, gang prevention. So it's not just to lock up those are your intervention. We got plenty money to prevent this. But if y'all don't fuck with us, man, I don't fuck with the police. Then guess who gets the money? Your preachers. Because your preachers' fuck with the police.

That's why every time it's a police shooter, some happen, go get the pre-men go get Reverend getting the money you know why could they tell Reverend how to get the 501c3 so Reverend don't just won't gau's money no more he won't tax exemption from your money you give him so then told Reverend how to get the 501c3 now Reverend got the 501c3 Reverend's supposed to have an after-school program

he's supposed to have a daycare but he's using the money another way so they give him the funding because you won't with the police so when I got that game I said well shit I ain't a criminal let me go f*** with the money the police. That's a mean thing from my community though, right? Just being black, I think you broke

that though. You kind of broke the mold with interaction with the police, even for the benefits. Like you're saying, wouldn't even go over there to feed the children. Men, men, a promoter. Homeal promoter can have stopped the

violence concerts and get free money from the county. Pay this pay that. You're talking about. You're talking my $50,000 that they'll get you to put a stop the violent event on, go get what you like as a route. But if you don't fuck with these people, then they go go buy a new tank.

They're going to go buy them drones you can't see in the sky. Put shit all around the city, spying. There you go. They feel to go buy some toys. Yeah, yeah, yeah. For sure. And you don't know they got the money neither. Shit.

We're for the final way to fund it somewhere else. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, but if you ain't got that game, homie, so I'm saying we all can't be anti-police When we know we need the police when I got that game It wasn't that I was forced to I'm saying okay When you realize how the 501c3 and the non-profit work Just where most of the money is you ain't got to stand on the corner with the kids With the little league football team and got the cheerleading girls out there with they skirted

She's looking like little hos. You got the little boys nappy-headed with the pads half off and on. You ain't got to do that, homie when you understand you can go over here and take their money and create some type of

booster fund for the kids. That chick filet, that McDonald's, all them's Taco Bells, all them places, food, fast food places you got in your community supposed to go over there and partner with them. Hey, these sales tonight we're going to bring all these people here.

They're supposed to get money back, but you don't With these people. So you don't know. So you steady trying to shame black people in the giving you. So when Gina Biven said that, homie, I went to develop, you know, relationship with the police department. And by doing that over the years, when I see that there's a police officer that's doing something and people call me and say something,

I got some power to call down there and had an officer move to another side of town. When they got all the rookies over her at nighttime, say, look at a deputy dean, man, why y'all got all the rookies over here? You know, they come with the rookie mistakes. We need some veteran laws on this side of town. Man, don't put all the rookies over here, man. They got, you know what I'm saying? So you're building that kind of relationship as a community leader.

It wasn't when I started trying to go radical that they started saying, man, hey, we don't know about Charles. Yeah. But I'm repeating the rhetoric of the old. You see what I'm saying? And I'm starting to be more for us. Now I'm talking Fubu talk For us

By us With us Of us or against us Now I'm starting to grow my dreads Now I ain't clean cut no more So now the white people Really put them back now Yeah

Because I'm really starting to go Like my people Roll Going roll I was being I was gonna be a sellout Yeah They were grooming me

To be a real And I was I was jumping in the chair To be grown Yeah Or out of disdain And I ain't Go

toward the culture. Not that I've been a victim of the culture. I would victimized by the culture because I was tricked and it was propagated to me as a kid. Yeah, yeah. I think we've all went through that, man. Like, even with me,

I had got around certain people and been like, I just know he a hustler. Because he's been talking hustler shit. Can you give me 50 bricks? Yeah. Me and my people, in the way you... Mm-hmm.

They make nothing happen. Them fucking. And so I'm saying, oh, they got up in deep in the game and dame even in the game. No. That's what I be saying now. Even the nun street people pushing the no snitch and shit. Everybody talking like they street hustler game. So they tricked me.

Here I am. I got my own room in the third grade with a phone line in it. Yeah. I got breakfast on the stove and almost every. So I come from a well-to-do background, but I want to play poor. That shit crazy. I don't act like I'm from the hood. Oh, man, you know how inferior

and insecure I used to feel when I find out from the suburbs. I might hit you cross your head with something. Just to hide the fact that out from the suburbs. Stop talking about that. You're going to get the fighting in here. I might hit you up to, because that was a, that was a inferiority

complex. That's crazy. Be from the good part of time. Yeah, man. Well, the house is better, the schooling better. To be from out there was a thing that we took and said, ain't nowhere in the world. I'm letting no that know that. Where do you think the whole movie ATL with Nunu

hiding that she's from this? Right. That's our culture, my man. Everybody got it out the mud. Everybody from Man, nah. Yeah, they're lying like a mom. We some silver spoon. baby, it's like a

especially them 80s baby with them them blue collar miller class working parents right them meals

and steals them old man blue collar was the backbone of a miracle and that's what most our mom

and dad and them would yeah for sure even if they got off on drug they maintained them blue collar

job yeah they ain't losing jobs in the 80s they're smoking dope and everything they ain't losing that job

yeah My uncle would like that. Man, so I'm saying, no, we all didn't come so. It wasn't until I got damn. I'm in my 30s where I can finally say, I wasn't raised it, I ain't now. Yeah. Yeah, I want to call the police on a n-

Yeah. You know how hard it was to say that out loud. I know, but then you just accepted it. I don't know what. Man, man, you changed the culture, bro. I'm telling you, now. Man, sent me up to get robbed for 22 pounds a week. The day Michael Jackson died.

We're sitting up watching men breaking news, Mike's Day, pow, hit me up, and this is my hometown and need my partners. But this is out of jealousy and envy. Right. So, uh, the street's talking. And, you know, I'm alive while in my city.

Uh, no, street's talking. But, I can't leave my babies, but I want my leg back. Yeah. She is. At first I tried, first I told,

Uncle. I said, oh, I'm Wayne. Say, man, you know the fucking they robbed me. Say, call the police and call the crime stop a line and drop a dime on the fucking. I'm an old school player. I said, oh, nephew, I ain't doing that. You got to put your own work here

in, nephew. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So, shit, nigga, I told my bitch, I said, I'm going to get my do it. Oh, my my bitch didn't know what to say confidently. I did it.

kid i'm secretly called crime stopper told everything i can know uh what happened though what you mean what did they go did they hell yeah man hell yeah the people ain't got them well that's crazy yeah oh hell yeah they went and got them and it felt good what happened to a going to put his mask on though c w ain't that mad i don't you sometimes a line lose them back teeth in the back he got to let the hyena do to kill and then he come take it from the hyena try to skirm ro-r-r-r-r-r-h

But he can't bite no more than teeth broiler in the back my teeth had got broiler in the back I ain't couldn't bite no more

22 pounds a lot man that's a big loss yeah and but I with my essay partner him yeah

but my essay partner he's my partner but his uncle's you know what I'm saying no way could they think I'm in on it because every time

I'm coming out there I ain't got no pistol on me so they're seeing how I'm too fly Yeah too fly guy Yeah Too smooth with it

Yeah Yeah yeah So the uncle's saying Nah he in Yeah And he ain't on it Yeah Yeah yeah

Yeah so Because In their world They killed For that much Yeah But now My cousin

You know We We uh Yeah My cousin My cousin may rest In peace Gave the title

Up to his corvette And yeah And yeah Worked it off That's because They gonna make Work it off Man

Yeah You don't get away With that With the I had never really been no real I had I had I said ain't never really been no real in the in the knee deep street kind of you spent your child you spent those years in jail yeah so so so I got out at 21 yeah from 21 to 30 really just I'm a who everybody

with so I can go to Dallas and get whatever so when it's a drowding for work because I grew up in the boys home I know everybody. I know all the Houston. I was saying, there ain't no city of you because I grew up in the boys home.

So everybody knows me. So I was, I'm the favorite middleman. Yeah. So I ain't have to say a dog. I know the guy. Come on, I got you.

I got you. I get you straight. Yeah, every time. I know. I know I already know I'm going to come back and get the money. So I'm going to make sure

every, so I'm everybody's favorite middleman. So when this go bad, this ain't, this don't, right to nobody right everybody know man they do do good business so it was a black eye for them

so uh make sure these these two uh essay uh uh essay them let me work it out so at the time my daughter was just born I had just I had just started my first semester at community college my dad had just died

and so he had left me a little money my baby mom was on the room she were dancing my baby mom was on the run at the time she was were dancing for a probation, she was on the run for a probation violation. My daughter was six months old. My baby mama just got arrested, so I got the baby. So I run into my partner and says, hey, I just come across S-A-N, they got a hundred

pound. So S-A-N-blessed my game. Yeah. But this ain't me. I'm just financially trying to just do a little something right now. It's out of necessity. We all been through that kind of shit. But it's working so well.

that gravitational pull pulling the nudge toward that way and I'm saying I don't want to but it's pulling the nudge that way and I'm saying God man listen don't you do I remember saying this one night

okay God don't you do nothing to goddamn me stop this let me stop it and that's what happened because God knew I wouldn't go stop it because the devil is now starting to fulfill your desires of the streets that you ever had right I went through that

to pull you back one time i was so my game was kind of opposite to yours i was a who i was out there but my my biggest thing i'd done around here was i played middleman when i really had it and they kept me out of these conversation when they get pulled over when they're going to tell they never thought to say my name but if they just took some time those they thought about it they never not got it like i always used to tell them yeah let me let me check on that for you right quick. Let me call my homie, man. You know what I'm saying? Man, I got this here, man. Then I'll wait a few seconds and call it back. Yeah, no, it's good, man.

What you're trying to do? Woo-do-woo. But I played that game. But I also was on the other side of it and I had a situation where my friends again. Depot be my buddies. Depot be my friends. So we, you know, I got a situation coming from Arizona back when that Arizona shit will fly. Pulling up. That popcorn. Yeah. My friends. They called it kind. Yeah, that shit was fire back then.

Today's droll can't with it. That shit was so good, bro. I'm talking about, man. So my home boys, I'm getting them straight every time my plug coming through. So I come outside one day and I noticed that one of my homeboys sitting outside. It didn't make sense to me to it. I all fell apart. I said, oh, that's what he was doing.

So anyway, he's sitting outside. I go get home and straight. Now, he ain't on my friend's side. He on the plug side. This is who's sitting on the porch. part of the plug crew my crew pull up to get the shit whatever i ask him you know so i go get him straight kind of find out why he outside and i mean that getting it straight he push up on one of my boys hey man you know loon putting a little something on it you know what i'm saying if y'all nigger

want to you know what i'm saying cut cut bruh out the deal you dig it's you know what i mean da da da he bite with the driver he tried to go meet the nuk very next week they told his mouth out But I told my friend that's y'all fault for trying to cut me out. Y'all don't want to loan to make nothing? This is my that set the play up, right? This is my, I'm, he's my right. He's my n'clock. When he goes to go, he don't know my n-in'em in Dallas.

He's getting, he getting 25 to 30 pounds each time. It's every two days, 25 to 30 pounds in a brick. And he's taking, he takes. taking your pound back to four work at the time. 13, 1,200 a pound. 10.75 if y'all play a pound. Exactly. I'm getting them for...

That's the number, too. Yeah, I'm getting them for $9.50,000, you know, so I'm getting $100,000,000. Yeah, I'm getting a hundred-dollar-so of them eating. No, you do me like that. But it's the Mexicans, you know, when the fed, so I got that. So the Mexican, the Mexican brother do me like that. But my... My...

Taking over a truck paper. that we're getting a dope from in Dallas. I get a truck for him in my name. The feds get him, so I get the truck back. I let my n-ta take over the payments. So he's sending me the money to make the payments. As long as he's sending me the money, the payment's getting good. So I tell him, say, no, big boy, I trust you and your girl just start making the payment.

Now he's getting the money to his girl. The white boy, Richard, and all this documented in the newspaper, I'm in Richard, all this Suzuki. The white boys, they money laundering All this for all the big time dope dealers And so everybody so But the fed's fit to get them But we don't know this

So He's getting the money to his Picking the money Right in the check playing the check game So every time he missed a payment They come to repo it Because they know the lifestyle They come to repo the truck one night

He got like 30 some thousand in that bitch The bitch to miss note She doesn't miss November payment, check them bounce, but it'll come back in January. Right. Then she laid on January, so they hurry up and go get the truck to get the extra money to feed that they did.

You know, they play that game. There they go, and hit for $30,000. He thinking, listening to the truck. He thinking, listening to the Bs, I don't come back and get the money. So that's what he staged to play to get me robbed. God. Yeah, yeah.

We could have been millionaires. See, the game is always like that. That's what's fucked up. It's like, and not only... We made it up out of that, but, uh, yeah, you know, uh, I start, I start seeing my n-uh put Xanax in, you know, I, I start watching my, go from sipping syrup, uh, to putting X X in Jolly Ranchers and in the bottle, shaking it up trying to, yeah, he's going down the dog, pal, though. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. tell them like all my homies like that's why you know you can't trust them with this level of shit you be around when they on them drugs and shit you just can't trust it bro like um because

it costs too much so yeah not homie so you know i would know as a as a as a smooth player you know you know i've been the ladies man in the streets homie so uh so if the streets up that that happened between me and big boy because he was a smooth but then his reputation start going down here that be a real character at some point home Homie, yeah, yeah, that was a character. So ultimately, that, that ended up costing him. So, when I sent the police that way, yeah, yeah, I had to get him over here, yeah, yeah.

I sent him. Yeah, yeah, yeah, so they end up, you know, shooting through the door and shooting the police officer. Damn. Yeah, yeah. Is that because they came with the open up? With the no-knock, with the no-knock shit. So they beat it, though.

So, so, but the, I told on, end up snitching on one of his young. Who actually shot. Yeah, he ended up snitching on it. And these are some player, y'all, you know, homie. Yeah. Them young dude loved me to this day because they saw how my n-crossed me. So they would always watch him because of, if he, I mean, if he would cross blue.

Yeah, so, yeah, but he was, they kind of like their big homie. Yeah. But they some live little n-mmy, and they was, and they was, him yon-you were his muscle. At that time, they go shoot it out with the police behind that and shoot a bit. They shot it out with the police. That's crazy, though. So, so, yeah, them little bit of them love me to deal with him. And they beat that.

Yeah. because the police came with the... Yeah, yeah, but damn, you'd think they'd try to steal with a conviction out of that more. Well, they got some conviction. They ended up going through them. They did some time behind it. They just beat the tempted of capital murder on the police.

Because they had been... The big boy had been robbing, you know, after that, homie. So it was some other than they had they had been sending text messages and threats. So that's what kind of say to them. So mostly had sent some threats. So they don't know if it's the police because the police didn't say nothing,

but the police lied and said they said something. But them nigger beat that case. I think they ended up doing like 10 years. Shit, big boy got out, got back home. And so now when he get out, I hurry out. And I'm on this one ass. You hear me? Well, I'm going to end up because I'm big on social media now.

Yeah. I was starting to become big. I'm being on Facebook. Yeah, my nigga called me like, man, listen, woo, woo, woo, woo, we talked about it. Small misunderstanding and a lot of them street friendships. That's how I go. a mind you f*** up in your mind you know me you know you don't i don't gave me the money i don't

went to go get it you don't know my mama liu you don't know i could leave my apartment i could have been ran out with the money why with that kind of nip come on you listen to the debil playing yeah i could have been done this come on my nigg you don't send me and waited i don't went to the other city to get it and come back come on yeah Niggas don't be thinking, man. Those girls cloud of the damn, bro. But they reflect who they are on other people. Right.

That's a hard fact, too. Lying people think everybody lines. Thieves think everybody stealing. I hate that when he takes you and they go to panicking because a don't answer quick enough or something. Damn, you don't fuck with it, what damn what in there? Ah, you on some other shit. That's what's in your head.

You see my fuck with me. That's why you think I don't want you. Yeah, yeah. You got to watch for that kind of shit. Yeah, I listen for it. Yeah, I listen for it. What's in a man's heart going to come out of their mouth. Right.

Especially if he'd like to talk. Yeah. It's that quiet I don't say much you got to kind of ponder and wonder about. But now, how much? So that was my life changing experience in my early 30. My daughter was just born.

So I had never been betrayed by a friend before. Right. I had never been betrayed by a friend. We don't fuck each other, girls. But when you're young, that's not betrayal. Right. But, yeah, no, I had never been betrayed. So that was my life lesson.

When you heard me say, I don't fuck with me. I don't fuck with me. Yeah, that's all right. And so by that time, when I went and got in college, a few years later, all of my real childhood friends started coming home from prison, from shit they did when they were kids. Because your friends, you really made friends in prison.

In boys home, yeah, Dewberry and I would wait on. Most of the I went to school with, we didn't main, it was like two or three, we maintained friendships. But you're not the same, you can't maintain the same level of friendship from the six and seven grade and you come back at 22, 23. Because now these got egos

from selling dope and you know what I'm saying they might have been weenny n'rs in school now they big dogs can't nobody tell them nothing so they're super tough or you know what I'm saying

or they might have been super tough now they don't dope so the dynamics had changed you know what I'm saying so I was kind of like in the wilderness just alone because I know everybody

I can go from Fort Worth to Grand Prairie, Doward, Oak Cliff, West Dallas, Pleasant Grove, Houston, San Antonio. So I can go to all these different places in it because I spend his whole teenage life in the boys home. And I was in an institution that only housed Texas most violent youthful offenders. So that's from 91.

So you met everybody in that way. I met all the big dollars in the neighborhood, they were kids. Because you know the statistics say that that's in there at that age, them going to be them kind of. for the rest of their life. So all I was in the boys' home with,

then when they got 18 and 19 by the time they were 21, 25, they ran certain prisons. Right. That's exactly how I'd say is going to go. Because they come through, just like the movie, American Mead and all the movies, all of them starting their boys' home. Yep.

So most real bad home we got juvenile records. A bad juvenile record. Bad, yeah. They was in boys' home, a different youth center. Yeah, yeah. All those met up in juvenile attention center. So all the new people started the gangs.

I was in the boys home So I got, you know It was like joining a fraternity for me Because it wasn't no It wasn't no deadly violence in the boys' home We fight like a bitch We squabble like a mo' But it wasn't no deadly violence

Might get hit across the head or something But it wasn't no deadly violence So it was growing up just fighting If you was free, do you think you would have joined the crime? Yeah, I would have been killed It was in your spirit Oh, so imagine imagine my internet persona

as a gang number it's the same it would have been the same yeah I would have been just disrespectful yeah because that's my temperament

or anything I embrace that's me playing back you can't hold me so that's playing domino you go that persona comes out so now

that's the persona I had in the boys home so that's how I got the name nut that same internet persona was in that little n'r with the one yeah

and I'm just acting so I'm going overboard yeah But it's convincing. It's convincing. You know what I'm saying? See, because you got this thing, like you've got this pattern where you've said, yo, I infiltrated the police.

I went out there and infiltrated the role in 60s. So you got a certain level of game where you can make it look like whatever you really want to make it look like. So, so, so when I joined a gang in 92, uh, gang banged had already been big. in America from the mid-80s by way of the crack epidemic. So if you watch that movie,

what's that movie about crack with that on Netflix? Snowfall. Snowfall. So if you watch Snowfall, you saw Jerome them took crack. Yes. The mother-in-state in California.

Jerome them took crack. Crack and the gang bang came together. Yeah, because it was coming out of LA. There you go. The work was coming out of LA. So, so, so, so that's why you had the documentary banging in Little Rock. That's why them

was so detrimental. That's why they gang. That's why their first years of gang banging was so horrific and horrendous because they got to California and the country and took the gang

and took it to extreme. You saw in the movie, he said, man, these country nigger, wild another guy. They're giving you certain history in this shit. So by time

it gets to Texas and Louisiana, I'm, what, maybe 11, 12, by time I'm 14, it's real, but I'm from the suburbs, so I don't see it. It ain't in my school, it ain't in my television, and when I go to my any of them house in the gutters, in the slum, I see them bandana. So it's only appealing because I've seen it on colors.

It's just like the shit we see on love and hip hop, you know, it's all. With the cyber truck or something, you know what I'm saying? So that flag became, that was like, it was appealing, like the cyber truck. So, uh, the deferred iPhones, that bandana. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So, uh, when I, so I'm one of the very few kids in my school that was going to juvenile. But I'm going to jury for mischievous delinquency, stealing cars, uh, vandalizing.

So I'm getting to get a peek of it, a little couple of days I'm staying in juvie. Come home. go to school, mimic, a stance, a walk. You know what I'm saying? When I got the juvenile, I got to see a fool up close and personal, she was everything I was looking for. It's like, say, mama, I want to play football.

Right. The camaraderie, all, and then got the blue dickies on with the rug, just everything in it. Because it was already appealing by way of television with the young impressionable mind. Right. So at this time, Larry Hoover's literature, growth and development,

is being started to be spread throughout the prison system, the juvenile system, so it's starting to come down south and everything. But the Crips and Bloods don't have no literature. But they're trying to adopt literature by way of acronyms, CRIP, community revolution in progress. Cuds, rest in peace. Community revolution, international.

So they're starting to put acronym, But that's the brainwashing with the bull shit For the young people to make it feel like it's honorable Right So now they're coming with acronyms of blood Brothers leading others out of darkness So they come with some acronyms But they're getting all this mixed up

With Larry Hoover's teaching Equipion so now it's even more appealing Because now we have literature So now they're just checking each other on literature That's GD and BD shit Now the creeping bloods and you know your literature Well when you were playing Domino I was writing

who was in games in California and in a door definitely used to let anybody write in prisons yeah yeah so them people were writing and giving me the history and the knowledge

then Monster Cody dropped that book that book some shit up what monster Cody so when I went and got the first history by all the names

and the time frames when I went into bed that made me the leader amongst these niggas yeah because you knew more than there you go anybody with the information right to the top

Duh, so I was the with the knowledge and the literacy. I wouldn't learn all the handshake, you know what I'm saying? Because they're top dog, right. They're putting in books. They put it in, you know what I'm saying? He's showing us. I'm learning. Yeah, we're just learning shit.

But we're making it up and we go along. Yeah. So that's what superseded me passed to be a little because I had the knowledge. And that's when I understood knowledge, the real power of knowledge. No, for sure. What do you think about Larry Hoover being pardoned by President Trump? Uh, uh, it's been in the making for a minute, uh, yeah, yeah, it's been in the making for a minute. Uh, yeah, it's been in the making for a minute. He, he just needed a strong ally. And, uh, the, the, the lady who, who, who they called the, the czar pardon, the pardoned. Uh, she, she was pardoned once before by President Trump. I didn't know that. Uh, and so, uh, God has given her favor to, to, to have the king's ear. And shout out to the queen

Yeah, for sure Do you think he'll get to unravel the state time? Yeah, yeah He's coming home home He don't got 50 on the 200 or something Well, he up under the old parole system So he already edged up before parole Real, that's good

That's definitely good No, he up under the old parole system Not the new one So he already edged before parole Oh, that's dope, I didn't know that But to him in his mind, he's free now If he never come home, he's free Because he was in that maximum

If you never come home We're free Yeah We don't know what it's like To be locked in a bathroom We're 44 decades For 23 hours a day Every day

You can't talk to your neighbor Because they can't They got to be silent They can't communicate So he can't talk to nobody And it's only certain guards He can talk to They can only have a conversation

Because of the level of power He's been deemed to have So only certain people can talk to him Can you imagine that? And we're talking about Come home free. They say read the mail off of green.

Man, he'd never seen the sun in four decades. He ain't been hugged. He ain't been touched. He ain't had no human contact. He don't know what it'd like. Yeah. We don't know what they feel like. So fuck what we're talking about.

He can shake a hand. He can talk to somebody. He can walk around a yard with a gate in it and feel like he in the ocean. Yeah. What we're talking about. Yeah. Yes, man.

Yeah. See, here's something I think about is like he's, he's been like, like you say, he. We can't forget Jeff Ford either. They punish him Jeff Ford, homie, because Jeff Ford, you know, man, uh, yeah, yeah. And that's his guy, isn't it? Well, yeah, they, they, they was once enemies, but yeah, they, they, they, they once was enemies, that's right, they once was rivals. But, you know, Jeff Ford was fucking with, you know, Farrakhan, Murmah Gaddafi and him, man. You know, so they got him as a terrorist.

But, man, he's an old man, homie. Yeah. These are some old soldiers, homie. How long he'd been locked up? Just as long as Larry Hoover. So they got both of them in the same time. In ADX. El Chapo breaking over there.

Because it's torturous, homie. Yeah. Them old, you know, I'm sure they broke at some point. Yeah. Yeah, they're strong. Yeah, they're strong. It's strong. Yeah, my heart weep for him.

See, I was a little boy. So I spent nine months in isolation as a kid in the GRU program. It was a behavior modification program. You know, I bang-bang-it, right? So, yeah, we was in tour with the disciples in the Hoover at the time, and it was his name, Randy Ware. This was a minute. He was a Hoover.

Yeah, he was a Minus. Yeah, he used to catch. Uh, one of my, uh, yeah, yeah, if he catch it, he'll go maim me. Couldn't he be quite good. Yeah, yeah, make God rest his toe. Yeah, so they ran the world. So, uh, yeah, we jumped on Randi World one time. And, uh, they would land on the ground in handcuffs.

And I was in handcuffs. And so somehow I got up and I ran over there and kicked that in the face while he was in handcuffs. So, so they put me in a, they put me in, at first I think it was originally like a, uh, a, uh, a, 180 day or maybe like a 90 day lockup program it was a behavior modification program

so I ended up staying nine months so it's initially 23 hours locked down I'm gonna kick on the door cuss out the staff flash my dick

and all the other kind of shit so they ain't going to let me out you know what I'm saying but psychologically I was doing that homie because I needed something to interact with yeah uh nigger was too much on on my little brain homie uh uh yeah i had books to read uh it was 20 20

it was too much and you couldn't talk so yeah i would yeah so i would beat and kick on the door uh to make them come in and have to restrain right get some interaction somebody if talk to me if the babe boy says say if it's all right i'm just hollered somebody for the yeah so psychologically that's how i did that yeah uh but it would extend my time And once they figure out So once I started having to talk to psychiatrists and psychologists Yeah they figured that This little thing is playing

So I've been groomed I've been healed from childhood trauma I went through I had psychiatrists and psychologists to talk to at the drop-up a dime Yeah Therapy, group sessions So I'm really institutionalized Because I think I felt in the washing machine

When I was five years old I had to learn how to we walk again By the time I was seven I put my eye out And I had to have nine I surgery from the time I was seven to 12 So I really never got to go to school By the time I'm 14

I'm locked up for murder till I'm 21 I've been in a hospital from lockups So really you know So I learned how to learn systems But I'm wondering what your edge Because where the game come from Because I had a private tutor So I had a private tutor

So as far back as I can remember homie I never initially went to school I had a private tutor who would come tutor me at home. I was personally developed. Right. You see what I'm saying? And that's way better than that school classroom with 30 people. I had one-on-one teaching.

Yeah, that's different. It's shit in my brain. I don't remember where I learned about John Brown. I know about John Brown. They don't teach that in school. No, yeah. I had white. Yeah, so there's some point throughout my school years,

every year I had a private tutor. That's what a game come from. Then they teach you. how to learn. I tell my kids, though, it ain't about just knowing everything. It's about learning how to learn. In retaining what you have learned.

Retaining a bad. And you retain like a... I behind you quote books and quote shit. I'm saying that nick, pulling from shit high, too. That's what be getting me, because I don't stop smoking that is better, but you be high and talking shit and still can retain. What's in the data bank?

That's why you can't have conversations on low frequencies. because the low frequency don't have you go into the books don't have you going to the shelf case. You have some conversation with some people they'll have you put it into your fire cabinet and put a shit out that you didn't even know you had but it's in there because you want to read it

you want some seen it. So I've been giving so many books because I've always been good in English composition, reading and social studies. That's my strength. And comprehension. That's why I can talk.

I can articulate so part of your talking has come from what you didn't read. That's why I can't argue with it. Let me hear and read these books. I can go find a work. You know, so, yeah, I run, so, so, they've been shoving books in my face. I either been in a hospital or I've been in lockup.

Right. Been shoving books in my face. I don't really get to be free until I'm 21. Yeah. And get to explore this big old world. Yeah. I wasn't a criminal. I've been institutionalized.

What made you break the change? Now, before I get to that, what do you think about, what's the white boy name, 1090 Jake? I hate him. I hate him. I can't say this there should be a call of action to do something to him

he'd be with some shit well why he don't go why he don't say nothing about the Mexican cartel they tell the plug tell on the he said a dope to now there's plenty of paperwork on who's been told on by the Mexican plug

why he won't get that paperwork because he knows them cartels and Mexican There's some consequences of repercussion. It ain't no consequences and repercussion to with the pigeon. Yeah. The pigeon don't have no line. Anybody can fuck with the pigeon. You so right.

The pigeon can fly. And we don't see a video where the pigeon on the ground and the rat grabbing. Right. How to fuck it is that. So it ain't no so he's with the pigeon. Yeah. But you mean to tell me, um,

I don't say it. some thing that warns some people that said, I get you. You ain't never heard one city of getting him. It's not going to make videos. I mean, I'm going to get that

b'clock. It's supposed to be saying that about him, homie. He's getting away Scott Free. And he's going to interrupts some shit. He don't fucking. And not on that. He's not getting real court

documented papers. He's going to go get newspaper clippings. You know how inactment. You know how inactment. Newspaper clippings are, homie? Yeah. I didn't like it.

I didn't like it. Then they're 80 years old or son. He's old, man. He'll be locked up just to 70. Homom, you're going to kick our elder? Like, damn, nigga. And then the man who he said, Snitch don't come out and say,

man, that man didn't snitch on me. And you're going to come out and discredit. Homer, you're going to do our elders? Come on, you mean to tell him, ain't nobody go get him? I don't like it, bro. I don't like it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, somebody's probably going to be willing to take this before. of the team. And we'll love you to death. And I can't say it like that, but we'll love you to death, you know,

yeah. Your mom and everybody be well taken care of it. You ain't got to kill him. Damn, man. Oh, shit. The elder, though, the Larry. Who's been locked up 50 years.

We're going to put the SNIS label on that's done 50 and 80X. Come on, homie. Damn. Come on, man. We're going to do that. Come on, homie. And I'm a bona fide street.

I'm been told on. I ain't got no smut on. my jacket. I'm looking at that like, come on, brother. Oh, man. Like, damn, bro. Cut the, and then you, and then, like you say, when you look over and it ain't a n-doin it, it pulls to come with something.

But he ain't doing it to nobody, but, uh, now I can see if he played foul with everybody. Yeah, yeah. See, I don't win against, I don't, it ain't nobody I ain't said nothing bad about it. Yeah. I'm foul with his mouth. He just got us and he pay up. Rappers and shit.

He just got us, homie. And then they don't put him, now they're rapping them by them in songs. Yeah, they're helping him. They're happening. That's what made me think they're stupid. They slow and dumb. Like, these stupid, man.

Why is they, like, giving 1090 Jake any kind of props, man? Listen, if they're stealing packages in this neighborhood, I'm looking out for the thief. I ain't thinking my house is too good for the package to come up missing. He can turn that on anybody, whether it's true or not at any moment. He don't care if it's true or not. And then he don't retract.

He don't correct or done. So, so, no, homie, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. I hate him. But, you know, they let the white boy in. See, I come from every white boy get mistreated when we let him in. We don't play far with him. Yeah. Nigger, we break into his hair and feel sorry when we come over, but we don't want

done it. Yeah. When he come over and he played our Nintendo all of a sudden, we got Contra, and we ain't never had Contra before. Yeah. But it's his country, and we let him play it. But he don't get to take it back home. Yeah.

He should let us take his country home. And when he asked for it back, we break into his house. See, that's how we did our white boy. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And the prodges, it's like it. We make our white boy grew up and say, fuck a n-uh.

Yeah. See how y'all done Jerry Row? Yeah. Jen Roe don't need Man y'all kicked y'all mistreat Jenner Roe New Jersey Jell Roe used to be y'all Nibble used to be right here

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