The Breakfast Club - Jay Pharoah Interview

Episode Date: August 17, 2015

Jay Pharoah Discusses His Showtime Special, Is SNL Funny, Battling Depression and Obesity and Much More Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/list...ener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:03:28 He's in Vegas, though. Vegas. Yeah, he's been in Vegas all week. We have about five people in one right now. The person you're looking at is Jay Pharoah. Yes, what's going on? What's up, my brother? Everything good, man.
Starting point is 00:03:40 Still cashing them SNL checks? Yeah, you already know. So, you know, SNL, you know, about to go on to the sixth season. So it feels good, man. I can't even. It's six seasons, dog. Last time I came up here, it was like, what, my third or my fourth or something? Yeah, second.
Starting point is 00:03:53 Yeah. Nothing's a third. Yeah, third. 2013, man. That's crazy, man. Time has flown by so fast, dog. And you got the Showtime special this weekend. Yes, ma'am.
Starting point is 00:04:02 That's going to be a big deal. Oh, hell yeah, it is. It's your first one, right? Yeah, man. And it got everything Showtime special this weekend. Yes, ma'am. That's going to be a big deal. Oh, hell yeah, it is. It's your first one, right? Yeah, man. And it got everything in it, man. It ain't just some, oh, yeah, let's just do my next. I don't do that. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:04:12 It's like a good body of work. I'm really proud of it. Does Showtime come to you, or do you pitch it to them? There were a few people on the table that wanted to. I think they kind of came because it was a few people on the table who were interested in biting and then um we just ended up doing it with them so yeah always wanted to since you on snl do you have to like tone it down in your stand-up at all not no not not my stand-up but i definitely did i definitely toned it down for the show yeah i mean like i like i curse a lot yeah i've been cursing since i was
Starting point is 00:04:45 four so on the show you cannot curse so it's just like you know it's a little so if you say something about caitlin jenna on your stand-up and say you offend the transgender community wouldn't that reflect on nbc no it's just, nah, because stand-up is like your point of view. So it's like, you know what I mean? It's like, you know what I mean? Like, even though I don't have any Caitlyn Jenner jokes, anything in this special, because I take this, I was telling you about it, November. Remember that week, that week we saw each other, that next week I was like, I'm taping
Starting point is 00:05:19 my special. So this is from like November the 4th. Right. Yeah. So it ain't no, nah, It ain't no Nah It ain't no That has to be hard though You take this November 4th And now it is gonna be
Starting point is 00:05:29 August 1st And it comes out And you're like Man I miss this I miss this Man this is an Ebola joke And then I was like Oh god dang it
Starting point is 00:05:36 I'm looking like Damn man I know Twitter gonna light up Yo he got Oh shit I'm like Oh It ain't even
Starting point is 00:05:44 It's just But it's a good joke but it's just like i know i just feel like god dang it if i get dated yes i if you could just take one little bit but why not edit it because man it's already it's already happening but at the same time listen it was hot at the time you know know. So, fuck it. What was the joke? You might as well tell us. Huh? Nah, you might as well tell us. How are we going to tell this shit right now? Come on, man. Bootleg and shit. Oh, come on.
Starting point is 00:06:10 God dang it, man. How long does it take for you to put together a special? I'm sure you had to go on tour, test everything out, and put together that much material. What is it? It's an hour? It's an hour and three minutes. How long does it take to put together, like, how many months, years, an hour's worth of non-stop material about three i would think for this because three years three years because i mean ghostwriters you need to get you some ghostwriters listen man listen the whole
Starting point is 00:06:37 thing though like i've already uh on this next one i've already started working on my mom's halfway finished with the material for the next one but But this, yeah, it takes three. Because you on the show, you know what I mean? So your time is consumed. It's like I can't hit the road all the time. I can hit the road in the summer and when I have hiatuses. So, you know, you just try to do the best. But I do need Ghost Riders.
Starting point is 00:06:56 You're right about that. I was talking to Kev one time. Kev said every two years is good for stand-up. But then you look at people like Chris Rock. It seems like he do one every 10, 15. Yeah, he just drops it at his leisure. I think it's like every four or five years with Chris Rock. But then, you know, he's really technical about his shit. I mean, I think Kev, I mean, Kev is just, Kev puts out like, he's a machine. He's got his, you know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:07:25 Like, my sister, you know what I'm saying? My sister will go with me on the road. If I say something, like, she'll be like, remember you said this and everything. And, you know, Kev got, like, a few of those people who understand his voice that do that for him. Like, you know. So your sister is your ghostwriter? She's not my ghostwriter. Okay.
Starting point is 00:07:42 She's not my ghostwriter. I ain't saying anything. I ain't even my ghostwriter. Stop making things up. She's not my ghostwriter. I ain't saying anything. I ain't even saying ghostwriter. I'm just saying, like, when you have somebody on the road that you, you know what I mean? Can bounce off. Can bounce off ideas and stuff. Like, you come up with it, you know. Does it make you respect other people less?
Starting point is 00:07:57 Like, I know a lot of comics have people that do write with them and write jokes for them. Do you think that takes away from the craft of it or is it just, look, whatever is the end result is. Um, it doesn't like, nah, I don't think it takes respect.
Starting point is 00:08:14 Like you have to, you can't, you cannot go far without a strong team around you. You have to have that. That's something like strategic. Like you all are a team. You feel me? You need that.
Starting point is 00:08:30 And you need a strong support system because I mean the world is up man people will people will say you know i mean make you second guess yourself so as long as you got like good positive people around you who want to see you win like you'll be fine there's so many things that happen in real life that i'm like this would be great in someone's stand-up that you can't like you don't even got to make things up you don't got to watch fiction there's stand-up that you can't, like, you don't even gotta make things up. You don't gotta watch fiction. There's so many things that happen in real life that would be, like, the other day. Mm-hmm. This might be inappropriate.
Starting point is 00:08:51 What, Hulk Hogan? Is that what you're talking about? No, no, no, it's just something else. Some, um... What? It's about, what is it about? Well, it's about, I was, uh, I do this podcast,
Starting point is 00:08:59 and I had a guest, she's a transgender. Oh. And a lot of guys are in her DM. Like, you know, guys, like, look just like you, look like Charlamagne. Sorry, Jade. I told her not to bring this up, but she said you was in her DM. I didn't.
Starting point is 00:09:15 It wasn't you. It definitely wasn't me. But it's some guys that I, you know, just, you would never think if you just look at him, you would be like, okay, maybe one of my friends would talk to him. And this one guy sent a video of himself. I didn't believe her until she showed it to me. He was actually masturbating and he was in his own face on this video. And then he couldn't see to press stop. So he's like blinded. And he's trying to press stop record.
Starting point is 00:09:45 And she had this video that he sent. I was like, wow, that's amazing that somebody would send you something like this and really think this would be like a way to try to, you know, hook up later. Have you ever sent anything crazy? Damn. I've never sent, I ain't never sent something with me masturbating. I ain't never jacked off and booked a whole face. That's fine.
Starting point is 00:10:05 Get yourself a face shot. That's fucked up. You gave yourself a face shot? That's fucked up. I couldn't believe it. Oh, my gosh. But have you ever sent something out and regretted it and been like, man, I shouldn't have sent that to that guy? You know what? I'm so smart.
Starting point is 00:10:14 I make sure. Even if I'm sending a pic, if I send you a picture, if I send a pic, my face is not in that. So you do send them. The hell you sending pics for, Jay? Listen, man. Listen, man. Why am I sending? Listen, man. I didn't send. Listen. Why the fuck? I'm not My face is not in there So you send them The hell you sending Pics for Listen man Listen man Why am I
Starting point is 00:10:26 Listen man I didn't Listen Why the Wait a second Let's rewind Let's rewind Okay
Starting point is 00:10:33 Those are my younger days Okay that was How do you take that picture Cause there's a proper way To do that And we talk about this too What's the How do you take a picture
Starting point is 00:10:41 Do you take it This angle going down Or coming up Nah you can't or coming up? No, you can't do coming up. Coming up, you're going to shoot your face. You can't do that. No, I'm taking a picture.
Starting point is 00:10:48 Oh, okay. You got to shoot it from, you know what I mean, waist. You got to shoot waist down. You know what I'm saying? You send it top, it just waist up. You know what I mean? That's how you do it. And you prepare like shave and everything, lotion. Too many people know you to be sending some goddamn pictures.
Starting point is 00:11:02 No, no, no. And this is not no recent stuff. Like, this is like back in the day before everything. Circumcision. Yeah, well, I definitely. Yeah, I wasn't circumcised. I finally cut the skin off. No, this was like when I was.
Starting point is 00:11:19 Chubby days. Chubby days. Oh, you. Oh. Because you was on that. Yeah. He's a little bigger. No, he used to be like. Yeah. chubby days oh you know I was no I was a big-ass kid was your biggest 250 250 I'm usually about 140 now right no one's right well taken um okay taking you know
Starting point is 00:11:39 crack I'm like 188 okay actually since the last time y'all saw me, I've actually lost like 20 pounds. Yeah, you look smaller and smaller. You know. When do you stop? You said when or what? When are you going to stop? Are you done now? Listen, man.
Starting point is 00:11:54 I got to. You know what I mean? It's all about the ab. It's all about the ab presentation. So when you see that god dang chiseling, when I can go do a damn show and I can throw my shirt out in the audience, and the woman, ah, that's when the fuck I start. So how were you taking penis pictures from up here? How?
Starting point is 00:12:11 If your stomach was in the way. No, listen. No, no, because I had lost weight. This is what happened. When I was 17, I lost weight. Look, I was up there. Okay, so I took, okay, I'm sitting down. Look, I'm not going to give you everything.
Starting point is 00:12:25 What was he about to do? I took the penis pics from right here, down here. Oh, from under your stomach, you said? No, yes, from under my stomach. Okay. It was under the fat, under the stretch marks. You know what I mean? That's a good excuse, though, because if you're fat and somebody walk in on you,
Starting point is 00:12:40 you'd be like, I don't see what my dick look like. I don't know what it looks like. I'm going to take pictures of it so I can see what it looks like. They say that your penis gets bigger, too, when you lose weight. Is that true? You'd be like, I don't see what my dick look like. I don't know what it looks like. I'm just taking pictures of it so I can see what it look like. They say that your penis gets bigger, too, when you lose weight. Is that true? What you answering?
Starting point is 00:12:50 Yeah, boy. I thought y'all brother and sister. Stop it. I've heard that. They said whatever. They put it on 15,000. They said it gets bigger. Is that true?
Starting point is 00:13:02 Well, I guess I did notice an extension. Now I'm thinking about it. Yeah, but when you fat, man, you ain't worried about your size because you ain't getting no ass for real. If you ain't got no confidence, you jerking off. That's why you had to take them pictures. You got to do what you got to do. Yeah, you got to do.
Starting point is 00:13:18 You got to send what you got to send. Actually, you on that damn catfish. Actually, that was back in the days of MySpace. You catfished someone? I did. I got catfished. Oh, okay. I got catfished when I was 20.
Starting point is 00:13:32 It was crazy. What happened? Did somebody use your picture? Nah. I was talking. I thought I was talking to this John in California. And, you know, I knew something was wrong because she liked Arthur that was her favorite show
Starting point is 00:13:46 and she would say and she would say things like listen I'm on my thing this month what you mean your period why you just call it your period no girl says that well it wasn't a dude but come to find out
Starting point is 00:13:59 this girl was like she was you know I had never met her but found out she was younger than she said she was, and she sent me this long message, I lied about this, I lied about that,
Starting point is 00:14:09 and the only thing I didn't lie about was my feelings for you and all this bullshit. I was just like, yo. How old was she? Twelve. Yeah. She was twelve. I didn't know.
Starting point is 00:14:20 She never had her thing. I didn't know. It was not like you Tiger and was all DJing. Yeah, I didn't. But you were had her thing. I didn't know. It was not like you Tiger and was out dating. Yeah, I didn't. But you were 20. How old is she now? She had, well, now she was. You guys stay in touch?
Starting point is 00:14:31 I mean, no, I don't talk to her now. I don't talk to her, but the girl she impersonated. You talked to the person? We're actually friends now. What? This is some crazy. That's amazing. Yeah, it's crazy.
Starting point is 00:14:42 That's one of those, I'm going to get me. Okay. I'm going to get me. Where. I'm going to get me. Where the real girl at? I'm trying something. Hey, man. And it turned out she had a boyfriend and all that shit. But I was like, all right, that's what's up.
Starting point is 00:14:52 But they're real cool and shit, man. But that situation was just totally awkward and weird. What made you lose weight? I just, I was depressed, man. I was depressed man I was depressed You know I was depressed for about What age was I
Starting point is 00:15:10 It was from You talking to the mic From six Oh I'm sorry I was depressed from like six to To pretty much seventeen But like I said at twelve At six you recognized depression
Starting point is 00:15:21 I mean it was Because I had came back. This is what happened, all right? So I was skinny. I came up to New York when I was six years old. I stayed with my aunts for like the whole summer. And you know, they're a little heavier. And I got fat.
Starting point is 00:15:36 Then I came back home and I was taking a shower. And the water used to run straight down my back. And then when I was taking a shower at that point, it was shooting off my back. And then I say, why the fuck is everything getting wet? And I look behind me, and I got this big-ass, big-ass Nicki Minaj booty. You had a big butt? I still, yeah, this shit was awful.
Starting point is 00:15:58 My mom was crying. I actually had an ass that made my mom cry. An onion? She literally cried when she seen my ass. Right now. It's a, I mean, it's fitting. You know what I'm saying? Listen, I got a little bit.
Starting point is 00:16:07 You still kind of have a big butt. Direct it towards you, please. You know what I'm saying? Child man got a big butt, too, though. I do have a big butt. Really? He does. He does.
Starting point is 00:16:15 Oh, we stay. I do. I mean, it's a little. I lost a little bit of it. I lost it, too. I worked out, but I do have a little. Yeah. You guys got to chill in them squats.
Starting point is 00:16:24 Listen, man. The squats, yeah. The squats, oh, my God. That's what they Yeah. You guys got to chill in them squats. Listen, man. The squats. Yeah, the squats. Oh, my God. That's what they be saying. The squats are the thing. Just make you expand. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:16:33 I had. Listen, I remember I was in church and I went to church. And this is where I lost weight, right? Because the lady, she used to talk about me all the time. Her name was Sister. What's her name, Shayna? Sister. Sister Claude.
Starting point is 00:16:44 Yep. Sister Claude. OK. So Sister Claude looked at me one day when i came back to church she was like i remember one time you was fat like like it's a sickness or some like you can catch it like i got the fat you know i'm saying i was like yeah i remember one time you remember but do you that's what thing you remembered so dementia yeah dementia out this bitch i was yo man so let me talk about this though because rob kardashian is so big and i'm But that's one thing you remembered so far. Dementia. Yeah, dementia. I'm just a bitch. I was, yo, man. Man, y'all let me talk about this, though, because Rob Kardashian is so big. And I'm like, well, he's probably depressed.
Starting point is 00:17:11 It's hard to lose weight when you're that big. It's not that easy. And he's like, just lose weight. Just lose weight. But it's not that easy. I did. I looked in the mirror when I was 17, and I actually was just like, I hate this. I don't like this.
Starting point is 00:17:24 Like, I'm going to lose weight. And then somehow, four months, I lost 75 pounds in four months. Sheesh. Yeah. I went, yeah. That's what you do, start smoking crack? What did you do? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:17:37 Cardio and crack. Cardio and crack was CeCe. Don't tell people to smoke crack to lose weight. You got to do what you got to do. Listen, man, take some hydroxycut, aka crack. That's all you gotta do. So you did take
Starting point is 00:17:48 hydroxycut, though? No, not to lose weight. No, no, no, no. It was all like, I ate nothing but like a little plate of barbecue and I had eight.
Starting point is 00:17:57 And somehow, it just, yeah. My homeboy looked at me, he was like, the fuck happened to you? Especially, you was in Virginia, too. They probably thought you had AIDS.
Starting point is 00:18:06 They probably thought you was on drugs. Because it's Virginia? No. I'm from the country down south. When you see somebody losing weight, first thing you say is, you sick? Yeah, you got the germ? What's wrong with you? You got the germ?
Starting point is 00:18:17 Nah, man. I ain't got no germ, man. It's just, yeah. But they do. They didn't know who the fuck I was. And, yeah. So you knew your depression stemmed from the weight. You knew that. Definitely. I knew it was like that was it. That's the biggest that was the biggest thing, man.
Starting point is 00:18:31 That's the thing that held back the confidence and everything. It was the fact that, you know, everybody talked about me, like even in my family. I didn't get away from it. Like my uncles, even sometimes even my parents, man. I mean, and they don't mean to say stuff but it's just family you know when you feel like you can't get away from it you know you can either you can either lose it or you could lose your life some people but I was about to say some people some people aren't as fortunate as I am you know with the mindset and they don't have that you know that strive they just give up and if you give't have that, you know, that strive.
Starting point is 00:19:05 They just give up. And if you give up, like, that's it. That's your life, man. Is anything causing you depression now? Because I would think that, I mean, because you have a lot of pressure with SNL. I mean, it's pressure. I mean, every week people are critiquing the show.
Starting point is 00:19:16 They're writing reviews. You know, it can be hard for the new guy. And so you're submitting ideas for sketches that aren't getting picked up all the time. Because all the writers are submitting. You know, Jay-Z said, I just read a magazine that effed up my day. You ever read a review and was like, man. I mean, you read negative reviews all the time.
Starting point is 00:19:36 I mean, as long as it's not the majority, then just don't pay attention to it. I mean, if it's the majority, then switch some shit up. But if not, man, you know, and, you know, people have their different points of view. I know there's going to be
Starting point is 00:19:48 some people that love the special, there's going to be some people that talk shit about it. I mean, either way, like,
Starting point is 00:19:53 if it's mixed reviews, as long as it's the majority, you work for those people. Right. So, you know, I know they said, I've read before that
Starting point is 00:19:59 at SNL, it's really hard for black writers and the black sketch comics to get their sketches picked up in particular. Here's the thing about it is, I mean, SNL is pretty much geared towards a certain audience. And, you know, they have a type and a brand of funny. And we on the show now, I think it's expanded expanded but just because that's just what the show does
Starting point is 00:20:27 the show evolves so i feel like the show has um has evolved in the years where it's not as hard as it was to get um certain things on because we have uh people on the staff that can uh kind of massage those um ideas and push them along but um yeah, man, it's hard because it's that audience. You know what I mean? It's not the BET. It's them white people in the Midwest. It's not the world star hip-hop. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:20:55 Like, you know, ain't no twerk. I mean, what is twerk? You know what I'm saying? Like, you have to explain it. Do you think SNL is funny? I think SNL is funny. I mean, I genuinely laugh at things. I mean, you're not going to say everything.
Starting point is 00:21:07 Everything is not funny because everything is not funny. But I think the show does a good job, and it's actually, you know, it's kept up with pop culture to this point. Yeah, I feel like it's clever. What do y'all think? Do y'all like the show? No. What?
Starting point is 00:21:23 I don't. I like certain moments. Yeah, I was going to say, the show has its moments. Overall, that's another very dry. But some of it isn't geared toward me. And I can tell that. And the stuff that is geared toward me, I see it on Worldstar. That's like a good case.
Starting point is 00:21:38 I mean, funny is funny. It's not even about like, of course, when you do the Kanye West skits, Kim Kardashian, everybody can relate to that because it's pop culture. But just overall, it's just like, yeah, it course, when you do the Kanye West skits, Kim Kardashian, everybody can relate to that because it's pop culture. But just overall, it's just like, yeah, it's very hit or miss. And a lot of times it misses. With you. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:21:53 With me, personally. Yeah. You know? But you, yeah. I'm an a**hole. I mean, yeah. But funny is funny, like you said. It is.
Starting point is 00:22:03 I just don't find, you know. That's true. I mean, you just, I mean, that's the thing, man. You get so many different points of view on the show, like, as far as people's taste in comedy. So, you know, you kind of get used to seeing things and you kind of learn how to learn what they're talking about. And then you kind of like, oh, okay, that's funny. I see why that's funny. It's hard to please everyone, though. It's definitely hard to please everybody, man.
Starting point is 00:22:27 I mean, shush. I don't know that guy. When I was up here last year, y'all played, not last year, but y'all played some shush from the MTV Awards. I remember that. I remember that interview. I remember. Yeah, exactly.
Starting point is 00:22:39 I remember that. What did you do at the MTV Awards? That Kanye shush. And then you tweeted your shush. And then, yes, you say so much shit, Charlamagne. Don't forget who he gives Donkey the day to. You forget who he gives him. Now, what's the ultimate goal for you, Jay Pharoah?
Starting point is 00:22:54 I mean, obviously, it would be great for you to have your own TV show. I mean, you branching off now. You have the special that's coming out this weekend on Showtime. Mm-hmm. You in the top five. Definitely. right along. I mean, the goal is just to... I mean, Hollywood is definitely the goal,
Starting point is 00:23:11 to do movies and things of that sort, which I'm doing. But it's, I mean, just to make people feel better about themselves, man. That's what I want to continue to do in any type of way possible. It's nothing better than going to a show and somebody making you forget about, you know, I mean, a death that happened in the family. I just I mean, I just lost my cousin two weeks ago.
Starting point is 00:23:33 Nah, man. I mean, he was on a he was on a motorcycle and he was coming over to St. Petersburg Bridge. And, you know, he he tried to stop him by that time. It was too late. He had already, you know, he had already stop him. By that time, it was too late. He had already hit McCartney, revived him, and then he just, they lost him again. Sorry to hear that. Yeah, well, thank you.
Starting point is 00:23:53 He was 7'5", man. He was 7'5". And I'm thinking in my head. I don't know if you're playing or not. No, no, no. No, no, no. This is real. This is real.
Starting point is 00:24:01 7'5"? He was 7'5". And wasn't in the NBA? No. Like, he had hurt his, I think he injured his knee or something. Which I'm sure happens when you're that tall. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:24:12 So, I'm thinking in my head, man, I'm like, yo, I ain't going to be able to see my cousin again, man. But the comedian was like, yo, how are we going to get him in a casket? Like, yo, he is seven foot five. We're going to have to fold him up and like i called my aunt and my aunt said yo we burned them but we they couldn't fit the uh the ashes in the urn so they had to have a custom-made urn for him you know what i'm saying so he's seven foot five they had a custom-made urn from him though so you know uh but yeah you know so i i know about tragedy so you know i just
Starting point is 00:24:44 want to make people feel better, man. You had a twin brother, too, that died at birth, right? Yeah. He passed away. He didn't make it. I don't think the world was ready for two of us, though. There would have been some crazy shit for two of us. Also, they didn't put that in there on the site or on the Wikipedia.
Starting point is 00:25:00 I was actually watching this earlier, watching you impersonate Nikki and Drake earlier. Oh, you saw that shit yeah yeah yeah did you like it um yeah okay that didn't sound convincing what you didn't know
Starting point is 00:25:14 what you didn't know about me when I was well I was premature but I was light skinned I had straight hair gray eyes what no ass
Starting point is 00:25:23 and now look at you look at me now. You would never think that that was the same. I was light-skinned. With gray eyes? I have no clue. I was light-skinned. Are you sure that was it?
Starting point is 00:25:35 Huh? Yeah, with gray eyes. Are you sure that was you? I'm positive. No, I was not. No, I darkened. I mean, they darkened, but hell, yeah, that was me. You said you trans-beige.
Starting point is 00:25:43 You had a light-skinned man living inside you or something? Yeah, I had a white man. I guess it was a white man. My ass was white for like at least three months, and then it just changed over. But, you know. What was your opinion on Rachel Dolezal since we're talking about how you used to be white?
Starting point is 00:26:02 The girl, right? This is the girl? The transracial. I didn't know i thought i thought i thought she was mixed right i've messed with it i used to mess with a mixed girl so i thought she was mixed i was like this chick just has nice curly hair that's what it is do i think do i think her family like uh uh this like like trying to distance himself from her is cool. Like, no. But is she full?
Starting point is 00:26:27 Like, if you can't. I mean, it ain't tricking. Jay's like, I'd smash her. I'll tell you what I think of her. You know what I mean? What do you think about Bill Cosby? Is that in your? Do you know Bill?
Starting point is 00:26:42 No. Is that going to be in your stand-up? No. No. I'm not allowed to talk about him because he's NBC. You don't touch. I don't touch the Bill Cosby thing. I mean, and at that time, I mean, everybody knew about the stories and everything.
Starting point is 00:26:55 Like, even before Hannibal said something, I knew about the stories. I heard about it. I remember 30 Rock made a joke about it one time. A lot of people made jokes about it. I mean, it's been something that's been out there for a long time, but I just... I feel like
Starting point is 00:27:11 there's a lot of booty out here and you shouldn't have to drug it. Especially if you Bill Cosby! Right. Jesus Christ, he got all the fame, all the money. Like, who wouldn't want to give Bill Cosby some... Exactly. I mean, Yee, would you? I definitely wouldn't want to give Bill Cosby some money? Exactly. I mean, Yee, would you? I definitely wouldn't want to do that.
Starting point is 00:27:27 You wouldn't? No. I mean, not now, but in the past. Yeah, before, though, would you have? No, I don't think so. I'm around a lot of famous people. That don't mean I want to get him some booty. You ain't never been around no Bill Cosby.
Starting point is 00:27:38 Yeah. Actually, I have been around Bill Cosby. That's a different level of fame. Thank you very much. I interviewed him. He had on Crocs. What did he do? Really?
Starting point is 00:27:44 Yee, what did he do to you? He was in the studio, so I was fine. I Thank you very much. I interviewed him. He on Crocs. What did he do? What did he do to you? He was in the studio, so I was fine. I felt safe and secure. Uh-huh. I didn't have any issues with Bill Cosby. He didn't touch you, ye? Not at all. He didn't mess with your aquafina, ye?
Starting point is 00:28:00 No, I was fine. Okay, well, cool. That's what's up then. I thought I was going to get it. But it does bother me that people try to say, well, what was that woman doing there with him in the first place? Just because you're there doesn't mean somebody has the right to drug you and, you know, whatever happens.
Starting point is 00:28:14 That is very true, but it makes it much easier. It does make it easier. It's speaking from experience. Yeah. No, Charlamagne had a case. I did. I had a case before. What?
Starting point is 00:28:24 It was years ago. What did you do? 2000. This is your left room. It was criminal sexual conduct. What are you doing raping people? I didn't rape nobody. Jesus Christ.
Starting point is 00:28:36 Wait a minute. Charlamagne, what did you... Okay, so what was it? It was a party. It was a party that I threw. This already sounds crazy. She got drunk and high. And some of my dudes ran a train on her.
Starting point is 00:28:49 And one of the dudes was saying his name was Charlemagne in the room. Like, yo, telling her, be easy, be easy, it's Charlemagne. Whatever, whatever. So she said. I don't know if that's true or not. But long story short, I got arrested for rape two weeks later. So I had to get blood and hair samples. You had a ghost f***ing, that's what you're at. No, it wasn't.
Starting point is 00:29:07 She got smashed. It wasn't by me. That's what I'm saying. You had a ghost f***er. Somebody said your name. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. That was her story. You know what I'm saying? I don't know if that's true or not, but she did get smashed,
Starting point is 00:29:24 but it wasn't by me. You know, that's the bad thing about rape. You're guilty until you prove yourself innocent. So then they reduced the charges to contributing to the delinquency of a minor. Oh, and she was a minor? I was 20, she was 16. That's why you're all for this whole Kylie Jenner thing. She was 20, I was 16.
Starting point is 00:29:42 Oh, so you kind of, so. Wait, she was 20 and you were 16? I was 20, i was 16 so you oh so you you kind of so wait she was 20 and you were 16 i was 20 she was 16 so the collie so the collie jenner thing because you're talking about you so you don't well my stance on the collie jenner thing is why are you interviewing him talk about this he can impersonate me imperson Ask me the question. As you? Yes. Okay, Solomon. So, the college genesis is wasting. It's all the college genesis is wasting.
Starting point is 00:30:15 So, what do you feel about that? Well, you know, I feel like, you know, she's 17. 17 is legal in a lot of states. So, is it a moral issue of Tiger being wrong or a moral issue of Tiger being wrong or a legal issue of Tiger being wrong? Because if he was dating her in New York, he'd be fine. Seinfeld dated a 16-year-old when he was like 30-something.
Starting point is 00:30:33 Charlamagne. Charlamagne. I really believe that. I honestly believe that you're sick. You shouldn't do that. That lisp. If a person is 16 years old, they're definitely underage. Him and Russell Simmons is the same.
Starting point is 00:30:47 I'm going to tell you, the only difference between Charlamagne and Russell Simmons is that Russell Simmons can say words like strawberry and straight and street. I'm from the country, baby. You say strawberry. Street, strong, strawberry. He can't say it. Solomon. You do sound like Russell Simmons.
Starting point is 00:31:04 I guess you sound like Russell Simmons I guess you sound like Russell Simmons I'm trying to do I'm trying to do The best way I can It's Russell Simmons Or J.B. Smoove He does sound like
Starting point is 00:31:13 J.B. Smoove Now J.B. Smoove Be like Oh come on player I'm putting a little Come on player Now Now we want to talk about
Starting point is 00:31:19 Now Now Solomay I feel like it's fun To do this like this So I'm going to do it like this Solomay When it comes to When it comes to underage booty, have you had a heaping portion of underage booty? Okay.
Starting point is 00:31:38 A heaping portion. When I say heaping portion, I mean more than five people. When you say underage, what age are we talking about? You're underage. Kelly, especially now, Kelly, when you say underage. That age are we talking about? Underage? Kelly's special. Kelly said, when you say. That's how we knew this.
Starting point is 00:31:49 Did it. What do you mean underage? He said, nah. When you say underage. Backstage. Underage. I've never messed with underage, girl. Okay. That you know of.
Starting point is 00:31:58 No, I've never messed with underage. I mean, I have, but I just got catfished by the mother. I mean, I learned from those experiences early when you would see people get caught up with undead girls. Like, bro, check the ID, bro. Yeah. It's just that simple. So you check people's ID? Yeah, you damn right.
Starting point is 00:32:14 I remember Sean Mahan is one girl. Uh-oh. She had on pantyhose at the pool. She had on stockings? She was just 24 from the Bronx. No, she definitely looked younger than that. She came to the pool wearing pantyhose and a full face of makeup. Why would you have?
Starting point is 00:32:31 But that's a sign right there. Why do you have on pantyhose and full face makeup by the pool? She didn't know no better. She's been in the Bronx, no, Brooklyn all her life. Oh, my God. Then she came out and said, I look better than all these girls here. I mean, she did physically, just not with the wardrobe and all that. Charlamagne, are you the type of nigga that judges?
Starting point is 00:32:49 I don't know. Are you the type of dude that judges, like, for instance, you'd be like, look, her face is 24. Listen, her body is 24, but her face is 60. Are you one of them? Nah, like, I'm more of a pretty face guy. This is how I knew that she wasn't old enough. She doesn't know how to use tampons.
Starting point is 00:33:05 She only used pads. Who said that? Remember she didn't have her pads? She didn't have nothing. She said she left her pads. She didn't have anything. She didn't use tampons. I don't know if it was pads.
Starting point is 00:33:17 She had no use tampons. She just said she needed her something because her period was on. Maxi pads. Yeah. Penny holes. I'm going to show her period was on. Maxi pads. Yeah. Penny holes. I'm going to show it to you. She's a grown-ass woman. I'm going to show it to you.
Starting point is 00:33:30 Penny holes, my nigga, in full makeup. This was years ago, though. By the pool. This is like all this shit that happened to Charlamagne's years ago. He would do this shit now. That's years. That's not years? Let me show you something.
Starting point is 00:33:40 I want to see it. I'm going to show it to you. I'm going to show it to you. I'm going to show it to you. Don't put it on camera now. I'm married now. This is back in my olden days. Oh, shit. I know.
Starting point is 00:33:51 She took a shower with her bra on and underwear. I know. Oh, shit. I know. I mean, I don't condone it. Look. I know. I don't condone it, but I understand.
Starting point is 00:34:07 I don't condone it, but I understand. I don't condone it, but I understand. I get it. Did you see the bottles that Drake sent Charlamagne? He sent him six bottles of Dom P. Didn't he say that in the track? He was going to send you some. Oh, my God. Are y'all friends now?
Starting point is 00:34:22 The card says, let's be friends. Aubrey Graham. Aubrey Graham Aubrey Graham Now if you were Jake What would you say To Charlamagne right now? I mean I feel
Starting point is 00:34:33 You know I feel like You know Charlamagne is like We've had beef over the years But you know I feel like We could be friends now man
Starting point is 00:34:41 Like you know As long as you're not meek Like I'm cool with you Like that's like the whole It's like the whole World You know what I mean know as long as you're not meek like i'm cool with you like that's like the whole it's like the whole world you know i mean like as long as you're not him yeah i mean long as you don't rap like this because you know that's what mcmill be rapping like he screams when he's but you rap i do spit so and from your mc perspective we're gonna win this battle what you think man listen what you think you think? Listen, man. Drake is a better lyricist than Meek Mill. That is true.
Starting point is 00:35:10 Meek Mill is about presence and delivery on his tracks. That's what it is. It's not like lyricism. It's not lyrical. I mean, he's got good songs, but he's like, as far as lyrics with Drake, Drake is lyrical. See, the reason lyrics don't matter to me, though, I'm not going to say they don't matter. What?
Starting point is 00:35:26 Come on, man. But in a battle, Hit Em Up wasn't the greatest lyrical record. But it had, okay, yeah. You know what I'm saying? Right. But did Big ever respond? Big never responded to that shit, though. Nah, he never did.
Starting point is 00:35:39 Yeah, that's true, too. And Big was a way better, Big was a better lyricist than Pac was. Pac was a storyteller, and he had aggression and presence and delivery. That's, Mill has presence, delivery, and aggression. So it's like when you're going against, but Drake has, Drake has delivery and aggression too in some of his tracks. So it's like, he's got everything. And he can pronounce and enunciate. So when he says, is this your girl's tour or your –
Starting point is 00:36:07 is this a world tour or your girl's tour? You hear it so clear and precise. Yeah, man. Yeah. Yeah. So I think Drake – I think Drake is going to – Part of it is we can't say because we haven't heard Meek say anything yet. I don't even know if it matters at this point.
Starting point is 00:36:22 But didn't – wait a minute. But Cass already killed Meek though. Like Cass killed him on a 10 minute diss. He was just rapping. It was like, yo Meek man, you a cockroach man. You know what I'm saying? Like you a cockroach man. Nobody talks to cockroaches.
Starting point is 00:36:36 You know what I'm saying? Yeah. Like so when you, and Cass is lyrical. Yeah. It's the same thing. I think it's going to be the same damn situation. R.R. Meek could rise to the occasion and record something ether-like. It's a long shot, maybe.
Starting point is 00:36:51 I'm hoping. I'm keeping hope alive for the boy, man. You keeping hope alive for the boy, but your best friend just sent you Don Perignon. He's not my best friend, but- Meek wouldn't even give you $100. That is true. He would not even give me a hundred dollars but i think the quote the exact quote is uh the enemy of my enemy is my friend so i guess me and drake have some mutual enemies so i i remember i so let's be friends
Starting point is 00:37:19 i remember the damn i remember the slander and all that shit that y'all used to have, man. I was like, why the fuck? He, not y'all. I mean, like, I mean, but you always used to talk about. Mine always came from a musical standpoint, though. No, man, you put up a picture. That did not. Don't lie. You put up a picture.
Starting point is 00:37:35 When you called him a princess boy, was that from a musical standpoint? He called me a nerd. That's not, okay. What's wrong with being a nerd? All right, I had to show him, I had to show, what's more nerdier than this? Isn't your name LeNerd? You look like Jay Pharoah back in the day trying to take penis pics with your shirt off.
Starting point is 00:37:50 Okay. And that might have motivated him. He's in shape now. Yeah. You know? But other than that, it all came from a musical standpoint. No, you call them a thumb with eyebrows. That's not musical.
Starting point is 00:38:02 That's not musical. I mean. That's not from a musical standpoint charlamagne listen charlamagne man i've noticed some changes with you charlamagne oh that's kidding your face first of all you a lot like because remember you're like jay farrow when he was a baby i just was real real dark. I had discoloration, so I had dark patches right here. I remember because I was like, yo. I literally asked you.
Starting point is 00:38:30 I was literally concerned. I said, yo, do you have diabetes? Like, are you good? You have jaundice. You have jaundice. Like, what's wrong with you? It was discoloration. It was just discoloration.
Starting point is 00:38:41 Discoloration in my lifestyle was really bad. Like, I was eating bad. I was drinking all the time. But now look at you. You got dagging. You didn't pull the Sammy Sosa. You damn right. I started going to see a dermatologist.
Starting point is 00:38:52 Started eating right. Lost 20 pounds. He loves Sosa. Hey, I did the same shit. But he's still the same color. Lined up your eyebrows. No, no. These always been the same.
Starting point is 00:39:01 I don't know where that came from. Them shits, you got RuPaul eyebrows. Them shits are perfect. They've been the same for years.'t know where that came from. I don't know. You got RuPaul eyebrows. Them shits are perfect. They've been the same for years. They just really stand out now, I guess, now that you fill them in with brow liner. There ain't no brow liner. You can lick them.
Starting point is 00:39:14 It's all natural. Did you ask him to lick your eyebrows? No. There's a lot of pause moments happening right now. Well, J-Brow is going to be on Showtime, his special Can I Be Me? It's going to be fun. It's going to be airing August 1st at 10 p.m.
Starting point is 00:39:26 Yes, baby. So we'll be making sure we're tuning in to that. I have fun hanging out with you, too. Oh, that's this weekend? Yeah. Yeah, man. It's Saturday. All right, okay.
Starting point is 00:39:33 That's a nice little Saturday date. Oh, and I got to watch Power first, though. I have fun with you. I'll record you and then come back. I appreciate you. You two big booty boys. Oh, yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:39:42 Oh, really? And when do you see the SNL start? It starts in the fall, yeah. When do the new season of SNL start? It starts, it starts in the fall, man. So it's, you know, we're about to go back in a little bit.
Starting point is 00:39:50 So, yeah, I can't wait, man. It's going to be fun. How my boy Pete Davidson doing, man? Pete's cool,
Starting point is 00:39:55 man. I know you got a lot, because you and him used to work with each other. Yeah, we used to do a guy code together. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:40:01 That's my little bro right there. Nah, yeah, Pete is a cool dude, man. And, you know, I mean, that's one of the people on the show that, you know, I hang with because we're so bro right there. Nah, yeah. Pete is a cool dude, man. And you know, I mean, that's one of the people on the show that I hang with
Starting point is 00:40:07 because we're so close in age. That's my peer. And he's a good dude. And he's doing great. Absolutely. Jay Pharoah. Stand-up special when? Saturday? Saturday, August 1st. Can I Be Me is the name. Make sure you check that out.
Starting point is 00:40:24 No, you can't be me. You need to be everybody else. Impersonate people. Let's see. But I do. I do and I'm myself. That's the thing. You know what I mean?
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