The Breakfast Club - JESS WITH THE MESS: Diddy Apologizes After Video Of Him Assaulting Cassie Surfaces
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Morning everybody, it's DJ and V, Justin Larry, Charlamagne Tha God, we are The Breakfast Club.
Now if you're just joining us, we're taking your phone calls, 800-585-1051.
We're talking about the footage of Diddy abusing Cassie and beating Cassie that was released over the weekend.
And his apology after that.
And we just opened up the phone lines to get your thoughts.
We've we've heard so many.
We've we've a lot of us have read Cassie's lawsuit, which was pulled and a lot of this was in it.
So we just pretty much asking, what are your thoughts?
Let's start with you, Jess.
I think it's disgusting.
I think it's crazy to know.
I mean, like to actually see that.
I mean, we've heard rumors and things like that. You know what I'm saying? like to actually see that i mean we've heard rumors and things like that you
know what i'm saying but um to actually see it and then for it to be of that magnitude right like
in which i still hold that to be light like to think about behind closed doors at home you know
and and then even leading up to her running out like because she really was
like gone you know what i mean like she she was trying to get away one sock on like she
she was running you know what i mean so it's disgusting and then i feel for her having to
relive that yeah and and then other things this is probably like like just even light to her like
man y'all really don't know what i went through, you know, speaking as her.
So I feel like I don't believe nothing he's saying.
I just feel like, yeah, it's definitely time for him to go to jail.
I mean, well, he's not going to go to jail for that because of it.
Yeah, but this is only the beginning of things that we're about to see.
Like, there's so many things that's about to unfold.
I feel that personally, like like this is just one little video
that's about to spark it off and you know what i agree with you it was it was disgusting it was
hard to watch hard to look at um and me having six kids four daughters you just think if any man or
somebody put their hands on your daughter like that what would you want to do what would you
want to happen to them? And it's sad.
And Diddy, as you can see,
he's going through problems or whatever it may be.
But I really feel bad for Cassie.
Like you said, this is brought back up.
And another reason I feel bad for Cassie
is because when this lawsuit came out,
a lot of people didn't believe her.
Yeah.
You know, a lot of people were joking her.
A lot of people said it's just a cash grab.
A lot of people didn't necessarily come to her defense
at that time because
we just didn't have all the evidence
or all the details. And that's not her
own fault. I mean, I think that's
your approach shouldn't be to joke her, but your
approach doesn't have to be to pick a side
in those situations because we don't know.
All we know, this is an allegation.
It's an accusation. And this is what we always say.
Listen to everybody, but you
believe all proof
believe the facts
this video is proof
hands down proof
and it is just
so disgusting
and a lot of people
I see were looking
at Diddy as a
we talked about it
early as a superhero
and that's why
I always say
a lot of times
a celebrity
you respect their business
you respect them
as an artist
but they're human
and we don't know
what goes on
behind closed doors
but it was disgusting it was heartfelt I mean not heartfelt but it hurt my heart watching that
and i watched it with my oldest daughter and i watched it with my wife and we were just sitting
there like i can't believe it like that somebody would do that to somebody that they say they love
yeah think about it because she was on the floor passed out she looked lifeless and he was kicking
her lifeless it wasn't like she wasn't fighting back
she was just laying there and that's somebody that somebody says that they love yeah that's a
tough one yeah yeah i got a bunch of emotions but the main emotion uh i always get when i see a man
putting hands on a woman in this way it's just disgusting disappointment like you know yeah did
he need his ass beat like i wish cassie would have had a gun on her and would have shot him right
there on the spot.
Like, that's my initial reaction,
because that's how I always feel
when I see situations like this.
And then there's this weird sense of grief
that sets in, because Diddy is a hip-hop hero.
Diddy is an ordinary person
who did extraordinary things, you know,
from hip-hop culture.
So to sit here and act like this man
wasn't a huge part of our upbringing,
that would just be me lying to myself.
So there's this weird sense of grief, like another one of our heroes
has ruined their legacy, and it's his own fault because of poor choices.
And when will people really start doing the work on themselves?
Like this man was 46 years old when this happened.
I thought he was 48.
You were 2016?
Yeah, 2016.
I don't know. I thought when I did the math he was 46 i thought i did 48 but back then you thought he was 46
he was an older man yeah i'll be 46 next month so my whole thing is like at what point do people
really start doing the work on themselves at what point do people start stop lying to themselves
like he knows all the issues he has
he knows whether
it's substance abuse
whether it's
I don't
whatever he's dealing with
he knows
he knows how he's
treating people
he knows what he's
doing to people
and the thing is
he got girls
yes you got girls
you got girls
you feel me
so it's pathetic
you're at what point
do you stop lying
to yourself
and you say
I need help
I can't keep treating people like that.
But that's what bothered me too.
And I'm not going to say it's okay, but you would expect it from a younger individual.
Somebody that has not done the work, that has not grown, a 19, 20, 21 that needs help.
This man is 46 years old.
This man was 40.
I thought he was 48.
He's a billionaire.
47, 48.
He's a billionaire.
He got access to all the best everything.
All the best therapists.
All the best resources,
and you still carrying on like this at 46 years old?
Yeah.
That's insane to me.
That's a sense of power, literally.
Just to be the most powerful person in the world
or the industry is just something that people love.
All the opposite.
You that broken.
Yeah.
You that broken. Yeah.
You that broken to where you projecting all that pain and all that hurt that you feeling
on the other people because for you to be running down a hotel in a hotel with a towel
on.
And fuzzy socks.
Doing that to a young lady.
You right.
You don't give a damn about nothing or nobody.
He didn't care who was out there.
It wasn't like it was his own private suite.
It could have been other people out there.
Absolutely.
So imagine what type of level of monster that is, right?
When you don't care to that extent, you got that kind of money and nobody can tell you anything.
Sheesh.
You shouldn't be on the street.
But like you said, it's probably he needs to work on himself.
Like losing his dad at a young age.
I ain't making nothing to make excuses for him. But he needs to work on himself, like losing his dad at a young age. I ain't making nothing to make excuses for him.
But he needs help.
He needs help, and the people around him
who have seen this, I think
in one of the
things, the lawsuit, Cassie was like
security had to stop him one time.
And I'm like, who are these people around him?
Listen, that man was 40 since then.
People that are scared of him. Sean Combs
has had the good sense to accomplish all these great things.
So he should have the good sense to go do some great things with himself
and figure his own life out.
For him to still be doing that at 46 years old to people, there's no excuse.
I don't want to hear about nothing.
I understand there's a root cause to all trauma.
But at 46 years old, for him to accomplish all the things that he's accomplished,
he knew what he was doing. he knew what he was doing.
Yeah.
He knew what he was doing.
And you can't run from yourself.
Eventually, that part of you catches up to you.
We have Valerie on the line.
Valerie, good morning.
Good morning.
How are you?
How are you feeling, Valerie?
What's your thoughts?
My thoughts, you know, I just feel that it is rather disgusting what he did to that young
woman.
And, you know, she's not a girl, she's not a child,
but, you know, especially looking at the age difference,
he's 20 years older than her, he could have been her dad,
and he's got daughters.
And, you know, I just don't understand.
I don't know if it's that, I don't know why it's that,
you know, it's not just our men,
but, you know, obviously it's not a cultural thing,
but speaking where our men are concerned, but obviously it's not a cultural thing,
but speaking where our men are concerned,
I don't know why they allow themselves to self-destruct.
I don't know if it's that they think they're never going to get caught or they think that because they reach a certain level of success
that their demons are going to just disappear
and that they don't face and find time to deal with it.
I mean, because apparently money is not an issue,
but having to get the type of help that he needs to deal with his demons.
And apparently he knows he's got demons because he knows what he was doing
was wrong.
So, you know, and then also, you know,
men like him were always the first ones to talk about if you do something
to mine, you know, you're never going to do nothing to mine.
I'm never going to let nobody do nothing to mine.
But then they turn around and do it to somebody else's.
So, you know, there's just, you know, it's the saddest part for me is that young, is what she went through.
You know, I have family members that have gone, women that have gone through that.
My mom is actually a survivor of domestic violence.
And, you know, one of the worst things, two of the worst things I think a man could do is to sit on and put his foot on a woman.
And it's not just about the physical abuse.
It's just about not only the physical abuse.
Now I'm just going to degrade you, not just as a woman, but just as a human being.
It's just what he did was so disgusting.
I'm disappointed. I am highly
above and beyond disappointed in him as a man, as a black man, and as a black man that
has reached a certain level, which there's not many of us, our men that have reached
his level, right? And to reach that level and to, you know, self-destruct, you know?
That's right. and to, you know, self-destruct, you know, and to do that to yourself.
And then yet again, you know, every culture has its thing.
They have their people that do what, but, you know, like I said,
there's not a whole lot of us that reach that status.
And, you know, just, you know, take a book out of President Obama's, you know, page.
He reached a certain level, and he maintained being a good human being.
But also I think people need to understand is that people tend to think that once you reach a certain status or a celebrity status that you walk on clouds or you're not human.
Whatever demons or issues you had that were brewing beforehand they're just going to be
magnified that's right but thank you for being magnified and multiplied and the world can see
it now all right um charlamagne i do want to have an opportunity i can't i don't want to do it now
because i don't want to take away from the ditty situation um in a casting situation but i want to
call back and speak with you about the whole um tale of marjorie green which you said on friday
i'm gonna try to get back through a little bit later.
Okay.
Hold on, okay?
All right.
Okay.
You know, and that's what she,
she brought up some very good points.
And one thing that it made me think about,
you can't give Diddy credit
for being a genius and a mogul
on one aspect of his life,
but then say he doesn't know any better
when it comes to stuff like violence
towards women.
That man knows plenty better.
He knew what he was doing was wrong,
and he was still choosing to do it for whatever reason.
Maybe because he thought he was just too powerful.
Maybe he thought he could get away with it.
Maybe that's just his nature.
I don't know.
But you can't give him credit for being a genius on one aspect,
but then say he don't know no better.
That man know he definitely know better.
Absolutely.
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Good morning.
Morning, everybody.
It's DJ Envy, Jess Hilarious, Charlamagne.
Morning, everybody.
It's DJ Envy, Jess Hilarious, Charlamagne Tha Guy.
We are The Breakfast Club.
If you're just joining us, we're opening up the phone lines talking about Diddy
and everything that happened with Diddy over the last couple of days.
Started with you, Jess.
You know what I want to ask you, Jess?
What?
Not only did that video came out and the apology,
what did you think about the apology?
I felt like, you know how somebody apologized because something came out?
Because you got caught.
I mean, it's like oh wow
and this is for the world to see
of course this circulated
you know what I'm saying but he felt
and probably still feels untouchable
you know what I mean for a long time
and like even paying $50,000
to have that video
erased or whatever you know what I mean
like you don't think when you're that powerful
and you're that you know so self absorbed you don't think that when you're that powerful and you that you know so self-absorbed you don't
think things like this will come back you know and there's no way I don't know
why he thought that but there's no way that somebody gonna hold on to something
like this and that can that can be something that you playing with
something totally like out of your control right you know what I'm saying
I just thought it was crazy. He didn't say,
he didn't say nobody's name.
Yeah.
Like the video was you beating Cassie.
How can we just say,
I am sorry.
Because I don't feel like he regrets what he did.
I still feel like it's like, nah.
And I feel like he may feel like,
yo,
that's from so long ago.
And that's,
and I know that he know he's done some worse things.
And that,
like I said, that's why I keep saying that know he's done some worse things and that like i said that's
why i keep saying that video was just light like something like so light they did imagine all the
other things he probably did so i don't i don't think he saw it as like i don't need to apologize
to her man that apology was nastier than daily on tequila and let me tell you something else
not only should he have apologized to cassie in that video he should have apologized to all the
general public
that he lied to
you sat there and you tried to paint Cassie as a liar
for weeks you're the one who put out
statements
you put out statements saying it was just a witch hunt
and it was just a money grab
and you deny everything that's being said
you volunteered that lie
so if you're going to do an apology
you got to apologize to Cassie
then apologize to the general public for lying,
and then, you know, I don't know, throw yourself at the mercy of the court.
But honestly, he shouldn't have did that apology at all.
That's why I keep saying for somebody whose slogan is can't stop, won't stop,
somebody need to put him, grab him, and say, no, it's time to stop.
No, seriously.
Because it has stopped.
Yeah.
It's over.
And then you gave her the money.
You ended up paying.
Like you ended up settling
so if they were just looking for a payday if it was something that you really didn't do you
wouldn't pay that's right but you know the the sad thing is you hear all these other women that's
been coming out for months saying yeah they've been abused and that they've been in altercations
and you know people always decide what's true and what's not and you just think that damn like
that might be him which is sad
because like you said
he has daughters
he has beautiful daughters
which is sad
the other complaint
unless I'm mistaken
it wasn't about
him abusing women
it was about him
having like a
trafficking rink
or something
it was like other stuff
no no
not Lil Rob
but there was a girl
there was another woman
that did an interview
that said Diddy
kicked her while she was pregnant
I'll say allegedly
oh okay okay and then one of his other ex-girlfriends I think she sat down with somebody Rob, but there was a girl, there was another woman that did an interview that said Diddy kicked her while she was pregnant. I'll say allegedly. Oh, okay, okay.
And then one of his other ex-girlfriends,
I think she sat down with somebody and she was
saying that he was throwing her shoes
at her. He would choke her.
Basically, she described something similar to
what we saw on the Cassie footage.
We've been hearing it.
Let's go to the phone lines.
We got Chantel on the line. Chantel, good
morning.
I'm disgusted.
From someone who used to be a huge Diddy fan, I'm disgusted.
I wish it wasn't true, but also why they charge Bill Cosby while they can't charge him.
Well, the statute of limitations in California are different for,
I guess, rape and domestic violence.
Which is crazy.
It's crazy.
No, they should charge him.
They should charge him.
I hope everything else comes out.
Absolutely.
I'm almost positive they will.
Hello, who's this?
Yo, this is Ike Nice.
Ike Nice.
What's up, man?
Talk to us.
What's your thoughts?
What's up?
Hey, I wanted to speak to y'all.
I hope y'all had a great weekend.
Justin Luris, Chalermaine and God, DJ Envy.
Yeah, I wanted to say, man, first of all, like my pastor said, I pray for him and call the police.
That's right.
That's right.
You know, every time I think about this, I think that everybody's a victim, right?
Y'all got it right earlier this morning, you know what I'm saying?
When people like Pupley are granted the power,
you know, it comes responsibility with that power.
He got that power, like, back in 92.
And being young as he was, getting that power
to be able to influence people,
men, women, you know what I'm saying, young ladies,
people that want to be inspired to be artists like him.
In this situation with Cassie,
she wanted the same
thing that she saw him have based on
the videos, the lifestyle.
So she got involved with him
thinking that she was going to be able to
get those things that he had.
And then after a while
of doing that, over 10 years
I believe they were together,
either one or two things happened. She either aged out of the things that he was
into because she came into it already being young
because he already had a head start in that lifestyle
that he had known that he was able to
influence people like her.
So when she got into that lifestyle, you know, like I say,
either one of two things, she woke up and decided, hey, I can't take this no more,
or he probably said, I'm sick of you, I'm putting you to the wolves.
And so then now it becomes a money thing for her, you know what I'm saying,
I need to be able to be paid for my pain and suffering that
i had to go through you know because of the promises that you gave me that i would be able
to become this person that i see you having the ability to make mary and faith and all these other
people you know i'm saying that my brother i think i hear what you're saying you're missing
the whole point if i was beating your ass for however long, you know what I mean?
At whatever point she decided to wake up and say enough is enough of this abuse.
Or what she thought she could get out.
I don't think she was thinking about being the next Mary J. Blige at that point
once she getting her head beaten.
You could tell from that video of her trying to leave that hotel room.
She's sick of getting beat on.
Yeah, it is definitely not about music.
No, because to me,
it seems like she was
trying to leave
but didn't have help to leave.
It felt like she was
all by herself.
And maybe when she met
the trainer that was
training her,
that was her way to get out.
But it seemed like
she was trying to get out.
It seemed like she kept
getting beat
and they kept pulling back in.
I don't know,
but that's what it seems like.
But regardless of the power
of what Diddy could have done,
no woman deserves that.
That's why I don't like when we make these situations
about the individual as opposed to the issue.
Domestic violence is the issue.
Domestic violence has been around since the beginning of time.
Like we're talking about, I was reading something a while ago
where it was saying how it was legal to beat your wife up until 1920.
And when it comes to domestic violence and
family violence, that wasn't even looked at
as a crime until the 60s or 70s.
So think about that. So this is a
societal problem.
You know what I mean? This isn't just something that
one person
has to deal with or one rich person
with power. There's poor people
beating the hell out of their women, too.
Absolutely.
Yeah, and we'll take some more calls when we come back.
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Morning, everybody.
It's DJ Envy, Jess Hilarious, Charlamagne Tha Guy.
We are The Breakfast Club.
If you're just joining us, we're talking about Diddy and all the information that came out in the last couple of days.
Of course, the footage of Diddy
domestically abusing
Cassie and Diddy's apology.
And we're just taking your calls.
We have Donna on the line. Donna, good morning.
Good morning. How y'all doing?
We're doing well, Donna. What's your thoughts?
My thoughts is, first
of all, I don't even know what's going on.
Donna, Donna, turn down your radio first because we can hear your radio in the background i did all right go ahead i don't know what's going on in hollywood that nothing happens in real time
it's always nine years later 10 years later 20 years later money like power money power cover
ups why you think these people got prs and crisis management teams and all of that?
Something like that happens with a Diddy and a Cassie,
they're going to cover that up immediately.
It's this new era where there's video of everything everywhere
that's messing the game up.
I promise you, these PR people and these crisis management teams,
they hate this new era because they can't hide things anymore.
And I also want to comment on what you were saying about
his dad needing help to work on himself.
He was broken and all that.
Cassie was, too, in order to accept that behavior from somebody.
We got to, because I went through that,
and myself, I needed to work on myself to realize why would I accept this from a man.
Damn.
Yeah.
Because that goes both ways.
You have to get out of those situations.
You got to look within yourself and ask yourself, why did I accept this behavior from this man?
Why did I let him do this to me?
Yes, he's a monster, but why did I
accept this monster to live up
under my bed every night? But this is the
thing also, you know what I'm saying?
That's not acting like we haven't heard
rumors of people dropping
like flies when you try to get out of
situations concerning certain people.
The girl was scared. It was said that
he would beat her up and then send her
to other countries.
Vacations.
Yeah, vacations.
To heal.
To heal.
Like, it's not that easy to get away at times, you know, depending on your abuser, how much
power, money, and respect they got.
You know what I mean?
Because, like, to your point earlier, you were saying, like, some people looked at him
as a hero or whatever, but the whole time you're a villain behind closed doors and a powerful
villain.
So,
but not only that,
she was young,
by the way,
she was,
but this tape was 2016.
He was 46.
She was 29.
But hold on.
But not only that,
right.
When you read the documents,
they said that Diddy's people controlled her life.
The same management team,
the same accountants,
allegedly the same people at that booked her travel. The same people that got paid her taxes and paid her bills, you know, it was the same management team the same accountants allegedly the same people that that booked her travel the same people that got paid her taxes and paid her bills you know it's
the same everything everything where can you go down to every call i make every text i send what
are you talking about is is not it's not as easy as everybody think it is all the time we got time. We got Valerie on the line. Valerie, good morning.
Valerie?
Go pick it up, buddy.
Hello, who's this?
Hi,
this is Letitia. How are you guys?
Hey, Letitia, good morning. What's your thoughts?
Hey, good morning.
First off, I just feel like we're giving so much grace to Diddy
at this point. Like, Cassie, I hate
it for her, you know?
Looking at Diddy and the situation that happened,
I really don't believe that he's sorry.
Because if he's sorry when it came about the beginning,
he would have apologized then, right?
So the sorry comes from us knowing that.
You know what I mean?
So is that genuine?
Like, is that authentic?
No, it's not.
You know what I mean? It's kind of like Is that authentic because the kid didn't do it?
You know what I mean?
It's kind of like when a kid steals a piece of gum in a can so if they can get out, they're going to get out and chew it.
If they get in trouble, then that's when they get a whiffle
and they get home.
You know what I'm saying?
It's almost like he's turned from mobile to monster.
It's no longer hashtag no diddy.
It's like hashtag mobile to monster at this point
because you're 46 when this video surfed it.
Well, when it happened, you were 46.
At this point, we can't
continue to give someone, even
of his age,
a consistent excuse.
But even when y'all
say that, when y'all say we
when y'all say we giving them grace,
what are we
supposed to do? What are we the general public supposed to do? When you say we giving them grace, what are we supposed to do?
What are we the general public supposed to do?
When you say we giving them grace, what do you mean?
What does that mean?
The only thing you can do is call out the behavior and say that it's wrong and it's foul.
That really is all that we can do.
It's more so of the vocal piece behind it.
It's really people in the type of position standing up and saying that he's wrong.
I feel like the only ones that have giving their advice or giving their response to it are those that are not
really in the industry like that because they're scared of the backlash they're scared of what's
gonna happen to their partnership you know what i mean that apology that diddy did is solely for
sponsorship that's it i don't care anybody that's. It's legit for people to feel like he's sorry.
Because if he wanted help,
yo, you have money for years and years and years.
You could have been sought out help.
That's right.
You didn't even cry in your apology video.
You could have at least cried.
Thank you.
If you're going to put on a show,
then put on a show.
Because apology is exactly what it was it's legit
monster mobile it's from mobile to monster at this point because that's what he is these are monsters
you have daughters you know like you kick trash you ever seen someone kick money on the ground
no they pick it up yeah you ever seen someone drop something that was price you know priceless
on the ground to pick it up? No. I wouldn't even.
But I wouldn't even want him to cry.
Like, none of that.
Like, I don't like fake, phony apologies.
You know what I'm saying?
Like, nah.
He did exactly what he should have did.
Okay, cool.
Like, apologize, like she said, for a sponsorship.
So whatever.
A partner.
You know, he did that for business.
Like, whatever.
By the way, he's an idiot to think he still got business. Yeah, you know what I'm saying? But it's like, nah. His team is a bunch of idiots to think that there's still a business. There got no business he's an idiot to think he still got business yeah you know what I'm saying
his team is a bunch of idiots to think
that there's still a business
it's over
that's not something
we gonna see anyway
I feel like you just shouldn't have said nothing
what he gave us is what he gave us
and it wasn't an apology to anybody
it wasn't to us
it was just because
it leaked the video got out well we would like to tell anybody that's dealing with wasn't an apology to anybody it wasn't it wasn't to us it wasn't it was just because the the it
leaked the video got out well we would like to tell anybody that's dealing with domestic violence
if you have friends or family members that's dealing with domestic violence and don't know a
way out uh there is uh always uh the 800 number that they can help you they can guide you they
can get you in a situation which is a lot safer and the 800 number is 1-800-799-723 number is 1-800-799-7233.
Again, 1-800-799-7233.
Or you can text 88788.
I'm just reading some of the stats,
and there's so many people dealing with them
that we never even think.
And they say on average,
nearly 20 people per minute are physically abused
by an intimate partner in the united states so
that's a lot of people that are continually dealing with this so again if you are dealing
with it you know a family member dealing with it and you're trying to get out and you don't know
how the number is 800-799-7233 all right when we come back uh we'll take some more calls next hour
i'm sure We have
Just with the mess
What are we talking about?
Talking about
And all these people
Talking about like grace
That you know
People are giving him
These responses
Are not so gracious
That we're gonna talk about
Celebrities that are not
Giving him grace
And they're standing behind
Cassie and other women
That have been abused as well
So we're gonna get into that
Alright we'll get into that
Next is The Breakfast Club
Good morning
Wake that ass up Early. It's The Breakfast Club. Good morning.