The Breakfast Club - J.I.D Talks 'The Forever Story', Sibling Influence, J. Cole, Lil Wayne, Georgia Elections + More

Episode Date: October 19, 2022

J.I.D Talks 'The Forever Story', Sibling Influence, J. Cole, Lil Wayne, Georgia Elections + MoreSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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listen to podcasts. Wake that ass up in the morning. The Breakfast Club. Yep, Charlamagne the God, Angela Yee, DJ Envy had to bounce for a second, but we got a young man in here who's got one of my favorite rap albums of the year, the Forever Story. J.I.D. is here. What's happening? What's up, my brother? What's going on, dog? How are you, man?

How you feeling? I'm solid. This is your first time here, isn't it? First time, yeah. Welcome. Yeah, appreciate y'all for having me. Absolutely, man. I love the Forever Story, man.

Tell me about the title of that project. I'm big into sequels. So the first project that I guess got me noticed was the Never Story. You know, like Friday, Friday, next Friday. You know what I'm saying? The Forever Story is like the extension of the Never Story. True. Real simple.

It's like a prequel. Yeah, essentially, yeah. And we learned a lot about you from some... I like how you tell stories it kind of reminds me of how ghostface would tell a story and name people and you don't know who they are yeah but it's a good way to like explain everything that happened yeah it's just literally like uh account like on account or detailed accounts you know what I'm saying because I was like Terry Payne at first of all that you said T-Pain in that song, but it's Terry Payne. Yeah, Terry Payne.

He hate that. He hate that. So explain that story. That's from a song called Cody Blue 31. Initially, the song was dedicated to my homegirl. Her son had passed, and his name is Cody. He played at this park that I used to play ball at. It's called Central DeKalb or whatever.

The team is blue, and his number was was 31 so i just dedicated that to him but it was just like telling stories about childhood stuff and then my dog tear pain we all used to joking each other and stuff and my sister's like all my sister's super fine so he's like oh you know what i'm saying making jokes about like oh your sister that's so we always had a little like teenage combat you know what i'm saying about you had to swing on him a couple times. About to throw hands about it.

I don't even think me and Terry, I said, that's why I said on the song, I'm about to swing on him because we ain't never really hit about it. But you know what I'm saying?

Just telling stories of growing up and stuff like that. That's all it was. You from Atlanta? Yeah, I'm from Atlanta. I don't know why for the longest,

first I thought you was from North Carolina for a while. Hell. Don't do it like that. I'm from Carolina. You might just shit on North Carolina.

He just said it because of cold though. That's why't do it like that. I'm from Carolina. Is this shit on y'all Carolina? He just said it because of cold, though. That's why. And then I thought you was from Virginia for a second. Because you went to Hampton for a little while. Come on, man. Hold on, bro. Hold on, bro. He proud for me. Come on, man.

Real sick, man. But you went to Hampton for a second, right? Yeah, I got kicked out. And you and Earthgang and y'all got kicked out. I got kicked out. Half of them got kicked out. Okay. Yeah.

But you from the A? I'm from the A, from the other side, yeah. Okay, okay. Now, how did that record with Imagine Dragons change your life? Bro, when I tell you a machine, bro, I ain't never seen no machine like that and like you said like I'm signing a Cole you know what I'm saying

I ain't never seen a record work in the respect they put to it um so wait a minute you saying Cole don't got a machine he got a machine he is a machine himself

but not like them damn trackers yeah not like them trackers you said that like you in Game of Thrones but not like them trackers um it initially came I guess they were fans Like them dragons. You said that like you were in Game of Thrones. Like them dragons. It initially came, I guess they were fans. You know what I'm saying?

And they love hip hop. They're like real into it. You know what I'm saying? Just the music, the type of stuff we do. They show love and respect to it. And I already knew who they was. You hear them niggas in Target every day. You know what I'm saying?

Just walking anywhere. So my manager sent me the record, said they wanted me to get on it i don't know i actually don't know how it came about wow now that i'm going through this story i actually don't know i just know somebody reached out at the time i'm at like mac miller house we're working on some music recipes to mac recipes my dog mac we're working a song, and I remember how I started the song. Bro was like, no, I don't like that for this song. Maybe an hour later,

I get a text. He's like, hey, if Matt Drax wants you to get on this song, I played it. Mac was like, you should start this song off how you was about to start off on the song we was working on.

And it was perfect. I'm glad he told me that because it turned into one of the biggest features I ever did. Damn, so you had that record that long ago? Yeah, bro.

It's like 20... Did you hear he passed? Wow. Yeah, it's been sitting. That's what I'm saying. The respect they put to it. It's been sitting for almost four years

and then it's just been on the charts forever. Yeah. Almost got a billion streams. It's double platinum maybe three times in some places. Yeah, I remember when they announced it, I think for the year, you had more screams than Cole. Yeah.

And everybody was like, well, how did that happen? I'm like, well, Jig got a catalog, but also it's got to be this Imagine Dragons. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Good joke. It's the play, gotta play the game. Yeah. Yeah. J. Cole seemed like the type of person that would be happy for you for that. You know how some people- Why wouldn't you you be we ain't talking about that record one time

you gotta know about he probably know he probably know he probably know yeah i mean that's interesting like i wonder like did everything go up for you after that did like the label say yo you gotta finish up your album did the budget get bigger like you know what? I ain't even really like... I was good with it. I understood the moment and stuff like that, but I wasn't trying to go off of their coattails. I ain't try to let the moment die, but at the same time I was like, all right, I appreciate this, but I want a record like that for my own. You know what I'm saying? I want that under my name.

I want JID to have one of those. And if that's in the car, that's cool. But I really ain't trying to play off and trying to get, oh, imagine Dragos fans come over here. Like, y'all ain't know that. But I'm talking about

some great nigga shit on this album. Y'all probably can't even understand. Can I cut? Yeah. Yeah. But they probably wouldn't even understand. So I ain't really trying to play into that too hard. And I respect it.

I got much love for their fan base and everything that they do for them. But at the same time, I'm like, you know, it's a hard. And I respect it. I got much love for their fan base and everything that they do for them. But at the same time, I'm like, you know, it's a little selfish. I get it. I get it. Now, I saw you saying that you originally didn't even want to be a rapper. No. And as talented as you are, I'm wondering, you're the youngest of seven, right?

Yeah. What do you think, like, being the youngest of seven, how does that play into the skills that you have and the stories that you tell? Being young, I guess I was very, like, perceptive of what's going on. You know what I'm saying? I kept, like, just an eye on everything around me. So I saw my brothers and sisters do stuff, and I'm like, ah, I'm not doing that.

You know what I'm saying? It was really just trying to, like, figure it out. Because I'm, like, detached by, like, four or five years. So it was kind of like when they was in college, I'm just now going into high school. So it was like I grew up with them but at the same time i had like space to figure out who i was alongside like knowing oh these are your roots like you got a little crazy you know what i'm saying you kind of talented like you could just see your genes and your mother's sisters what did you want to do then if not be a rapper i was trying to go to nfl you know hoop dream football

stuff like yeah i'm from the south know, we all play ball and stuff. I love this song, Stars, man. And it sounds like it was based on a true story. Yeah. You were a homeless sexual at one point. Wait, wait, wait, wait, bro. I was what? A homeless sexual at one point.

A homeless sexual. What is that, bro? In the song, I think you started off by saying, like, let me stay with you for a little while. You know what I mean? You give the woman some dick. Broke nigga dick. Yeah, broke nigga dick. You got to fuck for room and board.

That's always like, you fighting for your life. Yeah, you got to fuck for room and board. You got no money. It's not as good. Homosexual. Dang, that's cold right there. That's a good, uh, terminology. How old were you when that good. Homosexual. Dang, that's cold right there. That's a good terminology. How old were you when that happened?

Homosexual. No, this is just like throughout my life. You know what I'm saying? It was just really me going through like the process of all these transitions from like, I'm doing sports and all that. And then out of nowhere, like, okay, I got kicked out of school. You know what I'm saying? Back to that.

And I had to figure out like what was the next goal? Because I was like going to school. I was on a full scholarship. Football. And then got kicked out derailed everything I was thinking about being like a lawyer or something because I remember a lot of stuff and I got a lot of like uh I don't know I just got a good memory you know I'm saying photographic memory photographic um and that really was it I was just trying to figure out the next step I couldn't I didn't want to be a lawyer like that. I feel like they say you got to be tall.

It's something about pathos. It's something about pathos and ethos. And they say, like, you know what I'm saying? You got to be tall and have your presence. You know what I'm saying? That's just a certain thing about being a lawyer. I don't know. So I was like, damn, I got to be tall to be a lawyer too?

So football ain't work, whatever. And then I was just like, you can rap. All the homies always used to say that. We used to freestyle, and it just came to my head. no earth game yeah I was on the home like I said I played football and it was like bro you're not finna go to leave you're not growing on my Jesus Christ how do you not take that criticism is like being negative like I was like you're right he told me the truth and I was like, you're right. It's realistic. It's realistic. It's my dog.

He told me the truth, and I was like, all right. He was like, bro, just start. Let's rap. Let's do this. We can really put this together. So we started Spillage Village, the collective, and that's where it started, on the grounds in Virginia, like at a school that I got kicked out of.

And it worked out. So those women that you were staying with, do you look out for them now? Do you throw them a couple dollars? No, sir. No, sir. No, I got real stuff going on, man. What you praying for for the roof they gave you?

Were they at least women that you liked or was it like just really? Yeah, it wasn't like a whole collective of women, you know what I'm saying? I ain't no community of pain, you feel me? True, true. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So anybody that I dealt with, you know, appreciate you. I ain't no community of pain. You feel me? True, true. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Respect yourself. Anybody that I dealt with, you know, appreciate you. And you got Yashin B on that record, too.

Yashin B, yeah. Crazy. How'd that happen? And why that record? Just because, like, he the OG. You know what I'm saying? He reached out a long time. Well, not even reached out.

He spoke about me on a morning show. I'm not sure which one it was, but he spoke about me. I'm like, wow, this is crazy. You know what I'm not sure which one, what it was, but he spoke about me. I'm like, wow, this is crazy. You know what I'm saying? He showed me love. So ever since,

I'm like, I'm going to make it my goal to find wherever you are on earth, you know what I'm saying, to just let you know, like, honor you, show you my love and respect.

So we just tapped in on different mediums or whatever. And I was like, bro, you got to get on this song. You know what I'm saying? I did this little beat switch for you. I want you to get this record.

And he came through, like, like all you would. Like, he's amazing, bro. He's just a good genuine. You know I'm saying intelligent brother. Oh, he doesn't do everything. It's hard Yeah, that's why I like I stand on it I really like appreciate him for even like Stepping into my world and it's showing me that love and you sample miss fat booty Which came first The verse from him Or Miss Fat Booty sample The Miss Fat Booty sample Okay so that's really nice

So I tried to put it All together like You know what I'm saying I'm like oh I'm gonna go ahead And sample You already showed me love So I'm gonna sample

A song that mean A lot to me Just to maybe Perk your ears up You know what I'm saying See what's going on And then I'm gonna sing you something

I'm gonna be a part Of this ecosystem I'm trying to build It worked out This whole album Kind of sound like a movie Now in particular This song Crack Sandwich And then I'm going to sing you something. I want you to be a part of this ecosystem I'm trying to build. And you work that. This whole album kind of sounds like a movie. Now, in particular, this song, Crack Sandwich. Yeah, for sure. Love Crack Sandwich.

For sure, for sure. That's one of my favorites. I love Crack Sandwich, but it's not actually about crack sandwiches. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And your brother. And I was telling you, I met your brother, Israel, and Izzy, as you call him. But we were in Not tory and two's wedding together he was actually my partner he was a groomsman and i was a bridesmaid cute yeah yeah

yeah we walked down the aisle but i could see i could get a little sense of how wild he could be yeah yeah yeah my brother lit he was in the league he did his thing it's a good catch um but no no no, no. That's crazy that y'all tapped in because we've been on two forever. Like I said, we played pop. He played pop bar with my brother because they older than me. And we've just been cool ever since. So tell us this New Orleans story where things went a little crazy

and the family got arrested. All right, so boom. My brother graduating from Tulane University in the wall is we going there for celebration whatever whole family there well it was probably missing a couple family members because it's like seven brothers and sisters so everybody went there um I guess my sister's just a little too lit they went to the restroom something happened in there with some girls yeah it got taken outside my sister got kicked out

we're still in there partying or whatever and i see through a glass window a man hit my sister in the jaw no man that's it in the jaw but we in the um vip all his football friends like professionals there they all cool my brother because you know I'm saying he demand it was straight mayhem we broke the glass so what you say you alerted everybody like yo no no no I seen it but I feel like everybody got the energy because all the energy was going towards the door they trying to not let people out so the bouncers and stuff trying to like stop the whole not the whole football team but just a bunch of like strong black men it came came outside, broke through the bouncers, broke the glass door down. And it just like a brawl in the street.

So y'all caught the dude? Oh, 100%. Oh, good job. But it was a bunch of them. Because we in New Orleans, they had about 10 people. We had about like, on the song I said like 23. We had like a bunch of people. So it was just straight melee.

Just everybody just fighting. It was horrible. It was probably one of the most traumatic things i've ever been through in my life it was teeth knocked out blood everywhere like i mean he hit your sister though yeah yeah we worked him out we figured him out he i don't know how good he's doing right now uh it was mainly my siblings which is kind of crazy about it was mainly my siblings that got got but we didn't really get in trouble

they knew somebody who was popular or whatever just got out of there it was a cool situation but it was not a cool situation I was 17

yeah 100% so I'm fighting like 21, 22 year olds you feel me I'm 17 I'm about to go back to college I'm about to go back

to school on Monday I didn't go back scrapped up it was all good because you know I know how to throw them and you out of town so you was like man I don't know if scrapped up. It was all good because you know how to throw them. And you out of town, so you was like, man, I don't know if they got guns.

Yeah, for sure I thought we was going to die. They was screaming. They was like, oh, we're going to kill you. Y'all going to die tonight. Like the Wallace accent. It was kind of crazy. Now what did your mom say when y'all called from jail? I don't even think it had to go that far. Only thing we had to call nobody.

You know what I'm saying? We just moved around. It worked out. Go back to the song Crack Sandwiches Yeah yeah yeah That's the song That's the song I'm explaining Crack Sandwich

Yeah the fight The third verse I'm bringing back These third verses Or at least trying to You know what I'm saying It's on the third verse Crack Sandwich

I explain the story The first two verses I'm just giving you I'm just setting the landscape Or whatever The third one is where Like everything changed And then I start telling

That specific story I thought that song Was about poverty this whole time. It is. That is all poverty. You feel me? We fighting. It's black on black stuff we shouldn't be doing. But in that situation, it's justified, though. It's justified, for sure.

And the crack sandwich, it just came from the hook. And then, I don't know, a lot of my brothers and sisters were born in the 80s. So it was like, crack. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's what the 80s is. Yeah. And then on the hook, I was like, I ain't got cheeseburger money.

Make a sandwich. Make a sandwich, yeah. Yeah, so just crack and sandwich. I just put it together because it's a bizarre name. Like, you'll never really see nothing like that. You got to listen to the song to understand. A hundred percent. Now, you talk about, you know, how this album, you say,

is a good piece of your origin story. So I wonder, like, what did you say on this album that you didn't say on other projects, you think? It's just explaining how I even got here. Before, it was just coming from, it was called The Never Story. So it was coming from a place of just like, I don't know if this is a real dream. I don't even know if this is a real thing. I made this song. Y'all like the song.

But maybe this is two three years i'd be around make a couple hundred thousand make a couple million i'd be gone that's what the never story was i've been here for six you know what i'm saying i've been in science since 27 when my first album came out 2017 i've been signed since 2016 it's 2022. there's a lot of people that came and gone i finally got like one of the biggest records of my career and this is the biggest album i ever dropped like it's done the greatest numbers whatever all that's cool but it's just like me centering myself like all this stuff going on around me um i'm not even sure if i was going to be here for that long but it's coming into like a fruition like a real reality around it

that's hard for me like you know i'm saying a lot of the people that i grew up with my brothers even everybody like that I'm around, I'm the only one in this position right now. A lot of responsibility, a lot of different things that come with it. Like I said, I'm the youngest, but I'm damn near the big little brother. You feel me?

That's just the cards I was in. I'll take that with so much respect. It's humbling to an extent, but at the same time, I was in and I'll take that like with so much respect you know I'm saying and it's humbling to to uh to an extent but at the same time like forever stories like you can pop your shit to him like you can really go like you really could be here for a minute I see myself like in that in that light you know I'm saying kind of like tapping on the uh the feet of the greats right

now at least trying to you know like a little wayne how is that that's what i'm saying like that's part of the reason i do this yeah like wayne was i'm sure people could see it i'm from i'm from atlanta from the south so that's like the main inspiration that was one of them like of course you said wayne andre 3000 who was somebody else you said on the album wayne andre 3000 somebody else jay um beyonce i want to be beyon be Beyonce for sure Jake Ye you know what I'm saying

yeah I said that too it's just oh yeah it's just an album full of like now what Kanye do you wanna be

cause I saw you tweet out that Kanye's a cracker and you deleted it I call him KK Kanye at this point he's a fool I'm gonna let the dust settle before I really give my opinion on it. Because I don't want to jump on it.

It feels like it's a lot of noise out there right now. When somebody shows you who they are, believe them. Cole was right on false prophets. I'm staying out of the way. I'm staying out of the way. But you got Wayne on the album, too, though. Got Wayne on the album. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

That fucked me up. You know what's crazy? When I first got the verse, I ain't listened to it until we started doing mixing. I was like, this can't be real. You know what I'm saying? I let it sit for a minute. I knew, as soon as my folks sent me the, what's the name?

I heard the lighter flick. I just turned it off. I was like, no, sir. Not the lighter flick. Not the lighter. As soon as I heard it, I turned it off. I don't want to hear it right now. Like, this can't be real. Then we got the mix and I heard it. I was like, no, I'm about to come after you. You're not going to try and steal my song.

Yeah. So you rewrote your verse? I didn't rewrite. I just gave him like an eight after his. Got you. Just because I ain't never rewrote no verse. But for that moment, I just gave him a little extra. That was the first time I actually did that, too.

Had he reached out before? I actually went on a small college run with him in like 2016. Wow. And got booed. Wow. The first time I ever got booed on something like, just because bro was late. Shout out to Wayne. But bro was late, so they was waiting on oh yeah

oh do you i never forget old demand university i'm still mad at y'all about that i didn't even get a chance to rap yet bro as soon as i walked down on stage i was like i must be the ugliest thing in the world because they just straight boo did you have dresden we started growing okay yeah so they probably could have thought it was wayne coming out like super late or whatever the case may be. They wouldn't have booed. Nah, nah, nah. But that was six years ago, too, and that's a terrible setup. Somebody's late, people waiting.

Yeah. They still waiting for Wayne. Not just somebody. An icon. And then they don't know who you are from a can of pipe. Right. You know what I'm saying? This is when I first, like, dropped a song that kind of got, like, starting to get notoriety or whatever.

Did you keep going when the boo started? For sure, for sure. I started freestyling, doing all stuff to divert their attention. It worked out. Okay, good. They booed at the beginning, then at the end it was chill. I don't know. You might have just been like, all right, thank you.

You know what I'm starting to realize just on some hip-hop shit? Because I'm from the South, so I get it. But I always say that the four most influential rappers of all time are Jay-Z, Kanye, Wayne, and Tupac. But a lot of people debate me about wayne and i'm like how yeah they must not felt the presence of what was going on when he was doing his thing and still doing it still doing it that's a little weird and think of all the legends that he produced think about how he put cash money on his back and bought cash money back to prominence you

know what i mean it's just like and he's been doing it since 1996. That's crazy. When you think about it. That's crazy. So when you said that on the album, I was like, okay, I know I'm not tripping. Yeah. The idea, youngin'. You know what I mean?

Yeah, for sure, for sure. I'm 30 now, bro. I'm old here. Oh, my gosh. So I really had to step into this 30-year-old man, like, presence. You know what I'm saying? I appreciate it. I love, like, Asian with grace.

Yeah. Like, a black man. Like, I love this. And also being more successful every year. I think that makes getting older even more fun. And money. Yeah, exactly. Money make it real.

You know what I mean? Like, you think about when you first started, how life has changed so much. Exactly. Exactly. Now, I saw you also said with this album, you did it a little differently. Like, the whole process of making it more, more like community with people being around never doing that again My listen no many people in the studio. It's too many opinions too much. Yeah, I ain't never doing that again I'm gonna get back to like not even get back cuz I already I did I

Executed what I wanted to ask you but I'm not listening No, I got to go in own like because too many ears too many uh what they say cooks in the kitchen in the kitchen yeah that was what you had a direction for the album and it was trying to take you somewhere else so yeah for sure but i got in my way i did it came out the way i wanted it to but it just took a little longer so how'd you get in your way um just overthinking or under thinking, trying to make something perfect. Nobody makes a perfect anything. I don't know what album is perfect that I can just listen to it.

It may be one or two out there that's just amazing, perfect. You can just live through everything. But I was trying to aim for something that's, what's the point? I'm not perfect every day when I wake up, so let me just give you this body of work and just keep pushing I was kind of dwell dwelling on it yeah two of my favorite songs on the album is a bread of them yeah insisting them break those records down for me um brother them is like it's more light you know I'm saying you can get like a vibe from it you can

understand like this brothers camaraderie but this the Sussanin is probably the most, one of the more important records on the album, just because it's a weird situation. Definitely one of the longest. Definitely one of the longest, but it was me trying to,

like, spill some stuff that I'm going through, you know what I'm saying? With my Sussans, we don't even, like, really talk. We don't fuck with each other.

And it still bothers me to this day, so it was, like, kind of trying to like unlayer that you know what i'm saying peel back layers to that in a situation i don't really know like how it's gonna turn out i don't know like somebody gonna die but just on some like i don't know how we ever gonna like mend this situation what about like around the holidays those are coming up shot it on even fuck with pagan holidays like that she's your witness huh she's your witness she's so deep we ain't spoke in a minute i don't even really know it's it's christianity you know it's some black southern rudy like uh religion but

we don't really talk so i don't i couldn't even give you her perspective of what she believes in. I just know she don't fuck with me. Is there a reason? This industry. Oh, she think you like evil. She never wanted me to do this. Yeah. Yeah.

Just because she just don't like the whole, all of it. She think it's like. The devil. On the side. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And I'll be like, just listen to my music. I'm talking about God. Yeah, you're like, I haven't had to sacrifice nobody yet.

Oh, my God. Nah, but yeah, yeah, yeah. It's a weird little situation. What's interesting about those records is Brother Dem has a feature, got Lil Durk. Yeah. But Sister Dem, you kept by yourself. And I thought that was interesting because the logical thing would be

to go get a woman, Rhapsody or somebody. You know somebody you know what I mean like why why did you decide to do brother them with a feature but sister them alone I went through the whole process of I was about to do that like rap the fact that you said Rhapsody is like so on par with my whole brand like I love her oh she's my favorite rapper 100% so I uh I was literally about to reach out to her about that. But the Dirt situation kind of just, because I'm a fan. I think he amazing. I wanted Thug on it as well. But it may not work out.

And then I got Mustafa the Poet doing an amazing spoken word piece at the end. But some of them just didn't need it. I had enough words to dispel what I'm trying to say. Absolutely. And I don't know. I hate it. I hate it. I didn't need it. I had enough words to like dispel what I'm trying to say Absolutely, and I don't know I hate it. I hate I can't even listen I don't even really like listening to the song right just cuz it's annoying I'm like dang you don't really fuck with me. Yeah, and I don't fuck with you But does anybody try to intervene in the family? And put it together like nah, not for real not for real Not for real even how the album started with the voicemail.

Yeah. So is that real? Like, do people really think that? Nah, nah, nah. That was my old folks. But I'm saying, do people really come at you like that? Uh, nah. Okay.

Because besides that one situation with my sister, everything being cool, you know what I'm saying? That was my football coach. He just talked shit like that to everybody. You don't pick up the phone one time, he like, nigga, da-da-da. So that wasn't really that serious. That was my dog, Kavar.

What did you learn from football that you applied to the rap game? Hard work. Over talent type shit. You know what I'm saying? You can be talented as anybody, but you ain't working like it. You know what I'm saying?

I kind of like staying in the studio. I don't really party that much. I don't really whatever, whatever. I really like that staying to work it's like i said i'm a grown 30 year old man i ain't got time for no kid no kid games like i'm trying to like i'm trying to stay like i'm trying to aim for something once i get there i'm probably wild out the thing i love about guys like you though man it's like yo you've been in the game six years but your music has always had a level of maturity to it you know what i mean was that like by design did yeah because i feel like i came into the industry like as a grown man i kind of knew what i wanted like i ain't really had no time to like play around you know what i'm saying like a lot of people say oh i want

to do music my whole life so you've been working in this since 15 16 but literally I started I'm not like 22 like yo I probably can make it before I'm 27 you know I'm saying like if I if I if I hit a mark if I get in before 27 and I'm gonna I'm arrived this out so we to we hit so we 50 or to the wheels fall off oh so I gotta go I got a mark I got a money mark of what I want to make from the industry so I always had it in my mind with how I operate and stuff like that. And it's really that, for real. And you had other options besides Dreamville. Yeah, for sure, for sure.

So it was, I know, quality control was that one place you could have went to? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Were you close to doing it? For sure, for sure. I was about to, Coach K is my dog. He was one of the first people, like, bro, you got something, like something going on right here. And I was literally about to do that. I think it would have worked out either way bro cuz like I Don't know like I feel like I'm on both sides of the spectrum

I can do this I could do the lyrics, but I'm still a nigga nigga like At the end of the day like I can do whatever needs to be done to get to skin the cat Is that whatever? It's more that's a horrible phrase people say that but i don't know if there is one i've never skint the cat you never gonna see a nigga skin the cat where the cat gotta get you up out of there for show you how is there more than one way to skin a cat who did that to know that's that was created by a white man you know nigga skinning no cat skinny cat but that's a good problem to have when you have options.

But were there other people coming to the table? Crazy. I'm finna tell y'all a story. We was about to sign. Me and Earthman was about to sign. Not about to. We was not about to do it because we saw the deal. We got offered a deal from Rich Homie Quan.

For real? For sure. For sure. That would have been a come up for rich on me kwan oh my god that would have been a great get bro the deal was disgusting though what was it straight disgusting i don't even remember it specifically but i just remember i was like no i don't even know nobody but i know crack sandwiches straight crack sandwiches for five years was he the first person to come at you with the deal i feel like he he was. And we were just dealing with some of his people or whatever.

So it wasn't specifically him. I feel like at the time, we haven't even met him. I feel like he was just having his moment. We had people around like, yo, Rich Homie, you want to sign some people? These niggas out of A, they hard. So I think that's how they came about. I don't know. I feel like I made the right decision.

No, you did a great job. I do, too. So how did Cole happen? He already knew about Earthgang. Because they was popping like since college they already knew what was going on so they went on tour with um ab soul and then i just came out popped out did a song every night and boss was on that tour part of the dream uh cole came to one of the shows he was like you ain't the earth gang it's only two people i'm like yeah i'm just doly you know what i'm saying uh and then said brown i talked about this

on one of the songs called 2007 Seth Brown one of Cole's best friends he was always playing Cole my stuff cause me and Seth was like we should smoke

like chill you know what I'm saying while he was on the tour he was my dog he was playing stuff for Cole the whole time and then Cole was like bro pull up to North Carolina

with Earthgang and we pulled up to the studio and I just started barring them niggas up to death. Damn. I was like,

this is my one chance I'm gonna kill everybody. And a couple of songs came out of that that made the first album and it was just hard. Like, it was just a good moment.

Cole's just a solid dude. Like, forever indebted to my dog. Cole is the guy, you know, because I feel like, you know, you can be a legend

but your stature grows even more when you produce other potential legends or legends, right? And like, out of that whole big three, him, Kendrick, and Drake, he's got the best roster, and it's not even close. For sure. Between Irv Gang, Dreamville, Ari Lennox. You said

between him, Drake, and Kendrick. Kendrick. Kendrick just got Keem. They got PG Lane. I was just saying because what's name is Tops? T-D-E, right? T-D Kendrick just got Keem. Yeah, they got PG Lane. I was just thinking, because what's his name? It's Tops. T.D. E. Rock. T.D. E. Tops.

So, yeah, for sure. So what is he doing that you think everybody else may not be doing? He's just real into the art of it. He love the music. You know what I'm saying?

It's actually his label, so if you're going to sign up on something, it's got to be something that you really love. And I feel like he's just real, what's the word? Intentional? Yeah, I kind of think he tries to see himself in some of the artists that he signs.

And I think that just goes all across the board for the whole label. He probably just sees himself in pieces of everybody, and that's how he goes all across the board for the whole label everybody probably sees itself in pieces of everybody and That's how I move it. I guess do you purposely like on the on the forever? So you say you know, I don't want no cold feature. What's your for sure for sure? I'm probably gonna be like that for a minute. So I get why I won't Interest why just cuz you want to be seen as the yeah, like I'm sorry dreamy. Of course, you're gonna get a cold feature of course I take beats but it's far like Music stuff is it's time to separate from that

I don't feel like he did so much a tease all career like every out my next super goofy And most of the songs they did weren't that great No for real cuz I remember the first song I ever heard from Jay and Cole was mr. Knight I had down on here that that's not what I wanted to hear who had a better verse on it I don't even remember now that. That's not what I wanted to hear. Who had a better verse on that? I don't even remember now, to be honest with you. Yeah. Who you got? I don't know.

Yeah. I'll try to throw it. I really don't even remember the record. I don't remember the record because I remember hearing it back in the day. And, you know, you listen to it a few times. And I'm like, this is not what I wanted from Jay and Cole. But the one on Hov album when he put Cole on it. Oh, Stars Born.

Stars Born. That was the one that everybody liked. That was hard. No, that was dope. album, when he put Cole on it. Oh, Stars Born. Stars Born. That was the one that everybody liked. That was hard. No, that was dope. That was dope. That was on Blueprint 3. Yeah, for sure, for sure.

I used to love that album. Yeah, I used to love that album. And then I feel like you guys also have some good artist development somehow because I see the progress because I always feel like

as you go, the first album, the second album, it should always be some type of progression. Step it slow. And I feel that with Ari Lennox too a lot I love her album you like the album I do it's amazing to me and I think she's so heavy yeah like she's so randomly funny she is things that she says that was actually my favorite that's been our you know my favorite conversation of the year that's the that's my favorite guest all year long Ari being up here

this year she is funny as hell. And I love hearing y'all two together. Yeah. Like the, you know, being on that album. Can't Make You Change record? Yeah, that's my dog. She's so talented. Her voice is just like timeless. You can feel so much when you hear her voice.

You can hear like the ancestors, the spirits of whoever she used to listen to. Just all wrapped up in one. And then she got her own personality with it. It's like super fire. And she got you talking relationship stuff and everything. Bye. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Hell yeah.

She's smart as hell. I love the way she goes about creating her music because I feel like she initially lives it. She lives it up. Whatever the hell she's going through, she's lived that experience, which is tight to me. Did y'all have the conversation

before y'all recorded that record? Was it a conversation about relationships? Not really. Not really, not really. I feel like that came so easy. I feel like me and her make music really simple. It's not too much of a conversation. It's just like the frequency.

Did you see Stevie Wonder was trying to shoot his shot at her recently? I didn't see that. I just seen the clip. Man, I seen a bunch of jokes around and I didn't even want to really hit on it right quick. They was making a lot of jokes. Twitter the wild,

wild west, bro. That's why I be, I don't care what I say on Twitter because I'm really not like that in person. But I just know this is just like

a lawless ground. I was like that 15 years ago. When we all first got on Twitter, we was all like that. But we also understood Twitter was Twitter

and it wasn't the real world. Now, I'm not sure. Fusion like that. Yeah. But we also understood Twitter was Twitter and it wasn't the real world. Now, I'm not sure. Fusion. Absolutely. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's a different thing going on. But you got to take that

with a grain of salt. You know what I'm saying? Social media is... We're not supposed to know everybody's opinions. No. I shouldn't know how everybody feels,

but we do, so it is what it is. Why'd you delete the tweet when you called Kanye a cracker? Oh, you're going to bring that up again. I said that? He deleted it.

I read it in his tweet, so it didn't happen. I don't know. If it ain't up there, then I don't know if that was a cracker. Okay, okay, okay. I don't know. I call people crackers sometimes. It's disappointing though, right? I just want to plead the fifth on this,

because I just want to see how everything play out. You don't want to say something. What is this, a master plan? It's not. Could we stop this? I don't think it's a master plan. It's not. It's not a master plan.

Drive slow, homie. You just got to keep doing that. Drive slow. It might be the master's plan. It might be the master's plan, but it ain't a master plan. Is being a rapper everything you thought it would be? Is being a rapper everything I thought it would be? Is being a rapper everything I thought it would be? Yes.

Everything. I expect people to do exactly what they're doing right now, especially with what's going on in social media. I expect everybody, yep, do it. Everybody's just doing exactly what I expect. That's why I'm calm, you know what I'm saying? Because I kind of see like, it's kind of high school-ish. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know what I'm saying? Because I kind of see, like, it's kind of high school-ish. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

You know what I'm saying? But at the same time, you can change lives, and you can, like, really change the trajectory of your legacy and your family and all of that. So I think that's hard about it. Like, that's beautiful to me that people that look like us can, like, just, like, I love Lil Baby. You know what I'm saying?

Just because I see, i know where he from i know people like him but the way he ran it up you know i'm saying his position here right now like i know his family like everything he's taking care of that's just like a blessing i love to see like situation like that like we was you know i'm from the same i'm not from the same hood but i'm saying i'm from the same type struggle and stuff like that. But, I don't know. Like, I never really had to, like, sell drugs or do nothing. You know what I'm saying?

Nothing crazy. Like, we got in a little fuck shit fight, like, little hood shit. But, nothing too crazy. But, I understand, like, the struggle of, like, niggas really coming up from nothing. And that's, like, beautiful to me. So, that's why I appreciate the game for what it is at the same time. But, you just got to play it. You know what I'm saying?

Because if you don't play, you're going to get played. You'll play yourself out of position. Did you ever have a job? One job. I worked at Domino's piece. Yeah. I was horrible. I knew he was going in there high fucking that.

Boy, I was horrible, bro. I'm going to tell you a story. My dog from Earthgang, his name is Olu. I got him a job at it. So I started working for like two days. Like, bro, come get this job. You know what I'm saying?

We pay for studio time. Ooh. Bro was such a studious individual. Y'all got a notebook or something? Any book, yeah. Grab it. Bro, bro. You know how you hold

a piece like this? Bro went to the door with a piece of like a notebook. He dropped the piece off like this, dog. I'm calling back. Bro, what happened to my piece? He's like, this is how it's made, bro. We got it, bought it, did it.

That was his last day of work. Hilarious. You know what I love about you and Earthgang, man? You know, because I'm born in the 1900s, right? 1978. So I grew up off Outkast and Goody Mob and like that, the whole Dungeon family. Yeah. And, you know, even though I hate using this word, but it's true. They really conscious black men. Yeah.

And they knew how to talk about things of socially redeeming value. Yeah. But in a very relatable way. And I feel like that's the tradition y'all are carrying on. For sure. For sure. Because, yeah, you got to have, like, both sides of the spectrum. You got to know how to talk to people.

And then you got to have, like, I don't know. I consider myself like a smart-ass dumb nigga. You know what I'm saying? Whatever. You call that a brilliant idiot. Yeah.

You know what I'm saying? Like, I know both sides of the spectrum or whatever. And, yeah, I love the way OutKast do that. I love the way, like, CeeLo and all them, like, you know what I'm saying? Gip, Kujo, all of them. They used to always spectrum or whatever um and yeah i love the way outcast you do that i love the way like silo and

all them like you know i'm saying guilt uh kujo all of them they used to always have this edge it's like oh we can teach you we can put you on some facts or whatever or you can get your motherfucking ad work that's right and that duality is just like unparalleled did you grow up on them like i mean of course you younger but yeah they put like the brothers and sisters put you on for a show my brother and sisters like was in love did both the brothers and sisters put you on? For sure. My brother and sisters was in love with all that. My brother and sisters have so much of a different taste. You know what I'm saying? They was listening to old funk stuff or, of course, Outkast and all that stuff.

And then one of my sisters loved electric rock stuff. She was on to the Kurt Cobain and all the Red Hot Chili Peppers and all that type of stuff. So that gives you an edge when you get to hear all the music as the baby in the family. Yeah. That you guys listening to. And then we like super musically inclined. My whole family can do something. Well not whole family, but everybody's kind of pretty smart and got talents of their own

perspective. You also took singing lessons. For sure. For this album though. sure for this album. No only for this album really Yeah, you wanna hit your own melodies. Yeah, miss Beverly Johnson appreciate you miss Beverly you killed it um My voice said I messed up 2019 I did like 250 shows I was just touring all year turn to a turn and then my voice was messed up so much a show How much I'm getting for sure show? Yeah, how much was you making? In 2019? Yeah, in 2019.

For festivals or like my own? I'm just trying to do some math. I'm going to do an additive in my head. You're trying to pocket watch. I'm going to take it slow, though. I'm going to take it slow. No, in 2019, I'd say $450, something like that. Okay, okay.

Yeah, right now it's real disgusting, though. Three years later, you know, it's up. Yeah, something like that. Okay, okay. Yeah, right now it's real disgusting, though. Okay. Three years later, you know, it's up. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah. All right. So you said your voice got messed up?

Messed your voice, yep. Messed it up just doing a lot of shows and stuff, a lot of stress on it. And then after that, I took a little time off, took some meds or whatever, got it right. Then I started taking singing lessons just because I'm like, all right, this is the only way. This is one of the ways you can just elevate your artistry i already got like a nice voice and i know how to write so and i know what i like i feel

like i have a great taste level of music so i just took singing lessons you know what i'm saying for a couple of months and it hit for me like it worked out because i got certain notes off that i wanted to get off on the album and then even on the tiny Desk, I did okay on the Tiny Desk. I think I did good. She called me disgusted, cussing me out because I missed certain notes. Who, Ms. Johnson? Yeah. She was like, I can tell you've been smoking.

You ain't sit there and breathe. You was trying to be da-da-da, do all this stuff, but you didn't focus on the notes. I was like, yes, please, never leave my life because this type of making me own that, you know what I'm saying, and holding me responsible for that that's going to keep me like going forward i love all the songs from round sound too yeah with baby tate and 21 savage yeah yeah yeah what is it about dreamville that brings out like i love 21. i think yeah i think 21 so underrated as a rapper but what about dreamville brings out the best in 21. me and savage from sain hood like he's like right down the block like nudie savage like wow i'm saying i mean nudie get it used to get i had cut at the same place on both chris

flash shows um so it's just like different spectrum different sides of the spectrum like i said and bruh is really one of the most improved and talented and he's smart as hell so with those combinations bro and then he work hard, of course you're going to get to the place he is right now. I think, I don't know. I don't know. I just think he's like super talented. You know what I'm saying?

Just a genuine guy, bro. Everything he deserves, he getting it just because what he's standing on or whatever. His morals and stuff like that. And I just try to do songs with people that I can morally stand beside. You know what I'm saying? Because I don't really like to morals and stuff like that. And I just try to like do songs with people that I can morally like stand beside. You know what I'm saying? Because I don't really

like fuck with everybody like that. But yeah, that's one of the people I just think, he just worked with Dreamville because just, I don't know.

I don't know what it is, bro. Just good energy, frequencies, like good people. And that was Meazy on the voicemail, right? Yeah, that was Meazy on the dog.

I knew Meazy before he had to go T. Oh, okay, okay, okay. Yeah, real Eastside legend. All right. Okay, so Iicemail, right? Yeah, that was Meazy. I'm a dog. I knew Meazy before he had the goatee. Oh, okay, okay, okay, okay. Yeah, real East Side legend. All right. It's okay. I was wondering. I was like, damn, I get it now because it was Meazy, but then it went into the song

with 21, but I'm like, okay, it makes sense. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But actually, y'all grew up together. Michelle, like, yeah, same hood. All right. Are you paying attention to the elections in Georgia? Hershel Walker and Raphael Warnock. I heard you supporting Hershel Walker.

Crazy. Bro, I seen a tweet. I heard you did a song for his campaign bro i've seen a tweet it's gonna be crazy i've seen the tweet i i'm sure they're saying it because it's cte what the niggas say niggas say i don't know if i can say it niggas, Herschel Walker sucked my dick in eighth grade. Vote for Raphael Ward. What? I'm sure it was a joke. But why would you say that, bro?

I couldn't retweet it, but I guess I just said it on a breakfast club. So it's out there now. Why can't he vote for him just because he gave him some head? Why would he say that? That's like a real crazy thing to say. I guess everything Hershel Walker stands for is opposite. Bro, I just think it's because they say, bro, brain melting a little bit, bro.

Bro just played football for too long, bro. He just like deep south. I can't rock. I think he's a good communicator, though. I think that there's probably more people in Georgia who sound like him or got family that sound like him than they do the Raphael Wardrocks of the world. I think people just like celebrities

too sometimes. Football player. And they get entertained by watching him talk about things. And he talks straight. Yeah, he's from like, gulla gulla. That's what I'm saying.

Politicians can go over your head sometimes. He's just talking directly to you. And I think sometimes that connects with people. Bam. Do you feel like a responsibility when it comes to talking about voting and politics at all? Or are you just... I hate all of that stuff. I hate politics And all that stuff

I don't even like I know it's good For the community Like voting Locally For your neighborhood And all of that stuff But when it gets to like

The higher level And all of the The I don't I don't like it bro I don't I don't really fuck with it Just cause of the

What's going on With black people And everything I've seen Since I've been on earth Like it's just like all conditions have not changed it really make me mad bro I really be mad as hell

like kind of like every day what Alec Baldwin said like to be conscious of your whereabouts to be negro in this country to be conscious is to be in a constant state of rage I know we fucked that up but we're in the ballpark

we fucked it up but yeah bro I be I be upset and I be like okay what can I do to like

add a a grain of sand into this sea of change that we wanna see music music music

and I try to speak about it if you listen to like Radar it's the the song on the album, the second song. Second song, yeah. I'm talking real like, it's kind of, if you listen to it and you see what I'm talking about, and you're like, oh, he really popping shit. But I just kind of like glossed it up. I made it like, I threw a suit on a pig. You know what I'm saying?

Because Atlanta is such an interesting place right now. For sure. Seeing how many people move there. And then what's going on with the people getting locked up and all of that. Atlanta kind of crazy right now. Stay inside, for real. Right. Yeah.

Are you afraid to move around? Not afraid, but are you cautious? No, I've been in my whole life, so I know exactly how to move. I know exactly what to do. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. It's different for you because there's so many people coming to Atlanta. Yeah. Doing all kinds of wild stuff. They don't know how to move. I know what's going on. that's what I'm saying. It's different for you because there's so many people coming to Atlanta doing all kinds of wild stuff.

They don't know how to move. I know what's going on. You know what I'm saying? And I ain't saying that puts me above or out of any danger or anything, but it's just like,

all right. That's a different level of awareness. But show, just show respect to this, you know what I'm saying? And move around diligently like you're supposed to do.

What do you think the single is off this record? Because I got an idea. Surround, first off, Surround Sound was the fastest record I ever had go go we dropped that in january it went gold the day the album dropped wow so that's like once that was the fastest thanks to 21 and baby taylor y'all killed it um dance now has been going crazy dance now on the tiktok yeah on tiktok it's going crazy shoot at the ground that's what you were saying shoot at the ground dance yeah yeah yeah from the harlem nights yeah yeah yeah i was

thinking money even though that's only because i love that sample i think that sample is phenomenal smoked that appreciate crisis for that for real you know what bro crazy I was at dr. Dre house one of my dogs same like flex like flex who is there um and when he's amazing producers gave me a beat and that's the story what you was doing that Dre house would you writing working yeah we tap we tapped in um worked on some shit rice I feel like everybody knows you're one of the best young lyricists out there. And what happens sometimes

with people like you is everybody want to take your sauce before you get a chance to shine on it. Even though you've been doing quite well. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

I'm on their head, though. On everybody, even Dre here. All of them. Everybody who is like number one or number top five, I'm really on their head. I'm really like, yeah, not playing with them for real. So you're going to drop again soon?

For sure. Not before the year's over, right? For sure. And you got the tour coming up. Yeah, sold out. With Smino, yeah. Yeah, big sold out. So hold on, you're going to drop another album before the year's over?

Not, probably not an album. I'm just dropping music, though. Okay. Whether it's Lucy's, whether it's... Deluxe, deluxe. You know what I'm saying? I'm going to put some more music out there because I took like three years

just to figure this project out. Like I said, I was stepping into my manhood, stepping into the person I am today, so I wasn't really in a rush for anything because I know we in a fast food society, you know what I'm saying? Everybody want instant gratification. Everybody want their music now, now, now now I was just like no like I'm not in

that space right now I'm still unlearning I'm relearning you know I'm saying it's still stuff going on that I'm dealing with like I've dealt with a lot of family shit a lot of tragedies a lot of like good things going on but it just took a minute you know I'm saying just to figure out my place in this because it's a crazy industry. You know what I'm saying? There's a lot of stuff going on. You can find yourself in a million different type situations if you don't, like, keep your head level.

So I just try and stay in my peace, you know what I'm saying, try and stay in my bag. I'm a wild nigga, but at the same time, I'm smart enough to, like, analyze situations and figure out what could be the best for my longevity or whatever the case may be whatever in the cause I do like some things that you wrote when it comes to your family or things in your life that you were like I'm not sure if I should put this and maybe didn't yeah cuz my my sense of human pretty bad it's pretty dark so it come up and me learning how to rap came from

a place of like oh i love like little wayne says crazy things i love how crazy eminem is i love future i love you know what i'm saying i love thug i love yeet i love like all these different type of artists like how do i find i said y'all gotta check it out that's crazy i love you though um i don't know who that is but i know i know I just threw it out there because I was talking to my dog Zach whatever he got songs on no no no no I was just listening

to him on the way here oh so you don't got nothing out yet no he got something out he got something out I was just I was just listening to him so that his name

just popped in my head I kind of lost my point what I was saying you were talking about things you didn't put on the album yeah yeah yeah just yeah it's always

stuff like that I gotta dial it back sometimes because I just know how to articulate whatever I'm trying to say through music and sometimes I just be like,

nah, that's too much. You know what I'm saying? Because I, I don't know. It used to be a lot. Yeah. You gotta think about other people

and sometimes, like you said, they'll be offended maybe. Yeah, they be at my door about that. Like, even on this album, like, my family's like, oh, you talked about this?

Mm-hmm, okay. Like, it wasn't nothing bad but at the same time, okay, at my door about that. Even on this album, my family's like, oh, you talked about this? Mm-hmm, okay. It wasn't nothing bad, but at the same time, okay, you decided to do that. That's your perspective, though. Yeah. You know what I mean? And sometimes it's better to put it out there. Then y'all can have a conversation about it after the fact. Instead of like, hey, I'm about to do this.

That's right. And asking for forgiveness type situation. That's right. Yeah. Listen, man, J. Make sure y'all go check out the Forever Story. Great building with you my brother

likewise man and I can't wait to hear more music and just keep keep going man keep growing bro for sure keep skinning cats

yeah I know please don't skin no cats if you skin cats I'm gonna call you a cracker and I don't even

get on Twitter but I'm gonna get on Twitter and say Jed is a cracker for sure I love it it's the breakfast club. Had enough of this country?

Ever dreamt about starting your own? I planted the flag. This is mine. I own this. It's surprisingly easy. 55 gallons of water, 500 pounds of concrete. Or maybe not. No country willingly gives up their territory.

Oh my God. What is that? Bullets. Listen to Escape from Zakistan. That's Escape from Z-A-Q-istan on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey guys, I'm Kate Max.

You might know me from my popular online series, The Running Interview Show, where I run with celebrities, athletes, entrepreneurs, and more. After those runs, the conversations keep going. That's what my podcast, Post Run High, is all about. It's a chance to sit down with my guests and dive even deeper into their stories, their journeys, and the thoughts that arise once we've hit the pavement together. Listen to Post Run High on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. As a kid, I really do remember having these dreams and visions,

but you just don't know what is going to come for you. Alicia shares her wisdom on growth, gratitude, and the power of love. I forgive myself. It's okay. Have grace for yourself. You're trying your best. And you're going to figure out the rhythm of this thing.

Alicia Keys, like you've never heard her before. Listen to On Purpose with Jay Shetty on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, y'all. Niminy here.

I'm the host of a brand new history podcast for kids and families called Historical Records. Executive produced by Questlove, the Story Pirates, and John Glickman, Historical Records brings history to life through hip-hop. Flash, slam, another one gone. Bash, bam, another one gone. The crack of the bat and another one gone. The tip of the cap, there's another one gone. Each episode is about a different inspiring figure from history.

Like this one about Claudette Colvin, a 15-year-old girl in Alabama who refused to give up her seat on the city bus nine whole months before Rosa Parks did the same thing. Check it. Get the kids in your life excited about history by tuning in to Historical Records. Because in order to make history, you have to make some noise. Listen to Historical Records on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, everyone. This is Courtney Thorne-Smith, Laura Layton, and Daphne Zuniga. On July 8, 1992, apartment buildings with pools were never quite the same as Melrose Place was introduced to the world. We are going to be reliving every hookup, every scandal and every single wig removal

together. So listen to Still the Place on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you listen to podcasts.