The Breakfast Club - Juicy J Talks New Memoir, Three 6 Mafia Sound, Addiction, Depression + More

Episode Date: September 11, 2023

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Starting point is 00:02:49 Yo, yo, what's good, man? What's with the mask, Juicy J? You're promoting a book, your memoir, Juicy J. Not a horror movie. I know you love horror movies, but damn. Hey, man, I'm an advocate of mental health awareness, so I just wear this mask to show people, like, hey, man, it's a different side.
Starting point is 00:03:07 You don't have to do nothing crazy or harm yourself or harm other people. You can always get some help. Call 988, any kind of hotline, or reach out to an organization to take care of your mental health. And with the straitjacket. And the straitjacket, too.
Starting point is 00:03:19 I'm not mad at it. I'm a big mental health advocate, too. So if you're doing that to raise mental health awareness, I ain't mad at it. Yep. I'm going to need my own assistant. She can you're doing that to raise mental health awareness, I ain't mad at it. Yep. I'm going to need my own assistant. She can take my mask off. That's cool.
Starting point is 00:03:28 Okay. It's hard to talk in this. Juicy J said Halloween came earlier. Yeah. You know what I mean? There we go. There you go. There you go.
Starting point is 00:03:37 There we go. Come on, show them you ain't aging, Juicy J. Yeah, man. There you go. There you go. Fresh line up. You know me, hairline intact. Still 30 years old, man. There you go. You know what I'm saying intact still 30 years old man there you go i'm saying still 30 years old there we go thank you juice has an amazing book out right now
Starting point is 00:03:50 called chronicles of the juice man a memoir i'm gonna be honest with you i got this book a couple weeks ago and i was like i didn't even know juicy j had a book coming out yeah yeah yeah and from the first from the prologue it's exciting thank you man so many questions about the book but i never knew first things first that they had flavored cocaine yeah watermelon cotton candy is that what you want to jump in that why before we get watermelon flavored cocaine with flavored cocaine i didn't know they had that hey it was crazy when i seen it i was just like y'all's like what the fuck how y'all put the flavors in there yeah i. I'm not going to try it, but you know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:04:26 What made you write the book? Let's start there. I always wanted to write a book. You know what I'm saying? I've been doing this for a long time. Y'all been seeing me. I've been knowing half of you motherfuckers when y'all was interns and shit. So it's just that time.
Starting point is 00:04:38 And it was very difficult when I was doing a book, me and Soren Baker. He wrote it with me. My mom, she got diagnosed with cancer the time I was writing this book. So we was just like, it was very, very, very, I had a very hard time trying to finish it. But we broke through, we finished it. You know what I'm saying? Rest in peace and here we are.
Starting point is 00:04:55 So I always wanted to do this. That'd be the most interesting thing about memoirs, man. Your life in the industry was great, but it's the stories before the industry that made a Juicy J that's even more interesting. Yes, yes, yep. What made you want to name your memoir after the first solo album?
Starting point is 00:05:14 I mean, it talks about it. I mean, it's Kronkow's. It's my life, you know what I'm saying? It's telling everything about what's going on. So, I mean, I just used it. It was perfect, you know what I'm saying? It matches everything from my story and everything. So, it's a perfect fit. i'm saying it um it matches everything with you know from my story and everything so it's perfect fit that's how i looked at it was there anything that you had to
Starting point is 00:05:29 take out you know we've been reading you know a lot of our ogs in this game have been writing books from gz to fadjo the recent ones was anything that you had to take out because you were so brutally honest in this book yeah i had some yeah it's a few things man um i'm not gonna say no names but it was some some you know i had some people come to me about killing themselves in yeah it's a few things man I'm not gonna say no names but it was some you know I had some people come to me about killing themselves in the book
Starting point is 00:05:49 it's more than maybe like three or four people I had put in the book and then when they read it it was like you know like the lawyers and stuff was like man you can't put
Starting point is 00:05:55 all this stuff in there and then I talked to some of the people and they didn't want me to do that so I took it out and you never tried cocaine no
Starting point is 00:06:02 contrary to popular belief no no no you never tried cocaine but you talk about why in the book. Can you touch on that a little bit? Yeah. When I was a kid, I was watching TV, and I seen this basketball player named Len Byers. That's right. And they said, oh, Len Byers, he died on cocaine.
Starting point is 00:06:17 And I was looking at TV like, cocaine? I didn't know what it was. I was like, cocaine? I was like, I ain't never doing cocaine. When I seen that, it stuck in my head. I said, I just felt like if I did it, what it was. I was like, cocaine. I was like, I ain't never doing cocaine. Like, when I seen that, that stuck in my head. I said, I just felt like if I did it, I'd die. And then, like, as soon as I arrived to that, you know, I would think I could have been, I don't know,
Starting point is 00:06:32 I could have been 13, 14. And the older I got, you know, I started getting approached in Memphis. Like, you know, I would see people in the street. They'd be like, hey, man, you want some coke? Hey, you want this? You want that? And I was like, first thing that came to my mind, like, that's stuff that Len Bias took.
Starting point is 00:06:42 I said, hell no, man, I ain't taking that shit. No matter what flavor it come in. Yeah, yeah, fuck that. And you've always seemed to have a sense of self-awareness about yourself that other people around you didn't seem to have. How has that self-awareness helped or hurt you in life? You said helped or hurt? Yeah, helped or hurt.
Starting point is 00:07:01 I don't really think it hurt me. I think it kept me to survive. I survived off that. It's weird. I have these two voices in my head. I have one voice be like, hey, hey, hey, do this, do that, smash that without the rubber, whatever. Then I have another voice be like, man, don't, like, you know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:07:16 You know what happened to EZ? I'm like, real shit, I had these voices in my head telling me, like one is telling me to go, one is telling me, no, you might don't want to do that because, you know, this girl might be this, might get a pregnant in and child support and all you know it's just all kind of crazy shit even just whatever not just saying just with females just what in the street stuff you know it's times I you know I talked about in the book I had the strap about
Starting point is 00:07:35 to blow somebody ass off and then like one minute something's telling me to go then something's like nah man you might don't want to do that cuz this person you know he might snitch on you. Can you trust this nigga? You wit, you know what I'm saying? So stuff like that, man. And it's good that that happened like that because I'm here today. The reason I say the self-awareness hurt
Starting point is 00:07:54 is because sometimes you might be too critical on yourself. I see that throughout the book. Like, you know, whether it's about, oh, 3-6 music is whack. I'm like, I don't remember that time. Like, you know what I mean? Like, stuff like that. Like, you might have been a little too hard on yourself. Well, I'm very remember that time. You know what I mean? Stuff like that. You might have been a little too hard on yourself.
Starting point is 00:08:06 Well, I'm very hard on myself. I'm very hard on myself. I didn't say it was whack, I don't think. I think I said it didn't sound right at the time when we was in L.A. because we was lost in the sauce. I felt like when I was in L.A. for so long, I lost my taste of sound and music and what the wave was and everything. You know what I'm saying? I'm usually on top of that
Starting point is 00:08:26 and never fell off of that. But when I was in LA partying and kicking and drinking so much and popping pills, I lost it all. I'm doing music that was... I was stuck. You know what I mean? Some people move forward. I was stuck in 2005, somewhere around 2003. You know what I'm saying? I was stuck in that era.
Starting point is 00:08:42 When it was 2008, music was totally different. What got you out of I'm saying? I was stuck in that era. And then when it was 2008, music was totally different. What got you out of that slump? I got the hell out of L.A. and I moved back to Memphis. You know what I'm saying? Like, immediately, I sold my house. I was like, I'm getting the fuck out of here. Everybody's like, you're leaving, man.
Starting point is 00:08:55 I'm gone, bro. Like, if I stay here, man, I'm going to be fucked up. I'm going to kill myself because I was doing so much drugs and Vicodin and shit, Adderall, all kind of shit, bro. I had a medicine cabinet full of shit. Like, you could have came, I could have prescribed you some shit, bro. Because I had so many people, you know, doctors,
Starting point is 00:09:13 like, you know what I'm saying? I never get my shit up the street. I never fuck with that street shit. I always get my shit straight from the doctors, you know what I'm saying? So I had these, I call them wacky doctors, you know what I'm saying? They would give me all kind of shit,
Starting point is 00:09:22 you know what I'm saying? Whatever I want, I give them $100, $200, they'd be like, all right, what you know what I'm saying whatever I want I give them $100, $200 they'd be like alright what you want the funniest part of that story I mean there's always humor
Starting point is 00:09:29 in everything right yeah you talk about how the girl you told your girlfriend at the time to come pick you up yeah cause you might kill yourself
Starting point is 00:09:35 yeah and then it's like two sentences later so I broke up with that girl and I moved I moved back to Memphis I'm like what yeah
Starting point is 00:09:42 she came to your age yeah yeah yeah for real she did you know what I'm saying and I appreciate that you know thank you you know. I'm like, what? Yeah. She came to your age. Yeah, yeah, yeah, for real. She did, you know what I'm saying? And I appreciate that. You know, thank you, you know what I'm saying? But I just, I was to the point where I just needed,
Starting point is 00:09:51 I needed to get out. So, you know, I had a lot of stress and a lot of pressure. I was just pressured, but I was stuck, you know what I mean? Like, I'm so used to making great music with the group
Starting point is 00:10:00 and everything was moving forward and everything was falling apart. So I was like, you know, I was, man, I was really depressed, bro. I was drinking, crying. It was apart. So I was like, you know, I was really depressed, bro. I was drinking, crying. It was just like, I was hurt, man. You know what I'm saying? And people wouldn't think that
Starting point is 00:10:11 because you was having the most success. You know, y'all had just won the Oscar. You had the MTV show. You know? Nobody would think you was depressed. Yeah, people would see me, they would see me drinking, but I was drinking to escape. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:10:23 I was really trying to get away from the pain I had that was going on with me. You know what I'm saying? I was really trying to get away from the pain I had that was going on with me. You know what I'm saying? Y'all probably seen me during that time just around because we was partying. I was running to everybody. Yeah, I was smiling and drinking, but deep down I was not feeling too good, man. I was really fucked up. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:10:38 And I refuse to believe, man, that you ever wore two rubbers. I don't know why people be telling that goddamn lie. It's impossible. I did. You can't put on two rubbers but you can yes i did i don't believe you i did i don't believe you i just believe that well hey man that's when did you stop then uh when did you stop i mean when i when i settled down you know i'm saying you know i i said all right you know fuck the rubbers you know i mean i sat down with you I settle down you know saying you know I said I you know I'm so down with you know one girl you know yeah yeah I was come I was I was I was going crazy bro I was two three girls a night you know I'm saying I was yeah but you did this in high school you wrote this record in high school the record of slobber my knob no before slobber it was another one don't be
Starting point is 00:11:22 scared don't rub on it yeah yeah don Scared, Put the Rub on the Head. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Don't Be Scared, Put the Rub on the Head. There you go. You know what? After Don't Be, well, I had a situation, you know what I'm saying? I was with this chick, yeah, and then I got, you know, sizzled. And then I wrote this song called Don't Be Scared, Put the Rub on the Head. Yeah. For rubber, you know, like safe sex. But it was a hit in the hood.
Starting point is 00:11:41 Yeah. Because it was walking around in the club. Well, I can't say club because I wasn't really going in the clubs like that. But I would see niggas in the street and, you know, like people playing hit in the hood. Yeah. Niggas was walking around in the club. Well, I can't say club, because I wasn't really going in the clubs like that, but I would see niggas in the street, and people playing it in their cars. Don't be scared. Put a rubber on the head. It was just a chant.
Starting point is 00:11:54 So you were never even scared to talk about the STDs in this book either. No, fuck it. You know what I mean? It's real. A lot of motherfuckers out here didn't get burnt before. Burn the fuck up! DJ, you know what I'm saying? I ain't never had FDD
Starting point is 00:12:05 never in my life promise to God never had FDD in my life grace of God I ain't judging though you said you moved back to Memphis right what did Memphis mean to you
Starting point is 00:12:14 you know recently I did a car show in Memphis and I see how much Memphis supports Memphis so talk about why you left Memphis and then why you thought you had to come back
Starting point is 00:12:22 because a lot of people say they have to leave Memphis because a lot of times the hood takes them out. Yeah, I had to come back to get my mind right. You know what I'm saying? I just wasn't grounded. I had been in L.A. too long. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:12:33 It took me over. My music was sounding different. I was moving different. I was doing a lot of crazy drugs. And so I went straight back to Memphis. And I just went back to the hood. Hung out with my niggas and chilled. And, you know, I got my vibes back.
Starting point is 00:12:46 I understood what my grounds were, my roots, you know what I'm saying? And then I was like, all right, well, cool. I can go anywhere in the world, and I'll never lose my sound again. I didn't know you and Project Pat was actually brothers, and I didn't know Paul was Lord Infamous' uncle. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:12:59 Does it make it harder or easier working with family? No, no, no, it's cool. It's everything, you know what I'm saying? I'm glad I work with my family, man, because my brother is one of the persons that brought me out of this shit. You know what I'm saying? I was in L.A. He would come in there.
Starting point is 00:13:14 I'd be laid out on some lean. He'd be like, what the fuck y'all doing? Y'all niggas ain't hot no more. He would tell me that. You know, I'd be like, what? Nigga, what you say? You heard what I said. Y'all ain't hot. I'm in the clubs, nigga. You niggas out here in L.A. high as shit. You know I be like What nigga what you say You heard what I said Y'all ain't hot
Starting point is 00:13:25 I'm in the clubs nigga You niggas out here In LA high as shit You know what I'm saying They ain't playing no Three six mafia in the clubs No more That shit done
Starting point is 00:13:31 Damn It's new niggas out here man Y'all He said man y'all beats Don't even sound the same Man y'all shit ain't got no Y'all ain't He said you gotta put that
Starting point is 00:13:37 Hand bass in y'all beats He said man listen y'all Listen to this bass Listen to y'all bass You know he playing I think he was playing Some drummer boy stuff He listen to this nigga bass
Starting point is 00:13:43 Listen to y'all bass Y'all bass ain't And I was playing, I think he was playing some drummer boy stuff. He listen to this nigga bass. This is y'all bass. Y'all bass. And I was like, you're right. I mean, he told the truth, man. That's what you need.
Starting point is 00:13:50 I mean, like, I don't need no yes man. I don't like yes man around me. I like niggas tell me if I'm doing something crazy, I would always tell people in the group,
Starting point is 00:13:56 man, look, if I, if I one time picked up Lord Infamous, right, I took him to the, tried to take him to the rehab.
Starting point is 00:14:01 He didn't want to do it. We, we, we riding around the neighborhood for almost an hour and a half. I'm trying to get this nigga to, bro, you need some help? You need some help? He's like, nah, man, I'm cool.
Starting point is 00:14:08 We're talking. And I told him, I said, look, man, look, I'm just looking at you as a friend, brother. I love you. I don't want nothing to happen to you. And I said, if you see something I'm doing, please tell me. Don't yes, man, me, my nigga. You know what I'm saying? Don't be like, yeah, Juicy Go.
Starting point is 00:14:20 You see me doing anything crazy drugs or with the wrong crazy bitch, or you think I'm with some skis or something, I'm about to get robbed, or whatever you feel that ain't right, please tell me, you know what I'm saying? I tell Paul, anybody in my group or anybody around me, like, don't yes-man me, man, you know what I'm saying? You know, check me, nigga,
Starting point is 00:14:37 if you see me doing something crazy. Because I want to live. I don't want to go to jail or do some stupid shit, you know? But that's how I am, man. That's how I am. What's taught you more about life, being in the industry or the life you shit, you know? But this is how I am. What's taught you more about life, being in the industry or the life you lived before the industry?
Starting point is 00:14:49 I say the life I lived before the industry because if I didn't go through all the stuff, you know what I'm saying, in North Memphis, I wouldn't be where I am today. You know? Facts. I was going to ask you, you know, there was one time they used to say
Starting point is 00:15:02 that the music that you guys put out was demonic and that was like the thing. How bad did that affect y'all? I was going to ask you, you know, there was one time they used to say that the music that you guys put out was demonic. And that was like the thing. How bad did that affect y'all? Man, to me, the music, I mean, I'm a church nigga, man. So, I mean, I looked at this shit like, you know, like, y'all niggas ain't no devil worship. Ain't nobody fucking, you know what I'm saying, worship no devil or touching a Ouija board or whatever the fuck y'all think it is. No, I just looked at it like, hey, man, it is what it is.
Starting point is 00:15:27 But I felt like we had to clean the name up, so we changed the name to 3-6 Mafia. Because I felt like it just, because everybody was scared. The record label was like, I don't know, man, I don't know. We might want to sign it. We might don't. So it was, you know, whatever, man. We changed the name up, and then things started coming together.
Starting point is 00:15:42 Even saying in the book how, you know, that the 3-6 Mafia thing, the devil worshiper thing, was kind of a gimmick. That's what I felt. You know what I'm saying? I didn't see nobody worship the devil, so I just looked at it like a gimmick. I didn't look at it like it was really worshipping the devil. You know what I'm saying? But, I mean, Memphis was a dark city, so it was a dark time. So, you know, 666 Mafia was perfect for that at the time.
Starting point is 00:16:03 You know what I'm saying? Because Memphis is still dark. But it was like, it's crazy and not back then, but, you know, that's what I'm saying. I was coming from that, so it was cool. But then, like, later on, we started making, you know, more music and a couple more albums. We brought this album out called The End. We had changed everything.
Starting point is 00:16:18 It went from Triple Six to Three Six, and it was better. You know, our sound, we stepped our game up on the sound. We had a couple of records on there that was a little bit more radio friendly. Nobody wanted to play our shit on the radio so we had a couple of records
Starting point is 00:16:29 on there radio friendly. So yeah, man, you know, it's just about growth. I was going to ask how difficult was that coming up, you know, because the sound was different.
Starting point is 00:16:36 It was a sound that we haven't heard before. How difficult was it breaking into different markets outside of Memphis? Man, we didn't give a fuck. We just did what we did. You know,
Starting point is 00:16:44 people caught on. You know what I'm saying? We just experimented with a lot of things. Man, me and Paul was one of the most greatest producers of all time. I mean, we would experiment. I don't want to give all my formula away. You know what I'm saying? You got to read the book and pay for that.
Starting point is 00:16:58 But we experiment with a lot of different things, man. We are real artists. You know what I'm saying? We ain't just niggas just walking in and just make a beat. We bring the pain. You might walk in our studio, you might see a whole fucking orchestra in that motherfucker. You know what I'm saying? And like we just had, our minds was just bigger than just making a couple of beats.
Starting point is 00:17:17 And that was it. Like I had the SP-1200. I would make beats on that, but then I would add extra shit to it. And I can't tell you how I did it, but it you know, it's a secret how we made our music. Well, the formula to me was Memphis. It was Memphis. You know what I'm saying? That's what I love about the book, too,
Starting point is 00:17:30 how you detail Memphis' music history. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Everything, everything, our sound, everything came from the city. You know what I'm saying? But just the way we made our beats, we had like a certain kind of formula we made our beats. Like, you know, some people make their beats a certain way. Some people make, you know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:17:45 We had our way we made our beats. Because everybody's like, how y'all make y'all bass sound like this? How y'all make y'all kick sound like this? How y'all make y'all, you know what I'm saying, snare sound like that? So we was very, we made our own, we created our own snares. We created our own kicks. See what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:17:57 We didn't get our kick from somebody else. We created it. Now you talk about the drug use in the book, and, you know, you just mentioned it now. What got you to slow down on the drug use? Was it the birth of your kids? Was it Mom Dukes? Was it not in the zone?
Starting point is 00:18:10 What got you out of that? God called that time out. Yeah, it was getting crazy. I remember I was at a show in Atlanta, and I was coming from Atlanta. I was doing a lot of Xanax. I was drinking that Bombay. Man, I was just like really really fucked up you know what I'm saying
Starting point is 00:18:25 like slumped over in the car and my bodyguard was like hit me like this hey man he just whispered on my ear take it easy he's on the drugs man you're looking bad man
Starting point is 00:18:34 you know and on the ride home I just had tears in my eyes I was just thinking about 3-6 Mafia and how can we get this group back together and we could figure shit out
Starting point is 00:18:43 you know what I'm saying and so you know that was just one incident how can we get this group back together and we could figure shit out. You know what I'm saying? And so that was just one incident and then I did a show in New York and I had left my Xanax in the room and boy, see I didn't know the power of Xanax. You gotta take them just every day. If you miss a couple days
Starting point is 00:19:01 and you start getting these body this crazy body aches talking like this shit is like man i was like scratching i was like tweaking i was like man i said i don't feel right i'm telling ray i was like man i don't feel good man i didn't take my zans and shit i left them in the room and then we did the show and i was sweating on stage and man it was just like crucial so then i remember we went to atlanta kind of just kind of moving forward because we were flying all over the place i went to atlanta because when i got back to the room i took the zan so i was cool i was like oh jeez so then i went we went to atlanta and i made a mistake one left the zans in the room again and we did to do the show i just man at that day man
Starting point is 00:19:37 i was really feeling really down bro i was like just like slumped over and i was like man i'm not feeling good man and i was outside the club and i was telling mike will I was like, man, I'm not feeling good, man. And I was outside the club, and I was telling Mike Will, I was like, man, I left my Zans in the fucking hotel room. He said, oh, man, I know you fucking going through it. And after that, I was like, man, I can't do this shit no more. And my manager, my cousin, took me to a doctor, and the doctor told me how to get off the Xanax. Did you have to go to rehab, or was it something that he gave you?
Starting point is 00:20:01 No, well, he just told me I was taking a whole one. He said, take a half one. He said, take a half one. He said, take a half and you'll gradually just get off of it. And I said, oh, really? So I just started taking a half and I just gradually just. Half, quarter, tenth. Yeah, and I got off of it. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:20:16 And right today, I mean, I'm cool. And don't get me wrong. There's times I've been on a plane. I might take a Xanax. I'm on an airplane. But I'm not addicted like that. You know what I'm saying? I actually really need them. They prescribed to me. I really, really need them. But'm not addicted like that. I actually really need them. They prescribed
Starting point is 00:20:25 to me. I really need them, but I don't take them like I used to take them. I used to be just taking them, taking them, drinking alcohol, fucking sip some lean, fucking, you know what I'm saying? I remember I was in fucking Toronto. I was sipping lean, taking Xanax, and I just felt like my body was just slowing down. I was like, oh, and then that voice hit me in the head
Starting point is 00:20:41 like, put that damn lean out. And then one voice said, man, you gonna put that lean out? That's a lot of lean, man. That's good lean. Then the other voice was the head like put a damn lean out and then one voice say you can put it lean that's a lot lean that's good lean then other voice like now put a lean out not to put the shit out I said fuck it I want to leave man any appears can't come up to you and talk to you about it cuz I mean in the industry there's so many people that that have been on it got off of it have been on it we've seen lose so many people that any appears say let me talk to you see my parents pick your. Anybody else in the industry?
Starting point is 00:21:05 Oh, no, no, no, no, no, no. No, nobody. Nobody said anything to me but my family, the people that was close to me, like my manager and my bodyguards and stuff, people from Memphis. Well, you had a lot of people close to you that didn't get the opportunity to shake it like you did. You know, you think of the Mac Millers and the Gangsta Boos, God bless the dead.
Starting point is 00:21:24 You think there was a point you wish you could have, like, I don't know, intervened with them or you couldn't help them because you of the Mac Millers and the Gangsta Boos, God Bless the Dead. You think there was a point you wish you could have, I don't know, intervened with them or you couldn't help them because you couldn't even help yourself at the time? Well,
Starting point is 00:21:30 back in the day when Three 6 Mile we first started, I wasn't really doing a lot of drugs like everybody else. You know what I'm saying? I might sip a little lean here,
Starting point is 00:21:37 smoke a little taste of weed there. I was a heavy drinker, but I didn't do drugs like they did drugs. They was really going hard with the cocaine. And Lord was on a little heroin here and there. You know what I'm saying? It was very, very serious.
Starting point is 00:21:51 So my situation was I was trying to get everybody off. Not so much I was trying to get everybody off of the... I really didn't give a fuck about the syrup and the pills because I feel like that really wasn't a problem. The problem I saw was the cocaine. Because when they do cocaine, when they come off those withdrawals, they go crazy. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:22:08 It makes you mad. It makes you like you're a tough guy. You know what I'm saying? Niggas would hit that cocaine boy, they would fucking tear shit up. All of them go in the club. Hit a club up for real. You know what I'm saying? Motherfucker would throw, man, I seen Paul throw a chair at a motherfucker,
Starting point is 00:22:20 shoot a strap. You know what I'm saying? Motherfucker go crazy. You know what I'm saying? Niggas was just turnt up like that. And I was only half sober nigga. When I mean half sober, I might have had a couple of drinks or something. But I'm still sane.
Starting point is 00:22:30 So I'm holding Paul back. Lord. Coop. You know what I'm saying? Coop was crazy as hell, man. I ain't going to lie. Rest in peace. But he would do anything.
Starting point is 00:22:39 Coop's a nigga. If you just say, man, let's just blow up a building, he'd be all for it. He was crazy like that. And Crunchy Black, same world. Crunchy Black was every he'd be like all for it. He was crazy like that, you know. And Crunchy Black, same world. Crunchy Black was every week he was going to jail. He was fighting shootouts, all kind of shit. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:22:51 Real shit. So I was just trying to, I wasn't as high as them. I was just trying to get that cocaine out the way. Because every time that cocaine was in the building, the shit would go down. The pills was cool. You know what I'm saying? I didn't see nothing going drastic with the pills. But the cocaine was in the building, the shit would go down. If the pills was cool, you know what I'm saying? I didn't see nothing going drastic with the pills, but the cocaine was crazy. Then when I seen Lorde on the Heron, I was like,
Starting point is 00:23:11 oh, this is getting a little different now. It's getting extra serious. And that's when he just kind of, he pretty much left the group on his own. I must have misread in the book. I thought at one point Lorde Infamous didn't do drugs, right? At a point he didn't. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? At a point he didn't. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:23:26 At a point he didn't, he just smoked a little weed. And then he just, you know, things started going up. You know what I'm saying? The more money we started getting, excuse me, things started going up. And I was just trying to, man, I was the main dude just trying to hold, you know, everybody back from doing that, I call it the white devil, you know what I'm saying, because it was really fucking shit up. And it was destroying white devil, you know what I'm saying? Because it was really fucking shit up. And it was destroying the group, you know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:23:48 And then, you know, things advanced. We won the Oscar, and then that was it. You know, we went Hollywood, and shit. How difficult was it to talk back to the members during that time when everybody went their own ways and everybody was having their own success? How difficult was it to say, you know what, let's put the group in front of everything else? It was very difficult, man, because they didn't listen to me. They just laughed at me. They thought I was talking shit. How difficult was it to say, you know what, let's put the group in front of everything else?
Starting point is 00:24:07 It was very difficult, man, because they didn't listen to me. They just laughed at me. They thought I was talking shit. Who was the most difficult to talk to? Lord have mercy, man. Rest in peace. He was a cold motherfucker, man. Like, he was the man, man.
Starting point is 00:24:19 He was hard to deal with. I remember we was in the car, and the nigga had, like, we got pulled over, right? They didn't find nothing in the car. And then I looked into his pocket. I said, nigga, I said i said man you better be glad they didn't check your pocket because his pocket this had some xanax um he had a lot of in his pocket like it's like his little he had like a little button down you know had like the side pocket his side pocket he had so much he's like oh i forgot all about that i forgot to hide that that's like oh after that day that was the day i said i can't ride with you niggas i wouldn't got my own transportation i wouldn't got this van we used to ride in like the same vans me and paul used to
Starting point is 00:24:52 drive the vans and then we start hiring drivers but is your country falling apart feeling tired depressed a little bit revolutionary consider this start your own country i planted the flag i just kind of looked out of like, this is mine. I own this. It's surprisingly easy. There's 55 gallons of water for 500 pounds of concrete. Everybody's doing it. I am King Ernest Emmanuel. I am the Queen of Ladonia.
Starting point is 00:25:15 I'm Jackson I, King of Kaperburg. I am the Supreme Leader of the Grand Republic of Mentonia. Be part of a great colonial tradition. Why can't I create my own country? My forefathers did that themselves. What could go wrong? Be part of a great colonial tradition. What could go wrong? I was making a rocket with a black powder, you know, with explosive warhead. Oh my God. What is that?
Starting point is 00:25:36 Bullets. Bullets. We need help! We still have the off-road portion to go. Listen to Escape from Zakistan. And we're losing daylight fast. That's Escape from Z-A-Q-istan on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, guys.
Starting point is 00:25:57 I'm Kate Max. You might know me from my popular online series, The Running Interview Show, where I run with celebrities, athletes, entrepreneurs, and more. After those runs, the conversations keep going. That's what my podcast, Post Run High, is all about. It's a chance to sit down with my guests and dive even deeper into their stories, their journeys, and the thoughts that arise once we've hit the pavement together. You know that rush of endorphins you feel after a great workout? Well, that's when the real magic happens. So if you love hearing real, inspiring stories from the people you know, follow, and admire, join me every week for Post Run High. It's where we take the conversation beyond the run and get into the heart of it all. It's lighthearted, pretty crazy,
Starting point is 00:26:46 and very fun. Listen to Post Run High on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. As a kid, I really do remember having these dreams and visions, but you just don't know what is going to come for you. Alicia Keys opens up about conquering doubt, learning to trust herself and leaning into her dreams. I think a lot of times we are built to doubt the possibilities for ourselves. For self-preservation and protection, it was literally that step by step. And so I discovered that that is how we
Starting point is 00:27:27 get where we're going. This increment of small, determined moments. Alicia shares her wisdom on growth, gratitude, and the power of love. I forgive myself. It's okay. Like grace. Have grace with yourself. You're trying your best and you're going to figure out the rhythm of this thing. Alicia Keys, like you've never heard her before. Listen to On Purpose with Jay Shetty on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey there, my little creeps. It's your favorite ghost host, Teresa.
Starting point is 00:28:00 And guess what? Haunting is back, dropping just in time for spooky season. Now I know you've probably been wandering the mortal plane, wondering when I'd be back to fill your ears with deliciously unsettling stories. Well, wonder no more, because we've got a ghoulishly good lineup ready for you. Let's just say things get a bit extra. We're talking spirits, demons, and the kind of supernatural chaos that'll make your spooky season complete. You know how much I love this time of year. It's the one time I'm actually on trend.
Starting point is 00:28:31 So grab your pumpkin spice, dust off that Ouija board, just don't call me unless it's urgent, and tune in for new episodes every week. Remember, the veils are thin, the stories are spooky, and your favorite ghost host is back and badder than ever. Listen to Haunting on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Sup, y'all. This is Questlove, and I'm here to tell you about a new podcast I've been working on with the Story Pirates and John Glickman called Historical Records. It's a family-friendly podcast. Yeah, you heard that right. A podcast for all ages. One you can listen to and enjoy with your kids starting on September 27th.
Starting point is 00:29:15 I'm going to toss it over to the host of Historical Records, Nimany, to tell you all about it. Make sure you check it out. Hey, y'all. Niminy here. I'm the host of a brand new history podcast for kids and families called Historical Records. Historical Records brings history to life through hip-hop.
Starting point is 00:29:36 Flash, slam, another one gone. Bash, bam, another one gone. The crack of the bat and another one gone. The tip of the cap, there's another one gone. Each episode is about a different inspiring figure from history. Like this one about Claudette Colvin, a 15-year-old girl in Alabama who refused to give up her seat on the city bus nine whole months before Rosa Parks did the same thing.
Starting point is 00:29:58 Check it. Get the kids in your life excited about history by tuning in to Historical Records. Because in order to make history, you have to make some noise. Listen to Historical Records on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. That day when he said he forgot to hide that drug, the heroin and the coke and whatever else he had in that little side pocket, I was like, fuck this. Then I started trying to, I had to separate myself because I was like, man, I can't make no money in jail, bro. I ain't trying to go to no motherfucking jail, my nigga. Like, we making money.
Starting point is 00:30:44 We having success. Why the fuck I want to get pulled over for some, bro. I ain't trying to go to no motherfucking jail, my nigga. We making money. We having success. Why the fuck I want to get pulled over for some cocaine or some shit that wasn't even mine and go to jail for it? I said, that's not smart. I said, he didn't listen to me at all. Crutchett would listen to me sometimes. Very coops the nigga know. And Gangsta Boo, she would listen to me, though.
Starting point is 00:31:02 She would. I had to calm her down a lot. A lot of times she'd hit some coke, she'd go crazy. Gangsta Boo was a gangster, real gangster. You know what I'm saying? She'd fight a nigga, kick a nigga, whatever. She'd cut the nigga's ass out. But anyway, I had to.
Starting point is 00:31:14 She listened to me a lot, but it was difficult with Lord of the Rings, man. When you was writing the dedications, because I feel like the dedications are everybody that you lost, right? Yeah, pretty much. When you write that, how did that feel? Just to have to everybody that you lost, right? Yeah, pretty much. When you write that, how did that feel, just to have to write that dedication? Yeah, it's bad, man. It's crazy, bro.
Starting point is 00:31:32 Like, I shed a tear every other day, man, thinking about that shit, man. You know what I'm saying? It's been a great, painful journey. You know what I mean? Great, painful journey. Your mother, Lord Infamous, Koopsta, Gangsta Boo, Clintonamous Cooper gangster boo Clinton nigga creep Brady and Cardi K rock burn yeah yeah yeah yeah I always always want to ask when I hear stories about you
Starting point is 00:31:56 know drug use like that like do you remember who introduced you to it right because as a kid or growing up you I remember who introduced me to my favorite car my favorite sports, my favorite sports team, my favorite rapper, my favorite musician. Do you remember the time that somebody introduced you to that drug? And what made you say, you know what, I'm going to try it? Trying to think the Xanax,
Starting point is 00:32:16 who introduced me? I mean, you know, like, at the end of the day, like, Lorde and a bunch of them, they did a lot of Xanax and stuff, so, you know, it was around already. And I used to, when I used to, we was flying a lot, and I was talking to this doctor I met in Hollywood, I was like, man, flying and shit,
Starting point is 00:32:32 I probably need something to calm myself down or something. He's like, I got something for you, and he just gave me the Xanax, you know what I'm saying? So it kind of went from a little conversation, I was like, okay, I know Crunchin' Em takes Xanax, you know what I'm saying? Went from there. You know what I'm saying? I never really seen them go crazy like off the
Starting point is 00:32:48 chain on some some pills or even some lean you know I'm saying it's kind of sleepy or kind of you know slum or whatever but even that was like the cocaine I wouldn't do no because I felt like the cocaine was more like the rage drug so I was like I I never had to tell these niggas to slow down on the lean and stuff like that so I guess it might be cool with Papa Xander or something. And then it just gradually, you know, definitely makes you feel good.
Starting point is 00:33:10 It's gradually just kind of slowly but surely took me over, you know what I'm saying? And then the lean, I already knew about lean. I mean, I sipped lean, I had sipped lean before so, you know,
Starting point is 00:33:18 I had the hook on the act. I had so much act, man. Bro, I was the act man. I was the act man. I I was the act, man. I still got something. Act? Yes. What is act?
Starting point is 00:33:29 Activist. Oh, shit. Yeah. What, they discontinued it or something? Yeah, they banned it. I still got something. I have no idea what you're talking about. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:33:37 What is act? Activist. It's a drug. What the fuck is that? You send a full name, I'll Google it. Yeah, Google it. Try it. No.
Starting point is 00:33:44 I love in the book. No, don't. Try it. I love in the book. No, don't try it. I love how in the book you pay homage to Memphis music, but you talk a lot about Stax Records. Yes. Talk about how you were influenced by the story of Stax Records. Al Bell, Jim Stewart, you know what I'm saying? He had a sister, too, that was involved in Stax.
Starting point is 00:33:59 I can't remember her name. Her last name was Stewart, too. Man, I was just influenced by that man you know what i'm saying uh isaac hayes uh rufus thomas um man you name a man they had the ten pre's and it was the it was the biggest record label in the south and you know when i was coming up you know it was over with but uh they had tore down the building i remember it was in the news in the newspaper they tore down the stacks building i was like why the fuck would they do that you know i'm saying i just thought it was some racist shit i'm like man these folks don't want
Starting point is 00:34:24 to have shit out here, man. They just told them what the fuck and build it down. Like, that's a historic place. And they tore it down and they eventually built it back up. But I was like, man, we're going to be like Stacks. I'm going to follow in the footsteps of Al Bell. Al Bell was like, he was running Stacks, a black dude. And I got the book.
Starting point is 00:34:38 I read that book like back and forth and back and forth because I was so interested how to hide this nigga from, you know. He was actually from D.C. Al Bell was from D Bell's from DC and I was just he moved to Memphis and he started running stacks so I was just so interested like how this man you know run a whole record label so I was just reading about what he did and I took I talked about in my book everything that he did I did a lot of stuff you know in my life my career to follow in his footsteps and it worked you know what I'm saying so um that's that was the big influence that I had I don't want to give too much away from the book but like when I read about the issues you had with your father right and and and some of your upbringing and then you
Starting point is 00:35:16 know now you got two children yeah do you feel like you're you've done a good job of breaking some of those generational curse um i think i wouldn't i wouldn't call it a curse i just call it um i just learned something from it you know what i'm saying um i learned a lot from it um i think i think i'm i'm good man i'm good with my kids man like if it wasn't because my mom and my dad i wouldn't probably i'd probably be some madman you know i'm just being real they took care of me i love them they took care, man. They made sure we was straight regardless of, I love small, I call it small family issues because it wasn't nothing like big, big, big.
Starting point is 00:35:51 You know what I'm saying? I never was like, if my family, nothing like that. I mean, I've been there for them from day one. I'm still there for them. You might talk about it in my book, every time they call me, I don't care what I was doing. If I was in a strip club having sex, the phone ringing,
Starting point is 00:36:05 is my mom or something? I'm like, hey, stop. Stop the music. I picked the phone up all the time because Memphis was so bad, and I didn't know. They just called me to check on me, see how I'm doing, or it could have been like an emergency. I remember one time my dad called me.
Starting point is 00:36:19 I was high as a motherfucker. You know what I'm saying? It was kind of weird too. You know what I'm saying? I thought I was smoking some weed, and I thought they had put some cocaine in it man bro i was so high i was like laughing and i couldn't stand up straight i was feeling like i'm about to pass out he just called me i know he's like what you doing i was like um chilling you know what i'm saying
Starting point is 00:36:39 he's like oh okay i was just checking i just thought about you and i said man this must have been a sign from god let me get out of this this. I was at somebody's house. Let me get the hell out of here, man, at the time. You know, so I left. But, yeah, they took care of me, man. They made me who I am today. You told your granddad had, did he have, what was it, two families that all had the same names? Yes.
Starting point is 00:36:57 Yeah, he had one family in Memphis, and I think the other one was, like, in Mississippi. And so he had named them the same names. That's wild. Yeah, so he couldn't remember the names. You know what I'm saying? Like my mom's name was Shirley, so he named his other daughter he had somewhere else Shirley so he could remember the names.
Starting point is 00:37:15 When did y'all find that out? My mom told me and my aunts told me. They told me a lot of stuff about him. I mean, he passed away before I was born, but they told me a lot of stuff about him. I mean, he passed away before I was born, but they told me a lot of stuff about him. And I just felt like, going back to mental health, my mom, you know what I'm saying,
Starting point is 00:37:32 for her to come from that kind of situation, I could tell she had been damaged by that. You know what I'm saying? I could tell through her movements and things she did, she was upset about that. She told me her dad never told her she loved her you know I'm saying so that's bad man you know I'm saying so like I said man mental health starts
Starting point is 00:37:51 with in the beginning of your life and then it can affect you later like if it does affect you later on in your life you ever you ever think about why our parents never said I love you like why was it so difficult for our parents to be like I love you because we hear the story all the time about our generation saying their parents never said I love you. Because I said, my daughter, I say it all the time. I say it overly. But, you know. I think we take for granted.
Starting point is 00:38:13 And, like, the way you're talking about mental health, the way I talk about mental health, we're the first generation that has the luxury of healing. The generation before us, they was scratching and surviving. You know what I mean? Like, they weren't thinking about that kind of stuff. They weren't thinking about emotions and all that. Well, my mom told me, she told me she loved me, though.
Starting point is 00:38:29 Yeah, my mom did, too. My dad didn't. No, my dad didn't. But, nah. Later on in life. Yeah, later on in life. Yeah, I think he did, too, yeah. Yeah, we need that, though.
Starting point is 00:38:36 You know, the kids need that love, man. You know what I'm saying? Absolutely. You know what I'm saying? And like I said, and that affects us later on in our life. You know, you think about, like, my mom talked about that,
Starting point is 00:38:44 and I was like, damn. I felt like she was really messed up about that. Like, he never told me he loved me. You know what I'm saying? She would say it, and she would have tears in her eyes. So, yeah, it's terrible, man. You know what I'm saying? She had to go through that. And she really never talked to anybody.
Starting point is 00:38:59 She was always quiet about a lot of different things. And that's why I said, man, a lot of times we just need to have somebody to talk to, you know, like a therapist. I have a therapist. You know what I'm saying? I heard you talk about therapists. I got one. I've had a couple of them. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:39:13 And we need that, man. You know what I'm saying? You know, we definitely need to pray and pray to God most definitely. That's number one. And if we need to have somebody to talk to, we need to have somebody to talk to to try to help get over that. Because I feel like if she maybe would have had, if she would have talked to somebody about that and somebody maybe could understand her and listen to her, things may have been different.
Starting point is 00:39:33 My mom was closed off. She didn't really, she didn't have a lot of friends. She was kind of just closed off, you know what I'm saying? And it just affected, you know, all that stuff affected her, man. What got you on your healing journey? Just, you know, talking with my therapist. My therapist, the first thing he told me, he said, man, let's start with the beginning.
Starting point is 00:39:55 You know what I'm saying? How were you raised? Where'd you, you know, how was your mom? And then that would put me, I was like, oh, okay, that's why I'm like I am today because I went through this and you know I'm saying okay okay that's I realized he helped me realize like my issues I had like my paranoia my always looking over my shoulder you know you know I'm saying I might overdo it I might have like more guns on me than the average gun I supposed to have you know maybe it's like hey
Starting point is 00:40:21 man you're going to a small function bring one one gun, I might have two, three. I mean, just bring one security, I might have four. You know what I'm saying? Coming up in Memphis, it's like, nigga, man, it was crazy out there. You know what I'm saying? I was like, just. Nigga was talking about robbing me,
Starting point is 00:40:36 doing this and doing that, so I'm like, shit, I'ma be on point. Motherfucker pull up, I'ma shoot him in the face. You know, that's just how it was. You had to, coming up in Memphis, you gotta be like that, They make you like that. Even you try to be like, I'm gonna be cool,
Starting point is 00:40:47 I ain't gonna do nothing. Man, nigga steal your bike, nigga stole my bike. You know what I'm saying? Nigga shot my car one day, I'm like, all right,
Starting point is 00:40:52 you know what I'm saying? It's like that, okay. I'm gonna mask up on your motherfucking ass, nigga, you know what I'm saying? So,
Starting point is 00:40:58 you know, I was, I, I, I started sinking into that environment. So, and then they did, but still,
Starting point is 00:41:04 even still, even still, you know, you Mr. Tough Guy or whatever, still you got to look over your shoulder because you don't know if your best friend or somebody next to you is going to blow your ass off. You know what I'm saying? Like, real shit. Niggas is snake out there.
Starting point is 00:41:14 Niggas pull some moves. I done had niggas set me up and all kind of shit. So you just had a bunch of unhealed trauma you needed to unpack. There you go. So I'm like, just right here. So then even when I come to LA, I go anywhere.
Starting point is 00:41:27 I'm on the same type of time. You know what I'm saying? I ain't never like, oh, I'm just chilling. I'm in a different city so I can just chill. Hell no. We got more guns.
Starting point is 00:41:34 We got vests. I used to sleep with a bulletproof vest on in Memphis. You know what I'm saying? When I was in my house, it was just so bad like that. I would sleep
Starting point is 00:41:41 with the vest on and then I would try to train myself to wake up to grab the gun at a certain time. I hear a noise in the house. I'm fucking jumping up with the strap, you know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:41:51 Police told you to get a better gun one time, though. Yeah, yeah, I got pulled over. He seen my gun. I had this little.38. He said, man, this piece of shit took the bullets out and threw the gun back at me. Damn. Man, get you a better gun, man. And they drove off. Damn. How would you define Memphis now versus when you were growing up? It's worse now.
Starting point is 00:42:10 Really? Oh, shit. It's so bad now. Man, they jacking every day, bro. You know what I'm saying? I mean, like, it was bad then, but now it's like they didn't boost it up. I feel like, you know, and we always say that things are worse now. The thing I think is missing is there's no like, it's crazy,
Starting point is 00:42:31 there's no spiritual foundation. Like these kids ain't got no morals, no values, like no respect. You know, there was a respect among, there was honor among thieves and crooks back then. I know that sounds crazy when you think about it, but it was. Yeah, it was a real street code back then you know it was you're right it was honor you know what i'm saying it was like all right we're doing this we're doing that but we're not doing you know we're not you know no kids involved you know stuff like that in in street business but
Starting point is 00:42:54 now it's like it you know i'm saying anything goes he walked through the door anybody with him kill them all you know they just think like that people think like that now it's up that's why i mean like you know when i'm done with this rap shit man you know the older when i get close to 60 you know i'm saying pushing 70 shit i'm running for uh uh office or something down there in midwest man i want to change the city i want to give people better jobs because they don't have job opportunities down there man they like the hope is down there's like there's no hope so people are just going crazy down there you know i'm saying i think if they had better jobs and opportunities down in midwest and definitely some uh you know somebody talking to these niggas you know i'm saying? I think if they had better jobs and opportunities down at Mivis and definitely some, you know,
Starting point is 00:43:25 somebody talking to these niggas, you know what I'm saying? And talking about mental health and talking about situations in life and how can we try to fix this? I think things could be better. It's good to take time, but. Also, I think there's more, I think you need more things to do. Yes. Like anything comes to the city.
Starting point is 00:43:38 Like I said, when I did the car show out there, it was so many families. And even the police and the sheriff, they were happy. It was like, we need more events like this for kids to get them out the streets. Let them come in there
Starting point is 00:43:49 and see things and be inspired. And I was like, a lot of cities need stuff like that. And the amount of people that came out of Memphis, it was just amazing.
Starting point is 00:43:56 But then when it was time to do Afterport, I was like, I don't know if I'm gonna come do Afterport. I heard three people got shot last night. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:44:02 So it was that type of thing as well, you know? Yeah, it's bad, man. I feel you. I know y'all had like hella You know what I mean? So it was that type of thing as well, you know? Yeah, it's bad, man. I feel you. I know y'all had like hella police with y'all workers. And I was going to ask, when you talk about
Starting point is 00:44:10 somebody setting you up, how do you trust people again after you say somebody on your team set you up? Like, how do you develop that trust again? Because that got to be... I don't fuck with them no more.
Starting point is 00:44:19 Well, besides them, how do you develop the trust? Like other people on your team because you always got to be looking over your shoulder. You always got to be scared, you know? Man, you know? Man, you know, you just, I just say, man.
Starting point is 00:44:30 Or do you not trust anybody anymore? I really pretty much don't. You know what I'm saying? I trust the folks on, you know what I'm saying? I mean, look, at the end of the day, Three 6 Mafia, I trust a lot of people in Three 6 Mafia. You know, we was a real, you know, we was a, but it was like a lot of outside niggas that was coming in
Starting point is 00:44:45 that I didn't trust, you know what I'm saying? And the group didn't trust, you know what I'm saying? Stuff like situations like that, but as far as before Three Seas, I mean, not even talking about
Starting point is 00:44:53 Three Seas Mavi, me just coming up in North Memphis, no, I couldn't trust nobody, man, no. I had this chick set me up,
Starting point is 00:44:58 I was at this chick crib one day, and man, I slept, when I woke up, I slept, damn, I never slept that long, you know what I'm saying? I woke up i was like damn i never slept that that long yeah you
Starting point is 00:45:05 know i'm saying i woke up all my money in my pockets was gone damn my car was on flat all all four tires on flat see you should have said no to ratchet you know right and she was like what happened i'm like what happened you stole my she's like no i didn't i didn't do shit so i went out to my car i'm like man my tires on flat and like the I didn't do shit. So I went out to my car. I'm like, man, my tires don't flat. And the nigga didn't cut my tires. He just let the air out of my tires. So I got somebody to come by and put the air in the tires, and I left.
Starting point is 00:45:34 And then she called me like a day or two. She's like, I didn't set you up. I didn't do anything. Why you don't call me? I just want you to know I didn't do that. I was like, bitch don't call me no more. I was on the phone with her face. You know what I'm saying? I just use it as the phone with her face. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:45:45 I just used it as a lesson learned, man. You know what I'm saying? What if she was telling the truth, though? You just knew she wasn't. I was at her spot. I mean, look. I mean, it was like her mom's house. I mean, she had a couple of brothers in there.
Starting point is 00:45:58 You know, she tried to blame it on her brothers. But, man, come on, bro. Damn. Come on. I was in her room. That would have been the end of ratchet pussy for me you see i mean you know i just had to are you at the point now where you can say no to ratchet pussy i mean i'm married now you know i'm saying so that's done but but you know after that i
Starting point is 00:46:14 started getting hotel room because i didn't get hotel rooms at first i was just like you know at a chick's house or whatever i might have a strap or something and i'm good no i wasn't good after that i started getting hotel rooms and shit so uh you, like I would pull up and get like, you know, they had these hotels in Memphis. You can pull up like a drive-thru and get like two, three hours. Smash and then dash. Mm-hmm. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:46:32 The book. You got to get the book, man. Yeah, it's all in the book. I want to say, Good Morning America, they wouldn't let you wear this great jacket and the Hannibal Lecter mask, right? No, it was a little scary. You know what I'm saying? But it's all good.
Starting point is 00:46:42 They good, man. I had a great time over there, man. They good people. I understood. I brought extra outfits, too. So what'd they do? But it's all good. They're good, man. I had a great time over there, man. They're good people. I understood. I brought extra outfits, too. So what'd they do? They just came to y'all and said, hey, man.
Starting point is 00:46:49 Did you tell them what it was for? Did you say, I'm trying to raise awareness to mental health? Yeah, we had that in place, but they weren't really trying to hear that,
Starting point is 00:46:55 you know what I mean? Yeah. Damn. Damn. Are you executive producing Megan Thee Stallion's new album? No, no. I wish I was.
Starting point is 00:47:02 I keep hearing that. I'm executive producing Ta-Dah Sign's album. Ta-Dah, okay. Ta-Dah Sign's album, and then I wish I was. I keep hearing that. I'm executive producing Ty Dolla $ign's album. Ty Dolla $ign's album, and then I'm producing a lot of stuff for Megan. I'm doing a lot of production for her, yeah.
Starting point is 00:47:11 I heard y'all got a lot of records together. Man, we got a lot of hard-ass shit, man. So why, personally, when I heard that, I'm like, damn, you see J.E.P.
Starting point is 00:47:17 and Megan Thee Stallion, that sound hard. No, that's Ty Dolla $ign. Ty Dolla $ign album is real, it sound like a 92, 2000s, you know, mid-2000s, Three Six Mafia album. It's hard. He's singing over that shit, shit crazy. Is that what he wanted? He wanted that vibe?
Starting point is 00:47:33 Yeah, yeah, yeah. He asked me to executive produce the project. What's Meg's vibe like? Because, you know, that's a big album for her. After everything she went through, it's a big project. Big, big project. I can't tell you that, but it's hard hard to motherfucker she she man she energized man she going in she's killing everything yeah all right well that the book is out right now yeah oh one more question one more question what does psalm 1071 mean to you psalm 1071 which psalm 1071 oh psalm oh this one on the back yeah oh let's read it. Oh, give thanks unto the Lord, for he is good, for his
Starting point is 00:48:08 mercy endure forever. First I thought you said song. Yeah. This is something I chose. You know, every album I always put a Bible script on my album, so I don't know if you ever noticed that. So I felt like this right here, oh, give thanks unto the Lord, for he is good,
Starting point is 00:48:23 for his mercy endure forever. Like his mercy, everything. You know, he has mercy on you. You know what I'm saying? Like, in other words, you can change your life around. He going to forgive you of all your sins and your wrongdoing. So this is very inspirational for me. I feel like this is a part of my life right now.
Starting point is 00:48:41 You know what I'm saying? Trusting in the Lord, man, because he forgives you. And you can always start over and be a new person. You know what I'm saying? Trusting in the Lord, man, because he forgives you and you can always start over and be a new person. You know what I'm saying? You can go from bad to good. You know what I'm saying? I love it, man. Juicy J talking about
Starting point is 00:48:52 spirituality, God, mental health. Come on, man. That's right. Come on, man. Pick up the book right now. Don't tell us Black Men ain't evolving out here.
Starting point is 00:48:59 Chronicles of the Juice Man. Yes, sir. We appreciate you for joining us. Go get it right now. Salute to Soren Baker, too. Soren, you did a phenomenal job. I don't know you, but you did a phenomenal job. Yep, yep.
Starting point is 00:49:07 Great job, yep. Shout out to Three Cismavi, DJ Paul, Crunchy Black, Rest in Peace, Lord Infamous, Rest in Peace, Gangsta Boo, and Koops the Nigga. And everybody, shout out to the whole Hypnotize Camp Posse, man. You know what I'm saying? Hopefully one day we can all get together and do a crazy tour. I had an idea. I thought, you know, since I heard BG got out, you know, shout out to BG.
Starting point is 00:49:25 I was like, man, it'd be dope if Cash Money and Hypnotize did a whole fucking tour. That'd be dope. I remember you said that earlier that we'd love to see him on tour.
Starting point is 00:49:33 That'd be dope. Would that, could you be able to do that without the Gangsta Bulls and, you know, everybody else? Yeah, we'll figure it out. We'll do it.
Starting point is 00:49:40 Maybe bring like a hologram or something, you know what I'm saying? Yeah. Do something special with the special effects. Yeah, I think that'd be dope. You still dealing with that? Do you ever get over that? Get know what I'm saying? Yeah. Do something special with the special effects. Yeah, I think that'll be dope. You still dealing with that?
Starting point is 00:49:45 Do you ever get over that? Get over the passing of them? Yeah. Never, never. I think about all of them all the time, man.
Starting point is 00:49:51 I cry here and there, you know, real shit. Like, that shit tore me up, man. Still, like still,
Starting point is 00:49:57 it's crazy. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. All right. Well, it's The Breakfast Club. It's Juicy J. Yes, sir.
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