The Breakfast Club - Justice for Mike Brown/ Kamau Bell Interview and more

Episode Date: April 27, 2018

Friday 4/27 - Today on the show we had film maker Jason Polluck and mother of Mike Brown Lezley McSpadden stopped by and spoke on the documentary "Stranger Fruit" which revealed newer evidence about the Killing of her son Mike Brown. Also, we were visited by comedian and tv personality Kamau Bell where he spoke about an incident he had at Starbucks, HBCU's, Kanye West and more. Also, Charlamagne gave "Donkey of the Day" to a guy that sued an instagram model for sexually assaulting his dog.  Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Avengers Infinity War. Drop on the clues bombs for Avengers Infinity War. And you think it's going to be bigger than Black Panther? Stop asking me stupid questions. Yes. I don't see. That's because you're not a Marvel Comics fan. Right.

And what you don't realize is Avengers Infinity War is the culmination to 12 to 13 years of Marvel movies. Black Panther was just another movie in a long line

of Marvel movies that led up to this story. There's no but. There's a lot of people that don't care about Marvel movies that just went to go support Black Panther

because they were black or minority. Sir. Like you. Did you see Black Panther? Yes. I've seen Black Panther. Are you going to see Avengers? No. Me neither. Are you going to? You're Puerto Rican though, right? Did you see Black Panther? No. We need a Puerto Rican

superhero. The problem with you Negroes will always be that y'all think nothing exists or nothing's popping until y'all get involved. No. This movie is going to gross well over two billion dollars. Well, I know enough to know

that's going to be a huge movie. That's going to be huge. I know enough to know that. You think it's going to be bigger than Black Panther? Yes! Every other Avengers

has already been bigger than Black Panther. White guy in the room. Did you see Black Panther? No, he didn't. Did you see Black Panther? No, my goodness. You know what?

Marvel has like four to five movies that have done over a billion dollars. Two of them are the other Avengers movies. And one is Iron Man 3. And then it's Black Panther. Oh, and Captain America Winter Soldier. So yes, shut up. Let us Marvel fans have this. All right.

Enjoy. Have fun. Enjoy. Are you going to wear a costume to go see it today? No, I'm not going to see it today because I have an event at a school this afternoon, but I will be going to see it tomorrow. Okay.

Yes. All right. Well, you enjoy. Absolutely. All right. I'm going to be honest with you. Being to work on time is mad overrated, B. You know what?

It's kind of funny. I got here. I was like, shall I come in here yet? He was like, yeah, he was actually here early, which was surprising. It's mad overrated. Like, you know, we need to really. It's Friday. We should just start the show at 6.05.

6.05 is the night time. Then you start coming at 6.10. Then you come at 6.10. 6.05 is the night time to start the show. You know what the worst is? If you are actually staying somewhere that's closer to work, like when there's been situations where the weather was about to be bad, it's snowstorm, and they put us in a hotel right across the street so we don't miss work.

And then you really end up being late because you think you have extra time and then you push it to the limit let's just start off with a gospel song to start the show in the morning you know I'm saying get everybody's spirits right then six or five we start the ratchet no we got to be here on time and this morning Mike Brown's mom will be joining us Leslie Leslie McFadden should be joining us also Jason Pollock they have a new is it a documentary about range, it's a documentary about Stranger Fruit. What Happened in Ferguson with Mike Brown. And also, comedian Kamau Bell will be joining us.

W. Kamau Bell. His new show, well, not his new show, but season three of his show, United Shades of America, starts this Sunday. W. Kamau Bell. That's right. Butchered that man's name this morning. I said Kamau Bell. He added the W. Well, that's his name, W. Kamau Bell. Great show, W. Great show. Well, that's his name, Kamau Bell.

Great show, great book he has. I read his book about a year ago. All right. All right. Let's get the show cracking. Front page news, what we talking about? Bill Cosby,

the verdict is in, and we'll tell you all about it. All right. Bill Cosby, I'll just die on y'all right now. You just can't die on sight. You just can't die. Ask the Grim Reaper,

check please. Hey, Grim Reaper, could you bring the check? I'm ready to go. All right. Front page news is next at the Breakfast Club. Good morning. Good morning, please. Hey, Grim Reaper, could you bring the check? I'm ready to go. All right. Front page news is next. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning.

Good morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy, Angelique, Charlamagne Tha God. We are the Breakfast Club. Let's get in some front page news. Start off with sports. The Bucs beat the Celtics last night, 97-86, forcing a game seven. The Raptors play the Wizards. Cavs play the Pacers.

And Utah play the Thunder. I can't believe that the series is 3-3 with the Pacers. And Utah play the Thunder. I can't believe that the series is 3-3 with the Milwaukee and the Celtics in the books. Because the Celtics have so many players out? Yeah. Now they still hold it on. And our last night was the NFL Draft. The Browns had the first pick. They picked up a quarterback. And the

Giants had a second pick. We picked up a running back. Yeah, Shaquan Buckley y'all got. Yeah. Now let's talk about Bill Cosby. Well, Shaquan Buckley y'all got. Now let's talk about Bill Cosby. Well, Bill Cosby has been found guilty on all three counts of aggravated indecent assault. That was for

drugging and molesting Andrea Constance in 2004 at his home. He is facing a maximum of 10 years in prison for each one of those charges. A.K.A. life for Bill Cosby. Now here is Lili Bernard, one of the victims. It became evident to me that the justice system is light years behind modern culture.

But today, this jury has shown what the Me Too movement has said, is that women are worthy of being believed it is not just a victory for the 62 of us publicly known cosby survivors whom gloria all red has helped give a voice it is also a victory for womanhood and it is a victory for all sexual assault survivors i've been saying for three years that bill cosby should just die i I mean, yo, just ask the Grim Reaper for the check, please. All right, it's time to clock out. Another one of his accusers made this statement. Janice Baker Kinney is her name, and she said,

I'm overwhelmed with joy, relief, and gratitude. Joy that finally justice has been served. Relief that the years of this toxic chain of silence has been broken, and we can now move forward with our heads held high as survivors and not victims. What is Bill Cosby sticking around for, man? This is when this is, sometimes you got to die just in the nick of time. I mean, you're right, but I got a couple of questions. Like, one, is there an appeal?

Because the first one was deadlocked, so this is the second one. Can he appeal at, or is it just, it's over, it's a wrap? I have no idea. Do you still support the Cosby Show? What do you mean, do I still support the Cosby Show? Do you still watch it? Yes, I would still watch the Cosby Show. Because we don't mess with R. Kelly because R. Kelly's a pedophile, but the Cosby is just as bad. mean do I still support the Cosby show? Do you still watch it? Yes, I would still watch the Cosby show. Because we don't mess with R. Kelly

because R. Kelly's a pedophile but the Cosby, he's just as bad. Because R. Kelly is R. Kelly. Bill Cosby is the story of Heathcliff Huxtable and his family. That show should have

been called The Huxtable Show by the way. Alright, the story's about Heathcliff Huxtable and his fictional family. Yes, I will still watch the Heathcliff Huxtable show.

Because the show's positive black families on television. Yes, I will still watch Different Worlds. Yes, I will still watch Fat Albert and the gang. Absolutely.

I won't eat Jell-O pudding pops because they're too high in sugar, and I don't think he advertises those anymore anyway, but it doesn't matter. Yes, I'm going to still watch the Cosby Show. Okay. All right, and there was heartbreaking video making the rounds yesterday of former NFL defensive back Desmond Merrill. He was grabbed by the police and slammed to the ground. I know you guys had to have seen this.

No, I didn't because people were sending it to me. I'm like, yo, stop sending me stuff like this, okay? I'm already triggered by all the other police brutality that I see in this country. He posted it himself as well with a whole description of what happened and here's some of what went down.

I'm not even fighting back. I'm not even doing nothing, man. What's going on, man? I don't know. And here's some of what went down. What the heck? I can't breathe. I can't breathe. I can't breathe. They threw him on his face. And it looked like he went limp. Well, clearly he posted the video for it to go viral so that people could see it. We know, though. Listen, I'm not knocking him for that. I'm just saying what I'm not watching, okay?

I'm not doing it. I'm not doing that to myself. He said that officers tried to say he had a gun, and they don't show what happened before they attacked him and had him on the ground where he couldn't breathe, and it looks like he passed out at one point. He said officers said he had a gun in his pocket, but it was only a cell phone.

He said the police knocked his teeth out, slammed him on his head, and choked him until he was unconscious. He also suffered a shoulder strain and a concussion, and he said it was terrifying. That is so crazy to me. He was fully cooperating with the officers, zero resistance. He said he thought he was going to die.

I'm just not a glutton for punishment, man. I can't just continue to put stuff like that in my spirit. I just can't do it. Like, something has to happen. Like, this can't continue to go on. I mean, the way they threw him on his face, like they said, it was two, three officers there at the time, and one of them was choking him.

I'm looking at it like, this is so disrespectful. I just can't imagine that's my son or my dad or me. You want five minutes with every cop alone. Like, ah! And you know, exactly. And that feeling you have right there is exactly why I don't watch those videos because I don't have the answers. Well, it's important in order to be able to discuss the story

to see what the story is because how would you even know what happened if you didn't watch it? But see, this is what you don't realize, Angelia. Maybe you do, but you're not acknowledging it. This is the same story over and over all the time. Well, because he posted it himself and wanted people to see it, I watched it. I'm grabbing everybody that this happens to

that doesn't tape it. What happened to Stephen Clark? When you talk to people like Leslie McSpadden, Mike Brown's mom, and she talks about how people move on too fast. They just hashtag injustice for Mike Brown. Now they move on to something else. It happens all the time

over and over. I can't be a glutton for punishment. But it's important to not get numb to those things and to still continue to speak out about it. Alright guys, that's front page news. Get it off your chest. 800-585-1051. If you're upset, you need to vent, hit us up right now. Or maybe you want to spread some positivity on this Friday.

You can tell us why you're blessed as well as The Breakfast Club. Good morning. The Breakfast Club. Get it. Pick up the mother, mother phone and dial. This is your time to get it off your chest. Whether you're mad or blessed. Say it with your chest.

We want to hear from you on The Breakfast Club. So you better have the same energy. Hello, who's this? Hey, yo, this is Brandon from the Metro, man. What's up, bro? 803, what's happening? 803 all day. Now, look, man, I'm mad because it's like I'm tired of constantly seeing these black people being abused by the cops.

But what bothers me about it, to me as a black person, I just feel like, not to say that some of the rallies and the marches and protests and stuff are fake. When some of this stuff happens, I just feel like the same fervor that our people attacked it with in 1965, I don't think that same fervor is out on some of these streets that people are protesting and marching on in 2015. People too quick to make things a hashtag. This stuff can't keep happening.

People can't be getting shot. And then we move on two weeks later, and then like Angelique said, kind of become numb to it. We can't, I mean, we got to keep attacking it, but it just has to be real to me. It has to be consistent. It has to be forever.

There's nothing that can ever stop us. I'm going to be honest with you, man. There's nothing that makes me feel more helpless than when I see encounters with the police because you're damned if you do, damned if you don't. If a regular civilian runs up on me like that, you can defend yourself any way you see fit. You can't do that with police. Not at all.

What the hell are we supposed to do? I don't know. Hello, who's this? Queen, God, deep, I envy this friend from Milwaukee, Wisconsin, checking in. What's happening? Oh, it looks like it was cracking in Milwaukee last night. He don't know. Good morning, good morning my breakfast club family. How y'all doing this morning?

He has no idea. He hear Greek freak. He think you're talking about a porno. I'm over here looking at Reggie Brown from V100 in Milwaukee and he's got a lot of pictures of everybody was out there last night. What's up, bro? Get it off your chest, man. Well, I got three points, maybe four to hit on real quick. I want to say welcome back Yeezy. The fellas, they did alright

but the queen always got to come back home to get everybody back in formation. That's one. Number two, what I want to say welcome back Yeezy. The fellas, they did alright but the queen always got to come back home to get everybody back in formation. That's one. Number two, what I want to say is it is very expensive being a single person out here. I went through a lot of being single. And brother Envy, I would like you to congratulate me, brother, because I did get some coon coon last week.

And I had to pay for it. Was it a real person or was it a doll? Definitely a doll. It was a young lady. I had to pay for it. Young lady or was it a doll? Definitely a doll. It was a young lady. I had to pay for it. Young lady? How old is young? What age?

She was 27. Oh, you paid for it? What's the price of Pum Pum in Milwaukee nowadays? I had to pay $100. You paid her? Well, you get what you paid for, man. So call me when you start getting that herpes medication. Was it worth it?

Well, you know, at this stage of the game, Missy, yeah. You gotta make it happen somehow. My great-grandma, Clyde, always told me, baby, sometimes you gotta pay to play. I didn't understand what she talked about back then. I thought she had Alzheimer's. Let me tell you something. I can guarantee you your grandma charged more than $100, okay? Oh, stop it.

Well, you had that red light on back in the day, Hachala. And my next thing, I want y'all to have a blessed weekend, but I want to also say, never forget, F all these cracker-ass crackers forever. Don't ever forget that. All right. By crack-ass crackers, he means racist bigots, okay? Hello, who's this?

My name is Pharrell. Hey, Pharrell, get it off your chest. I just want to speak about how Bradley Beach Police out here, you know, mostly the team is all white, and I went through a situation like that before, and about three of them actually tried to go in real bad on me, because I'm

a big brother. I was able to stand up and hold my own, but they turned their dogs loose and actually beat me up pretty bad. So, you know, I actually hold on to it as one of you guys are saying, I let it go, because I couldn't harbor too much of that

I had to just move on with my life you know after the incident I had to go to the emergency room and get a lot of stitches and there's no one to speak up for us I didn't videotape it

nobody videotaped it nobody was around I took the L and kept it moving wow so nothing ever happened they're just still out here being cops

sorry for you bro brutalizing our people exactly alright brother exactly I took the L and kept it moving. Wow. So nothing ever happened. They're just still out here being cops. Sorry for you, bro. Brutalizing our people. All right, brother. Exactly. But educate people. You know, you just follow along, take their orders. But still, even though you follow along, take their orders, because of who they are,

they still want to go along and push the issue and still do what they want to do. That's what I'm saying, man. It makes you feel so helpless because our natural instincts is self-preservation. But when you're in those situations with the police officers, you don't know what to do. You can't fight back. You can't defend yourself with it. You're damned if you do, damned if you don't. Get it off your chest.

800-585-1051. Hit us up now. It's The Breakfast Club. Good morning. The Breakfast Club. Wake morning. The Breakfast Club. Wake up, wake up. Wake your ass up. This is your time to get it off your chest. Whether you're mad or blessed, we want to hear from you on The Breakfast Club. Hello, who's this?

This is from Miami. What's up, bro? Get it off your chest. I want to feel blessed this morning. I want to give a shout out to my beautiful wife. She started her hair business about a year ago, and she booming. Booming. Business is booming.

Congratulations to her. What's her name? You can check out the page, Judge Lee. Next time you're going on vacation, it's underscore here by Rich. All right, brother. Hello, who's this? This is Rick from Brooklyn. What's up, bro?

I want to talk about the situation just now about the NFL moving in to the ground. And Charlamagne commented that he's going to have to see it. Charlamagne, we're having a couple of days of actually getting through to you guys, and I wanted to really talk to Charlamagne about the influence that he has as a person on the radio. You guys are the number one hip-hop or radio show in the morning, and people listen to you. And when you say you don't want to see it, and you're not a punishment,

and, I mean, it kind of demoralizes me because it makes you feel like you're sticking your head in the sand. You're jaded and you're detached from what's going on. As he said, he got that feeling in his chest, like, okay, he want to shoot the fear one with every cop. That's this feeling that you need to make a change. So you're saying that. Oh, shut up, man. I already feel that way, brother.

I don't need to see another video. I feel that way already. That's my point. You need to see everyone, my man. I need to see everyone video. I feel that way already. That's my point. You need to see everyone, my man. I need to see everyone so we continue to have the feeling. What makes you think that feeling is going to go away? I'm a black man in America, sir. I go to therapy for that kind of anxiety.

Not everybody can afford therapy. I'm glad you said that. Not everybody can afford therapy. Like, we're going to every Friday to the therapist. They'll talk about their issues. We're dealing with it every day. So when you say stuff like that, you sound like your friend J.D. Kanye

who was picking up in his office somewhere. Oh, God. Everything is Kanye now. You got a J.D. in the test? It's not happening to you every day anymore. So you don't got to see it. Can I ask you a question? Let me ask you a question, sir.

Go ahead, Sean. If you know a stove is hot, how many times you got to put your hand on that stove to know it's hot? Every time. All right, man. Have a blessed day. Have a good morning. Have a good morning, sir.

All right. Have a good morning. Hello, who's this? What's good, brother? This is JB from Charleston, man. All right. JB, 843, what's happening? What's good, brother?

Hey, I got a question, man. What he said, though, like, he had a point, though. Why can't somebody have that on the pin and that be it? Why you got to downgrade somebody and talk down on a man for what he thinks? Well, you know freedom of speech, freedom of thought, freedom of expression works both ways. You can have your opinion, but I can also tell you that your opinion is stupid. Yeah, yeah, I feel you on that. But, like, I just feel like so many people talking down on a man.

If a man think like that, let him think like that. I mean, we can't stop him from thinking however he wants to think, but you can also express that you are opposed to how he thinks. And we can have our opinions exactly. Why not? You know, we don't have to agree. We can agree to disagree. Especially people who have been so affected by things that Donald Trump have done and policies that he's put into place. They feel strongly about it. They want to express how much they disagree. Yeah, I feel that, but, you know, like, some people, they just don't agree.

Like, when you say, I don't agree 100% with what everybody say, I'm the same way. I don't know nobody who agrees 100%. Oh, me too. But if your family got deported, or your father, or your child, and it's all because of the policies Donald Trump has put into place, you probably more strongly disagree. And that is why a lot of people don't like to express their opinion, because they're afraid of people disagreeing with them. That's why I don't trust people who tell me everything I want to hear.

Those politically correct people are trash. Man, you know what? I feel like it's more black people that f*** Trump. They're just scared to express their opinion. You know what I mean? That's why I like Kanye. I'm not saying I'm a Trump supporter. I would say, well, that's definitely not my opinion.

I don't know if there's more black people that support Trump. I don't think there's a lot of black people that support Trump. There is some black people that support Trump, but nah, I wouldn't say a lot. All right, get it off your chest. 800-585-1051. Naive, we got rumors on the way? Yes, and Khalees has said some things about Naz, her ex-husband, that we've never heard before. So I'll give you the details of what she says happened in her relationship.

All right, we'll get into all that when we come back. Keep it locked. This is The Breakfast Club. Good morning. The Breakfast Club. Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy, Angela Yee, Charlamagne Tha God. We are The Breakfast Club.

Yo, happy Friday. Happy Friday. Let's get to the rumors. Let's talk police. It's about time. What's going on? Rumor report. Rumor report. going on? Rumor Report. Rumor Report.

This is the Rumor Report. Talk to them. With Angela Yee on The Breakfast Club. So, Khalees did an interview with Hollywood Unlocked, and she had a lot of things to say about her ex-husband, Nas. Now, they got married in 2003, and their divorce was finalized in 2010. And she said in their relationship, because when they got together, she was only 22 years old. There were a lot of highs and lows. Here's what she said.

We had like really intense highs and really intense lows. An intense high would be like money was rolling in. We were like we were young, too. Like I was 22 when I met him. I was a baby. So like we we were drinking too much, smoking too much. We were spending too much. I mean, and like we were we lived hard, you know. And so because of that, like when that comes down, it goes really low.

Like so it's hard, you know, because there's no balance. There's no like normalcy. All right. She goes on to say that she put up with a lot of behavior that was unacceptable. What was that unacceptable behavior? Well, listen here. I didn't file for divorce because he cheated. He'd been cheating for two years, and I knew that. It was because on top of all the other stuff, then you're going to cheat? It was really toxic, and I was pregnant.

You know, seven months pregnant, I was terrified. I was like, I cannot bring a person into this. This is a freaking mess. Like, this is a mess, and I can't control this. I got to get out. So you left while you were pregnant? Yeah. I filed for divorce in April. Um, and Knight was born in July. So what's the mess? What made it toxic? Well, as she goes on to talk about when they were drinking, how they would physically fight. Did he hit me? Mm-hmm. Did I hit him back? Mm-hmm. It was because he would black out. He would drink too much. He drank way too much. He will never admit it. And so a lot of the stuff he may not remember. You know, there have been times when, like, literally

we would have the worst night ever, like, and we would wake up the next day. It's like it never happened. Was he ever remorseful? He bought gifts. So I guess what she's saying is on top of the cheating, it was all of these things as well. And she also discusses how she didn't say anything about it. And when she saw the pictures of Rihanna, how it struck a chord in her. Something reminded me of Rihanna. The only way I can describe it was like double dubs. Like I felt like, do I jump in? Like, do I say it?

Because I had bruises all over my body at that time. Seeing her, the way she looked, and then looking at myself, I was embarrassed. For me, it was kind of like, you're going to just let this go? You're not going to say anything? We were married. We weren't dating. I didn't say anything because I wanted things to work and because I was delusional and because I thought that like I like, love past this.

Yikes. Well, that was Khaleesa on Hollywood Unlocked. So check out the whole interview if you want to hear everything she had to say. As radio personalities, we don't have to have an opinion on that, right? No. Yeah. I mean, because there's three sides to every story. Absolutely.

All right. Now, Ciara is discussing Future and saying that he just is a no-show for visits about 37% of the time with young Future. And she also says that when he does spend time, usually Future ends up being with the grandmother or great-grandmother instead of with his dad and that she really gets to FaceTime with her son when he's gone. And he also has health issues that are even worse because he's been traveling cross-country. So she doesn't think that it's a good idea the way they have their travel schedule right now and that he's constantly exhausted due to the travel and has had emotional breakdowns while at school.

So what Sierra wants to do is go to mediation and hammer out a better schedule because her son is having all these health issues and he's traveling too much. So I don't get the point of the story. What was that about? Well, she's, these documents inform her going to court and saying that she's taking Future to court, and these are the issues that she's having with Future raising their son. I don't see a problem with that. Oh, because Future's not spending enough time with his son. Oh, I remember at one point she was keeping the son from Future. Yeah, one's in Atlanta, he's in Seattle, sort of flying back and forth.

He's saying that her son can't take it, and she's saying it's not future anyway. He's coming to see the grandma so let's do another schedule, you know? Like she's thinking that my son's going to spend time with his dad but he's actually not there and the grandmother is taking care of him. Got you. Okay. Alright, I'm Angela Yee and that is your rumor report. Alright, thank you Miss Yee. Now when we come back we have Leslie McSpadden

joining us. That's Mike Brown's mom and Jason Pollock. Now they have a new documentary and it's all about what happened that night and that day and leading up to it and leading up after it. Just listen. And it gives you more of a viewpoint of who Mike Brown was because I know

they tried to paint him as some bad kid that was a quote-unquote thug. I could only watch like 15 minutes of that documentary. That's because that stuff gives you trauma. It does. It's a good article on Huffington Post about how watching those police videos and stuff gives you trauma. I can't watch that. I had to stop it in 15 minutes. Like, I can't take this. Anyway, it's

The Breakfast Club. Good morning. Good morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy, Angela Yee, Charlamagne Tha God. We are The Breakfast Club. We got some special guests in the building. Leslie McSpadden, which is Mike Brown's mom, and director Jason Pollock. Now, this documentary made me tear.

I couldn't watch the whole thing last night. Wow. It was that strong. I don't even think I got 20 minutes in. Now, you know, Envy expressed how difficult it is for us to even watch this story, how difficult it is to keep telling this story. It's very difficult.

It's difficult to relive this story every day that Ferguson will not hold these people accountable for what they've done and what they continue to do. So it's very difficult. I think you have to, though. And I know it's hard because there's so many facts and so many things that we didn't know. You know, all we heard was, you know, Mike Brown charged the police and the police shot. But just seeing the detail and so many witnesses, and I still can't understand how they, I want to say, got off because it was so many people that said, I've seen this. I've seen his hands up.

The cop ran past me. The cop shot him. They kept, like, you know, I got two young boys. Even the cop not making a statement right after that and never having even submitted a statement. Correct, yeah, and they didn't write a police report until they were forced to. And then they produced a document that was basically blank.

It's a blank incident report. However, during the fake alleged robbery, Mike didn't even rob the store. Now we know that. But during that, the police report is a full page. So they were able to think of all these words to write for the fake robbery to frame that. But then when they kill him in the middle of the street, it's a blank page. They kept changing the evidence too, right? They did. They changed the evidence a lot.

And I'm going to break some news right now. So you talk about the charge. What has been totally unreported is that there is physical evidence at the scene that Michael didn't charge. What Bob McCullough Mayonnaise is trying to do is use fake witness testimony that isn't really reliable to prove that. But the physical evidence

defeats witness testimony in the court of law, I thought. So here it is. There's an audio tape of the shooting. It's 6.3 seconds from the first bullet to the last bullet. So we know that the whole event was 6.3 seconds. There's blood behind Michael's body on the street in the report. This is all like New York Times. You can look all this up. 21 feet and 7 inches. So for the first time, we're going to do this math together. 21 feet and 7 inches, 6.3 seconds.

Means he moved forward at one mile per hour, approximately. That's it. He didn't charge him. That's Darren's entire argument that he had to kill him because he was being charged at michael didn't charge darren he moved approximately one mile an hour and the physical evidence showed it and it was completely covered up even if you're being charged at 21 feet away that's a long way away like you know what i mean like i don't seem like you're in immediate danger right but he only moved forward that in 6.3 seconds.

If you charge 21 feet, you could get there in probably about a half a second. And that's after being shot one time. Think about it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, after being shot five times. After being shot five times. Yeah, he was stumbling forward dying, and he was falling forward, and he got shot in the top of the head.

But he wasn't standing. He was on his knees at that point, and he was falling forward with a broken clavicle bone. And he shot my son in the top of the head, and it came out of his eye. He was never scared for his life, Darren Wilson. He ran after my son. He pursued him. He was shooting like a cowboy between two apartment buildings that hold over 100 people, including children.

Riding their bikes. They didn't even count all the bullets. They did a very poor job of investigating. But why? Because I'm watching it, and there was two young men out there that day. Why your son over the other kid? What was his why? Why my son at all?

All this training that they're claiming to have and that he said kicked in, we saw none of that. It always pissed me off because they put out that corner store video, the surveillance from the store, and acted like he robbed the store as if that warranted him being gunned down in the middle of the street. Yes. But in addition to all of that, what was important about watching this documentary is seeing all the great things that he was doing and seeing what he was doing in school and hearing from his family because sometimes they try to make somebody just

seem like a monster. They did. And the way the press did that and the media and the police officers what they put out made it seem like he was a scary kid, he was a bad kid, he was doing bad things, but then you get to see what he was really doing in real life and that's important. That's what I'm saying. How did that make y'all feel when they was trying to paint him like that?

I knew the truth. And I still know the truth to this day. And that's where my book came into play. To share who my son was over those 18 years. And to give you all a different perspective from this 18 second clip that they showed. Which had another video attached to it that no one had ever seen until Jason put the video out. I had a meeting with the governor, and he told me he tried to stop them from showing the video.

Why? This is the governor. These were his words to me. He said that if there was video when he was 18, he wouldn't be governor. Meaning to say that at 18 years of age, you're still a kid, your mind thinks in a different way, and that people do things and they make mistakes that later on in life you regret or you feel sorry about. And you say, when I was young and dumb, I did X, Y, Z.

So that was his purpose for saying it, because him himself did not feel that what happened on Canfield should have happened. What happened to all the witnesses? Because there was, I mean, there was three witnesses that y'all talked about. Then there was the construction workers. There were five witnesses in the film. So what happened? Yeah, so basically Bob Mayo covered up all those witnesses.

And the prosecutor of St. Louis County very carefully took all the witnesses that were in line with Michael. And he picked them apart and figured out a way to use the physical evidence at the scene to say, your version of events doesn't match up with the physical evidence at the scene to say your version of events doesn't match up with the physical evidence so we can't use it 13 witnesses agreed with dorian in the street he threw them all out anyone that agreed with darren's he cherry-picked pieces of theirs even though parts of theirs also were against the physical evidence three people three people one being dar Darren himself. Right. One being a witness who completely lied.

It's just a cover-up. That was never there. It's just a huge, massive cover-up that they needed to perpetrate on America in 2014 because they need to keep Mike Brown's name down because they don't want to say that everything that happened after Mike Brown is invaluable. They want to say, oh, it started because of a thug. It started because of a robber. All this stuff. Look at them all in the street. They want to say, oh, it started because of a thug. It started because of a robber, all this stuff. Look at them all in the street. They're so silly. No, Mike Brown was

an angel and he was a great guy and he had just graduated high school. And all of that was a lie. And it's still a lie to this day. That's why it's so important that we uncover justice for Michael Brown, because that was the first hashtag in 2014 before Ferguson, before all the other hashtags. But we lost justice for Michael Brown. And the Ferguson report came out and the justice for Michael Brown report came out and everyone talks about the Ferguson report and no one talks about Mike anymore. And that's when we started making this movie because I realized down there that there were

all these films going on, but nobody was working on the Mike Brown case anymore. We have more with Leslie McSpadden and Jason Pollock. When we come back, don't move. It's The Breakfast Club. Good morning. The Breakfast Club. Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy, Angela Yee, Charlamagne Tha God.

We are The Breakfast Club. We have Jason Pollock, director of Strange Fruit, and also Mike Brown's mom, Leslie McSpadden in the building. Ye. So, Jason, what's your personal connection that made you want to get involved in telling this story? I had been working in schools that the education community calls dropout factories prior to Ferguson for three years. Dropout factories are a school with a 50 to 60 percent dropout rate. There are tons of these in America.

And so I was working with all these kids in these credit catch-up rooms, which is in the film. And they were the best kids. If you're in a dropout factory and you drop out, but then you go back to try to graduate high school, you're a rock star. You have so much thick skin. Some complex stuff happened to you. So I found out Mike was in that room and he had just graduated. And then I saw the picture that they were painting of him. And I just knew it was a lie.

Because I had been working for years with all these students. Like, if you're in that room, there's no way you're robbing stores at night. There's no way you're doing any of that. There's no way you would charge a cop after you are shot. There's no way you would go for a cop's gun. None of it made any sense. And all of it is a lie. Like, to go back to the convenience store tape, they didn't show us the full tape.

There was a whole tape the night before of Mike making what seemed to be a trade with the store and then going back the next day to get his cigarillos. And we put that out last year for the first time. They covered that tape up for three years. They willingly gave us the CD from the store, the people in the store. It was never part of any of the evidence. They never turned it over to St. Louis County, Ferguson, any of the lawyers. They just gave us personally the CD.

Say, here, here you go. What did the owner of the store say about that day? Or did he? The store never called. The store never called 911. The 911 call was made from a woman in the store who didn't know what she was seeing. To this day, the store has never called 911 on Michael Brown. Because they know, in my opinion,

they know what it was. And to this day, they still don't want to just admit what it was. It's interesting how you said everybody kind of like moved on, but I wonder about that. Is it because other things happened? Like other police shootings? It's like every day it's a new

hashtag. Yeah, Freddie Gray, Walter Scott. I mean, it's intense. But what I want to do with this is show that if we don't actually unravel these cases, if we just keep going to the streets and then losing and then going to the streets and losing, it took me four years to unravel this case. That's what it takes to do these cases. But we need someone assigned to each of these hashtags now so that we turn justice. Because

cops need to know that if they shoot and kill us, that they're going to go to jail. And right now they know they're not going to go to jail. As soon as you said that, I was like, they don't know. They don't know at all. In fact, they know that the system is going to protect them at all costs. How did that

change, though? Because we get justice for one. We get justice for Mike. We show that Darren is a criminal. And America starts realizing, oh, shit, these guys are criminals. So what can happen now, if anything? Legally. There is a lot of new evidence in the film.

He was never charged. First, we need to get him charged. I thought the case got dismissed. I thought they wrote it off as like... They declined to indict him. Yeah, correct. That was the first thing from Bob McCullough. The second was they wouldn't bring him up on

any charges because he said the whole thing about the physical evidence. We hired so many people to come out and they were specialists and professionals and this is what the film is showing you that they did a lousy, lazy job of investigating because they were never going to indict him,

prosecute him at all. It wasn't even a thought in their mind. So hopefully we can get a real... Is he still an officer now? No. What happens to this bitch? What happens to people like that? Are they going like a witness protection?

He's living 25 minutes away right now. No. Yes, having barbecues. And imagine what that's like to be the mother of your son, knowing that the killer of your child is having barbecues 25 minutes away from you every day. And she has to walk, drive by that store and drive down Canfield. I mean, the pain that she is going through, I cannot imagine. And she bears this for all of us.

She doesn't have to be here today. This is hard for her to discuss this. She's here for us so that we can try to help the world understand what happened. How do you feel about it? I don't even want to say his name, but Darren Wilson. Who? I know people tell me all the time I have to forgive so that I can move forward, but this isn't someone that was a part of my life or that I love and cared about. Talk about it. I don I have to forgive so that I can move forward, but this isn't someone that was a part of my life that I

love and cared about. Talk about it. I don't have to forgive him. Forgiveness is overrated. I say that all the time. I'm a perfectly fine fan of somebody. Thank you. Leslie, how hard is it for you to live there still? And even for the witnesses that came forward because I'm sure the police department gives, I know they're known to give people

a hard time. You know, I've never lived in Ferguson. Where I was staying was about three minutes away from the scene of what happened. I recently moved, and when I recently moved, I found out that he was 25 minutes away from me. I've been very disturbed since finding that out. I will rise above this and I'm going to look them in the face every day if I'm elected to city council and I'm going to run. And when I get back home, that's the first thing on my agenda. And that's the only way I'm dealing with it in a spiritual way. And I'm letting God be my God. I lean into him more every day. I've been given so many false promises by men,

you know, people here and there saying I'm going to get justice. And we see what has happened. A lot of those people have walked away from their position since then. I ended up with an old white 72-year-old judge because two black judges in St. Louis recused themselves from the case. I've been really hard, given a really hard time, you know. But God brought me to it and he's going to bring me through it. I've been strong up until this point. I've been a strong person my whole life.

Why did they recuse themselves from the case? They scared of the white man? Why did they? You know, they asked me to be on a panel with these very same women in May of last year, and I think they were a little nervous about what I may say to them because they wanted my remarks before I entered the panel. Wow.

So I declined it. I declined it. I'm sorry. I don't know why they did that because we speak education in black households very strongly for reasons like this, for when times like this happen that we can be there for one another. I mean, that's the whole point, I thought. I thought the whole point was how people that look like us represent us in those courtrooms. And the fact that when we have that opportunity, they don't want to stand up. They didn't. They're scared. They're scared to upset their master.

Mm-hmm. So they left. What are your plans for Ferguson if you do make city council? I just want to show them how it looks to be completely affected. And nothing happens afterwards. And that mental illness, it's real when something like this happens to you. And why does he get all the protection and we get absolutely nothing? Right.

My lawyers walked in there with the best presentation and they came back and they offered us money. And at that point being down to our third strike and not winning anything in the beginning, knowing that we will walk into this courtroom and look at the same jurors that decided not to indict, they wanted to take the settlement. So with that settlement, I'm going back and fighting again. And I just want to show them what change should look like for a community who has been shook into the court and you all didn't come back and try to even put a band-aid on it. And you might as well get the money.

I mean, the money, like you said, it enables you to continue to fight. It does. At legal stuff, of course. Yes. We had some of the best lawyers. Let me just say something about the money, though. These settlement fees, I think,

I call them lynching fees because that's all it is. There's no price you can put on these lives. It doesn't change a damn thing. And this is just the state paying off families for state-sanctioned murder because there's no justice. There are lynching fees. All right, we have more with Mike Brown's mom, Leslie McSpadden,

and Jason Pollock, the director of Don't Move. It's The Breakfast Club. Good morning. Good morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy, Angela Yee, Charlamagne Tha God. We are The Breakfast Club. We have Jason Pollock, director in the building, also Leslie McSpadden, which is Mike Brown's mom.

Charlamagne? So, Jason, what's your background? So, I started my career working for Michael Moore. I made Fahrenheit 9-11 with him. Oh, salute to Michael Moore. I founded the Traverse City Film Festival with him. Also, just shout out to Zilla Valentine for hooking this up. I really appreciate it.

And I've been in the industry since 2003, so, you know, it's like, there's no such thing as overnight success, right? I've been doing this for 16 years. I left Michael in 2006. I directed my first feature documentary called The Youngest Candidate. It's about teenagers that run for office in America.

I profiled non-white men running for office in the age of Obama and used that as a tool to get the youth vote out with Rock the Vote in 2007, 2008 in the rise of Obama. And then throughout his career, I was working in schools, like I was saying, and I run a creative agency, helped celebrities with their digital media strategies and all that stuff and was developing my next documentaries when Ferguson happened. And I basically had all these clients. I was so mad. And I felt very alone as a white man being mad. Nobody

around me even got it. And I was like, are you kidding me? This is like the defining moment of our generation right now. What do they say when you bring it up? I've lost a lot of friends from this. Really? Not friends, like white acquaintances, like I make them all feel very uncomfortable

now. They don't want to hear me talk the way I talk now. But like, I don't have any time for that. And we have a lot of work to do over here. So basically, I put my stuff in storage. I moved to Ferguson. I didn't know what I was going to do. As a white man, I was not going there with a Christopher Columbus type attitude on the white horse to save

the day. I was quiet. I was an ally. I was part of the community. I was helping and listening. And about eight months in, I realized, you know what? No one's doing anything about the Mike Brown case. And I can take that lane and people won't feel like I'm taking up space or competing with something else, basically. So I put together this proposal for the family, and I pitched it to Leslie, and she signed on in May of 2015. She gave me the rights to produce the movie. You seem very genuine and sincere. Was it hard for you to accept Jason, Leslie, at first when he came to you?

Because I'm sure it's hard to trust people, especially you had a lot of people coming at you with different things. Like, who is this colonizer? Yeah, hell yeah. I get it. You know, Jason was one of the only person to actually come to me with paperwork and a full layout of what he wanted to do and how he wanted to help. There's a lot of people out here who have done things and they do not have my permission. They didn't and they don't. So I appreciate Jason for what he has done. I was meeting Beyonce.

You were the new video. Let was meeting Beyonce. You was in the video. You was in the video. It was wonderful. I couldn't take it all in at the moment because I was still very vulnerable and kind of broken all over the place. But she's a great person. She comes to you just like a sister or like you've been knowing her for a long time. And so was Jay-Z, Swizz Beatz, Alicia Keys, and all the other people who have come to show me some love and shed some light and let me know that I can do this.

And, you know, they're there to support me. We look forward to supporting you. Anything you need, when it's time to run, you come back up here and we'll help you as much as we can. We got to get Stranger Fruit to number one on iTunes. All right. For Mike Brown. Is that right now?

I donated most of the profits to the family already. So if the film goes super viral, it will help the family and bring justice to Michael Brown. That is the vehicle of Stranger Fruit. We want more people, as many people as possible to see it. Yeah, I want to watch it. I ain't going to cry. I just get so f***ing mad when I watch them. The first one.

I can't watch it. It's too emotional. The whole thing is bad but we need to know what happened we need to know because it's not isolated incidents no more you know you see stephane clark like it's always something it's always the same model too like this film shows you the whole model of how they do it and it's the same thing every single time oh i do want to ask you though uh jason like how can more white people use their privilege to combat prejudice? Yeah. Don't just say, oh, I know white privileges. Oh, I'm so woke.

You're not woke. You're woke. If you go out and you work hard in the community with your hands and your brain and your mind and you shut up and you listen and you assist the people that know what they're doing. And you're not woke just because you know what the word white privilege is. You have to use your white privilege to break down white supremacy in an aggressive way. And I'm trying to do that every second of the day right now. And I'm trying to lead by example because you know what? I'm like.00001% of the society right now. And that's why I'm so upset about what Kanye West is doing. Because Kanye West is allowing little white teenagers who don't know shit, who are calling each other the N-word in high school, to think that's okay because Kanye likes Donald Trump.

And we're out here trying to say, no, that's not right. And I see Michael Brown and Justice for Michael Brown directly connected to the ignorance that's happening right now. Because all those little white kids with their Yeezys on, they think that Michael robbed a store and he charged Darren right now. And they're running around saying that. So we have a lot of work to do. White people need to wake up. I think the biggest problem in this country is not Republican racism. It's Democratic racism.

It's white progressive racism that's hurting us the most. I respect Republicans being like, I'm racist. I have a problem with Democrats looking me in the eye and saying I'm not racist and then going and living their lives in an incredibly racist way. And if we don't fix that, Donald Trump is going to win again in 2020. That's the conundrum, because some people are looking at what conservatives are doing and they're like, well, at least they're being honest. But that don't mean you should go side with them. That's right.

You shouldn't go side with them because they're being honest about racism. No, but I respect honesty. I wish the Democrats were more honest. If Democrats were more honest and said, you know what? We have a racism problem. Black community, we're sorry about that. We have a racism problem. We want to figure this out.

That's honesty. We could build with that. That's not happening right now. We got the DNC running around like they think they know what they're doing. They have no idea what they're doing. Like, I don't consider myself a Democrat after 2016. Me neither. I'm registered as an independent.

But I'll tell you, I'll vote for a piece of grass over Donald Trump right now. A piece of grass. And we need to make sure that that happens. So anyone saying... No, I don't want a piece of grass running. Yeah, I don't know. Listen. You never know.

Listen, listen. This guy is so dangerous to our culture. I work with a lot of undocumented students. He announced no DACA on Easter. And all of my Hispanic students were crying in church. And then Kanye West wears a Trump hat. So don't tell me that we're okay right now. Because when you look at the pain that he is inflicting in the human way on our society, no, no, there's no accepting that.

And I would vote for a cloud over Donald Trump right now. And Leslie, and part of what you're doing will be the solution running for city council and being a representative for people that have gone through maybe things you've gone through or have family members that have or friends that have because we need that type of representation. Somebody who really cares about their own community that wants to make changes. That'll be me. We appreciate you guys for joining us. You got our support. When the running happens, you call, you come by, we will support you.

And you as well, Jason. Also, we're out on Stars June 18th. A documentary? Television premiere. So we'd love to come back, give you an update. We're going to be running the movement from then. It's always interesting to hear stuff like this, because I always think about that Martin Luther King Jr. quote, and injustice anywhere, the threat to justice everywhere.

But I don't feel like people really embrace that, at least white Americans. Correct, correct. They don't feel it. But you know what? A cop could kill me too and get away with it. Cops don't kill white people, but they could. The laws are the same. Until white people feel threatened by it, they're not going to wake up.

They don't even realize what cops are doing to the black community right now. So we need to understand like, you know what? If you're white, they could kill you too. Guess what? We live in a police state, right? Right. Don't be so far removed that you feel like it doesn't affect you until it does. That's right. And don't wait. Don't wait until it knocks on your door.

Absolutely. Well, there you have it. Jason Pollock, Miss Leslie McSpadden. We appreciate you guys for joining us. Thank you so much. And check out Stranger Fruit. What does it come out one more time? It's out right now on iTunes, Amazon, VOD nationwide. Please download Rent It right now. Profits go to the Brown family if we go super viral. And then we have our television premiere on Starz June 18th. All right. Well, thank you guys for joining us. We appreciate you.

Thank you. It's The Breakfast Club. Good morning. The Breakfast Club. Good morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy, Angela Yee, Charlamagne Tha Guy. We are The Breakfast Club. Let's get to the rumors.

Let's talk Cardi B. It's time. She's spilling the tea. This is The Rumor Report with Angela Yee on The Breakfast Club. Well, Cardi B's former manager is suing her, that shaft. And that's because he says that basically he got shafted. He says that his contacts and personal team of writers and producers are responsible for Bodak Yellow and that that's how she got that hit song that allowed her to get her major record deal

and her publishing deal that's worth millions of dollars. And he also says that she's been defaming him by telling her fiance Offset and others that he robbed her blind. He said Offset sent him a text message in December that said, you better stop playing, acting like you don't know you've taken her ish from her. You a snake. You can't hide from me and you're not about to play my wife. What's with all that guy's shaft, man?

All kinds of drama. So he's suing her now for $10 million. Now, in response, she's saying that she had every right to drop him because he was taking all kinds of cash from her behind her back, and she first confronted him on Super Bowl weekend, and she said that he would basically cook the books to make it look like she was getting less money than she was actually making.

And then he would keep the difference. So for instance, if she got paid $100,000, he would tell her she was making $50,000 and then take the balance. In addition, he got 20% of her manager's fee, which is way more than what's normal. I mean, I hate to see that happen between our people. You know, people come up together, and then things change.

Right. Clearly. So, I mean, I guess we'll see how this whole thing plays out. I'm not sure what their contract with each other is like or what the legalities of the situation is, but it is a sad situation because he has been with her for so long, and then for her, a trust situation is difficult to have to deal with. Well, I want to salute Shaft for all the times that we

booked Cardi B and he gave us reasonable numbers. Okay. The CIAA parties and Charlotte and whatnot. Alright. Cardi did two of them for us. But we didn't book her. Was she promoting on it? She did it for free. Yeah. Oh, she did? Okay. She did? Uh-oh. No, I'm just playing.

Alright, alright. Alright, John Legend versus Kanye West. No, I'm just playing. All right, all right. All right, John Legend versus Kanye West. Now, Kanye West ran ahead and posted some text messages between himself and John Legend. And we discussed how John Legend was just tweeting and seemed like he was talking about Kanye and his tweets. Well, he went ahead and hit up Kanye and said, hey, it's John Legend. I hope you'll reconsider aligning yourself with Trump. You're way too powerful and influential to endorse

who he is and what he stands for. As you know, what you say really means something to your fans. They are loyal to you and respect your opinion. So many people who love you feel so betrayed right now

because they know the harm that Trump's policies cause, especially to people of color. Don't let this be part of your legacy. You're the greatest artist of our generation. John Legend is absolutely right. And Kanye responded, I love you, John, and part of your legacy. You're the greatest artist of our generation. John Legend is absolutely right.

And Kanye responded, I love you, John, and I appreciate your thoughts. You bringing up my fans and my legacy is a tactic based on fear used to manipulate my free thought. John should have replied back, but did you read the text that I sent you, though? And Kanye said, I tweeted the John text to show that there are people around me that disagree with me

and voice their opinion. I respect everyone's opinion, but I stand my ground. If you feel something, don't let peer pressure manipulate you. And, you know, he responded. Well, John Legend basically said, since you're posting text messages, let me add that I have a new single out. And there you have it.

Do you think that Kanye is just rebelling for the sake of rebelling? I don't know. He's the type of person, if you tell him not to do something, he goes harder at it. It's almost like his superpower is his weakness. Alright, well, John Legend, actually, I saw him yesterday. He did lip service and that podcast is coming out today.

And since it was happening right then, I spoke to him about it and here's what he has to say about Kanye and his impact. Yeah, and it's not, it wasn't about trying to make him feel bad. I just wanted him to think about what he's saying and what it means to people. And like words, I mean, he's talking about free thought and free thinking a lot. That's fine for him to think whatever he wants to think.

But every time he makes an utterance and he publishes it, it has impact. And politicians, when they do things, it has impact. And when you align yourself with them, it doesn't mean you're endorsing every single thing they stand for, but you're endorsing their agenda, essentially. All right. He also talks more about Kanye just basically having to realize the impact on the average person. Sometimes we have the luxury to be insulated from that, from the consequences of what politicians do.

When politicians do bad things that affect a lot of ordinary people they don't affect us well they don't they don't affect us in the same way we don't feel that pain and so we we have more luxury to just kind of align ourselves with whoever but other people they feel the consequences of that, and it's not a game. And let's just skip to the last one on whether or not he thinks this whole thing with Kanye is a gimmick. He's always also sold himself as authentic to everybody, and like

when he said things that you might have disagreed with, you always believed he was saying it because he really felt it. Right. And if this is a gimmick, which based on his text, I don't know if it is a gimmick. Like, he seems like he just feels this way right now, but if it is a gimmick, which based on his text, I don't know if it is a gimmick. He seems like he just feels this way right now. But if it is a gimmick, it's not good for him because part of what he's always said to us, he was being real. If he really believes this, then I just hope he'll think about it some more and reconsider.

But if he doesn't believe it, then it's not a good look. John is absolutely right, but I don't think it's a gimmick because why would Kanye need a gimmick to sell records? He just said he doesn't think it's a gimmick because why would Kanye need a gimmick to sell records? He just said he doesn't think it's a gimmick. Yeah, I see people saying that, though, like this is just a gimmick for Ye to sell records. Nah, I don't think it's a gimmick. You've been selling sneakers for a whole goddamn year. You gotta ask the question, so he doesn't think it's a gimmick.

He thinks he really believes it. Yeah, and he was saying he would have voted for Trump since late 2016, right before he had his mental breakdown or whatever. All right. Well, I'm Angela Yee, and that is your Rumor Report. And I'm going to do a Kanye mix this morning at 9 a.m., a pre-sunken place Kanye mix. Why don't you wait until the interview drop?

Then we can know. He still wants to do an old mix. Oh, what interview? Nothing. Go ahead. When's your interview drop? I don't know. You just said, why don't you wait?

Well, you tell me what day to wait. I'm in the sunken place. Leave me alone. I don't hear anything over here. Who are you giving that donkey to, sunken place, Charlamagne? He can't hear you. He's in the sunken place. Why you got your mouth open?

You got your mouth open, your eyes closed, and you can't hear me. Oh, now I can hear you. Oh, now you can hear me. Donkey of the day is going to a young man named Tony Tutuni. I think is that how you pronounce his name? Listen, I've heard some very frivolous lawsuits

in my day, but this one takes the cake. He needs to come to the front of the congregation. We'd like to have a word with him. All right, we'll get into that when we come back. Keep it locked.

This is Breakfast Club. Good morning. This don't be a donkey because right now you want some real donkeys. It's time for Donkey of the Day. So if you ever feel I need to be a donkey, man, hit me with the heel. Did she get donkey of the day So if you ever feel I need to be a donkey man

Hit me with the heel Did she get donkey in the name please I have become donkey Of the day At the breakfast club bitches You're a donkey Yes donkey of the day for Friday April 27th Goes to Tony to Tony

Did I pronounce that right Tony to Toony Tony to Toony Now according you go. Tony to Tooney. Now, according to TMZ, Tony is someone who proclaims himself Instagram famous. I never heard of him. Have y'all? No. He has 1.5 million followers on Instagram.

Now, I don't know what that translates to in terms of dollars, but Tony clearly has money for frivolous lawsuits because Tony has a dog named Hef. When I say dog, I don't mean a homeboy. I mean an actual domesticated carnivorous mammal. Okay, a dog, all right, with four legs

and a cute sense of smell and a barking, howling, or whining voice. Okay, man's best friend. You know what I'm talking about, right? A dog. Quick daddy dog joke for the room. What kind of dog does Dracula have? Anybody want to guess?

Hmm. I have no idea. I don't know. Bloodhound. There you go, Bloodhound! Shut up, Dad. Anyway, now, Hef was doing a photo shoot with a bikini model named Deanna Munira. Let the record show, from what I can see, Deanna is a very attractive young lady with a banging body.

Now, she is 5'6". This is very important to note because Hef the dog, when he stands up on two legs, is five feet tall. The reason height is a factor in this story is because Tony is suing Deanna. Now, the reason he's suing Deanna is because Tony says Deanna sexually assaulted his dog, Hef. You heard me right. Tony is suing Deanna because he claims Deanna sexually assaulted his dog. Before we continue, let me break up this disturbing news with another quick daddy dog joke for the room. What breed of dog loves to take a bath?

Anybody want to guess? A bath dog? No. I don't know. A shampoo. Shut up, dad. Now, according to the lawsuit that's available to see on TMZ, Tony filed a lawsuit against Deanna,

and Tony says Deanna began sensually playing with Hef, arousing Hef by playing with his genitals and masturbating the dog. That's disgusting. Let's keep in mind Hef is a dog, okay? Word on the street is that Hef keeps the best time, too. So you know what that makes Hef? What? A watchdog! Shut up, Dad. That was

kind of funny. I like that. That was funny. Now, if you watch the video, Hef the dog is totally with it, okay? He even mounts her and thrusts her and even appears to place his front legs on Deanna's ass. Now, the problem is, Tony told Deanna and the photographer he did not want the footage on the internet, and they agreed,

but the video and photos showed up on Instagram a couple days later. This is crazy to see, because she's 5'6", like I told y'all, and the dog, when it stands up on its legs, is five feet tall, so they damn near eye to eye, and this story is really making me ask the question,

what kind of dog can jump as high as a tall building? Oh, my God. Any kind, because buildings can't jump. Shut up, Dad. That was corny. Now, Tony also reposted the video, which makes no sense because you're suing someone for posting a video you don't want out there,

and the caption he posted is, I can't believe this thirsty girl used my dog to gain followers. Tony is suing Deanna for fraud and infliction of emotional distress. And he's suing her for over $1.5 million in damages. He wants money to match his followers, clearly. We just need to throw America in rice. Okay, America just has too much privilege and too much freedom. Who has the time, the money, the energy to sue a woman for sexually harassing their dog?

And what happens when Hef the dog has to take the stand in a court of law? Huh? Will Hef swear to tell the whole roof and nothing but the roof? Huh? Shut up, Dad. Some donkey of the days just sell themselves. Please give

Tony Tutini the biggest hee-haw. Oh, no matter what, give him some sweet sounds in the hammer tones. Oh, now you are the donkey of the day. You are the donkey of the day, hee-haw. That joke sucked, bro. Can Dad get one more off? Let me get one more off. No.

This is only going to take a few seconds, okay? A father and his six-year-old son are walking down the street, and they come across two dogs having sex, all right? The boy is shocked by what he sees, and he asks his father, Daddy, what are they doing? The father, not wanting to lie to his son, says, They're just making a puppy. Okay, says the son.

The father is relieved that he doesn't probe further. The next day, the son bursts into his parents' room and sees them having sex. The father jumps up and quickly covers himself, knowing he's in for an interesting talk. He walks downstairs with his little boy and as they sit at the dining room table, his son asks him, Danny, what were

you and mommy doing? Again, wanting to be honest with his son, daddy says me and mommy were making a baby. His son pauses for a moment and then he replies, flip mommy over, I want a puppy. Shut up, dad. That one wasn't good.

A little too long? That was a little too long to get to the point, yeah. It's kind of funny, but you could have just slowed it down a little bit. He said slowed it down. Yeah, all right.

All right, thank you, my dog. Oh, my God. I like that. Shut up, Dad. I like that. I like that. All right, up next, we have Kamau Bell joining us. W. Kamau Bell.

W. Kamau Bell. You know what the W stands for? No. Woof. That was a good one. That was a good one. That was a good one. Oh, my goodness. This is a Friday.

It's The Breakfast Club. Good morning. The Breakfast Club. Good morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy, Angela Yee, Charlamagne Tha Guy. We are The Breakfast Club. We have Kamau Bell in the building. W. Kamau Bell.

I was going to say Walter. W. Kamau Bell. I thought it was Kamau. Kamau. Kamau. Kamau. I to say Walter. W. Kamal Bell. I thought it was Kamal. Kamal. Kamal. Kamal. I'm glad we did this part on the radio. Just to let people know I'm not that famous.

How do you pronounce your name? Mr. Bell. Thank you. Emmy winning Mr. Bell. Emmy award winning. Congrats on that too, man. Thank you very much. That was big because it wasn't like televised, but then I saw you

like, was it televised? No, it was like, it was on FX. So, you know, it was like, that's kind of television, but it's not the prime time. It's not the prime time Emmys with the real famous people. Like, you know. But I saw you, I saw the announcement. I was like, oh, that's dope. Yeah.

No, I never expected to win an Emmy. So, you know, I'm ready to quit. It was good. Yeah. No, yeah. It was big. I didn't, I'd never thought in my career, the weird path my career has taken, I didn't think it ended up with me accepting an Emmy Award from LL Cool J.

That's not something I put in my dream journal. And that's your first one. It's my first one, yeah. So you got some more to come, right? You know, one is fine, but I'll take more if they hand them to me. It's very interesting because the show United Shades of America is not a comedy show at all. I mean, it's humor in it when you're watching.

Some people would say I'm not a comedian at all, so that's how it goes. But yeah, I'm just, you know, I like things that educate you, are interesting, are compelling, and funny at the same time. I think that the reason why people like it is because it's on CNN as a news network,

but you're getting information without the same tone that news brings. I find it interesting that you hid your Starbucks cup before you walked in here this morning. I didn't have a Starbucks cup. I'm just missing a cup. Look at this. I'm it interesting that you hid your Starbucks cup before you walked in here this morning. I didn't have a Starbucks cup. Look at this. I'm drinking Red Bull. I can't go to Starbucks.

My three-year-old calls it the bad place. The bad place. You had a bad place. My wife is white. My three-year-old is mixed. Her grandmother, my wife's mom, got super mad at her for calling it the bad place. We had a discussion at the dinner table with my white mother-in-law, my mixed kid, my black mom, me and my wife about Starbucks being the bad place.

How does she know? What does she see? She's smart. We talk about this stuff all the time in our house. So it's not, we don't realize how much we're talking about it, but she just picked up on it. So we passed the Starbucks. She goes, that's the bad place.

So no more coffee for her. Yeah, no more coffee for her. How does she deal with, you know, dad being black and mom being white and seeing the, I guess, injustice of happiness? Dad being black. Yeah, yeah. I don't know if you know, but you black. Yeah, I'm black.

I'm real black. Are you tall? I got an afro. Yeah, I'm tall. I'm 260. I'm real. Yeah. If I get killed, I'm a gentle giant.

I know how it works. He was a gentle giant. Yeah. I know how it works. He was a gentle giant. Yeah, I know how it works. Well, see, guys, I have a seven-year-old, too, and she's the one who understands that, like, you know, we talked about the things, you know, I bought a book, because, you know, there's great books out there for kids,

so I bought a book about Harriet Tubman and read it to her, and it says black people used to be slaves. They could be sold, like, sacks of potatoes, and so they understand that that happened. And then at the end of the day, they go, that doesn't make sense, which is the same thing we all feel about that stuff. It doesn't make sense. Yeah, it's the weirdest thing in the world.

My daughter's nine, and she has so many questions now. And it's like, you really can't explain racism. No, you can't. But you've got to experience it. I don't want her to experience it. And she will. Yeah. And plus, my daughter, my seven-year-old is clearly mixed.

My three-and-a-half-year-old for white people is going to pass. She's going to be able to get the state secrets. So it's like they're going to be living separate lives and I have a third daughter on the way. So we'll see what happens there. Yeah, thank you. Didn't you get kicked out of a coffee shop yourself before? Thanks for bringing that up. Yes, I did.

Yeah. No, I got it in Berkeley, California. I got kicked out of the Starbucks. No, no, no, no, no. It was the independent kicking out of a coffee shop. They thought you were trying to sell something to your wife. Yeah, they thought. I mean, the story is so ridiculous.

Like, if it was a screenplay, you'd be like, take that part out. This black guy just came in and started talking to this white lady and this baby that looked like him. I remember that in your book. Yeah, yeah. So the story, if it was a screenplay, you'd pull something out because it doesn't make sense. So it was my birthday. We had eaten at that coffee shop earlier that day. I went back to meet my wife with our baby and all her friends who were white women with

babies because it was a mom's group. Oh, my goodness. And I went and I bought at the bookstore right next to this place called the Elmwood Cafe. I bought a book about the loving couple who was the couple who struck down the interracial marriage law. It's a children's book. So I buy this book about interracial marriage is legal and it's good and it's okay. I go to the coffee shop, show it to one of my wife's

friends and somebody knocks on the window and says, get out of here. Whoa. Yeah, yeah, like it was 1950s Alabama. Yeah, yeah. What were you wearing? Admittedly, I was wearing a hoodie, Charlemagne. So, you know, it's kind of on me. It's kind of on me. I'm sorry. It was an Oakland-ish hoodie, so it was an expensive hoodie,

but it was a hoodie hoodie And did you walk Did you leave I mean we left But in like a Not in like a running way Like in a You know this is racist F*** you

This is bull My wife To her credit We were getting in the car With the baby She's like no I gotta go back And she went back And read the woman for filth

On the sidewalk The way my mom Would have liked her to White privilege As you should Yeah she used her White skin privilege I mean that's

I think that's why The cops weren't called Because my white wife Was like, I'm with this Negro. I represent him. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I represent him. She's like, you know, so. And I'm not saying everybody should marry a white woman.

I know that's not a popular thing to say. But I am saying that in my case, she was able to stand up right there and sort of like make people back down. Does that happen a lot? Which one? She stands up for me? No, no. I take her everywhere. I take her everywhere. I use her white privilege like Starbucks Wi- me? No, no. I take her everywhere.

I use her white privilege like Starbucks Wi-Fi. Well, no, she uses my male privilege and I use her white privilege. We go back and forth. Trading privileges. People look at you odd still to this day. We see interracial couples, but I guess it still bothers people. We have sort of blocked it out, but yeah, there are times when things will happen and my wife will be like,

is that good? Yeah. We're in the Bay Area, but as we learned in Berkeley, racism's all over this country. You know, it probably happens more in the Bay Area than it does in like Alabama, because in Alabama, they're really used to us mixing it up down there, you know? So, yeah. Now I see why you're drinking Red Bull, though. Yes, right. What's that? You hate coffee.

That's right. Coffee hasn't been good to me in the last five years or three years. Yeah, yeah. Now, do you get flack from your own people for reaching across enemy lines? You didn't even let me finish. Do you get flack from your own people? Yes, I do, Charlamagne. Thanks for asking. What is the two-part question?

Do you get flack from your own people? I mean, you know, I did the episode with the Ku Klux Klan. Black people were like, even you tweeted, like, what is this Negro doing? Because why are you talking to the Klan? We already know the Klan exists. I get flack from people when i talked to richard spencer the first episode of last season why is he talking to this guy why isn't he punching him in the face so but then i also get in the same twitter feed i get people going on white people i didn't know

the clan existed oh my god i can't believe we're sort of like waking up to the idea that that kind of racism still exists i get i get people going oh my god i didn't know that who this richard spencer guy was i can't believe that. So I do get flack. I accept the flack. It's part of the job. But also I think that there are sometimes more people on the side going, I didn't know this existed, than the people who are like, why would you do this? But also, that's why

I do episodes like Chicago. We did an episode about gang violence in Chicago, which is the one we won the Emmy for. This season is our blackest season ever because we have three black episodes out of eight. So it's the 37th episode. We have an episode about historically black colleges and universities We have an episode about the Gullah Geechee of South Carolina That's right And then we do one in Mobile, Alabama

Where my dad is featured in the episode Talking about living in the South Let's talk about the HBCU What is that episode about? I'm going to get a lot of flack over this one too Because I didn't feature all the HBCUs. I didn't go to all a hundred of them. I went to Morehouse, I went to Spellman,

Morris Brown in Atlanta, and talked to a student from Howard and then we also did one, we did Lincoln University in Pennsylvania. You didn't feel like traveling. No, no. We just don't have a budget. We don't have that anti-Bourdain budget so we have to sort of figure out how to do it.

And we only get four or five days for each shoot, so we have to pack it in. It's the best school, but we let you live. I see, that's what I'm saying. I see the Hampton behind you. Anyway. Yeah, wrapping it up. Trying to wrap it up.

Yeah, thanks for coming by. Thanks for coming by. Now, let's talk about HBCUs. What did you discover? What did you see? Well, I did not go to an HBCU. I went to the same university that Trump graduated from, University of Pennsylvania.

Oh. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Wow, that's different. I was one of those Negroes. So you're not like his supporter. You're like, well, he University of Pennsylvania. Oh. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Wow, that's different. I was one of those Negroes. So you're not like his supporter. You're like, well, he didn't finish, though. Neither did I, so. So we have that in common.

That's all we have in common. But the big thing is, like, people, I always heard people go, why do we still have HBCUs? You know, why are they still relevant? And we talk a lot about the relevance of HBCUs. And we also learned, I also learned a lot, that a lot of black people go to HBCUs, go there because they went to predominantly white schools in high school

and need to sort of reconnect with their blackness. That's why Envy might want to send his daughter to Hampton, right? Yeah, that's why I want to send my daughter. I was going to ask, would you send your daughter to HBCU? I mean, I'm going to after going to Spelman, I'm going to make sure they go visit Spelman, because Spelman was the most impressive of all of them. Spelman feels like a black woman think tank. It doesn't feel like a college.

But you'll go to Hampton. See, I know my black Twitter twitter is gonna be like all over that night i got it i'm ready yeah that's good i think that's i think it's dope but i think you're right i think a lot of students go to catholic schools or private schools as high schools because their parents want to take them out the hood yeah and then they kind of miss that and want to go back there because i want my daughter to go to hbcu hopefully she does because i think she misses that now yeah but if she wants to go to howard whatever hbc you want wants to go to Howard? If you go to whatever HBCU you want to, she wants to. Okay. But if she go to Howard,

she got paid for it herself. She got a loan. And I think that's what's important about the episode is that we, a lot of the themes of the season is that black is not a monolith. The point of going to HBCU

is a lot of the black people who go to the schools are saying like, I found so much diversity here. Black people are not all one thing. Right. So there's black people who are listening to hip hop.

There's black people listening to Rage Against the Machine. There's black people doing all across the spectrum of blackness. And you can reconnect. You can find your people at HBCU. If I had known that when I went to college, I probably would have applied to an HBCU. All right, we have more with W. Kamau Bell, comedian. When we come back, don't move.

It's The Breakfast Club. Good morning. Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy, Angela Yee, Charlamagne Tha Guy. We are The Breakfast Club. We have W. Kamau Bell in the building. Charlamagne? Do you think it's possible to be Kanye West, support Trump,

and for us to be like, okay, yeah, I guess we cool with that? I mean, I feel like this is going to put so much pressure on the album. The music has to be so good. I feel like it's got to be like classic Kanye to the nth degree for this to be okay. What if he has a song called Love Trump, but it's a banging song?

But you're talking about the most banging fire song in the history of hip hop with like, I mean, Tupac song. Oh,

where did the Tupac verse come from? It just puts so much pressure on the music because there's all this side eye now. This is the greatest social experiment I think I've seen in a long time. I'm not saying, I don't know

if it's a social experiment or not, but it feels like a social experiment. I think Kanye is a social experiment. I think he lives his life that way. He's trying to provoke, but I think we live in dangerous times where I'm not saying black people can't be Republicans. My dad worked in the Republican administration of Alabama.

I know black, we all know black Republicans. Black people shouldn't support racism. Trump is a racist. That's why I brought the shirt. Yes, he's a racist. Supporting Trump is supporting a legacy of racism and a current practice of racism. There's all these Republicans

like Tara Setmire who's on CNN is a reasonable black Republican. We can talk about financial stuff. We can talk about the military. But Trump's not a Republican. No. No. You think sometimes people get so removed from the average everyday person problems that they just really are disconnected.

Once you marry Kardashian, you are so far away from the streets of Chicago. Even if you go visit the streets of Chicago as Kanye, you're surrounded by people, right? He's not going there by himself. You know, he's not. So there's a challenge of being a rich black person. That even if you came from the hood or you came from poverty, it's hard to reconnect once you become a rich black person. I think it's a, and we see it time and time again, that once black people get rich, they start to, we lift ourselves up. I lifted myself up with my bootstraps why can't you do the same so i think it's a real

you know i think about that as i start i'm not a rich black person but i'm certainly a black person who is doing well and so i'm always reminding myself and trying to connect with people to so i don't go i don't know why everybody doesn't have a house with a cul-de-sac you know what i mean like it's like this is i'm benefiting from what i've the work i've put in but i still got to connect with the community and still got to connect with the activists who will call me out. That's why I don't mind getting called on on Twitter, because who will call me out when I go, that was too much. Well, just to play white devil's advocate.

You know, people would talk about that pull-em-up-by-the-bootstraps mentality. I don't look at it as that. I look at it as an outcast and goody-mob mentality. When they said, you need to get up, get out, and get something. Don't let the days of your life pass by. You need to get up, get out, and get something, because you and I got to do for you and I. Like, you do have to put in the work regardless.

You do have to put in the work, but everybody who puts in the work doesn't lift themselves up. Everybody doesn't have the same level of opportunities. There's lots of... I don't think none of us do, though. No, but I'm saying, but I'm saying, but we can't, if somebody,

if you lift yourself up by your bootstraps and somebody else is putting in work and doesn't get lifted up, it may be because the system they were in at the time did not allow them to lift themselves up. I'm not saying everybody. I worked hard. I'm not saying you got lucky. You got to put the hard work in.

But we can't act like just putting the hard work in is going to guarantee some level of success. The hard work that a black person puts in and the hard work that a white person put in is not on history. You look at statistically doesn't add up to the same level of success. Absolutely right. But success is subjective, too, because I think that, it doesn't add up to the same level of success. You're absolutely right. But success is subjective too. Because I think that, you know, we live in a country where success to us means super rich, super wealthy, celebrity.

That's not always success. You might make $50,000 a year. You got a nice little place to stay, a car, your family good, you happy. Yeah, but I think we also, the problem with black success is that it doesn't transfer across generations. Right. You want to show you're taking care of the next generation, the problem with black success is that it doesn't transfer across generations. Right.

You want to show you're taking care of the next generation, the next generation. You have things to hand down. But it's new, though. The entrepreneurship. No, it's not. You don't even know how to segregate what 50 is? But I think the problem is that we're not going to catch up to white people. Never.

No. And so, like, the New York Times did a whole thing with, like, all these infographics about, like, if a black person achieves well is born rich they're not likely to to stay in that level of richness they're going to fall out of it they're likely to fall out of it if a white person is born rich they're much this is particularly black men are not are if even if you're born like a like a kid of a rich black person like michael jordan's son there's i'm not saying they're going to happen but it's likely that you will fall out of that to a lower level not all the way down and some fall all the way down white people don't generally fall out of that to a lower level. Not all the way down. And some fall all the way down. White people don't generally fall out of that level that they're born into.

Now, what the hell? Here we go. Yola, Geechee, Mun. Don't you disrespect my culture, boy. Now, what is that? Is that West India? Is that 843, boy? Trinidadian with Jamaican?

That's right. I'll box you in your moat, boy. Everything he said. Right. It's the areas along the coast. a lot of it's South Carolina. It's basically the black people from West Africa who were enslaved there and they lived on the sea.

The Sephardim lived on the sea islands. Now the thing was that once slavery was ended, white people fled those islands because they were too hard to get to and once slavery was over so black people in that part of the country were allowed to hold on to a lot of their West African culture, talk that talk like you were just talking about. They have their own dialect.

Geechee. Geechee, yeah. And so it's a very, and this again, black is not a monolith. You think black people sort of speak the same vernacular, not in that part of the country. Hell no. It's just so interesting. I did an ancestry test. I did 23andMe, and I found out I was 97% West African.

Yo, wow. So I'm sure most people in Charleston are. Yeah. I just did African ancestry, so I'm waiting to see exactly where in West Africa. I'm hoping for Nigeria. That's funny. I do, I love Nigeria. I just like Nigeria. But I'm hoping for Souto Lagos, my homie DJ Kupi. But when I

heard that, I was like, wow. And then you realize, like, damn, we really are, like, right there. It's funny, I just did the ancestry test, and I found out most black people are 25% like, wow. And then you realize like, damn, we really are like right there. And it's funny. I just did the ancestry test and I found out most black people are 25% white European. I was 27% and I was like, man, I'm literally not black enough. I mean, I got, listen.

People get devastated when they find out how white they are. I'm like 2%. I'm black as f***. I'm so happy. I know, I know. It makes you feel like, it makes you feel better, doesn't it?

Yes. Yeah. And I was like, everybody in high school is right. Yeah. I'm not happy. I know, I know. It makes you feel better, doesn't it? Yes. And I was like, everybody in high school is right. I'm not black enough. Don't you think that America has an unhealthy obsession with celebrity? Yes. I mean, I think America, a lot of this country was founded on Europeans, British principles, and we still want kings and queens.

Ooh. So I think we still have this. Our celebrity obsession is chased. We want to believe that there are some people who are a higher class of people than us you think that's just an American thing though? well I think we've exported that to the world we export pop culture to the world

we don't import a lot of pop culture even the ones who come here from other countries have to then do it through our system so yeah I think it's certainly an unhealthy obsession and I think it's gotten worse because of social media. Like, I don't really need to know. Like, knowing what Kanye thinks about Trump is going to affect how people approach his music.

I was watching Twitter yesterday. He had two million tweets. I'm like, really? Like, two million people care about who he says he likes? And that's the problem I find myself in, too. Like, I got to care because two million people care. Boom. Like, that's the problem I find myself in too. Like, I got to care because too many people care. Boom.

Like, that's the problem I find. Like, I don't want to talk about this. And you do the rounds like this and you go on a lot of CNN shows and they ask me questions like, I actually don't care. And that's what I was saying earlier. I said, I really don't care.

Like, I'm not interested in what... But we have to, we have to, in media, you have to have an opinion on it. You have to talk about it, right? Yeah, even if your opinion is, I don't care. That was my opinion. There you go. Well, I sat down and chopped it up with him, so. I know you have to have an opinion on it. We have to talk about it, right? Yeah, even if your opinion is, I don't care. That was my opinion. There you go.

Well, I sat down and chopped it up with him, so. I know you listen to that. You get invited to the car. Well, no, we did an interview, so you'll get to hear more about how he feels. And he flew Charlamagne out. He definitely didn't fly me out. He definitely did not fly me out. You didn't pay for your own ticket, though.

Somebody paid for that ticket. I was already out there. I was out there on business. All right. But I said, somebody paid for that ticket. There's no way. I'm not flying just to hear no goddamn music. That's what I'm saying. I don't that ticket. I was already out there. I was out there on business. All right. But I said, somebody paid for that ticket. There's no way. I'm not flying just to hear no goddamn music.

That's what I'm saying. I don't blame you. I don't blame you. I was already out there. Now, you can finally talk about the Chris Rock doc. Yeah, the Chris Rock doc is a special about,

it's an hour-long special, an hour-and-a-half-long special on Bring the Pain. I can't. It's going to air on A&E. Yeah, you're in it. Chris is in it. Wanda Sykes is amazing in it.

Ava DuVernay is in it. It's a lot of great people. His brother, Tony Rock, is amazing in it. Chris is in it. Wanda Sykes is amazing in it. Ava DuVernay is in it. It's a lot of great people. His brother Tony Rock is amazing in it. I feel like Tony Rock is the hidden star of this thing and people are going to think, why are we seeing him more? I mean, he's super close to it as well. Yeah, well that's the thing he talks about. He's got a quote at the end. He's like,

I was never close to my brother growing up. I'm not close to my brother now. We were never closer than during the making of Bring the Pain. Really? Yeah, it's really. I mean, I think it's actually, again, it's not funny all the way through. It's got some emotional stuff to it. It's Chris talking about his career when he was not doing anything.

And Tony's very honest about he was not funny. You know, like Chris is like, I was okay. Tony's like, he was just an average black comedian not doing well. Oh, I can't believe I forgot Oprah's in it. We got Oprah. How do you think? We got Oprah. Well, we have Oprah. I can't believe I forgot. Oprah's in it. We got Oprah. How do you forget Oprah? We got Oprah. Well, we have Oprah right here.

Kanye said I'm the new Oprah, which lets you know he's suffering from mental illness of some sort. Yeah, yeah. So we got a 25-minute interview with Oprah, and so she's throughout it, too. I mean, yeah. So we didn't get Chappelle. We got Oprah. Okay.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, thank you for joining us. When's the new season of United Shades of America? Oh, April 29th. This Sunday, April 29th at 10.15 p.m. after Anthony Bourdain, only on CNN. And what's the first episode? The first episode is the U.S.-Mexico border. That was a great trap you just did.

Thank you. I've been doing that a little bit. Yeah, thank you. What, you going to help some Mexicans start building the wall down there? Yeah, it's all about me going, you know, this wall's a good idea. I think we need to do this. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And I just want to say, I guarantee this will not be your highest viewed episode.

Let's be clear about that. do this. I guarantee this will not be your highest viewed episode. I want to put out that guarantee that this will not be your highest viewed episode on the internet. Boom, boom, boom. Alright. Boom, boom. It's Kamau Bell. W. Kamau Bell is The Breakfast Club. Good morning.

The Breakfast Club. Hey everybody. It's DJ Envy, Angela Yee, Charlamagne Tha Guy. Bell is The Breakfast Club. Good morning. The Breakfast Club. Hey, everybody. It's DJ Envy, Angela Yee, Charlamagne Tha Guy. We are The Breakfast Club. Let's get to the rumors. Let's talk Janelle Monáe. Listen up. It's just in.

All the gossip. Gossip. The rumor report. Gossip. Gossip. With Angela Yee. It's the rumor report. The Breakfast Club.

Well, first of all, Janelle Mon Monae's album is in stores today, so make sure you stream that. Absolutely. In stores online. You know, I guess we don't really say in stores as much, but Dirty Computer's out as well as her Emotion picture. So check all of that out. There's still some music in stores?

I'm dead serious. They do. Yeah, absolutely. Yeah, they do. But I think that's not how people consume their music as much anymore. Definitely not. I love screaming. Thank God for it.

And some people don't even bother putting it in stores. Some people do digital only releases. It just depends. All right. But she has opened up on the cover of Rolling Stone. They did a story on her and she discusses her sexuality. Now, she said she's still learning about her sexuality. She said, but then later I read about pansexuality and I was like, oh, these are things that I identify with, too.

I'm open to learning more about myself. She said, I just live my life and people can feel free to discuss whatever it is they think and use whatever adjectives they feel. I definitely googled that last night because I have no idea what pansexuality is. Right, and she says she wants young girls, young boys, non-binary,

gay, straight, queer people who are having a hard time dealing with their sexuality, dealing with feeling ostracized Or bullied For just being their unique selves To know that I see you This album is for you Be proud

What is pansexuality? I mean I know what it is But for the people who don't know What is pansexuality? Pansexuality is like Just basically loving anything Everyone Everyone

Just everyone Whether you're Women Man Trans You know Why they just don't call that stir fry? You just put everything in a pan You just Nothing? No Just everyone. Whether you're women, man, trans, you know. Why they just don't call that stir fry?

You just put everything in a pan. You just, nothing? No. So there's no limitations to your sexual choice with biological sex, with gender or gender identity. That's the definition. I think you should call it stir fry. That's fire. No.

We'll do it. We'll call it pansexuality. All right. Now, J. Cole did a Twitter Q&A, and he answered some questions. I'll give you some of the highlights that Vibe Magazine put up. His favorite track on the album is Windowpane, he said. Mine too, actually. And then The Cutoff.

He also talked about the hardest song to finish. He said it was 1985 and ATM, Addicted to Money. He said just to get the drums perfect was stressful. He said the first version of the album was done in two weeks The final version that got released Took six months total

Now Let me see one more thing Oh if he produced anything on the album He said he produced everything except for Kevin's heart I stand by the fact that J. Cole makes TED Talk music And this album is very good As long as you listen to it before 6am

I listen to it when I'm riding to work at 5 a.m. in the morning. Sounds amazing at that time. My goodness. All right. Now, they asked him if you could collab

with anyone dead or alive, who would it be? And he said, Pac, no question. And then he said, and Andre 3000. That means we ain't never getting that Kendrick Lamar album,

huh? That ain't happening? Well, I think it will. You didn't put him on the list? I think it will. Dead or alive. Well, maybe he's already collabed with him though, right? Oh, you're right. Yeah, so that doesn't happening. Well, I think it will. You didn't put him on the list. I think it will. Dead or alive. He's already collabed with him though, right?

Oh, you're right. Yeah, so that doesn't count. Now, Khalees, she went on Hollywood Unlocked and talked about her relationship with Nas and detailed how violent it was. According to Khalees, she was saying they got married at such a young age. She met him when she was only 22 years old

and she said there were really intense highs and really intense lows. And she said his infidelity isn't what really caused her to leave. It wasn't the straw that broke the camel's back. It was also because not only was he cheating, but he also was fighting with her, and she was fighting back. Check it out. Did he hit me? Mm-hmm.

Did I hit him back? Mm-hmm. It was because he would black out. He would drink too much. He drank way too much. Mm-hmm. Did I hit him back? Mm-hmm. It was because he would black out. He would drink too much. He drank way too much. He will never admit it. And so a lot of the stuff he may not remember. You know, there have been times when, like, literally we would have the worst night ever,

like, and we would wake up the next day. It's like it never happened. Was he ever remorseful? He bought gifts. Man, oh, man, between Khaleesi's allegations and Ye and that MAGA hat, y'all really going to be morally conflicted when that Nas album produced by Kanye drops. All right. In addition to that, she talked about how seeing,

why she didn't say anything about what happened with her and Nas. Something reminded me of Rihanna. The only way I can describe it was like double dubs. Like I felt like, do I jump in? Like, do I say it? Cause I had bruises all over my body at that time. Seeing her, the way she looked and then looking at myself, I was embarrassed. For me, it was kind of like, you're going to just let this go. You're not going to say anything. We were married. We weren't dating. I didn't say anything because I wanted things to work and because I was delusional and because I thought that like, I could like love past this. I don't know what because I wanted things to work and because I was delusional and because I thought that I could love past this.

I don't know what's true and what's not true. I just want to know what y'all going to do when that Nas album produced by Kanye West drops. What y'all going to do? Right, it'll be interesting to see how Nas responds to what Khalees has to say. That's true, but y'all want to avoid that question. What y'all going to do when that Nas and Kanye...

I mean, I don't know. We don't know what we don't know. Yeah, I don't know what we don't know. Khalees has told her story, so do in that Nas and Kanye? I mean, I don't know. We don't know what we don't know. Yeah, I don't know what. Two sides of the story. We don't know. Khalees has told her story, so. When the Nas album produced by Kanye drops,

y'all all in? I don't know. We can't answer that. Are you all in? I'm listening. I'm sorry. I'm definitely listening. All right, I'm Angela Yee,

and that is your rumor report. All right, thank you, Miss Yee. Speaking of Kanye, let's do a Kanye mix, all right? This is pre-Sunkin' Place Kanye, all right? 800-585-1051. Let us know what you want to hear. You might as well just call us to make America great again, Mix.

You know good and well. Ain't nobody catching no pre-Sunkin' Place mix. This is. What are you talking about? This is old. This is original Kanye. This is Chi-town broke Kanye. Ain't nobody going to hear that.

All they're going to see is that red MAGA hat in their mind. This is prior to all that. Okay. All right. Ed Revolt, we'll see you on Monday. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning. Had enough of this country?

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