The Breakfast Club - Juvenile Interview

Episode Date: March 13, 2015

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Starting point is 00:02:40 Real people, real celebrities, real talk talk join the breakfast club morning everybody is dj envy angela yee charlamagne the guy we are the breakfast club we got a special guest in the building today juve juvenile what's up sir what it do what it do what's up my brother cooling man cooling now the streets want to know the streets yeah why why did juvie sign back the cash money after the financial problems did you really sign back i did okay okay but after all the financial problems i had back in the day we worked it out we worked it out man they cut the check they cut the check yeah you know we we worked it out man you know it's a matter of law you're sitting at the table and you know lawyers are gonna do their thing and. You know, it's a matter of lawyers sitting at the table and, you know, lawyers are going to do their thing
Starting point is 00:03:25 and we're going to do our thing outside of it. They worked it out. I mean, it's impossible to get over on you twice, though. I mean, you done lived in New York. You know the old saying, right? Yeah. I let you play me two times, shame on me. That's right.
Starting point is 00:03:36 First time, shame on you. Second time, shame on me. Yeah, so nah, nah. It's all good. Okay, so now how does that work out now? Because it seems like they're going through a little turmoil. It seems like it's all over the place. I know that happened kind of like after.
Starting point is 00:03:46 Like right after. I really don't know, yes. I really don't know. Now how does that put you in the situation? Because you're cool with Bird. You're cool with Lil Wayne. Yeah. But they sparring now.
Starting point is 00:03:54 I just stay out of the way, man. You know, just stay out of the way. That's the best thing. That's the best way I see it. What if he asks for your advice? You're not going to be like, just give him his money. Just give him the money. I mean, basically, yeah.
Starting point is 00:04:04 I mean, but you know, it ain't in my position to even give advice you know um i'm gonna stay out of that because it was rocking together tough and tight for some years so right i gotta it gotta be something that can work out how have things changed the label though because it seemed like uh initially back in the day y'all was like it seemed like a family unit yeah now it really just seems like artists signed to a label. Well, we grow older, you know. And me, I'm kind of like the new kid on the block right now. So it's all starting over for me.
Starting point is 00:04:32 You know, I'm more family orientated now. So I do a lot of things with my family. And, you know, whatever time I have outside of that, you know, business also is first. But whatever spare time I have outside of that, I spend it with my family and that's it. I don't do nothing else. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:04:49 Do you still feel like, do you look at Cash Money and all the artists there as your family? Because I'm sure when you were coming up, it was really you that kind of made the label hot, you know, to begin with. I still look at it. And I don't look at it like that, though, either, because, you know, on the outside looking in, it looked like I made the label hot. But the reality was when we went to the studios, we was recording songs and not knowing
Starting point is 00:05:07 who album they was actually going on. So we kind of like, oh, it was kind of a group effort, so I ain't going to take credit for that, but I will take credit for high and back that thing up, stuff like that. So you look at this family, though, or are you now like, okay, this is business? I look at it like a bunch or are you now like, okay, this is business? I look at it like a bunch of a family that now have other responsibilities.
Starting point is 00:05:29 A family that used to be a family that have their own families and responsibilities. Wayne got kids. I got kids. Baby got kids. Slim, I don't even know if Slim got kids at all. I'm not sure. I don't even know. I don't know because I don't. How if Slim got kids at all. I'm not sure. I don't even know.
Starting point is 00:05:45 I don't know because I don't. How come nobody never gets mad at Slim? Is Slim and Birdman on the label? Everybody be mad at Birdman, coming at Birdman, but nobody's ever like, Slim owe me money. Slim move like he sell dope. Slim a good dude. Shut up, man.
Starting point is 00:06:00 Slim a good dude. He kind of like a straight businessman. He don't like the camera, the light, none of that. He try to get things done. Slim a good dude. He kind of like a straight businessman. He don't like the camera, the light, none of that. He try to get things done, you know. Slim a good dude. You keep in contact with BG? Yeah. Well, I mean, not phone-wise, but I keep in contact with his people, so I know what his situation is. Gotcha.
Starting point is 00:06:17 Yeah. And what about Young Buck? You know, since he came home, I know you had a... I haven't seen him. Really? Yeah, I haven't seen him since he came home. I'm glad he home, though. because he was signed to you right well not signed part of the click he was part of the click i didn't have him signed though it was kind of like he was with cash money and then when i started doing my utp thing i took him along with me so he was signed with cash money
Starting point is 00:06:39 he wouldn't sign okay he was never signed but it was it was gonna happen Was you ever mad You didn't sign it And do the paperwork Not really Why not Cause I Like again It was family You know I looked at Buck as family
Starting point is 00:06:51 And I wanted to see him do good And I kinda like Was kinda pulling 50 on him Or taking him in A little bit So it I was kinda hoping He took
Starting point is 00:06:59 You know everybody But you know It didn't work out like that But it was a good thing You wanted to sign 50 was up here He said you had interest In Lloydoyd banks too that's what that's what young buck told him that's that's a whole nother story that ain't true that ain't true that's what the dispute was about to be honest with you yeah what was what was the dispute like he thought i wanted
Starting point is 00:07:19 to sign uh lloyd banks i didn't even have a deal at the time you remember you was around oh so being that he thought'm going to sign him. Oh, so being that he thought you wanted to sign Lloyd, he was like, let me go get one of his guys. Nah, that really wasn't the situation. It was kind of like Buck wanted to be with 50, so Buck went through to ask Buck, you know.
Starting point is 00:07:38 Got you. I don't like to talk about other people. Yeah, other people. It really ain't my thing. I come up here to talk about what I got going on. What you got going on, Juvie jovi no um i got a mixtape coming out called marty draw me skipping me skipping cali got it got an album we working on together let's get with you for a minute yeah we're still running and then outside of that man you know you know we got a whole bunch of music we're doing got a lot of cats from new orleans i'm i'm giving a chance so that's what we got going how you stay relevant in this time we can you know because it's a young kids game yeah and you've been in the game for a
Starting point is 00:08:08 while a long time so how do you can't beat them join them simple as that man don't hate on them you know because i remember when you know our generation was called a young generation and you had all the older cats and you know this from being a dj all the older cats ain't want to see you break records they won't you know things was wasn't going the way you wanted it to go because, you know, they felt like they paved the way for you. Well, I don't look at it like that. I look at it like, man, let's get this money. I see you making that money.
Starting point is 00:08:36 Can I make some of that money with you? That's how I see it. And you came back, you came up in the era when North didn't like the South. They pushed back on the South, but for whatever reason, Cash Money broke through. I didn't say Cash Money. Juvie broke through. Juvie broke through.
Starting point is 00:08:51 Oh, man, what is there not to like about somebody that's being himself, though? You know, I think it's real when somebody being itself and kind of like walking the same, you know, the same walk of life as you. I come from the bottom. I live in the ghetto. I lost everything. You know, everybody go through the same walk of life as you. I come from the bottom. I live in the ghetto. I lost everything. Everybody go through the same thing.
Starting point is 00:09:09 And I think when I came out, everybody kind of felt me more, not because I was from the South, because I was talking the same things that they was going through. And I think that related to everybody. Right. How did you feel when you first heard Jay-Z jump on the high record? I was excited as anybody. Did you hear like we heard it?
Starting point is 00:09:29 I said, not New York, go love me. Straight up. You heard it like we heard it, like on the radio or something? Or did somebody call? Nah, we heard it. I heard it through somebody up here called me and said, man, you know, Jay-Z on the record. Somebody from Universal called me.
Starting point is 00:09:42 Yeah. Like, Jay-Z on the record. Like, what? And, you know, when I found out it was the record. Somebody from Universal called me. Like, Jay-Z on the record. Like, what? And when I found out it was actually going to be a lead. Yeah, that made it a big thing for me. I mean, y'all even came out one time. I think he was doing an album listening session. He was performing.
Starting point is 00:09:56 Yeah, that was a bad night. A lot was going on that night. Talk to us about that night. That's the big un-night. Yeah, yeah. Oh, that's when Jay stabbed her. Wait, come on. Don't say that. Statue of limitations up on that night. That's the big un night. Yeah, yeah, oh yeah, yeah, that was when he stabbed Un. Oh, that's when Jay stabbed Un. Wait, come on. Don't say that.
Starting point is 00:10:07 Statue of limitations up on that, man. He got locked up. He went to court and everything for that. Don't say he stabbed Un. He said it in a couple rap records. Yeah, yeah. It was a lot of things going on that night. That was a bad night, yeah, but I was up here chilling with Jay that night.
Starting point is 00:10:22 Now, y'all even performed at the Tunnel. Yeah. How was the reception for that? I was scared as hell. Why were you scared? Because, you know, from watching the Tunnel and seeing the Tunnel on TV, you know, down bottom, cats who like rap, we was watching BET, MTV, and we seen the Tunnel a lot. We knew about the Tunnel from magazines and everything.
Starting point is 00:10:41 We knew what Crush Groove, one of the movies, one of the movies it was in and you know it it was a club that i pretty much was scattered because i heard everybody went there got booed even new york artists i'm like what it's like man i'm telling you then when i got up here that weekend they was making it worse because they kept telling me the same thing like say man you go home what song you're singing i said i'm um saying i'm gonna sing a bunch of songs so you say man you better sing huh and that's what i think i wind up doing i think i sung how all night i don't think i even i don't even remember singing another song i think i sung high like three or four times and that was it how was the reception it was on it
Starting point is 00:11:21 they went crazy that was good they went crazy we had our shirts off and they're sweating yeah that's one of my wildest shows in new york pretty was the wildest now coming out of the projects in new orleans did you ever think you would sell five million records man man coming out the projects i didn't think i was gonna sell new records period i stayed and i was i lived in the project but I stayed a right right across the street from the music store so whatever star came to the minority spot I seen right nice to always saying man I could rap I could rap I saw Eric being right Kim when I was a kid like man I can rap and daughter I stay right across the street like yeah little man you know so I think it was nobody who
Starting point is 00:12:02 else did you see when you was growing up like that, besides Ari B and Rakam, who else came through that? Scarface. Scarface. Scarface, yeah. Man, I couldn't speak. Cause you know, I'm steady, I'm like, damn, I didn't even know how to look, to be honest. Until they pointed and said,
Starting point is 00:12:16 man, I wanted a little competition to be on a radio station, I forgot what it was. And they was performing and they introduced me to them. I was excited, I couldn't even get the words out of my mouth. Wow. I got to go to New Orleans this weekend, actually. Yeah? They're closing the Calio project. Yeah, they're building a new Calio project.
Starting point is 00:12:33 Yeah, they're building new ones. I'll be there for that. That's with Vaughn. So what are they doing? They tearing them down? I might be out there. They tearing them down? They done pretty much tore a lot of it down, but they're going to really blow it up, I think, this week. Yeah, I think they're closing it on Saturday. They're doing a whole block party, closing them down they didn't pretty much told a lot of it down but they gonna really blow it up I think this yeah I think the closing is on Saturday they're doing a whole block party closing them down and they build a new one Wow what's Magnolia like now new nice you wouldn't know it if you saw it
Starting point is 00:12:57 nothing like the video they got a lot of them in but they did this look this is not just going on and I will they did the same thing they did to every city everywhere and and believe me the same thing that happened i think they did it here right yeah the same thing and it's out with the old and with the new you know people get to keep that some of us get to come back right you know that's and that's everywhere some of them get to come back not everybody i. I don't know if they're handpicking or what, but it's not everybody coming back. When did all that happen?
Starting point is 00:13:30 Did that happen, like, after Katrina? Like, actually, right now, they got white people living in the Magnolia. Really? That never happened. In Magnolia? Yeah, that never happened. That's, like, best time in Brooklyn right now.
Starting point is 00:13:38 Yeah. Did that happen after Katrina? After Katrina. All this after Katrina. Damn. Well, they started moving people out before Katrina. I think they planned it before Katrina, always after Katrina. Damn. Well, they started moving people out before Katrina. I think they planned it before Katrina, but they actually went along with it when Katrina hit.
Starting point is 00:13:51 You still think Katrina was a conspiracy? I mean, of course it's Mother Nature. I do. I really do, man. You know, I said that before when I came here. And if you don't believe me, I think Hurricane Betsy, that was in 1954, same thing happened got a someone right right that I had happened twice
Starting point is 00:14:12 yes your son is rapping yeah now explain that how does that feel have you your son rapping Oh 22 okay school is in school um crazy something he kept away from me, to be honest with you. How did you find out he was rapping? One day he just walked in the room and started rapping. Just like that. What did you say to him?
Starting point is 00:14:33 He said, boys, you high? I said, man, when you started, I thought that was somebody's song. I said, whose song that is? He said, it's mine. I said, how you playing? You thought it was nice? Say something else. Then he started kicking different stuff.
Starting point is 00:14:47 And I was like, man, you really can rap. Surprise. You signed him right away. I pretty much started something up for him to do his own thing. Right. I really want you to move that from in front of him. Because I see you looking at some weird things on this table. Oh, my shiny honey.
Starting point is 00:15:04 I ain't got nothing to do with that. Whitening cream. There's whitening cream for your anus. Don't even ask why I did it. I'm not about to ask that. Now is rap still your primary source of income? I mean we got other things. You know, legal things too.
Starting point is 00:15:20 He said legal things. Of course. You know I got other things I'm venturing off into. I've always been somebody who do other things. Got you. Because you said, you know, you're more family oriented now. So rap is like to the back burner a little bit. Well, not really.
Starting point is 00:15:35 Because everything that I do comes off of rap. So not necessarily. And I'm always performing. So, you know, to me, my being away for a minute is it was a good thing for me because now i know what i need to do when you talk to your son what do you tell him about things that you learned when you were coming up in some of the pitfalls and things to avoid because i'm sure you have to give him some advice about this music business i know i we know with him there's a lot of things that i always tell him i i said well i don't want to be the person to not tell you and
Starting point is 00:16:04 you know you do you you have something that come along and you're like, damn, my daddy could have told me that. But I tell him a lot that self-experience is the best experience. But try to make your self-experience his good experience, you know, and try to be wise. Because I can't be out there to hold his hand every day. Right. You know, and man, life could be so cruel on you when you're not raised right and you weren't taught right. So my whole thing with him is I just want him to be his own man
Starting point is 00:16:30 and have his own experience. You gave him a fair contract? No, he don't have a contract. Okay. He got his own thing. Have you adjusted to the rap game now? I'm sure things have changed a lot. I mean, as long as they rapping and rhyming, I think I'm good. Just like Jay-Z. Like, man, as long as they rhyming, I'm it. I'm sure things have changed a lot. I mean long as they rapping and rhyming out. I think I think I'm
Starting point is 00:16:45 Good, just like Jay-z like long as they rhyming. I'm good rhyming in time Not the best Between was car burning in Virginia. I ain't every day with that, man. I'm still learning. Every time I come up here, somebody hit me with like, man, why you don't? I'm like, man, I don't know, man.
Starting point is 00:17:16 Do you think it's important for you? I think it is important. I'm telling you, I'm trying to catch up. I'm not good at it. I really do think it's important. What that back that ass crowd up look like when you perform that song now? Is it like older people, mamas? It's mamas. It's mamas, it's youngsters who say that's my mama song.
Starting point is 00:17:32 I get a lot of that. I get a lot of that. And it's a lot of women that used to be, you know, have nice shapes ten years ago. Still trying to back that ass up. But you know, I don't want to talk about my fans though, because they still hold me down. Y'all come to my show, and I love y'all. You ever see any of the old video chicks you had in Back That Ass Up videos?
Starting point is 00:17:50 I saw one of them, one of them. And she actually, she was real skinny, so she actually looked good, even better now. What's her name, Mo? You know her name. Mo, man. I can't think of her name. Mo, I can't even think of her name.
Starting point is 00:18:04 Mo. But she was one of them. But, man, I can't think of her name. Mo, I can't even think of her name. Mo. But she was one of them. But, man, I probably walked past them and don't know them. Do you think that song would have the life it's had? No. I mean, you never know until it happens. It's still a big song. I mean, it still do its thing.
Starting point is 00:18:17 I mean, I just did the Zulu Ball, man. It was funny. What is it? What's the Zulu Ball? The Zulu Ball is like one of the biggest black events in New Orleans during the Mardi Gras time. They have their own parade. It's an organization, too. Man, when I tell you it was 20,000 people in there, like 20,000 people in the convention center, black people cutting up.
Starting point is 00:18:40 Wow. Dressed nice, too. It's a ball. It was a nice event. I even saw Seattle safety was there. Richard Sherman. Yeah, Richard Sherman. Not Richard Sherman.
Starting point is 00:18:51 Not the safety. Who the safety? What his name? Earl Thomas. Okay. Yeah, he was there. Now, was it ever really a beef between no limit and cash money back in the day? Man, it was a friction.
Starting point is 00:19:02 I can't lie and say it was a friction, but a beef, nah. Not a beef. You know what? Beef, it was a friction. I can't lie and say it was a friction, but a beef, nah. Not a beef. You know what I mean? Beef a strong word with me. Beef means somebody getting shot and, you know, and fights happening. We never,
Starting point is 00:19:13 that never happened between us. It was like an ego thing? Yeah. I think it was. I think it was who want to run New Orleans. Gotcha. You know?
Starting point is 00:19:21 Mystical was doing his thing. We was doing, you know, I was doing my thing. Mystical wanted to be the best rapper. I wanted to be the best rapper. Wayne wanted to be, everybody wanted to be, you know mystical was doing this thing we was doing you know i was doing my thing mystical wanted to be the best rapper i wanted to be the best rapper wayne wanted to be everybody wanted to be you know i wanted to be that castle it is with it but the funny part if you came to new orleans during the time you went to the club and you saw us out in the club you wouldn't think you you wouldn't think we was beefing no kind of way yeah because we drinking and smoking and doing
Starting point is 00:19:44 everything together. I always wonder why it wasn't more collaborations. Oh, it wasn't going to be no collaborations. No, no collaborations. I'm not going to help you. What's up, dog? How you doing? And that's the furthest it's going.
Starting point is 00:19:55 There's going to be no collaborations. Not at that time. But now, no problem. No problem. We all cool. Collaborations now would be okay. Time heals all. They always say that.
Starting point is 00:20:04 I mean, I'm back with cash Money, so time does heal all. But, like, would you do something with Master P? I ain't do nothing with Master P yet. But you would. Before C-Murder, matter of fact, the mic I got in my studio is C-Murder's. Before C-Murder went, you know, did his bed, we was hanging and, you know, talking about a lot, so we got cool. So, you know, I seen P.
Starting point is 00:20:24 Last time I actually had a conversation with master p was katrina in new york so i don't see him that was years ago yeah yeah did you um i forgot what i was about to ask you just now i haven't slipped my mind just that fast man i am you ain't crazy you know no not yet unless you got one of them kits like my homie told me. No, I ain't doing that. You know why? I got a couple. I got a couple.
Starting point is 00:20:48 If you're on your way, you're trying to be young. You said you were on your way. Why you ain't down yours yet? Because I want people to know that I'm not young. I mean, I make 40 this month. Got you. You know, so it's cool. It goes with it.
Starting point is 00:21:01 It's wisdom. There you go. Well, that's what I wanted to ask you. With Cash Money, Money, did you consult anybody before you wanted to go back there? Nah. Of course, my wife and my family. That's with any decision.
Starting point is 00:21:14 A decision like this is kind of like sports. It's a life decision. Do I want to put my family through me traveling and going through this and do all that? Of course. They they ready for it. You know, they older. My family older now. And it was a decision really more not for them, but me.
Starting point is 00:21:33 You know, what I want to do right now in life. Man, you about to hit 40. You want to do a little more music and retire? You know, what's your decision? I still got it there. So until I get it out of my system, I'm going to keep making music. And why not stay indie, though? Because you got a catalog. You're on the show. You can
Starting point is 00:21:49 go on the road, do a bunch of shows. I feel, I mean, it's not just that. I just wanted to be back where I started from. Gotcha. Kind of like the Kevin Garnett move. Retiring. I mean, I am going to retire at Cash Money. No doubt in that. But I don't plan on doing nothing else after this but, you know, relaxing and enjoying my life.
Starting point is 00:22:07 Whose idea was it? Did you go to them or did who came to you? Man, we had been, it was kind of like a together thing because we had been backwards and forwards for a couple years trying to, you know, it was really a group effort. Right. You know, and a little bit of universal too. Did you have to sit down and go over, like,
Starting point is 00:22:24 some of the things that you said previously and be like, you know, maybe I shouldn't have said that? Of course, but time heals all. We talk about things that I don't even feel that way no more. Because sometimes people don't even ever bring it up and they just forget about it.
Starting point is 00:22:38 Because the whole was harsh. That record was harsh. Yeah, it was harsh. And the record came out because I was mad, but when you feel like your family and y'all brothers and da-da-da-da-da and something don't go right, you'd be more hurt than anything. So a lot of things I said was more of a hurt than a mad about. I wasn't as mad about the money as people thought.
Starting point is 00:23:04 I was more mad about, you know, damn, man, my family. Man, I thought it was, you know, it was more that than anything. We appreciate you joining us, man. Man, it's all love. And the new mixtape comes out when? March 26th, on my birthday.
Starting point is 00:23:17 On your birthday. Mardi Gras Part 2. You're going to change the name at 40 from Juvenile? Maybe, I don't know. Nah, it's going to be Big Ju. Big Ju. Big Ju. Yeah, Big Ju from Juvenile? Maybe, I don't know. Nah, it's gonna be Big Ju, Big Juvenile. Yeah, Big Ju,
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