The Breakfast Club - Kanye West Interview

Episode Date: February 20, 2015

Kanye West returns to The Breakfast Club to discuss his new music, Beck at the Grammys, fashion, Ambe Rose, Kim Kardashian, working with Drake, Tyga's relationship with Kylie Jenner and much more. Le...arn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:02:41 Real people, real celebrities, real talk talk join the breakfast club morning everybody it's dj mv angela yee charlamagne the guy we are the breakfast club special guest here this morning he's back he's back kanye west what's up i didn't think it was gonna happen i i bet i said kanye's not gonna come back up here after it was a wrap no i'm deaf i'm coming back every time, let me start with some positivity, man. I think Only One involves the dope records. Oh, wow. Thank you. I think they're really dope tunes. Wow, this is starting way different than the last one.
Starting point is 00:03:15 But, but, I don't like 4-5 seconds and that's why did you do that? Wow. I do like 4-5 seconds, though. We love that song. I don't like the autotune when you sing, but I like four or five seconds. I don't like autotune either, but I need it. Really?
Starting point is 00:03:30 Why? I mean, I hear people say that. Why, though? Because I can bend my voice in other ways, like at the end of Runaway and everything. I like to do that. Got you. Yeah. Absolutely.
Starting point is 00:03:41 And thank you for inviting me to the fashion show as well. Oh, yeah. We thought it was a setup, and he was going to walk in. He definitely thought it was a setup. He said he's going to get beat up in there. He's going to get jumped. But no, I wasn't. I felt like it was only right.
Starting point is 00:03:52 You came here. You know what I'm saying? He threw all the slander. So why wouldn't I come to the fashion show? Yeah. Yeah. But you put him next to Drake, which was kind of awkward. He didn't put me next to Drake.
Starting point is 00:04:01 Oh, they put you next to Drake. I went to stand in the back and Drake happened to be back there. That's kind of awkward. He didn't put me next to Drake. Oh, they put you next to Drake. I went to stand in the back and Drake happened to be back there. That's kind of awkward. Now let's talk about first your shoes that just released. Yeezy Boos. Yeah, I heard y'all don't like those. No, not y'all.
Starting point is 00:04:14 I said that I actually have a pair of shoes that look like similar to them and I like them. That's not a good thing when a girl has shoes that look like men's shoes. But I like the black colorway. The gray colorway when I first saw them
Starting point is 00:04:24 they looked like a paper mache project. But the black ones look tough. Yeah, we're coming with the black colorway. The gray colorway, when I first saw them, they looked like a paper mache project. But the black ones look tough. Yeah, we're coming with the black ones real soon. But that is a big accomplishment for you. You put that out. Limited run first, right? Sold out. And now people are buying them online for over $1,500.
Starting point is 00:04:37 $1,500 for them? Yeah. See, I didn't want them to be limited, actually. That's something that the company did. I really want as many people to get them as possible. I don't want the to be limited, actually. That's something that the company did. I really want as many people to get them as possible. You know, I really, I don't want the price to be $350. I don't want to play this, like, sneaker culture game and all this where they be reselling them for high prices and stuff.
Starting point is 00:04:54 I just want people to just have what I made. Like, ain't no limited release of the college dropout, you know, a limited release of graduation, you know. And I think in clothing right now, it's a real separatism, you know. Like, it's $5,000 sweatshirts, you know and i think in clothing right now it's a real it's a real separatism you know like it's five thousand dollar sweatshirts you know everybody's spending that money to try to show up in the club and act like they you know i'm saying like it's like we need to spend that money on our families and stuff we need so my my point of what i'm doing in clothing right now is i'm going and taking the talent like i just came from the ralph show and i was talking to ralph and i was like man i, I need your help because you know how to make
Starting point is 00:05:25 clothes and I know I think I know what my generation wants but it's very difficult if you don't have that production and that experience like what Ralph has and it's really difficult to get those price points like the Zara and H&M price points if you
Starting point is 00:05:42 don't got the factories, if you don't got the boats and stuff. I mean, I talked about this why is it 350 because it's hard to i i have no idea they just priced it that i think that they just you know what i think their logic was they didn't want it to go from uh the other company and go to adidas and they'd be like man why they drop the price yeah because sometimes the public won't always understand the transition you know like steve jobs always had the ipad in his head but he won't always understand the transition. You know, like Steve Jobs always had the iPad in his head, but he couldn't do it coming from a keyboard and a floppy disk to the iPad. You know, you had to walk people into this.
Starting point is 00:06:13 I thought the whole idea with you going to Adidas is you had more control and it was your issue. Yeah, over price points and stuff like that. And you could do everything. Yeah, I do have a lot more. At least I could do something. You know, but any relationship that starts off, you ain't going to have all the control. Right.
Starting point is 00:06:27 You know what I'm saying? It's a marriage. Usually the first year of any situation is the toughest. And then when you guys start to communicate, it could be powerful. Now explain the sneaker a little bit because I'm a sneakerhead. I have tons of sneakers. And I assumed it to be like, I don't like to compare, but the other sneakers that you released, they were leather, they were more of a sneaker, sneaker. Like, you could ball out in the other sneakers.
Starting point is 00:06:51 This one, I don't think I could play basketball. You actually could play basketball in this one better than the other ones. Yeah, because first of all, it's got Boost, which is the best technology. And I'm not just saying that contractually with Adidas. I'm saying that for someone who goes to the gym. And if I wear, like, my, you know, boots, actually I feel better because I have problems with the back of my Achilles from performing so much. And it actually— No, I did say fat girls with cankles look like it'd be comfortable for them. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:07:16 I mean, I'm working on it. People joke that they look sort of like the Uggs, right? But what's so bugged out is I'm really working on trying to make a sexier Ugg. Because you see Uggs all the time. They are comfortable. And I see, you know, I see stuff from the future
Starting point is 00:07:31 and I'm always like, I'm such a futurist that I have to slow down and talk in the present. You know, and this was a proposition to where I think shoes will go.
Starting point is 00:07:41 I think the color palettes, all this, the red over here and the 30 different colors way and the Black History Month version and all that, I think that's going. I think the color palettes, all this, the red over here and the 30 different colors away and the Black History Month version and all that, I think that's going to be out of there in the future. This is for me as, you know, humbly I would say I'm the most influential person in footwear right now.
Starting point is 00:07:56 There's no way to humbly say that. Well, I say truthfully. Okay. I'm the most influential person in footwear. Oh, with George? Now, well, those are re-releases, but when it comes to new sneakers, I think he is. Absolutely. Now, how hard is it to get that balance between wanting to get something that people can afford,
Starting point is 00:08:13 but then also wanting to use those materials and make things really special, you know, things that make you more creative? Yeah, those materials is all a game that the factories play, too. You know, if silk is in style, silk is more expensive from factories you know it you know you can get everything for a better price it's all in like how you you know how you negotiate uh with the factories and uh you know my end goal 10 years from now will be to have everything at a Zara level like I think Steve made it where phones wasn't a show of class anymore you know you, you had the Virtu phone, you bust a $4,000 phone, you felt like you was better than somebody.
Starting point is 00:08:49 I don't understand this rich talk at all. Yeah, you know. I thought you were talking about night phone positives when you said phones. Yeah, with the phone, I'm talking about the Virtu phone. Oh, phone. Yeah, I'm not that clear a speaker. You know, I had this car accident and everything, and ever since then I've been like a mumble mouth.
Starting point is 00:09:06 But what I'm saying is right now people try to put on a jacket to try to act like they're better than you. And I think this idea of being better than the next man is just the wrong mentality in the first place. We were born into a broken world that's been separated by race, religion
Starting point is 00:09:22 and class. But you confuse me when you say stuff like that, though, because you do act like you're better than people sometimes. No. Like, the Grammys is a great example. When you get up and you tell everybody to respect the artistry, but it's like you're not respecting the art. Yeah, and I deserved it, man.
Starting point is 00:09:39 That was completely hypocritical. And, you know, I was the other, I'm going to go ahead, you know, tell y'all, like, the other day, day like I went to dinner and sat down with Taylor Swift right and ironically they were like playing the Beck album and I and ironically or you think they did that on purpose? No maybe they did it on purpose so I could finally hear about this I was like man so you hadn't even heard it when you did the Grammy rant? I was like man this is like kind of good I ain't even gonna lie. You hadn't even heard the Beck album when you did the ring.
Starting point is 00:10:09 Nah, I hadn't even heard it, man. You do that all the time. Sean, you do that all the time. You say somebody's whack without hearing the album. No, that's not true. What did I say? I said, I can't even say if Beck didn't deserve it because I didn't hear it.
Starting point is 00:10:20 And that was an argument that we had because I would say, well, Kanye might not even know. A lot of people had never heard Beck. And I said, I never heard it. But people were saying, no, I'm sure he heard it. He had to have heard it. And that was an argument that we had because I was like, well, Kanye might not even know. A lot of people didn't had never heard Beck. And I said, I never heard it. So but people were saying, no, I'm sure he heard it. He had to have heard it to say that. You know what? I bet you that album is really good. I'm going to listen to the album and maybe it was potentially an album of the year. But the Grammys are still they have a commercial component to it and they want to sell commercials, you know, so they have, you they have these big superstars sitting in the audience and advertise that they upcoming next, performing,
Starting point is 00:10:50 that's what they're trying to do to get those views. You don't have these people sitting here and then have them, like, their hearts beating and stuff. We work too hard to deal with all that. We ain't got no time to be, like, losing in a situation. Because who's winning? We ain't getting none of that advertising money. Don't play with us.
Starting point is 00:11:08 That's what my main point is. Why do these big superstars go where they're tolerated? People like yourself, you go where you're tolerated but not celebrated. When it comes to the Soul Train Awards or BET Hip Hop Awards or BET Awards, you hear Kanye won but Kanye's not here to accept this award on the mat. That's why we need to support the people that support us and that's just particularly
Starting point is 00:11:24 just a black thing. We always say it's black show, to support the people that support us. And that just particularly just a black thing. We always say, you know, it's black show, this, this, that. But, you know, it just needs to be, you know, it's going to be a while. It's going to be a while. I ain't got the answers of how to change the voting system. I ain't got the answers to, you know, how to make it where everyone is honored in the proper way. And sometimes maybe it's two people that should win. Who's to say who should win?
Starting point is 00:11:46 But I think it'd be a class thing too because it carries more weight if you win a Grammy than if you win a BET award. So we still go. Says who though? Society. Says society. And that's what this is about.
Starting point is 00:12:01 This is why I respect this show because this is a voice of society. This is the of i say the barbershop but this is the voice of the streets and this is uh you know uh grammys is uh uh it's a statement of class and stuff like you go to my house i'm i'm gonna hit the stunt mutton for a second you see my 21 grammys laid out that you know my wife forced me to take out of the bathroom and put in one place. That's why it's interesting to hear you, you know, get after Grammys because you could be selfish and say, well, I got 21, so whatever. Yeah, I mean, and I think I deserve more, but I, you know, it's all, like I said, we was born into a world of separated by a class, uh,
Starting point is 00:12:46 and, uh, race and religion. So class is one of the things that people want. You want to be upper class. You want to be first class, but in a plane crash, everybody did.
Starting point is 00:12:55 Right. It ain't no class. Then it's just a whole crash. Uh, you know, some of the things that I first came up with the idea of Donda and I was tweeting out all these ideas, airplane design,
Starting point is 00:13:05 this design, this design. Like, you know, you see, of course, like me and, you know, uh, Kim, we can, we can take private, but you know, we really, you know, we, we want to, we want to be in the airport. We want to be next to the people. get inspiration when i when i see what people are wearing i see i get inspiration when i see what people are going through when people like walking a line slower getting patted down or whatever that's you know i gotta tell you this one uh story about class i was going to london where i'm going tonight um and i was in the first class line and it was real crowded and i looked over at the coach line for customs and it's completely empty we went over to the coach line and got through right away and it was real crowded and I looked over at the coach line for customs and it's completely empty we went over to the coach line and got through right away and everybody was sitting
Starting point is 00:13:49 there with their Hermes belts and their big hats they didn't want to lower their class in order to like get through faster when time is the only luxury right you know what I'm saying so it's a lot of stuff that I've been learning over the past couple years and I and I use my money and my position and my relationships to learn about class, but my approach, I think, is a bit more Robin Hood now. It's more ghetto. Even though you're getting up in class,
Starting point is 00:14:14 it's still ratchet. Yeah, I guess. I mean, ghetto was fun. I mean, I like I'm from Chicago. My wife got a big ass. You know what I'm saying? I'm stay ghetto. Did you reach out to Beck after though? Did you reach out to Beck after you heard this?
Starting point is 00:14:28 I'm like, maybe I slipped up a little bit. Or maybe I went too far. Yes, I got his number and I was supposed to call, but I just keep forgetting. What? You did not forget. You just don't know what to say. Don't feel bad because we didn't know. I thought Beck was a bitch until you jumped on him.
Starting point is 00:14:41 He was very humble about it though because he agreed. He was like, yeah, I mean, it's Beyonce you should have won. It wasn't like he disagreed with you. But I felt bad for him. No, I felt good for him because think of all the good stuff that happened to me, you know, the past, you know, seven days, eight days. The person that won the most was Beck because if I hadn't done that, his album of the year would have never been mentioned.
Starting point is 00:15:02 Now it's in all the chatter. Kanye West messes up again. Kanye West is donkey of the day. You know, I'm already the enemy, so you can't get no worse than the villain. It has to be hard to win an award and then have all these people saying you shouldn't have won and the beehive going in and leaving negative, nasty comments and saying how terrible he is. Well, it's all subjective, though. Yeah, it is all subjective.
Starting point is 00:15:21 But, you know, he should win an award for what he did, rock album or something like that, but he shouldn't have won that award, in my opinion. But who am I to have an opinion? You're Kanye West. Exactly. If you don't respect it, then it's not to be respected. But listen, one thing we always ask in the barbershop,
Starting point is 00:15:38 why is Kanye always caping for Beyonce? I love Beyonce. I'm a Pinkett Smith, Winfrey Knows Carter, but it seems like you're always coming to her aid. And Beyonce don't need no caping. She for Beyonce. I love Beyonce. I'm a Pinkett Smith, Winfrey knows Carter, but it seems like you're always coming to her aid. And Beyonce don't need no caping. She's Beyonce. I know.
Starting point is 00:15:50 You know, it's really ironic that every time it's Beyonce for some reason. It's like, why is it Beyonce? Why don't I go off on like, you know,
Starting point is 00:16:02 whoever going off on my wife on Twitter and shit like that. You know, why do I cater? You know, you know, whoever going off on my wife on Twitter and shit like that. You know, why do I cater? You know, I think Beyonce is a great representation of an artist working hard and trying her best and getting the results from it. You know, so say Beyonce's previous album wasn't as well received as this new album. And she got low, like I got low on my new album, and delivered something that everybody loved and if you in america if we want we have to we have to respect
Starting point is 00:16:30 greatness when we see it and we can't smack it in the face at the at the cost of some votes splitting at the cost of like blowing somebody up that could sell some t-shirts if you see something that's great you got to respect it i remember i was trying to get on the basketball team maith grade i hit every free throw hit every layup and i looked at the I was trying to get on the basketball team in eighth grade. I hit every free throw, hit every layup and I looked at the list and I wasn't on the list and then the coach
Starting point is 00:16:48 just gave me the Kanye shrug. Now, you know the basketball team is down in school. You know, that's like the best thing because you get to leave school. You're not having to get all the chicks.
Starting point is 00:17:01 Yeah, you're on the basketball team. We had a small gym where you were running to the Broadway stage. You hit a layup and stuff like that. So hurt people hurt people. Somebody told you, Connie, I'm going to let you finish, but you're not going to make this basketball team.
Starting point is 00:17:15 No, my point is you're not going to have somebody hit all the shots and you're not giving them that credit. And I think a lot of times, Beyonce, exactly what you said. You said Beyonce don't need no help. People look at Beyonce because she's rich, respect the ho, she's a beautiful woman. She's talented. And so they figure she's got everything, so you don't even need nothing else. But I think she needs the proper accolades because she's an inspiration.
Starting point is 00:17:43 She's got 20 Grammys. 21? 20? Not Album of the Year, I guess. I thought she did win that one when she won that five-day year. I don't think she's ever won an Album of the Year Grammy. Okay. And I don't know.
Starting point is 00:17:55 And this is funny because Taylor was talking to me about this. She was saying that, you know, when she was the victim, she won every award. And now that she's powerful and the biggest-selling artist, now she's not winning awards biggest selling artist now she's not winning awards anymore because they like what do you need it's once again it's that moment where the rich people are line is getting clogged up because it's a practical joke that everybody in the airport you know are playing on rich people as they should because us as rich people our focus shouldn't be on how we get a new phantom how we get a bigger house our focus
Starting point is 00:18:25 should be on how do we help the middle to the lower class to have a better life and i think that we get distracted with you know luxury so-called luxury goods so-called luxury cars like and i embrace this anytime a rich person gets the piss taken out of them it's cool you know i mean i mean don't don't do it to me all the time and stuff. But you know, that's how we always talked about you because you always used to speak up. Like when you said George Bush don't care about black people, you were speaking up for the have-nots. But now it seems like you were just fighting
Starting point is 00:18:51 for the civil rights of rich people lately. Civil rights of rich people. Yeah, I think it's the rights of everyone. You know, and another thing that I used to get really caught up on was with race. You know, with race, it what race is like okay we know we we know it's racist people you know we know that a lot of white men over the age of 60 are racist we embrace that you know we know that a lot of people that are in power you know don't really you know they like they're like donald sterling we we understand that we know that but the world, you know, 10 years from now, 20 years from now, every every, you know, person of color or female or any minority that comes into power will eventually shift it.
Starting point is 00:19:35 You know, you got the ozone later. You got all this stuff you see a hundred years from now, the entire world might be black just to even survive on Earth, period. Right now, you mentioned, you know, you stood up for Beyonce. People for Beyonce people ask you know you stand up for Beyonce you stand up for more than might be you stand up for your own wife recently people been going at your wife crazy from the paper magazine cover they was like well why would she do that she has money is it just for uh fame is it just for Instagram is it just for attention you know even Amber Rose came on the program a couple of days ago and she was fake said your wife was fake how do you reply to all these people and what do you say to everybody because even with us when we seen on the cover it was kind of like you know kim is filthy you know she has a child she has a family why would she do that cover which which question
Starting point is 00:20:17 okay let's do the cover first uh well um one of the things of breaking class is respected art can break class so one of the things that shut up a lot of people is the fact that john paul goo took the photograph that used to shoot grace jones right and grace jones figure physique was as as new and different as Kim's physique was. And our position of power, we're not going to accept the physique that was given to us, that was told to us was the proper way to look. My daughter has a chance of being shaped like my wife. So until she, between this age and to the age where she's like that i'm going to be fighting for that shape to be considered the highest of class or not the highest of class at
Starting point is 00:21:12 least equal to what someone looks at like a skinny a skinny model for uh my first introduction one of my first introductions to to beauty was the helman newton book this really big book and every woman in it was naked this is a straight photographer he did he did Playboy and he'll do st. Laurent ads and the highest level tastes and I was really drawn to the beauty of the of the way their photographs are set up and to the fact that I was attracted to the women also. I liked the two things at once. I like the physical attraction, and I like the way the shot was set up. I think that with my wife, you know, it had been a lot of times earlier in her career
Starting point is 00:21:57 where, you know, she didn't have the access to that level of photographer. Of course, he's passed away now. So now that she has the access to John Paul Cool, to Stephen Klein, to Merton Marcus, I can name all the really high-level, Jackie Nickerson, all the high-level photographers now, you know, it's important for her to stand, I think, for her to stand up, you know,
Starting point is 00:22:18 in all of her glory and all her power. I mean, her power is in her body, is in her nudity. Her power is in her mind. Her power is in her family. But body is one of. Her power is in her mind. Her power is in her family. But body is one of the powers. What happens when she gets older, though? Well, she's going to always have that body, but she's going to have mind, family,
Starting point is 00:22:34 and she's going to create a legacy. You name all those brands and stuff, but the hood don't know that. So the hood is like, Kanye, just tell your wife she don't got to get naked no more. But she could get naked if she wants to. It's not illegal to get naked. And you know,
Starting point is 00:22:50 and then you think about this, like if Adam had never ate the apple, we all be naked. So you hit us with that last time. I still haven't, have not understood that one. But let me ask you this. I've been trying to figure that one out for two years.
Starting point is 00:23:01 Do you feel compelled to, um, to reach out to Amber Rose, being that that's your ex-girlfriend, and saying, listen, just calm it down, leave my wife alone, and just chill out? She's just soaking in the moment. Nobody feel compelled to do nothing.
Starting point is 00:23:15 If Kim had dated me when I first wanted to be with her, it wouldn't be Amber Rose. You know what I'm saying? So it's your fault, Kim. It's your fault. I commented at you before. you know I'm saying like you naked pictures while y'all together though I wish I would I would have gladly happily have liked to she you know she she she didn't why why because by the way it's like it's very hard for a woman to you know want to you know want want to, you know, want to be with someone that's with Amber Rose.
Starting point is 00:23:47 So she wasn't sending nothing. You know what I'm saying? Like I had to, I had to take 30 showers before I got with Kim, you know what I'm saying? I'm sorry. Please wait. No,
Starting point is 00:23:59 don't ask me no more. I just want to be respectful, man. I saw you say I was watching something on TV just now and they were saying that you said fashion lines didn't want to deal with you because you was married to a reality show star.
Starting point is 00:24:14 Just on a business level. Personally, we can tell you're happy. Just on a business level, do you feel the Kardashian brand has hurt Kanye West's brand? No, it's helped. Because it just showed my ability to bring most staff into the studio with Jay-Z my ability to bridge the gap to bridge uh you know somebody
Starting point is 00:24:38 sitting over this lunch table they're the fashion world y'all be cool and stuff somebody sitting over this lunch table they're a celebrity and they have a perception about that and I showed people the power of what happens when you work together and now Kim can sell
Starting point is 00:24:54 a dress faster than any magazine cover and you got her on the cover of Vogue which is something that we never thought was going to happen the way that Anna Wintour felt
Starting point is 00:25:03 and how she had expressed that in the past. What did she say? She said something today, right? Or earlier today? Oh, about bringing Northwest to the fashion shows. That was alleged, though. They said allegedly she was saying that's not the proper place for a child.
Starting point is 00:25:16 Yeah, I can't speak on alleged comments. Does it bother you when you see the news and they're like, Northwest was crying at a fashion show? I mean, she's a baby. That's what babies do. And she's at her daddy's fashion show, which makes sense. I mean, I would think you would want your daughter front row at your fashion show.
Starting point is 00:25:31 Yeah, yeah. I mean, think about it. No one can tell me where to have my child in that, you know. I got four of them. They cry. No, you can't tell them when to cry, when not to cry. They're going to cry. Dame Dash at the BET Awards, BET Honors.
Starting point is 00:25:43 Why did you let him present you with that award because he presented me to the world you know I wouldn't have a record deal if it wasn't for Dame Dash
Starting point is 00:25:50 how was that first conversation because at one time he hated you I ain't gonna say he hated you I don't think he hated you
Starting point is 00:25:55 he felt you weren't loyal to him right and I wasn't and this was an extremely visionary move
Starting point is 00:26:01 on my part to move to roll with jay-z did you tell dame that i mean if he's the one that believed in you then why does hove get the credit in the big brother records uh yeah i mean i mentioned dame a lot of raps but you know the the story is not done you know sometimes it's been moments where like i was wilding out you know and jay would be like okay yeah you just gotta sit this down right now sit these couple plays
Starting point is 00:26:28 out and you know it was the moment when you know Rockefeller split it made more sense for me career wise to roll with Jay even though Dame had supported me
Starting point is 00:26:43 and then I wonder I say where would we be I know Dame had supported me. Yeah, supported me. And then I wonder, I say, where would we be, you know, if I had a role with Dame? Would we have been, would I have been more successful? Would I have been less successful? You know, I can't say. But at that time, you know, I came to Rockefeller because Jay-Z was my idol. Right. And it would have been very hard for me, you know, at that young state where I was to separate was my idol. Right. And it would have been very hard for me, you know, at that young state where I was to separate from my idol.
Starting point is 00:27:10 You know, and that's the decision I made at the end. Do I say that there was some disloyalty in that? Yeah, I own up to that. Is there anything that me and Dame could do together now to make money? I think so. You got a film company, right? Yeah, we're going to work on films. And actually, I really like the films that he's doing.
Starting point is 00:27:26 He had all type of ideas in there. Like, Dame is like the original person who understood culture and really was in it in every situation. You know, Beans had a problem. Go pick Beans up. You know, have us on a jet with him. You know, talk to me and GLC directly. You know, talk to me about GLC with the film company. pick beans up with if some you know you have us on a jet with them you know talking to us direct talk to me and glc directly you know talking to me about glc with the film company like yo we got
Starting point is 00:27:50 to put out glc album you know just kind of remind you know similar to what you were saying the last time we was talking about having like the real you got to definitely say that dames are real absolutely you know so and when he came over the crib and i just saw him and I, I, I missed him and I miss, you know, I missed the good. I missed the bad. I missed, you know, all of that because all of that is what created college dropout, that tension, all of that is what created late registration. And now we, we creating something new now in the fashion world and in the film world. We don't realize the other day, we realized that you still have a love for music. And the reason I say that is I don't know who we were talking to.
Starting point is 00:28:26 It was Tiger. We were talking to Tiger. We was talking to Ty Dolla Sign. And I heard a remix with so many different people. They was like, Kanye's in the studio working with everybody. You've always got the new guys. Always have the new guys. That may not even be next in the studio with you.
Starting point is 00:28:38 It's like you keep your ears to the street. Yeah. They, you know, I just gotta, I have to work, you know? Like, I think a lot of times people get rich people get comfortable people fall in love and everything
Starting point is 00:28:48 you know I went to this Drake concert in Germany I flew to the concert to go see it and he got this one line where he say like something about people
Starting point is 00:28:58 be falling in love with famous girls and da da da and they don't want to be working as much and he rapped it and then when he rapped he knew I was in the console.
Starting point is 00:29:05 He, like, looked down and stuff. But he do it. Oh, to a little bit of fashion or something like that. Yeah, something like that. But, you know, he was right. You know what I'm saying? I got to get on my job. And that's why I got on the internet.
Starting point is 00:29:15 Bless. Hello, I'm back. You know what I'm saying? Like, we back in the studio. There's times that, you know, I got to go pick my daughter up and take her to, you know, dance class in the morning and just, you know, I go pick my pick my daughter up and take her to you know dance class in the morning and just you know i try to create a regiment but at least if i go to studio like six hours a day and it's funny because when i when i first sat with tiger like me and virgil
Starting point is 00:29:35 seen tiger at the ball my store and we knew he was fresh you know certain people they they have a certain talent with clothing a tiger asap rocky that's the thing certain people a certain talent with clothing. Tyga, A$AP Rocky, that's the thing. Certain people got certain talent with the bars and shit. Young Thug, Big Sean. And I sat in the studio with, it was me, Thug, Sean, Travis, Tyga. And I was just saying how we got to bring our resources together. We got to see how we can help each other to make each other way fresher share information bill have ciphers like back in the Wu Tang era like people used to have ciphers so last night when I was
Starting point is 00:30:12 working on all day at a Q-tips house there's like me a Vic miss Q-tip and we was just we was building on culture culture culture instead of trying to write bars we built on that and then I started writing bars. Then they started coming and we just started bouncing ideas off each other. So with me, you know, I'm only a humble servant. You know, if you have power, you have to empower. You have the power to get power where I said on the word song power. No one man should have all that power is a true statement. No one man has the power. The power is in the people. The people give you the power. The people chose me to be the people's champ. As soon as I go up, talk about me, me, me, you lose that. And then you got next generations. You got no matter how
Starting point is 00:30:56 hard I try, Drake is going to speak to a generation in a way that I might not have been at that same basketball game he was at, that same high school game, watched that same TV show, went to that same club. Tiger's going to speak to a certain, Big Sean's going to speak to a certain generation. And it's important for a revolution, like Common said on that song he just won for, it's the youth and the OGs have to come together. You need the energy of the youth. You need the knowledge of the OGs. That's what the Bible, old men for counsel, young men for war.
Starting point is 00:31:24 That's what I sit with. I sit with Puff puff i sit with dame i sit with jay i sit with farrakhan and i i talk to i talk to the ogs and try to you know figure out how we can help each other you know now with tiger um mentioning tiger your executive producing his album you feel like his relationship with your sister-in-law is inappropriate? I think that... That's a good question right there. You know what I'm saying? I think that... I think he got in early.
Starting point is 00:31:56 I think he was smart. I told him he's red-shirting him. And I said, that's a great red-shirt prospect. And let's be clear, Russell was 35 when he met Kamara. She was 17. Yeah, yeah. I mean, I don't, you know. But I'm from the South, too, though.
Starting point is 00:32:10 They closer in age than a lot of relationships that I know. He's 25. She'll be 18 in August. Yeah, I knew Tiger was smart, you know? No, no, no. Tiger came up here, though, and said they were just friends. I mean, that's what he's supposed to say, but. Yeah, I can't speak on that. I can't speak on that. Thank you, Yang. Tiger came up here, though, and said they were just friends. I mean, that's what he's supposed to say, but. Yeah, I can't speak on that.
Starting point is 00:32:26 I can't speak on that. Congratulations. Thank you, Ye. We appreciate that. We appreciate that a whole lot, Ye. We appreciate that. Your album. What kind of album are we getting?
Starting point is 00:32:36 What should we expect? Bars. Songs. You know, cookout. Music that just feels good. You know, know like my last album was a protest of music i was like i'm gonna take my ball and go home all right if y'all ain't gonna let me play what i want to play it do clothes and do this yeah start shooting the ball real slow when somebody be at the free throw for a long time that was my whole album and stuff. I don't even got no music.
Starting point is 00:33:06 I just let y'all have a little music on on Bound, but that was it. But this album is just embracing the music, embracing, you know,
Starting point is 00:33:13 joy, and just making, you know, being of service to the people. You know, I just hope that people like it and enjoy it,
Starting point is 00:33:20 you know? That's it. Now listen, you mentioned Minister Fagcon. Now, I also saw you say, when you was backstage at the Grammys, you said you didn't want to speak too much
Starting point is 00:33:29 because you didn't want to jeopardize your clothing line, but a lot of people don't like to stand next to the minister because they feel like he jeopardizes their business. Why are you not afraid to, you know, show your relationship with the minister? You know, it's interesting because I actually asked for the minister to give me my BET Visionary Award. And he, you know, he felt like it wasn't the right time. And maybe for reasons just like that, you know, right now I'm working on a documentary with him about him and about his music. You know, that he's a classically trained violinist.
Starting point is 00:34:10 And he's also one of the most humane people. And now, you know, he got that stamp in the same way like how my wife was, you know, stamped with the sex state, you know, the minister was stamped with the... Bigotry. Yeah. And it's important that while he's still alive, he has to see the people appreciate his message. Because if you ever hear him talk, it's about humanity. It's about one race. You know, as soon as you hear his name, I see people's faces like change. They have a perception.
Starting point is 00:34:42 And, you know, it's a lot that i can learn from him you know perhaps you know you know maybe maybe the minister mentioned beck one too many times or something like that and it's things i can learn in my path of how to always keep my communication as open as possible because right now it's right at that tip where it's like yeah we gotta have him because you know he's gonna bring some excitement to the grammys and all that um but you know we're working on this documentary, and it's amazing. It shows that he had, like, a white violin instructor, but then he talked about, because, you know, he was black,
Starting point is 00:35:15 how he couldn't get the white instructor, and there was no black instructors that can instruct him well enough. And he talks about how he was asked to stop doing music. He had to choose between the nation and music, and then how the Honorable Elijah Muhammad how he was asked to stop doing music. He had to choose between the nation and music. And then how the Honorable Elijah Muhammad asked him to come in one day to play the violin. And he embraced his passion of music. And, you know, it's just a beautiful story about a beautiful soul that's very misunderstood and one of our most powerful,
Starting point is 00:35:45 you know, messengers. And, uh, it's, it's very important that we, we protect our messengers. It's very important that we support them,
Starting point is 00:35:52 you know? Yeah. The minister is very sharp. You think it's, it's kind of confusing though when he'll say, you know, negative things about Jewish people, but then say we should learn from them.
Starting point is 00:36:00 That's kind of a confusing message. Oh, you could, yeah, we definitely should learn from them. We should learn from us. I'm tired of the, you know, us and them. Us meaning we should learn from human beings. Yeah. You know, it's the first thing we're going to do, I think, stop racism and stop focusing on racism.
Starting point is 00:36:18 And I understand that if somebody going to work right now that has a white boss that's talking down to them because they black and i'm not trying to deny that but i'm saying we understand that people is different races you know it'd be like light skin against dark skin and stuff it it just slows down the conversation man you don't know like i don't know if it's a excuse me for the same jokes though yeah yeah it does i don't know the lights can shut up yeah yeah yeah so i also every um people are human beings so everything this man says when i talk to him everything he says is pretty much correct but i'm saying everything a person say is not going to be correct you know every move a person make is not going to be well timed but sometimes those missed time moves can inspire the next generation, like Pac used to say.
Starting point is 00:37:06 He said, I might not change the world, but I'm going to inspire somebody that changes the world. When I think about, okay, I want to do surround vision. I want to do my movie theater. I want to do my clothing line. I want to do this. You know, my goal is, man, maybe there's a four-year-old that's going to see that and cure cancer one day.
Starting point is 00:37:22 Maybe we could keep – if your job is inspiration, you have to keep pushing that at all costs because you never know who's going to be inspired by that. And a lot of reasons why I'm successful now is because the people who work with me now grew up on the college dropout. You know, before when I was going in years ago, everyone,
Starting point is 00:37:37 they listen to rock. They like Bruce Springsteen. They're like, they don't even know about the college dropout. So now they know what we brought to the table and they want to they want to be a part of this yeah uh this this movement in a way now last year when it was uh so much racial tension and um you know the police brutality and stuff like it's almost like people wanted you to say something were you were you purposely you know falling back from being vocal about the mike brown situations and things like that? Yeah, my dad would email me and say, stay out of it.
Starting point is 00:38:07 And now my dad is like a thousand times smarter than me and a thousand times more social than me. He like literally lived at a homeless shelter. Right. You know, and he emailed me and told me, stay out of it. That's my only parent. You know, so I have to listen to him. Why? Sometimes.
Starting point is 00:38:24 I think he's just trying to be protective of his son. You know, I can't run in front of every bullet. You know, I just can't run in front of every single bullet. Is it in the music for this album, maybe? Oh, yeah, we definitely, yeah. You know, I'm always gonna, you know,
Starting point is 00:38:42 talk about, you know, what's going on like Marvin Gaye would say it's definitely gonna be in there I think 80% I'm trying to get it finished I'm trying to get it to the people you know as soon as possible how you gonna release it it's gonna be like a surprise you can't do it it's played out yeah last year's last year out yeah it's last year's last year's fashion you can't do it 100% release date is played out
Starting point is 00:39:07 so so the surprise is gonna be a surprise there goes the surprise no surprise now one thing the hood always wants to know too
Starting point is 00:39:15 where did that soft whisper Michael Jackson voice come from it debuted on the Chris Jenner show a couple years ago why did the hood
Starting point is 00:39:21 wanna know that I don't know that the hood watches that show. You've used it in more than that setting. Where did that come from? Is that like a, I don't know, you're in a shell? I don't know. Man, nobody wants, like the worst thing,
Starting point is 00:39:36 the thing that America doesn't want, okay, yeah. America and the world, they antagonize black men. You know, because black men aren't in their own country. They're not in power, blah, blah, this like so you're constantly getting poked at but the thing that they hate the most is the angry black man even though they can cause you to be angry they hate that and you know if you can just understand how to not get angry in a boxing match you know if you get angry you lost right you know so this this is a match of life, a match of culture. And if I'm angry all the time, I've already lost.
Starting point is 00:40:10 You know, so I just need to stop being angry. And people say, yeah, what is he out to be angry about? I got enough to be happy about to focus on that, to not be angry about stuff. Plus, it helps me work better when I'm calm. Right. Now, who wants to know, this is a ball stop question. Does Beyonce and Kim have a problem? Because it seems like they,
Starting point is 00:40:27 that people pit them against each other. Question mark. All the time. Does Beyonce and Kim have a problem? No, they love each other. They respect each other. When I,
Starting point is 00:40:35 when I, when Beyonce is working on an album, she has like, pictures of Kim on the wall because Kim represents, you know, powerful women. You know,
Starting point is 00:40:43 you know, Kim is like, be playing the um what's the what's the song i know you care what's that song 7-11 yeah 7-11 playing that video playing for our daughter you know that's not the only picture on the wall right no some other yeah i'm like that's weird but it's definitely you know they they definitely respect each other but it's all uh you know maybe there's a lebrBron James, Kobe element to it. But I didn't say that. But they're not even in the same lane.
Starting point is 00:41:12 Kim don't sing. She's not entertaining. They're in the bad mommy lane. Yeah, yeah. The MILF lane, is that what you were trying to say? I wasn't going to say that. I'm not going to. But they're in the bad, the beautiful mommy.
Starting point is 00:41:25 When it comes to raising Northwest, does it concern you? Are you like, okay, you know, obviously she's going to be spoiled because we're her parents, but does it concern you
Starting point is 00:41:33 that you want to make sure she's like got some type of, you know, street sense or anything like that? Do you even think about that? Yeah, she,
Starting point is 00:41:40 oh, her and her big, you know, her, my friends would call them her uncles. Her uncles definitely going to put on and big, you know, my friends, we call them her uncles. Her uncle's definitely going to put on and definitely, you know, it's this toy. I wish I know, what's the name of the brand of the toy, Gabe? What's the name of the store we went to yesterday?
Starting point is 00:42:00 Sweet William. They got these toys that my daughter got. Vanessa Beecroft that did the fashion show, she bought my daughter three wolves. And she saw these. Because I would see toys that people would see, and I'd be like, these toys is weak. She got to have better toys than this.
Starting point is 00:42:16 And sure enough, when she got these wolves from this toy store, she was going crazy. This is the happiest I ever seen her, right? So, of course, me, I'm going to go and buy every single toy there. And I was just having a conversation with my wife yesterday, like, okay, so we can't give her all these toys. We can't just walk in and just give her all the toys at once. She's like, well, just give them all for her birthday. She can't even have everything for her birthday.
Starting point is 00:42:44 We're going to have to, like, piece this out. So I am very conscientious about the idea of someone being too spoiled because I think I've been spoiled in the past. Is that where the song Wolves came from? I'm always thinking about Wolves for some reason. That's always been on my mind. Let's go back to Dame for a second. I'm just going to go ahead and give y'all a sound bite that y'all want.
Starting point is 00:43:05 I'm just going to go ahead and say y'all a sound bite that y'all want. I'm just going to go ahead and say it. Where the Wolf song came from. The Wolf song, I'm just going to go ahead and say it because maybe this will promote it happening.
Starting point is 00:43:14 So I'm going to go ahead and put it out in the real world. The Wolf song came from a conversation that me and Drake had where we was going to do an album together. And the album was called Wolves.
Starting point is 00:43:28 Jay would have been pissed off about that. Because when Jay came in, I asked Jay, would he ever do another album with an artist? He said no. I said, nah, specifically. He said no, because me and Jay already started that.
Starting point is 00:43:39 Yeah, so, and that's what happened. Me and Jay started talking about Watch The Throne, and Drake went and did all the records with Wayne and did the tour and we never did it. But I just went out and put it in the ether. I put it out in the world. If y'all don't like it, then y'all can send it right back. So you asked Drake to do an album?
Starting point is 00:43:57 Yeah, I asked him and we talked about it and he said, yeah, we was going to do it. And actually, he was sending beats back and forth. You know, I got this one record with Young Thug that I think we're going to put on Rihanna album. I know I've given a lot of information away today. That's what you're here for, yeah. We appreciate it. Thank you.
Starting point is 00:44:13 We're excited. Okay. Listen, so let's talk about you and Dame. Does that affect you and Jay's relationship now? Nobody's relationship affect any relationship. Everybody needs to just have a good relationship. You know, we all, I don't, you know, I, you know, if anything, nobody's relationship affect any relationship. Everybody needs to just have a good relationship. You know, we all, I don't, you know, I, you know, if anything,
Starting point is 00:44:33 you know, we all helped each other at a certain point. And, you know, we all see each other at a certain point. Do you and Jay still have a great relationship? Because, you know, you said that was your idol, but, you know, you work hard so your idols become your rivals. Man, that's... I wouldn't be sitting here today right now if it wasn't Jay. Jay helped me, period, in
Starting point is 00:44:52 every single way that you can think. Whether it was holding me down when I'm in New York, I'm the dude with the pink polo and a bad attitude. And I'm still here. Jay-Z. So is this Drake and Kanye album gonna happen?
Starting point is 00:45:08 I don't know. It might happen because I threw that out. Don't do it, man. By the way, he'd probably be mad that I mentioned it on y'all's show
Starting point is 00:45:16 since he dislikes y'all so much. He hates him. The big black bully over there. He hates him. So, is it true
Starting point is 00:45:24 that one time you was in a restaurant when you had the pink back in the pink polo days some dudes in New York was gonna rob you what was it called and Beanie came through with the pistol yeah that's true do you feel like you may owe Beanie something for that
Starting point is 00:45:39 I'm not gonna put out some you know some let me see I'm not going to put out some, you know, some. Let me see. You ain't got media training. This is a new year. You don't want to say something that could be a misconstrued. This is a new year.
Starting point is 00:45:59 Bees might still be on, you know, on them papers. Let me think about how I'm going to say this one. Okay, I know this is going to sound like a somewhat politically correct answer, like one of these politician type answers, but you know, I owe every hip-hop artist in a way. And I don't mean for you to come to House to Street and stand in front of
Starting point is 00:46:20 my apartment and be like, verse or something like that. But, you know, i owe hip-hop you know just like saying like ben horowitz is like the only vc out in san fran that like believes in rap you know he gave nas a piece of you know a rap genius and all that you know he used to be in a rap group but you know we all owe hip-hop and i believe that i do have the ability that i believe that i'm gonna be the head of the first trillion dollar company and 100 when i get to that point you know no rapper would ever have to worry about that's whatever have to worry about anything again you know my plan is to be coming one by one
Starting point is 00:47:02 big daddy kane come to his crib, everybody crib. You know how to do a hip-hop reparations. Yeah, exactly, like the Forrest Gump moment. When he got Apple and came to everybody. I owe every hip-hop artist because I wouldn't have made it this far without all of them. You know what I'm saying? I mean, look at my daughter's name. That's hip-hop.
Starting point is 00:47:23 Her name's Nori. You know what I'm saying? So you did name your daughter after Nori? No. There's an element of that in there. Nori earned only one. Nori was tweeting. Nah, I think he's talking about his daughter.
Starting point is 00:47:36 Like, Nori thought for a moment. He did. Nori tweeted that. Only one has nothing to do with Noriega. I didn't think that. Let's hope not. It don't have
Starting point is 00:47:51 nothing to do with Noriega whatsoever. But, you know, but everything else in my life does.
Starting point is 00:47:59 Let's talk about some of your artists for a second. You got a close relationship with Drake, but at one point Pusha T and Drake
Starting point is 00:48:04 had a little issue. And, you know And Pusha was hurt because you came out at OVO Fest. Yeah, we got over it. Kanye. New Kanye, I'm telling you. Now, Tiana Taylor,
Starting point is 00:48:23 what's going on with her? She put out an amazing album. She's your artist Taylor, what's going on with her? She put out an amazing album. She's your artist, but it seems, like, she's very talented, but it seems like
Starting point is 00:48:29 you don't support her. Like, you don't stand by her like you should, maybe. You know what? I don't support her enough. I need to do more.
Starting point is 00:48:36 I need to rap on some remixes. I need to go shoot some videos. A lot of times, it just, you know, when you're focusing on clothing, you're focusing on your family, you're focusing on all these different things,
Starting point is 00:48:49 you know, it's hard to put all the focus, you know. But, yeah, I do need to put some more focus on it. I haven't put enough focus on it. You are a true Gemini. Two weeks ago you was bum-rushing the stage, calling out Beck, far from humble, and now you're just, stage, calling out Beck, far from humble. And now you're just, like, humble as can be right now. Like I tell you, it seems like love for the music.
Starting point is 00:49:10 Like, he brought out Fetty Wap when he was performing at his show. He was a Jersey artist that's pretty new. And it's telling me that you're back to that element of music again. And that's what people are excited about. Yeah, and I was able to get—you know what's so funny? It's like right after I did the fashion show, I went to go shoot the Blessings video with Drake and Sean. And I was so happy. I was so happy to be able to go do that.
Starting point is 00:49:31 And I used to be resentful of having to do music. But because I was able to, now I can take a piss. You know, it's like somebody tell you just do one. I usually piss first, but I feel you what you're saying yeah so you know I'm just happy to just keep creating
Starting point is 00:49:49 and just inspire people through through through joy and accomplishment and like with the Adidas thing they gave me
Starting point is 00:49:56 a little bit of oxygen like I couldn't breathe I was looking at a person suffocating I got at least I got some ideas out maybe that's 10%
Starting point is 00:50:04 5% of what I really want to do. I want to be supported by Disney in the same way how Adidas supported me. I want Disney Imagineering to support my ideas. And the same energy that Fashion Week had and that same front row and all that. Bob Iger, I'm telling you, I'm going to bring that. I know right now our brands might not mix, but, like, I'm a family man. Thank you for Frozen.
Starting point is 00:50:28 That's like a second nanny, you know. You've been very reluctant, though, to call yourself a designer. At what point do you say, I am a designer? Do you feel like there is going to be a point, or you're just a creator? I think, yeah, I don't even know if it's a, I don't even want to give myself any form of a title anymore. I'm not calling myself a genius.
Starting point is 00:50:48 I'm not calling myself a visionary. Any title. Only thing I can say that is I'm a servant. You know, I want to serve. And if I can get a group of amazing designers together to create something to be able to serve the public, then that's my job. I'm just a humble servant. How do we know you're telling us the truth? And you're not just being politically correct because of your corporate connects.
Starting point is 00:51:06 Well, you know I'm never politically correct. You know, I'm just speaking from my heart of exactly where I'm at at that time, you know? Now, recently you said that when you first got with Kim, you lost a lot of friends. Why was that? And who? Who were your friends that you lost? You know, when I said that in the interview, I said so-called friends.
Starting point is 00:51:21 Yeah, those are just the fashion people that you were getting to know? Yeah, getting to know that, you know, it's all this, should we let them sit at the table? Should we not let them sit at the table? But there were some people in fashion that did stand by us. There's Kareem Rothfield, there's Ricardo Tisci, that, you know, even Anna Wintour, they were part of the anti-Kemye movement. You know, they were standing on the front line when there was an anti-Kimye movement.
Starting point is 00:51:50 And now they're here at any meeting, any dinner they have, they'll be like, man, see, I told y'all I was the ones that was, you know, like Ricardo Dresda, Kareem put on a magazine, Anna put on a magazine. So that statement was a little bit out of context because it wasn't everybody. But there was a lot of people. And so be it. They was wrong and we was right. Do you hold grudges or are you cool to work with people even after that?
Starting point is 00:52:11 You just know they fake. You know how to deal with them. Yeah, I don't hold no, no. Yeah, I've never held a grudge anyway. You can see he's back here. They said after you left this day, you were really flustered. I know you went to go see Sway and a lot of people were saying y'all messed up
Starting point is 00:52:26 this whole day after the interview with the Breakfast Club that was beautiful man at least that happened like you know at least the house Sway
Starting point is 00:52:33 I know you was mad that you didn't get that part right there but it's like I like that you ain't got the answers you ain't got the answers Charlamagne that was a good one though
Starting point is 00:52:40 that was a good soundbite you got me souped up and stuff you charged me up for that joint but you know it's like he really didn't have the answers. You know, that was incorrect. That was incorrect what he was saying.
Starting point is 00:52:51 You know, I could have said it in a calmer way, but he was misinformed. But I think, you know, the only thing I was saying last time was, like, those fashion people don't love you. So it's like, why ask them for help? You Kanye. And as you can see see you're doing pretty okay for yourself well i needed that help because still now i got like one of my head designers worked in margiela for a while one of the girl worked on the shoes worked at celine you know i've been pulling that talent from a place that was only for the four thousand dollar jacket
Starting point is 00:53:18 lines to a place that we're going to be delivering shoes at two hundred dollars a hundred dollars we might get some shoes down to sixty dollars i mean we we're going to be delivering shoes at $200, $100. We might get some shoes down to $60. I mean, we're about to flip this whole thing on its head. It's a new idea of apparel. And they got information, and I had to ask them. I had to be humble. I had to beg to go to dinners, and I had to explain to them, why should we work with you?
Starting point is 00:53:40 How do we know you're just not another celebrity that's going to wear a red leather jacket, or you're going to diss us in public or you're going, you know. And it's been a long journey. And now we've gained some ground and I can give some, you know, dope shit to the people. But these people are knowledgeable, man. They went to the Yale of, you know, fashion. I mean, speaking, these are the experts and you're trying to learn from them to get better Yeah, I hate when people be talking about I just designed a restaurant I just designed you be like man look like you design this
Starting point is 00:54:20 Did you get backlash from II when you told Terrence J and Chloe take the e-logos off the Kardashians on a percentage of this That was turnt. I'm really happy. I did that man. That was like really ignorant, you know, that was turnt I'm really happy I did that man that was like really ignorant you know that was uh like did he get backlash like Chris control your son yeah yeah because
Starting point is 00:54:31 they was happy because they got more ratings and by the way that my opinion from someone that's knowledgeable you know
Starting point is 00:54:38 what's offensive to me is uh you know over branding all that that's too much, man. That's not futuristic, man. That's in the now and in the past.
Starting point is 00:54:47 They got to be forward, man. We got to promote forward ideas, man, because beauty is important. If beauty was important, you know, my wife wouldn't be so famous. You don't get insulted when you say that? What? Like, I heard you say that at the after party.
Starting point is 00:54:59 It was like, if it wasn't for beauty, the Kardashians wouldn't be famous. If I said that, that could come off as insulting. But they beautiful. You know how many people want to be that beautiful? They don't have anything else, brains, business. Obviously, they connected some business sense because they're all, you know, successful family and all, you know, multimillionaires.
Starting point is 00:55:19 And one thing I think about with me is look how long it's taken me to turn any of my friends to a multimillionaire. Kim did it like that. She did it out the gate she was like oh you're gonna take Chloe you're gonna take Courtney we're gonna take Courtney boyfriend we're gonna take the kids we're gonna take this and we all gonna be millionaires like that you know like reality is like rap it's so futuristic it's the new you know like my wife is a visionary at the end of the day like SNL want to make skits and be like, what did you do? I don't know nobody else that is successful at what she's doing as her.
Starting point is 00:55:53 Now, I've only got a couple more questions. Did you, was only one therapeutic for you? Like did it bring you to tears in the studio? Maybe? Oh, yeah. Yeah, 100%. And it brought my you to tears in the studio, maybe? Yeah, 100%. And it brought my wife to tears, anybody I play it for. And people ask me, why did I go Only One over all day?
Starting point is 00:56:12 Well, Only One made me feel like me. It made me feel like this was the song I had to play back in the studio of Cameron and Jim Jones and whoever played 30 Dipset records. When am I going to play to be the pink polo? When am I play that's gonna stand out what what point do i have what that was my problem my issue i had once i got which i love cruel summer i think it's amazing but i felt like i started sort of you know blending in with the pack and in a way you know with a record like click which is a great click i mean it was it was a great song. We still perform it. But it's important for me to innovate.
Starting point is 00:56:50 And even like with Drake, I think he would tell you, it's like it's important to have a Yeezus album. It's important to have whatever this next thing is because you need vibes from all directions. You need innovators. My job in life is to innovate. I think The Only One is an innovative record. I think 4-5 is an innovative record. I think 4.5 is an innovative record. I think Wolves is a less innovative,
Starting point is 00:57:07 but it's the third proposition this year off the album. If Wolves sounds like, you know, 808s a bit, it sounds like Signature Kanye, Post 808s, Drake, Whirl, you know, record. That's a run-on. You got a proper run-on, so you can say you understand what I'm talking about. The record sounds so personal and this may sound crazy
Starting point is 00:57:27 but my grandmother who I love dearly she was my second mom she passed away and I had a dream about it and it was like she was talking to me in my dreams
Starting point is 00:57:34 I wonder if you had like a vision of your mother speaking to you maybe that caused that record yeah that's exactly what it is I didn't realize
Starting point is 00:57:42 I said and I didn't even know exactly it's literally like those movies you see where it's like somebody talks to you i murmured that and i realized after the fact i said only one and my name kanye my mother named me that it means only one that's the meaning of my name. Then after the song was out, my cousin, Abigail, which I promise I got you some shoes. I'm looking for a size six. They run a little bit big. But said, you know that our grandmother, my mom,
Starting point is 00:58:19 used to say, now lay me down to sleep. I pray the Lord our soul to keep before she put me to bed. And my grandmother actually named me Omari, which is the first line. Hello, Omari. So I realized at that point that they were both talking to me. It wasn't just my mom
Starting point is 00:58:35 that my grandmother was speaking to me. So you get these generations. So right now I'm working on a video game for Only One. And the idea is it's my mother going through the gates of heaven. And you got to bring it to the highest gates of heaven by holding it to the light. And, you know, we've been working on it for like six months.
Starting point is 00:58:51 Is that why you kept the lights low at the Grammys? Because that was the first time you performed and you thought you might break down? I didn't like, you know, nah, it was supposed to be more smoke on it. And the practice version was better. And I wasn't completely satisfied with the visuals on the Grammys. That's why I turned up on the SNL visuals. I was like, I ain't playing. They got to know I'm not playing.
Starting point is 00:59:13 These visuals got to hurt. Working with Paul McCartney, I read an article where they compare you to John Lennon. Has Paul McCartney ever said anything to you about that? Nah, but we talk about any and everything. But I do think that there's like the angst that I feel, the, you know, the angst that I feel from the world, the angst I feel from like, you know, what people are going through in Chicago,
Starting point is 00:59:39 what people are going through financially, the angst, what people are going through with just, you know, I feel like John felt like that. And when I got past the Gucci store and got past how cool my jacket was, I finally was, like the song says, the man I always knew you could be. When I became like a protector, a dad, a husband, I finally, you know, could stand up and stand for something. Right.
Starting point is 01:00:01 You know? Well, we appreciate you joining us, man. The new improved media trained. Yay! Yes. Right. You know? Well, we appreciate you joining us, man. The new, improved media train. Yay! Yes. Okay. We appreciate you joining us.
Starting point is 01:00:09 I'm glad you came back. Yeah. Happy to be here. I think it was Charlemagne, man. I love that this started so different. He loves the new songs.
Starting point is 01:00:16 Calm a guy, humble a guy. Listen, when I gave him talking today last time, what did I say? I said a guy that's so easy to like, but he makes it hard
Starting point is 01:00:23 to want to like him with just a couple antics. But that's part of being human, but he makes it hard to want to like him. With just a couple antics, but that's part of being human, right? Yeah. All right, well, ladies and gentlemen, it's Kanye West. It's the Breakfast Club.
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