The Breakfast Club - Kathy Hochul Talks Cashless Bail, Gun Control Laws, NY Housing, Gov Election + More

Episode Date: November 3, 2022

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The Breakfast Club. Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy, Angela Yee, Charlamagne Tha Guy. We are The Breakfast Club. We got a special guest in the building. She is the governor of New York. We have Governor Kathy Hochul. Welcome.

Good morning. Good to see everybody. Great to be here. I was like, we have to have you up here because elections are coming up mm-hmm and you know we see a lot and I've been seeing ads like crazy lately there's a lot of information and a lot of misinformation out there so we wanted to make sure we had you because Lee Zeldin's been up here already I'm in fact he sat in that same chair that same chair you're sitting in, Lee Zeldin sat in. Alright, alright. You're throwing down the gauntlet now, huh? Bring it on, bring it on.

The first thing Governor said was, I should have worn my Bills jacket when I was coming here because she seen me wearing my New York Giants. Well, I'm a Cowboys fan, so I can care less. I'm a Bills fan. There you go. This year. Why do you like the Bills so much? Every year I pick a different team. This year I picked the Bills because I felt like they had a good chance of possibly going to the Super Bowl. She's a swing voter.

You are a swing voter. You should respect her. And I'll take a swing voter. I want respect for that. I'll take a fair weather fan any day. Just be with the team. She can't name one player. Just say Josh Allen, you're fine.

See, you heard it. Just say Josh Allen. You told an interesting story before the mics came on about Lee Zeldin at the debates. Yeah, it heard it. Say Josh Allen. You told an interesting story before the mics came on about Lee Zeldin at the debates. Yeah, it's interesting. I was just, you know, you're talking about the size of the chairs and the height and all that stuff. I said, I'm a little shorter. We had a little platform built for us at the debate.

Give me a little, so I can reach the microphone. And, you know, just in some reason, my opponent decided he needed to have the platform built as well. So I just, whatever that's all about. Very much. It would be that just, whatever that's all about, to be that much taller, it's all right. Yeah, it kind of feeds into the intimidation factor that we saw Trump do against Hillary Clinton in the debates. You know, it's a nice effort, but nobody intimidates me. There you go.

I'm a street fighter from Buffalo. Bringing it on is what I say. That's all right. I love campaigning, by the way. Now, how did you become governor of New York? Do you know what happened in August of 2020? My God.

Let me take you back. Let me take you back. A lot of people don't know. Yes, they do. A lot of people don't. Okay, but listen, you would be the first elected woman governor.

No, she wasn't elected, per se. Okay, okay. No, yeah. If after this election, you know, when you win, you would be the first woman elected governor. That's a huge deal. But you are governor now because of Cuomo and everything that happened with that.

Because I was lieutenant governor for eight years. That's why I know this state. I know all the boroughs. I know all the great restaurants. I know all the neighborhoods. I have been everywhere for eight years. But when you're lieutenant governor, you're number two. It's not exactly the most high- high profile position, right? You probably

couldn't name my lieutenant governor now, can you? No. It's Antonio Delgado. I'll take somebody else. All right. So it's Antonio Delgado and he's fabulous. He's a member of Congress, became our lieutenant. I was lieutenant governor for eight years. Before that, I was a member of Congress from upstate New York. So I became the governor. When a governor resigns, lieutenant governor takes over. So I've been on the job 14 months. But I could step right in because I knew the job. I knew the state. I knew the issues, and I've been working on them for many, many years. So the transition, a lot of people say, my God, what a tough time. you know, hurricane and pandemic and shooting in

Buffalo and all the things you've had overcome. I can handle it because I've had to overcome so much throughout my life. Did you have the intention of running for governor even before that happened? No, I didn't see this coming. No, I really didn't. You know, I've been blessed to have so many opportunities to serve at different levels. I represented a very conservative district in Congress. I didn't last long because I wouldn't go against President Obama's health care plan. I lost my election on that issue. I would do it all over again. You know sometimes you have to stand up for people even if they don't appreciate it at the time. So I

never saw this coming but I've always been ready. You know that's that's my key to success. You just got to be ready for that if it happens so the people have confidence that the state's in good hands. And that's what we've done for the last year is just manage crisis after crisis after crisis. But you dial back the drama. You start working with people. First time a governor in New York has worked with the mayor of New York in a long time. And look at the results.

We're collaborating. We're working as a team. And people just want to know that there's people in charge who have their back. We're out there fighting for them. And it's that simple. I'm a New Yorker. And one of the main things right now with this election that everybody's talking about is cashless bail. Now, Lee Zeldin is saying he will get rid of cashless bail if he's elected. I want to know what your thoughts are on that, because we've, you know, we've been talking about this a lot. And there's a lot of misinformation about bail and Cassius bail and people going back in the streets and crime in New York. So I want to get your position because I think crime in New York is such a huge issue right now.

It's a huge issue is right. This is my number one issue. I've been working on this not because it's a campaign time, but since I became governor a year ago. And I can walk you through what we've done on getting 8,000 illegal guns off the streets. I mean, there's no legal guns being made here. They're all legal coming in from another state. So I took our state police and said, you can be out there giving out speeding tickets, or I can get you on the border stopping the flow of illegal guns. And so we focused on a lot of ways we've made a difference on the murders and shootings,

but the bail issue is important. I'm really grateful to have the chance to explain it. A number of years ago, the decision was made by my predecessor in the legislature that there's a situation where two people accused of the same offense, they both steal a backpack, go before a judge. family has money he gets bailed out he goes back to his job he goes back to school he's fine you know shows up in court later and everything's good a person whose family does not have the money or they don't have the money themselves to post bail they end up in rikers for a low level offense offense. It doesn't harm anybody, right? So that was the injustice that was the premise behind the original bail changes back in 2018, 2019. What happened,

though, was not just the low-level cases, but other cases, other crimes were being swept under the changes. Cases with guns, loaded or unloaded. Cases where there's repeat offenders. People keep going into the same store day after day after day after day and clearing the shelves. And harm to other people. Violations of orders of protection. So I became the governor, watching the crime rate, watching what's going on. Not blaming those changes, but saying there's some loopholes that we need to close. We need to bring some of this back under. And I fought hard for that. And I took a lot of grief for that because I knew in my heart it was

the right thing to do. But I had to win people over. I did it in our budget, got those changes done. They've only been in effect a few months, so they haven't had a chance to work. But I need the whole system to work. What people don't realize is that for two straight years, there were no criminal trials, no jury trials because of COVID. They wouldn't meet because they didn't want to have jurors sitting that close to each other. So we have a huge backlog of cases in the court system. I also need the judges to do the right thing, the district attorneys to do the right thing, and the whole system to work together. And telling people we're still the safest big city in America doesn't feel like it.

I understand that to my core. I understand the anxiety. And going into the subway with Mayor Adams a couple weekends ago was not my first time. He was newly sworn in January 6th, earlier this year. We went to the subways and talked about the fear in the subways, protecting people, getting more police, getting cameras. So if someone's going to do something wrong. We're going to catch you on camera and you'll be brought to justice. You can't hurt somebody else on a subway. And also the people who are severely mentally ill, severely mentally ill people should not be on the subway because they

can have an episode and push somebody on a track. And there's a, there's a tragedy. So we call it working on tops, cameras, and care. We've been doing this from the beginning. This is not a new issue to me. So it is very disingenuous for someone to come on the show and say, changing the bail laws is going to make the difference. We made changes. Let's see how they work. I'm always willing to make changes if necessary. We made changes. Let's see how they work. I'm always willing to make

changes if necessary. I'm flexible. But we have a nationwide crime spike. You can't blame the New York State bail laws on that. Let's stay on the bail laws for a minute. I was going to ask, you know, with police officers leaving at large numbers, right, they're retiring, they're quitting, they don't want to do it. They're saying a lot of it is due to the bail reforms. They're arresting people, and with hours, they come right back out, and then they do that same crime over. And it's not, like you said, small-level crimes, and that's making a lot of cops and people scared where they don't want to go to work anymore because they feel like their work is for nothing. And that's exactly the change we made. When I talked about repeat offenders, I can

understand the frustration. The police officers and the business person who's just been robbed wants some justice and nothing happens because they get people get cycled through over and over again. That's how it was. But as part of the budget that I got through, and again, the budget's when the governor has the most power. You know, that's when I can put things in there that others may not be real excited about, but that's when I can use the has the most power. That's when I can put things in there that others may not be real excited about, but that's when I can use the leverage of the budget. That's what I use. That's why our budget was nine days late.

I said, I'm not leaving here until we deal with this repeat offender issue and some of these other issues. So now the law says that if it's a repeat offender, you have the ability, judge, to consider bail. Now, again, that's still the discretion of the judge. A judge can still come up with a different decision. I can't control that. I don't elect the judge here.

But that's where the system is starting to pull back together. Everybody does their part. Isn't that still the same problem? If somebody can afford to get out on bail, right, and the judge gives you a bail, then the people who have money will still be able to get out, and the people who don't have money won't. The judge also has the discretion to remand as well in cases he can look at, is it bail eligible? Does he want to set it so high he knows the person's not going to make it so they will be held? Or does he just want to simply remand them and hold them?

And that's where the whole system has to work together. It's many parts. It's so simplistic to just say, you know, you fire one district attorney and change bail and then everything's all wonderful again. I hope voters aren't buying that. I hope they are not buying that. That is so disingenuous, so unfair. It's a lie. It's a lie. That's not going to change things. And for someone, Lee Zeldin, who says he's tough on crime but is soft on guns, ask him whether or not he voted in Washington for the most significant anti-gun legislation that made sure that there was background checks and other reforms. The most significant legislation in Washington in 30 years, he wouldn't even vote for it.

He didn't vote to fund police in Washington. He didn't bother to show up to vote. I tripled the amount of money going for law enforcement, as well as our violence disruptor groups, the people who've been in the system, who come out and work with the clergy and the community leaders to try and get young people to be on a different path so they don't feel the only family they're going to have is in a gang. I have invested money, resources, changed laws, and worked on getting illegal guns off the streets, and Lee Zeldin doesn't even bother to show up to support our police. People need to know that, and this is really frightening. He opposes our efforts to keep concealed weapons off the subways and out of churches and synagogues and schools.

And in fact, he even said this weekend, teachers should have guns. He said teachers should have guns. Think about this. Let's say a school has a metal detector. Okay. Someone says, well, I've been radicalized online, like the white supremacists who massacred my neighbors up in Buffalo. You get more people like that. I want to become famous. So I'm going to go shoot up a classroom. I don't have to worry about getting past the metal detector because I know there's a loaded gun in a classroom. I can just go take that gun from the teacher because you've just told me that every teacher is going to have a gun. That's a hell of a hypothetical, though, right? To say that the student can fight a teacher and take the gun?

You don't think an adult could come in? Or another 18-year-old, a 20-year-old? I mean, those guns in classrooms do sound like a very... Most of these shooters are 18. They're mostly 18-year-olds. Yeah, I'm a person who believes, you know, schools should have the same type of security as the airport. Like, so I believe that there should be metal detectors. I believe that there should be armed guards just like there is at the airport. So if it's not that, what do you think they should do to protect schools? What you said is smart. We're not the teachers. That's the difference.

He said teachers. I have no trouble. Couldn't you tackle an armed guard the same way, though? Well, an armed guard is trained. They're not going to have someone just walk up and be a teacher. Our teachers have enough to deal with. They're dealing with kids who've been left behind for two straight years because they had basically

no education. What if it's a teacher who is an avid gun owner who's trained, who knows how to use their gun and feels safer with their gun in the classroom because of everything that's happening nowadays? What I would ask is the parents, how do you feel your child being in a classroom when there's a loaded gun?

I think that's a fair question. Ask the parents how they would feel about that. You could say you could ask the parents how those children feel. Children were killed when the police didn't run in and they had no protection. And see, when it comes to New York, my problem with New York is, and I was born and raised in New York. My father's a retired police officer. I feel like a lot of times it forces you to get in a situation you can't handle, right? If I go to any other state, I think it's like 40 states I'm licensed to carry.

I can't carry in New York, of course. But how do I protect myself? With crime rising and they're letting people out as they get locked up, it's like I'm a target. It's like he's a target. It's like, you know, you have security, so you're not as a target. She's a target. You know, to the point where I don't feel comfortable taking my kids trick-or-treating. You know, I don't feel comfortable because I can't protect myself.

And then the police are not coming. They're retiring and quitting at high rates. And it's like, but if I do carry a weapon and I'm doing it and I'm carrying it to protect myself, I got to go to jail for three years. So it's kind of like a weird situation, especially in New York, when it comes to carrying legal firearms. And let me talk to you about it. And I'm trained. And I understand. And let's talk about New York State has some of the toughest gun laws in America.

The toughest. A lot of states do not have any restrictions. So what is the death by firearm rate in states like New York? About five people per 100, thousand killed by firearms. In the states that don't have the same protections we do, pick any one of them, it's about 20, 25, 30 per hundred thousand. The number of people getting killed by firearms because the accessibility, someone gets into a fight in a bowling alley or gets unhappy with someone at a subway station, someone gets shoved and they're not just shoving back anymore. They have a weapon.

I think we really need to rethink whether or not within a city with 8 million people, we want people armed sitting all around us because the data shows that those states that have looser laws, people are dying at a higher rate than they are here in the state of New York if that's the real concern that we have. So I look at numbers.

I look at data. I understand, but I also understand the very, really real emotions that are out there. There is fear out there. But in telling people that the numbers are lower, it doesn't matter. It doesn't matter. It's how you feel. And the reality is murders and shootings are down, but other crimes are up without a doubt. And we're trying to tackle that. You know, the big crime right now is car theft. People are stealing the catalytic converters because, and we just had to pass a law. And now we have, if someone's trying to steal a catalytic converter, the metals in it are very expensive. They take it to a chop shop. Everybody gets rich. Then there's a victim out. We have victims out there. We made it so the shop that

they go to now has to report it to us. They have to keep a record of who brought that. So we just did that last week. I think that's going to start driving down. That's when you look at our numbers, one of the big drivers is auto theft and the theft of catalytic converters. So everywhere there's a problem, we're tackling it and going at ghost guns. One year ago, people could order online and assemble in their living room, put together an assault weapon, and go shoot up a grocery store in Buffalo. We banned the ghost guns. So we're always trying to be ahead of this. My husband was Barack Obama's United States attorney up in Western New York. His focus was gangs and street crimes. And he drove down the rate where he was

able to work with the community groups, the clergy, the violence disruptors, they were all his allies, but also worked really hard with law enforcement, brought them together to drive crime down. I still see we have great potential to do that. That's why, as governor, I've been that convener. I brought together nine states, leaders of nine states, law enforcement, to say, I need your help to stop those guns from coming here. I don't want them in East New York. I don't want them in the Bronx. I want our people safe.

And it's that flow of guns. We have 400 million guns in this country that kids are killing each other, and it has to stop. And part of the other way to stop it is to give those young people an alternative. And I'm laser focused on training programs and helping them get the jobs. And I speak in churches all the time. It's mostly the older women in the churches. And I say, get your grandson in here, get him in this program. There's people are going to take care of him. He's going to be okay. He's had to stop the time in his life when he's most vulnerable to the allure of being part

of a gang and feeling, you know, he's got power when he's got that gun. I want to go back to the bail law reform for a second, because I saw Tammy Hudson, the mother of Kiara Benefield, and she says your support for NY's no cash bail law directly led to her daughter's death. And she said you should also be charged with the crime because she feels like, you know, you have responsibility. What do you say to that? All I can say is that is a grieving mother. That is a grieving mother. I understand the anguish she's going through. She doesn't understand how this could have happened to her beloved daughter, leaving her children without, her grandchildren without a mom. My family, my mother was a real champion for victims of domestic violence.

Our family started a home for victims of domestic violence. The system failed. And I will just simply say, you know, I'm not going to argue the facts with a woman who's in such pain. And a lot of people are saying your lead has shrunk because of the rollbacks on some of the bail law reform. What do you say to that? And I think this is an opportunity for people to listen to what I just explained.

You know, why the laws were put in place before I got there, what I did to correct the areas where there needed to be reforms done, and they've only been in place a few months.

So I'm just simply saying that we really have to tackle the issue of guns. Lee Zeldin has a horrific record on guns, opposes our red flag laws, which means that when someone sends a message on social media, I'm going to shoot up a school, we have the right as a society to protect ourselves and go to that person's house and do they have guns. This literally happened in Buffalo a few days ago.

Because of the New York State red flag laws that I toughened and Lee Zeldin opposes, the police were able to identify someone who made a threat to their high school, went to their house and found a whole cache of guns. I want to prevent violence, not just talk about it afterward. And I think that also no system is going to be perfect. Right. When it comes to certain things. And I know that the cash with cashless bail, there's a lower recidivism rate. I saw that. But then also, I don't know how we would argue against the fact that somebody could get out on bail because they have money, but someone else can't because they don't, right? And it's somebody that would get bail otherwise, because there's still people who aren't going to even have the opportunity. There's no bail at all. And so those people who are violent offenders still will have to be in jail.

But I think that if somebody is able to get out on bail and the judge is going to give you a bail, that it should be cashless because the only difference is if you have money or if you don't. And I don't see how we would argue that because there are people who are sitting in jail for speeding tickets and fines and things like that that should be able to get out.

But I do feel like, yes, if it's somebody that the judge feels is a danger to society, they shouldn't get out at all. I'm not talking speeding tickets. I'm not talking... But there are people who were sitting in jail for those reasons. I'm talking about the gentleman

who punched a cop in the face, and he was... Punched a cop in the face. He got out right away after getting out a week ago for having a gun charge. Like, after getting out another week ago for having a gun charge. Like, after getting out another week ago for alleged assault. But my thing is, would he have gotten a cash

bail at all? Because then the only difference would be because then maybe that's somebody that shouldn't get a bail at all. No, I don't feel like you should get a bail. But that's the point. That's what she was saying. It's up to the judge's discretion. It's the same thing in Illinois. The Republicans took the message in Illinois and came up with that whole purge thing, but it's the same thing in Illinois. Like, the Republicans took the message in Illinois and came up with that whole purge thing.

But it's the same exact thing. The judge had the discretion to decide. And judges are elected. And there's consequences at the polling place. I was going to ask about housing now as well. You know, a lot of black and brown minorities have a hard time getting houses, have a hard time getting loans, have a hard time anything coming up with a deposit you know grant so what what are your thoughts on helping more minorities become homeowners because we all know that homeowners is usually starts generation of wealth for us you know

that is so true you know I focus a lot on economic empowerment for black and brown communities and there has been this neglect people assume that anybody it's the American dream, everybody can rise up. Well, that's not the case when there's been systemic racism and barriers to people being able to advance. And I'll get to the housing question in a moment, but since I took office 14 months ago, everything we've been doing is through the lens of equity, you know, trying to make up for the disparities that reared their ugly head even more so during the pandemic. You know, why more black and brown individuals lost their lives? What kind of health care were they getting or not getting at that time? And so we, I have Dr. Mary Bassett, a brilliant

woman who's the head of our health department. She is charged with identifying in the health care system, the disparities, why maternal mortality is so high for black women, why they're more likely to die on the delivery table than anyone else. So we are laser focused on that. So we look at all the areas where there's disparities through this lens. And it also rears itself in housing. And we have toughened our laws also on discriminatory practices that still exist today. And I grew up in Buffalo and my parents were involved in something called Housing Opportunities Made Equal. It was a white block.

My parents brought in people from Buffalo, people of color, and tried to work to get them to be able to live in our neighborhood and break down the racism. We had a lot of threats on our family at the time for simply doing something that today, we would say, how is that possible in my lifetime? But it was real. It was real. And we fought against that even back then and now we have to

make sure that we have programs for first-time homebuyers make sure there's not discriminatory lending practices the redlining where people would say well that that neighborhood is high crime so we won't give you insurance you can't buy a house there it's all cyclical but what I'm gonna continue doing is creating more housing stock more more affordable housing overall, making sure we have supportive housing for people. But when I talk about the economic empowerment, I think about projects. We just opened up a new area with Magic Johnson. Magic Johnson is one of the big investors in our investments.

Never heard of him. Love that guy. Love that guy. And he's so tall. He's so tall. I felt like a dwarf next of him. Love that guy. Love that guy. And he's so tall. He's so tall. I felt like a dwarf next to him. But it was exciting because his company is coming in and helping create thousands of jobs here. And we gave him that ability by saying, we intentionally said, I want 30% of this product, 40% of this product to be MWB.

You figure it out. You hire the people, the contractors. And so there's a spinoff. And those people from Jamaica and the communities around the airport that are so hit hard, they have to deal with all the traffic and they have to deal with all the noise. They should be the ones who rise up the fastest and they can be able to buy a house. They'll have the money to buy a house. We give them the good paying jobs. I literally was on the phone early this morning with a CEO who wants to come to New York, bring 600 jobs, because we were able to announce last week, because of my efforts here at the state and Chuck Schumer at the federal level,

the largest private sector investment in our state history, we're bringing back home the semiconductor manufacturing facilities to be 50,000 jobs. What does that mean? That means here in the city of New York, I want to grab high school kids and young people and get them into a training program. I said, you can make $100,000 to start if I can get you the training in these jobs. So that's how you lead to that ability to buy that home and to get out of the crushing weight of having to make those rent payments and the anxiety that happens every single day when people aren't sure if the cost of living is going to get higher and higher and higher. So there's a lot of pain out there, but I'm so focused on this because

I'm hardwired to solve problems, but also I have an empathetic heart. I was raised in a family of social justice Catholics. We were out there marching for civil rights back when I was a kid. I had a band protesting the Vietnam War as a little kid in school. So I come out of a family that didn't have much. Parents used to live in a trailer park, and Dad worked at a steel plant, but we rose up because my dad got an education. And I want that same shot for every young person. So we're investing in education that will lead to the new jobs, that will lead to the house that every young person and family

deserves to have in the state of New York. I read an article in the National Review that says Democratic leadership is making NYC unlivable for conservatives. And there's this Republican exodus. So how do you plan to keep people in New York? Well, we have to give them the jobs. And, you know, people may not want to be here philosophically. We do have we do advance people's rights in this state. And if that's something an individual philosophically doesn't support, you know, I hope they will stay. We welcome them to stay and hopefully understand

why it's so important for us to have rights for people. And it's been a long journey to get to the rights we have here in the state of New York, whether it's LGBTQ rights, women's rights that are under assault right now. I mean, people want to live in a state where whether or not a woman can decide what to do with her own body is unquestioned. I mean, that's why New York State is even more welcoming. People are starting to want to come here from other states, and we embrace them because that's who

we are. We're so fascinatingly diverse. We welcome people from all over, but also we have jobs now that we didn't have before. So I encourage everyone to stay. Be honest now. MAGA conservatives can go. Let me tell you a story real quick. You got a second? How much time? I would hope so. It's on you. It's on you. I'll tell you. This is why I'm a different kind of leader. In Congress, I was elected as the first Democrat to represent the most Republican district in the state 10 years ago. How did I do that as a Democrat from Buffalo? I went out to the small towns and the diners and the VFW posts and met with the people. And I was out there fighting for health care, protecting Social Security and Medicare. And they saw in me as someone who was not defined so much by labels,

but as someone who really had a heart that was a fighter. I am a fighter. We're about action. But I voted to protect their interests, and I was elected. And one time I was taking a little trip along a canal. It was an Erie Canal, as you all know, it changed the history of New York, the Erie Canal. I was on a boat with my husband, and we pulled up to a dock in one of these really conservative small towns, docked the boat, didn't understand why there's so many other boats around, realized that we were in

the middle of a Trump flotilla. There's all these Trump flags flying. And we had to jump out. We're going to go try to find a pizzeria in the town to get some food. And we were surrounded by people. And I didn't know if they'd recognize me or not not and I stepped out in the crowd and I saw a bunch of the guys looking out of the hood of a car. Sounds like a horror movie. No, it gets better. It gets better and they're all looking. I said, is it a 67 Chevelle? I said, my brother had that. Open up that. Let me see what you got under here. So I start talking guys we're talking about you know how i drove the pace car nascar i've been you know i just i do everything i can so i start all of a sudden we start talking about football because this is up in buffalo bills country so we're talking about the bills game we're talking about cars we're talking about

boating we're talking play seat and by the and they knew who i was they knew at the time i was lieutenant governor of new york as a. They were all truly Trump supporters. But by the time we were done, they said, come on back and have a beer with us after you get your dinner. Here's a place to eat. I do believe that we can connect with people in a different way. When you set the election aside on November 9th, there will be an opportunity for me to govern for the next four years in an inclusive way that understands there's parts of our state where they feel neglected, overlooked, whether it's, you know, in the boroughs or whether it's upstate. They need to have a leader who will bring people together

and not be so divisive. I've already demonstrated I can be that person, and that's exactly why I believe those individuals will still want to stay in a state where their children will have a good education, they have a chance of getting a good job, and will protect the rights of their family. What you're saying is right in theory, if we were dealing with a traditional type of conservative. But I feel like when I hear Democrats say that, it sounds like y'all want to play nice with the racists, y'all want to play nice with the fascists. That's what it sounds like. No, no, no, no, no, no, no. Because if you would have started having a conversation about black people or LGBTQ or immigrants with those same individuals, it would have changed real quick.

Exactly. My job as the governor is to not drive people away from our state. Seems like that was the premise. I'm not driving people away from our state. I'm simply saying I want them to understand our values. Our values of what sets us apart as New Yorkers, and if they see here and get to know people. And that's why I think when you get to know people and you start breaking down the barriers, because otherwise our country is heading into a dark place. I will always stand up for progressive values and probably do so. But I also want to reach out with a message to others that say, you're worried about your family, the cost of living, safety. Everybody's concerned about those. And I'm the person who's

going to lead this state back. So I am calling out white supremacists. I have no trouble sending my state police to investigate any area of where I think that there's hatred, where there's racism, there's bigotry. And in fact, I charged our attorney general, Tish James, after the massacre in Buffalo, to start monitoring our social media sites and finding out who else is saying what so we can prevent the next massacre. So no tolerance for that. But for those who simply feel that the Democratic Party doesn't speak to them anymore, I'm going to have the conversations and try to pull them back. But I will not try to win over the hearts and minds of someone who is so full of hatred. A governor.

You're absolutely right. There is a big difference between New York Republicans, the old school New York Republicans, and what has morphed into today. And we have to call it out for the hatred. And Governor Hochul, why do you think that... Yeah, one last question. Why do you think that Lee Zeldin has gotten so much support?

I think people are listening to a message, and I'm just out here to say it is not true. You cannot say that the crime problem will go away on day one when you refuse to take steps to get guns off the streets and protect our young people from violence in the streets. It doesn't add up. So I appreciate this opportunity because there is a billionaire funding Lee Zeldin ads, very close to Donald Trump, almost $18 million in negative ads against me. And that definitely has an effect. I'm out there working hard every day. I still have a government to run, but I'm going to be the best leader.

And I didn't come here to be the first woman elected governor. I came here to make a real difference. I don't need to make history. I want to make a difference. People will judge me by that years to come. I'm going to ask you about that. Is there an internal pressure to win this election and like have the people actually vote you in because of how, you know, you became governor now? It's not about me personally. No matter what happens, I'm still the same person. I'm still that same person who came out of Buffalo with a family that struggled, and I'm still a fighter. No matter what happens, it's not about me.

It's about the direction of this state. Does the state want to continue moving forward with someone who cherishes the rights that we fought for for so long and will protect them and not go backwards on a woman's right to choose or all the rights that we think are so important here. The fundamental right to be safe is number one. And I'm the person to protect that because I actually have a record,

not just a lot of rhetoric saying I'm going to do this, I'm going to do this. You had a chance, Lee Zeldin, to stand up and vote in Congress to support our law enforcement and to get guns off our street. You had a chance and you blew it. And I have a record where we're making a real difference. And that's the message I'm putting out to voters. And I feel good. And again, I'm a big sports fan. It's not over until you lob it into the end zone and then you can spike the football. So I'm not doing anything prematurely. But I also love this state with every heart, every fiber of my body. I love this state.

I'm going to keep being out there working for the people. All right. Well, we appreciate you for joining us. Absolutely. Thank you for coming. Governor, if you free sat, I'm having a problem with my 69 Camaro, if you know anything about those. Let me get out my toolkit. All right. It's the Governor of New York, Kathy Hochul, and we appreciate you for joining us. Make sure y'all go out there and vote.

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