The Breakfast Club - Keke Palmer’s new series Southern Fried Rice is getting absolutely dragged .. cultural appropriation ?

Episode Date: October 24, 2025

Southern Fried Rice is being called tone deaf and KeKe Palmer and Nakia Stephens have been speaking out in defense of their work. What do y’all think? YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@BreakfastClubPower1051FMSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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and this is the latest with Lauren the Rosa this is your daily dig on all things pop culture entertainment news and all of the conversations that shake the room baby now today we are going to get into a conversation that is shaking the room the internet the comments all of the things uh kiki palmer our girl is your girl kiki palmer uh kiki palmer has just unveiled a new series via her digital network called key tv and this network, you know, works with a ton of black producers, directors, writers to bring series and, you know, just different pieces of content and art to the world. This week, she premiered a trailer for a series called Southern Fried Rice from her key TV network. And when I tell y'all, it is getting

dragged. I have seen, to be honest with y'all, I wouldn't have even known that this series dropped unless I saw all of the backlash about the series itself. And granted, I knew Kiki Palmer had key tv i follow key tv on instagram but y'all know the algorithm don't be algorithming sometimes so you might not see every post and everything so i hadn't heard of this series i just knew she was you know doing stuff over there in that space because i have a a person because i have a person that i know a writer a director fire just creative a black woman named nekiah stevens and i have known her just in a work setting for some years. I actually interviewed her back in like 2020, 2021 for a short series that I had. It was during the pandemic when, you know, all the corporates were letting black people have a

voice. I had a series, a digital series at TMZ called Piece of the Pie. And it was pretty cool. I got a chance to like go out and find different creatives. So directors, casting directors, producers, executive producers, actors, musicians, painters, you know, whatever, whoever I thought was like dope fire at the time that had a story to tell or was telling stories in a way that I thought was fire in a way that I admired, I got the platformed them. So I did an interview with NKia Stevens then, which is when I knew of her was following her a bit, but she came highly recommended through some friends when I put out some casting fillers for that series. And I got a chance to have a conversation with her after i got a chance to have a conversation with her i was

like oh sis is dope like and i admired the fact that everything she was doing like she has a production company called damn right originals and i'm telling you guys about nikia stevens because nikia stevens is actually the executive producer of this series southern friday she works with kiki palmer and the team over there at key tv one of the things i admired was her company so she had a company called damn right originals that was doing so much in the digital uh storytelling space And that's always been a goal of mine. Issa Ray was one of the people that I've always looked at as like a North Star and everything that she has done via her YouTube channel, you know, an aqua black girl.

But also, for those who don't know, Issa Ray used to platform smaller series via her YouTube channel, digital series. And the kid was doing that. And she was on a ton of other things. And I was like, okay, this is dope. Like, I'm here for it. Met her then. And then she went on to begin working with Kiki Palmer, which was also fired to see because

I just knew. I'm like, okay, Kiki Palmer has the platform. Kiki Palmer is the girl. Like, you know, in all of the movies, series, the studios lover, that's a great place for Nikki to be at, period. And black creatives don't get, you know, the ample opportunities, especially not in a Hollywood, you know, movie making, TV showmaking, series making space. It just doesn't happen because they ain't telling that many of our stories. So I thought it was dope. So fast forward. I start to see all this. backlash online about this show.

And you guys know, I went to HBCU. I graduated from Delaware State University. So my algorithm, especially in October, and that's why I'm like, yo, they chose a hell of a month to drop a series about an HBCU that was going to get dragged because it's homecoming season.

So if you're not feeling blackety black, black y'all in February, you do it in October. Homecoming season, everybody's hitting up to homecomings. You know what I mean? You and your prairie, all your gear,

repping your schools. you know why you got to keep your head to the sky y'all know all the things super super black in october especially if you graduated from hbc u so the series started popping up on my feed because i started seeing people on instagram on x and on threads pissed off and having a conversation about kiki palmer saying she's tone deaf because of the series i didn't really pay too much attention to it at first if i'm being honest with y'all only because every since the you know kiki palmer's teasing that jonathan major's episode for her talk show that she does is kiki palmer in her podcast with her mom and then pulling it down.

I feel like sometimes with Kiki Palmer like she gets unfair criticism because people look at her as perfect because she is the girl. She's been, you know, pedestal and polished and not even like because it's something that she wants because if you meet her, she's just out here living her life doing her thing, working, getting her money and going home to her son. But I think the world does that because she's always presented so well. Like she's such a great actress, such an accomplished actress, you know, everything that she's ever done. We've always known her to do it so well. So the minute, Kiki Palmer does anything that is

not so well or approved, the world explodes. So I thought it was just like one of those moments. Like, okay, a moment it's happening. It'll come. It'll go. Whatever. And then I saw Kiki Palmer respond to it. I'm like, okay, this must be really big. So I did some digging, found out that Nikia Stevens was a part of the project. And I'm like, okay, let's have a conversation about this. So the series Southern Fried Rice from Key TV is a series about a Korean-American girl who is adopted by a southern black family. This girl decides that she wants to go to an HBCU. You know, the premise of this is that all of her life, she's been accepted by her small town and the people in her small town. And now she goes to this HBCU.

And I will say the HBCU is a fictional HBCU. And that is important because one thing black people don't play about is who did the body, spades. and if you renege, their HBCUs, and then when you on campus, them Greek fraternities and sororities, like, oh, and edges, and yeah, and greasing your scalp, those are the things that we ain't compromising that. So they made sure that the HBCU was fictional, which is why it's important to have black creatives telling black stories, because, yeah, that's important. But so she goes to HBCU, and, you know, while there, she's not as accepted.

And she's definitely not as accepted just because she has. a black family so she you know the story or the series is all about watching her go through that let's take a listen to the trailer all right say cheese cheese okay i know i got some explaining to do let's start with the elephant in the room yes i'm Asian yes my family's black and yes I've always been hard to miss this is cocoa college is what you make this once you make this Once you immerse yourself in the opportunities here, I'm sure that you will find W has so much to offer. I mean, to hoe or not to hell.

Don't forget who you are. Coco, Bet, Girl, Jackson. For a lot of people, this is hard to understand, but black culture is the only culture I know. Okay. Now, this is set in a, you know, present day time, and the conversation that this is supposed to spark are all things that happen in the college experience from the creators of this series,

from their perspective anyway. So, you know, it's going into the conversations about privilege, identity, DEI, SEDs, relationships, you know, all the things. It's one of those series from what it seems like, because again, it's not out. I just saw the trailer. That's it. That's all we got. But it seems like it's one of those series that uses something that it's kind of shock value

a little bit to reel you in to have very vulnerable and real conversations. about things that people are coming up against every day on these HBCU campuses or honestly I feel like you even go through those conversations and those experiences as graduates of HBCUs because once we graduate we go into the world that isn't you know all things black fried chicken Wednesdays celebratory of the culture a lot of our workspaces are not you know all black we are one of few one of many and it's kind of like a culture shock like you're in this bubble of a world for four years at a HBCU and HBCU for the those who don't know stands for historically black college or university.

And it's a celebration of like you being you and you understanding and learning in real time through education and through life experience why the world needs you and why being black is such a life-changing thing and a world-changing thing. And the campus in the school prepares you to go out into the world and just spread that glitter all over and make your mark on the world. That's the slogan of my HBCU, shout out to Delaware State University. But yes. So these conversations are, you know,

supposed to be sparked by these series, but baby, when I tell you, that is not any of the conversation that is happening online around this right now. In seeing some of the backlash on different outlets and seeing Kiki Palmer have to respond and we're going to get to Kiki Palmer's response, I then went and looked at, you know, directly what are people's direct response to this trailer? So I went to the comments on the key TV Instagram account and I'm going just read a few comments. So there's one comment under here that says in this current climate where they're snatching funding and literally trying to erase our school's question mark we have a responsibility to amplify our own stories and perspectives now more than ever and we're centering that perspective on an

Asian girl rocking bamboo earrings question mark is this not a bit tone deaf Kiki and then another comment says even if she grew up in black culture why not further explore her Asian culture it's another beautiful ethnic culture if this were reversed would it hit the same another person says Is there going to be an episode where Asian people begin demanding the destruction of affirmative action because there are too many black people at Ivy League schools and she defends them? Another comment says, I think this project seems dope. Regardless of what people may say, it is not your job to tell all the black stories hell. The people telling you to tell them ain't even spreading the word.

These stories are important too. You have a lot of people growing up outside of whatever culture they're originally from, constantly failing judged and misunderstood, and people only ever try to make sense of it from a mix. black and white person. Never seen from the point of view like this. I can't wait to watch. So, comments are in shambles under the trailer. And this has been going on for days at this point. There's, you know, full on think pieces all over threads and in X and all the spaces. So Kiki Palmer herself had to get online and respond. I did see that Nikia Stevens, who again, I told you guys as the executive producer, one of the creators behind this project. She did respond

also, but Kiki Palmer posted a video, which is being picked up by a lot of the news outlets. Let's take a listen to what Kiki Palmer had to say. I don't want to take up too much of your time, but I wanted to chop it up real quick about this series called Southern Fried Rice that's premiering on Key TV that is receiving some controversial feedback. Now, Southern Fried Rice was created by Nika Stevens, and while I can't speak to her inspiration for the show, I can speak to her dedication as a creative. I mean, Akia has written, show ran, and produced four shows alongside her damn right originals team with Key TV.

And KeyTV has proudly invested over a half a million dollars on her creations. And I say that because it's not easy to obtain that kind of investment. And Key TV, this is the ethos of the company. It's a network not just because it has stars and shows or has talent, but because it's about the people who create the shows and connecting them. Look, what you like is subjective, but the support of black creatives is not. And it's a task that KeyTV takes on with pride because if you want to be a creative, you have to be able to create. And that takes money.

And it's KeyTV's mission to find the funds for you to be in practice, for you to experience trial and error and to take your projects off the page and get more than one chance to do it in action. So whether you like it all or some or none, I say give these creatives a chance to grow as we continue to grow in supporting them. On the latest episode of Next Question with me, Katie Couric, I sat down with Bernie Sanders, who is 84 years old, has spent 34 years in Congress,

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Hi. I wanted to come on here and first and foremost say thank you so much for watching the Southern Fried Rice trailer. I'm seeing the comments. I'm seeing the support. I'm seeing the discourse. And as a storyteller, I welcome it. I welcome conversation. I welcome curiosity.

And for those of you who've been following me and supporting my journey, y'all know that Southern Frye Rice is 10 plus years in the making. And, you know, it was inspired by my own HBCU experience and observations as a student at Savannah State University, the first public HBCU in Georgia. But no, I had friends at Savannah State University and people in my orbit who were non-black and had to navigate a historically black space. And I saw how hard and challenging and fun and beautiful it was for them to do so. And that sparked my curiosity and honestly planted the seed for Southern fried rice. And obviously over the years, it has been massaged into something more deeper and nuanced. but that was ultimately the seed right and I think my ultimate goal was to spark conversation around culture around belonging and around identity and so that's what I think I've done and I'm very

proud of Southern Fried Rice furthermore I'm very proud of the people behind Southern Fried Rice other than me the people I collaborated with so a black woman director who also attended in HBCU, three producers who also attended HBCUs. Some of our cast and crew also attended HBCU. So these are people who love and protect black culture and hold it close to their hearts who were collaborating on this project. And so, yeah, I'm proud of it. And I'm also, first and foremost, I already said first and foremost, second most.

I have to say thank you to Kiki and Kee TV for a lot. allowing me the opportunities. Like, this is my fourth project with QTV. So we'll cut it there. So I think one of the important things is number one. Nikia making it very clear that she attended to HBCU and several other creators on their projects. Also went to HBCUs. And I know that a lot of Nika's work, not even a lot.

Like I would say, you know, and this is me just going off of what I see in passing. And I'm just like, you know, I'm scrolling, liking and just, you know, keeping it going. not like a die-hard, you know, avid watcher of all the Nikia's content, but Nikita Stevens and Damn Right originals, I would say at least 90% of their content and things that they focus on are black centric or black focus when it comes to storytelling, like why they're telling a story and who story they are actually telling. I mean, she's not new to it is what I'm conveying, but I wouldn't even call it a mistake because I think art is subjective and I think we also have not even watched the full series to really be able to critique it and call it some of the

things that it's being called. It's being called tone deaf. It's being called disrespectful. It's being called invasive. Like, you know, we're allowing people to just come in. People are having conversations about why don't we learn to get, keep what is ours. I think that, you know, and I would say this even if I didn't know Nikita Stevens and didn't know the work of Dan Wright originals, only because now I feel like, you know, being in a space that I'm in, I can understand how you can put something into the world and your intention and the actual messaging and your intention can be one thing, but it can hit a completely different way. And people just, you know, don't give it the chance because of that first initial hit. And then your intention and other things

you just don't get the fair shot for it to be conveyed. So I'm going to watch the full series and I'll come back here and do a full breakdown of the full series and another, you know, follow up, you know, episode and review on it once I do. But I will say, though, just off of, you know, the trailer, the premise and all the background information at all. I've collected. I do understand why people are upset. I'm not a person that's going to ever call for somebody not to be able to tell a certain story, not to be able to do a certain thing. I haven't seen the full series, so I'm not going to write it off, especially because like Kiki Palmer said, I know how hard it is just to be able to do what Nakia is doing and she does it very well. But I do

understand the upset. I want to share a personal story. When I came in a Delaware at University, my college picks in the schools that I applied to, I think I applied to maybe two or three HBCUs. I didn't really know much about HBCUs. I only knew of Delaware State because I had a mentor who is also a Delta, which is a Greek sorority, a part of the Divine Nine on HBCU campuses, was a graduate of the school. My goal was to get into like a big city school. So I wanted to go to like an NYU or USC or something like that. Temple, anything that was going to put me in a position where I could like act and model and do the things that I'm doing now. Didn't happen. Ended up at Delaware State University. And I remember the first thing,

literally like the first thing that I was told when I decided to go to Del State was, was You know you want to model and you want to work in entertainment. It's going to be so hard for you to be able to do that because, number one, you're going to be in Dover. You're going to be in the middle of nowhere. Nobody supports HBCUs and HBCU students nor those conversations around the school. People don't even think that those schools are legit. People are going to look at your degree and not think it's legit.

You're not going to be able to do things you want to do on a high level. It's going to be hard. That was the narrative that was given to me when I headed to my HBCU. I got there and hit campus and I was like, Like, I don't care about none of that. This school makes me feel good. Like, this school makes me understand my place in the world because I see all these people that look like me that have the balance between, like, I can have a good time.

I can achieve. I can do all these things. But at the same time, I'm going somewhere. And, like, I'm going to disrupt when I get there. It was just, I don't know, it's a feeling that I can't really explain. Anybody who's went to an HBCU, you understand exactly what I'm saying. But it's a very sacred and a very, like, my experience is not another HBCU students' experience. But I think we can all, we all can understand.

And I think this is why as alumni, we go so hard for our schools, that sacred I want to protect. Just keeping certain things and that experience and that connection that you're able to make with yourself and make with the fact that, like, you're black and you're needed in this world that the school gives you. You want to protect that feeling. So I'm at my HBCU. I'm doing, you know, all the things, having a great time. My senior year comes and we slowly start seeing more white people on campus.

And we used to make jokes about it. Like, we used to be like, oh, every white person we saw on campus, we used to be like, oh, they they got to be on the equestrian team. And then I remember I graduated, I graduated in 2014 from Delaware State University and came back to school now. The following year, 2015, Dale State at that time was bringing in about 4,000 new students per year and only 11% of them were white or non-black, not a big percentage, but it's a different type of life experience and feeling when you're the majority, not the minority.

So you got to still experience that. A few years passed, and I remember it was a big thing that Delaware State University had this like big, huge influx of non-black student enrollment. And there was a big discourse online about it among students, amongst alumni, because there was this feeling of like, okay, this is supposed to be ours. Like, this is supposed to be even everything down to like the music, the dances, the way that we talked to each other, the way that the teachers loved on us and spoke to us. And, you know, just the community of it all.

That is such a big thing on HBCU campus. And I think the minute that you think about, you know, bringing non-black people into that space to matriculate through that school, you get the sense and the feeling that that goes away. Now, again, I wasn't there when this happened on my campus. So I don't know what the feeling and if the feeling changed, but I can tell you how I felt watching it. I felt bad for the students that were on campus and having to come behind me. And the reason why is because I do think that there is a conversation that we never ever have as black people because we normally have to just shut up, put our head down and do. to work because we are the minority and not the majority. Your world and your life are just different when you are surrounded by your people. The way you talk, the way you hold your head,

the way you dress, the way you glow, everything is different. The minute you bring people from outside of that end, no matter where they've grown up, the type of family they've come from, how much slang they know how much hip-hop, they know anything. It's just different. You have to pull your pants up and look and walk and talk and posture yourself a different way. Being on a HBCU campus, the beauty of that, you learn that, right? You learn how to navigate in the world and protect yourself and keep yourself alive. But it's a reprieve. It's a breath of fresh air. It is a comfort space because you don't have to do it every day in your day to day like you do in the world because the world is looking at you and putting you behind the eight ball all the time instantly.

That doesn't happen on your HBCU campus. But instantly, when you begin to see others that don't look like you in this space, you do it. It's just a natural thing that we do. We call it duality or our ability the cold switch but if you think about how instantly you do that and how you've been raised all of your life if you're a black person listening to this to do that it's exhausting after a while it is very exhausting after a while and it was great to be in a space where I never had to feel that exhaustion so I felt bad for a lot of the students after me because I'm like that feeling of never having to feel that exhaustion even though they're going to be the majority versus the minority it's just going to be different so I get people's upset I also get the upset because and

one of the people that believe that we don't get key. Like, I think certain things should be kept for us. And it's okay. Like, I don't necessarily want to hear about, you know, a non-black person's experience at an HBCU because to me, being at a HBCU and being the black person who had to accept the non-black person is always like, well, why are you here? What are you here for? And why can't this just be ours?

This has all of the makeup of everything that is going to piss somebody off. And I actually hope that every single person that has had something to say about this series, both positive and negative, take the time to watch it. Because I think it's only fair. If you're going to critique something, you need to know exactly what you're critiquing and why. And we don't know that to the full extent yet. We don't know kind of how this story maps out. Don't know Nakia Super like personally, but I know her work and I can speak to her work enough to know that nothing about what she has ever done and never put out into the world was harming of us or for us and for our stories. ever that I've seen.

I want to give her, you know, the benefit of the doubt and watch it, get some full context on it. And then I'll be back to have a conversation with you guys, you know, about what I think. And I'm open to having Nakia and Kiki Palmer come on the podcast and have the conversation. I think that that would be a dope episode as well. But I think we got to give it some time. But I do think, though, that this should be a lesson to all creatives. Because what I hope, right, I hope that when I go watch this series, when you're going

to take a chance like that and there's a shock factor like seeing a non-black person at a coveted black space like an HBCU, you've got to really, really, really know what you're doing. Not even know what you're doing because Nikita knows what she's doing, but you got to really, really, really make sure as much as you can, because things are always misconstrued, but as much as you can, you got to make sure that your art is laying as close to your intention as it can be. And you're doing everything you can to make sure you get in all your points across and, you know what I mean, dot your eyes cross your tease if you are the creator because this is very

sensitive to people. For some people, HBCUs is the only space they've ever experienced that was over. okay for them to be them. And then they went into a world that was like, yo, put your head down. I'm going to humble you real quick. So it's very sensitive to us. You know what I mean? So I get it. Again, when I watch the series, it's via key TV. It is called Southern Front Rice and I'll be back with an update once I watch. This is the latest with Lauren La Rosa at the end of the day. Y'all could be anywhere with anybody having a conversation about these topics, but y'all choose to be right here with me. Lowriders, I appreciate you guys every single time and every

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