The Breakfast Club - Kevin Gates Speaks On Maintaining his Health & Wellness, Beyonce', Great Sex & More!

Episode Date: August 3, 2022

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Starting point is 00:03:30 It's DJ Envy, Angela Yee, Charlamagne Tha God. We are The Breakfast Club. We got a special guest in the building. The good brother. Kevin Gates. Welcome, brother. Thank you for having me. Man, you look good, man.
Starting point is 00:03:41 Thank you. Like, you look in shape, healthy. You got the gods going around you, man. You look good also. Thank you, brother. We haven't seen you in a long time, man. When's the last time you've been up here? Shit, like five years.
Starting point is 00:03:52 How's everything been, brother? How are you feeling? How are you? You want me to be honest? Yes. It's been an amazing journey. It's been difficult, but I feel amazing. That's the most important thing.
Starting point is 00:04:03 What made you want to get into your fitness journey, man? It go with the spiritual. Mind, body, soul connection. And then I come from a place of doing a lot of drugs and not being self-accountable, not holding myself accountable for things and past traumatic experiences that I went through. I was really operating out of fear.
Starting point is 00:04:23 Not to just go down that, but the first time I ever spoke about this was with the Mike Tyson interview. I was talking about, like, I'm a great father. I'm not a big stepper. Like, the violence that I exhibited was because I was molested when I was young. So that's what made me just operate out of fear. I had that fear of being vulnerable. You know, I took all these different styles of martial arts, you know, weaponry, all of these things. But I was operating out of a place of fear because even though I'm tough, you still got that fear of being vulnerable.
Starting point is 00:04:55 It's something that a lot of men don't speak on. But I had read this book by, I think his name is Mr. Jason Wilson. Yeah, yeah, yeah, Cry Like a Man. Yeah, that's my homie i love it and i was and he was like men are supposed to be nurturers also we great protectors great fathers but nurturers also and it was like yeah it's like society wants you to just be tough and don't never you know but i was like i cried two three times a day sometimes. I'm working out, doing yoga and things of that nature because you have to release or you'll implode. And then I'm real conscious of, like, my words, like what I say to people.
Starting point is 00:05:33 I make sure, even if I'm hurting your feelings, I make sure I say it out of a place of love because I just, I've been hurt, so now I operate out of a place where I don't like to see people hurt. You know, because there's always a back story. That's like when I watched the movie The Joker I don't like to see people hurt. Because there's always a back story. That's like when I watched the movie The Joker, I was like, this is sad. Yeah, because you see how somebody ends up in that position.
Starting point is 00:05:53 We project pain on the people. We project our own pain on the other people. I was going to ask, was that book got you to open up? Or did you see therapy? Oh, no, sir. What got you to open up? You want me to be honest? Absolutely honest. I don't think you know any other way to be, Mr. what got you to open up? You want me to be honest? Absolutely honest.
Starting point is 00:06:05 I don't think you know any other way to be, Mr. Gates. I mean, I don't want to trigger nobody. No, be honest. Odyssey helps. We all know when I was 17, I believe, I had shot myself in the head. I tried to commit suicide. I still have the bullet in my head. And then 2020, I believe, I was going to push my shit out again yeah so you say that on big fat
Starting point is 00:06:28 I got off Instagram I did all of that I got disconnected my Instagram got off social media and I was by myself and just in through the course of events like I don't want to talk about it because to trigger nobody but absolutely I was gonna kill myself I wasn't happy and I don't do all that hey I'm about to throw a big parade about it I'm gonna just do it in silence Cuz I let talking that's horse plan. If you're gonna do it. Hey, let's get it done. I About to bolt myself to the floor. What got you out of it? What made you stop once I got off Instagram? I was making a lot of comparisons because I put in so much work to be an amazing artist
Starting point is 00:07:04 But you never celebrate it properly, you know, especially when you're a man. And I'm not no alpha male advocate or no, I ain't with all that dumb ass shit. I believe it take balance. You know, like I ain't with that, a woman gonna do what I say. I ain't with that silly ass shit. This ain't no toxic masculinity. Sacred, masculine, divine feminine. You talking about the whole of divine feminine and the sacred masculinity that's god that's right how you know about that hey what you talking about man so anyway you talking to a person that i always make sure i try to destroy my ego before i walk in any room well i never really had an ego but my ego was fear
Starting point is 00:07:43 protection like protecting myself and protecting the things around me, operating out of fear. So back to that story. So just during the course of events, me getting off Instagram, started making comparisons because comparisons is the killer of all joy. People show their highlight reel. DJ Envy pulling up in Ferraris. But his home life might be straight bullshit, but he making it look good.
Starting point is 00:08:04 And it's like you compare your real life and all the problems you got to somebody's highlight reel and that shit caused depression so I got off social media for like a year and a half and I just started living and I saw that man the streets love me everywhere I go people love me people love me for real like New York a hard city to be an artist and get love and everywhere I go these people love me. People love me for real. Like New York, a hard city to be an artist and get love in. Everywhere I go, these people love me in the streets. These people love me everywhere I go, though. Everywhere I go,
Starting point is 00:08:31 everybody love me, and I had to realize, hold on, man, I gotta reaffirm some things with myself. I had to get out my own way. Man, I'm gonna recommend this book to you. Hey, I got a question. If I was to bring the copy of your book up here, would you sign it for me? Of course, Kevin.
Starting point is 00:08:49 This is what you need to read. Ego is the enemy. Trust me. I carry it with me. Trust me. I know. I know. I love how you talk about it, though.
Starting point is 00:08:56 And the reason that, you know, it might be triggering to some, but for some it helps. So, like I did, I was the same way with you. I was five seconds away from shooting myself, too. And it's because I didn't think I was worthy. That's right. Of my house, of my wife, of my kids, of my family. We only feel as good as what we could do for somebody. But what helped me is when I spoke about it.
Starting point is 00:09:16 And I saw so many other people were in that same position. And they got me and walk up to me every day and cry. Every day. If I'm in the gym, gym man thank you for being so transparent like don't nobody talk about this i'm talking about bodybuilder super big and i could tell that you doing this out of frustration or whatever you're doing that out of so i changed the way that i even approached the gym now when i go i go to make myself feel good i go to put positive energy in my body i did yoga before i came up here. I got to open myself up and feel positive.
Starting point is 00:09:47 Get the blood flowing and put positive energy into my body before I move. Because anybody, I'm just big on that. I don't even entertain. Me, it's no negativity because that's still consumption. Absolutely. So what's the process now before you write, when you do your music? I go jogging for like 20 minutes because I'm addicted to that.
Starting point is 00:10:06 It's like once the endorphins release, it's like I'm high. Like I like to feel good. Like I like to feel good. I want a feeling. I crave that feeling and feeling good. Like how do I feel? Like if I don't feel good, I'm not doing it.
Starting point is 00:10:20 Like just before I came in here, I said, hold on, I got to go take a shit that's going to make me feel better. That's real. I only eat one meal a day. So after, you know, I drink my hot tea in the morning or hot water with lams, everything come out.
Starting point is 00:10:35 Now I'm ready. I'm ready for work. You know, I wanted to ask you, man, because you know, I go to therapy once a week. I've been doing it for like six years. But therapy is not everybody's form of healing. So what else do you do to like, what do you do on your healing journey? I had to get by myself. Okay. And one of the biggest
Starting point is 00:10:51 things I do, I keep self inventory. I write down the things that I'm feeling, whatever it is, and I go back and answer them questions. I talk to myself. I used to think I was weird for doing it. Then I read that all geniuses talk to themselves. I'm in tune with myself then I read that all geniuses talk to themselves I'm in tune with myself. I can be alone. Is it difficult? It is a
Starting point is 00:11:14 Lot of people can't be alone with themselves. They gotta watch TV or play music to keep themselves distracted Because it's a lot of things that we suppress That's like when I got this yoga pose called a pigeon pose. I never knew nothing about no emotional detoxing. What nigga you know walk around talking about, man, you need an emotional detox? We got taught that. That's real. I was doing a pigeon pose just to open my hips up more. Like, okay, this is going to give you more strength in the gym. But I'm looking at it for the strength aspect,
Starting point is 00:11:36 and it was so healing because I started crying right there uncontrollably. She put her hands on my back. She say, a lot of what you're feeling right now is not your own. It's psychic debris. You're having an emotional detox right now. Just breathe into the pose. Breathe. She say, a lot of the anger and frustration and emotions are harbored in the gut and in the hips.
Starting point is 00:11:59 I never knew this. So I emotionally detoxed before I came up here because I don't want to project. Even with my son, he told me something one day, and I, man, what is you? Hold on, I'm handling him bad. This unchecked aggression. Like, if I'm not in tune with myself, if I'm not happy, I can't make my children happy.
Starting point is 00:12:20 I can't be the man I'm supposed to be for my family if I got inner turmoil going on. That's real. What got you into yoga? I got into it in prison. And on my last bid, it was a blessing. I got into it. But at first, when I was presented with the opportunity to do yoga, I'm like, man, I'm not about to do that pussy ass shit.
Starting point is 00:12:42 You go in there and bent over. I ain't got time to be doing that shit. know i was just you know you judge it because you don't understand it correct my first class maybe two minutes into it i had to run to the bathroom and just shit everything got my battery he said you're releasing everything that's not that's no longer serving your high yourself so i just started experimenting with yoga and gym, and I noticed, I'm like, this curbs my appetite. This makes me don't want to eat. You focusing on your breath. You focusing on yourself.
Starting point is 00:13:11 This person may be able to stretch way better than you, but guess what? Everybody is on their own individual journey. That's right. So it kind of teach you to not compare, and it also teach you to, even though situations may get rough or tense, you just breathe through it and work through it and the reward been in the journey I ain't trying to get to no destination. I'm I'm loving a journey right now
Starting point is 00:13:34 It's a good time to meditate too. And then if you ever have like back pains and things like that though It's like very intense stretching. So it really helps like your whole body. Just feel More I'm kind of nice with yoga I saw your inked feature I'm kind of nice I did that here in New York and I never saw myself doing no shit like this mm-hmm I'm too gangster for that you know what I'm saying I never saw myself doing is like I'm amazed they're just watching my journey but that's why these conversations are so powerful coming from you cuz I saw you on big facts podcast and I was like,
Starting point is 00:14:06 man, Kevin is talking that talk. He talking that talk that brothers need to hear to heal. Yes, sir. And you also have a shaman. I saw you say that, too. A shaman? Yeah. My tattoo artist?
Starting point is 00:14:18 Yeah, he like my shaman. I call him my shaman because he's a spiritual advisor. He's a guide. He's shamanistic in nature because he's not gonna put nothing on me that the energy not aligning with and Sometimes he'll be like I can't do it and other times we just we pray So we burn sage and he do my tattoo everything I've been through in my life. It's tattooed on me. It's a journey It's a lot of people that done me dirty. I got their faces on me. But guess what?
Starting point is 00:14:47 I still love you because you was a great lesson. Anything that happened in my life, good or bad, has been a great teacher to me. So it's about changing the perspective. Go back to that. Revisit the situation that hurt you. What did you learn from it? And attach a positive emotion to it.
Starting point is 00:15:04 And I know it sounds easier than done. But you got emotion to it and i know this is sound it's sound easier than done because you got to go back and relive this shit and you you know what i'm saying but once you go back and you relive it you realize that this was on the gladiator school to train me for the next level and what you said is key though you said here like there's no destination to healing it's a constant journey healing's not linear at all it's a journey like i'm i'm in love with the journey like all my friends at first they were like there you go with this whole healthy ass shit but they starting to get in tune without your friends and your family and your queen like because your journey has changed when it first started
Starting point is 00:15:39 when it first started it was a lot of resistance because it's alien to people. I'm exhibiting alien behavior. It's unknown. It's foreign. And I didn't know what I was doing, but I had to follow my heart because I never wanted to sit and watch TV and say,
Starting point is 00:15:54 you know what? What if I never would have tried? That would be my biggest regret. And I had everything taken from me in 2016. I was innocent over a lie, nominated for a Grammy's, all of that. But it was beautiful because this time I'm even helping more people. But I harbored a lot of resentment toward that. I'm like, man, why I keep getting looked over?
Starting point is 00:16:17 I do nothing but great shit. But then when somebody else emulate what I do, the world slap them on the ass and applaud. Like, why don't nobody notice me? Because it wasn't my time yet. I wasn't ready to receive these blessings. These blessings wasn't denied. They was just delayed.
Starting point is 00:16:32 So now I'm receiving my blessings. You think that comes from not having a sense of worthiness for yourself? So if you don't have a sense of worthiness or love for yourself, it's hard to recognize it from others. Big brother, I'm going to be honest with you. I crushed so many relationships out of ego. I closed so many doors just operating out of my ego. So, well, it was people that saw something great in me and reached for me.
Starting point is 00:16:56 And I got in my own way. I can say that. I'm going to be honest. People be like, so why you ain't never worked with no other artists? I just started reaching out. But in in the beginning it was pride and fear a rejection hmm what did he say no mm-hmm and that's all you can do is say no hey let's work and then guess what Kevin you were artists you be busy hey I let me when you free and then you got also realize everybody not made to co-create
Starting point is 00:17:23 sometimes you could be so powerful in your truth that just a person standing on side of you exposed them for who they really is. They can't stand on side of you because you would expose them. You the truth. I'm my authentic self every day. However I feel, I'm going to say it no filter. It's just me. Now you said something earlier, right?
Starting point is 00:17:42 What I said? You said something that, you know, when you say something, you say it from the heart. I mean it. With all due respect, out of love. If it could be hurting to somebody, you don't mean to hurt somebody. My sister, don't kill me if you watching,
Starting point is 00:17:55 but she, it was a situation went on with her, and she flashed out. We having an argument. She's like, you just don't know your words hurt people. I wish I'd have never people i wish i'd never i wish i'd just let him go ahead and do that to me i was like then i found out she had took a bunch of pills and just wanted to really end her life based on the things that i was saying that was hurtful but i'm hurt she been hurt so like we breaking
Starting point is 00:18:24 generational curses right now. Please don't kill my... I ain't trying to put nobody in your business. But I had ended up taking care of something for her. You know, it's nothing to be spoke about. It just was what it was. But just in her saying that, I would think you would be grateful that I stopped it.
Starting point is 00:18:40 She was like, I should have just not even called you. Da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da. And it's years later after that, because your words hurt people. And I'm like, damn. So now I make sure if I hurt your feelings, I'm going to do it with pure intentions. I love you, but I love me more. I got to protect my energy. That's not a crime.
Starting point is 00:19:00 Now, I wanted to ask you. We had a big discussion about this when you said it on the radio, right? What'd I said? When you were talking about Miss B, talking about another man's wife. Yeah, what I said? What was it? I forgot. Something that you would do if you were in that situation.
Starting point is 00:19:16 I forgot. Could you say it? I wish we had the audio. I don't know exactly what it is. Miss B. I don't want to quote you. Talk about Beyonce. What about it?
Starting point is 00:19:22 I remember that. You know what you said. Oh, I forgot. Yeah, I don't remember the details you. It's about Beyonce. What about it? I remember that. You know what you said. I forgot. Yeah, I don't remember the details. Whatever it was said. Could you make me remember? I don't remember. I don't want to Google it.
Starting point is 00:19:33 I don't remember. I don't want to quote you. I don't want to misquote. I don't want to misquote. The media do that, though, but that's one of the most beautiful women in the world. I can't be a fan? Yes, you can. I can't be a fan?
Starting point is 00:19:44 Absolutely can. I'm sitting in a trap? Yes, you can. I can't be a fan? Absolutely can. I'm sitting in a trap house around the monsters just looking at TV just, man, I swear to God. When I said that, everybody feel like that. They just scared to say it.
Starting point is 00:19:54 I ain't scared to say it. What is respect for another man's wife? What is respect for another man's wife? I said respectfully. I don't mean respectfully. I said respectfully.
Starting point is 00:20:02 I meant it without the respect. Word. Oh, I think it was I don't even want to have this conversation. But I was just asking. Of course, if somebody said that about your lady, your queen,
Starting point is 00:20:14 your wife at the time. You supposed to feel good. You supposed to fantasize about what I got. Nigga, I'm living your dreams every night. Yeah, I'm punching dick in her living your dreams. What? I don't want nothing that nobody nobody else want I get that's like if Angela you and my lady I'm not trying I'm only being illustrative if that's a word that's fine yeah I'm if you my lady now
Starting point is 00:20:35 and I know all y'all just y'all want my woman I'm about to walk up and give you a big hug and grip that ass in front of me I don't care right but but somebody that's not on your same playing field saying, I will fuck the shit out of you and whatever, whatever, whatever it may be. Stick my talon in your ass and twirl it around like a helicopter. I do all that. Pull a nipple up. I do all that
Starting point is 00:20:55 to my wife. What's up? So you wouldn't feel the way if another man said that about your wife? I wouldn't give a fuck. I don't care about what nobody think about me or what nobody say. I live life every day. And you still wouldn't have the same respect for that individual? I wouldn't give a damn. I'm living your dreams,
Starting point is 00:21:12 nigga. You saluting me. I believe that Kevin Gates is also freakier than the average guy. You saluting me. You want to do all this to who? To what I got? Oh, I'm pressure, man. And you would still respect that individual the same way?
Starting point is 00:21:27 Still speak to the same way? We could still do a song with each other. We still good. I mean, if you speak to me, I'll speak to you. You know, me and Greek men, I don't know what you got going on today. See, y'all invited me here. I'm not going to go nowhere I'm not invited. That's real. So if somebody invite me somewhere, then yeah, I'm a, you know, I'm a gangster and a gentleman. How you doing,
Starting point is 00:21:44 beloved? You know, I'm going to greet you humble. That's it. Men greet men. You know, you said some other shit too that, on a song, shoot my shot.
Starting point is 00:21:54 Now, hold on, hold on. This was interesting too. I knew it was coming. Hold on, because I got to bring this up. They buttered me up
Starting point is 00:22:00 with all of the positivity. You know the show. Now, most guys would be intimidated by a situation like this, right? What kind of situation? Shoot my shot. You said that. I don't remember because you. Yes, I'm going to tell you right now. I have no recollection of that matter.
Starting point is 00:22:15 Because I'm going to mention this just because we did on lip service, we had AJ Johnson on and she was talking about how she was with two guys and it turned into this whole thing where people were like condemning her for it. And she had to actually come back on to defend herself about a situation that she had but she was like look i you know i don't mind i would actually like to fuck a girl and have another guy like you know like a threesome and like my homie you know just be able to do that and i won't look at her no different you can't do that with no anybody you gotta have somebody
Starting point is 00:22:43 that's gonna respect that woman like you respect that woman. Right. Like, even the way that we issue dick to her, like, it's a lot of women that love that, but they have a fear of being judged. I ain't gonna cap it. The way you say it,
Starting point is 00:22:59 you say punch dick and issue dick. I'm using both of those. Oh, God. I'm issuing some dick to that. I'm using both of those. Oh, God. I'm issuing dick to that. I'm issuing some dick. But no, go ahead. Go ahead. Because I feel like that's a taboo thing.
Starting point is 00:23:10 And people look at it. What's taboo? They'll say like, oh, she got a train ran on her. Or that happened. Instead of it being a concern. OK. When you go. See, you listening at people that don't even know who they are.
Starting point is 00:23:21 They're not even comfortable with their sexuality. You don't even know who you are. You don't even know what you like. How can I listen to somebody that don't know what they like, tell me're not even comfortable with their sexuality. You don't even know who you are. You don't even know what you like. How can I let somebody that don't know what they like tell me what's wrong and what's right for me? Hey, what you eat don't make me shit, and what I eat don't make you shit. But if a woman, I talk to women.
Starting point is 00:23:37 I'm talking about up in rank, having businesses and everything, and they just, I just, Kevin, I just love the way you just slut me out. Just, yes, they love that. I just feel free when I'm with you. No judgment. Yeah, baby, no judgment.
Starting point is 00:23:51 People go through shit. How you think I got this good? Because practice don't make you perfect. Practice only makes you better. I tell everybody that. So, like I say, if a woman had been with a lot of people, you know what? You got field credentials. I'm not, I'm not, that's like I say, if a woman had been with a lot of people, you know what? You got field credentials. I'm not.
Starting point is 00:24:07 I'm not. That's like Charlemagne dick. Charlemagne dick. Two inches longer than mine. We both still hitting that bone. I'm in your stomach. If a woman say I'm not in her stomach, she hating on me. That was the problem.
Starting point is 00:24:20 I see y'all making me. Y'all with that boy. I want to know. What do you say no to in the bedroom? Because I feel like there's no holds barred. What are some things that you're like, I ain't doing that? That somebody's asked you to do? Don't nobody ask me to do nothing because I'm such a pleaser. Like, I get off on that's like
Starting point is 00:24:46 this car right here. Do we separate? Okay, you got this car right here. You know, somebody else done probably washed this car, but this is my dream car. So I'm going to detail this car intricately. I'm going to be, I'm going to put
Starting point is 00:25:02 my everything into it. And a woman better know when you aiming to please her. A woman better know if you're doing this selfishly. A woman better know if you're doing this with gratitude. And guess what? I'm thankful for you right now because this is a whole blessing. That's real. I pray and everything before I have sex.
Starting point is 00:25:19 This is spiritual. My dick wouldn't get hard if it wasn't without the permission of the creator. So I'm going to pray before I do this. I'm going to make it sacred because guess who know about it? Business is between those who make it. That's right. You know, you got the song Thinking With My Dick with Juicy J. How does a
Starting point is 00:25:36 man not think with his dick? Kevin's like, damn, this all is so positive. We was on a question. We talking about music. Let me find out y'all been plotting on this, Kevin. How does a man not think with his dick? You want me to be honest? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:25:50 That glow that you say you see and that aura, that presence that you feel when I walk in the room, a lot of people are going to talk against this, but this comes from semen retention and discipline. Like, if I wake up in the morning, they call it morning wood. Some men wake up, dick be hard. You know, you could choose to it's a choice. You could choose to put a sock on your dick and beat it and shoot your precious life force in a
Starting point is 00:26:16 sock. Or you could choose to get up and put that energy into your workout. You could take your sexual cravings and translate that energy into something else. And it shows it shows you can translate that energy like you can have practice semen retention and something else that I've noticed since I've been on this journey I've been practicing about maybe three and a half years and it is times that I have wet dreams cuz anything that needs to come out you, it's going to come out.
Starting point is 00:26:45 I have wet dreams. Don't watch porn at all. Don't even watch porn. Don't. Don't even feed that to your man. I'm talking about put it into your music. The energy going to be different. Everybody that meet me now say, man, your energy is so different now because I'm translating it.
Starting point is 00:27:00 Even when I'm around women, they tell me, you know what? You talk about a lot of sexuals Related topics in your songs. I say you know how I say because I abstain and I put my cravings into the music Yeah, and when I catch you guess what I'm not gonna play with you But I don't get creep energy from you because I don't look at women objectively. This is a blessing We've met you imagine a bedroom. Have you ever met your match in the bedroom? I met somebody really close.
Starting point is 00:27:29 That's a wild question. I'm going to tell you something. Please don't ever ask that question again. No, because he talks about it. I'm going to tell you something. I haven't met my match, but I met somebody that's really close. And the reason I say she really, really close, oh, God, don't kill me. She got acne in her face. I know this is going to sound crazy. The reason I say she really, really close, oh, God, don't kill me.
Starting point is 00:27:47 She got acne in her face. I know this is going to sound crazy. I know this is going to sound crazy. A lot of women with acne in their face got good pussy because their hormones are so imbalanced that it caused them to have congestion. So they're not releasing properly. See, once I started really just caught in I really put it on her her face start cleaning Up because a lot of time we break out you notice we have back acne developed due to what stress and things of that nature I'm not saying all women with acne guys when they get eczema all anything with the skin
Starting point is 00:28:17 Yeah, but a lot of a lot of the things that go on with us are really internally I'm not just saying it for that, but she up there. She in my top three. That's good, man, because there's a lot of women out there with acne, and they got insecurities because of the acne, but you just gave us another perspective. I'm so serious. Like a woman with a little bit of congestion,
Starting point is 00:28:39 a little bit of acne on her face, them be the ones. I'm talking about pussy good. So you don't like the makeup Soaking wet For me Yeah You don't want to see a girl with makeup You want to see her in her natural form
Starting point is 00:28:49 No more facials For what? So you can see the acne Because if she covered up with the makeup You won't see it Oh You can just see acne with makeup I'm going to say this
Starting point is 00:28:56 I just I'm not a big fan of makeup I like a woman in a natural state Because sometimes my skin And shit get congested If I eat the wrong things Anything I put in my body is going to show up
Starting point is 00:29:06 in my face. That's dietary related. I notice when I fast for about seven days, don't eat nothing, just juice, man, my skin look like glass,
Starting point is 00:29:14 porcelain. All right. It just is something internal, but I just noticed that with her, like in a few women that I done ran across
Starting point is 00:29:21 with acne, pussy good. You know, I want to talk about great USDA certified Yes, Lord speaking of the music. I appreciate the fact you did by my lonely by speaking knockers over man You know where you from? Yeah, South Carolina. All right from the same place. Well, he from Columbia I'm from most corner, but his mama his mama good like Yeah He from Columbia. I'm from Moss Corner, but. His mama, like, a really, really good woman. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:29:45 Like, I started listening to him in jail, and it was always, like, my dream to, like, work with him. And he had died before I came home. Yep. I started communicating with him, like, four months before he passed away. I'm from South Carolina. Yes, sir. Yes, sir.
Starting point is 00:29:58 I love that place. That's home. What made you want to do that? Just because you was a fan of his music? Yeah, I was a fan of him. Word. And I always say that, like, at my concerts, before I bring the song, I'll be like,
Starting point is 00:30:07 Speaker Knockers, I love you forever. Because I do. Like, I never got a chance to meet you, but I met you. Like, Mama Knockers, she just, she loved me. Now, you know what I wanted to ask you about? Your relationship with Dreeka, because there's been a lot of speculation online. So how is everything?
Starting point is 00:30:23 Man, let them speculate. I don't answer no. I don't do that with the internet. Let them say what they want to say about me. I don't care. They say all kinds
Starting point is 00:30:32 of negative things about me. Because then you see her, she still know all the lyrics to all the songs on the album. She posting that. It look like she love me. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:30:40 And I love her. That's it. Like, what else? Like, why does my life, why does it matter? People be, I just want to know. I just know, listen,
Starting point is 00:30:50 you living by casually through somebody else. You looking at my life for your source of entertainment. My life is not your source of entertainment. Last time I checked, I'm grown.
Starting point is 00:31:00 I'm a real nigga. I do what I want. I'm just saying, I just what I want I'm just saying I just say that because I get asked that question so much why does it matter either you love me
Starting point is 00:31:10 or you don't either you gonna you gonna hate me for who I am and love me for who I am you never gonna love me for who I'm not so why does it matter
Starting point is 00:31:19 I think for that situation because y'all were so entwined with each other we still is entwined how do we know they not I know I know we still entwined with each other. We still is entwined. How do we know they're not? I know, I know. We still entwined. When people don't see something, they always, well, why?
Starting point is 00:31:28 What happened? You know, people are nosy. But they'll see you with somebody else, and then they'll be like, oh, he's doing this and doing that. Did you see me nailing somebody else? No, no. Or you just seen me with somebody else? No, no.
Starting point is 00:31:37 You ain't seen me pin that to the floor? You seen me punching that dick in somebody else? Oh, my God. You saw me issuing dick to somebody else? You seen me issuing dick? There you go. I can't even. I can't even. But I'm
Starting point is 00:31:49 just saying it's a true statement. Listen, let's go off statistics. I'm going to say all of the women I ran across with that little acne in their face been pressure. Real pressure. And they had an insecurity about that acne. Girl, come on. Lick your little bumps. You being pressure. Real pressure. And they had
Starting point is 00:32:05 an insecurity about their acne. Girl, come on. Leak your little bumps. You better stop playing with me. What did you think about Nick Cannon's comments that 80% of all women don't know how to properly clean their vaginas? I ain't gonna say 80%, but it's a high percentage rate. But I'm gonna say
Starting point is 00:32:21 this. It's not they fault. They never been taught we forced into a society where the mama might have had to been a daddy and a mom in a relationship you got so many single-parent households you know I thank God I had a grandmother you know that taught me and raised me and loved me taught me how to clean all behind my ears you know a woman not supposed to put no soap on they or it don't even supposed to go in there. It cleans itself. You clean it internally. You can't, nothing external adds value.
Starting point is 00:32:51 You clean yourself up from the inside out, not the outside in. So as far as cleaning yourself properly, a lot of people don't even use wash rags. They don't even scrub their epidermis, their old layer of skin off. You know what I'm saying? That's white people. It's just not taught. Yeah. You can't fault them that they don't know whoever they are. I know niggas that don't.
Starting point is 00:33:10 I know niggas that's like Jason. I'm talking about real killers but scared to get in the water. Damn. I know niggas like that. Yeah. Just real trolls. It's not they fault, it's just they don't know no better. So you can't be mad at them if they never been shown properly how to clean themselves.
Starting point is 00:33:27 You know, cleanliness is next to godliness. I don't even feel right to the shop before I came here. I saw you on stage, too, and you was telling the crowd, like, y'all don't love me, based on, I guess, the reception to your album. So what were your expectations? No, I didn't say that. What was it? No, I didn't say that like that. I just asked them, what, y'all don't love me?
Starting point is 00:33:42 Oh, I thought it was because of the album. No, the album. You know, I don't measure that off numbers. I just ask them, which I don't love me. Oh, I thought it was because of the album. No, the album. You know how, I don't measure that off numbers, schmumbers. Okay. You know how I know the album doing good? Because everywhere I go in the street, like I don't tell them I'm popping up over here. I hear that Kazza album playing. It's healing the world right now.
Starting point is 00:33:58 Right, right, right. I spoke on subject matters that no rappers even touch. You got from the young to the old, it's gems in there for everybody. It's healing the world. Because my son don't learn through, he don't learn through education. He learn through edutainment. I make his learning fun for him.
Starting point is 00:34:17 And that's how he learn, because he hands on. Like, I can't sit in no class like this all day. That's real. What you want me to be a zombie? That's real I want to be hands on and experienced Teach me, show me
Starting point is 00:34:29 Why don't you do more? Why don't you come and like We haven't seen you in five, six years Man you don't want me up here bro That's that industry talk That's that industry talk We tried to get you up here last time And we couldn't buddy
Starting point is 00:34:38 Somebody in his team at Corby That's what it was Anytime you want to come I don't want to stay with like I don't think you understand People heal from the words that you. That's what it was. Anytime you want to come, I don't want to stay with like... I don't think you understand. People heal from the words that you say. That's right. That's the most important thing. The music, yes, of course, but
Starting point is 00:34:51 people heal from your words. And the music. You know what I mean? Watching that Big Facts podcast, I was like, man, we in a different time where Brothers is really embracing the healing process. I love Kendrick's album. I love your project. West Side Boogie, all of these Brothers talking about healing and brothers is really embracing the healing process. I love Kendrick's album. I love your project. You know,
Starting point is 00:35:06 a West side boogie, like all of these brothers talking about healing and therapy. We haven't told you though. Anytime. Yeah. No, I never told me no, but you know what?
Starting point is 00:35:15 I did want to ask you when we, since we're talking about healing, PTOE, right. And you talk about protect me from my friends. And several times you do discuss having friends and people close to you that have betrayed you financially. A lot of times it is is how do you heal and move on from that and is there ever any conversations of forgiveness because you said you just they just can't get in touch with you
Starting point is 00:35:34 i'm gonna be honest with you sometime when you forgive people it's not to rectify the affair or get the matter resolved it's to resolve the matter internally. I'm forgiving you for me, not for you. I'll probably never deal with you again, but I forgive you. But it just showed me I can't be looking for myself inside of other people, and we do that a lot of times. I can't expect you to be the
Starting point is 00:35:58 way I'm built, because I'm cut from a band down. A lot of these dudes cut from shit paper. So I can't expect you to be like me and i understand that and i respect it i just know how far to go with you know hey like trusting people is scary it's scary like you have a conversation i got a question like you have a conversation with somebody and it's supposed to be in private but mad they come they add your dirty lunch route like that's not platinum nope
Starting point is 00:36:25 that's not platinum and then it kind of puts you in a shed make you well I can't even say what I want to say for fear that
Starting point is 00:36:32 they might hey you know what guess what I'm transparent anyway bitch say what you want about me I don't even entertain
Starting point is 00:36:37 I wasn't made for everybody to like what has impacted your life man more what has impacted your life more Islam or hip hop
Starting point is 00:36:44 um you know I'm gonna tell you something to be honest What has impacted your life, man? What has impacted your life more, Islam or hip-hop? You know, I'm going to tell you something, to be honest, since you speaking about that. And I mean this with all due respect. The people that hurt me the most is my own people. Like, they hurt me the most by my own people. Like, they hurt me the most, but my own people. People that look like me. Like, it's a lot of Muslims that love me, but it's also a lot of Muslims that judge me. You can't have tattoos.
Starting point is 00:37:15 That's haram. This, this, that. Haram, that means forbidden. You can't do this and this. Man, you know who helped me, like, really get back on my feet since my last tour? It's been Jews and transgenders. Like, the people that the world would say is the worst people, them the people that helped me.
Starting point is 00:37:31 Like, I'm doing business. They bring, like, I got a partner here, Jew. He bringing me coffee deals and all of this. We doing all these investments. This lady, she a transgender. She say, baby, you can use my warehouse if you want to. Put all your merch in there. Just gave me the warehouse. Man, the words, baby, you can use my warehouse if you want to. Put all your merch in there. Just gave me the warehouse, man. The words you say,
Starting point is 00:37:47 they speak to my spirit. I love who you are. I love what you stand for. It be the people that the world say is the most worst people, fucked up people on earth been the people that helped me. And it's my own people that judge me and kick me when I'm down and I always got something negative to say about me.
Starting point is 00:38:03 Always in my business. Keep my name and mess like, like then they say black lives matter and get mad when I'm down. And I always got something negative to say about me. Always in my business. Keep my name and mess like, like then they say black lives matter and get mad when I don't support it. Who they matter to? We kill each other all day. Who they matter to? We talk behind each other back. We always,
Starting point is 00:38:16 what the fuck? Like I told God, man, I hate to say it. I mean, it's what I do. Respect. Hey,
Starting point is 00:38:21 look, if I got to come back a nigga, I just wait till something else come available, big dog. I don't even want to be no nigga. Really? Everybody want to be a nigga till the time to be one. I just. Well, you a black god, though.
Starting point is 00:38:33 Nigga is what the white man told us we were. Nah, nigga mean king. That's what they say. Nah, that's what it is. Nigga, nigga, nigga. That's why you hear me say B-O-N, big old nigga. That mean king. We was taught wrong.
Starting point is 00:38:45 We was taught wrong. We was taught wrong. Yeah, nigga mean king. Big old nigga. I got that nigga. I'm a big old nigga. There's nothing I can't go through and adapt and adjust and become greater. But that's where most of my problems don't come from. Other people come from niggas.
Starting point is 00:39:02 That's who judge me. That's who kick me when I'm down. But that's also who supports you, too. But we also got to try to... I'm going to be honest with you. I can't say it's just niggas that support me. You know what it is that support me? Real people.
Starting point is 00:39:16 I don't look at that like that. I look at it as real people and fake people. Real people do real things. Fake people do fake shit. And you never know who your blessing going to come through so you can't judge. That's true. Don't you believe there's a white supremacist system that created, that put us in this position to even be the way we are to each other sometimes?
Starting point is 00:39:35 They say that, but I ain't shit. I got a good heart. I try to help niggas. I get shitted on every time. Think about how you were before the healing process. There's a bunch of brothers and sisters that support you. Yeah, real people. It's real people and fake people.
Starting point is 00:39:50 And I ain't trying to be controversial with that shit, but it's real people and fake people. But the people that really kick me when I'm down be the people that look like me. The people that judge me be the people that look like me. That's why I think God's using you as a vessel now to help people heal. I hope somebody hear this and realize that man
Starting point is 00:40:06 Look, hey It's like I can't do no I can't do no right. I started get ridiculed talked about kicked in my ass for nothing for what? Every time I mean, I'm trying to admit this type of emotion, but man this shit hurt. This shit hurt homie I feel you like I asked I asked in one interview, I say man, you know, I ain't even make contact with that girl in Florida. You got on the stand and lied on me. A nigga.
Starting point is 00:40:35 Like, and I love you, cause maybe God used you for me to go through this transition. I wouldn't be who I am now, so I attached that positive energy to it, but I had harbored a lot of resentment from them. They all took me from my children. Over a $400 fine. Y'all gave me six
Starting point is 00:40:50 months for that. When it's time for me to come home? Illinois say you got a warrant. What you know about having your heart broke like that? Get to Chicago, Jill. You know I'm doing my bid, middle of my bid. Your brother just got murdered. What you know about having your heart broke like that? I could keep going heart broke like that i could keep going but like i could keep going i was destroyed on the inside man
Starting point is 00:41:11 this shit hurt like so of course i get emotional just thinking about it like it's like i can't do no right you're doing a lot but with the people that's like when i say real people it's real people and fake people it's just that's how i look when I say real people, it's real people and fake people. It's just, that's how I look at life. I can't go through this with it and attach myself to no. But you'd be surprised how many people you're helping right now by having this conversation. Just by having this conversation. Yeah, like, I mean. Living the way you living.
Starting point is 00:41:35 I mean, I mean, I just, you know, I look at Malcolm X and all the shit that he's stood for and all that shit. And I identify with him. I do. And I was like, yeah, you know, went to jail. We're going to ride in this bitch. Yeah, they feeding us cold food. I'm about to stand. Yeah, come on, let's go.
Starting point is 00:41:54 When they come in this bitch, let's go. You know what them niggas did? When they came in there with them guns and shit, them niggas went and got in their rack. I'm out there fighting by myself. You know what the warden told me? He said, I respect you. You're a man, but start sticking by yourself. I'm out there fighting by myself. You know what the warden told me? He said, I respect you. You're a man,
Starting point is 00:42:05 but start sticking by yourself. I can't win. You know what Minister Faragón said one time? Minister Faragón said, you have to love black people more than they hate themselves. I guess.
Starting point is 00:42:19 I love God, and I love my family, and I love the people that love me. I'm not walking out here, hey, I'm going to be honest with you. You want to be honest? Absolutely. See, like, people I don't like, I don't wish no good on them. I hope you drive down the street and get hit by a car and die.
Starting point is 00:42:37 This is why healing is. Like, I don't wish good. Not linear. Healing is linear. Like, I don't wish, like, I'm going to be honest. Does he sound like me? I don't wish good. Like, I be hearing people don't like i don't wish like i'm gonna be honest i don't wish good like i'll be hearing people say that man he hurt you i wish the best for you i'm gonna say i wish you the best because i'm not gonna put no negative energy but i don't wish no good for you
Starting point is 00:42:55 i don't give a fuck what happened to you this is why healing isn't a task it's a practice all right it's a journey i just don't wish no harm on anybody. I just mind my business. Man, that shit sound cool. I don't. That shit sound cool. It sound cool. That shit sound cool. I'm going to tell the truth, though.
Starting point is 00:43:11 Hey, if you hurt me or fuck over me, man, I wish something bad happened to you. That's why you punched that wrestler so hard? Who, me? No comment. Why you punch that wrestler so hard? No comment. You're an idiot, Kevin. They were like, that's not what we rehearsed.
Starting point is 00:43:23 I'm just asking, though. No, I'm on the same... Like, the world want to be politically correct. I'm not trying to be politically correct. I always feel like the worst thing you can do is be successful. I be having those feelings, but then I just... No, I think just be successful and cut somebody off so that they have no access to you, and I think that's the worst.
Starting point is 00:43:40 I mean, why would I throw away all of this behind a peon, a peasant mindset? If you did something pussy or malicious to me, that just show me where your mindset is. You a peasant. But I ain't wishing the best for you. I don't care what the fuck happened to you. I'm not wishing the best, but I'm just mad about this. You just said you wished the best.
Starting point is 00:43:56 No, I didn't. I said I would cut off access to you and I would be successful. I don't wish the best. I might say that. Hey, stay blessed. Boy, fuck you. Die today. wish the best i might say that hey stay blessed boy boy you died today i ain't gonna say the boy you died today
Starting point is 00:44:13 hey listen i'm gonna say what everybody scared to say i'm not with that politically correct so with all of that you knew intro was going to be how you had to start the album off because i see all of that in the intro yeah like when i make music that's therapy for me i'm releasing all of these emotions and things of that nature and it's healing for people to hear that oh man i'm going through the same thing he going through this how he did with it with fitness this how he did what i take i could go smoke weed but i love what inky johnson say he said a lot of these brothers, when shit get difficult, they just go blow weed. They ain't got nothing invested.
Starting point is 00:44:47 See, when you invest in something and you hustle and you work for something, you got a different type of attachment to it. You're going to have a cold day in hell for somebody to try to take this from you. We live by this. We die by this. We don't surrender. We don't retreat. Every man must search his own soul.
Starting point is 00:45:01 I listen to that quote every morning. Every man must search his own soul. And I got to quote every morning. Every man must search his own soul. And I gotta just tell the truth. I don't feel like a lot of these people feel. Are they scared to say that's how they feel? I don't care. Whatever you think about me, I don't care. I'm happy. But I ain't gonna lie, that
Starting point is 00:45:18 was triggering when I got to think about all the hurt. Ladies and gentlemen, Kevin Gates! Would you do skydiving again? You saw me? Yeah. Would you do that again? I would never do that.iving again you saw me yeah would you do that again i would never do that i can't wait i jumped off the thing in jamaica that was healing yeah i did it one time too then you start looking up all them youtube when it didn't work out i was gonna join a club because it was so free right join a club and we go every week. And then somebody up here showed me the skydiving accidents.
Starting point is 00:45:50 And I seen people getting electrocuted, get caught in lines, the pools and everything. I was like, nah, I'm good. I got six kids. I ain't doing it. Hey, faith over fear, buddy. I'm all right. The moral of this interview is healing isn't a task.
Starting point is 00:45:59 It's a process. Now, see, he trying to do all that. Healing isn't linear. Put the disclaimer. Put the disclaimer. Let's say healing is a journey, not a destination. Healing is a journey. That's right. That's right.
Starting point is 00:46:07 Hey, are you really going to autograph my book? You just said that because the camera's not. No, I got you, man. I appreciate what you're doing. Can I have an autographed copy of it because I ain't bringing my book. Done. I'll give it to Crestwood. I don't have none up here.
Starting point is 00:46:17 But I appreciate what you're out here doing, Cav. I do. I really do because people need to hear it from a nigga like you. Y'all had me on Don't Care Today. When? I'm talking about you don't smell that. That was a learning experience. Oh, that wasn't Don't Care Today. What? You don't smell that? That was a learning experience. Oh, that wasn't Don't Care Today, though.
Starting point is 00:46:26 Oh, all right. That shit was funny. I thought that should have been a challenge. I wanted people to do it. You want me to eat this? You want me to eat this? You want me to eat this? Kevin Gates.
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