The Breakfast Club - Keyshia Ka’oir gets backlash following  Gucci Mane interview on the Breakfast Club about his severe mental health struggles and their partnership

Episode Date: October 22, 2025

Loren is reacting to the backlash toward Keyshia Ka’oir, Guccis wife. Following, Keyshia and Gucci opening up about the ways that they deal with Gucci’s mental health.  It’s not simple, it’s not easy, but this is what love and union is all about! This kind of transparent conversation is saving lives!!YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@BreakfastClubPower1051FMSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Lauren came in hot. Hey, y'all, what's up? It's Lauren LaRosa, and this is the latest with Lauren LaRosa. This is your daily dig on all things, pop culture, entertainment news, and all of the conversations that shake the room. Let me get my mic together, together, because today we got some things to talk about. So hop in right on into it, Gucci Man, Kish Keiore came on the breakfast club and wow was the conversation like I knew the conversation was going to be a good

conversation I'm a huge fan of Gucci's of course really really big fan of kisha or I remember being in college and like you know we was doing the the color lipstick and the hair and you know all the things um kisha because kisha kha had or she still does have kish kha kha cosmetics but I don't know she had us in a choke code at that time the girls that had the hair with the middle like little mohawk I never did a little, little, you know, Mohawk thingy thingy, but being at Del State during that time, being at college during that time, you really got to see the impact of both of these people.

So sitting here with them, you know, whenever I'm at breakfast club, it's always like, damn, I'm really, you know what I mean? Like, I'm really sitting here with the, but then they're there. Gucci's in a different space in his life. He's talking about, you know, everything he's dealing with, you know,

mental health-wise, and the book and the album episodes is out. So I knew it was going to be an open and vulnerable conversation. but I had no idea. I want to take a second to just talk about some of the things that we talked about in some of the ways I saw people responding to the interview in total. So Kishayor and Gucci, you know, they are married. They now have two kids together.

And from the outside, look at in, before we learned that Gucci, you know, was dealing with mental struggles of his own, their relationship has been one that. that, you know, trends a lot of times as a fairytale from the story about Gucci giving Keisha Careware the money before he went to jail and her flipping the money and him coming home to all this money. And, you know, just you always see the videos and the photos of the Wobsters and, you know,

they dressed alike, they fly, they walking in the concerts, doing this, doing that. But to hear the other side of things where it's like in real life, she is. And I think, you know, when you're married, you are your life's, like you are your partner's life. line. But I think it's in such a different way when that person is dealing with anything, you know, any type of sickness, whether it's a mental health situation or it's, you know,

a physical disability. It's just different. And I think them being vulnerable and opening up and talking about this, not even think I know. Kior literally just posted to her Instagram that someone reached out to her. She said that she had been getting flooded by DMs every since the Breakfast Club interview. But she says, specifically, Specifically, right before I walked into this podcast, I saw her post that there was a mom who says, my son was watching that interview. He finally would be honest with himself about the fact that he does have mental health struggles and that he does need some help.

Thank you. Because now they're able to actually go and do something about it. And Gucci talked a bit in this interview just about, you know, what that looked like, shame wise for him. And why, you know, it kind of took him so long to come around and just say, yo, here's what's going on with me. Let's take a listen. I wonder what the psychology is behind that.

Why, when you're going through an episode, you feel it? Give away money and just, I don't know. You don't care about your mind. Because the money don't, it's not, you're kind of like in a world. It's almost like, it's a psychosis. You know what I'm saying? It's not, you're dealing with stuff like, you're hearing voices. Yeah, they have voices.

And you're hearing voices, too. Like, it's telling you to, you know, you might think that Charlemagne trying to, I might think that you're trying to fight me. You ain't even did nothing. We were like, bro, I ain't did nothing to you. What's wrong? Like, I would be, like, trying to fight you, Charlemagne, like, you did this. You know what you did?

You stole something from me. And you'd be like, I stole nothing from you. But in my mind, I'm like, it's the truth. So that's what I used to deal with. How did therapy and the self-work change your relationship with anger? And like, do you still wrestle with that same in a voice that you talk about throughout the book?

I don't. I don't. It's like I seen a therapist. I got a, so taking medicine to prescribe for me what she thought and it worked. And I haven't had any other problems. Now, one of the things that I think, you know, I knew that there was going to be some fallout

because Mekisha K.O.R. has said, you know, my man don't got to do nothing, but relax, basically. Here's what she actually said. I treat Gucci so good. Like, I know I said this. When he first came out, I'd say I would bathe him and whatever.

I don't bathe him no more. But I used to bathe him. Now I still cook for him. Only thing Gucci got to do is shower. He don't got to do nothing else. I do everything for that man. But not because I have to do it. I want to.

I enjoy taking care of him. I enjoy him just being happy and going to the studio and doing music. I don't want him to worry about the bills. Worry about what he got to eat. Worry about nothing. That man, all he got to do is babe, child, and go do his shows and go to the studio. That is it. The wife takes care of everything else.

And I love doing it. And if I don't do it, I would be miserable. When she sat down with Carlos King for, you know, the conversation she had with Carlos King. The world was in a uproar, period. Like, people could not understand what she meant by, I make peace, I make home for my man, even though, again, at that time, I didn't fully understand the extent of, you know, Gucci's struggles. People were in an uproar. So when she was talking about a lot of the different things in our interview at the Breakfast Club that she had to do, just to make sure he got through

and gets through actively, you know, what his struggles are mentally, I knew that people were going to have something to say. Now, let's take a listen to K.R. talk about how she was able to protect Gucci from the world while he was going through what was happening mentally. Because a lot of y'all, because of this, I don't know, like the reaction to her talking about how she protected him in this situation has been a little odd to me. Like, I saw people saying, like, oh, it's giving caretaker, more than this given. wife. And I'm like, wow, people really don't understand what it's like to deal with someone

who is dealing with something health-wise. You instantly become a caretaker. You don't have a choice because even if you bring people in, they don't love, nurture, or have the patience. You know, the patience is the biggest thing. They don't have the patience like you have for the person you love. And it's 24-7, especially when somebody's dealing with something with mental health. Let's take a listen to Keoggiore to talk about, you know, deleting Gucci's apps off his phone so that the world didn't know what he was going through after his last meltdown with all those tweets. For you, what was it like just trying to protect the business that you guys have built while he's personally? I take his apps off his phone.

First thing I do, I delete Instagram. I delete everything. Even if I got to change his password, I'm changing it because I don't need the public to know he's having an episode. You realize you'd never know about any other episodes since September 13th because I control. control that because you're not going on Instagram. You're not going on Twitter. It's deleted. You know, and I just control everything at home. And now before the episodes come, I catch it. So that's why he hasn't had another one. And how you catch that is he doesn't speak to you. He wants to be left alone. He don't eat. He does not sleep. Text messages. There's a period after each word.

And I'm like, you're going through an episode. You're sick. No, I'm not. Ain't that wrong with me. why do you think that you're not speaking to me well there's nothing to talk about i said well that's not how you speak to your wife and i'm like you're sick and we snap out of it right then wow wow okay so this clip right here is what caused a lot of the conversation um i've seen several think pieces uh since this clip made it to the public since this interview made it to the public and you know i think what I learned when dealing with people who have mental challenges and, you know, physical health challenges is that you're literally in a world of your own when you are caring for those people. They're in a world of their own. Like I remember, you know, and my mom's, you know, stuff is a lot different than Gucci's.

But because my mom had a head trauma, when we caught my mom's cancer, it was brain cancer first, and then we tracked it back to the lung. She had to get, she had to do a biopsy on her brain. And I remember, ooh, for like the first four months after that, just in trying to care for her, there would be so many times and so many different things that she would say in. do and it would like it was it was so tough when kisha kior said you're not she says i'm not dealing with Gucci meaning like he's out of he this is not him right now this is this is the you know the the the health challenge that she's dealing with right now i really understood it because the way that my mom's mental was set up for some time and she's i don't she's good but i wouldn't say she's a hundred percent still i think you know

trauma to your brain is trauma to your brain under so much duress and you know all the things um but there would be things that she would say and i i remember like having to call family members and they would just be like you know you just got to realize you're not dealing with her even my friend like i would call a friend who went through something similar with their parent and she would always tell me like just remember this is you're not dealing with your mom right now and when your mom comes into her right mind you like it's different but even in reaching out to people

they you just don't get it like you're literally in your own world because it's just you and this person you're the only person that kind of understands like you know what the triggers are for whatever the health issue that they're going through you're the only person that understands how to kind of get them into a state

where you can even talk them into understanding that they're having, you know, these episodes and these issues that they're dealing with. You're the only person that just can understand what you're dealing with, to be honest with you, because no one else is there every single day. So in listening to her speak, what she's talking about, people would never understand. Like, the way that I'm seeing people react as if, you know, her method of going about taking care of her husband is too much. Like, it's too forceful. it's she's in too much control uh i saw people you know almost insinuating that like you know

he uh you know at this point is under a control that he has no power of and just various different things and you know for me i've just learned in these type of situations that when someone is being treated health wise you got to give that person and the person that is caring for them every single day the room to do what they need to do. do to get through every single day, what she is going about doing and how she's going about doing it, we probably will never understand it, ever. Because even in talking to them from the beginning of the interview to the end of the interview, literally I remember saying to myself, this is a lot deeper than people understand. He is going through a lot more than people understand and thank God

for Keior because she probably saved his life on multiple occasions. She talked about I thought, you know, one time where they had this condo in Miami, and she said, her biggest fear, she never thought that he would hurt her. But her biggest fear was that he would hurt himself. And one of her thoughts was he may jump over the balcony of the condo of Miami because of mentally what he was going through. And that would keep her up at night. Literally, let's take a listen to that. It's scary.

Like, like, we had a condo where we were on like the penthouse and I'm like, is he going to jump? Is the voice going to tell him to jump? Like, that's the scary part. Not me being scared of him hurting me. So for people to say she's doing a bit too much, he gives sedated as if he can't make his own decisions. I think, you know, what we're seeing is her having to do

exactly what needs to be done because she's been fighting this battle with him throughout the diagnosis and all the treatment and she's working with the doctors. Like a lot of it is just, Just like, mind your business. The Big Take podcast from Bloomberg News dives deep into one big global business story every weekday. A shutdown means we don't get the data, but it also means for President Trump that there's no chance of bad news on the labor market.

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I know Kior said in the interview, I asked her like, you know, what do you do when you feel like the walls that are caving in? Because it gets there. It gets me. really, really dark, man, because you can't talk to anybody. People react how, you know, people are reacting right now online where everybody has opinions about what you should be doing, how you should be feeling, what the person should be doing, what they shouldn't be doing, how they should be treated. You're dealing with so much alone. And she said this. She says she doesn't

get help. She says she doesn't talk to anybody. She's happy when he's happy. And I completely understand that. But boy, it has to be heavy. Because, now on top of them she did such a good job for so many years keeping this in their household and getting it to a point where he is alive and he is he's well and he's able to you know and he's in the interview speaking for himself y'all are acting like this man is not sitting right here but she's done such a good job of protecting home and making it a space where he can do what he needs to do to continue to be well but now they're letting it out to the world they're on this book tour the album is out he's talking about things and that's another thing as well too that i thought

about i'm like you know there's so many different things that still trigger me and i wasn't a person that was dealing with someone with mental health issues as as you know deep as i learned that gucchis was but there are certain videos that i you know i was i was trying to vlog and like keep up with you know everything that we were dealing with and there's certain photos i'll see in my phone from that time period and it just takes me in a whole different space. I can't imagine what it's like for Keior after this interview. She's getting a bunch of positive feedback too as well. She said that.

But I know people are calling who didn't really understand how deep it was. I know people are reaching out and, you know, apologizing for not being there as much as they probably feel like they should have been after watching this interview. And all of that is triggering. People expressing their unwanted opinions, everything is so true. It's triggering for not only her, but for him. And again, she's there. She's dealing with this every single day.

I don't know about y'all, but after sitting in this interview and speaking with them, one of the biggest things I walked away with feeling is like, it ain't nobody else going to do it for you in your life. When you get to a point where you have no one else to turn to and you don't even understand what's going on with yourself because he knew something was not right. he knew we needed some help right but he wasn't at the point where he wanted to deal with it and really dive into it and see what exactly it was and learn how to treat it she came in she said and was like i'm going to help him if you ain't got nobody else baby the way that

your your wife your husband is supposed to love on you i'm like man this is what it's this is what it's about like this is what union is about. This is what love and family is about. And I'm, yo, I just kept saying to myself, thank God for Keior. Like, thank God for her. And that was my first time meeting Gucci. I don't know him personally. Of course, huge fan, who is not a fan of Gucci man, but just hearing him detail and hearing her detail. She said one time, he stood outside for 24 hours and would not come back into the house do you know how just far gone his mind had to be and i'm just thinking i'm like this is Gucci man like we look at him as a celebrity all of the you know the cars the jewelry

the fame the you know what i'm saying and he isn't such a a deep fight for his mental stability that she wakes up one day and he's standing outside for 24 hours There was one time he stood outside for 24 hours at the door, just standing. I said, get inside. No. I said, did somebody give you a cookie or lace it? What is wrong with you? Because I'm not even catching on. I just want to stand up out here.

He said, out there are 24 hours. So I said, okay, there's an episode coming. I wasn't that good of a pro yet. So the episode came like a week or two after that. We had no idea. I'm like, yo, thank God for her. She probably saved his life. So I don't know what conversation you are having about this interview.

But I would say if your conversation is anything other than I want a person I love who may be going through this to watch it. I'm trying to watch it for myself, you know, to see if I have any, you know, similar triggers or if I'm hearing things that sound familiar. So, like, I can figure out, like, if I'm a person that, like, potentially needs to go talk to somebody, whatever, you know, or just watching it with, hey, I'm sending some love and some admiration because it is hard. It's hard being Gucci and going through this. Think about that. Like, it's not just like a, it's hard for anybody dealing with anything health-wise. But imagine being a person. And people will say, like, I mean, he has all the resources and the money and he can get to the doctors. Yeah, but you still got to deal with it. Once you go see the doctor and you get treated, they tell you the meds, you still got to take the meds. You still got to wake up every day sometimes feeling like, what is life and why is life? While facing your kids and your wife, your wife is there. And on top of that, the world is all up in your business because of who y'all are. There are so many layers to this.

You cannot take anything from this interview, but thank God for Keiore and the patience and the love that she has for this man. and thank God that he got to the point. Because also, too, even if you remove Keisha K.U.R. from the situation, Gucci needed to get to a point where we're sitting and having this conversation with him that we were able to have. And to be honest with y'all, I felt like, there was one, I asked him a question in an interview just about, you know, East Atlanta triggering him and some of the triggers from his childhood. Let's take a listen to that. It does trigger me going to East Atlanta.

Yeah, like, stuff with my mom triggers me. we had like a scrang relationship stuff from my youth trigger me you know old friendships you know that went sour there's a lot of stuff can be triggers I can you know some songs even trigger me and I could like as I asked the question after hearing so much about like you know

the triggers and just how sensitive everything was in my mind I'm like I hope that question doesn't trigger him because it does seem very temperamental and it's something that he's, you know, working through and it's new and him, you know, going on the press tour and everything is new. And Kishi even said in the interview, and he said, you know, this book kind of almost put him back in a really bad space.

He goes in and out of it to this day. But he made me want to watch what I was saying in that interview, but it also made me think about, like, just moving forward, like, you know, it was like a self-accountabit. Like, I don't know, like, I've been having these moments lately where I'm just sitting I'm thinking like is what I'm doing and how I'm doing it like how is that helping or hurting people in that moment when I asked him that question and you know there was no malice there I really you know after hearing him said it in an interview was wondering what other things he may have discovered from his childhood that he's had to reface in order to move forward

but it didn't feel like he was ready to talk about it if I'm be honest with y'all didn't it feel like he was ready to talk about that fully and again it's a very sensitive thing but it made me think about like you know just when you get on these platforms and you're sitting in these interviews and you know all the things like we have a job to do and we're going to ask questions but just understanding like it's so crazy how like now we're able to have the luxury to sit back and think like damn did I just disturb that person's like well-being for the sake of content like I never want to be that person ever ever ever ever and I've been seeing and so many think pieces on this interview

and TikTok recap videos and yo, I saw somebody accused Keisha Keir of voodoo and witchcraft because he sat there and told y'all that his wife at one point had to kidnap him to make sure he was okay and take him to the hospital to save

his life. And I'm like, do people not understand how their words travel and what that could potentially cause? Like just so many different things. And like, granted, I ain't perfect, you know, I'm in real time, like, growing up and learning and experiencing so many different things in front of you guys. But, man, I just want us to

readjust the conversation around this interview. And don't get me wrong, I've seen so many great reactions as well that I do want to highlight. I don't want to take time just for the BS. I want to highlight some of the great conversations that I've also seen. I posted the interview to, on my ex account. And I want you guys to hear, you know, just how people responded, just to that clip where Kior talked about deleting Gucci's apps. The Big Take podcast from Bloomberg News dives deep into one big global business story every weekday. A shutdown means we don't get the data, but it also means for President Trump that there's no chance of bad news on the labor market. What does a bacon, egg, and cheese sandwich reveal about the economy?

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me to answer my burning questions. Like, are we heading towards another financial crash like in 08? Is non-monogamy back in style? And how come there's never a gate ready for your flight when it lands like two minutes early. We've got guests like Pete Buttigieg, Stacey Abrams, Lili Singh, and Bill Nye. When you start weaponizing outer space, things can potentially go really wrong. Look, the world can seem pretty scary right now

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Chicago, a white woman's murder, a black man behind bars, for a crime he didn't commit. I had 90 years for killing somebody I have never seen. He says the police are his friends. that's it. They turn on it. A corrupt detective. How he was interrogated the techniques. That's crazy. A snitch and a life stolen. They got the wrong guy.

But on the inside, Lee Harris finds an ally in his sally, Robert, who swears to tell the truth about what happened to Lee and free his friend. And if you're with me, you're golden. I'll take care of you. I'm going to be with you. You stuck with me for life. Listen to the Crying Wolf podcast, starting on October 22nd, on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. All I know is what I've been told, and that's a half-truth is a whole lie. For almost a decade, the murder of an 18-year-old girl from a small town in Graves County, Kentucky, went unsolved. until a local homemaker, a journalist, and a handful of girls came forward with a story. I'm telling you, we know Quincy Kilder, we know.

A story that law enforcement used to convict six people, and that got the citizen investigator on national TV. Through sheer persistence and nerve, this Kentucky housewife helped give justice to Jessica Curran. My name is Maggie Freeling. I'm a Pulitzer Prize-winning journalist, producer. And I wouldn't be here if the truth were that easy to find. I did not know her and I did not kill her. Or rape or burn or any of that other stuff that y'all said. They literally made me say that I took a match and struck and threw it on her.

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Nikki Minaj got mad, too. I think Nikki Minaj got mad at us as well. She has some things to say about us following this Gucci interview. I'm trying to get down my mentions to get to the reaction to the Gucci interview, but I keep running into the barbs being upset because of the way that we covered. Nikki Minaj is morning. I'll read the Nicki Minaj stuff, but let me hear. So, Saniq Saturday.

I think Saturday I wear a lot of her bag. She is a black woman bag designer. Fire too out of New York. She says, it's so beautiful to see Gucci mature and share her story with safety of having his wife beside him. They're helping so many people

with this level of transparency. Maimuna underscore Joy on X said. The transparency in this interview highlights not only the love that they have for each other, but also their love for the black community. As they're literally saving lives by openly sharing his battle. and mental health.

Yo, I saw so many people in the comments having conversations about, like, just like, hey, I have a family member who needs to watch this. Hey, this happened to me, and I was able to go to the doctors, be diagnosed, and thank you, Gucci for, like, opening up. I think it's so different because, like, again, it's like, Gucci has been, like, the boogeyman. like he's like a mythical character like he you know it's it's big it's music it's celebrity it's you ain't don't don't mess with Gucci you know what I mean like it's always been that about him

but now it's like it's it's vulnerable it's honest it's him talking about shame embarrassment him and him apologizing for things him explaining things that you know even he says in the moment he did not remember or couldn't control him talking about how you know the medicines he's been prescribed is helping him. Therapy, you know, facing, you know, his relationship, you know, or facing what wasn't perfect in the relationship that he had with his mother. It's the maturity, I think, because there's so many people that look up to Gucci and I think there's certain artists of, you know, just our time that have such a big cultural impact. And Gucci Man is definitely one of them. And it goes from generation

to generation to generation. So to hear those people be like, look, I ain't got it all together. And, you know, there's points where I'm weak and I'm out of control and, you know, and I'm this and I'm that. But I had to get myself in check. I had to go do real things to help myself. That's impactful. And I think that's what a career, not that, you know, this is something that he's doing

because he has to for his career. He's really battling this in real life. But, you know, I started this by saying that I've been thinking a lot about like, dang, and what I do every single day, like, how. am I helping people sitting in that interview and listening to him be so honest about stuff and wanting to talk about it and being excited that he's helping people through this I'm like yo this is this is what the full circle looks like like you start one way and you end another but you use where you started to reach everybody like like the way church

supposed to be like come as you are it's like a use everybody or use everything to reach everybody and that's like the beauty of just black art too like hip hop and music intertwine so many different people so many different things situations all of that but when you think about artists that are impactful or that are influential in hip hop and just the way that they can sway audiences all over the world when those artists begin to do that and speak like realness around tough situations like mental health and it's just it's just so fire to see and it's so fire because it's real and it's authentic and he didn't have to share this with us he did not have to share this with us whatsoever because the way kisha kior was holding it down i don't think we would

have ever really known the extent of you know what Gucci was dealing with because she has been just so good at creating that space for him he made the personal choice to open up about his life about something that he battles with day-to-day right now. I know this is probably like Lauren and you send this on the internet. Let's just all be a little bit more thoughtful as we're reacting to these conversations because the conspiracy theories that y'all have, I'm just like, bro, what in the, like what is happening? Please take me out of the group chat. Take me out of this rabbit hole.

But all in all, it was a great conversation. Make sure you guys go check out that full interview with Gucci Man and Keisha Kior. On the breakfast club, it'll definitely change the way you think about, you know, just dealing with people you love in very sensitive and vulnerable situations. I'm Lauren La Rosa. This is the latest with Lauren La Rosa. At the end of the day, I tell you guys every episode, my lowriders. Y'all could be anywhere with anybody having a conversation about this,

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