The Breakfast Club - Lavar Ball Interviews and Dutches from Black Ink Crew New York Interview

Episode Date: December 14, 2017

Wednesday 12/Today on the show we had the Ball family in the building! where Lavar Ball and his sons spoke about Donald Trump and what happened in China, Lavar's confidence and more. Also, Dutches fro...m Black ink Crew New York stopped by, and gave us all the tea with what happened between her and Ceasar, and even had the documents to back it up. Charlamagne also gave "Donkey of the Day" to Roy Moore's spokesperson Ted Crocket.  Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:01:46 Cut the cameras, I'm out of here. What kind of show is this? My son listens to this show. The Breakfast Club. With DJ Envy. The captain of this bitch. With Angela Yee, the only one who can keep these guys in check. With Charlamagne Tha God.
Starting point is 00:01:59 I'm a lovable asshole. And this is The Breakfast Club, bitches. Good morning, Angela Yee. Oh, good morning, TJ and V. Charlamagne Tha Guy. Peace to the planet. Guess what day it is. Guess what day it is. Hump Day. Yes, today is Wednesday, Hump Day.
Starting point is 00:02:35 That's right. Two more days until the Breakfast Club holiday vacation. That's right. Or the second holiday vacation. We take one for Thanksgiving. And then, of course, we get, you know we get Christmas and New Year's off. Correct. And Happy Hanukkah to everybody. It ain't the first day of Hanukkah, right? Alright. Salute.
Starting point is 00:02:49 Okay. What's happening? We got a great show for you today. We have LeVar Ball and the Ball family joining us. Not the whole Ball family. Just LeMelo and LiAngelo. Yeah, LiAngelo won't be here. But LeVar's one of my favorite entrepreneur girls. I love when you post,
Starting point is 00:03:05 we post the videos of who's going to be on the show for the day. I love seeing all the hate that LaVar Ball gets. I love it. Right. Because people are afraid
Starting point is 00:03:16 of somebody who's not afraid. Well, Alonzo, he was playing against the Knicks last night. Yeah. The Lakers and Knicks won? Knicks won. Okay.
Starting point is 00:03:23 And I was at the Brooklyn Nets game. Very exciting. It was Karen Civil Day. They mistook you for Karen Civil. Yes. How did that happen? All right. So apparently, I mean, I guess Karen was taking a long time to come down.
Starting point is 00:03:38 And so I was sitting there. Karen has like a few court sites. She used to do this Karen Civil Day thing every single year. Now, mind you, I'm in the Brooklyn Nets campaign. I was on a billboard and everything. You're from Brooklyn. I'm from Brooklyn. I go to the games.
Starting point is 00:03:50 This is my first game this year, but I do go to the games quite frequently and pretty much everybody in there knows me. Shout out to the great staff that works at the Barclays and for the Brooklyn Nets.
Starting point is 00:03:59 But this one guy comes over to me. He's a white guy. And he goes, Hey, I need you to switch seats with Lenny S. Well, he. And he goes, hey, I need you to switch seats with Lenny S. Well, he didn't say Lenny S. I need you to switch seats.
Starting point is 00:04:08 I was sitting next to Lenny S. Mm-hmm. And sit next to, um, Davies. But he didn't say anybody's name. He just said, can you guys switch seats?
Starting point is 00:04:14 I want to take a picture and put you guys on the screen at the same time. Okay. So I switched seats. I'm sitting next to Davies and his cute daughter, Kyrie.
Starting point is 00:04:23 Very cute. And all of a sudden it says ladies and gentlemen, please welcome media mogul, philanthropist and author, Karen Civil. Drop one of the clues bombs for Karen Civil, damn it. It was her day. Being that it was her day, every woman in the building was her. It was Karen Civil.
Starting point is 00:04:38 Okay, let's be clear on that. So what did you do after they said Karen Civil? I laughed. I mean, it was funny. And then they were very apologetic. So everybody came down, oh my God, I can't believe it. Then they did a do-over. Which I thought was awkward because I was like, come on, we gotta do it again. We gotta get it right.
Starting point is 00:04:54 So they did a do-over and I know there were some confused people in there because they probably were like, alright, I thought that was Karen Civil. Damn it, man. Okay, you confused a lot of people. Also, Duchess from Black Ink Crew will be joining us this morning as well. So we'll kick it with both of them. Should be a lot of fun.
Starting point is 00:05:10 Let's get the show cracking. Front page news, what are we talking about? Oh, man, let's talk about Alabama and the election last night. You know, Roy Moore was running against Doug Jones. Doug Jones did call in here, and we'll tell you who won. Okay, we'll get into all that when we come back. Keep it locked. Let's rake it up.
Starting point is 00:05:26 It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning. Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy Angelou. Charlamagne Tha God. We are the Breakfast Club. Let's get in some front-page news. Now, let's talk about what happened in Alabama yesterday.
Starting point is 00:05:38 Yes, so it was a very, very, very close election, a Senate special election in Alabama, and Doug Jones did beat Republican opponent Roy Moore. Roy Moore lost by about 20,000 votes. It was a surprise victory because he was leading all this time. But Roy Moore still has refused to concede defeat. He wouldn't step down even though he had a scandal where several women accused him of molesting them. And one of them says that he molested her when she was 14 years old and he was in his 30s.
Starting point is 00:06:06 There must be a lot of registered sex offenders in Alabama who showed up for their boy Roy Moore. Yeah, so he wants to get a recount. Now, what happens is an automatic recount happens under state law when a race is within half a percentage point. This race was about 1.5 percentage points. So you can still call for a recount, but you have to pay for it yourself.
Starting point is 00:06:25 So we'll see what happens. And they're saying the outcome is not likely to change. This race wouldn't even have been this close if we just asked for basic respect and dignity and integrity and morals from our politicians, because truthfully, Roy Moore shouldn't even have been in this race. Right, and this is the first Democrat to win a Senate seat in Alabama in 25 years.
Starting point is 00:06:43 So congratulations to Doug Jones. He did call up to the Breakfast Club. Sure did. As well. Congratulations, Doug Jones. You barely beat a pedophile. Says a lot about the state of Alabama, but at least Alabama did the right thing. All right.
Starting point is 00:06:53 Well, what else are we talking about on Front Page News? Well, let's do an update on Keaton Jones. Keaton Jones is the middle schooler in Tennessee who put out that emotional Facebook video where he talks about being bullied. Just to refresh your memory, here's part of that. Why do they bully? What's the point of it? Why do you find joy in taking innocent people
Starting point is 00:07:12 and finding a way to be mean to them? They make fun of my nose. They call me ugly. They say I have no friends. How's that make you feel? Why did they do it to me? I don't know why they do it to other people because it's not okay. People that are different don't need to be criticized about it.
Starting point is 00:07:33 It's not their fault. Well, the irony is, after all of this happened, his mom, Kimberly Jones, they have all these pictures of her holding a Confederate flag. Her daughter's Twitter also has a family photo with a Confederate flag. Now, she did respond to all of the backlash, and here's what she had to say. We're not racist. I mean, and people that know us know that. It was meant to be ironic and funny and extreme.
Starting point is 00:07:58 I am genuinely, truly sorry. If I could take it back, I would. They would hate me. I mean, and whatever. That's fine. But still, talk to your kids because this is an epidemic. Yeah, racism is an epidemic, too. She's full of it.
Starting point is 00:08:13 I don't know what that kid went through or why he went through it, but I do know that's a lame-ass excuse his mom just gave for the racially insensitive things she said on Facebook. What's the irony in what she said? What's funny about what she said? Nothing at all. Get the F out of here. Keaton also says he was targeted by five fellow middle schoolers.
Starting point is 00:08:27 He said he never complained to a teacher because he thought the bullies would for sure attack. And his mom said he just didn't want to go back to school because he was so agitated. Now, in another twist, Keaton Jones' father is a white supremacist who's in jail. The father's name is Sean White. And his Facebook pictures show all these memes and they're sayings like holy F, I love being white, keep calm and be white,
Starting point is 00:08:51 pride, and Aryan pride. Or the apple don't fall too far from the tree. Or the cracker don't fall too far out the box. So it's like, you know, you got your kid online crying saying people that are different shouldn't be criticized, yet you got his biological father online criticizing people that are different. F out of, yet you got his biological father online criticizing people that are different. F out of here!
Starting point is 00:09:07 He also has a tattoo on his neck that says CWB, which stands for Crazy White Boy. Oh, my goodness. All right, well, that's front page news. Get it off your chest. 800-585-1051. If you're upset, you need to vent, hit us up right now. It's The Breakfast Club.
Starting point is 00:09:24 Good morning. The Breakfast Club. Good morning. The Breakfast Club. It's your time to get it off your chest, whether you're mad or blessed. We want to hear from you on The Breakfast Club. Hello, who's this? Hey, what's up, man? Get it off your chest, bro.
Starting point is 00:09:43 Hey, man, I'm blessed. I'm feeling good. I'm working right now, driving the truck. I just want to say God bless, man. That's all. All right, thank you, bro. Thank you, bro. All right. Hello, who's this?
Starting point is 00:09:55 Hey, this is Joppa the Great, Augusta Jordan. Hey, Joppa, get it off your chest, bro. I really don't have anything to get off my chest. My life is great. I'm an aspiring artist. I just dropped an album called Call It What You Want. Follow me on Instagram at J-O-P-P-A-D-A-G-R-E-A-T. Hey, let me tell you something, my brother.
Starting point is 00:10:13 I don't know if you know it or not, but you did just get something off your chest. It was just something positive. There's nothing wrong with that. We told you all y'all can call up here and celebrate life if you want. Hello, who's this? This is Taylor from Georgia. Hey, Taylor. Get it off your chest, mama.
Starting point is 00:10:26 I just wanted to tell anybody who's going through something right now because I'm going through a lot. Just hang in there. Everything's going to be okay. When you wake up every morning, thank God for another day. And it's time gets tough, but just hang in there because it's going to be right. Oops, I'm sorry. I didn't mean to cut. No, you be right. Oops, I'm trying to be the cuss.
Starting point is 00:10:46 Nah, you're right, though. I tell people that all the time. Trouble don't last always. I love your positive attitude. Absolutely. You know what? I've been depressed, but finally I woke up and I'm like, you know what? I just keep doing the right thing, and the right things are going to come to me.
Starting point is 00:11:01 And that is a fact. And the best thing to think is that the world's going to keep turning whether you're angry or depressed or not. Exactly. And you guys, I listen to you guys every morning on my way to work. You guys pump me up every morning. I love you guys. I'm shaking because I'm talking to you. Thank you for having no taste, baby.
Starting point is 00:11:18 Well, we love you, too. We love those great inspirational words you gave us this morning. Have a great morning. Get it off your chest. 800-585-1051. If you're upset, you need to vent, hit us up now. It's The Breakfast gave us this morning. Have a great morning. Get it off your chest. 800-585-1051. If you're upset, you need to vent, hit us up now. It's The Breakfast Club. Good morning. The Breakfast Club.
Starting point is 00:11:34 Let's go! This is your time to get it off your chest. Whether you're mad or blessed. We want to hear from you on The Breakfast Club. So if you got something on your mind, let it out. Hello, who's this? Hey man, my name's Best.
Starting point is 00:11:45 I'm calling from Chattanooga, Tennessee. Get it off your chest, bro. Man, I'm mad as hell at these old racist-ass polices, man. I'm tired of it. These old racist-ass polices? Yeah, what the polices did to you? What they did? I got pulled over.
Starting point is 00:12:00 He said he pulled me over because my tag was, uh, like somebody had been messing with my tag, trying to steal my little sticker off my decal box. And I got out and looked at it. Yeah, that's right. Okay, you pulled me over because my tags was, like, somebody had been messing with my tags, trying to steal my little sticker off my decal box. And I got out and looked at him. Yeah, that's right. Okay, you pulled me over. I see that's right. Okay, so I tell him, here's my registration, my license, my insurance card.
Starting point is 00:12:15 He looks at everything I got. I said, yeah, yeah. He ran my tag in. Everything came back right. He's going to say three times, is there something in the car I need to know about? Man, ain't nothing in my car. Is there something in your car I need to know about? Man, ain't nothing in my car. Is there something in your car I need to know about? Man, for the last time, ain't nothing in my car I need to
Starting point is 00:12:29 know about. Do I need to check your car? Man, you need to go to the office down here. Boy, this is a boring story. Lord have mercy. You sound like Hoyt trying to explain his, uh, when Denzel asked Hoyt, what happened when you was out there with that female partner of yours? Is there a climax to this story?
Starting point is 00:12:45 Yes. What happened? He let me go. Woo! All right now. Boo. Lame-ass story. Hello, who's this?
Starting point is 00:12:55 This is Karina from Boston. Hey, Karina, get it off your chest, mama. It's not real bad. It's just a minute thing. But we're talking about racism and this woman and her father being a racist, and I disagree with all of it, but calling him a cracker isn't right either.
Starting point is 00:13:12 She's sending the wrong message. My daughter's going through it in school. She's being called Casper, white chocolate, and then to hear that, it's just hurtful. Let me ask you a question. You know that white chocolate was the nickname of a very famous white basketball player, Jason Williams, at one point. Yes, absolutely.
Starting point is 00:13:30 But in fifth grade it ain't. Why do we get upset when we call the devil the devil? This man is a clear white supremacist. He clearly doesn't like black people. He said, knowledge you don't like black people, but you get upset because I call them a cracker. You don't think that's kind of sick? No, absolutely. But if you called somebody else another racist name, would somebody else call?
Starting point is 00:13:49 You would like to hear no racist names. You would like to hear no racist names at all. Oh, God. Right, right. Like, let's not call a Spanish person something bad. Let's not call a black person something bad. Let's not call a white person something bad. Let's just say that they're a bad person in another way.
Starting point is 00:14:04 Don't call an ace an ace or a spade a spade. That is exactly why Roy Moore was in the Senate race yesterday because you don't ostracize people like him. Call him a freaking pedophile.
Starting point is 00:14:14 I would. I would call him a pedophile. That's what he did. But because somebody's white doesn't mean they're a cracker. We know this, baby. Let her express her opinion. Thank you, Mama.
Starting point is 00:14:25 For the last time. I mean, look, I don't use names like that either. For the last time, all white people are not crackers, but racist, bigoted, white supremacists are. Well, thank you for calling me. I don't understand why I'm rocking this. I suppose so, but I just, it might send the wrong message to younger listeners. It's hard for her because her daughter is going through something at school right now. All right.
Starting point is 00:14:45 Well, get it off your chest. 800-585-1051. If you're upset, you need to vent. You can hit us up at any time. Yee, we got rumors on the way? Yes, let's talk about Jada Pinkett Smith.
Starting point is 00:14:53 She's upset and it has to do with Tiffany Haddish and the Golden Globes. We'll tell you what she had to say. Okay, we'll get into all that when we come back. Keep it locked.
Starting point is 00:15:00 It's The Breakfast Club. Good morning. The Breakfast Club. Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy, Angela Yee, Charlamagne Tha God. We are The Breakfast Club. Let's get to the rumors. Let's talk Jada Pinkett Smith. This is The Rumor Report with Angela Yee. Rumor has it.
Starting point is 00:15:20 On The Breakfast Club. So listen up. Well, the Golden Globe nominations were announced, and Jada Pinkett Smith wrote on Twitter, I have so much to say on why Tiffany Haddish was not nominated for a Globe, but I won't. And then a little while later, she said, you know what? Actually, I will.
Starting point is 00:15:39 Oh, she did? I didn't even follow up. What'd she say? She said, actually, I will. Here we go. I'm not upset about Tiffany Haddish or Girls Trip not getting a nom. I'm discouraged about the fact that the Hollywood foreign press Golden Globes wouldn't even watch the movie. Girls Trip was one of the most successful films this summer.
Starting point is 00:15:55 That's a fact. And Tiffany was hands down the funniest person on screen in 2017. Without question. And we couldn't get eyes on the film or a press conference. How could a nom happen and how much more critical acclaim must a movie have to simply get a screening? She said, but yet Tiffany has been asked to present at their ceremony. This isn't about shaming.
Starting point is 00:16:13 This is about the need for discussion of an antiquated system and I dare not invalidate all the many journalists and people from all walks of life who have supported this movie by defining the issue as simply racism. Hollywood has systems in place that must learn to expand its concepts of race, gender equality and inclusion in regard to its perceptions of art across the board. And then she goes on to talk about movies like At the Big Sick Movie and Get Out that's considered a comedy.
Starting point is 00:16:39 And she said The Big Sick Movie went unnoticed and it was one of the most prolific films of the year. I don't even know about that movie. Anybody in here? Mm-mm. All right. So she said it's time to discuss. Well, I asked someone in Hollywood yesterday why they think Tiff didn't get nominated for a Golden Globe.
Starting point is 00:16:54 And they said because she's black and because of the type of movie that girl's trip is. But who cares? We don't need the Globes to celebrate Tiffany. Like she was saying, though, she just would have liked them to even watch it. They wouldn't even agree to watch the movie. And it was a very successful movie. How could you not even consider it enough to watch it? You know, Tiff did win an AA FCA award
Starting point is 00:17:11 for Best Supporting Actress for Girls Trip, so that's good. Alright, now R. Kelly, the man who is suspected of burglarizing his home has turned himself in. Alfonso Walker turned himself in. He was booked on two counts of burglary, two counts of theft by taking,
Starting point is 00:17:26 and two counts of theft by deception. So there was an arrest warrant out for him, and that's because he broke into, well, he was working with R. Kelly, and I guess... Just took everything out. Took everything out. Now, what if he stole from R. Kelly, but then he finds a sex tape of R. Kelly
Starting point is 00:17:40 with an underage girl, and he turns that in? Can he say that he was just looking for evidence? No. He can't say that? That doesn't explain taking out the, and he turned that in. Can he say that he was just looking for evidence? No. He can't say that? That doesn't explain taking out the TV and all the other items. Well, it was on the TV. He needs a TV to watch it. He can watch it on his laptop.
Starting point is 00:17:53 My goodness. All right, Rihanna has announced, and this is exciting for me, she has some new Fenty Beauty products, and that is going to be a line of matte lipsticks. It's called Mademoiselle. So you get it? Mademoiselle, but matte. I see you guys aren't that interested.
Starting point is 00:18:10 What the hell are you talking about? Who is matte? Fenty Beauty. I mean, her products, Rihanna's products have been. No, matte is actually not shiny. Not shiny, right. Matte black, matte red. I thought you were talking about a person.
Starting point is 00:18:20 I was like, what were Rihanna and Matt doing? I was just telling them it's based on a color. Yes. So it's going to be 14 shades in this collection and it's going to have all different colors ranging from brown to green.
Starting point is 00:18:30 I don't know if you guys saw SZA actually as part of this Fenty Beauty campaign and they released that picture of SZA yesterday as well. Okay. All right, well,
Starting point is 00:18:37 I'm Angela Yee and that is your Rumor Report. All right, let's get to it. We got one of my favorite entrepreneur girls coming in here. That's right. Laval Ball and the Ball family.
Starting point is 00:18:45 Well, not the whole Ball family. Lonzo's not here, but he's bringing Mello and Jello with him. Mello and Jello. When we come back, keep it locked. The Ball family is the Breakfast Club. Good morning. Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy Angela Yee, Charlamagne Tha Guy. We are the Breakfast Club. We got some special guests in the building. Big Ballers. The Ball
Starting point is 00:19:01 family. Good morning, guys. Good morning. Good morning. LeVar, LeAngelo, and LeMelo. That's right. We came to bat for you guys a couple of times. I don't. The Ball family. Good morning, guys. Good morning. Good morning. LeVar, LiAngelo, and LaMelo. That's right. We came to bat for you guys a couple of times. I don't know if you heard. Yes. Charlamagne gave a couple of people donkey today. Yes. I never understand the whole flack that LeVar gets for being
Starting point is 00:19:17 a brother who raised three black men to do the right thing. I don't get it. Well, you only gonna get that from them haters like that Gritlock. That's what I call it. Yeah. Everything stopped on him. I feel like anytime somebody goes against the grain, people always are critical.
Starting point is 00:19:33 Like when LeBron came in and he had his management team with him, people had issues with that. Yeah, they're going to have issues with that if that guy ain't behind him. You know who I'm talking about. That guy. They're looking for him, but he ain't there. You know, LaVar, I always wanted to ask you. It's always interesting because they always say, like,
Starting point is 00:19:49 Charlemagne, who are the people you want to interview? And I would never have an answer until I see it on the paper. I'm like, oh, the ball's coming today. I say, I got questions to LaVar. Do you think if you were white, do you think the perception of you would be the same? Heck no. Right now, they're scared of me because I'm uncontrollable. You can't control one of us, you in trouble.
Starting point is 00:20:06 Because now our vision is wide open. We've been doing the same thing everybody else been having a vision doing. We just different. It's not conventional. It ain't conventional. No. Like, even doing a Facebook show, Ball in the Family, and I have to say, watching that show, I think, gives everybody a better understanding of the whole family dynamic
Starting point is 00:20:26 just seeing like how supportive and how much everybody loves each other and how much fun you guys have at the same time you're working but y'all also are like really have a good time together you have your own brothers at security everything's in the family right the reason the show is so good is because it's genuine one thing you don't have to do is you have to write up these props for it to be exciting for you guys to watch it. So when people see us in a different light, instead of me screaming and talking how good we are and all this, they're seeing us being caring and having fun.
Starting point is 00:20:54 Which is not normal, because they waiting for me to have a mistress on the side or me throw a drink on my brother or somebody and say, man, but we don't smoke or drink. So it's all good. And they waiting for something to go wrong, but it ain't because we a tight-knit group. Well, the recent thing you did is you took both your kids out of school and signed them overseas. Mello was in high school.
Starting point is 00:21:12 LeAngelo, you was at UCLA. Yeah. How hard was that? Game or two? Not even a game. I didn't play a real game. Wow. How hard was that when you came to think about taking them and signing them overseas?
Starting point is 00:21:22 A lot of people go overseas for different reasons. That's why a lot of folks on the outside is thinking like, man, they're not going to do good over there. The team ain't going to like them. Wrong. Because everybody who go overseas, they go over there to make a living, go over there to make some money. Right. My boys ain't going over there to make no living on no money.
Starting point is 00:21:40 They're going over there for the passion of the game. They want to play. They want to play with some competition. That's what they're going over there for. It's a different meaning. You don't go over there all cocky trying. You just want to play, man. How about you guys going to Lithuania? It ain't LA. It ain't sunny. It ain't home. And we just learned
Starting point is 00:21:55 how to pronounce it. Yeah, I sure did. How was it going? How do y'all feel that it's going to be going to another... Lamella don't look happy already. He's like, man... I'm fine. I feel like it's going to be cool to another... LaMelo don't look happy already. He's like, man... I'm fine. I feel like it's going to be cool because like he said, we just want to play really.
Starting point is 00:22:09 So I wasn't really worried about where it would be at. Lithuania or anywhere, it's cool with me. And what about you? Same as him. It's probably adapted to like the culture.
Starting point is 00:22:18 Now for you, LiAngelo, was this a strategic move or was it an emotional move based off what happened with UCLA? What you mean? Was it a strategic... Let me ask LeBron. Miss LeBron, was it a strategic move or was it an emotional move based off what happened with ucla what's it was it a strategic let me ask the ball miss labar was it a strategic move or an emotional move based off what happened it's definitely not an emotional move because my boys are not like that it's it's i ain't gonna say it's a strategic move it's a move that we made that nobody had control of but
Starting point is 00:22:42 us you know everybody's stuck on, oh, UCLA is so good. Don't pass up this opportunity. UCLA ain't us. So we can do what we want. Y'all can sit back and think how long you're going to wait and let them other guys sit back. But the big baller way, we move when we move. We ain't got nobody to say, you know what?
Starting point is 00:22:58 We're doing better than any college player right now. Why? Because Jell-O's getting paid ten times what any college player's getting right now. They don't get nothing. They don't get nothing. We're good, baby. The coach said that he was surprised. Now, I don't know how this works. Do you tell the coach before
Starting point is 00:23:16 you make the announcement? Oh, he was very surprised. Everybody in the university was surprised. They ain't told me nothing, so I ain't tell them nothing. Now they're surprised. They ain't tell me one boy playing if he's not playing or whatever. And as soon as we up and going, oh, I'm surprised. I'm surprised you didn't tell me nothing. Now, when y'all come to these decisions, is it a discussion or is it a dictatorship?
Starting point is 00:23:35 Does LaVar say, no, this is what y'all going to do or y'all talk to us? Talk to y'all or at y'all? Your daddy talk to y'all. He know what he's doing. He don't make us do it, but he just. Everybody's stuck on this thing, thinking like, LeVar just control his boys. No, I give him guidance.
Starting point is 00:23:52 But I mean by that, you don't have to do nothing I say. But don't come back to me. If I say, hey, let's go this way, this is the good things for going this way. Right. But if you decide to go left, I'm cool with that. But don't come crying back when things don't work out your way. And that's what people keep thinking with all my boys. They're thinking like, oh, he need to let them be men and get from behind him.
Starting point is 00:24:13 I ain't never been behind him. I'm on the side of him. We rolling together. But I will give them advice where I won't let people take advantage of them. They too young to know all this. They're not experienced. They're teenagers. The thing that I love about your boys
Starting point is 00:24:25 is they are young, but they do seem to listen to their father. Like, what makes y'all listen to your father in an era where a lot of kids don't want to hear nothing from their parents? He's just always been there and helped us out and stuff. Still your dad or whatever.
Starting point is 00:24:39 Still your parents, so you can't just disrespect them like that. They brought you in the world. I mean, he's been right pretty so far. What about you, LaMelo? I've seen him have to check you a couple times. Like, keep your head in the game. Now, you ain't here with us this morning.
Starting point is 00:24:50 Oh, yeah. Most of the time, he's right. He ain't help me a lot. Most of the time. When do you think he's wrong? When's the last time he's been wrong? Actually, yesterday. Yesterday.
Starting point is 00:25:01 What happened? I was playing one-on-one. He thought he was going to win. Let you some beat you one-on-one? I ain't let that. I was trying hard. I was drunk. You did all that back then.
Starting point is 00:25:13 We only get two dribbles. Oh, see. But I know they remembered that game. I gave him a couple of little nice elbows. I got there with my sons at one moment. Now, when the incident Happened in China And Donald Trump
Starting point is 00:25:27 Allegedly helped And then he came at you How did you feel About him coming at you And did you really Send him some sneakers I sent him some sneakers 1600 Pennsylvania
Starting point is 00:25:36 Gave him three pair Let him know how we roll Red white and blue Show him we patriotic They gonna mark that As a bomb Soon as they get it They gonna
Starting point is 00:25:43 But like I said man We had our guys with boots on the ground. I don't know what they was over there for originally, but he left riding on our coattails. And I'm not going to thank nobody I'm not face-to-face with. You know what I'm saying? It ain't like he went over there and said, you know what? I'm over in America. They got three Americans over there.
Starting point is 00:26:04 Let me go over there and see what's up. It wasn't like he was over there and said, you know what? I'm over in America. They got three Americans over there. Let me go over there and see what's up. It wasn't like he was over there like that. And it's just like you could have said, you ain't even never met my son. I'm supposed to say thank you. So that's the way I looked at it. You think it was a publicity thing, Sam? Oh yeah, definitely it was publicity. Because we already, me and my guys had already had what had happened.
Starting point is 00:26:20 They already had boots on the ground. It was moving already. And this is before he even came over there. And this is to come over there and I'm supposed to thank somebody who said something on the other side They was moving already. And this before he even came over there. And this to come over there. And I'm supposed to thank somebody who said something on the other side. Like, I told him to be lenient. Somebody could have told him that on the street. All right, when we come back, we got more with the Ball family.
Starting point is 00:26:34 So don't move. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning. The Breakfast Club. Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy, Angela Yee, Charlamagne Tha God. We are the Breakfast Club. We have LaVar Ball and the Ball, Angela Yee, Charlamagne Tha God. We are The Breakfast Club. We have LaVar Ball and the Ball family in the building.
Starting point is 00:26:51 Charlamagne, why do you think Donald Trump wanted an apology from you when LeAngelo already gave him one? He wanted an apology from me because I'm the big baller. That's why he said, watch how I make this guy say thank you. Stop it. Now, what was going on in your mind when all that happened? Because we had a whole discussion about that up here and about the concern because, like, all the laws are different. Anything could happen. Well, that's because you've got to make it a story, make it sound good.
Starting point is 00:27:11 But my son got enough character to get a pass somewhat because it's just a bad mistake that a young kid made. Coming from L.A. South Central, I've had some of my friends be young, 16, 17 years old, go out shooting up folks and killing folks. And the next day they're not there or they're going there for life. Just to get some little shades or something like that, man, and confess about it. I looked at it a little differently. I was like, man, I've seen a lot worse than what this is. But stealing when he got the money, you got a Ferrari. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:27:39 A whole Ferrari. A whole got a half Ferrari. Why have they shades? What kind of shades were they? Louis Vuitton. Louis Vuitton. I saw the statement you put out yesterday. You said you did it because your friends were doing it.
Starting point is 00:27:52 That don't seem like the ball way to be a follower, man. I just made a bad decision. That's all. I didn't really say that too. However, you read that. What was the statement? What was the statement? I said we all stealing. It was in the shop. I didn't say it. My friends did stealing. It was in the shop. I ain't saying, oh, my friends did it.
Starting point is 00:28:07 Okay, okay, okay. It looks sweet, so he was like, all right, we out. But it never crossed your mind? Like, I got the money to buy these. Yeah, I mean, it just happened. That's all. I don't know why he did it. He don't know why he did it.
Starting point is 00:28:17 But it was done. And I ain't raise him like that. But I'm not going to jump on him like that. You know, it's in his mind. He already did it, whether you locked up or not. It's up here for a while. It's not where it's like, okay, everybody
Starting point is 00:28:31 keeps saying, oh, you're in China. There's a different punishment, man. No, it's not. When you steal anywhere, you're in trouble. It's wrong. Were you disappointed in him at all when you first heard it? Because you knew what the media was going to, especially due to you? To me, this is how each one of my boys have done something stupid.
Starting point is 00:28:48 But before the trip, Melo had done something dumb. Lonzo had done something dumb. This was the only one who didn't do nothing. You knew it was coming. I knew it was coming. And it just so happens
Starting point is 00:28:57 it happened over there. And I call it being lucky on the fact that we were over there. Right. And he wasn't by himself, you know, so it worked out pretty good. But come on, we all did some mistakes there. Right. And he wasn't by himself, you know. So it worked out pretty good. But come on, we all did some mistakes somewhere.
Starting point is 00:29:07 I just stopped stealing. I used to always steal XXL and Source magazines. Like, I'm talking about three, four years ago. I don't know why. You still were stealing three, four years ago? I don't know why. I'm going to just be there. I'm going to log out with it.
Starting point is 00:29:18 I ain't mean to. I wouldn't say to court you for that now. I stole that. I didn't mean to. I'm pretty sure everybody in this room has stolen something at some point. Yeah. Now, with your confidence, I'm going to call it confidence.
Starting point is 00:29:26 I ain't going to call it cockiness. You feel like your sons all have a target when they play basketball? Like they want to prove that they can shut them down to kind of shut you up? They better have a target from day one. Man, even when they was young, like in the third grade, we playing eighth graders, ninth graders. And the name of our team was called the Big Ballers. And, you know, it's a lot in the name.
Starting point is 00:29:45 It's called supremacy or that one. And people want to come at you. So I'm like, yeah, we the Big Ballers. And everybody would come in there jokingly. The Big Ballers, why they so small? When you finish beating that tail, they come out and say, oh, they the real Big Ballers. So they've been like that all their life.
Starting point is 00:30:00 If you don't want that target on your back, be sorry as hell. Nobody don't care. You know, you've never been soft on your boys. You never been soft on y target on your back, be sorry as hell. Nobody don't care. You've never been soft on your boys. You never been soft on y'all? No, not at all. I feel like when y'all would fall as a kid, what do you would do? Get up. You a boy. Hey, you see? You right there. You right there.
Starting point is 00:30:15 Yeah, never soft. Even when we were super young, it's always been hard, coach. You've spoken a lot of things in your life into existence. Like you knew you were going to have three boys. Yes. Right? You knew they're all going to go to the Lakers. Yes. You knew when you met your wife. Yes.
Starting point is 00:30:29 That y'all were going to be together. Man, I must be good. Mm-hmm. I must be good. But you know what? I tell everybody, you know, our famous big ball away, are you built for this? And I figure anybody can have anything they want if they're willing to put the time in. Because sometimes,
Starting point is 00:30:48 let's say you want something and it takes you about a week to get it. Are you going to wait that week? Maybe it may take you 10 years to get it. Are you going to wait 10 years? If you really want it, you're going to get it. Like I was telling this guy one day, I said, man, you know you can get any woman you want if you just got a woman
Starting point is 00:31:03 to put the time in. You might love this lady and she get married. You might have to wait until she's a widow before you come back at her. Might be 40, 50 years. But are you willing to wait? If you're not, go about your thing and find a new one. I like that. Especially in this era. Take your time.
Starting point is 00:31:19 Don't take it, young man. Do you think anybody could be a pro NBA player? I think anybody could be a pro. But you gotta, if you really want to be a pro, there's a lot of things you got to do. But I don't think people be really, they want the money. But it might not be their passion to be in it. Like I told my boys from day one, you born to go pro.
Starting point is 00:31:38 Your last name Ball, everything lined up for you. I can see that. I thought that when I first saw y'all laughing, I was like, it seemed like there's some destiny going on. It is, man, if you make it like that, though. Because your wife played ball too, right? Yes. I told them we're original ball family. We're the first basketball family. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Everybody playing soccer or baseball.
Starting point is 00:31:54 We got three ball players, last name ball. Who else is like that? How you get three sons, though, man? Because I got two girls, and I always say it because I was... Because you was a player back in the day. There you go. I was a home and a pad. And I said, I'm going to give you these girls and see how you work with these. I know, man. But you was playing ball.
Starting point is 00:32:08 You was like, I know you had to be getting it in. You see, I'm strong, though. You know what I'm saying? I'm an alpha dog, baby. You got a little weight back. You kept your socks on or something? Hey, man. I'm supposed to have boys.
Starting point is 00:32:20 But boys are in our family. That's why I told my wife. I said, I know you can't have like 12 kids, but you'll get three boys. Is that a distraction for you? I think I read that your wife had a stroke. She had a stroke. It's not a distraction for me because I'm with her forever. Got you, got you, got you.
Starting point is 00:32:33 Like I told her, as long as she can smile and kiss her boys, we good. She ain't got to say nothing. Now, do you go overseas to Lithuania or do you stay here? Because at every Laker game. You know I go on overseas. You go on overseas. I got to go see them Lithuanian people and let You know I'm going overseas. You're going overseas. I got to go see them Lithuanian people
Starting point is 00:32:46 and let them know we coming. Nope. Sure. Mello, is there ever a time when you want to tell your father, tone it down?
Starting point is 00:32:52 With me? Yeah. Oh, no. Never? You scared or you just don't want to? No, there's just no point. Why?
Starting point is 00:32:59 Why? Why? He not going to listen? No. What about you, LeAngelo? You ever want to say, man, tone it down, pop? No, I'm used to that.
Starting point is 00:33:08 He's been like that my whole life. Well, you guys know from a culture, man. Come on. Right, yeah. From your father, when you, you know. You got damn right. Absolutely. You got damn right.
Starting point is 00:33:16 They ain't saying nothing even if I'm wrong. You right. And they like that with me, man. Yeah. You know what? It's just to this day. I don't even tell my pops, like, you know, something he do and I don't like it. I go my other way because I can't.
Starting point is 00:33:30 You know what? But when you're in a household, you got to listen and go by their rules until you're ready to change and do your own thing. Right. Even when people were giving you flack saying that you could beat Michael Jordan one-on-one and stuff like that, I'm like, I don't know too many black fathers that show weakness in front of their sons. You're not going to tell another man to beat you.
Starting point is 00:33:45 I will kill him one-on-one. That's why they didn't have the game one-on-one. If it would have been one-on-one, he can't beat me. He's too slow. He's too weak. I'm talking about one-on-one. Now, going up and down that court, man, one-on-one, I'm going to bag you in. Ain't no three in the key.
Starting point is 00:33:59 270 pounds going against 210? No, not one-on-one, but he got that name. Ooh, Michael Jordan got that name. It's just like when I talk about the game, man. People look at me as, oh, that's Alonzo's dad just talking. Man, I'm 50 years old. I know the game. It ain't that hard.
Starting point is 00:34:15 It's basketball. I tell you what, when I'm playing some season, you listen a little bit. Now, what about now, though, if you and Jordan was to play one-on-one? Because you just said your son's watched you yesterday. Man, who are you talking about? Jordan 101 or it's who dribbled up? Jordan 101, I care. He just said your son's watched you yesterday. Man, who you talking about? Jordan 101 or Jordan 101? Jordan 101, I care.
Starting point is 00:34:27 He's 54. I'm 50. You don't let a 54-year-old man that smokes a cigar beat me. No. Uh-uh. Are your kids allowed to wear other sneakers, other brands? I know during the summer league, we've seen Alonzo wear different sneakers. He wore Kobe one day.
Starting point is 00:34:42 He wore Jordan one day. Are they allowed to? Hey, that's that big baller brand. That's that independence. You want Kobe one day or Jordan one day. Are they allowed to or are they stopped? Hey, that's that big baller brand. That's that independence. You can do what you want. You can wear what you want. I bet you got a closet.
Starting point is 00:34:50 You don't just have one shoe in there. Correct. Unless you endorse her and they say, you better not wear another shoe. If I catch you outside, you lose everything. I'm going to cut your foot off. It's just like, you know how they get some of these guys. They show up to their house with a truckload of
Starting point is 00:35:08 shoes. You can't even wear all them shoes. But we taught like, oh man, they gave me a, I'm going to tell you boys, they showed up to my house with a diesel full of shoes. I got them all. Tell them, take them back and give me the money for them. They ain't going to do that. Say, fill the diesel up with money. They won't do that.
Starting point is 00:35:24 But they figure you can get a lot of guys when you get endorsements and you don't have nothing and you needy. We're not needy. That's what's killing them. Alright, we got more with the Ball family. When we come back to Don't Move, it's the Breakfast Club. Good morning. Good morning, everybody. It's DJ, Envy, Angela Yee, Charlamagne Tha God. We are
Starting point is 00:35:39 the Breakfast Club. We have LaVar Ball and the Ball family in the building. Now, who's better at playing one-on-one? I'm sure you played your wife before. What? How many times has she beat you? What? Murdered her.
Starting point is 00:35:49 Come on, man. I ain't taking it. One-on-one, never lost. LeAngelo, have you seen that before? They're playing loving basketball in the backyard. They're playing for each other's money. I've never seen that. He's never seen it because he's in school.
Starting point is 00:36:01 He better be in school. LaMelo, did you ever want to do anything else other than basketball? No. Him as though did, though. O'Relo, did you ever want to do anything else other than basketball? No. Him and Zo did, though. All right. What you wanted to do, Lansley? No, no. I mean, like, I'm talking for me.
Starting point is 00:36:11 I mean, I play football for fun, but I didn't want to do it over basketball. Like at the park. Tackle. What does Zo want to do? Rap? We all. Well, he used to play baseball, football. It's like for fun. It's nothing to do rap? We all, well, he used to play baseball, football. It's life for fun.
Starting point is 00:36:26 It's nothing to do over basketball. But is that because y'all really loved the game or your father loved the game and you don't want to disappoint him? No, we really loved it.
Starting point is 00:36:33 Like, we've been playing since we were little and just developed a passion for it, so. How many fights did you have to break up as a dad for being so competitive
Starting point is 00:36:40 with these brothers fighting each other? None. None? No fight like that. You know what? This is how I tell my boys, man. It's part of raising them.
Starting point is 00:36:48 Right. I said, man, what you never do is fight your brother. Because when stuff get hard, who are you going to run to? Your family. Why beat up to help? So that's why you have, well, we're lucky enough to have different rooms. You stand in one room, it's kind of hard. Right, right, right. But where we at, everybody got their own room.
Starting point is 00:37:08 You don't like what's going on, go in your room. But never fight your brother. And like I said, if you don't take care of your brother, who will? And even when you watch the show, you don't even feel like that tension or anything. Everybody is so supportive of each other. They've been like that since they've been little.
Starting point is 00:37:23 I'll give you a crazy story. And this is, people look at me, wow. I said, I asked my sons when they're young, when they're like two, three years old, four years old actually. I said, you know what? If a guy comes with a van and he throws Mello or somebody in the van, what are you going to do?
Starting point is 00:37:39 You know what my boys tell me? We're going to come get you. That's what they told me. That's off their head. I said, no, son. How are you going to come get me? By the time you come get me, That's what they told me. That's off their head. I said, no, son. How you going to come get me? By the time you come get me, they're off with your brother. They're off with him. Don't come to me with two of y'all here and talk about the other ones back there. All three of y'all better jump in that van and be dead.
Starting point is 00:37:56 All three of y'all. I don't want nobody coming. That's what I tell them. So they know, yo, it's going to be harder to try to tie up three kids than tie up one. But we all going down. We've always been like that. That's dope. Do you think your wife trusts you so much with the boys, number one, because she knows you're a good
Starting point is 00:38:12 man, but number two, you're in an interracial relationship. Yes. So you can't, she can't raise three black boys. Only a black man can teach a black boy how to be a man. I teach her how to raise them. You know, one of the things they want to do is sometimes moms are like,
Starting point is 00:38:29 you know what, I'm going to let your dad get you. And I was like, no, don't put me in it. You better learn how to handle them. Right. You know, like I told them. But I also told the boys, and that's why people take this the wrong way, too. I said, yo, if you want to disrespect your mom or you want to wake up and tell her, hey, I ain't saying nothing to you. I said, yo, be like that the rest of your life.
Starting point is 00:38:52 Don't wait till you get sick and be like, hey, mom, can I do this? Can I do that? So think about it. How you want to treat her. In every sense, they always respected her and did whatever she wanted. Because I said, ain't going to be no wishy-washy stuff. But I said, if y'all don't want to say nothing, I ain't going to be mad. You ain't got to do nothing to her if you don't want.
Starting point is 00:39:06 I got a question on fall three. I want to start with Lovato. Hypothetically speaking, what if the master plan to get all the boys in the NBA doesn't happen? Would you feel like you failed? No. No. How could I fail?
Starting point is 00:39:17 Walking around here like a millionaire, that's something I built from the bottom. That's why they even talking about, you know, O'Lonzo struggling. I said, how? 20-year-old millionaire playing a game that he loves? Where'd he struggle at? But you know it's not about the money, though. It ain't about the money. That's what these people don't understand. The key to life, I don't think, is
Starting point is 00:39:36 making all the money in the world. Once you done bought everything you want, what's left? You better have a passion for something. And the thing that I like is my boys love to play basketball. And it just so happens that's their livelihood. So they winning. You see what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:39:52 It's just like you guys sitting here, man. You probably used to shoot the breeze on the block, man. Now you guys are getting paid. Oh, yeah. I ain't going to bow here. Exactly. I got crack charges. And you're having a nice time coming here every day, whatever,
Starting point is 00:40:05 and just talking to people and meeting folks. But you was doing that for free back in the day. On the hood, you're like, man, go talk to Sean. He going to let you know what's going on. All you guys, man. But if this is your passion, then you just not like work to y'all. It's not like work at all. See, that's what I'm saying.
Starting point is 00:40:19 So y'all won. Absolutely. So Mello and LiAngelo, would y'all feel like y'all failed if y'all didn't make it to the NBA? No, I don't feel like I failed It's just I mean Like he said
Starting point is 00:40:28 We just love to play really So it's not pressure playing or nothing You just Go out there and do what you love to do What about you Mello? Yeah Same thing he said Now I'm sure that
Starting point is 00:40:39 I'm sure that the ladies love you guys too So What do you guys learn about Dealing with the ladies? There's a lot of ugly women in Lithuania from what I heard too. Shut up, man. But what do you learn at home about relationships? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:40:55 And dealing with the women that are, well, ladies, girls that are coming at you. You know, nothing. We do what he do. Oh, your daddy is Leandro. You can't do what he does. My mom can't do what he do. Oh, your daddy is Leandro. You can't do what he does? My mom can't do what he do. We appreciate So what does that mean? Just monogamous?
Starting point is 00:41:12 As far as do what your dad does? Like pre-women, how he does. But y'all seen a healthy relationship with your mom and father all these years, right? Yeah. And Levi, I gotta ask you, are you gonna cut back on the right? Yeah. And Levi, I got to ask you, are you going to cut back on the sweets? No.
Starting point is 00:41:29 Because this is an OD. Them sweets are good. You ain't playing no ball, you good. If I was playing ball, I'd still get them sweets. Sugar's like an addiction because I know I eat a lot of sweets too. Yes. And sometimes I feel terrible after.
Starting point is 00:41:40 Like, why did I do that? I don't feel terrible after that. This is my last question. What's the plan B in case basketball doesn't work? He told you about plan B. No, no, no. He didn't say what the plan B was. He just said he wouldn't be disappointed.
Starting point is 00:41:50 But what is the plan B? Ain't no plan B. There you go. Ain't no plan B. Because I always thought of this with plan B. If you 80% in plan A and you 20% in plan B, you ain't 100 in. Don't be mad when you don't make it because you worry about a fallback plan. Like I tell my boys, man, we're going to fall back when we fall back.
Starting point is 00:42:08 But here's the thing. People keep talking about the educational thing. Oh, they took them out of school. They're not going to be educated. Wrong. You can take your boys out of school when you got a brand. When you got a brand, you can do what you want. That's us.
Starting point is 00:42:21 We can leave any time we want. The boys are going to be fine. So no plan B. fine. No plan B. Ain't no plan B. Y'all think about that when y'all in Lithuania having sex with some random women, okay? No plan B. No plan B. Well, we appreciate you guys for joining us.
Starting point is 00:42:35 And you want to shout out Sneaker Pond, right? Oh, Sneaker Pond, man. They gave us the best over here on this East Coast, man. My boy Troy, right there off of 14th. Man, that Sneaker Pond. We had a great time, man. He's a heck of a guy. And his son Chase is funny as heck.
Starting point is 00:42:50 I love that guy. But what I like about them two is the independence, how they made their thing grow. Out of a passion of just some sneakers. Oh, you got me saying sneakers now, man. I'm supposed to say tennis shoes. I'm from the East Coast.
Starting point is 00:43:03 I got to say sneakers. When are the women's coming? Man, we got that in line. We got to get our thing going on. I know the clothing's coming, but are we getting the sneakers too? It's coming. You're getting the tennis shoes too. Oh, me getting tennis shoes.
Starting point is 00:43:16 Tennis shoes, all this stuff. We getting it right. You got to drop that woman line, Silk. You know they like to call you a misogynist. Man, they love to say that, but I'm married. I'm cool. They can say what they want. I don't think not having a women's line you a misogynist. Man, they love to say that, but I'm married. I'm cool. They can say what they want. I don't think not having a women's line makes you a misogynist.
Starting point is 00:43:29 I know, but they say it for other things. Some of the things, like I was telling the girl. But listen, if I never told her to stay in your lane, what happens when you don't stay in your lane? You get in a wreck. So that was a warning. Just be quiet and stay in your lane. You good?
Starting point is 00:43:41 It wasn't like, stay in your lane. You a woman. I don't want to talk to you. No, I just didn't want to talk to her. She scares me, man. I watch Saw a lot of times. Now I watch it with a different view on the fact that she scared the hell out of me. She talking about how I scared her?
Starting point is 00:43:52 I can't look at that lady more than once. I don't think people realize how much of a trigger that was when you was talking to Christine Leahy because as a black man in America, we've seen historically so many times white women saying, are you threatening me? Are you threatening me? Hey, face forward. How you threaten somebody behind you? I'm like walking down the street like, I'm getting all y'all.
Starting point is 00:44:09 Like, what? People got mad when I made the comparison to Emmett Till, but I'm like, no, that's the same energy that got Emmett Till killed. Yes, most definitely, man. And like I said, I appreciate you. I know you got your own thing, so you can say what you want. And a lot of people don't have that. That's why these guys be looking at us.
Starting point is 00:44:25 They'll come out there and do this crazy talking on these ESPN shows like little puppets. They trying to make things grow. Going back to that dude Whitlock. You got to work for those guys. So that's why you talking like that. You don't have your own mind. Still get your ass up and do what they
Starting point is 00:44:41 tell you to do. Don't act like you're a boss and you're doing stuff just like he was talking about. Oh, the balls are like the Kardashians. How? They got a good product. Keep your eyes off of them. That's what I'm saying. That sounded crazy.
Starting point is 00:44:59 I just don't understand why people are so invested in seeing y'all lose. It makes no sense to me. I don't get it. I don't see it. You know what? They got to, you know, but it's cool. As long as my boys know what I'm about, I know what they're about, and our close-knit group,
Starting point is 00:45:12 and we just keep going forward, it's hard to stop us, man. So you got to hate. You got to hate on anybody that's successful, just like you guys, man. Hey, we good, man. I appreciate you guys inviting us over here, man. Thank you all.
Starting point is 00:45:24 We're very excited that y'all decided to come stop by here we appreciate you guys it's the Ball family it's the Breakfast Club, good morning the Breakfast Club morning everybody it's DJ N.V. Angela Yee, Charlamagne Tha Guy we are the Breakfast Club
Starting point is 00:45:41 salute to the big baller brand for coming through, LeVar Ball Mello and Jello you know for coming through, LeVar Ball. Yes. Mellow and Jello. You know, people are afraid of LeVar because LeVar not afraid, but you know. Whenever you're the first person stepping out to attempt to do something that people haven't seen before, they're going to call you nuts. You should watch the show Ball and the Family, too. It's a really good show, and it's on Facebook.
Starting point is 00:46:00 I'm going to watch it over the vacation. I'm definitely going to check it out. Yeah, they just started season two. I think it's like three or four episodes in. I see what your big baller brand snapped back on this morning, too. Yes, right. There you go, representing that black entrepreneurship. Why not? Absolutely.
Starting point is 00:46:11 Let's get to the rumors. Let's talk Kendrick Lamar. It's about time. We're starting with no. Rumor report. Rumor report. This is the rumor report. Talk to them.
Starting point is 00:46:21 With Angela Yee on The Breakfast Club. Well, Kendrick Lamar stopped by to talk to Howard Stern, and they had a nice long talk about different topics. In particular, they talked about him working with Taylor Swift. Here's what Kendrick had to say about the song Bad Blood. This particular record, it was just me just vibing and catching her lyrics. I didn't want to get into her head too crazy. I just wanted to have my own inspiration and
Starting point is 00:46:45 see where it took you. So you do a take, does she look at you afterwards and say, okay Kendrick, I like that, but give me two more. Fortunately, the vibe was right and it didn't take too many takes and we was really locked in on the chemistry and we really felt what was going on when I was in the booth. So it was just an energy
Starting point is 00:47:01 and we knocked it out. As if Kendrick Lamar going to listen to Taylor Swift by the rap verse. Do it again, please. You're right. Get out of here with your unseasoned chicken. All right. Well, in addition to that, he talked about almost having a collaboration with Prince. You know, he tried hard to get that to happen, but they did have a nice run in.
Starting point is 00:47:17 Check it out. I played him a record on the air called Complexion. He liked the record. It was at his estate. It was so much going on in the moment, man. I did a show that day with him on stage. I didn't even know I was coming out on stage. The studio was next door where I just played him a song.
Starting point is 00:47:32 We were running back and forth. He didn't tell me I was going out on stage. You just went to see him perform, and you thought you were going to watch a show? It was a meeting, and he was doing an event. He said, you want to watch me on an event? Yeah. I'm out there watching. He said, come on stage.
Starting point is 00:47:46 And made a performance. So I'm up there freestyling and it just turned into something else. I totally forgot about the song after that. Damn. Listen, not many people could get away with just being like, yo, come up on the stage. If you're not Prince status, you can't just go. Yeah, who's going to tell Prince? No.
Starting point is 00:48:02 Nobody. Nobody's going to say, nah, I'm not getting up there. Remember when Kim Kardashian was dancing on stage at the Prince concert? I don't think he asked her to do that. No, he threw her off the stage. I think she little mommied that whole situation. All right. Tiffany Haddish has shot her shot. She was shooting her shot with Trevor Noah.
Starting point is 00:48:18 Now, I don't know if you guys saw this, but she posted on Instagram a picture where she was on with Trevor Noah. She said, I don't usually do this, but what the hell? My man crush Monday at Trevor Noah. She said, I don't usually do this, but what the hell? My man crush Monday at Trevor Noah. Did Trevor respond? I haven't seen his response. Did you? Maybe he sent her a DM. Maybe. I think that would be cute.
Starting point is 00:48:34 That's what he should have left in her captions. Maybe he got a girl. He's staying far away. If your man don't reply to your man crush Monday, he probably got a girl. Can I miss the holiday season? Trevor don't want to your man crush Monday, you probably got a girl. Trevor don't want that smoke. He might wait until after the holiday
Starting point is 00:48:49 because he won't have to buy you a gift. That's true, too. Trevor got it. Wait anyway. Why? It's only two weeks until Christmas. All right, now let me give you an update on what's going on with the NFL Network. We told you about people being named
Starting point is 00:49:02 in a lawsuit and they're all being named by the accuser, Jamie Cantor. Now, she said during her employment, she was subjected to ongoing and continuing sexual harassment. Well, here are some allegations. She said that Marshall Falk, who's currently on air, asked invasive questions about sex, like her favorite position, whether she liked oral sex and whether she dated black men. And then he got more aggressive, inviting her to his hotel room, stroking and pulling out his genitals in front of her, pointing to his crotch and asking, when are you going to get on this already? She said at one
Starting point is 00:49:30 point, he even pushed her against a wall and demanded oral sex while he pulled his pants down. Ike Taylor, who is also suspended, he's an on-air talent, he said that, she said he sent sexually inappropriate pictures of himself and a nude video that he had masturbating in the shower. Warren Sapp. What's up with masturbation, man? Why do video that he had masturbating in the shower.
Starting point is 00:49:45 Warren Sapp. What's up with masturbation, man? Why do these guys like to masturbate in front of women? I don't know, because it's not like we're going to want to join in with you because it looks so appealing. It's really kind of like disgusting. What are you doing, you know? Warren Sapp, he's a former on-air talent, came into the restroom while she was preparing her clothes and urinated in front of her, and then she told him to get out, and he said, sorry, mama, but your office shouldn't be our isher.
Starting point is 00:50:07 And he is also accused of giving her sex toys for Christmas three years in a row. There's a lot of different accusations out here, but a lot of nude pictures being sent, a lot of groping, grabbing, all kinds of things. Donovan McNabb said she looks like the kind of girl that squirted when
Starting point is 00:50:23 getting effed. What the hell is going on? I promise you, man. These people look crazy. I don't care. I've never been that thirsty in my life, like in real life. Sheesh. Like never.
Starting point is 00:50:33 I just can't. Goodness gracious. I can't even imagine having these conversations with people like, where do you go after that? You look like the kind of girl that squirts. Then what? You get fired and go home.
Starting point is 00:50:43 That's what happens. What do you expect the response to be? Yeah, I do squirt all Then what? You get fired and go home. That's what happens. What do you expect the response to be? Yeah, I do squirt all the time. Maybe they do get those responses. I don't freaking know, man. All right, well,
Starting point is 00:50:50 I'm Angela Yee and that is your Rumor Reports. All right, Charlemagne. Yes. Don't get a day up next. Listen, man, Ted Crockett,
Starting point is 00:50:57 who is the campaign spokesman for Roy Moore, Roy Moore, who lost in Alabama yesterday, dropped on a clues bomb for Roy Moore, losing, damn it. Boy, does that sound
Starting point is 00:51:04 like a bomb to you? It's coming. It's coming. It for Roy Moore. Losing, damn it. Boy, does that sound like a bomb to you? It's coming. It's coming. It's coming. All right. There you go. The moment has passed. Ted Crockett, before after the hour, Donkey of the Day.
Starting point is 00:51:14 All right. And don't forget, Dutchess from Black Ink Crew will be joining us next hour, too. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning. Good morning. Charlemagne, say the gang, Donkey of the Day. Charlemagne. You are a donkey. It's gang, donkey of the day. Charlamagne. You are a donkey.
Starting point is 00:51:26 It's time for Donkey of the Day. Donkey of the Day does not discriminate. I might not have the song of the day, but I got the donkey of the day. So if you ever feel I need to be a donkey, man, hit me with the heat. It's a breakfast club, bitch. Who's donkey of the day today? My goodness. Well, Mr. Ed Sheeran, Donkey of the Day for Wednesday, December 13th
Starting point is 00:51:46 goes to Roy Moore's campaign spokesman, Ted Crockett. Now, I could have given it to all of you in Alabama who voted for Roy Moore, the 72% of white men who voted for him, the 63% of white women who voted for him, the 6% of black men who voted for him, and the 2% of black women who voted for him, but that's your business, okay?
Starting point is 00:52:04 I don't know how you justify voting for an alleged pedophile, but I don't understand how people justify supporting R. Kelly after all these years, but whatever, okay? I do wish that they would release the number of registered sex offenders who voted for Roy Moore. I would love to see that strictly for research purposes, but F all that,
Starting point is 00:52:20 okay? Y'all have to deal with your own karma, but Ted Crockett, Roy Moore's campaign spokesman, was on CNN with Jake Tappel last night night and they started going back and forth with each other on whether or not Muslims should serve in Congress. Now, if you're watching this on Revolt TV, you can see the video. OK, if you ride in your car or listening to us on the iHeartRadio app, you can go to my Instagram, see the God, C-T-H-A-G-O-D and watch the video. But just know that if you can hear this audio, that the audio I'm about to play is not edited, okay? You are about to hear what it sounds like when the cat got somebody tongue, okay? You are about to hear what it sounds like for someone to truly say less, all right?
Starting point is 00:53:00 The silence you are about to hear during this conversation is what happens when a donkey is caught in the headlights. Let's listen to Jake Tapper and Ted Crockett go back and forth on CNN, please. Judge Moore has also said that he doesn't think a Muslim member of Congress should be allowed to be in Congress. Why? Under what? Under what? Because you have to swear on the Bible. You when you you when you are, I had to do it. I'm an elected official, three terms. I had to swear on a Bible.
Starting point is 00:53:31 You have to swear on a Bible to be an elected official in the United States of America. He alleges that a Muslim cannot do that ethically, swearing on the Bible. You don't actually have to swear on a Christian Bible. You can swear on anything, really. I don't know if you knew that. You to swear on a Christian Bible. You can swear on anything, really. I don't know if you knew that. You can swear on a Jewish Bible. Oh, no. I swore on the Bible.
Starting point is 00:53:50 I've done it three times. I'm sure you have. I'm sure you've picked a Bible, but the law is not that you have to swear on a Christian Bible. That is not the law. You don't know that? All right. Ted Crockett. I know that Donald Trump did, Ted Crockett. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:54:08 I know that Donald Trump did it when we made him president. Because he's Christian and he picked it. That's what he wanted to swear in on. Ted Crockett with the Moore campaign. Good luck tonight. Thank you so much for being here. That was awkward. Let me tell you something, my brothers.
Starting point is 00:54:21 I'm sure y'all can relate to this. Have you ever been confronted by your significant other for cheating? Not that she think you cheating. I'm talking that she done went through your phone. She know the first and last name of the chick. She know every place you've been with the chick for the past six months. She got all the evidence. And then she looks you in the eye and says,
Starting point is 00:54:41 how long you been sleeping with her? And you can't lie. Because she know. You know she got you. So you just sit there with the Ted Crockett face. Alright? This is a great example of life. Alright? I tell you all the time, we live in an era where it's not about
Starting point is 00:54:59 Republican versus Democrat, conservative versus liberal, black versus white. It's about right versus wrong, good versus evil, God versus Satan. And at this crucial time in history, we have to all ask ourselves which side we want to be on. And what you just saw is when you get caught on the wrong side. See, what happened with Ted Crockett is when you know in your heart what's right and what's wrong, but you still choose to do the wrong thing. In Ted Crockett's case, he was attempting to defend the wrong thing, but at some
Starting point is 00:55:26 point, the lies must end and the truth must begin. And God gave Ted Crockett a chance in that moment to do and say the right thing. But just like his man, Roy Moore, who he is a campaign spokesman for, he just can't concede defeat, even though he
Starting point is 00:55:41 clearly lost in front of all America. Kids, if you're wrong, own up to what you didn't do right. Okay? That's how you learn and earn respect. So Republican Party, conservatives, if you are wondering why people are losing respect for your party, look no further than
Starting point is 00:55:57 the mirror. Please give Ted Crockett, campaign spokesman for Roy Moore, the biggest hee-haw, please. Alright. Well then. Alright, well thank you for that Moore, the biggest hee-haw police. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. All right. Well, then. All right. Well, thank you for that donkey of the day.
Starting point is 00:56:13 Now, when we come back, we have Duchess from Black Ink Crew. Now, if you remember, Cesar, did he come this week or last week? Last week he came up? Yeah, he was here last week. Cesar came up here last week. Because that's when the new season of Black Ink started. So he was kicking it off. He talked about their relationship with Duchess and how he gave her her new tattoo shop and more. So we're going to talk about all that and more.
Starting point is 00:56:30 And there was a lot of drama on this last episode with Sky and Duchess and Sky's son being interviewed in Duchess's shop. Yeah, I haven't watched Black Ink crew in a long time, but I'm here for the mess. That's all I'm here for. You guys. I'm just here for the mess, man.
Starting point is 00:56:43 I just heard it was messy, so I wanted to jump in. I just heard it was messy, so I decided to show up. That's all. Oh, my goodness. I'm just messy over mess. Okay. That's all I'm here for. All right. I'm just here for the mess, man. I just heard it was messy. I just heard it was messy, so I decided to show up. That's all. Oh, my goodness. I heard it's messy over here. All right. When we come back, keep it locked. It's The Breakfast Club.
Starting point is 00:56:51 Good morning. The Breakfast Club. Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy, Angela Yee, Charlamagne Tha God. We are The Breakfast Club. We have Gossip Viv here in the building. Hey, Al. Envy said it right.
Starting point is 00:57:05 Envy said it right. And we said it right. And also, she's been spewing flames since she got here. This is Duchess from Black Ink Crew. But formerly. Formerly. From Black Ink Crew. Yes, you have. I've been smiling and having a great morning.
Starting point is 00:57:16 She came in here with Cesar's STD results. This is crazy, man. Stop lying, Charlamagne. Stop lying. This is crazy, Duchess. What you doing? All right, so you know the new season of Black Ink has started. And we did have Cesar up here to promote that.
Starting point is 00:57:28 And he said you're trying to get half of his business. And that's why he has an issue. Can I address that? Yes. So, anyone who knows me knows that I'm from the South. And I come from a two-parent married family. Correct. In order to get half of something, you would have to marry the person.
Starting point is 00:57:44 You have to be married. The first thing that I did in season five was give him the ring back. That means I have no intention of wanting half because I didn't marry you. I would have married you and followed through with the plot that VH1 suggested if I wanted half. So VH1 wanted y'all to get married and it took half? VH1, well, excuse me, let me say it correctly. Big Fish Productions kept pressuring me to set a date for a wedding. And I'm like, we're not ready to get married.
Starting point is 00:58:12 There's certain things that we need to do before we even get to that point. So I never would set a date. So then they're like, well, y'all either going to have to break up or get married. How can you give someone that type of ultimatum when this is our real life? Yeah, this is life. I'm not going to marry somebody because y'all think it's great for your ratings. So we can get a wedding special and y'all going to pay for it and
Starting point is 00:58:33 it can be a destination wedding and all of this stuff. None of that stuff mattered to me. What mattered to me is that I don't get married and have to get divorced. So that's why I didn't get married and I would not set a date. So they went through all of this foolishness to cause problems in our relationship that made me just exhausted
Starting point is 00:58:49 from it that I wanted to walk away. I needed to get away from the chaos. So either way they got their storyline, whether y'all got married or y'all broke up, one of their two options played out. It had to happen and they definitely forced those interactions. So if I wanted half of anything seized C's, I'm so sorry.
Starting point is 00:59:07 But you don't know what marriage is because all of y'all parents don't know what that institution is. They've never been married. C's mother is married, but it's not to his father. Y'all don't really understand that, and I get it. But everybody else in the human population that has a little bit of logic knows that in order for you to get half you have to jump the broom you have to get married are certain
Starting point is 00:59:31 states different though like if you got common law marriage common law New York is where we lived and where it would have everything would have been in the state of New York that is not it in the state of New York if I would have married him, our both incomes would have been part of his child support. In the state of North Carolina, it's not like that. If we was in North Carolina, his child support is his child support. But in New York, the household income is what child support
Starting point is 00:59:56 is based off of. So all of these things was reasons why I'm like, I don't know if I want to agree to living this type of life forever. Well, what did you want from him? If you didn't want to have, did you want something from him? I wanted peace. I wanted to walk away and have peace, which is what I have not had this entire time.
Starting point is 01:00:14 Y'all haven't seen me post anything about them since the breakup. No interaction in social media. I haven't seen them in the physical form. We haven't, I haven't filmed with them. I've had no communication with these people. Have they tried to film with you? Yes. I have text messages. I also at the end of that you see that. I saw an agreement
Starting point is 01:00:34 here. So Big Fish offered me a. Now Big Fish if you don't know is a production company that shoots in my people. I got a couple shows with them. I see a development agreement for I see a development agreement for... I see a development agreement here for Pretty in Ink. So it's a development deal.
Starting point is 01:00:49 Well, it's not a job. Now, what does that mean? Partnership. Well, you know what I'm saying. You're working together. Yes, we're working together. So that means that they were offering me a spinoff. Do you see my signature?
Starting point is 01:00:59 Do you see my signature on that paperwork? No, there's no signatures. There's no signature because I did not want to do this. Really? I did not want to do this. I? I did not want to do this. I really want to be happy. I really want to have peace.
Starting point is 01:01:09 I'm in North Carolina living my life. I have the most amazing people around me right now. I'm back in school. I finished this summer. I got too much other things that I'm doing that nobody else knows about. You said that Big Fish or whoever was creating these different scenarios for y'all to break up. Now, when Cesar was here,
Starting point is 01:01:28 he said he don't know where these pictures came from, right? They could have airdropped them in his phone now that I'm thinking about it. It was on the computer
Starting point is 01:01:35 and they was... They could have put them on the computer. Where these pictures come from, Duchess? Okay, so let me tell you about me. Me and Cesar,
Starting point is 01:01:43 there's a copy of our lease for our apartment when we live. Look, I's a copy of our lease for our apartment. I'm not playing. This is what I feel like. If people are going to come in here and be able to tell lies, y'all got to make them come in here with some support. All right, I agree. I'm sorry.
Starting point is 01:01:57 You can't just come in here and slander someone's name and you have no substantiating evidence to support it. That's bull. So I have a copy of our lease. Exhibit A, what is that? Exhibit A. Is there pictures on the lease? That lease, I bet you $1,000.
Starting point is 01:02:11 Big Fish cannot provide a location agreement for filming in that space. You know why? Because after they filmed in our first apartment in Brooklyn and they showed their air mattress on the TV show, I said, oh, no, no, no, they ain't coming back in my house. So no one had access to our computers because no one had been in my home. And I made sure of that
Starting point is 01:02:31 because of the previous experiences we had with them taking stuff and making you look worse than what you... They didn't say, oh, the air mattress is because C's cousin is staying with us and he ain't got nowhere to sleep. They didn't say that. They made it look like we sleeping on our mattress.
Starting point is 01:02:45 They didn't even film in our bedroom. You understand what I'm saying? What season was this? This was season two. Oh, okay. So y'all just getting started. So if y'all going to play games like that, I'm like an elephant.
Starting point is 01:02:56 I ain't forgot. So I'm thinking, well, if they come in here with a camera this time, maybe they'll make this look like that. They'll look that like that. No, y'all can't come in my house. Nope. Sorry.
Starting point is 01:03:04 There's no filming in our home. You want to film with us in our home? Get us an Airbnb. So all the apartments, I'm going to go on and put that out there. All the apartments that y'all see on Black Ink, these folks don't be living in there. We know that. They be Airbnbs. They be straight up Airbnbs.
Starting point is 01:03:19 So don't believe the hype, y'all. Now, one thing that Cesar did say was he said that, okay, he admitted that he cheated on you, but he said you cheated on him also, and that played out on the show as well. Exhibit C, go ahead. Okay, so, let me ask you this. What paperwork you got for that one? When C's cheated on me,
Starting point is 01:03:37 I called him. He didn't answer the phone. I called the girl. She answers the phone. I said, could you please hand C's the phone? And she handed him the girl. She answers the phone. I said, could you please hand seize the phone? And she handed him the phone. So you got official caught, bro. You can't deny that. You talking about fans that took a picture with me
Starting point is 01:03:57 and didn't want to say I was messing with Dutchess. The dude ain't take no picture in my bed. He ain't take no picture in my apartment. He took a picture in my tattoo shop with his arm around my shoulder like a fan. And it wasn't me. Like, come on. Y'all know how many pictures. I just took pictures in y'all's lobby.
Starting point is 01:04:14 Like, come on. I take these pictures all the time. I can't help that the dude felt that he needed to express his fame, his hunger for fame. Like, bruh, you don't even have a personal pic of me. If I'm messing with you, show me some text messages. Show me a naked pic. Show me something that's going to make me believe that I really was messing with you. If you don't have that, I cannot go buy a fan pic.
Starting point is 01:04:37 I can't. Now, what did Ceaser say when the girl handed him the phone? Well, what did you say to Ceaser? Please come and get your stuff. And then y'all watched me carry all them sneakers and put them on the corner. And then the police came and said, Duchess, you're gonna go to
Starting point is 01:04:54 jail if you keep these shoes on the corner and somebody steal one sneaker from him, we have to take you to jail. So then, I had to carry all the daggone sneakers back to my house. No, but instead of carrying them to the walk-in closet, I carried them right to that living room front door because as soon as he get here, he can just take them right to the car.
Starting point is 01:05:11 Did he deny it at all? He couldn't. He was into the clothes. I'm giving her a tattoo. Hold on. Let me get you further, D. The girl that Cease cheated on me with sent Big Fish, along with Ceaser, a cease and desist
Starting point is 01:05:23 so that they could not speak her name on the show Wow So they used Tiffany who was a producer at the time and had her sit in the car and fake kiss sees on camera as if she was the girl Wow So y'all wanna talk about real let's talk about real Y'all using producers to be cast members when y'all thirsty can't when y'all so thirsty y'all can't get a story Alright we got more with Duchess and Gossip Viv when we come back. Keep it locked.
Starting point is 01:05:48 It's The Breakfast Club. Good morning. Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy Angela Yee, Charlamagne Tha Guy. We are The Breakfast Club. We have Duchess from Black Ink Crew in the building, also Gossip Viv. Charlamagne? Now, what about the accusation that she's got somebody pregnant?
Starting point is 01:06:02 Big Fish needing storylines. If y'all paid attention to that whole scenario on show, did y'all see me even hurt by the girl talking about having a baby? No. You actually didn't seem
Starting point is 01:06:12 like you believed it. You needed some evidence. Okay. Thank you. So you knew it was a lie. My thing is this. You telling me your sister was pregnant by Cease.
Starting point is 01:06:19 Why is your sister not here? Right. Like, all of it. Don't it sound like a lie? Your sister not here, but your sister not here? Right. Like, all of it. Don't it sound like a lot? Your sister not here, but your sister was the one pregnant. Like, what is going on here? And you pay attention to the mannerisms.
Starting point is 01:06:34 Pay attention to how I am. Because y'all know, I'm the animated, hyped up. When I'm passionate about something, you know I'm passionate about something. Yes. Y'all watch me straight sit back like, what is this girl talking about?
Starting point is 01:06:43 Yeah, I was like, she's not mad at all. Are we done? Is filming commenced for today because I want to go home? Basically, you was tired of being fake. I can't do it.
Starting point is 01:06:52 Yeah, I get it. Let's get to the meat of this because something just happened. No, this is why I got some exhibit hair also. Exhibit D, no. Judge. You did an interview recently
Starting point is 01:07:01 and that interview was in Duchess's Tattoo Shop. Right. Pretty in ink. Mm-hmm. And it was with Sky's son. Sky has not seen her son in 15 years. I don't know.
Starting point is 01:07:11 And she was planning to reunite with her child. When he was 18, that's what she said, right? Yeah, she had a plan. She said that she wanted to reunite with him when he was 18, right? A gentleman by the name of Genesis. She said when he turns 18, she wants to reach out to them because that's when the adoption stuff, that's what she said. So what happened?
Starting point is 01:07:29 The boy's 19 years old. That's all. That's just single math, simple math. Okay, so, you know, she gave her kids up for adoption and hasn't seen them. And so Gossip Bibb did an interview with Sky's son, and that was in your tattoo shop. And now Sky is mad at both of y'all.
Starting point is 01:07:44 Okay, so can I just say one thing first? Number one, Sky, the first lie you lied about was the fact that they're twin boys. One son is 17. One son is 19. That's not twins. I don't know how your uterus can contract them type of twins. I'm just saying. I ain't
Starting point is 01:07:59 never seen a uterus like that. I'm just saying. So that's the first lie. The second lie, you said that you gave your kids to a family for a better life. Right. Your son at 19 years old was released from a juvenile detention center. That does not sound like a better life to me. You said that your sons had been all around the world and your son said to me he thought Dubai was
Starting point is 01:08:28 a motorcycle when he saw it on TV. He was in a juvenile detention center. He meant Ducati. Yeah. The guys up here making sticks like that. He thought Lithuania was a battery. No, Dubai and Ducati ain't nothing alike.
Starting point is 01:08:43 My only question was, do you even have a passport? He said no. So all of these things that your mother said about you was really just so that she could have a storyline because this little boy's life did not reflect the things that she made us believe. He's getting ready for reality TV. My whole thing was this. The father is from Durham, North Carolina.
Starting point is 01:09:03 Durham, North Carolina is about an hour and a half away from Charlotte. I thought Durham was a motorcycle. You know about North Carolina so well. I know, I know, I know. So he's from Durham, North Carolina, the father. His mother, everybody in his life is in Durham, North Carolina. When he got the little boy out of the detention center, they came to North Carolina to see his family.
Starting point is 01:09:26 And then they came to my tattoo shop. I don't know Sky's baby daddy, and I don't know her son. If she lied about the fact that she had twins, and that's not the baby daddy we seen on the show, how could I know who this man was? If she said she was looking for her kids and couldn't find them, how can I find them?
Starting point is 01:09:42 I didn't even birth them. So what you gonna do when Sky come get this fade, Duchess? I am not. I'm a grown woman and I'm a business woman. I don't fight. I don't fight. You got haters for that? I don't need nothing. I don't need none of that. What I need you to do is not focus on the location of this interview being my shop.
Starting point is 01:09:58 I need you to focus on what your child has said because he is screaming for your attention. He don't care about me, this show, Viv, this attention. He don't care about me, this show, Viv, this interview. He don't care about nothing but having the attention and love from his mother who he's watched be on TV with her hanging out, who he's watched be on TV talking about sucking and doing all of this type stuff, who he's watched be on TV get a new vagina before she even wrote him a letter.
Starting point is 01:10:25 Yikes. These are the things that the issues are. The issue is not where the location of the interview is. The issue is, why is it okay for someone to create a false storyline? And when the child is now an adult and wants to understand that, he can't say nothing.
Starting point is 01:10:39 Why bring the kids into a situation like this? Some people have said it's too much to bring her son. We didn't bring anything. They came to my tattoo shop. Wow. The only thing I wanted was for that situation to be told the truth. I hate the fact that people are looking at me like I'm a terrible person because Sky and Cease are tearing me down.
Starting point is 01:11:00 Right. These are the same people that have built storylines off of lies. So how can y'all sit here and eat up everything that they're saying about me? I'm gonna be honest with you, I don't listen to exes Like even when Cesar's here But my G, who talks about an ex? Do you talk about an ex? An ex is an ex, right? Well, when I go check on her on Facebook to make sure she's still doing bad
Starting point is 01:11:17 Yes, I do say, like, damn, she got fat But do you say it publicly? No, no, no, no My thing is, what type of man feel like they need to bash a woman if they put a ring on their finger? That's real. This is character traits, y'all.
Starting point is 01:11:28 Real Gs. I don't talk to a lot of real Gs. Did he bash? That's just the way I don't think. He did say he still cares about you
Starting point is 01:11:34 and he still has love. I'm going to tell you where he bashed me. He bashed me when he said he gave me pretty in ink. Now, exhibit G-E-F-H-I-K, whatever. She got the whole alphabet.
Starting point is 01:11:43 Get to that exhibit. Okay, so Pretty in Ink So he didn't give you Pretty in Ink Let me tell you something For him to give me Pretty in Ink That means he has to own the land right I have a landlord His name is Greg Papanastos
Starting point is 01:11:55 He is a white man That's Greek It is Argos Realty That is the copy of my lease The lease ain't even in my name The lease is in my LLC's name which sees has absolutely nothing to do so in order for you to give me something
Starting point is 01:12:10 you would have had to own it I don't own it I don't even own it so how did you give it to me oh look at this producer though she was pissed off about this maybe he's saying he gave you the money for the business not the land
Starting point is 01:12:21 maybe he's saying he gave you the money for the business he didn't give me nothing and if you got proof of the money see the money that I have proof of the money, see, the money that I have proof of, I have the receipts in there of when I paid for child support.
Starting point is 01:12:29 I got receipts that you saw. You got a lot of child support payments in here. Thank you. I have proof when I paid the light bill
Starting point is 01:12:36 at Black Ink, which is not my shop. Hold on, you paid to see the child support form? It was on the show and I have the receipts of when I did it
Starting point is 01:12:41 more than just the time that it was on the show. How much was it if you paid it? I'm not going to say it. Go ahead and say it. Look at the check stub. About $20,000 worth. But what was the amount of each payment?
Starting point is 01:12:54 $230. He had to pay $230 for child support. Now y'all tell me if that's a boss. You tell me he couldn't pay $230. Angela, are you looking at the paperwork? I'm looking at it. $230. See, he's throwing stuff right now. You ever seen that author meme when his author got his fist balled up?
Starting point is 01:13:09 That's for you somewhere right now. Listen, are you still- My thing is, I just don't want people bashing me that don't have substantiating evidence. Y'all, everything that they saying about me, all they doing is sitting here saying the stuff. Show me when I- Show me the legal documentation when I asked you for half a black ink. Now, let me ask you this. Show me the legal documentation when I asked you for half a black ink. Now, let me ask you this. Show me a lawyer that's willing to lose their state bar license
Starting point is 01:13:30 because they're going to tell a lie for you. Now, Duchess, watching this new season, does it hurt? Because you guys were engaged and in love and thought you were going to get married to see him wiling out with all these different women. That was my piece. I'm grateful. That showed me the bullet I dodged. You feel me?
Starting point is 01:13:45 I wasn't for him. You don't miss him at all, huh? Because I'm not the type of woman that he chooses. You don't miss him? No, I can't say that. I know you grabbed his stomach. No, no, no. You grabbed his stomach like you ain't something.
Starting point is 01:13:56 Let me tell you why. Let me tell you this. No, Charlamagne. Charlamagne, I'm going to tell you why. There's a plot twist. No. When you've been good to somebody, see, what I'm not going to do is bash him or berate him or belittle him. I'm not going to do that.
Starting point is 01:14:08 I was there. I was invested in him. You was in love. I was in love. But after seeing the behaviors and seeing how you allow people, I'm so sorry, but there's no person in my life that I feel that much disdain for that I would allow somebody to drag if I really was invested with them. The fact that he's carrying on in these behaviors, he's made it so easy for me to get over him. True.
Starting point is 01:14:29 He's made it too easy for me to get over him. You still dating the Carolina Panthers, Zack Snyder? No. That's been, come on now. Okay. That's been dead. And it was never we was dating. It was we was getting to know each other.
Starting point is 01:14:44 Like, I'm a single woman. I can't get to know. No, that we was dating. It was we was getting to know each other. Like, I'm a single woman. I can't get to know. No, no, that's not dating. Dating is when you decide that you want to commit and be there with each other. No, that's a relationship. Dating is going out. Dating is going out. That's a relationship you're talking about.
Starting point is 01:14:54 That's still just dating. Oh, well, y'all know I'm a country girl. Our levels of this stuff is different. Are you serious right now? No, I'm not. No, that's been over and done with. That just got all kind of received. Give me some proof. Last question. Is that Cesar's name you have under your neck right now? No, that'm not. No, that's been over and done with. Dutchess got all kinds of receipts over here.
Starting point is 01:15:06 Give me some proof. Last question. Is that Caesar's name you have under your neck right now? No, that is not. It says, I pray for those who pray on me. Okay. All right, well, there you have it. There you have it. It's Duchess.
Starting point is 01:15:16 What am I? Attorney Duchess. I ever go to court, I'm bringing Duchess with me. Exhibit A. God severe, we thank you. And tell them when to pick up your book one more time. Oh, my book, my book. Yes.
Starting point is 01:15:25 So y'all know I'm not bashing nobody's mother. I'm telling people how to be a better mother. That's all. Somebody should pick that book up. Amazon.com, how I came to accept him. Loving your child for who they are. Ooh, love them for who they are. All them deadbeat parents out there, pick up Viv's book.
Starting point is 01:15:41 It might give you a little pointer on how you can get your life back right with your child well damn my goodness there you have it I don't even have no kids it's the Breakfast Club good morning the Breakfast Club everybody it's DJ Envy Angela Yee Charlamagne the guy we are the Breakfast Club now let me shout out out to a church in Newark, New Jersey. Love of Jesus Church. Yesterday I went to Bible study. Congratulations.
Starting point is 01:16:09 I went to Bible study yesterday. I did a Toys for Tiles at the church and then they had Bible study next door so I went in there for Bible study for a couple hours.
Starting point is 01:16:16 I prayed for you guys yesterday, man. Look at somebody trying to make sure Santa puts them on their nice list this year. I want to make sure I get to heaven, man.
Starting point is 01:16:23 I was praying for you guys, man. I prayed for you. So you're doing this with the ulterior motive of making sure. No, I was praying for everybody. That needed prayers. So you weren't praying for us to pray for us. You were praying for us to make sure you get to heaven. No, I want to get to heaven, but I was praying for you so you could have a happy holiday. Who you know came from heaven
Starting point is 01:16:41 and told you that it exists? Okay? I did. Who you know went there, came back and said, you know what, there's a heaven up there. It's popping. I walked out of heaven. Chick-fil-A's open on Sundays in heaven. It might be. Can I do rumors? I'm not having this conversation. I just want to say I prayed for you. Oh, thank you. I appreciate the prayer. I don't know if you're a beige
Starting point is 01:16:55 God and listens to me, but, you know, thank you. You know what? You know what? Kodak black in the rumors. Let's go. Listen up. It's just the end. All the gossip. The's go. Listen up. It's just in. All the gossip. Gossip. The rumor report. Gossip.
Starting point is 01:17:07 Gossip. With Angela Yee. It's the rumor report. The Breakfast Club. Well, Kodak Black posted, real-ish be going on, none of that hopscotch-ish. What? And he did a rap in the 90s versus rap. Now, if you have Revolt TV, you can see the post that Kodak Black did.
Starting point is 01:17:23 Now, he posted Jay-Z, money cash hoes, money cash hoes, what? Money cash hoes, money cash hoes, uh. And he put that, that's DMX's verse on money cash hoes. That's not even the verse. That's the hook of the song. I don't know why he would choose this particular hook. And then he posted about himself. Can I ball?
Starting point is 01:17:41 Can I chill? Can I stunt? Will I live long enough to raise my son? Made something out of nothing. Ain't nothing where I'm from. Can your boy do something productive for once and where make it,
Starting point is 01:17:49 they're going to want to take it. Money don't change it, but it do drive you crazy. Listen here, Kodak Black. I personally like Kodak Black's music, but Kodak Black, you are absolute trash
Starting point is 01:17:56 compared to Jay-Z. And I don't know why you would pick a hook of a record to go off against the actual verse that you spit, but you need to go back
Starting point is 01:18:05 and listen to some 90s Jay-Z. But you can't really be too hard on him because clearly he had to listen to too much Ove in his life. Yeah, he just knows that one hook
Starting point is 01:18:12 and that just didn't make sense to me, but there's nothing wrong with you saying that your lyrics mean something. You don't got to try to compare it to...
Starting point is 01:18:18 Call up one of your OGs in Florida. Call up Rick Ross. Call up Trick Daddy. Call up somebody who knows... Call up Plyze. Call up Plyze. Call up somebody who knows rap a little more than you, Kodak.
Starting point is 01:18:27 Or rap from previous generations. All right, now, DeRay McKesson is going to be suing Janine Perro from Fox News. Now, he is saying that he posted on Twitter, I was found not guilty and I didn't direct any violence. In fact, I was protesting the violence of the police. Stop lying. Here's what Deneen Perro had to say to cause him to sue. This particular case, Ray McKesson,
Starting point is 01:18:52 the organizer, actually was directing people, directing the violence. So can you sue him? Yeah, you can sue him, but guess what? The judge said, you know what? He was engaging in protected free speech. Now I want you to guess who appointed
Starting point is 01:19:07 this federal judge. Ronald Reagan? No. Didn't think so. Barack Obama. Get him, DeRay. Get him, DeRay. DeRay. DeRay. Know what I'm talking about. Go get him, DeRay. All right.
Starting point is 01:19:23 So yes, you absolutely should sue for her just saying anything, spouting anything out of her mouth. All right. Go get them. Now, Chance the Rapper was on Sesame Street. Super Cutie popped by there. He did a brief appearance. He got to...
Starting point is 01:19:35 Did you just call him a Super Cutie? I said a Super Cute Appearance. Oh. He was on Sesame Street. That's cute. I thought you said Super Cutie popped by there. I was like, wow. She did say that.
Starting point is 01:19:43 She did say that. That's what she said. She did say that. She did say that. That's what she said. She did say that. I said he did a super cute appearance. Okay. And he stopped by Sesame Street, and he was talking to Oscar the Grouch. He said, I'm sick of people saying my music is trash. And he also shouted out his daughter as he got to hang out with Cookie Monster Elmo.
Starting point is 01:19:59 And, okay, clearly, I don't know who's Abby Cadabby. Is that an original cast member? That's the one right there out there, right? The little pink one. Was she always on? No. Okay, clearly, I don't know who's Abby Cadabby. Is that an original cast member? That's the one right there, right? The little pink one. Was she always on? No. Okay, just checking. All right, here's how it went.
Starting point is 01:20:10 Look, everybody. It's Kinsley. Hi, Kinsley. Look who we're with. Look at her. We're with your daddy. We're just hanging out on Sesame Street. Hey, will you give her a hug from us?
Starting point is 01:20:23 I will give. I'm going to give you a big hug when I get home. I can't wait to see you. We love you. We love you. Have a magical day. See you tomorrow. Bye-bye.
Starting point is 01:20:32 Can you imagine as a little kid seeing your dad on Sesame Street and all the Sesame Street characters shouting you out? That would be dope. It depends if you care
Starting point is 01:20:38 about Sesame Street or not. I'm sure his daughter was at home watching that and was so excited. How old's his daughter? She's a little baby. How old is she, like three? I don't know. Alright, well I'm Angela Yee and that is your
Starting point is 01:20:50 Rumor Report. Alright, thank you Ms. Yee Revolt. Shout out to you guys. We'll see you tomorrow. Everybody else, the People's Choice Mix is up next. Let us know what you want to hear. We'll get you requested. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning. Had enough of this country? Ever dreamt about starting your own? I planted the flag. This is mine.
Starting point is 01:21:05 I own this. It's surprisingly easy. 55 gallons of water, 500 pounds of concrete. Or maybe not. No country willingly gives up their territory. Oh my God. What is that? Bullets.
Starting point is 01:21:17 Listen to Escape from Zakistan. That's Escape from Z-A-Q-istan on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey guys, I'm Kate Max. You might know me from my popular online series, The Running Interview Show, where I run with celebrities, athletes, entrepreneurs, and more. After those runs, the conversations keep going. That's what my podcast Post Run High is all about. It's a chance to sit down with my guests and dive even deeper into their stories,
Starting point is 01:21:53 their journeys, and the thoughts that arise once we've hit the pavement together. Listen to Post Run High on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. As a kid, I really do remember having these dreams and visions, but you just don't know what is going to come for you. Alicia shares her wisdom on growth, gratitude, and the power of love. I forgive myself. It's okay. Have grace for yourself. You're trying your best, and you're going to figure out the rhythm of this thing.

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