The Breakfast Club - Lean into the Love (Head Of Instagram Adam Mosseri)
Episode Date: July 28, 2021Today on the show we had Head Of Instagram Adam Mosseri stop by, where he spoke about Combatting Hate Speech, Bots, Racism and Algorithm Myths on IG. Also, Charlamagne gave "Donkey of the Day" to two ...woman who robbed a woman in a wheel chair, and you won't believe what they decided to steal from her. Also, we opened up the phone lines to see what our listeners thought about Dababy controversy comments at the Rolling Loud concert. Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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Had enough of this country?
Ever dreamt about starting your own?
I planted the flag. This is mine. I own this.
It's surprisingly easy.
55 gallons of water, 500 pounds of concrete.
Or maybe not.
No country willingly gives up their territory.
Oh my God.
What is that?
Bullets.
Listen to Escape from Zakistan.
We need help!
That's Escape from Z-A-Q-istan on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you
get your podcasts. Hey guys, I'm Kate Max. You might know me from my popular online series,
The Running Interview Show, where I run with celebrities, athletes, entrepreneurs, and more.
After those runs, the conversations keep going. That's what my podcast
Post Run High is all about. It's a chance to sit down with my guests and dive even deeper into
their stories, their journeys, and the thoughts that arise once we've hit the pavement together.
Listen to Post Run High on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
As a kid, I really do remember having these dreams and visions,
but you just don't know what is going to come for you.
Alicia shares her wisdom on growth, gratitude, and the power of love.
I forgive myself.
It's okay.
Have grace with yourself.
You're trying your best.
And you're going to figure out the rhythm of this thing.
Alicia Keys, like you've never
heard her before. Listen to
On Purpose with Jay Shetty on the
iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts,
or wherever you get your podcasts. It's on your radio right now. Do you know how to pop that coochie for a girl? There you go. It's the world's most dangerous morning show.
Got the cameras, I'm out of here.
I gotta agree.
What kind of show is this?
Let's not listen to this show.
The Breakfast Club.
With DJ Envy.
The captain of this bitch.
With Angela Yee.
The only one who can keep these guys in check.
With Charlamagne Tha God.
I'm a lovable asshole.
And this is The Breakfast Club, bitches.
Good morning, USA! It's Tuesday! Yes, it's Tuesday.
That's right.
Sleuth everybody out there who got six to eight hours of sleep last night.
Okay?
Dropping the clues bombs for you.
You deserve it.
All right?
I function better when I get sleep.
Yeah.
That's the plan.
I know, but I'm talking about a certain amount of sleep.
Like, I'm too old to be just getting four or five hours of sleep.
Those days are long gone.
Long gone.
It's hard to do when you wake up at 4 a.m., though.
Why?
I will say it's hard. Because then you have to go to bed at like 9 o'clock. What's wrong with that? It's hard to do when you wake up at 4 a.m., though. Why? I will say it's hard.
Because then you have to go to bed at like 9 o'clock.
What's wrong with that?
It's hard.
It ain't hard for me either.
It ain't hard for me.
Once the kid's in bed, kid's be in bed by 8, 8, 30.
You know, 13-year-olds, she doing her own thing because it's summertime.
We out.
Yeah, kids go to sleep and put them to sleep about 8, 8. Matter of fact, I don't even got to put them to sleep anymore.
They know what it is.
They come.
They go to sleep, kiss me goodnight, and then we all knock out.
Me and the wife got excited last night.
Like, yo, we look like we about to be in bed by 8.30, 9 o'clock.
Yes.
Whew.
Well.
Yeah.
That was it.
And then, you know, for me, there's no sports on.
I didn't watch the Olympics.
Do y'all watch the Olympics?
Nope.
I haven't seen anything at all.
I don't feel like I've been able to go to bed before like 11 o'clock.
Oh, you just up doing nothing then.
No, actually, we have a juice bar.
We have meetings.
Juice bars open at that time of night?
It closes at 9.
Oh.
And then they have to clean up afterward and do the count.
So they don't really close till like 1030.
Then I have new businesses.
Then I had to do a clubhouse yesterday that started at 8 o'clock.
And that's the reason why.
You guys aren't on clubhouse.
But it was with this Own Your Peace,
and it's an organization out of Houston that's all about promoting reproductive health for women.
Well, you might need to get a team that can run those things for you.
How are they supposed to do the Clubhouse for me?
Well, not the Clubhouse, but, you know, everything else.
We do have a team, but sometimes things happen.
We have to get a new manager, then you have to train new people.
It's just, I think when you have these brick and mortar businesses,
a lot of unexpected things happen all the time.
And so every day is something different, something new.
This broke, that broke.
This person left.
This person has problems with this person.
I know with all the things that we got going on,
sleep is very important because we still got to get up to do this.
And you can't half-ass this.
Thank goodness for coffee. No, I don't do coffee. I you can't half-ass this. Thank goodness for coffee.
No, I don't do coffee.
I'm a green tea type of guy.
Green tea is great.
Coffee has a lot of health benefits.
I just don't like coffee.
I don't like the way it tastes.
You don't like the way it feels in your mouth?
I don't like anything hot in my mouth.
So you don't drink tea either?
I don't drink tea.
You don't eat pizza? I can't even eat hot pizza.
When I buy pizza,
I gotta put it in the fridge
for like 30 seconds.
I can only eat my pizza really, really hot.
By this logic, you don't like anything.
You don't like your food warm.
You like cold food.
I like it warm.
I don't like it hot.
I don't like anything hot.
It is what it is.
I just don't like anything super hot.
I get it.
I understand.
I only like my food hot.
If my fries are cold, can't eat them.
No, I like them warm.
If they burn the top of my mouth, I get up.
You don't want to get burned. You don't want your tongue to they burn the top of my mouth. You don't want to get burned.
You don't want your tongue to have the strings on it.
Absolutely.
You don't want that.
Nope.
Nope.
Not at all.
All right.
Who we got today?
Who's here?
Let's get the show cracking.
Now, we have the head of Instagram joining us this morning.
Yes.
Adam Mossari.
Mossari.
Mossari.
Yes.
I just called him Adam.
Adam, yeah.
He runs Instagram.
So we have a lot of questions.
He's the head of Instagram, yes.
There's a lot going on with Instagram, with spam,
with bots,
with...
The algorithms.
The algorithms,
them taking your posts down.
I mean, just social media
not being a mentally healthy place.
How do you get verified?
People want that blue check.
Yeah, and if you have
some questions for him,
let us know, too.
I don't know why.
We did the interview yesterday.
Yeah, we sure did.
So why would you be asking
people to send you questions?
I don't know.
But I'm always...
Why do you and your personality
still like to lie to people? Yeah, I think we questions? I don't know. I'm always curious. Why do you and your personality still like to lie to people?
Yeah, I think we already posted the picture.
Exactly.
He already tweeted out.
I'm just always curious what people would ask somebody if we asked the same questions.
If we were in line.
We should have asked the day before.
We did.
You and I did on Twitter.
Oh.
If you have questions for him.
That was yesterday after the interview was over, though.
No, it wasn't.
That was before.
He actually thought it was going to be live yesterday.
Yeah, he thought it was going to be live yesterday. So we asked people if they had questions. Whatever. He the interview was over, though. No, it wasn't. That was before. He actually thought it was going to be live yesterday. Yeah, he thought it was going to be live
yesterday, so we asked people if they had questions.
He's a good guy, though. I met him a couple years
ago. And, you know, it's
so interesting. The things that we discussed
ended up happening anyway because of COVID.
Like what? Like just trying to figure out how to keep people more
engaged on Instagram and, like, with
original type of content, and then the
D-nices happened and the verses happened.
It just happened organically, but it should be a good
conversation. Alright, well let's get the show cracking.
Front page news, what are we talking about? Well, let's
talk about the Tokyo Olympics and
some shockers. Alright,
we'll get into that next. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning.
Morning,
everybody. It's DJ Envy
Angela Yee, Charlamagne Tha God. We are
the Breakfast Club. Let's get into some front page
news.
Where are we starting, Yee? Welllamagne Tha God, we are The Breakfast Club. Let's get in some front page news. Where we starting, Yee?
Well, let's start with the Kansas City Chiefs.
They are going to keep their name, but they are retiring their mascot.
This came after the Cleveland Indians in Major League Baseball announced Friday
they would become the Cleveland Guardians next year.
Now they will be joining NFL's Washington football team,
which was formerly the Washington Redskins,
and moving on in recent years from a name that evokes Native Americans.
But the Kansas City Chiefs don't plan a name change.
Now they do the Atlanta Braves.
But they are going to retire their horse mascot named Warpaint.
I wonder what would be a better way to keep Native American representation alive
since it's not on the teams.
What would you put in society that would keep keep them thriving I guess I
don't know maybe it was also like the the logo as well but listen if they had
an issue with it nothing wrong with saying okay we don't want to offend any
group of people yeah but I still want to keep you still want to keep them keep
them out there, right?
In a positive way, in positive representation. Maybe that's something they
have to tell us. Like, what would
be a positive thing? Alright, now Naomi
Osaka is out of the Tokyo
Olympics after a shocking third round
loss. And so
she's one of the most recognizable
global names in sports right now.
She was chosen for the last leg of the torch relay and one of the highlights of the opening ceremony representing Japan.
She was one of the host country's biggest medal hopes at the postponed Olympics.
And this was also her first tournament since she was drawing from the French Open to focus on mental health.
Now she did not take questions after her loss, but she did return to the press area to answer one.
She said that the hot human conditions were not a factor in her defeat.
So, unfortunately, she is out right now.
And she was playing for Japan, right?
Mm-hmm.
Yeah, you win some, you lose some.
Right.
Who's playing for the U.S.?
I think those games are today.
So, if you want to watch who's playing for the U.S.
Serena Venus.
That just means she don't know.
We don't know.
Yeah, I couldn't tell you the names.
I mean, you asked me to tell everybody's names.
You were like, if you want to know, watch it today.
I thought maybe Serena Venus was playing. I was just curious.
Oh, yeah. Listen.
I'll tell you when
women's tennis is today.
I know people love to watch that.
That is going to be from 7pm
to 4am on the Olympic Channel.
Men's and women's tennis if you want to watch that.
Now, Tokyo has also recorded record virus cases after the Olympics began.
They had their highest number of new coronavirus infections today, actually.
And so they have reported 2,848 new cases, exceeding the earlier record of 2,520 cases on January 7th. Now, the U.S. won't lift travel restrictions because of the spike in COVID Delta variant cases.
Cases are up among the unvaccinated, and that increase appears likely to continue in the weeks ahead.
So about 83% of new COVID cases in the U.S. this month are that Delta variant,
and experts say that variant is behind the new wave of nationwide infections. I wonder how many people
with the vaccine are catching it though.
It's a smaller percentage
and it keeps on changing
but people keep saying that but I
know mad people with the vaccine saying that they're getting it.
They may not be getting sick but they're still getting it so if you're still
getting it you're still passing it around if you're out and about.
Right and the point is that if you
are vaccinated you won't get as sick and hopefully
you won't have to get hospitalized.
And even more tragic. So they say, yeah, they keep saying that, too, but people dying and people getting sick.
But I know in a lot of cases, they said, like over 90 percent of people who are hospitalized aren't vaccinated.
Right. So, you know, we'll just have to keep watching this and see, but the U.S. currently does bar entry for most non-citizens who within the last
14 days have been in the U.K.,
Ireland, China, India,
South Africa, Iran, and Brazil.
Alright, so that is your
front page news. Alright, get it off
your chest. 800-585-1051.
If you need to vent, call us up
right now. Phone lines are wide open.
It's The Breakfast Club. Good morning.
The Breakfast Club. Wake morning. The Breakfast Club.
Wake up, wake up.
Wake your ass up.
This is your time to get it off your chest.
Whether you're mad or blessed, we want to hear from you on The Breakfast Club.
Hello, who's this?
Hey, what's going on?
It's you.
Hey, what's up, brother?
Get it off your chest.
Hey, I had a situation the other day.
I ran out of gas.
I was in the road for a long time, a minute.
And I didn't say a white guy to come out of the way to help me out, but he did.
Pushing out the road, saying, hey, I got a gas tank outside.
I'm good.
I can walk home.
Saying, no, I got you.
I'll help you out.
Drown me to the gas station.
You told me that.
I was coming back.
I was out of my way.
That's dope, man.
Well, I mean, all white people aren't bad, sir.
I mean, you know what I mean?
I'm not saying that.
It's a little conflicting to me.
And I mean, this is a town where a whole bunch of black people and no one else.
Well, all white people aren't bad.
All black people aren't, you know, your people.
All white people aren't your enemy.
All black people aren't your friends.
That's just the truth of the matter.
I got you.
All right, peace, man.
I'll talk to y'all later.
Well, shout out to him, man.
That shouldn't be like a revelation, though.
What's the future, man?
That shows you how messed up America is, that that's a revelation.
That, you know, a white person can, you know, do something to assist a black person.
Exactly.
And you're like, damn, I didn't expect this.
Yeah, no, that's all an experience is what you expect.
Hello, who's this?
Hey, what's going on, man? This is Ivan from MIA 305. What's happening you expect. Hello, who's this? Hey, what's going on, man?
This is Ivan from MIA305.
What's happening, everybody?
Ivan, what's up?
Get it off your chest.
Hey, man.
Hey, Solomon, what's up?
Hey, D.D.
Peace, King.
Morning.
What's happening, man?
I appreciate y'all.
This is D.R.
Every single day.
Solomon, I've actually gotten a chance to meet you a couple times at Barnes & Noble, Kendall,
at Miami Dade College.
I was the only guy that bought your book
and you actually sent your assistant
that she signed it, man.
So thank you so much for that.
Absolutely.
I appreciate you, brother.
Hey, no problem.
Hey, man, I just want to say that
I've been doing it for the last few years
with my good friend, Mama.
She's actually, you you know our relationship didn't
work out and she's trying to keep me away from my child so she took like we were living in miami
and our relationship didn't work out and then she took the child to california and i couldn't um
immediately get him back if i had enough money to get lawyers involved. So once I was able to get money to get lawyers involved, it's taken me up to this point.
I just landed a full-on day on K-9 from California from seeing my child.
So thank God I got a trial date on August 31st to hopefully see if I can get custody of my child and have him for good.
Well, congratulations, brother.
If it's meant for you to have custody of your child, I wish that for you, sir.
Hey, man, so I'm just saying, hey, Charlemagne,
tell everybody that you know, man, send me all the prayer warriors, guys.
Give me all that positive healing.
Definitely will.
I need that.
We sending you positive energy,
love, and light, King.
Get it off your chest.
800-585-1051.
If you need to vent,
hit us up now.
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Good morning.
The Breakfast Club.
Hey, guys.
I'm Kate Max.
You might know me
from my popular
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The Running Interview Show,
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You know that rush of endorphins you feel after a great workout? Well, that's when the real magic
happens. So if you love hearing real, inspiring stories from the people you know, follow,
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It's lighthearted, pretty crazy, and very fun.
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Is your country falling apart?
Feeling tired, depressed, a little bit revolutionary?
Consider this. Start your own country.
I planted the flag. I just kind of looked out of like, this is mine. I own this.
It's surprisingly easy.
There are 55 gallons of water for 500 pounds of concrete.
Everybody's doing it.
I am King Ernest Emmanuel.
I am the Queen of Ladonia.
I'm Jackson I, King of Capraburg.
I am the Supreme Leader of the Grand Republic of Mentonia.
Be part of a great colonial tradition.
Why can't I trade my own country?
My forefathers did that themselves.
What could go wrong?
No country willingly gives up their territory.
I was making a rocket with a black powder,
you know, with explosive warheads.
Oh my God.
What is that?
Bullets.
Bullets.
We need help! We need help!
We still have the off-road portion to go.
Listen to Escape from Zakistan.
And we're losing daylight fast.
That's Escape from Z-A-Q-istan on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. As a kid, I really do remember having these dreams and visions, but you just don't know what is going to come for you.
Alicia Keys opens up about conquering doubt, learning to trust herself and leaning into her
dreams. I think a lot of times we are built to doubt the possibilities for ourselves,
for self-preservation and protection. it was literally that step by step.
And so I discovered that that is how we get where we're going.
This increment of small, determined moments.
Alicia shares her wisdom on growth, gratitude, and the power of love.
I forgive myself.
It's okay.
Like grace.
Have grace with yourself.
You're trying your best.
And you're going to figure out the rhythm of this thing.
Alicia Keys, like you've never heard her before.
Listen to On Purpose with Jay Shetty on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Hello, who's this? What up, whether you're mad or blessed. You better have the same energy. We want to hear from you on The Breakfast Club.
Hello, who's this?
What up, dawg? It's Jay.
What up, dawg?
Give it off your chest, bro.
Morning.
Charlotte, DJ E.
Hey, man, I just wanted to vent a little bit.
I've been moving all weekend.
It's been irritating, stressful. We find out some of the small stuff in the new house that you didn't know about.
Always happens.
I got a living room with a handful of outlets.
Don't even worry.
Piss me off.
I want to stress how important it is for you to have an official electrician,
official plumber whenever you have those type of issues.
Take care of things.
I'll go around the corner.
Yeah, you cannot do that.
But it could be a small problem because, you know,
the power's been going out a lot all over the country.
So if the power went out, it could have just tripped the switch
and it might just have to be just click it over.
So you can definitely check that.
Yeah, I'm hoping so.
I'm just trying to keep my frustrations down.
My blood's boiling all week.
I'm on my way to work now.
What you stressed out for, King?
Just take a few deep breaths, man.
Some things just out of your control, you know?
But I'm sure other parts of the house are amazing.
But I will say
for most people,
once you get a new house,
there's always little things.
Always something.
Yeah, that you gotta deal with.
That's why you gotta have
some money to decide
just for that.
Take too much of my money.
That's what it is.
Look at the bigger picture, bro,
to make you smile.
You got a house.
You know what I'm saying?
Exactly.
You got a house.
Some people can't even
afford a house.
They don't even have the money.
They would love to have
those problems you have right now.
You right, you right.
I'm counting my blood.
There you go.
Have a good one, brother.
Go christen those rooms.
Hello, who's this?
Hey!
Hey!
Hey!
What?
Breakfast Club!
Good morning.
What's your name?
Veronica.
He's Veronica.
How are you?
Veronica.
Veronica.
I was going to actually tell you why I was mad.
That's the point of this segment.
But I got something way more serious to talk about.
Okay.
These crooked, dirty cops.
What happened?
Okay.
I am.
We're going to have to speed this up veronica female that lives in a
predominantly you know black and spanish neighborhood okay so i stick out like a
sore thumb and they like to you know mess with me who likes to message you the police all the time
okay women living in the black area are they Are they checking to make sure you're safe?
That's what that is?
Yeah, right.
I've been up top.
No.
I just got home.
I'm free.
How long you did?
Wow.
Five years.
What are you getting a bid for?
For being a dummy.
What you do?
In love with some dude being a drug mule.
Probably got a conspiracy charge.
No, no, no.
I'm like an independent
woman over here. I do my thing.
So what you do?
I may have
been in
a
car ring.
Oh, you were stealing cars.
Where you from?
Strong Island.
Let's stay focused, Veronica. What was the point of this call again? All right. Uh-oh. Strong Island. Long Island.
Okay.
Let's stay focused, Veronica.
What was the point of this call again?
I am 34 years old.
Never once got a D-Way.
What's a D-Way?
Two DWIs.
Oh, okay, okay.
I had a problem with a cop, and ever since then, they've been messing with me because
I actually, you know, I said, you know what?
I'm going to stand up.
I'm not going to be silent about it.
And I'm going to tell.
And that didn't work out too good for me.
So you stood up for yourself.
You stood up for yourself against the police and they've been harassing you ever since.
Yes.
And now.
You got that out in 20 seconds.
They got me on two deweys, straight lying, saying that I told them that I took shots.
I'm not going to lie.
You sound a little drunk right now, Veronica.
I might tend to lean towards the cops on this one.
Yeah, me too.
What kind of cars you stole?
That's the bug.
That's the bug.
But listen.
Oh, you high?
You high.
Don't get it twisted, guys.
Yeah, but you high in driving.
What kind of cars you stole, mama. What kind of cars you stole, mama?
What kind of cars you stole?
You didn't steal any cars.
It's all allegedly.
Listen, are you high in driving right now, Veronica?
No, no, no.
I don't do that.
I don't do that.
I really don't.
All right.
What do you have now?
I basically was used for my cousin's chop shop, basically.
Oh, you would steal cars and bring it to your cousin's chop shop?
Yeah, a bunch of people would, yeah.
Don't tell too much right now.
Just tell it on your cousin.
You better stop talking.
Yeah, don't tell too much.
Let's relax.
I already spent my time for that.
But maybe not your cousin.
How can we help you this morning, Veronica?
Did you steal any blue trucks?
In 20 seconds or less.
I want to know.
I want to know.
One.
20 seconds or less. I have a legal aid right now, and I'm thinking to myself, you know, maybe it just might be worth it.
To get a lawyer?
In your experience with friends and family or anybody that you know, when you have a paid lawyer, they treat you differently, no?
Yes, duh.
You have a great morning, Veronica. I don't have no problem with legal aid, but, you know, yes, no? Yes, duh. You have a great morning, Veronica.
I don't have no problem with legal aid, but you know, yes,
paid lawyers definitely move differently.
Okay, well, let me just put it out
there, Nassau County
and Suffolk County, they're
crooked as hell. Yes, ma'am.
Have a great day, Veronica.
They're going to harass you even more now.
You have a good one, all right?
We love you! Love you, too.
Who's we?
Who's we?
I don't know.
Her and the Crooked Cops.
Say we love you.
We love you.
Oh, we love you, too.
Oh, the baby.
Oh, my gosh.
All right, Veronica.
All right.
Thank you.
Oh, my gosh.
Somebody call child services.
Yeah, call child services.
Just to do a little welfare check.
Goodness gracious.
All right.
Get it off your chest.
800-585-1051.
We got rumors on the way?
Yes.
Who secretly got married?
Now that's what I'm talking about.
Keeping it on the low.
All right.
We'll get into that next.
It's The Breakfast Club.
Good morning.
The Breakfast Club.
Is your country falling apart?
Feeling tired? Depressed?
A little bit revolutionary?
Consider this. Start your own country.
I planted the flag. I just kind of looked out
of like, this is mine. I own this.
It's surprisingly easy.
55 gallons of water for 500 pounds of concrete.
Everybody's doing it.
I am King Ernest Emmanuel.
I am the Queen of Laudonia. I'm Jackson I,
King of Capraburg. I am the Supreme of Ladonia. I'm Jackson I, King of Kaperburg.
I am the Supreme Leader of the Grand Republic of Mentonia.
Be part of a great colonial tradition.
The Waikana tribe own country. My forefathers did that themselves.
What could go wrong?
No country willingly gives up their territory.
I was making a rocket with a black powder, you know, with explosive warhead.
Oh my God.
What is that?
Bullets. Bullets.
We need help!
We still have the off-road portion to go.
Listen to Escape from Zakistan.
And we're losing daylight fast.
That's Escape from Z-A-Q-istan on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Hey, guys.
I'm Kate Max. or wherever you get your podcasts. is all about. It's a chance to sit down with my guests and dive even deeper into their stories,
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All right, well, congratulations to Issa Rae.
She got married in the south of France.
And this happened on Sunday, July 25th.
She did share some photos.
Now, in the photo, she's wearing a custom Vera Wayne gown.
And her new husband wore a red Dolce & Gabbana suit.
His name is, I guess it's Louis Diame.
You know, she was very secretive about all of this going down.
So the fact that she was able to secretly go and get married and then be able to post these pictures, I think that's amazing.
So congratulations to her.
Congrats. Issa the realest
person in it. Nobody moves better than Issa.
She minds her business, does her business. We don't know
about her business until she wants us to.
She's the illest. That's why I say I don't even call it
moving in secret. It's just none of our business.
It's just not.
Yeah, so he's been on the red carpet with her
several times throughout the years
and they've largely kept
their relationship out of the spotlight.
She was wearing a diamond ring on the cover of Essence back in April of 2019.
So that's how people kind of knew that she was engaged.
But she just never really talked about it.
And sometimes that's the best way to keep it.
And people have tried to ask her about those type of situations.
I've heard her say, who I'm effing is none of y'all business.
And she's right.
All right.
Now, what was funny, though, is that, you know, Insecure is coming back in.
They posted a picture of Jay Ellis, who plays her boyfriend on the show, looking at her.
And somebody was like, who's going to tell him?
I guess you know that she's married now in real life.
All right.
Kanye's upcoming album, Donda.
He's been spending a million dollars per day to live in the Mercedes-Benz Stadium to finish that album.
I want to see how he's living because there's no beds in there.
So they had to bring beds.
He's in a locker room.
Is this like dorm room?
There's no beds in the locker room, right?
I'm sure they could bring all of that stuff in, no problem.
Right?
A million a day?
A million a day to catch a vibe.
That's a lot.
I mean, maybe not to him.
Is it like a big sleepover?
Like, who's staying with him?
Who's there?
Well, I'm sure he has his engineers, whoever works with him, you know, on the album, whatever
he has going on.
But his listening party did break Apple Music streaming records.
According to TMZ, there was 3.3 million people watching.
And that surpassed the 1.8 million people who tuned in in to the versus battle with Jeezy and Gucci last year.
I don't believe that story, by the way.
I just want to throw that out there.
It sounds good that he's paying a million dollars a day.
Well, I'm sure to keep that open, you have to pay a lot of money.
I just don't believe it.
I'm sure it's a union stadium, so you have to pay union workers to be there because it's not like you're going to leave him there by himself.
I don't even believe he's dead.
I think he's dead, but I don't think he's paying a million dollars.
I don't think he's dead. There were pictures of by himself. I think he's dead, but I don't think he's spending a million dollars. I don't think he's dead.
There were pictures of him there.
I think it's a good story.
I think there's nobody out here that knows how to stir up waters to catch fish better than Kanye West.
And I think it's a great story to keep people talking until the album actually drops.
Well, let's continue to talk about big money that people are spending.
Now, there was a $157 million apartment that's sold in Manhattan. And it has been revealed
that Joseph Tsai,
Joe Tsai,
who is the Brooklyn Nets owner,
is the person
who actually bought that,
that condo in New York City.
Tell me about the condo
for $157 million.
Tell me about it.
Well, it's two separate transactions.
So it was two different floors.
So one floor on the 60th floor,
he purchased that
for $82.5 million
and then he bought
the floor above it
for $75 million.
And so, yes, and it's the most expensive building in Manhattan.
And so, you know, that's already expensive.
So, yeah.
All right.
Now, in more big money deals, Chrissy Teigen and John Legend have sold their Beverly Hills mansion for $16.8 million.
They actually traded up
to a bigger space for their growing family.
So imagine that. They had listed it
actually last year for $24 million
and ended up selling it for $16.8 million.
Is this real money or Bitcoin?
Boy, there's a lot of money being thrown around out here
in these streets.
Does money even matter anymore?
Jesus Christ. What's the value of the dollar now?
This can't be real money these people are using.
The way people are spending money on all types of things.
Not people.
It's because the gap between the have and the have nots is very, very wide.
You either got it or you don't.
It's people too.
I've been going out to the club.
I'm telling you, the way people are spending money on bottles, valet, $200, $300.
That's still a lot of money, bro.
Those people are fronting.
They got their PVP and their unemployment and they ball lot of money bro those people fronting they got their PVP
and their unemployment
and they balling out
those people fronting
but the gap between
the haves and the have nots
is very very wide
but the people who have
lord have mercy
I need to see
is it real money
I'm sure it is
lord have mercy
I mean Josiah owns Alibaba
the owner of the Brooklyn Nets
I don't even know
what that is
you don't know Alibaba
it's not like a Disney character
who's Alibaba
nah it's a website
where you can get all types of cool things for cheap okay like a lot of people buy clothes and then resell them I'm not saying he don't even know what that is. He's worth over. You don't know Alibaba? It's not like a Disney character. Who's Alibaba? No, it's a website where you can get all types of cool things for cheap.
Okay.
Like a lot of people buy clothes and then resell them.
I'm not saying he don't got it.
I'm just saying that I want to know what the value of the dollar is now.
Because, boy.
I did buy something off Alibaba.
One sleeve was long and the other sleeve was short, though.
I ain't going to front.
I remember when they were selling those.
Going to Doctro.
What was it?
Those hoverboards or whatever?
Hoverboards, yeah.
You could only get them on Alibaba at one time.
All right.
Now, Universal, in the meantime,
has reportedly spent $400 million
on an Exorcist trilogy
that will star Leslie Odom Jr. and Ellen Burstyn.
$400 million.
That's a lot of money.
First of all, the Exorcist, by the way,
I just want to say,
because you all know I love a horror movie,
is based on a real story.
I actually read the book, too, and the book was way more explicit
even than watching that movie.
But that movie came out back in 1973,
and she's going to reprise her role as Chris McNeil,
and Odom is going to play a father who tracks down McNeil
after his child becomes possessed.
So it's going to be a trilogy for The Exorcist.
Have y'all seen The Exorcist?
No.
I don't pay people to scare me.
That's a classic movie.
Actually, when you look at it now,
it's not that scary.
Because think about it,
it was in 1973.
Yeah, none of that stuff
is that scary
because of real life.
It is real life.
It's a true story.
It's based on a true story.
Right.
But I'm talking about real life.
The things that we actually
experience every day
is way scarier
than The Exorcist.
Now, Vince McMahon
has a scripted series
in the works
with Blumhouse TV and WWE,
The United States of America vs. Vince McMahon.
It's the first scripted portrayal of the chairman and CEO of WWE.
I think that'll be pretty interesting to watch.
And Sports Illustrated and Sports Illustrated Studios has done a deal with iHeartMedia.
They are going to be doing original podcasts.
It's going to be eight new audio series, and we'll also see Sports Illustrated existing podcasts run through the iHeartMedia. They are going to be doing original podcasts. It's going to be eight new audio series and we'll also see
Sports Illustrated existing podcasts run through
the iHeart Podcast Network. Okay!
And Whoopi Goldberg is going to be
starring in and producing a film
about Emmett Till's mother.
So the movie is called Till and it will
depict the decision of Emmett Till's mother to have
an open casket funeral in order
to show the graphic tragedy of her
son's murder.
Alright. Emmett Till's born day was
this past weekend. He'd have been 80 years
old. Just to think he could possibly still be alive.
Still be alive, yeah. All right.
Well, that is your rumor
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Well, let's get in some front page news.
Where we starting at?
I'm watching the U.S. women's gymnastics team right now live.
So if you guys are able to watch that, that's happening right now on the Olympics.
And also in California and in New York City, they have announced that all government employees have to get the vaccine.
If you don't, you just face weekly COVID-19 testing.
Those are the first
major federal agencies to require
healthcare workers to receive the shot or
you get that weekly testing. That's fair.
Yeah, I think that is fair. I think that's more than fair.
I thought you should get more than weekly testing.
Maybe
every three days.
But doesn't it
if you're in contact with somebody,
doesn't it take a while
to show up?
So that's probably
why they do weekly.
Yeah, but I don't know.
Because even like up here,
at first when people
were coming back to work,
you had to get tested
every day.
We did?
No, every day.
When that happened.
You wasn't up here.
She wasn't up here.
Exactly.
What are you talking about?
I said every day.
Boy, you can lie so good
and so effortlessly and just pop the gum in her mouth like it was nothing.
I thought she was getting tested every day.
No.
You weren't even here.
Oh.
Well, I know when we were with Dave Chappelle, we had to get tested twice a day.
They were not playing those games.
All right.
Now, the last remaining person in the Surfside Collapse in Miami has been found.
Estelle Hedaya was the remaining victim who had not yet
been identified. Her family was in limbo. They did find her yesterday. They said it was obviously
tough to hear directly, but I can definitely see and feel the sense of relief my parents got,
knowing my sister can rest in peace. That's what Aiki Hedaya said, Estelle's brother. This month has been excruciating, to say the least.
As you know, a section of that building crumbled on June 24th.
A lot of the residents were sleeping at that time.
A total of 242 people are accounted for now.
Damn.
I must have checked out because I didn't even realize they had started collecting the bodies.
Found all the bodies.
I didn't think so either.
Right now, the Justice Department has stepped into a legal dispute.
It's ridiculous that we even have to deal with this,
but two Texas male students
say that their school district discriminated
against them. They were not allowed to attend classes
because they would not cut the length of their hair.
Their hair is in locks.
And so the parents of DeAndre Arnold
and Caden Bradford filed a civil lawsuit
in the U.S. District Court for the
Southern District of Texas last year against Barbers Hill Independent School,
claiming their children were discriminated against because they're boys and the school district's hair length rule only targets male students.
They wore their natural hair in locks as an outward expression of their black identity and culture.
They grew them longer than allowed under district rules.
You're only allowed to have your hair not be below the eyebrows or below the airlobes when let down, according to the statement.
And both of the parents did file dress code exemption requests to the school district.
They declined their request, according to this lawsuit.
I mean, I think that's ridiculous that you can't wear your hair the way that you want it.
And they're right.
If women are allowed to wear their hair a certain way, then why should you tell a guy that his hair can't be a certain length? I agree. All right. So,
you know, we shall see what happens. But the Department of Justice has stepped into this
dispute. And they want to make sure that all students can participate in an educational
environment free of unlawful discrimination and in the proper application of the Equal Protection Clause.
And Amazon has posted a crypto job that made Bitcoin surge 14%.
So what this means to people now is that Amazon is likely going to start accepting cryptocurrency as payment in the near future.
All right.
All right.
So should be exciting for everybody that's invested in cryptocurrency. And that is your Front Page News. All right. All right. So should be exciting for everybody that's invested in cryptocurrency.
And that is your Front Page News.
All right.
Now, when we come back, the head of Instagram.
The head of Instagram.
Adam Masselli.
The CEO.
That's right.
The guy who runs things.
That's right.
We're going to talk to him about Instagram and everything around Instagram.
And how to make Instagram a more mentally healthy environment.
Well, I mean, amongst other things.
All right.
So we'll talk to him when we come back.
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Morning, everybody.
It's DJ Envy, Angela Yee, Charlamagne Tha Guy.
We are The Breakfast Club.
We got a special guest in the building.
That's right.
He's the head of Instagram.
Hi.
Adam, how do I say your last name?
I don't want to mess it up.
Mosseri.
Mosseri? Mosseri. Mosseri. Adam, what's up, guy welcome thanks for having me tell people what that means the head of Instagram CEO of Instagram what does
that mean it means that if something goes wrong on Instagram it's on me and
if something goes right it's probably on my team but generally I spend as much as
my time as I can helping us think about where we're going,
what we need to do better, what we need to double down on because it's going well,
and building the team to help us get it done. Well, let's get to the nitty gritty because I
saw a lot of people on social media when you said you were coming here. They have questions.
Please bring them. Let's discuss the election first, right? Because as you know,
there's a lot of fake news that was going around and there were a lot of issues with Facebook, with fake news. You know, how do you guys take
responsibility for your platforms with COVID, with fake news and things like that happening,
making sure that that information doesn't get spread out? Social media as a technology isn't
good and it isn't bad. It just is. And social media specifically is a great amplifier
in a lot of ways.
And it can amplify good and it can amplify bad.
And so it's our responsibility to do all we can
to amplify the good and mitigate the bad.
And you see both spread on the platform.
You saw the Black Lives Matter movement
spread on social media.
You saw Me Too spread on social media.
But you also see things like misinformation
spread on social media. And so we Too spread on social media. But you also see things like misinformation spread on social media.
And so we try to figure out
all the different things that we can do
to identify problems and address them.
And then also rethink the core of what we do
and how we do it to create better outcomes.
And that work never ends.
And so, I mean, you brought up
a couple different things there.
But on misinformation specifically,
what we do is we work with third party fact checkers.
So people who do this for a living, who do this for publications, we give them access to what's shared on the platform and they can dispute things.
They can say this isn't true and here's a link to why.
And when that happens, we reduce the spread of that when we label things and we give people links to good information.
But we don't take it off the platform entirely unless there's a safety risk.
So for things like COVID-19 or vaccine-related misinformation, we just take it off the platform entirely.
So at this point, we spend billions of dollars a year, and there are tens of thousands of people between the engineers, the reviewers, and everything else focused on safety.
How liable should social media platforms be in regards to lawsuits?
Like if I want to sue somebody for slander or defamation,
should I be able to name the social media platform?
Since y'all gave them a platform?
Yeah, so this is actually one of the big legal debates right now.
Here in the U.S., they talk a lot about Section 230,
which gives technology platforms essentially no liability, but the
people who post that content are liable. In different countries around the world,
that may not be the case. Actually, it isn't the case.
Yeah, South Africa, they don't play.
Yeah, no, a lot of Europe, they don't play. And so the thing that I think is that it's important
that companies are held to account to take measures to keep people safe but I don't think we
can go all the way to have a social media platform be accountable for every
single thing that is said on that platform by every person because there
are over a billion people on Instagram at this point and there's no there's no
version of that where there aren't going to be people with problematic opinions
racists that are going to show up they're not gonna check that at the door
when they open up Instagram but I do think that doesn't mean that we can just, you know,
wipe our hands clear. The question is, where are we on that spectrum? What do you say to people
that say that, you know, social media, Instagram per se, is really affecting people's mental,
where people are, you know, thinking of committing suicide and, you know, having problems in school
and self-esteem and all of those things due to
that platform. So there's a range here, and I think they're all really important questions.
There are problems that are really acute, right? So if you are struggling with self-injury or
suicide, that is, I mean, that's high stakes. That's really problematic. And we've done a lot
of work in that area to try and be thoughtful about what we share by getting people access to good information or
to help so for instance right now if we think you are a risk to yourself we will do a direct
you to resources or even in some extreme cases resources to you how do you report that right
and the reason i'm stopping you there let's say you have a family member that goes in and it's
off doing some wild stuff a lot of times them themselves don't know that they're doing wild
stuff but a family member might how does that family member report that to instagram and say hey
my sister's doing this or my aunt is doing this or my brother is doing this how does that work so in
every post be a photo video or anything else on instagram you can always report something there's
a little dot dot dot do you really check it Because sometimes I feel like it doesn't get checked.
Because there's so many people that make fake Envy pages.
I feel like every day I'm like, fake Envy page, fake Envy page.
We've got room to improve.
We definitely check it.
But the challenge is, the truth is, the reports are actually mostly not of things that are problematic.
There's a ton of people who are like, I don't like the way I look in this photo and I'm going to report it.
Oh, my God.
Bullying.
Yeah, it's actually the vast majority.
Oh my God.
I can imagine that.
Which is why we can't rely only on the reports.
We definitely check the reports.
We prioritize them, right?
So if someone's reporting someone's a risk to themselves, we're going to look at that
much faster than if someone's reporting something as being nudity, for instance.
But we have to also build technology ourselves
to go out and try and identify things.
Because if someone's going to be a risk to themselves,
let's say you're going live and you're talking about hurting yourself,
we don't want to wait for someone to hopefully report that.
By the way, we don't have a religious opinion on the female nipple.
The reason why we don't allow nudity on Instagram
is because it is actually a safety issue.
Because we can't verify age and we can't
verify consent. I think social media sometimes protects bigots though. It protects bigots like
in regards to racism, homophobia, because I've posted videos of like racists getting punched
in the face, right? For blatantly being racist and then Instagram will remove it. We definitely
make mistakes. We also take a lot of flack for letting people say a lot of crap that we don't
necessarily agree with. In general, we're going to try flack for letting people say a lot of crap that we don't necessarily agree with.
In general, we're going to try and bias towards letting people say what they want on the platform.
And we try to only take content down when there's a safety risk.
Should the FCC regulate social media like they do radio and TV?
They can and they should.
I think regulation is important. I think that social media is too big to not have governments have an opinion about
What shouldn't should not be okay now the type of regulation though is particularly important some regulation could be really helpful particularly
Clarifying what is and what is not you know certain problematic content types so for instance we have a hate speech policy
Hate speech protects people based on nine different types of traits.
So, you know, race, gender, religion, the things you would expect.
That's our definition.
But you have to be careful because if you get too aggressive with regulation or you write regulation in certain ways, you might incentivize social platforms to censor more.
If you're going to fine them a big amount every time they make a mistake and that's something up, they're going to take down more because it's in their financial interest to do so.
Now, another question I have, you were talking about wanting to make sure,
I saw you said that you wanted to make sure that creatives
actually start making more money on Instagram.
And I know they have like the tips that you can do on YouTube and things like that.
So what are some ways that you guys, I see the Instagram ads you can also sign up for,
which I'm not 100% sure what that is.
So if you want to explain how people can make money on Instagram. there's a range of ways we can help creators make a living largely they fall into
three categories the first is essentially commerce so you can do branded content right so you get
paid by a brand off of instagram or off of facebook and you do a deal and you post on
instagram to promote whatever that is.
But then we also need to do things that allow people
to pay the creators that they love directly, right?
So we're interested in things like tipping.
So we've got badges, for instance, when you go live.
Right now exploring if we can support subscriptions.
Maybe you could have a group of people
who pay you five bucks a month
and you get them exclusive content that only they get.
And you can do that right through Instagram.
It's almost like an OnlyFans type of thing where you can have a subscription, but now the stuff that they subscribe to, can you put whatever you want up there now?
Because you know who your subscribers are, right? You know their age.
It's almost like you can take that and now you can show a nipple.
But you still have the same restrictions.
But you know because you know who your subscribers are though, right?
Yes and no. So if there's a safety issue, we're still going to have to take it down.
But, I mean, for instance, we do do
age gating for certain types of content.
So things like tobacco, that kind
of thing. So we could
explore that. We haven't actually talked about that,
but I'll take that.
We have more with the head of Instagram, Adam Mosseri.
When we come back, so don't move, it's The Breakfast Club. Good morning.
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We're still kicking it with Adam Mosseri, the head of Instagram.
Is it a trick to it, though?
You know, a lot of people are like, hey, is it a trick when I post my videos?
Because sometimes I post a video or a picture and I get this amount of likes.
And then sometimes it's on this page and I get this amount of likes.
Yeah.
You know, is it a trick to maybe take that?
I'm like, I'm not giving up my tricks.
Messing up my engagement. I'm trying to figure it out, too. I've got maybe I'm like I'm not giving up my tricks
The unfortunate truth is there's no perfect answer and it's the million-dollar question Mm-hmm. There are a couple of things I'd say one is it's important to
First when you're using whether it's Instagram or any other social media platform to be intentional about what you're using, whether it's Instagram or any other social media platform, to be intentional about what you're using it for.
Are you using it to promote a cause that you believe in?
Are you using it as a business directly?
Are you using it to just build up awareness of your business
and you make your money elsewhere?
The other thing to be honest about is that every audience is different.
So what's going to work best for your followers isn't necessarily,
well, they're not going to work with what's best for my followers.
So you and I both have to experiment. We got to try things, see what works, see what doesn't.
But there are other things that are more broadly true. So I do think it's generally true to give
people a good sense of what you're about and what you do. So I try to build up these sort of patterns.
So I do a video every week where I talk about what's happening on Instagram. Video also, there seems to be a lot of interest across the entire world and always consuming more videos.
So some of those basics are more universal, but a lot of it is more nuanced unfortunately.
What is Instagram learnings from the black creators, Greg, on TikTok?
So the black strike on TikTok, black creators strike on TikTok, I think is mostly about credit, right?
Too often black creators will create amazing
things and not create credit for it. And someone else, often not black, will reap all the benefits.
But we're trying to understand not just that, but the broader set of issues. And the big set
of issues that we've heard from the black community here in the States over the last year and a half
are things around censorship, shadow banning, racism on the platform, having your content
taken down when you fight back against the bigot or racist.
And so we feel like the credit stuff that TikTok is dealing with is important.
And we're working on that.
But we really got to first do better on the basics,
because we don't really even have a right to play in the creator monetization space
unless we can get better on the issues around content takedowns account suspensions
Yeah
You know
It's Yeah, yeah, yeah. He's your guy right here. I can't wait to see him later on Instagram. Adam Mosserary?
Adam Mosserary?
It's Mosserary with seven S's.
Now, what about limiting screens? No, no, why does Moussi keep getting taken down, Adam?
We got to draw the line somewhere.
It's a nudity policy.
We try to be clear.
You can appeal.
But if you get too many strikes, you know, things happen.
Now, what's nudity?
Because I flagged Kim Kardashian 10,000 times.
Remember when Kim posted a picture of her nipple one time?
Okay, hater.
Why would you do that?
Because they don't take her down, but they take everybody else down, so I flagged it.
If she posts a picture of her nipple, it's getting taken down.
If it's a guy?
No.
This is one of my, man, nipples are allowed, so I should be clear.
Nipples are allowed.
One of my favorite
tricks that people who are sort of nudity advocates talk about one of my
favorite tricks that they do is they'll take a male nipple cut it out and paste
the male nipple on a female's breast and post that just to test our policies if
you figure it out that's allowed you know this is what it means
to like be a platform with as much reach as we have is you're gonna have people try to push you
and figure things out does instagram understand culture though right because you got people like
little duval little boozy whose page always get taken down and it could be for doing things like
using the n-word but they're using it in like the context of that's my n-word but it'll get taken
down for like racial slurs really like that yeah yeah so it's tough because no we don't understand culture
perfectly at all um just to be super clear you can't at our scale um and so there are things
where we just have to draw the line or define a rule that is practical for us to actually enforce
because the perfect rule is going to be nuanced but the perfect rule we cannot enforce
accurately and consistently
Tens of thousands hundreds of thousands millions of times a day or whatever it is
And so yeah, there are certain racial slurs that you cannot say on Instagram
Regardless of how you identify now
That's just because we don't think we would be able to get it right enough of the time
We would make too many mistakes
otherwise
And it's better for us to be transparent about the rule and then be able to act accordingly
and you can make your own decision what about limiting screen time because i know that was a
discussion that people have you know your phone will show you how long you've been on all of these
apps is that something at instagram that people are concerned about like are you concerned about
that people being addicted and constantly on their phone? I mean, for me, it's everything in moderation.
But I also want to be clear, there's a difference between addiction, which is a compulsion to do something that is unhealthy for you that you cannot stop, and just problematic use or overuse.
People are addicted to social media, though.
Some are, and some just use it too much.
And so what we try to do is decipher the difference.
So if you're in a really problematic state, how can we intervene?
How can we let you know how much time you're spending, et cetera?
But if you're just using it a lot, the things that we need to do might be different.
Replace what you said with cocaine.
Some people aren't addicted, but some people just use it too much.
I don't know if I can talk about that.
It's the same thing.
It's the same thing.
And if you're using it too much, you clearly have a draw to it that you can't control.
Right, but I think cocaine is a drug, and a drug has serious medical implications on your health.
I think social media will in the future.
I think psychologically, emotionally, mentally, we're not even scratching the surface of how social media is going to impact people in the future.
I think that's reasonable.
But I also think that every new technology is first met with a wave of optimism.
People are really excited about what it can do then a huge wave of concern and then ideally you
get to some sort of balance and by the way as you get through it the media itself or the technology
itself gets better i think social media is a technology that's just said earlier in that phase
so yeah i'm sure use of social media can affect your health like use because communicating communicating with anyone can affect your health, and social media is just a way to connect.
Let's talk about that, because I feel like social media is changing human behavior in real life.
It's making people's collective attention spans decrease.
It's making people insecure.
I think it's fueling narcissism.
So how do you make it a more mentally healthy environment?
I think that there's really three types of work
I personally think we have to do.
The first is to identify acute issues.
You know, if people who are at risk of self-injury
are becoming more at risk, how do we address that?
How do we make sure that they can still do
what a lot of people who are struggling with self-injury do
on social media, which is get support, get help.
It's important to talk about your experience. Maybe you're,'re you know you're 30 days clean and you want to celebrate
that how do we allow that content on instagram without content that celebrates um self-injury
so you know identify cute issues identify solutions that work never ends keep working there
then i think we need to identify areas where we can go further where we can be innovative where
we can define new ways of addressing the issues like one of the ones that we've been focused on for about
two years now is bullying. And so then what can we do there? And there we're trying to invent new
things, things like restrict, right? Restrict allows you to block someone without you knowing
about it. I love restrict. That's my favorite thing to do. It's my favorite feature. Because
they're still posting, but they don't know that no one can see it but them. Yeah. And so that was
from our work on bullying.
But then the third area is what are the core things about how Instagram works or social media works that we need to rethink?
That's why we experimented with and made it so that people could pick to have like counts be private, for instance.
Are there core things that we need to rethink because they are creating too much bad or too many problems and not enough good?
What about taking away likes?
I remember that was a flirtatious idea.
Yeah.
So the idea was to allow you to, well, originally it was to hide like counts.
You could still like things, but it would be less of a popularity contest.
So you could see it, but not everybody else.
Yes.
It turned out to be really polarizing.
It didn't seem to change much about how people felt about Instagram.
We tried to see if it changed people's well-being.
We tried to measure well-being, your question, by asking people,
sending, these are surveys. So essentially, we work with academics, professionals, experts outside of the company
who have defined all sorts of ways of measuring well-being.
So what they did is they designed a set of questions whose answers correlate. So if you say you have a support network, if you say you are not lonely,
these things correlate with real world well-being outcomes over the long run. And so then we try to
run surveys on Instagram and ask people those same questions. And we try to see for things like
hiding like counts, did that change how people answered those questions? It didn't. But some
people loved this and some people hated it right and so
what we did is we said all right well given that let's give people a choice you can decide you can
hide like counts and not have that be part of your instagram experience or you can have like counts
all right well don't move we have more with the head of instagram adam museri when we come back
it's the breakfast club good morning morning everybody it's dj envy angela yee charlamagne
the guy we are the breakfast club we're still kicking it with Adam Mosseri, the head of Instagram.
I'm tired of seeing if I like her booty or not.
I'm tired of Bitcoin because you should invest with this person.
Word is born.
Oh, the spam.
I didn't know what he was talking about at first.
Do you want something long and hard?
I don't get that one, but go ahead.
I get that so much.
He just spread that out.
And the spam.
It is ridiculous.
And it never stops.
Yeah.
So some of this happens just because we make mistakes.
And we think you're interested in things that you're not interested in.
And so right now, you can say, by the way.
So the main gets.
You like it long as.
It's all I get.
Why would you think I like it?
Are they ads?
Or are they just regular posts?
It's spam.
Like spam bots.
It's probably based off of your.
Oh, comments? Comments comments
You talking about spam in the comments, right?
I thought you were talking about like in your Explorer. No
You want a long and hard and an explorer? I was like, I'm not trying to address this. Stop ordering those penis pills, Charlamagne.
Keep ordering those penis enlargement pills.
I was like, this is some delicate answer to this question.
I was like, what are you following, man?
Okay, I feel way better now.
Thank you for making me feel good about it.
If I wasn't an explorer.
You know, to each their own.
If it's in your explorer, no judgments.
And the way he yelled at you.
No, it's in the comments.
I can post the picture right now and within seconds.
Yeah, so this is
the bots and the spam comments.
We are working on this. One of the things is we've made less progress on this issue as some other issues because we've prioritized things like safety issues.
But we've gotten better at bots.
But the thing is, the spammers and the bots, they've gotten more sophisticated.
So we do things.
We look like, okay, if you comment every second of the day, 24 hours a day, you're not a person.
You're a bot.
So we shut you down.
But they've gotten sophisticated.
They mask themselves with different phones. They do it on different intervals they pretend to sleep they do all of this stuff and so it's a it's a it's an arms race
so to speak as we get better at addressing issues they work around those issues and then we got to
get better at addressing those new issues we tried we tried we know we try what about getting
verified people always want to know how how can I get verified? Yes.
There's people that are like, I can pay.
If you pay me, I can get you verified. A hundred racks to Adam.
Scam.
Scam.
No, don't.
No, don't.
Don't.
Don't.
Don't.
Don't.
So you can apply in the app.
The point of verification, though, it's not supposed to be a status symbol.
It's supposed to be a way for people who are getting impersonated to be able to signal to the world what their real
account is. Now it's turned into a status symbol, I get that, but that was not ever
the intent. You can apply in the app. What we look for essentially is notability. We
try to evaluate it using third parties. So we basically look for press about you.
There's no minimum follower count. If you don't get approved in the vast majority of the cases it's because we couldn't find
enough press about you let's say I search cars and then all I'll get is
cars car car car car car car or if I search your phones all I get is phone
phone phone phone phone do you guys do that and can we take that off so I don't
have to see that all day long forgive search and I can be talking about
something we don't listen we don't listen to see that all day long. Sure, forgive search and I can be talking about something. We don't listen.
You're a liar. My wife thinks
I'm a liar in this too. It's a real constant fight
at the home.
On the search
or on ads more broadly.
This is ads where this will happen.
Explore is a little tippy too.
If I express a little bit too much interest in something, I get a lot
of that thing for a couple of hours. We're trying to get
to a better balance there. on ads uh you can't you can go to your ad
preferences and you can say i'm interested it will show you what we think you're interested in
and you can change them um and so that's over under settings under your profile under ad preferences
for listening we are not listening it would be a gross violation of policy it would also drain
your battery your phone would turn on like you'd be able to know it. But all the time we get accused of this.
I think what is happening is
one, sometimes the advertising is actually
working. Like you saw it a couple times
and then you thought about it
and then you noticed it
and then you talked about it. Lucky I don't have a Bible to make you
put your hand on. I will put my hand on it.
I don't believe it is.
100%. I don't know how to convince you.
I'm not going to convince you clearly.
Swear to Mark Zuckerberg
I swear
Swear to Mark Zuckerberg
That's a weird thing to do
But if you want me to do it
I'll do it
I think also is that
We don't just show you ads
Based on what we know about you
We show you ads
Based on you know
What your friends seem to like
We call that collaborative filtering
And ads are good
Like we're good at
Figuring out what you're interested in We don't always get it right. We make mistakes. I know a
lot of people don't like ads, but we think that ads fundamentally allow small businesses to play
on an equal playing field with big businesses. Has that ever happened to you? Have you been
talking about something? Then you look down at your Instagram, the ad for it pops up?
Not directly, no. But I've definitely had things been like, how the hell did we know I was
interested in that? Now, how many meetings did we know I was interested in that?
Now, how many meetings did y'all have to ban the president?
Was that a huge conversation?
It was an intense conversation,
but it was an intense set of circumstances.
We didn't have a policy for what happens
when a sitting president incites a riot
to try to prevent the peaceful transfer of power
to a new president.
It was sort of his new territory for all of us.
He was lying his whole presidency, though.
Y'all could have took him down early on.
Right, but we don't have a policy against lying.
We have a policy against lying when there are safety risks.
You can make that case here.
But we also want to make sure that politicians can get held accountable for their actions.
And so they've had historically in certain areas, different rules,
the same way public figures have different rules.
But that was an intense moment.
And we have this thing that we call the oversight board now,
because a lot of these decisions we think
shouldn't be made by us directly.
So we sort of built this board, it's independent.
And we made this decision.
And then we asked them for their opinion on it, basically.
They did what I would have done,
which they said is like, yeah, we would have banned them too.
But you have to have a policy.
You can't just like do something, you know, as a one-off.
I think that was fair.
And then we defined a policy now and he's suspended for two years.
Who owns the pictures that you post on?
Because there was a rumor that you own the pictures.
You own your pictures.
So we own the pictures.
So Instagram does not own the pictures.
Yeah.
Once every year or two, we get a false declaration that like, you don't own your stuff.
And if you repost this random chain letter, you own it and it goes viral.
But then we try to go on, correct it as quickly as possible and make sure people know what
the real rules are.
I wonder about the intention.
I wonder what the intention was when they first started a lot of these sites.
But also when you see Frankenstein becoming Frankenstein,
when do you know maybe it might be time
to take down Frankenstein?
Is Frankenstein the whole thing at this point?
It feels like it.
Like, when you watch movies like,
when you watch documentaries like
The Social Dilemma on Netflix,
what goes through your mind?
That specific one, though, I felt like
was a little bit dramatic.
Triplet programmers, like, in a Star Trek place,
deciding what to use,
depending on how things work.
But overall, I thought they were bringing up
important issues that should be talked about.
I thought that's a healthy thing.
Now, look, I'm biased.
I want to recognize that up front.
But I really believe that we do a lot of good in the world.
We help a lot of people express themselves.
We help them go straight to their fans
or to their friends.
They don't have to go through traditional media.
We help small businesses around the world.
We help marginalized communities around the world
in a lot of ways.
But there's bad that comes too.
Now, I think there's more good than bad.
So I don't think that it makes sense to, you know,
put a bullet in Frankenstein to use your metaphor.
Right.
It has leveled the playing field for people too.
In a huge way.
Like, I love to see how like a Lala Milan
or a DC Young Fly,
how some of these
creators have been able to really use social
media to get the platforms that
they have now. But then I hate QAnon.
Then I hate the fact that there was an attempted coup
of the government on January 6th. I really
feel like we're headed to some Orson Welles
war of the world type
because nobody cares about the truth
on social media when the lie is more entertaining.
I think confirmation bias is a thing,
and that's as old as time.
People want to hear what they agree with,
and they don't want to hear what they don't agree with.
Just give me the keys to the nuclear code.
My goodness.
Just tell me, just give me the keys,
and I can just go in and delete pages.
That's it.
I can do that.
I got time.
It's a lot of people.
It's a lot of people.
I got it.
Just give me the keys to the nuclear code.
But the concerns you have, like I said before,
we have those concerns about every major new technology, It's a lot of people. I got it. Just give me the keys to the nuclear code. But the concerns you have, like I said before,
we had those concerns about every major new technology,
particularly around the ones that change how people communicate.
One of the big concerns about writing when it first existed was that there was no one there to disagree with you.
But those people get held liable, though.
You can sue an author for slander and defamation.
That's why they take the change names in books and things of that nature.
But for certain issues, yeah.
But for other issues, no.
You could say something. You can make a case for something that is really problematic in and things of that nature. But for certain issues, yeah. But for other issues, no. You could say something.
You can make a case for something
that is really problematic in a bunch of different ways,
put it out there,
and it doesn't violate a law in any country.
You can sue for defamation on social media too, though, right?
If somebody says something about you
that's defamatory and not true.
Yeah, I think the question is, who's accountable?
Is it the person who said it?
Or the platform?
Or the platform.
And I think the platforms
need to be held accountable
for taking not just reasonable,
but like meaningful measures
to reduce these problems.
I don't think it's sustainable
for us to be accountable
for everything everybody says.
Because if we were,
we would have to
take down so much content
that you would have
a huge censorship issue.
We appreciate you for joining us.
So Lil Duval, I mean, Lil Boosie's page is down because of nudity.
Sorry.
And why Lil Duval?
I don't know off the top of my head.
I'll look it up, though.
Okay.
Well, it's Adam.
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All the gossip.
Gossip.
The Rumor Report.
Gossip.
Gossip.
With Angela Yee.
It's the Rumor Report. With Angela Yee. It's The Rumor Report.
The Breakfast Club.
Man, breaking news.
This just happened a few minutes ago.
I told you I was watching the Olympic gymnastics.
And champion Simone Biles is out of the team finals.
There was an issue after she landed her vault.
She exited the competition floor with her team doctor.
She then returned several minutes later.
Her right leg was wrapped.
She took off her bar grip.
She put on her jacket, sweatpants, hugged her teammates.
And they'll have to finish the rest of the competition without her.
Damn, that sucks.
So this just happened.
And I know we were all excited.
But, you know, this would be their third gold in a row.
Yeah, that's horrible.
It's the sports, though.
You know, it comes with the territory. And they can still win. Yeah, that's horrible. It's the sports, though. It comes with the territory.
And they can still win.
Yeah, injuries come with the territory.
All right, so hopefully she is okay.
Now let's talk about DaBaby and his comments that he made at Rolling Loud.
Now, the initial comments were during his performance, and he said this.
You didn't show up today with HIV, AIDS, any of them deadly,
sensual, transmissive diseases that'll make you die in two, three weeks.
Put a cell phone light in the air.
Lady, if your b**** smell like water, put a cell phone light in the air.
Fellas.
Lights up.
Fellas, if you ain't sucking b**** in the parking lot, put your cell phone lights up.
Okay.
Well, first of all, let's be clear.
If you have HIV, that does not mean that you're going to die in two or three weeks at all.
There's people that live full lives that have been tested and are HIV positive. And that does not mean that's
a death sentence in any way, shape or form. So we want to make sure that people know that. Now,
he did try to explain why he said this during his set at Rolling Loud and things got even worse.
What me and my fans do at the live show, it don't concern you on the internet. You know
what I'm saying? Like what I do at a live show is for the audience at the live show. It'll never
translate correctly to somebody looking at a little five, six second clip. Because regardless
of what you talking about how the internet and twisted up my word, me and all my fans at the
show, the gay ones and the straight ones, we turned the f*** up.
My boy had the crop top on, front row.
Yeah, he out there.
He's standing on the rail.
Got them cutting up.
He know the words.
I saw him.
I'm rapping them bitches with him.
Right.
He had also said something like, if you're not fellas, if you didn't suck in the parking lot, you know, to go ahead and put your phones up.
I don't even understand what that has to do with.
We heard it.
You didn't have to repeat it.
I think you repeated that because you wanted to.
Well, no, because some people might not have heard it because it's bleeped out.
It's a little muffled, so I wanted people to hear, you know, what it was that was said.
And so why people are saying that it's not, you know, what he said was problematic and that it was homophobic.
So in case you didn't know what was being said.
All right. Now, T.I. also weighed in and he defended the baby.
You can't make me homophobic because I'm proud to be a heterosexual.
You can't make nobody homophobic because just because I am proud of what I am, don't make me hate what you are.
For instance, the little non-asshole, the performances and video.
Man, I got a lot of respect for
bro because like I said, he had the courage to live his truth, but that's for me.
It just ain't for me.
I ain't got no better looking at it.
I just can't look at it.
It ain't for me.
And I don't want my children seeing it either because their minds haven't developed to the
place where they can wrap their minds around those type of experience and those types of
visual presentations.
But I feel the same way about the WAP video.
All right.
The problem is that, you know, Little Nas X and Little Nas X responded and just put LOL.
And a lot of people did also respond is that Little Nas X is not saying that it's not OK to be heterosexual or acting like there's a problem with it.
He's just celebrating who he is.
And it's OK to celebrate who you are without putting anybody else down.
Yeah, my question to my brothers tipping the baby is why?
Like I'm at the point in my life where I don't want my peace disturbed.
And one way to not have your peace disturbed is to not disturb someone else's peace.
Leave people alone.
Folks not bothering you, so why are you bothering them?
You wouldn't have to explain anything or anything you said if you just minded
your business there's too many real issues going on to stand up for and debate about and this ain't
it this just ain't it right i think the there is a big difference between celebrating your true
authentic self and let's be clear like people who are um gay have had a lot of issues and still
continue to have a lot of people who are, you know, have biases against
them are being attacked. And so I do feel like it is important for you to express yourself and show
other people who are watching and children who are coming up who perhaps haven't come to grips
with who they really are, that it is OK and to have these this representation. And how do people
find something to be mad about on social media every day with all the real things happening?
The black people around the world in this country. How do we find a way to argue amongst ourselves?
Every day like every day it's easy. Like where do y'all find the energy to participate? Like I mean every I mean every day
We just had the head of Instagram here people are on Instagram all day long
There's there's all types of ways that are things that piss people off to argue going back and forth. You know what? I take
that back. I don't take anything I just said back
but you know, it's hard to tell people to
mind their business when we live in an era
that encourages everyone to volunteer
their opinion about issues that don't
concern them. And hell, even rewards
them for it with this thing called attention.
Right, so
you know, I think it's important to continue to
have these conversations.
And for the baby, he could have just apologized for what he said and promised to do better.
What conversations, though? I need to know.
Like, it's very important to know what conversations should we continue to have.
Why this is wrong. Like, why you should not be saying things like this.
Factually, it's incorrect to say that if you have HIV AIDS, you're going to die in two or three weeks.
That is factually incorrect.
And so we just need to make sure that people understand this
and that there's nothing wrong with being who you are
and to celebrate yourself without putting other people down.
You can do that.
Yeah, I think people need to mind their business.
Leave people alone.
Folks not bothering you, so why are you bothering them?
That's my advice.
All right, well, that is your rumor report.
All right, Charlamagne, who are you giving your donkey to?
You know, four after the hour.
We need a couple of individuals.
This is an opportunity to teach.
Remember we was having this whole conversation about the haves and the have-nots and how wide the gap is?
Yep.
We'll talk about it four after the hour.
All right.
We'll get into that next.
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You get donkey at a date.
Yeah, you dumbass.
You get donkey at a date.
Yeah, you dumbass. You are a donkey.
It's time for Donkey of the Day.
Donkey of the Day, huh?
I'm going to fatten all that shit around your eyes.
They want this man to throw them blows, man.
They wait for Charlamagne to tap them gloves.
Let's go.
They have to make a judgment of who was going to be on the Donkey of the Day.
They chose you.
This is a breakfast club, bitches.
Who's Donkey of the day today?
Well, donkey of the day for Tuesday, July 27th
goes to two individuals from Wichita Falls, Texas.
Okay, a 20-year-old man named William Henderson
and a 34-year-old woman named Rochelle Convery.
Now, remember last hour when you was talking about
the Brooklyn Nets owner who bought a condo for...
Joe Sy.
Yes, for $157 million in Brooklyn,
and Kanye spent a million a day to rent out Mercedes-Benz Stadium to finish his album.
And we got into a quick discussion about how people got it.
That's just not true.
The gap between the haves and have-nots is wider than it's ever been,
and these two individuals, William and Rochelle, definitely fall into the have-not category.
I really don't think y'all appreciate your blessings enough people out here starving it's hard to see
that sometime when you personally live a certain lifestyle but people are out here hurting not
knowing where their next meal is coming from and when your ribs is touching like that everybody
fooled everybody's a lick okay people wondering why violent crime is up all across the country
it's because people need money people need cash they're going to get that dough by any means necessary. How the great
black philosopher Sean Carter once said, broke is don't want no cash. They just want to kill you.
That is true, too, because people are hurt, people in pain, people got traumas, traumas they haven't
dealt with, and they end up projecting that hurt and that trauma onto others. OK, that's where a
lot of the violence stems from.
In the case of William and Rochelle, that's what it feels like to me. See, William and Rochelle have been arrested and charged with aggravated robbery.
Who did they rob? What did they take?
Well, let's go to KFDX NBC3 for the report, please.
Two people remain behind bars tonight after police say they robbed a woman in a wheelchair of her groceries.
20-year-old William Henderson and 34-year-old Rochelle Conbray were arrested this morning
and charged with aggravated robbery.
When officers spoke to the victim, she said she had been pepper sprayed and robbed.
During a confrontation with the victim, Conbray took out pepper spray from her purse.
Henderson then took that from Conbray and sprayed the victim in the face.
The pair then took mayonnaise, potato chips and a portable fan from the victim and left the scene.
The victim told police the names of the suspects,
and officers found them about 15 minutes later in the 1000 block of Holiday Street
with the victim's property and the pepper spray.
Now, according to a law firm in Texas called Lust of Law,
aggravated robbery without any criminal history can get you a sentence in Texas ranging from a minimum minimum of five years to ninety nine years.
Our life in prison. Think about that. William and Rochelle took a penitentiary chance of epic proportions for some potato chips, a portable fan and some mayonnaise.
We don't even know what kind of mayonnaise was it helman's dukes heinz i
mean it's not like knowing what kind of mayonnaise justifies anything they did but if they went to
jail for some store brand mayonnaise it just makes this hee haw hit harder now look i scribe to not
judge people for what they do when they are in survival mode but can you imagine getting five
years in prison possibly 99 years in prison because you stole potato chips mayonnaise and a portable fan
from a woman in a wheelchair what kind of potato chips were they kettle sea salt and vinegar miss
vicky sea salt and vinegar cool ranch doritos chili cheese fritos chili cheese fritos i mean
those my favorite chips not that it matters it justifies what they did based on the brand of
potato chips inquiring minds like myself would just like to know because I'm always intrigued by how the human brain works and what moves people to make these kind of choices.
Now, the portable fan is self-explanatory. I was looking at the temperature this week in
Wichita Falls. They got highs of 103 with over 80% humidity. Totally understand why you would
take the portable fan. No need to explain that one. But I do want to know when people do things like this, are they aware of the consequences of their actions?
Because if you have to rob someone for a portable fan, some potato chips and some mayonnaise, then you don't have money for a paid attorney.
You just don't. They're going to give you a public defender and the public defender is going to do their job and they probably will do a good job.
But you still go into prison. And I'm telling you right now, last thing you want to hear when you're in a prison shower
is I bet you can't eat just one.
Okay, a bunch of people in prison trying to get you to reenact the Doritos finger-licking commercial,
ain't nobody got time for all that.
The moral of the story is don't make a permanent decision based on temporary emotions, okay?
That woman y'all pepper sprayed, that woman in that wheelchair y'all pepper sprayed and robbed is traumatized.
She's going to have to do a lot of work to move that trauma through her body and william and rochelle y'all going to
prison i don't care if it's the minimum of five years or the maximum of 99 years or somewhere in
between you're going to prison for a permanent period of time based off temporary feelings and
circumstances now i don't have anything much to say here except now it's time to play a game of Guess What Race It Is!
All right.
Wichita Falls, Texas.
William is 20.
Rochelle is 34.
They pepper sprayed a woman in a wheelchair and robbed her for potato chips, a portable fan, and mayonnaise.
Angela Yee, Guess What Race It Is!
Let's start with William because it is two people.
Caucasian. You think they're both Caucasian? Yes. You say that without a shadow of a doubt. Guess what race it is. Let's start with William because it is two people.
Caucasian.
You think they're both Caucasian?
Yes.
You say that without a shadow of a doubt.
No doubt.
Why?
Just from the whole description.
Are there a lot of black people in Wichita?
I don't know.
I'm not sure about that.
Okay.
And the mayonnaise.
All right. The mayonnaise is really a dead giveaway.
DJ Envy.
White. W Envy. White.
Which?
You take both of them, William and Rochelle.
Yes.
What gave it away?
Mayonnaise.
Mayonnaise?
Too much goddamn mayonnaise.
Well, I would have to say that y'all are 50% correct with this one.
It's a trick question.
Rochelle is absolutely Caucasian.
Okay.
Okay.
William is Indian.
Don't you even think about it, Red.
Don't you even think about it.
Okay.
But William is Indian.
Yes.
Oh, okay.
Yes.
So please give William, what's his name? But William is Indian. Yes. Oh, okay. Yes. Huh.
So please give William, what's his name?
Please give William Henderson and Rochelle Conbury the biggest hee-haw.
I play every genre of music, but.
I don't think we've ever had an Indian, and guess what race it is.
And I don't even want Red to even assume.
Okay, I got you. Okay?
That is smart, smart choice.
Don't even assume.
Smart choice.
All right.
All right.
Well, thank you for that donkey today.
Yes, indeed.
When we come back, earlier we were talking about the baby in the rumors.
Can we play what he said while he was performing that roll-a-lap?
You didn't show up today with HIV, AIDS, any of them deadly,
sexual, transmissive diseases that'll make you die in two, three weeks. Put a cell phone light in the air.
Lady, if your b**** smell like water,
put a cell phone light in the air.
Fellas. Lights up.
Fellas, if you ain't sucking b**** in the parking lot,
put your cell phone light in the air. Let's be real
about this b****.
Keep it f****** real. Some of y'all s*** suspect
as a mom f******. Let's be real.
Alright. What are your thoughts?
Let's just open up the phone lines, have a conversation.
800-585-1051.
What are your thoughts?
Call us up now.
It's The Breakfast Club.
Good morning.
The Breakfast Club.
It's topic time.
Pick up the phone, baby.
Call 800-585-1051 to join in to the discussion with The Breakfast Club.
Morning, everybody.
It's DJ Envy, Angela Yee, Charlamagne Tha God.
We are The Breakfast Club.
Now, if you just joined us, we're talking about DaBaby.
He was performing at Rolling Loud.
This is what he said on stage.
You didn't show up today with HIV, AIDS, any of them deadly,
sexual, expanse-magnetic diseases that'll make you die in two, three weeks.
Put a cell phone light in the air. Lady, if your two, three weeks, put a cell phone light in the air.
Lady, if your b**** smell like water,
put a cell phone light in the air.
Fellas.
Lights up.
Fellas, if you ain't sucking b**** in the parking lot,
put your cell phone light in the air.
Let's be real about this b****.
Yeah, keep it f**** real.
Some of y'all b**** suspect as a mom, f****.
Let's be real.
All right, so we're asking 805-85-1051.
What are your thoughts?
I mean, of course, I thought
it was problematic. And you know, we do so
much work with
HIV testing and we do
this testing twice a year at the Juice Bar
and have had conversations.
I've been on panels with people who are living
very thriving out here
who are HIV positive. It's not
something that you're necessarily going to die from
in two or three weeks.
We need to erase that stigma of that's what happens
if you're diagnosed with HIV, it's already hard enough.
And then of course, the whole thing about
if you're a guy who was doing whatever in the parking lot,
like those people buy your music too, right?
So who cares what anybody's doing?
Does it make sense to me?
And I don't understand even with T the comparison to little nas x and little nas x celebrating who he
is as a person without putting anybody down yeah my thoughts are the same you know that i had earlier
leave people alone folks not bothering you so why are you bothering them like i'm all about protecting
my peace and one of the best ways to not disturb your peace is to not disturb someone else's okay
leave people alone.
My other thought is everything the baby said, I've heard a DJ or party host say before.
Like, if the poom poom clean, let me hear you scream.
You know, if you don't have, you know, such and such disease, make some noise.
I never heard the giving the fellatio in the parking lot one.
That was new.
You also haven't been to the club in a while.
I haven't been to the club.
I've been to the club all the time.
Do people say that still? Which one? Any of those things. Clearly, the club in a while. Envy in the club all the time. Do people say that still?
Which one?
Any of those things.
Clearly, the baby just said it.
They say if you don't have STD, make some noise.
They say that all the time.
The baby just said it, clearly.
They always say, women, if your vagina is clean, let me hear you scream.
I hear that all the time.
Make some noise.
But I ain't never heard the fellatio in the parking lot one.
Now, y'all still be in the club.
Y'all hear that?
I never heard that one.io in the parking lot one. Now, y'all still be in the club. Y'all hear that? I never heard that one.
That was a new one.
Did the baby and his crew see something on the way walking in or something?
Like, what the hell?
I never heard that one.
Let's go to the phone line.
What's your thoughts?
Leave people alone.
Especially you, because you was that dude in the parking lot.
Wasn't you, Ava?
I didn't get no one out, sir.
We didn't hear you scream.
Leave people alone, sir. We didn't hear you scream. Leave people alone, sir.
For real, though.
Leave people alone.
And I do understand that we live in an era where, you know,
social media encourages you to volunteer your opinion about issues
that don't concern you.
But God damn, man.
Do people have to have an opinion about everything?
Yes.
And I do want to say, Fatia, you live in Atlanta.
You don't want your kids to see certain things.
You are in the blue.
We trying to say about Atlanta.
Now people are going to be mad at you about Atlanta.
I mean it.
It is what it is.
Hello, who's this?
Good morning.
It's Mitra, a.k.a.
Am I in my own lane driving fast?
What's up, y'all?
In your own lane driving fast.
Good morning, my lady.
Slow down, Mitra.
Okay.
What are your thoughts about the babysitter?
I think he was absolutely
incorrect and out of line.
What does sexual orientation have to do with anything
being at a
festival?
It doesn't.
I agree with you.
Rolling loud.
Hello, who's this?
Hi, this is Roya from Brooklyn. Good morning.
Hey, good morning. What did you think about what the baby said?
Well, you said it was a little crazy,
but I don't think he was trying to disrespect anyone in any kind of way.
I think that was his way of trying to hype up the crowd.
Call to action.
Yeah, it was.
It was a call to action.
I don't think it was intentional either,
but it's just one of those things like when you're on stage
and you don't have anything else to say,
so you just start saying anything.
Yeah, that's what it was. And you know the mentality that we have sometimes. It might not be the best.
But he was just saying anything that came to his head. And you should know, you're a DJ.
I know you say certain things to the crowd just to hype them up in that moment.
You know what I'm saying? So I think that's what it was.
Now I'm not gonna lie. Back in the day we're trying to do. Now, I'm not going to lie.
Back in the day, the DJ used to do the HIV one.
If you don't have HIV, make some noise.
Make some noise.
I definitely heard that before.
Not justifying it, saying it's right.
You shouldn't shame people.
Not at all.
Yeah, I don't think it was right to you, but I don't think it sent us to harm or hurt anyone.
That's the only thing.
So that's my view on that.
And it's all about perspective, right?
Because when you say,
if you're poom-poom clean,
let me hear you scream.
What about women who are poom-poom and clean?
Well, and then, you know...
You're shaming them?
And it rolled aloud.
They told me it was very stinky out there.
It rolled aloud.
They said it was because people were out there
all day long.
So it was like the smell was...
So ain't nobody clean.
Nobody poom-poom clean
and nobody ass clean.
They all smell. Okay.
Hey, man. Listen, I used to get offended.
It shouldn't smell, though, like
just because it's sweaty. I don't know.
I don't know. Yeah, I don't have a vagina. You tell us.
Well, that's arguable.
What? That you smell or I have a vagina?
That you don't have one. Shut up.
800-585-1051.
We're talking about the baby.
What are your thoughts?
It's the Breakfast Club tomorrow.
Call me.
Add your opinion to the Breakfast Club topic.
Come on.
800-585-1051.
Morning, everybody.
It's DJ Envy, Angela Yee, Charlamagne Tha Guy.
We are The Breakfast Club.
Now, if you just join us, we're talking about DaBaby.
He was performing at Roller Loud.
My son was actually there.
He said he killed it.
So we're asking.
He said this during Roller Loud, and we want to know your thoughts.
You didn't show up today with HIV, AIDS, any of them deadly,
sexual, and cosmetic diseases that'll make you die in two, three weeks.
Put a cell phone light in the air.
Lady, if your b**** smell like water, put a cell phone light in the air.
Fellas.
Lights up.
Fellas, if you ain't sucking b**** in the parking lot, put your cell phone light in the air.
Let's be real about this b****.
Yo, keep it f**** real.
Some of y'all d*** suspect has a mom f****.
Let's be real.
Hello, who's this?
Yeah, this is Chris from Jersey.
Chris, good morning.
What do you think about what the baby said?
Yeah, I mean, he was wrong for what he said.
But at the same time, like, we can't –
the ski coach is a little bit out of control.
We can't chain that man into thinking like, you know, we do
or forcing him to say things that, you know,
we may feel that it's appropriate or apologizing.
Like, he has the right to say whatever he wants to say,
as long as he's not affecting anybody's life or livelihood.
But you are affecting somebody's life, though, because, you know, you're right.
You know, we shouldn't shame him, but he shouldn't shame other people.
That's why I say everybody should just mind their business.
You know what I'm saying?
Leave people alone.
I agree with that.
But to the point where we got to indict him for his words and say,
hey, no, you're wrong
and you have to apologize.
I mean, nobody's telling him what you have to do.
What would be the right thing to do and what would
be beneficial in a situation like
this? You know, this could be a learning
teachable moment for a lot of people, including
himself. It's okay to say something
and be wrong.
Hello, who's this?
How we doing? It's T.
Alright, man. What's your thoughts on the baby, bro?
Man, I feel like
I don't know, man.
I kind of feel the same way
baby do as far as,
you know,
what he did was for his people
at the show,
but the baby got to know
what kind of platform
he on, too.
So if he say one thing,
he can take it
in three different ways
from a whole different group
of people that he ain't
even talking about.
But people got to stop giving their feelings
about everything that gets said.
Well, it's impossible because we live in an era
that encourages everybody to volunteer their opinion
because of social media.
Like, we literally live in an era
that encourages people to volunteer their opinion
about issues that don't concern them
or have nothing to do with them.
Right, you are 100% correct.
And does that or does not fall
that not fall in the line of people minding their business mind your business man that that right
there is the moral of the story leave people alone folks not bothering you so why are you bothering
them mind your business absolutely you wouldn't have to explain anything or anyone to anybody if
you just minded your business and we need better calls to action okay grab your penis if you just minded your business. And we need better calls to action.
Okay? Grab your penis if you love
hip-hop. If you're poom-poom clean, let me hear you scream.
Can't do that one. I don't think you should grab your penis.
I don't think you should grab your penis. That was biggie!
So, my point exactly. You said a different call
to action. Yeah, I don't know if you should. I said we need
better calls to action. Oh, better.
Yes. So let's come up with some better call to action. Grab your penis
if you love hip-hop. If you're poom-poom clean, let me hear
you scream. If you gave some fellatio in the parking lot, make some noise.
If you don't have HIV, make some noise.
Get rid of all that.
We need better calls to action.
How about the, if you got a $50 bill, put your hands up.
I like that, but that's broke-shaming.
What if I ain't got $50?
What if I ain't got $50?
If you love yourself, put your hands up.
If you love yourself, put your hands in the air.
If you have Apple Pay.
Some people ain't got Apple Pay.
If you've invested in cryptocurrency, let me hear you make some noise what we're saying right here is important
because we need calls to action that literally include everybody and you can have those if you
hear with your best friend make some noise envy does that i do that that's why swag surf is so
dope because you're like you're here with your best friend You got your best friend
On your left
You got your best friend
On the right
Put your hands on them
It don't matter
Your financial status
Don't matter your race
Don't matter
You know
Anything
Your sexuality
When swag surf come on
You're just with your best friend
You're showing love
That's what we need
Better calls to actions
Envy that was a good one
If you love yourself
Make some noise
If you go to bed
At nine o'clock
Let me hear you scream
That's right baby
Why is your old ass In here then Okay We ain't doing no good one. If you love yourself, make some noise. If you go to bed at 9 o'clock, let me hear you scream. That's right, baby!
Why is your old ass in here then?
Okay? We ain't doing no old cassette this night, tonight.
Be in the club waiting for BBD Poison to drop.
As soon as I hear BBD Poison,
I'm out. We got rumors on the way, Yeek.
Alright, well let's not mind our business in the
rumor report. We'll talk about the Hornets,
PJ Washington, and
Instagram model Brittany Renner.
You know, they had a baby together, and now it looks like they're having some problems in paradise publicly on social media.
All right, we'll get into that next.
It's The Breakfast Club.
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What's wrong with you?
Morning, everybody.
It's DJ, MV, Angela Yee, Charlamagne Tha God.
We are The Breakfast Club.
Good morning.
Good morning.
What's happening?
Happy Tuesday.
Happy Tuesday.
Let's get to the rumors.
Let's talk Cardi B.
This is The Rumor Report
with Angela Yee.
Well, Cardi B and Normani,
their song Wild Side,
which, by the way, I love.
Y'all like that song?
Mm-hmm.
I don't remember what it sounded like.
That's when they put out the video for it. Last week?
Yeah, I gotta listen again. Alright, so
Normani had tweeted out
who y'all hear on the remix.
And then one person said, this might be a hot
take, but honestly, Cardi should have been the remix.
I don't know why y'all didn't release this song as your
solo single. I get why she's on it,
but should have been the remix in my humble opinion.
Now, Cardi B responded, same people that says this ish is the same people that didn't buy ish.
Don't request on radio, not streaming, not adding no value or numbers to the song,
but opinions on Twitter for a hit tweet because hating, but keeping up with Cardi, it's what's in.
From this day forward, I won't promote or talk about the song
and tell Normani's team to release a version without my vocal.
Yay, now your wish and desires came true.
Make sure you stream it, though.
Don't have me making calls for no reason.
I'm not trolling.
I've been getting disrespected up and down and ignoring
because I love the song and the person,
but me and my fans not finna be getting disrespected.
Salute the body, but that's one person's opinion.
Then what did Normani do?
She says she does love the song and the person, Normani.
Now, Normani Now Normani posted
Tweeted out
Can't imagine this record
Without you
That's the tweet
I don't think you guys
Understand how hard
This woman has gone for me
You have been a champion
For me throughout
This whole process
Even when I was
Freaking out the night
Before releasing
God Don't Play
When it comes to his
We Good Sis
Oh so that's Normani's record
Yeah
Oh okay okay
I thought it was
Cardi's record
No Normani's
Now Normani also opened up
About her mom's Breast cancer battle And how Wild Side Helped get them record yeah oh okay okay i thought it was cardi's record no normani normani also opened up about
her mom's breast cancer battle and how wild side helped get them through the darkest time
this past year my mom was diagnosed with breast cancer so for me this work that i was able to put
out into the world like this really saved me to be completely honest and like even just being on
facetime with her as she's going through her
her chemo and her radiation and just wanted me to update her on how this video is going and how
the music is coming like it really got her through that and it got my family through the darkest time
of our lives i like that she's leaning into the love that's what i would tell everybody even with
the cardi situation if you got 100 people telling you how much they love the record and the record
is doing numbers getting spins lean into the love man we gotta start
leaning into love more and shout out to brianna who did that interview as well all right now let's
talk about hornets pj washington and britney renner the two of them have a child together
and i follow her so i've been seeing it looks like you know they've been in love in this
relationship together that's always confusing because i guess the two of them broke up.
They scrubbed each other off their social media accounts.
They've been taking some shots at each other, some subs on their IG stories.
She posted, sometimes when something doesn't work out as you want it, there's something better coming your way.
Although it's difficult to believe in something better from where you stand.
Sometimes redirection is a helpful intervention leading you away from problems you could not predict.
He posted, you can never build a kingdom with someone who still craves attention from the village.
And then he said, you was faking it all along.
And so now NBA fans are offering their condolences toward P.J. Washington now that he's going to likely be forced to pay child support payments.
And they're bringing up some of the things that Brittany Renner has said in the past.
If you guys recall, she's the one who... I was going to ask, who's Brittany Renner?
She does a lot of working out.
She's kind of a fitness model.
No, but she works out for real.
She does these really difficult working out regimens.
But she also had a book out.
And she was the one that talked about Colin Kaepernick
making her
fly herself out to see him
and things like that. And she did a book
about people that she's been with in the industry.
And so now people are bringing
up this old
audio.
First people to deal with are the athletes.
None of them use home games really.
So if y'all really want to try to come up off a check off
a man, you could just f*** an athlete. They're really
done.
Sheesh. So they're saying that she got him.
I have no idea what I'm
listening to when I'm sending everybody healing energy.
That's all you got?
You didn't hear what she said? I'm sending all parties
involved healing energy. I don't know what was happening
just now. Alright. Now
Britney Spears has filed a petition
to get a replacement for her father in
this conservatorship. Her attorney
Matthew Rosengart has filed that petition requesting that Jason Rubin replace her father in this conservatorship. Her attorney, Matthew Rosengart, has filed that petition
requesting that Jason Rubin replace her father as conservator.
They're also seeking to grant Rubin with powers of attorney
over her career and health care decisions.
He is described as a certified public accountant,
and he's also practicing a forensic accountant since 1993.
He specializes in things like bankruptcy and restructuring,
as well as fiduciary and trust litigation. And so what they're saying is her father's been really
making a lot of money off of her. He makes $16,000 a month just for being the conservator of her
estate. And her assets are listed at over $2.7 million, with about $56.3 million tied up in
investment accounts in real estate. So she's trying to get her everything back, and she deserves it, as we can see.
A lot of people have now been speaking up.
Now, her mother is staying kind of tight-lipped about things.
TMZ did approach her at the airport, and she didn't say much about it,
but she does want to keep her thoughts to herself right now.
But her mom has already said that in these legal documents
that she does want to remove Brittany's dad from her conservatorship as well.
So she's not saying anything about it right now publicly, but that is what she wants to do as well.
All right. And a live action Pokemon series is in development at Netflix.
Are you guys interested in that? It's in the really early stages.
So now I'm sure my kids are.
Nope.
You didn't used to play Pokemon at all?
No.
No, and I thought it was very weird
and everybody was looking through their phones
looking for Pokemon.
I enjoyed it.
That's when I knew life had jumped the shark.
Do you remember that?
It kind of went away.
A couple years ago, everybody was...
I was doing it.
And it was really funny when the Pokemon,
like, the characters would be on people.
Oh, my God, no.
People used to be pointing their phones.
You'd be like, hey, you a Pokemon on your head. You better get
away from me. I thought it was stupid. I never played
that evil. Alright, now, Everybody
Hates Chris. The animated
reboot is in the works at CBS
Studios and it will
be executive produced and written by
Sanjay Shah, who also did Central Park.
And so it is based on
obviously Chris Rock's family
sitcom that's autobiographical, Everybody Hates Chris. Now I'm here for that. obviously Chris Rock's family sitcom that's autobiographical Everybody Hates Chris
and Chris Rock is going to return as a narrator
and executive producer as well
I'm all in for that
Everybody Hates Chris is hilarious
Alright well that is your
rumor report. Alright thank you
Miss Yee. Now up next
we got the People's Choice Mix. Get your request in Revolt
We'll see you guys tomorrow
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Charlamagne Tha Guy. We are The Breakfast Club.
Now, shout out to Adam for joining us this morning from
the head of Instagram. Envy can't pronounce
his last name. That's why he said just Adam.
Adam Mosseri. Yeah, Adam Mosseri.
You can follow him on at Instagram
Mosseri. He came through and discussed
a lot of different things about Instagram.
You know, we just try to make Instagram a more mentally healthy place.
Personally, I think we're going to have to pull a plug on all this social media
because it's having too many impacts on actual human behavior.
But we shall see.
And listen, I want to salute the homie Anita Kopex, man.
We are a week away from the release of her debut book, Shallow Waters.
Shallow Waters is the story of Yemiya, you know, from the continent of Africa to the Underground Railroad.
You know, it's just a story about owning your own power, realizing who you truly are.
And I really cannot wait to see what that book does to the ecosystem.
It's a young adult fiction book.
You know, it's the first fiction book off my book imprint,
Black Privileged Publishing.
Second release
from Black Privileged Publishing
and it'll be out next Tuesday,
August the 3rd,
so you can pre-order now,
but, you know,
thank you to everybody
from Harper's Bazaar
to Publishers Weekly,
you know,
to Essence,
everybody who's reviewed the book.
It's getting such great reviews
and, you know,
just thank you.
But next Tuesday,
August 3rd,
Shallow Waters will be out.
Anita Kopach.
So you can pre-order now or just buy it everywhere you buy books next week.
All right.
All right.
When we come back, positive notice to Breakfast Club.
Good morning.
Morning, everybody.
It's DJ Envy, Angela Yee, Charlamagne Tha Guy.
We are the Breakfast Club.
We're less than three weeks away from our car show, Atlanta.
Atlantic City, I should say,
Coachella, Atlantic City,
August 14th.
If you haven't got your tickets,
get them.
Your favorite celebrity cars
will be there,
from Lil Uzi Vert
to Fabulous
to French Montana 50,
Currency, Lil Kim.
It's going to be a lot of fun.
So many different vendors,
so many rides for the kids.
They've got monster trucks.
It's going to be
a big family fun day.
So get your tickets ASAP.
And I also want to shout out to Glamour Magazine.
I'm actually in there because I
did one of my recipes. I bet y'all
don't know I be cooking a little bit.
So I did this oven roasted veggie wrap.
It's very spicy. And so
make sure you guys check that out.
If there's anybody out there that is
trying to be a vegetarian, you won't even miss
any type of chicken or meat when you make something like this.
All right.
Well, you got a positive note, Shaliman?
I do, man.
And it comes from, you know, what I was talking about,
or what we were talking about earlier when we was talking about, you know,
everything that was going on yesterday on social media.
I know it's hard, man.
But, you know, Epiticus, I think I'm pronouncing Epiticus right.
Epiticus once said,
Keep your attention focused entirely on what is truly your own concern
and be clear that what belongs to others is their business and none of yours.
Breakfast club, bitches!
Y'all finished or y'all done?
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Had enough of this country?
Ever dreamt about starting your own?
I planted the flag.
This is mine.
I own this.
It's surprisingly easy.
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No country willingly gives up
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