The Breakfast Club - Maino Interview

Episode Date: August 18, 2015

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Starting point is 00:03:28 Join the Breakfast Club. Blast off in your head. Weekday mornings, 6 to 10. Yep, Charlamagne Tha God, Angelina, the world's most dangerous morning show, The Breakfast Club. Any of you had to run out to do something. And we got the King of Brooklyn here.
Starting point is 00:03:38 Yeah. Mayno. Mayno. King of Brooklyn 3. Yeah. You look like you in the gym heavy, my brother. Is that what it look like? Or not. It could be deceiving. you in the gym heavy, my brother. Is that what it look like? Or not. It could be deceiving.
Starting point is 00:03:46 Your diet done changed? I go maybe twice a month. Really? To the gym twice a month? Yeah. Maybe three times. I'm not doing as well as I should be. If I was going to the gym maybe three times a week, I'd be really lost.
Starting point is 00:04:03 But I don't go as much as I should. But when I do go, I do a lot of cardio. Yeah, me too. You know, I like to try to stay lean and burn the fat. I'm saying you look lean. Would you change the diet or something? A little bit. Like I was staying away from the bread, staying away from all the carbs,
Starting point is 00:04:21 you know, the potatoes, the rice, and stuff like that, and just trying to maintain, you know what I mean? Listen, these dudes ain't better than me, and they definitely ain't cuter, you know what potatoes the rice and stuff like that and just trying to maintain you know I mean listen these dudes ain't better than me any any definitely cuter you know I gotta maintain girls be like you so I gotta can't be all flabby and sick you know I know I saw the most recent rumor was you in Blac Chyna I saw you guys posted up on the blogs and everything. You saw it? Really? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:04:48 I didn't know I saw that. I didn't see that either. That's the first time I heard that. Oh, Google it right now. You'll see. Don't surprise me. It's made up. Why don't people think you could just be friends with a woman, though? People don't think I could be friends?
Starting point is 00:05:03 Yeah. Why? Every time you take a picture. I don't think that they don't think. I don't think people believe that. You think people believe that? Me and you, look, our relationship. We've never, ever, like, me and you like this.
Starting point is 00:05:17 Even though you don't handle certain business for me. I got you, man. Angelique got so much girlfriend. That it's better to be her friend so she can throw you in a sentence. It forces you into position to be like, you know what? Let me just be your brother. There you go. That's probably what it is.
Starting point is 00:05:33 That's probably what it is. There you go. Now, KLB3? Yeah. Out right now. All right, I'm going to tell you some of my favorite songs in there. I like the PMP song with Chings. That's right.
Starting point is 00:05:43 I like that, too. That's it right there. I think that should be a single right there. I like the PMP song with Chings. That's right. That's it right there. I think that should be a single right there. You know what? That was originally what it was supposed to be, but I'ma Go Harder Than Them has been moving. And it's crazy that
Starting point is 00:05:57 a lot of times when you see records moving, it's all about the machine that moves it, right? But every now and then you get records that move organically.ically like right now you see all these people posting these workout videos to it you can't buy that that's that's true that's just the the natural you know progression of a record that just you know feels like it it relates to people right so it's it's been doing good man and i feel blessed i feel good man you've been working out you don't even work out that much you know i did i did, I did, you know, I did,
Starting point is 00:06:25 I did, I did, I did two workout videos, or maybe three, and posted it, and then from there, it was just crazy, you know, with everybody posting videos, and, you know, I see one dude, he got the barbell, he throwing up like this, he's singing it at the same time. I'm gonna go harder than him, you know, and it just
Starting point is 00:06:41 feels good to be able to make music that touches people, man, You know what I mean? What exactly are your problems, man? Oh. I see you on Instagram talking about it a lot. Now you got a song about it. Yeah, yeah. And listen, man, shout out to Jinx.
Starting point is 00:06:55 Rest in peace. God bless him, man. You know, I was doing these things on my Instagram. You know, I was calling out dudes for some of the outrageous behavior that they was having like that and it was funny because i would try to make it funny purposely because you know it was like these the problems that only will have you know what i'm saying like these are problems that only will have so i would make it funny like i'll be like yo you know if you're in a club and then you know i'm saying you got your girl and you hold your hands with a girl
Starting point is 00:07:27 and just come by and just touch your girl by her ass and something like that and you turn around you don't do nothing you got problems you know what i'm saying so it was funny and then chinks called me one day and was like yo i see you on instagram man i got something for you and he came with that hook and in that verse and and it was just so crazy we were supposed to shoot the video um we two days like two days before uh before he passed away we was talking about shooting a video so i'm still gonna do it regardless though how did chinks uh death affect you because you a hood dude you be out in the street you play the streets not as much man i'm i'm i got out the streets and I'm fortunate, you know.
Starting point is 00:08:05 I see people in Jersey now. You know what I mean? Nah, but... But he wasn't doing nothing. He wasn't doing nothing. I understand the question, though. Like, it affects me because at the end of the day,
Starting point is 00:08:22 we all black males trying to get away from that life, and we all, you know, sacrifice time with our family and been through certain things in our life and our development, and then we got here, and the whole objective was to try to get away from that. So for that to come back and bite you, yo, listen, I was the first person to post it.
Starting point is 00:08:45 I was the first person to post it. I was the first person to post it because I did a show in Utica and I was on my way back and a homie of mine called me and was like, Tax Stone called me. Tax, what up, Tax? And he said that somebody called him
Starting point is 00:08:59 from the hospital and I spoke the bino and then I posted it and then Meek called me asked me was it true and I was like yeah it was true you know um that could be any one of us we got kids we got families we all trying to you know make this music work for us you understand that's what the objective is we've been to jail we've been we've been in the streets we've been banging with we've been going to war and all that or whatever over money and misunderstandings and stuff like that.
Starting point is 00:09:26 And we get into the game and the whole objective is to win. It's just unfortunate, man. And it bothers me. It bothers me a lot. Because it seems like trouble finds you. You're trying to get away. You're doing everything you can to be out of it. You know,
Starting point is 00:09:42 sometimes it made me feel like because he was so humble to me, you know, and watching him. And I remember him from back when Stack Bundle days and stuff like that. And it was like, it's just like, damn, do it paid. Like, this is why you got to punish all the time. Like, you know what I'm saying? Like, do it paid to be a good.
Starting point is 00:10:02 Sometimes you question. Like, you be the coolest. just come blow your head off. Sometimes it plays with your mind. It's like, you know what? We ain't going to go that negative route. We're going to stay on the same path. We're going to do what we're supposed to do. It's just unfortunate, man.
Starting point is 00:10:17 It touched me because I look at my son. He's 20 years old, and I can't even think of a day where he could be like, damn, my father ain't coming home no more. Absolutely. Well, Amina, I always't even think of a day where he could be like, damn, my father ain't coming home no more. Right. Absolutely. Well, I mean, I always look at you as a business person
Starting point is 00:10:29 and entrepreneur as well, you know, as an artist. So let's talk about some other things that you have going on. I know King of Brooklyn 3 is out right now.
Starting point is 00:10:38 Right now. And I gave it for free. I did it for free. Yeah, you gave it for free. I did it for free. I saw it came out at like midnight. Yeah,
Starting point is 00:10:44 midnight's for free. Let the people have it because free. I did it for free. It's for the people. I thought it came out at like midnight. Yeah, midnight's for free. Let the people have it. Because I want the energy. It sounds like a real album though, not just a free. Yeah, I put my heart and soul into it. That's why I want to touch people's soul. But you know, I'll be out doing different things. You know, we hustling.
Starting point is 00:10:57 You know, I tell you all my business. Right, you're doing television. You finally going to do the TV thing, man? No. Not like you think. Not like you think. Not like you think. I will share this with y'all because you know me, I like
Starting point is 00:11:13 to be unpredictable, you know what I mean? I feel like I'm the underdog and I feel like people they look at me one way, they don't really understand me. So I like to do things and surprise people. But I'm actually I actually developed the show. I actually developed the show.
Starting point is 00:11:30 I wrote a few things out. You know, I got a couple things drafted. And I went, you know, shout out to Isha Entertainment. Michael Herschel. Michael Herschel. Shout out to Melissa Cooper. We partnered up on the show. I don't really want to get into it. Well, it's not what you think it is.
Starting point is 00:11:44 It's not about me. Why didn't you do a show about you don't really want to get into it. I don't really want to get into it. Well, it's not what you think it is. It's not about me. Why didn't you do a show about you? Because that was in the works. That was in the works. You could have did it for the love of May, though. Yeah, but I just felt like I didn't want to show. Because you filmed some of that. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:11:58 You remember. Yeah, we did. We did. It was with VH1. I just felt like I didn't want to show that was that really just catered to my love life i felt like i was more it was more parts to me than just you know my love life and stuff like that and then i guess i get spooked i look at these shows i'll be like damn part of being an artist is some of the mystique that you don't know about everything
Starting point is 00:12:22 and i look at some of these dudes and be like, damn, I liked you, man. I didn't know you was a lame like this. Damn. I just like how Meno uses slick words like love life. Yeah, first of all, I just want to say. And the first thing I thought, Meno, is that your love life is fascinating, if you want to call it a love life.
Starting point is 00:12:42 Why would you say that? Because it's just fascinating. How is that? You're going to put a bad name on it. No, no, no. I feel like it is a I'm trying to think. How can I say this? Mano out here smashing these chicks just like the rest of us.
Starting point is 00:12:56 I feel like Mano at certain points wants to be in love. But then I feel like certain times you don't. And I just don't. I feel like you might get with a good girl and whatever, but then I feel like certain times you don't and I just don't, I feel like you might get with a good girl and whatever, but you just can't,
Starting point is 00:13:10 the dots aren't connecting properly. And women fall in love with Maynard. Do they? I didn't know. I know one female in particular. There you go. What?
Starting point is 00:13:21 Oh, she was in the hospital. See, that's what happens when that's your BFF. You see what happens? She go. Oh, I'm different Here you go. What? Oh, she was in the hospital. See, that's what happens when that's your BFF. You see what happens? Here she go. I'm a BFF. Here she go. No, you don't even know that I know this girl.
Starting point is 00:13:32 Well, anyway, she was upset because I guess she started messing with her. She said the D was so good, she was all broken up over it. Is that so? You and Angelique got a routine going here. That's a major rating. No, I'm just saying it's really, really happening in real life. Is that so? But what would make you cut a girl off?
Starting point is 00:13:50 I'm a simple guy, man. Shut it up. I'm a simple guy. I'm going to fall out the chair. I'm an easygoing dude. You know, they think I'm cute. They say I'm handsome. You feel me? think I'm cute. They say I'm handsome. You feel me?
Starting point is 00:14:06 They like my ways. But listen, I stopped talking to a girl before for not voting. This guy is good. Meno is good as a motherfucker. Jesus Christ. Ladies, make sure you get out there and vote. It's important. Wow. That's important. Wow.
Starting point is 00:14:26 I swear to God, man. You would rather she vote. It don't matter who she votes for. Just get out there and vote. It was something that she said, though. What did she say? It was just so mad, though. This is going all Obama.
Starting point is 00:14:36 It was Obama re-election. She was like, man, my vote don't count. Nah. And somehow we was talking about Obama. I'll be watching the news. Obama came up. And I was like, yo, you voted? She was like, voted?
Starting point is 00:14:47 For what? They going to kill him anyway. I said, what? Wow. Who was that? I said, yo, man, I ain't never spoke to that girl again. No, I'm like that, too. I don't like that kind of ignorant energy.
Starting point is 00:14:57 That's ignorant, though. Like, at the end of the day, like, listen, if we can't, you know, build and grow with each other and learn from each other, then it's just a waste of time. So after you come away from the sex, then what is it really about? That's right. I used to date this girl. She had an inverted nipple.
Starting point is 00:15:13 And I asked her, what is that? And she was like, that's the nipple all the guys like to suck on. I'm like, oh, you got to go. Yeah. There's some deformities out there. I ran into a couple situations, though. But he just didn't want to think about another man sucking on that nipple. It's disgusting to say.
Starting point is 00:15:27 It's disgusting. Yeah, it's just stupid to say, though. Like, for real. We got to be able to build. We got to be able to grow. You know what I mean? At the end of the day, after the club, after the radio, after we're on the road, after the shows, after the whole everything that's going on, and we just chilling in the crib, what's your character like? We need to be able to talk. we build can we talk outside of what's going on in a club can we talk outside of
Starting point is 00:15:53 music i can and if we if i'm with a female that's just talking ignorant is crazy it's like it's a turnoff for me now i also saw you And this really made me laugh On CNN Yeah They had you at As a token inmate Yeah as an inmate correspondent And they were like Mina was actually locked up In this jail
Starting point is 00:16:19 That the escapees Yeah they called me up to CNN And I thought I was like you know what Cool I'll do it I'll do it You I'll do it. You know it's the first time. But they kept calling me to come back, and I was like, what they want to talk about?
Starting point is 00:16:40 They want to know, you know, they want to know the relationships between inmates, you know, female inmates and, you know, female guards and inmates. And I was like, listen, there's certain things that go on in here that shouldn't be told. Yeah, you don't want to blow the pipe on that. Exactly. I got friends that's in prison that might be in situations where they,
Starting point is 00:16:50 you know, they might be situated. You feel me? Right. And I can't be on national, on CNN. International. This is what happens
Starting point is 00:17:00 in prison. This is what happens, you know, they bring in Twinkies and you know what I'm saying? Sneaking in, you know, fish sticks and shit like that. I can't be, I'm not, happens. Yeah. Like, this is what happens. You know, they bring in Twinkies and, you know what I'm saying? Sneaking in, you know, fish sticks and shit like that. Like, I can't be, I'm not, no. Right.
Starting point is 00:17:09 You can't break that. So I was very careful about even the first time when I, you know, when I went up there and when I talked about it. But it was a great experience, though. You know, just to be there. I turned on my TV, seen Mano on CNN. I was like, what is this? Exactly.
Starting point is 00:17:21 I like to see her dudes that are smart in those situations, though. You're smart as the new gangster, though. We elevating, though, man. You know what I'm saying? The whole thing is to inspire the hood. They know what I come from. They know what it is. It ain't like you don't know.
Starting point is 00:17:36 Because I pull up. You know what it is. But the whole thing is about showing them that we can get to a whole other plateau. We can do other things. We can have that dirt on us, those felonies and these situations in the streets, but we could rise above it. And that's all my music,
Starting point is 00:17:52 and that's all my whole being ever been about. Word up. Now, last time you was here, and I salute you on this, you predicted that the next time you was here, your soul case would be dropped and your name would be cleared. Oh, of course.
Starting point is 00:18:04 And that happened. I told you. I told happened. I told you. I told you. I told you. And I didn't want to talk about it then. About the bitch lying on me like that. Lying on a brother. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:18:13 On a good brother. And you clean that. Yeah. On a good brother. Yes. I was very upset when Mando got accused of assault. Yeah, because they called you. They always calling you.
Starting point is 00:18:23 They knew they called you. They always calling you. They knew they called you. They called you up and wanted to jump all over the radio and spill these lies out and stuff like that. But listen, I ain't lose no sleep about that because at the end of the day. You sure didn't. You was like, man, I was asleep. I said, you calling me about that, man? Man, hang up, man.
Starting point is 00:18:39 I'm going to sleep. Because at the end of the day, we don't come out in the wash, we don't come out in the rinse. So I knew. I wasn't worried about that. Does it piss you off though that like when
Starting point is 00:18:46 the bad stuff happens whether it's true or not media all over it case get dropped you might get one yo I swear to god listen that shit was in the paper
Starting point is 00:18:55 four times when it first happened and then it was in the paper maybe once or twice but it was on every blog every blog when it happened
Starting point is 00:19:03 I was like people call me like yo you did this and I'm like you really when it happened. I was like, people call me like, yo, you did this? And I'm like, you really think I did that? I was more mad at that. So when they found out that she was lying and they put the press release out, only like two, three blogs picked it up. I was like, wow. Nobody cares about the truth when the lie is more entertaining.
Starting point is 00:19:21 Nobody cares about the truth. And that's it. Man, that's the realest thing I heard all morning. Nobody cares about the truth. When the lie is more entertaining. When the lie is more entertaining. Nobody cares about the truth. And that's it. That's, man, that's the realest thing I heard all morning. Nobody cares about the truth. When the lie is more entertaining. When the lie is more entertaining. I might run with that. Next album. Yeah, I might run with that. A lot going on in hip-hop, man. Everybody beefing but you, man.
Starting point is 00:19:36 What's up, man? You ain't had a beef in a while. Nobody want to beef with me, man. I'm a ringer. I be playing rough. Nah, I mean, listen. Who I'm beef ringer I be playing rough Nah I mean Listen It's Who I'ma beef with though It's nobody To really
Starting point is 00:19:50 I don't know I just think I had to spend more time Getting myself together Than me beefing with niggas About nothing About frivolous stuff like that But who beefing
Starting point is 00:19:59 Beefing is good music though Absolutely It's healthy competition Could you handle that Cause we had Gunplay up here Gunplay was like He don't want nobody Rapping about him Because he couldn't handle it He have to could you answer that because we had gunplay up here gunplay was like he don't want nobody rapping about him because he couldn't handle it he have to see you well it depends no i can't say i couldn't handle it but it depends
Starting point is 00:20:13 on the nature of what the situation is gotcha you know some some be disrespectful or to the point where it'd be like you know what i'm gonna. I can't even. I just need to really, you know, see about the situation and address it in a different way. But what's going on right now is cool, man. It's cool. I ain't got a problem with it. I think it's good for the culture because I think where hip-hop fell into this whole fake love, everybody friendly, there's no competition,
Starting point is 00:20:44 everybody holding each other's hand and kissing and holding and hugging and acting like family and all that. It was just nasty. It's okay not to like each other. Some people, if y'all don't get along, you don't have to pretend. I'm cool with not being cool with everybody.
Starting point is 00:21:00 I'm comfortable with that. It's like you build your own gang. Right. I'm not down with nobody. I'm by myself,. It's like you build your own gang. Right. I'm not down with nobody. I'm by myself and I've always been by myself. But that's why my role been you know, the way it's been because when
Starting point is 00:21:13 things not going good for me, I don't have another artist to lean on. I don't have a whole situation. It's just me. When artists come up in Brooklyn do you feel like, for the most part do people reach out to Maino In particular from Brooklyn To be like
Starting point is 00:21:27 Hey I just wanna Well Well Most artists that come from Brooklyn Nine times out of ten I I kinda know Yeah
Starting point is 00:21:37 Through some way Some You know some Yeah I know them You know And I always Try to extend myself
Starting point is 00:21:44 You know For them Because always try to extend myself, you know, for them. Because, like, you got this artist that's coming up, you know, to Millie. Yeah, I saw you, Millie, back in doing the remix. Yeah, we did the remix. We shot the video and all that. And that was just about me just, they from Gates Avenue. And I just was feeling like, this is love, man. I love to see that.
Starting point is 00:22:05 You know what I mean? And I love, because nobody helped me like that. So I wanted to be able to just give a little bit of support. You know what I mean? Because the video was only on YouTube. So I wanted to, you know what I mean? If we shoot it again, we got a chance to hit world star and everywhere else. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:22:21 So, you know, it was all good. Does it help or hurt artists to keep it so New York? and everywhere else, you know what I mean? So, you know, it was all good. Does it help or hurt artists to keep it so New York? Because I've seen you got this song with Vito and Uncle Murda now. Yeah, but I also got a song with Kevin Gates. I always have been an artist to work with artists outside of the thing. I'm like, I fuck with whoever, anybody. I'm not confined to just New York. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:22:44 I love New York. You travel all over. Yeah. We just got back from Japan. You know? So it's cool. I work with whoever, and if we connect and the music is dope, then it's all good. I must admit, they say you got a number one dance hit with Erika Jayne?
Starting point is 00:23:00 Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Number one. Yeah, yeah. We had a number one record. When did that happen? Yeah. Quiet. This is what I'm saying.
Starting point is 00:23:05 Quiet money, quiet things going on out here. You know what I'm saying? When you're a hustler, like, you're into different things. You see? It's not just putting your eggs in one basket, you know? And just because you may not have the number one urban record going on, just other things you got going on. And that was a video.
Starting point is 00:23:23 And we had fun. We went to L.A. I had a great time time and that's a whole nother genre you know so yeah shout out to erica jane you know that there was in scott starch because we put that together how'd that happen um i was in a club it was a greenhouse and um i ran into scottorch and Elvonna. She's fine. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Scott Storch and Elvonna. And we went, he was like, yo, I got the studio, let's go. So after the club, we went to the studio and we wrote this song.
Starting point is 00:23:53 Me and Elvonna wrote the song together. Wow. Crazy, yeah. Which became Erika Jayne's song, which became a number one record on the dance charts, yeah. Damn. So what do you think about this whole ghostwriting phenomenon in hip-hop since you mentioned writing? It's not really a phenomenon.
Starting point is 00:24:11 It's not a phenomenon, but you know, can you respect the artist if you know he got a ghostwriter? It depends on what the situation is. If you're telling me don't worry if I write rhymes i write checks then i understand what what's going on like that's the puff you know what i mean you we kind of always
Starting point is 00:24:30 respected puff because we knew what it was even if you watch straight out of compton ice cube wrote everybody's raps right but you and even dre like and we kind of love those dudes regardless um um even kanye we always known he's had help writing that's never been a secret right but Even Dre. Yeah, Dre never... And we kind of love those dudes, regardless. Even Kanye, we always known he's had help writing. That's never been a secret. Right, but when you... I think it's different when you're trying to say... When you're basically saying, like, I'm that dude and... This is my life.
Starting point is 00:24:57 I'm a lyricist. Right. I think it becomes a little bit different. But I may care, but I don't think the vast general public cares. Nah, they don't care. You know what I'm saying? Not the fans, right? Maybe like back in,
Starting point is 00:25:11 you know, in the 90s, if something like that would have came out, it would have been like, oh my God, it was like the Holy Grail because you not writing because here's the thing,
Starting point is 00:25:21 all our greats, all the people that we put up on that pedestal let's see big right nice nice whole right who else kiss kiss all those dudes we we like he's like our gods right I rap gods and all them wrote so then is it is it safe to say that we put a dude up there that it may be questionable? It may be questionable. I don't know. Now, we could be a fan of the music.
Starting point is 00:25:53 You know what I mean? I love the music. But is he one of the greats? I don't know. True. I don't know. I get it. But hip-hop is good.
Starting point is 00:26:04 There's a lot of You know There's beefing going on It's all good He said it's good There's beefing going on You just need a little bit more I like how it is now
Starting point is 00:26:12 Where it's a little scary Like when A.R. Abdoms Start getting into it With Meek I like that You said I like that El Melly doing the comeback It's a little bit scary
Starting point is 00:26:20 It's a little scary It's a little My thing with that Like last night I was at Griffin And I saw something happen that really, really bothered me. They put on a Sus 1. Shout out to Sus 1.
Starting point is 00:26:34 Threw on the Drake back-to-back record. And, you know, everybody was, like, going crazy. And then he threw on the Meek record. And the crowd started booing. No, man. They still doing that? It was booing a little bit. And I was like, and I asked Village, I turned around, I said, yo, they booing.
Starting point is 00:26:55 He said, yeah, they booing them. And I grabbed the mic. I said, I just, you know, I'm a, hold on. It's New York City. We can't do that. You're not going to make no street uncool. All you street is in here that's supposedly representing a certain type of lifestyle. You're not going to allow somebody to make you feel like what he represents is uncool.
Starting point is 00:27:22 Meek is the only urban artist right now on that level that represent the street. We can't allow people to make us feel like that's not cool. You make a good point, but what about the street making himself look uncool with the Twitter rant? That's a battle. Cool. And he's a man.
Starting point is 00:27:41 And if he lost the battle or whatever, cool. That's a battle. You grow. But you're not going to tell me his music is not good. You was just partying to his music two weeks ago. Now all of a sudden you're blowing it down. No, we can't allow that to happen. Because what he represents, it affects me.
Starting point is 00:28:11 You understand? I feel like what he represents, we need that in hip-hop. If you look at the charts, he's the only artist that sold that amount of records. And still, he talking about crack. He talking about streets. You crazy? We need that. But as a rap fan, you got to be disappointed. As a rap fan, crack, he talking about streets. He's a new street artist, yeah. You crazy? We need that. But as a rap fan, you gotta be disappointed.
Starting point is 00:28:26 As a rap fan, though, it's a battle. And I'm comfortable saying, okay, Drake's situation was well thought out. He put it together and he did his thing. Cool, I like both of them. Me too. What were some steps that you think that Meek took that he should have executed better?
Starting point is 00:28:43 I just think it maybe should have been a little bit more thought out. And I think sometimes we underestimate our enemies because sometimes a lot is going on. You see, it's an art to that. You know, opposition, thinking steps ahead. You feel me? I try to always be a step. You know, if I do this, then what he'll do. You understand?
Starting point is 00:29:08 So that's all. But I think that, come on, he's a young artist. He could grow from that. We get wounded in the field. We pick ourselves up and we keep going. We don't stop with good music just because of a battle. They say Hov lost to Nas. That's debatable, though. It is debatable. we don't stop with good music just because of a battle they said Hov lost to Nas
Starting point is 00:29:26 that's debatable though it is debatable no listen very debatable listen to what I said they said Hov lost to Nas that's debatable
Starting point is 00:29:34 cool so for the people that felt like Hov lost I don't think that they stopped dealing with Hov music true all I'm saying is I don't I don't like
Starting point is 00:29:46 I don't like what that represents and I just felt like New York City we ain't gonna about the we about to do that not on my watch I also think it's just temporary because it just happened and people will forget it I think people wanted me to put a fight right cool all that what you saying is cool but he's on tour right now Nikki they still cheering for him crazy that's what I'm saying whatever I think it's just temporary. I couldn't be in a club and seeing dudes I know is in the street. And this is the only street artist rapping about street shit that I know you relate to.
Starting point is 00:30:16 I know you relate to it. I know you relate. You relate to this more than anything else. Because you in there. You can't do that you can't take that down it's it what we got I mean that's selling and moving selling the movie you know he's the herb he's the face of urban music the street just not just you know you got Big Sean's you got you got you got J Cole's but they
Starting point is 00:30:43 represent something different and they and J. Cole's, but they represent something different. And it's all good music, but they represent something different. I'm not saying if he lost, all right, cool, whatever, but you can't tear that down. Hell no. I think that they might be born because they feel like you let the streets down. It's like if we saw you doing something crazy, we'd be like, come on, man. I know. I know.
Starting point is 00:31:00 I get it. I get it. I get it. I get it. Sometimes you got to take that L and, you know, move on from it. But that's what an L is. We supposed to learn from it. I took plenty of L's in my life.
Starting point is 00:31:09 Right. You know, we all make decisions sometimes that we say, damn, I shouldn't have done that. You see what I'm saying? You know, Charlamagne, he waking up in hotels with strange women all the time. He like, damn, I shouldn't have done that. Not anymore. I'm married now. I'm out the game.
Starting point is 00:31:24 Out the game But I know for a fact Mano has definitely Woken up You gotta chill man You gotta chill I know Mano has Definitely said
Starting point is 00:31:35 Man I shouldn't Have done that Yeah plenty of times I'm gonna try again To make sure I shouldn't Have done this You live and you learn At the end of the day
Starting point is 00:31:42 Listen At the end of the day It's hip hop. Let's keep it, let's keep it hip hop. I mean, you know, the fans is upset.
Starting point is 00:31:48 Let's keep it hip hop. It's cool. It's all right. You know, we all, they all winners. We all winners. I see on your,
Starting point is 00:31:55 on your, on K.O.B.3, you got like a lot of new people on there. Of course. Of course, that's what it's about. I know a lot of records. D.O. Smirano. There you go.
Starting point is 00:32:02 Yeah, shout out to Tweezy. You know, um, that's what it's about though like making way for that new wave you see what i'm saying like i i was fortunate to work with a lot of artists big artists whoever and these young boys they coming up right now they they got that sound and they got that wave but that's how you stay new that's how you stay you keep it alive like you know i've i've been around for a few years now so it's like they got that wave, but that's how you stay new. That's how you stay, you keep it alive. Like, you know, I've been around for a few years now. So it's like, they got that new wave
Starting point is 00:32:31 and it's like, okay, cool, I like that. Come on, bring it on. Look, Dr. Dre was with NWA, then he went and found Snoop and like kind of caught him another wave and Eminem caught him another wave. You see what I'm saying? That's the new energy, it's the same thing.
Starting point is 00:32:44 What I like about you, man, you came out with All with all the above it was a big record but you never went and chased that again you know I'm gonna go do another all above yeah listen it's just about you want another one yeah it's about it's about positioning I wasn't able to because I wasn't able to have it at this time because that comes with being with a major corporation that's going to spend a lot of money
Starting point is 00:33:10 because believe me I got a couple of those but if if we you can't waste them though and if you can't just throw them away
Starting point is 00:33:18 if you not if you don't have a a big situation then it's like what else could I do but so it's just like boxing. It's like every punch is not going to be a knockout.
Starting point is 00:33:28 You head hunting, and you might lose the fight. So what you do, you got to sometimes say, you know what? Hold on. Let me go to the body. So I'm going to the body on these niggas. You know what I'm saying? I had to break it back down, go to the body. That's what KOB3 is.
Starting point is 00:33:39 That's what these street records and going straight to the core. That's what it is. And look what's happening. There's something that's happening. For me, that ain't been happening in a long time. This shit is moving organically. You understand? And it feels good, man. I feel good.
Starting point is 00:33:54 You feel good. Maynard. Maynard. Maynard, you feeling any backlash with these chicks? Like, you know. Here you go. What? What backlash now?
Starting point is 00:34:03 What I do now? You know, it might be a situation like, say you like somebody, but you don't smash their friend or other people that they know. Right, but here's the thing. And that causes some backlash. Yeah, yeah, but check this out. Don't go there with you. No, no, no, I'm going to go there. I'm going to go there.
Starting point is 00:34:18 I'm going to put myself in a hole. Get myself jammed up. You know what I mean? My phone going to be clicking. Check this out. A lot of times, these people paint wrong, different pictures. You see what I'm saying? You sell dreams, man.
Starting point is 00:34:31 No, I don't sell dreams. I sell the truth. And that's why they like me. Because I'm real. So you don't tell these girls, like, oh, you know, we're going to be together. I love you. We're going to do this. You might feel that way at that moment.
Starting point is 00:34:44 I only feel that way at that moment. I only feel that way at club. I only feel that way at the club. All right? All right. So you do feel that way temporarily. Let me tell you something, man. Yo, I've been so out of my mind at times that I remember. Do you believe in love at first sight?
Starting point is 00:35:08 You said that? No, because I'm feeling something I've never felt before. Mano, come on, man. Stop it. I thought you were out here talking to these girls. I thought you out here. You drink on the low. That's his love life.
Starting point is 00:35:20 Mano, that's his love life. I'm drinking. I'm drinking. Yo, listen. man that's like his love life I'm Drake I'm Drake yo listen sometimes people I'm selling the truth though cause outside of that that's because that comes with
Starting point is 00:35:34 heavy intoxication right so you the king you the king of bullshit no only heavy intoxication when it's heavy intoxication should I flip K.O.B. on you man
Starting point is 00:35:43 god damn it's alright though It's not gonna happen though I ain't scared Listen Heavy intoxication Can bring about Certain things man
Starting point is 00:35:52 And you might say something You know what I mean And it's okay Right But outside of that Sober talking No I'm not selling you So when you're sober
Starting point is 00:36:01 And the girl says You know last night In the club You said love at first sight And it was this, this and that. You say, well,
Starting point is 00:36:06 I was drunk. Or do you just? I don't, it never really comes back up though because it's like, because I think it sounds so ridiculous though. You fell for that.
Starting point is 00:36:14 That's kind of on you. Right. It never really comes back up. And that hasn't happened a lot but it hasn't. But what I'm saying is back to your question is like sometimes people,
Starting point is 00:36:23 they think more of themselves than you think of them. So I'm saying, it's back to your question. It's like sometimes people, they think more of themselves than you think of them. So I'm saying, if I never kissed you before, I ain't never done things. And I only been around you three, four times in the whole five years we known each other. What that tell you? Like, you bugging. We were not together. Yeah, and then you hating on other situations because you really you really whatever you feel i don't know nothing about because you know it ain't the same way because we ain't never was like that right you just told on yourself now you have girls
Starting point is 00:36:55 wanting to kiss now in public kiss me man oh you said you don't kiss me no no and take a picture no but i'm just saying you should know if I ain't never kissed you, you should know, like, how much like do I have for you if we ain't never even kissed? Right. Not one time. What about, would you go down on a girl if you never kissed her? This is what I'm saying. If I never did either of the two.
Starting point is 00:37:19 What are you talking about? No, no, no, no. We here. We here. If I never done either of the two then how how do i how much like do i have for you so you can't be out here misrepresenting the situation acting like oh yeah me and him was like that and we was going i never did none of these things with you none of no dating no hanging out no none of these things. Okay. Just wanted to clear that up.
Starting point is 00:37:45 Yeah, just wanted to clear that up. KOB3 is out right now. KOB3 is out right now. Harder Than Them is out right now. Banging, PNP, all that. I mean, listen, man. The real one's going to come back for me. Absolutely.
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