The Breakfast Club - Malcolm Gladwell Interview and more

Episode Date: August 4, 2021

Today on the show they had friend to the room author Michael Gladwell who spoke about HBCUs And College Ranking System Flaws, "Revisionist History" Podcast and more. Also, Charlamagne gave "Donkey of the Day" to a privileged 22 year old Max Berry for throwing a temper tantrum on plane while saying his family has more money than the rest of people on the plane. Also, Angela helped some listeners out during "Ask Yee" Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Hey guys, I'm Kate Max. You might know me from my popular online series, The Running Interview Show, where I run with celebrities, athletes, entrepreneurs, and more. After those runs, the conversations keep going. That's what my podcast, Post Run High, is all about. It's a chance to sit down with my guests and dive even deeper into their stories, their journeys, and the thoughts that arise once we've hit the pavement together. Listen to Post Run High on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. own? I planted the flag. This is mine. I own this. It's surprisingly easy. 55 gallons of water,

500 pounds of concrete. Or maybe not. No country willingly gives up their territory. Oh my God. What is that? Bullets. Listen to Escape from Zaka Stan. That's Escape from Z-A-Q-A-S-T-A-N on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. As a kid, I really do remember having these dreams and visions, but you just don't know what is going to come for you. Alicia shares her wisdom on growth, gratitude, and the power of love. I forgive myself. It's okay. Have grace with yourself. You're trying your best, and you're going to figure out the rhythm of this thing.

Alicia Keys, like you've never heard her before. Listen to On Purpose with Jay Shetty on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Okay, okay, okay. and Charlamagne Tha God. Wake that ass up. The Breakfast Club is on. Right here. I have to live live. I'm talking to the Breakfast Club this morning. Okay, okay, okay.

I love coming here. I'm never not going to come here. You guys are good to me. I'm a tiny mom. I'm always going to be good to y'all. For a lot of people in the hip-hop generation, the Breakfast Club is where people get their information on the topics, on the artists, and everything like that.

In that aspect, radio is still important. The Breakfast Club. With my name, come on, respect it. Good morning, USA! Charlamagne Tha God. Peace to the planet. Guess what day it is. Guess what day it is. Hump Day. Yes. It's Wednesday, Hump Day. I'm in here, eyes burning.

Who stayed up late watching Versus? Probably Red because, you know, the Lox and the Dipset have no respect for their 40-plus-year-old fans. Not at all. Which is 90% of us. All right, so you still think Dipset won? No. No, Dipset did not win. Because you kept saying they was going to win. Well, I thought Dipset was going to ring off more, but they did not.

And you know what I realized last night about Versus? Now that Versus is outside, it's all about the live performance because Dipset just simply got outperformed last night. The Locks were better showmen, especially Jadakiss. Drop on the Clues box for Jadakiss. Lord have mercy. That was one of the greatest performances in Madison Square Garden ever.

Willis Reed when he limped out. Jordan when he dropped 55 into 45. No, forget Ewan. Frazier when he beat Ali. Okay. Reggie Miller when he scored... No, no, no. Reggie Miller when he scored 9 points in 8 seconds. We're talking about the top performances in MSG ever. That's what Jadakiss ranks.

Yes, he definitely killed it. And I'm not going to lie. I thought Dibs had it until I was in Atlanta about a week ago when I ran into Styles P's cousin. His name is Bart. You know Bart used to manage Bow Wow? Yeah, that's Styles P's cousin. I didn't know that.

So he came and he sat at my table. He was like, we were talking about it. He said, look, you don't understand. He said, the locks have been practicing for the last three weeks. They're taking this serious. They're not playing. They're acting like this is their last show ever. He was like, they're going to win.

And I told you, I said, look, I feel like they're going to be more organized than Dipset. Well, it's about preparation. And I said that from the beginning. I was like, they've been getting together. If you know the Lox, you know how serious they are about their shows, their performances, and that's exactly what happened. And they're lyricists. They get busy. Like, they get busy, busy.

Yeah, but you can be a dope lyricist and not have a great stage show. The Lox have a great stage show. And their DJ, DJ technician, DJ technician, and Jadakiss was running the pick and roll all night last night. All night long. Shout out to Jadakiss. That was like, they both got 20 songs. They could go up against each other. It's going to be all about how you play it. It wasn't even roll all night last night. All night long. Shout out to Jadakiss. That was like, they both got 20 songs. They could go up against each other.

It's going to be all about how you play it. It wasn't even about the music last night. How you prepare. Yeah, it wasn't even about the music. Nope. It was literally just about the live performance. And if that's what Versus is going to be going forward, because since everybody's outside,

people are going to have to have their live show game up. Goodness gracious. They killed that last night, man. They did such a great job. Shout out to Dipset and shout out to the Lox. I mean, what y'all killed that last night, man. They did such a great job. Shout to Dipset and shout to the Lox. I mean, what y'all pulled off last night was amazing. There was a couple of times where it got a little scary. Didn't make me miss outside.

Nah, didn't make me miss outside. Going to performances like that, I see the old Styles P coming back out and I got nervous for a little bit. Thank goodness he's a vegan. Thank goodness they're vegan. He almost had meat last night. Goodness gracious. 752 people on stage for no reason.

Looking like Lollapalooza. Everybody got time for that. But it was great. It was a great. But we're going to recap all of that during Rumor Report. No, that was a great versus. Absolutely. It was a very intense versus as well.

Great way to set off a tour, right? Yeah. Good luck with that tour. Goodness gracious. It's going to be a good one. Well, the Lox got their stage show ready That's a fact Alright, well, we have an author joining us this morning Malcolm Gladwell, he's been on the show numerous times

He's back up here this morning Malcolm Gladwell is more than an author Malcolm Gladwell is just a thought leader There you go, perfect way to say it Offer such great books as Outliers and Talking to Strangers and The Tipping Point and Blink What the Dogs

Are, David and Goliath. I think I've read pretty much everything. And he has his own podcast network. His own podcast network, yes. He's got his own very successful podcast, Revisionist History. It's on like season six. Okay. So he'll be here to discuss the new season of Revisionist History, amongst other things. Alright.

Well, let's get the show cracking. Front page news, what are we talking about? Well, since we're talking about last night, let's discuss New York City, what the requirements will be to go to restaurants, indoor entertainment venues, and gyms. And clearly it hasn't kicked in yet. All right. We'll get into that next. It's the Breakfast Club.

Good morning. Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy, Angela Yee, Charlamagne Tha God. We are the Breakfast Club. Let's get into some front page news. Now, the U.S. women's basketball team defeated Australia 79-55. The U.S. women's team will play Serbia in the semifinals on Friday. Congratulations to the women's team.

Yes. To Asia Wilson, the 803 all day, playing on the women's team. DeMar DeRozan signed with the Bulls. Carmelo Anthony signed with the Lakers. And Andre Drummond signed with the Bulls. Carmelo Anthony signed with the Lakers. And Andre Drummond signed with the 76ers. Yeah, DeMar DeRozan said F the Knicks, huh? Yeah. Two days ago, they said he was close to signing to the Knicks.

I don't know how true that was. Yeah, they also said Melo might be coming back to the Knicks too, but he went to the Lakers as well. All right. What's he talking about? Melo was at Versus last night're talking about... Mello was at versus last night, too. Yeah, Mello was at versus

with Pecos. They called me before they went. You know, and I'm sorry, New Yorkers, but if Mello gets a ring, it's going to feel like the Knicks got a ring to me. I want Mello to get a ring.

Yes, it is. I want Mello to get a ring. Stop saying things just to say things. No, I'm serious. Why would him getting a ring with the Lakers have to do with the Knicks?

Because I want Mello. Mello is such a New Yorker to me and New York did Mello so dirty, I want Mello to get a ring. You know hower to me. And New York did Mello so dirty. I want Mello to get away. You know how many people from New York got rings that play in the NBA? Okay, knock it off. New York did Mello dirty, and he deserves it. Since we're talking about New York City,

they are going to require proof of vaccination to get into restaurants, fitness centers, and indoor entertainment venues. They announced this yesterday. The city will start enforcing this program on September 13th. So, according to the mayor, about 55% of residents are fully vaccinated, and that doesn't seem very high, but it's higher than the total vaccination rate in the U.S., which is at about 50%. Here is de Blasio.

The key to NYC Pass will be a first in the nation approach. It will require vaccination for workers and customers in indoor dining, in indoor fitness facilities, indoor entertainment facilities. This is going to be a requirement. The only way to patronize these establishments indoors will be if you're vaccinated, at least one dose. Time for people to see vaccination as literally necessary to living a good and full and healthy life how long is that gonna last well it starts september 13th and broadway theaters have announced that they'll require vaccinations for the audience and for the staff at least through the month of october i wonder if

businesses will start pushing back against that if it starts impacting their business like if it's just not enough vaccinated people to sustain good business, what if they'll push back? I don't think, I mean, I don't think even if they do, I don't think it matters. I mean, I think they're going to require it, and it is what it is at this point. And does having at least one shot matter because I got a homie who got one shot

and they're going through it right now with COVID. I mean, this is what they're saying. The requirements are it does protect you some way, but vaccinations again, even if you're fully vaccinated, it doesn't fully protect you. Yeah, this is what they're saying. The requirements are it does protect you some way. But vaccinations, again, even if you're fully vaccinated, it doesn't fully protect you. Yeah, this person is sick, sick. All right. The CDC has also announced that they are going to have a limited targeted eviction moratorium until early October, till October 3rd.

So this new moratorium comes and it's going to apply to areas of the country with high or substantial transmission of COVID. According to the announcement, this will cover 80 percent of U.S. counties and 90 percent of the U.S. population. And so Biden's aides have been saying that he lacks the legal authority to renew the existing moratorium because of a Supreme Court opinion by Justice Brett Kavanaugh. That said another extension would require congressional approval. So this is different right now. And so now they're saying this is from the CDC. So it's targeted eviction moratoriums until early October. That's if you have a high or substantial transmission of COVID in that area.

But people need that right now. It's a health crisis and a housing crisis simultaneously. And that is your front page news. All right. Get it off your chest. And that is your Front Page News. All right. Get it off your chest. 800-585-1051. If you need to vent, phone lines are wide open. 800-585-1051.

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Consider this. Start your own country. I planted the flag. I just kind of looked out of like, this is mine. I own this. It's surprisingly easy. There are 55 gallons of water for 500 pounds of concrete. Everybody's doing it. I am King Ernest Emmanuel. I am the Queen of Ladonia. I'm Jackson I, King of Capraburg.

I am the Supreme Leader of the Grand Republic of Mentonia. Be part of a great colonial tradition. The Waikana tribe own country. My forefathers did that themselves. What could go wrong? No country willingly gives up their territory. I was making a rocket with a black powder, you know, with explosive warheads. Oh my God.

What is that? Bullets. Bullet holes, yeah. We need help! We still have the off-road portion to go. Listen to Escape from Zakistan. And we're losing daylight fast. That's Escape from Z-A-Q-istan on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

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So if you love hearing real, inspiring stories from the people you know, follow, and admire, join me every week for Post Run High. It's where we take the conversation beyond the run and get into the heart of it all. It's lighthearted, pretty crazy, and very fun. Listen to Post Run High on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. As a kid, I really do remember having these dreams and visions, but you just don't know what is

going to come for you. Alicia Keys opens up about conquering doubt, learning to trust herself, and leaning into her dreams. I think a lot of times we are built to doubt the possibilities for ourselves. For self-preservation and protection. It was literally that step by step. And so I discovered that that is how we get where we're going. This increment of small, determined moments. Alicia shares her wisdom on growth, gratitude, and the power of love. I forgive myself. It's okay.

Like grace. Have grace with yourself. You're trying your best. And you're going to figure out the rhythm of love. I forgive myself. It's okay. Like grace. Have grace with yourself. You're trying your best. And you're going to figure out the rhythm of this thing. Alicia Keys, like you've never heard her before. Listen to On Purpose with Jay Shetty on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

Wake up, wake up. Wake your ass up. This is your time to get it off your chest. Change, change, change. Whether you're mad or blessed, we want to hear from you on The Breakfast Club. Hello, who's this? Morning. Morning, morning. Get it off your chest, bro.

Morning, morning. Peace, King. Rick, what's happening, Rick? Oh, man, I'm recovering from last night, bro. My voice is shot from rapping all the verses. And from all that tension, from all being on stage, I thought there was no happy last night, bro. My voice is shocked from rapping all the verses and from all that tension from all being on stage. I thought that was gonna happen last night. I thought so, too.

Yeah, they don't care nothing about their 40-plus-year-old fans. Like, we're not a majority of their fan base. Were you there or were you at home watching? I was at home watching, but I felt like I was there because I had anxiety the whole night watching it. Yeah, I put my mask on as I was watching it. You stupid. Yeah, I'm telling you, as I was watching it. You're stupid. I'm telling you, yo. My wife was telling me to shut up.

But I had a good time at that. Hip Hop won last night. It did. That was different. Yeah, Jada Kim stamped his name in the book of Hall of Fame for rapper. I mean, he was already there, but he put his name on the upper echelon last night yeah jay i mean that was krs one level mcn from jada kiss last night on that stage killed it he did such a good job man how does he remember all those rhymes i don't know i always say that

with artists like hove too like how do you remember that catalog of of continuous albums mixtapes and all that but that's what they do thank you for calling in brother hello who's this what's going on man this is jordan from tall middle carolina what's up bro get it off your chest yeah man let's talk about the uh the verses from last night man yes sir yeah uh man it was just like they just you could just tell that the Locks was actually a group, and they'd been together doing this for a long time because they was just together, and it was like, you know, I'm a big Dipset fan, and if they was just more organized,

and, you know, it would have been a lot better, and then Zeke, Freaky Zeke was all over the stage. Freaky. I'm like, yo, it's going crazy out here. They need to relax. They just needed to prepare a good stage show. That's all. If they didn't prepare the stage show, it would have been better.

That's all. The Locks had an amazing stage show. You think that they was mad for real at any point? Yes. Nah, man. Nah, they cool, man. They in their 40s, man. Nah, I think there was a couple, man. Them boys, they in their 40s, man. They ain't got time to be fighting, man.

Nah, I think there was a couple of times we got a little awkward. One time when Styles P was rapping and Cam tried to kick him. He's about to throw his shoe off. That one got a little funny, too. Jada ripped Jules' bandana off. Jules threw it to the floor. I was like, it might get a little crazy. But that's the locks that I remember.

I was waiting for an SMD. It felt like an SMD was coming at any moment. It was this one moment with Jada and I think Cam was going back and forth. I was like, yo, an SMD coming, bro. You told them to shut the F up? Yeah, they said shut the F up. But at the end, they said, you know, we promised

that we wouldn't invite anybody to our body parts. They did say that at the end. The fact that you have to put that out there too. And I like, you know what else I like? I like the fact that they were editing themselves. Because, you know, a couple of choice words flew that wouldn't fly in 2021 at first. That is correct.

But then they edited themselves later. Yes. All right. Get it off your chest. 800-585-1051. If you need to vent, hit us up now. It's The Breakfast Club. Good morning.

The Breakfast Club. This is your time to get it off your chest, whether you're mad or blessed. You better have the same energy. We want to hear from you on The Breakfast Club. Hello, who's this? Yo, what up, Breakfast Club? What up? This is your Honda Civic.

Honda Civic. Yo, what's poppin', man? Let's talk about that car show you got going on. Okay. You got a Honda Civic? Yo, what up, Breakfast Club? What up? This is your Honda Civic. Honda Civic. Yo, what's poppin', man? Let's talk about that car show you got going on. Okay. You got a Honda Civic? Yeah, of course. Don't you got the Honda Civics at the show? Yeah, I got some hot Civics.

What's on your Civic? What's your Civic look like, bro? Well, check this out, man. If you play the song about a Honda Civic, I'm sure you'll change your mind about including all the Honda Civics in the car show. No, I invite Honda Civics in the car show if they hot. I don't care about the song. What'd the car look like, though?

You ever heard the song? Yep. You're a liar. Why would you lie to him like that, Envy? Honda, Honda Civic in the car show. I don't care about the song. What'd the car look like, though? You ever heard the song? Yep. You're a liar. Why would you lie to him like that? Honda, Honda Civic. Honda, Honda Civic. Vroom. Honda, Honda Civic.

This the setup, Charlamagne. You know this the setup to be like, I'm going to let me play it right now. Come on, Charlamagne. Honda Civic, I hope that you take it. If you Google it right now, it'll come up. Honda Civic, I hope you're taking care of yourself because, you know, with a nickname like Honda Civic,

you got to live a long time, okay? Nah, little Honda Civic, bro. I don't care if it's little or Honda Civic, you got to live a long time. Okay? No, little Honda Civic, bro. I don't care if it's little or big. You still got to live a long time. Okay? Honda Civics usually get about 300,000 miles on them. It can last more than 20 years. Okay?

If you maintain it well. I guess he had nothing else to say. But, yes, the car show is August 14th. It's in 10 days. And if you have a Honda Civic and it's hooked up, we want your Honda Civic, too. Hello, who's this? What up? This is Justin Queens.

Queens, what up? Get it off your chest. Yo, I am super tight. I thought the Dipset versus the Locked Battle last night. What happened? You didn't enjoy it?

You didn't enjoy it? The Locked... You thought Dipset was going to show up more, right? Son, I feel like it's the Mandela Effect. Can I say you Son, I feel like it's the Mandela Effect. Can I say you with that? Nah, what's the Mandela Effect?

The Mandela Effect is like a false memory. In my memory, I felt like Dipset had way more hits until Jadakiss destroyed that. I'm so hurt right now. Nah, you're not wrong about that. They do, but I mean, the Locks got a bunch of culture on Anthems and they just had a better stage show last night. They sure did. Nah, the Locks did, that. They do, but I mean, the Locks got a bunch of culture on anthems and they just had a better stage show last night. They sure did.

Nah, the Locks cheated, bro. The Locks cheated. Jada Kingston stopped Bob Decker alive over everything. They cheated, bro. That is a fact. That's no question. They didn't cheat now. That's a fact.

They understood the assignment. Yeah, that's all. They did. That's all. When you saw Jada come out there with his Timbs and his camouflage shorts on, you already knew what it was. Absolutely. But they— They was ready to fight. Got a knife somewhere nearby. You saw Jada come out there with his Timbs and his camouflage shorts on. You already knew what it was. Absolutely. And when...

And it's just little things. Like when Styles P yelled out, I ain't losing to nobody wearing leather pants. Like they just... Just little things like that they kind of just set the stage for. That's all. All right, man. Have a good one, brother.

Get it off your chest. 800-585-1051. If you need to vent, Breakfast Club, appreciate that. All right, man. Have a good one, brother. Get it off your chest. 800-585-1051. If you need to vent, you can hit us up. Now, we got rumors on the way. Man, we might as well get right into Versus. We do have some of the highlights from last night's show in case you didn't have a chance to see it or you want to reminisce and talk about it with us. All right.

We'll get into that next. It's The Breakfast Club. Good morning. The Breakfast Club. Is your country falling apart? Feeling tired, depressed, a little bit revolutionary? Consider this. Start your own country.

I planted the flag. I just kind of looked out of like, this is mine. I own this. It's surprisingly easy. There are 55 gallons of water, 500 pounds of concrete. Everybody's doing it. I am King Ernest Emmanuel. I am the Queen of Laudonia.

I'm Jackson I, King of Capraburg. I am the Supreme Leader of the Grand Republic of Mentonia. Be part of a great colonial tradition. The Waikana tribe owned country. My forefathers did that themselves. What could go wrong? No country willingly gives up their territory. I was making a rocket with a black powder, you know, with explosive warhead.

Oh my God. What is that? Bullets. Bullets. We need help! We need help! We still have the off-road portion to go. Listen to Escape from Zakistan.

And we're losing daylight fast. That's Escape from Z-A-Q-istan on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey guys, I'm Kate Max. You might know me from my popular online series, The Running Interview Show, where I run with celebrities, athletes, entrepreneurs, and more. After those runs, the conversations keep going. That's what my podcast, Post High is all about. It's a chance to sit down with my guests and dive even deeper into their stories, their journeys, and the thoughts that arise once we've hit the pavement together. You know that rush of endorphins you feel after a great workout? Well, that's when the real magic happens. So if you love hearing real, inspiring stories from the people you know, follow, and admire, join me every week for Post Run High.

It's where we take the conversation beyond the run and get into the heart of it all. It's lighthearted, pretty crazy, and very fun. Listen to Post Run High on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. As a kid, I really do remember having these dreams and visions, but you just don't know what is going to come for you. Alicia Keys opens up about conquering doubt, learning to trust herself, and leaning into her dreams. I think a lot of times we are built to doubt the possibilities for ourselves. For self-preservation and protection, it was literally that step by step. And so I discovered that that is how we get where we're going.

This increment of small, determined moments. Alicia shares her wisdom on growth, gratitude, and the power of love. I forgive myself. It's okay. Like grace. Have grace with yourself. You're trying your best. And you're gonna figure out the rhythm of this thing.

Alicia Keys, like you've never heard her before. Listen to On Purpose with Jay Shetty on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. This is the Rumor Report with Angela Yee. On Breakfast Close. Well, versus was last night. It was the locks versus Dipset.

And, you know, there were some people who were so sure that Dipset. And, you know, there were some people who were so sure that Dipset was gonna win. But, you know, last night, we have to say it, the locks really delivered. And I saw a lot of people online that were like, yeah, Dipset got this, whatever. But...

That's not a bad pick, though. I mean, it's Dipset. Yeah, nobody's saying it's a bad pick. I'm just telling you what happened in actuality. And last night, the locks really came through and shined. And a lot of people were giving credit to Jadakiss as well for really just making sure everything was on point, for stage presence and all of that, right? But they all were very entertaining.

So early on in the battle, we saw that Jadakiss had some issues and called out Cameron for basically rhyming over the tracks. We in New York, right? Why these niggas keep rhyming over the words? Y'all could've stayed in the car and listened to Apple Music. Yo, we know the SOP.

Can I talk? Let me talk. Let me talk. Yo, why y'all doing what? We didn't talk on your part. Shut the f*** up. You're on our time. talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk Something happened. New York! I thought the SMD was going to fly around that time.

I didn't think they was going to make it to 10 songs. Even in the very beginning of this battle, it was a whole thing back and forth of who was going to go first. Right? Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. They was just like, set it off then. Set it off then. Because he was like, this is New York.

We're from Harlem. This is our home. This is our home. We're visiting. Yeah, that was from there. Listen, Versus is different now that folks outside. You got to have your show game right. And the Locks showed a lot of artists, you know, young artists, old artists,

how important having a great stage show is. Absolutely. You can have all the bangers like Dipset has and still come up short because you don't have a great live stage show. All right. Now, Cameron had an issue with the Locks doing all about the Benjamins. Yo, Tech, not only do we got hits. That's my shit.

That's something that we rock. What y'all going? That's my we got hits, that's my s***. That's my s***. That's my s***. That's my s***. That's my s***. That's my s***. That's my s***. That's my s***. That's my s***.

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That's my s***. That's my s***. That's my s***. Sit down, no n**** Sit down, no n**** It was so disrespectful, but it was all love, you know, for a moment. There were some tense moments, but it definitely was all love. Now, there was also a point where every time they came back to the stage, there was more and more people on that stage. Like I said, it was looking like Lollapalooza in the garden at the Hulu Theater,

and they had to clear the stage. And that was for both crews. The stage is about to collapse. Yo, killer. Everybody on the stage is going to start getting off the stage. Yo, killer. Don't just back up. Move back up.

Y'all got to get off the stage. Everybody, both sides. Both sides. Both sides. Get off the stage. Yeah, our side, they side. Both sides. Get off.

The ones who think that it's not me, get off the stage too. I wasn't shocked that it was mad people on the stage just because that's New York and that's hip-hop, right? But I would be shocked that it took them so long to get off. Because everybody wanted to leave. Why wouldn't y'all get off the stage? Everybody wanted to be on stage. Because everybody's somebody's people. Now, that's my brother.

That's my fam. But, you know, get the F off the show. You haven't seen Fat Joe's not on stage. That's what I'm saying. Go enjoy yourself. Peckers, my thing is, it's like it's not about y'all. It's about the show.

Absolutely. Get off the stage. All right. Now, after that, there was a point where Cameron, things didn't go so well at this point during the versus. Since we ain't got no bars, right?

Let's go. If a nigga got a problem with me, you know my slogan. Go get your gun. Cops on my car, 10 minutes, I'm in a different one. Yeah, that's how I'm living, son.

And check it, I'm not dissing, son. Yeah, they can't do that. I'm not dissing, son. Styles was talking crazy. Yes, thank you. You got a problem with me, you know my slogan.

Go get your gun. You know it. Yeah, exactly. You got a problem with me, you my slogan Go get that gun You know it Yeah, exactly You got a problem with me You know my slogan Go get that gun Oh, s*** Oh, s***

That's not the boo you get when you whack, though because Dipset's not whack Cam's not whack That's just that light boo It wasn't right at that moment That's the light boo you get when your fans

are just disappointed That's all It just seemed like he wasn't prepared at that moment He wasn't right at that moment. That's the light boo you get when your fans are just disappointed. That's all. It's just like he wasn't prepared at that moment. He wasn't prepared. Jadakiss was getting him out of his own. Y'all ain't got no balls, so he wanted to show I got balls. And they had jokes, too, because those jokes was hurting, too.

The way they was talking to each other, I know you know how to get under somebody's skin. Let's not get it twisted. Cam'ron can spit. Cam'ron has balls. Cam'ron can spit. Yeah. Cam'ron has balls. Cam'ron can spit. 100%. All right, but let's be clear. It's very obvious that the Lox did a lot to prepare for this.

You could tell. And they are friends with each other. They are going on tour together. So while it might seem like there was some tense moments, they always come back to the fact that this was a peaceful battle. Yeah, I saw something last night. They announced the eight cities last night, right? Yeah, eight cities. Here's how it ended.

We said we was going to talk about each other. It was going to be no invite to the front stand. No face strikes, but we said we're going to make this a show for y'all. First, everybody in this mother... If you got here safe tonight, you're going to leave the same way. Nobody going to jail tonight in New York City.

No shooting, no stabbing, no none of that shit. Everybody in the building, throw peace signs in the air, please. Peace signs up, everybody. Peace signs up. Now close your peace signs because we are all one, white, black, Latin, whatever the fuck you are. We all one. And on the count of three, we're going to say peace in this motherfucker.

One, two, three, peace. Listen, salute to the locks and dips set, man. But you got to drop on the clues bonds with Jadakiss. Jadakiss had an NBA finals MVP performance. He sure did. He was carrying it like KD without Kyrie and Harden in the first half. His energy and will set the tone for the whole night. I've never seen a rapper in the zone.

I've seen athletes in the zone, but never a rapper. That was KRS-One levels of crowd control Jada was displaying last night. Jada did an immaculate job. He did his damn thing. He took to social media. He said, New York City, we did it. Shout out to Dipset. It was a great night for hip hop.

Jewel said, great night, New York City, for the win. But you definitely got that MVP, my boy. Love you, bro. Styles P said, love is love. Hell of a night for the city, for the youth who didn't know about us. Now you know. For the nonbelievers, now you believe. Back to the regular program of doing cool middle-age-ish

and pushing health out to folk. Ghost and I'm ghosting. Hey, man. Jada put on top five performances in the MSG Garden history last day. Willis Reed limping into game seven in 1970. Jordan dropping 55 while wearing the 45. Frazier beating Ali. Reggie Miller scoring eight points in nine seconds.

Jadakiss last night at Versus. Top five MSG moments. Stop. Those aren't top five MSG moments. You can't even name the moments. You just name the names. I am, because they had so many great moments. No, they didn't.

Down to my New York Knicks. So many great moments in there. He still wants Carmelo to get a ring. Exactly. Carmelo get a ring, the Knicks get a ring. Carmelo coming to the Knicks was a great moment. Yes. And stop.

All right, well, that is your rumor report. Styles dropped 29 points and 11 assists, too. Sheik Looch had 18 rebounds, six blocks, zero points, but his presence on defense. Shut up, man. His presence on defense and the boards was felt. Drop him the close ball for the locks. Okay?

All right. It did feel like staying up last night to watch a West Coast NBA playoff game, though. That's why I'm in here yawning this morning. But it was worth it. All right. When we come back, we got front page news. What are we talking about, Yee? Let's talk about Andrew Cuomo, New York's governor,

and some of the reports that have come out about him from the attorney general as far as harassing multiple women. All right. We'll get into that next. It's The Breakfast Club. Good morning. The Breakfast Club. Your morning. The Breakfast Club. Your mornings will never be the same.

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Some restrictions apply. We just did all that versus and then you're going to do this? What did you want to happen, sir? I just want more excitement there. You just got me all excited now. You're just bringing me down. All right. Pause.

Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy, Angela Yee, Charlamagne Tha God. I don't think you should pause. Tyler, the creator, wouldn't pause. So why should you? You're right. Let's get in some front page news. Now, did you see Tyler, the creator, said that, I don't want to misquote him,

but that he was really turned on by Jadakiss and his confidence and all that? I did see that. All right. Well, the women's basketball team, they defeated Australia 79-55. DeMar DeRozan, he signed with the Bulls. Carmelo Anthony signs with the Lakers. Andre Drummond signed with the 76ers. All right, what else we got, Yeezy?

All right, well, let's talk about New York Governor Andrew Cuomo. Now, the Attorney General's investigation into sexual harassment allegations against him found that he did sexually harass multiple women. They did announce this yesterday. They said he harassed current and former state employees as well as a number of women outside of state governments. The office did release a lengthy report on the investigation. They said he engaged in unwelcome and non-consensual touching and made comments of a

suggestive sexual nature. And it also created a hostile work environment for women. Now, Cuomo has denied these sexual harassment claims. Here's what he said. I want you to know directly from me that I never touched anyone inappropriately or made inappropriate sexual advances. I am 63 years old. I have lived my entire adult life in public view. That is just not who I am. They said that Andrew Cuomo's behavior was not limited to members of his own staff, but extended to other state employees. It was a state trooper on his protective detail, as well as members of the public. And he also violated multiple federal and state laws with his conduct, according to the New York Attorney General Letitia James. There are 11 women with allegations claiming harassment, and they found all 11 women to be credible,

and they said their accounts have been corroborated to varying degrees. Now here is what Cuomo has to say about there were some, all these pictures of him touching people's faces, and here's what he had to say in response to that unwelcome touching. The New York Times published a front-page picture of me touching a woman's face at a wedding and then kissing her on the cheek. I've been making the same gesture in public all my life.

I actually learned it from my mother and from my father. It is meant to convey warmth, nothing more. Indeed, there are hundreds, if not thousands of photos of me using the exact same gesture. I do it with everyone. All right. Now, Joe Biden, our president, also called on Andrew Cuomo to resign following this report that he sexually harassed 11 women. Here's what he told reporters at the White House. So will you now call on him to resign given the investigator said the 11 women were credible? I stand by that statement. Are you now calling on him to resign?

Yes. And if he doesn't resign, do you believe he should be impeached and removed from office? Let's take one thing at a time here. I think he should resign. So what do you do if you're Cuomo? Because, I mean, you know, there's no precedent. Trump had allegations. He didn't step down.

Biden had allegations. He didn't step down. Clinton had allegations. People don't ask him to step aside and not campaign for them. So what's the precedent? What's the standard? If he didn't do it, I wouldn't step down. I mean, Biden was in similar situations, right?

Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Almost identical. What's the standard? Well, I don't know. So here's the thing, right? They did do a whole investigation into it. They did find corroborations for these women's stories. They did say that, you know, after this investigation, that they believe that he did these things that he was accused of.

So they're not just, I guess, at that point, accusations anymore. And the New York State House Speaker Carl Hastie, who's very close with Cuomo, has also announced that they're going to quickly conclude its impeachment inquiry into the governor as well. So, you know, people are saying and Assembly Speaker Hastie also says he can no longer remain in office and he says it's time to impeach him also. I just wonder what's the precedent, what's the standard? I mean, you know, Biden apologized for his behavior and said he would do better moving forward. I think it was a time where Kamala Harris said she believed the allegations against Biden.

So it's just like, what's the standard? So what would you do if you were Cuomo in this situation? Do you step down? Do they have to remove him? Like, what's the precedent? That's all I want to know. Seems like nobody really cares, honestly. You talked about four presidents and nobody said anything. Three or four presidents, Nobody really cared. Right. I just wonder what's the standard. That's all.

All right. Well, in addition to these claims of sexual assault, they're also probing him over his handling of nursing home deaths during the pandemic, alleging that he botched his five point one million dollar covid-19 book deal, among other issues. And so we'll see what happens with that also. All right, well, that is your front page news. All right, thank you, Miss Yee. Think about it. All these allegations, they'll still get book deals. They'll still be able to speak at colleges. They'll still be all that.

Now, they might be able not to perform at festivals, but they'll still get all the rest of their money. What are you talking about right now? This guy is crazy. All right, when we come back, Malcolm Gladwell will be joining us. Thought leader Malcolm Gladwell. He'll be here to talk about his podcast, Revisionist History. I think they're on like season six right now.

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Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy, Angela Yee, Charlamagne Tha Guy. We are The Breakfast Club. We got a special guest in the building, Malcolm Gladwell, ladies and gentlemen. Welcome back. Thank you. Thank you. How are you, sir?

I'm doing very well. How'd you make it through the pandemic, man? I was fine. I was upstate. Enjoyed myself. It was pretty mild up there. There weren't a lot of cases, so got a lot of work done. Did a lot of running, you know.

So you jumped in the podcast world. Been doing that. Been doing that. We had a big season this... Have you guys been following our remake of The Little Mermaid? No, I didn't listen to that one. Go ahead. I was caught up in the historically black colleges.

Oh, yes. I planned to listen to The Little Mermaid, and I saw it was in three parts. I'm like, damn, you went that deep on The Little Mermaid? I did. We spent more time on The Little Mermaid than the actual length of the movie. So the movie's 90 minutes. We did like two hours.

Oh, so did you listen to my HBCU, my Dillard stuff? I did, I did. The hypocrisy of the college ranking systems. That was a fascinating listen. And it was just another example of the caste system in America to me. I always wonder how they did those rankings, too. I went to Wesleyan University, right? Oh, fancy.

Yeah, that's a small liberal arts college. And I actually taught a class at Dillard University one time, too. So it's interesting you talk about, like, the amount of money that these universities have in the bank is a large part of the reason why they do get a higher ranking. I mean, it's absolutely the case. It's like this is a system. The U.S. News College rankings is a system

devised to let the rich get richer. It is, if you, the biggest, the most important part of their ranking system is what's called a reputation score. And the reputation score is simply a score that's a grade that's given by other college presidents.

So like, first of all, how many, I was interested in the story of Dillard, the little HBCU in New Orleans. I didn't know it was considered an Ivy League school. I'd learned that listening to the podcast. HBCU, yeah, it's a really good school. Every college president in the country gets to grade Dillard on a scale of 1 to 5

according to its academic excellence. How many college presidents have been to Dillard, know the slightest thing about Dillard, have met somebody who went to Dillard? I mean, it's this crazy system where we let people just, so basically what they do when they get these grades is they just award the schools that have the biggest name recognition, the most money in the bank, and the fanciest dorms, and the biggest end endowments and the most famous alumni. That's not a way to... You said rich students too, right?

Yeah. Another big thing is the graduation rate. And they fail to take into account that if you're a school like Dillard and you have average family income of someone at Dillard is $30,000 a year, they're drawing from disadvantaged communities. It's really hard. You can't have 95% graduation rate when you're coming from a family where if your mom loses her job, you've got to go home and help out.

Or when your dad gets sick, they can no longer afford your tuition. We're punishing schools for trying to serve communities that aren't wealthy, which is crazy, right? Why are they doing that? This drives me absolutely crazy. The amount of weight we give to these random ranking systems that are completely inconsistent with our values, with what we care about as people. What does the ranking system even mean, though?

If you're like, okay, my school is ranked this on the list, what does that really mean in the real world? It makes it easier for the school to raise money. It's all about money. It's only about money. These, all these things, if I can go, if I'm the president of a school that's ranked fourth on the U.S. News rankings, I can go to the big donor and say, wow, you know, look at me.

You know, you can give money to one of the top schools in the country, which brings up this interesting point, which always drives me crazy. If you're a really rich dude, why would you give your money to a school that already has money? It's the craziest thing. You should look at the school. Like I once did a big podcast episode

on this billionaire financier in New York who gave $500 million to Harvard, which has $40 billion in the bank. Why would you give half a billion dollars to a school, which has $40 billion in the bank. Why would you give half a billion dollars to a school that already has $40 billion? Who does that? We have too much money already. It's like walking into the Gucci boutique and just saying, guys, I got a couple thousand dollars.

I think you might need it to tie you through these difficult times. Nobody does that, right? I think there's a lot of rich people in this country, I think, are crazy. Now, how did U.S. News & World Report end up owning the college ranking space? By chance. I mean, they started doing it as a promotional gimmick in the 80s, and it caught on. The thing about rankings is whenever you do a ranking of anything, people fall in love with it, right? Everyone loves it.

Forbes list. We love the Forbes list. anything people fall in love with it right everyone loves it we all if somebody did a list of the top like morning radio shows and you guys were ranked number one you would absolutely say hey we'll be 172 on that list like we can't help ourselves even though even if i told you that the the the logic behind putting breakfast club number one was full of holes, you would say, yeah, but still. Wait a minute. There's no holes here.

The source has been ranking us number one for about five years. But I believe the truth. But you know, it's money, though. Because if you look at where you live at, right? It's based off of what the schools are ranked at. So if you're in a district where a school is ranked top five, let's say, in the state, you know that your taxes are going to be higher, you know that the houses in that area are going to cost more money.

So it's a number game that plays with money. Yeah, it's odd. I mean, these things, the whole question of higher education, education in general in this country, has somehow been perverted into something that is all about how much money you can assemble. We think what a good school is, is a school that has the most money in the bank

and spends the most money on educating students. And that's not about how much money you spend. It's about the culture you create. That's what makes a great school. You think they would take the rankings away since it hurts so many HBCUs? They should. I mean, at the end of one of my podcasts on this, I said, you know, I think it's time for students

at some of the schools that are being privileged by these rankings, the ones at the top, that are, I think, unfairly at the top, and say no more. Kids need to stand up and say, we are being unfairly privileged by a ranking system that's just set up to make schools like us succeed and schools that don't educate wealthy kids fail. and it is wrong for us to be participants in

such a system that'll never happen like why would people give up their privilege in America They also may not be aware of it though because this is not something that I knew how these rankings were I just would read the list when it comes out and be like okay I never thought about what goes into making this list I think they're aware. But Charlamagne, but this is interesting. Why wouldn't, why is it so hard for people to give up their privilege? I don't know,

because I say it on the radio all the time. I want white people to use their privilege to combat prejudice. You know, if you're going, we know you have privilege. So it's not like something you can just put on the table and say, here, I don't want it anymore.

But at least you use it to combat the prejudice that exists in our society. And I agree that it's never going to happen, that these kids at these elite schools are going to say, no more, we're dropping out. But I'm puzzled by why it's so difficult for people who already have

everything. I think it's hard for some people to even admit that they have privilege because if they admit that they have privilege and they feel like maybe I'm inferior and I'm not getting what I'm getting just because I'm good or talented I think that's why first you have to admit that you even have privilege which I think it's hard to do but I don't think they care I want to a predominantly white high school right mmm they didn't care it was the black state at the black table the blacks parked with the blacks Park the

blacks play basketball on this field I don't like how you say the black that's what it was it was the italians on this on one side the asians on one side and and all the african-american all the black people on the other side but that's what it was nobody cared until it was basketball game time other than that nobody cared until i went to a hbcu and then it was a different thing. Is that why you went? Yeah. Yeah. I would have went to an HBCU. All right, we got more with author Malcolm Gladwell.

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Yo, how do you think rich white kids could benefit from attending a HBCU but also benefit the HBCU by attending? In a really positive way. But how would it make the rankings of the HBCUs go? The biggest part of the rankings is the reputations. So a college president

gets to rank all the other colleges in the country on a scale of 1 to 5. If they see a lot of rich white kids at a school, they just assume it's a good school and they of one to five. If they see a lot of rich white kids at a school, they just assume it's a good school and they give it a five. If they see a lot of black kids at a school, they assume it's a poor school and they give it a two. So I was joking in my podcast by saying, look, if a school like Dillard all of a sudden had lots of white students,

they'd get a better reputation score because people would say, oh, there's rich white kids there. Let's give them a higher it's literally that it's it is i am not wow i'm not being sarcastic or ironic here it this is exactly the way it works so question like let's just say in the future like you know all of these you know black people who have wealth now and their kids are rich and they start going to these hbcus will that make the reputation score grow up? Or does it matter that they're rich, they're still black? Depends how strong you think this kind of racism still is in this country.

Yeah. Right? Is it possible for a lot of wealthy, you know, white college presidents to look at a school that educates black people and think it's a quality institution? I mean, how optimistic are you, Sean? None. Does curriculum matter at all?

No, not in these rankings. It should. I mean, that's not what they're interested in. That's not what the game's about, right? Wow. Now, what was your interest in looking into HBCUs? Because a couple of reasons. One is I have this ongoing fascination with how screwed up American higher education is.

So I started out by saying, when I talk to people who went to HBCUs, they say exactly what you said. They had this overwhelmingly positive experience. And then I looked on the U.S. News rankings and I saw that these schools are at the bottom, right? So my first question was, how is it a school can do such a good job educating its students? Do they come away saying that was one of the most important experiences of my life and simultaneously be ranked at the bottom, right? Those two things don't, there's something wrong with them. So that was one reason I wanted to look at it, to kind of resolve that contradiction, right? Surely, if the students who attend a school love their experience,

that means the school must be good. That's just about the most important thing that matters. But more than that, the more subtle ways in which discrimination persists in this country, that, you know, it's, I think what's been happening over the last couple of years is that we're finally, as a country, waking up to the fact

that there are layers upon layers upon layers upon layers of discrimination in all manner of different realms. You know, we got a spotlight finally on police violence last summer. But, I mean, that's been true for a couple hundred years, right?

But it takes a long time for people to focus on it and to start to peel away the layers and say, you know, it doesn't solve the problem if you just hire a couple of black police officers, you know, or you have to look closely in it. That's why I want to look at the U.S. news thing, because that was an example of a highly discriminatory practice that persists because people don't understand the assumptions that drive it. So that's a kind of, I think you have to be actively engaged in peeling back more and more layers of this onion. You can't stop and say we're done. That's the thing that always drives me crazy is people who stop and say we're done. You got to keep working at it. What flaws, and I want everybody to go listen to the, you know,

the Project Dillard podcast of Revisionist History Board, what flaws in the algorithm cause historically black colleges to rank so low? Well, the two that we've talked about are the critical ones, the three. One is that there are a number of different ways in which your ranking as a school depends upon how much money you have. And, you know, schools that serve a predominantly African-American population are going to have less money than, you know, Ivy League schools. Right. Just look at a school like Dillard's got an endowment of $100 million. Harvard's got 40 some odd billion. Right.

So you get penalized for that. Two, you get penalized for lower graduation rates. And graduation rates are not a function of how good a job the school is doing at educating students. They are a function of the economic circumstances of the students. If you choose to educate students from poorer backgrounds, you will not have a 95% at graduation rate. It's not going to happen, right? So that algorithm rewards you for having a high graduation rate,

which means it rewards you for educating the kind of kids who can afford to stay for four years and not have any kind of family troubles or whatever, who aren't working. Like if you talk to a kid at, I was talking to these kids at Dillard, you just ask them, do you have a part-time job?

Sometimes two part-time jobs. Do you know how hard it is? I mean, you know how hard it is to stay in school if you're leaving every day at 3 o'clock to work on one of your two jobs. And you're working all weekends. You can't do your homework. You can't do, you know, how many kids at, you know, Princeton have got part-time jobs? They don't, right? So that fact alone, it's a lot easier to graduate 95% of your students if none of them have part-time jobs.

And you can do those free internships, too, when your family has money. Exactly. And you can travel and go. If you live somewhere else, you know, go to another city to be able to do an internship. Whereas if you don't have that advantage or that privilege, you have to get a paid job in the summer doing whatever you can. Yeah. So these rankings are not acknowledging the reality of kids from less privileged backgrounds, black or white, right? It's like it is a struggle to afford your tuition and stay in school if you're in the

bottom half. It is easy if you're in the top half, right? So you don't give points to a school just for enrolling all the easy kids, right? This is the thing that drives me nuts. If you're educating a bunch of kids who went to the finest high schools in the country and you have, you know, a ton of resources at your disposal and on and on and on, your job is really, really easy. It's not that hard, right?

Like, I mean, it's like, you shouldn't be patting you on the back, right, for that. We do this so many times, it's like, we pat people on the back for like, you know, catering to rich people. I'm sorry, it's like, that's the easiest thing in the world. It is the easiest thing. Even choosing where you're gonna go to school,

sometimes you have to choose maybe a school that is offering you financial support as opposed to a school that maybe you wanted to go there, but it's too expensive. It's just amazing to me how America finds a way to throw a middle finger to the poor on every level. Yeah. Every level. Yeah. Now, if the algorithm affects the ranking of HBCUs, is it affecting the ranking of good, predominantly white institutions that are popular?

It will. The algorithm will penalize any school that chooses to educate kids from less privileged backgrounds and any school that doesn't have a lot of money in the bank and any school that doesn't meet the kind of conventional definition of a high prestige school. So a school that doesn't look nice, have famous alumni, all those kinds of things. So yeah, a lot of other, a lot of predominantly white institutions get penalized as well. But I think the penalty falls heaviest

on HBCUs that are choosing to their students from some of these less privileged backgrounds. And do these white institutions really suck? You know what I mean? They just got high rankings because of who go there. Like, do they really suck? You know what I mean? They just got high rankings because of

who go there? Like, do they really suck? We're not judging these schools on whether they're actually doing a good job at providing an education. We're just judging them on how much money they have. That's crazy. That's insane. Shouldn't it be about education? It should be. Yeah, it's not. Alright, we got more with author Malcolm

Gladwell. When we come back, don't move. It's The Breakfast Club. Good morning. Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy, Angela Yee, Char back, don't move. It's The Breakfast Club. Good morning. Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy, Angela Yee, Charlemagne Degas. We are The Breakfast Club. We're still kicking it with Malcolm Gladwell. Charlemagne. What do you think can be done to make HBCUs more appealing? We have to get rid of the ranking system.

I think we have to. And I think HBCUs are starting to do this. They have to explain to people what they're doing and what makes them special. There is a real flourishing right now of, I think, of HBCUs, a number of, you know, prominent people, you know, Kenya Barris, who shows I love. He loves you, by the way. I love Kenya. He has all kinds of a flurry of activity.

He's a genius. He's a genius. He loves you. He said he cares about what you think so much. Did you read that? No, no, no. He said he cares what you think so much. I have feelings mutual with him.

But as a whole, you know this, there's a whole class of really prominent people in this country who have come out of that. This is an opportunity for HBCUs to stand up and say, you know, we're doing something different and something special and providing an educational environment and a culture that is not available elsewhere in the

higher ed school system. And if they can make that argument powerfully and publicly, I think there's going to be, there will be a shift. You know, people will, it's starting to happen. People are starting to give money to these schools. They're starting to get the recognition they deserve. Yeah, Kenya gave a million. I forgot who Kenya, he gave a million to one HBCU.

He went to one of the Atlanta schools. He went to, not Clark. Did he go to Clark? I don't remember. Yeah, he went to one of those in the, you know, the Morehouse, Spelman. Yeah, it's only about Morehouse, Clark, and Spelman in that area. Yeah, yeah. Now, let me ask you a question. You think with everything that's going on with the fact that players have to go to college for one year to go into the league, you think that's going to affect any of this at all?

Because now, you know, colleges are built on sports, and now the fact that these players might not have to go to college anymore, that means that money is not going to be there anymore. They can't rape those artists and just make money off them. They can go to the G League immediately, get $500,000. You think that will affect ranking at all?

That's really interesting. I hadn't thought about that. I mean, it creates a problem for schools that have, you know, think of a school like Duke, which, you know,

used to be a kind of forgotten school in the South, now is considered to be one of the crown jewels of American higher ed. They are, part of that was built around their basketball success, right? So, you know, when basketball doesn't matter at a school like Duke, what happens to Duke?

I don't know the answer to that question. I mean, it's really an interesting thought. I mean, maybe basketball means something at these schools. Maybe it's all like for your kids and the quality of the play is a little less, but we get to enjoy it in a different way. I don't think that I'm in favor of these changes in the G League in particular. I think maybe it's time to separate the elite

players from everybody else and just enjoy college. I also think that HBCUs will do a lot better as far as ranking and kids wanting to go. Let's say you're a star basketball player. You play high school, you know that if you go to an HBCU nine times out of 10, people are not going to see you. Yeah.

It's not going to be on time. That's right. It's not going to be aired. So you go to a school like Duke or Florida and you know you will get that airtime that can possibly get a look that can get you into the league. So until they change that and we find a way to change that, maybe BET airing some of the HBCU games, I think we'll always have that problem. Yeah, yeah.

No, I mean, imagine if, like, Kevin Durant had gone to Morehouse instead of Texas. I mean, like, that would really have changed the national equation. I sort of think, I mean, Kevin Durant's proved you only need Kevin. You don't need anybody else. It doesn't matter. Just give him four other guys and he's fine. By the way, if these guys are only going to go to college for a year, go to an HBCU.

Now you can make money off your jersey and stuff like that. It would shoot through the roof. But more than that, and you could have an experience, an important experience, a real educational experience, and maybe go back and finish your degree when you're done playing. It's like my last question on the HBCUs, but aside from the ranking list, how do you think people view HBCUs on the grand scale in America? Well, there's a difference between the way they were viewed historically,

because remember, their roots are in a period where these schools were segregated. So, you know, they started as kind of all Sarans, where African Americans went because they couldn't go to other schools. Not all Sarans is the wrong word, but that's the way white people viewed them, right? I think that, like I said before, I think that attitude is now changing and people are becoming more and more aware of what is special and powerful about the experience of going to these schools. And I think people are—the other thing is we're getting—I hopefully think we're getting away from a model which says that that you can say that one school is number one and one school is number two. And that holds true for anyone who wants to go to those schools. It's not true. Right.

We've got to go back to an idea that says there ought to be 50 different kinds of schools that serve 50 different kinds of students that have 50 different kinds of cultures. And you need to find the one that matches what's good for you. I want to ask you about books real quick. Is it even worth putting out hardcover books anymore? Because I look at the numbers you did for Talking to Strangers audio-wise. Is it even worth it? Not for you. I mean, you should be doing these kinds of,

I mean, you already have an audience that wants to hear you, that listen to you, right? hear you, to listen to you, right? That's used to listening to you, and you have, you know, things to say. I mean, I think if you were writing a history of the Roman Republic, I would say that's a hardcover book. But if it's stuff you want to talk about and give in I think an audio, you should be an audio first person. I prefer books all the time. Yeah, but you would listen to an audio book. I think I honestly.

I can't believe she's like. No, I mean, business wise, you're absolutely right. I also like how books look. Like to me, books kind of look like art because I have libraries in every room in my house. Like I have bookshelves and everything. And I collect books like art, you know, and I like to have them and I like to get them like art. Because I have libraries in every room in my house. Like I have bookshelves and everything. And I collect books like art, you know? And I like to have them

and I like to get them like signed and keep them like that. And I also read more than I listen to audio books. Yeah. Oh no, at this point

I'm audio books all day. I think it depends on the story you want to tell. Like the story I was telling about this book I want to do on Tom Bradley in Los Angeles.

I want to do what we call an enhanced audio book because I want you to hear all these people. I want you to on Tom Bradley and Los Angeles. I want to do what we call an enhanced audio book because I want you to hear all these people. I want you to you know, I want you to hear Tom Bradley. I want you to hear Daryl Gates. I want you to hear the emotion in people's voices. I was interviewing

this guy last week. He was talking about what the LAPD used to call the prone position. You know, they would pull you over and, you know, for some random offense, and they would tell you to get prone. And that meant that you would, you had to lie down on the face first on the tarmac

with your hands out and your legs spread, right? And as he was talking about it, there was real emotion in his voice as he remembered this humiliating experience that happened to him as a kid. That's important to me. I want, when I'm doing this book, and I'm describing what the LAPD was doing in those years, it is important to me that you hear the testimony of someone in their own voice, and that you hear how he is now, this guy's a, this is 30 years ago, he's a grown man,

he's a successful man, gone off, and when he remembers what happened to him when he was 18 on some street in South Central, he gets emotional. Right? And you need to hear that emotion. That's why I want to do an audiobook. I can do it on the page, but it doesn't pack the same and you can, if you're someone who has no experience of what it meant, what it was like

being an 18-year-old African-American in 1975 in South Central, you can turn the page easily and it doesn't register. But if you hear his voice and you hear how it still stings, it holds you. So it's going to be for Audible, the Tom Bradley book? Yeah, it's going to be an audiobook, yeah. For Audible or just Audible?

Well, we'll also release it probably on our own. We have our own direct download at Pushkin that we release our audiobooks. But yeah, it'll be in both places. Gotcha. Gotcha. Wow. We appreciate you for joining us. Thank you so much.

Always, man. Always fun. Always a pleasure hearing from you. Malcolm Gladwell. It's The Breakfast Club. Good morning. It's about time. What's going on?

Rumor Report. Rumor Report. This is The Rumor Report. Talk to them. With Angela Yee on The Breakfast Club. Well, as you should know by now, Simone Biles withdrew from four individual finals in the Olympics. All around, vault floor and uneven bars. And she said she had mental health concerns and the twisties, which is when you lose your sense of awareness in the air. Now, she did return and she did win a medal in the balance beam final yesterday, and she said she did that for herself. I just felt like I wanted to do this for me.

I really wasn't medically cleared to do the other events that I had qualified into, so tonight I just wanted to get up there, have fun, do my beam routine, and then just see what happens. Now, what people didn't know was that her aunt had also passed. night. I just wanted to get up there, have fun, do my beam routine, and then just see what happens. Now, what people didn't know was that her aunt had also passed. So it was her aunt's unexpected death that she was going through during the Olympics. So you never know while people are being mean on social media and saying all kinds of things. Mentally, you don't know what someone's going through, and she does want to keep that conversation going. Right. I definitely think we're on the right road for a different path and

the next generations, you can already see it. They have some different rules in place for basically everything now. So we just have to keep them held responsible and just move on. And do you want to continue to be part of those conversations? I think so. I think it's helpful, especially having somebody that's gone through it and knows. She also said she chose to compete on the balance beam. She said she didn't have to twist or do anything. So it was very much at less risk because she had a different dismount also. I respect it. Your mental health is non-negotiable.

And, you know, I respect the fact that she's 25 years old and she has that education and that language in regards to mental health. Because I'm 43 and I'm just comfortable telling people, no, I'm not coming because of the way my anxiety is set up. OK. All right. Now let's discuss Sean King. Now he is moving out of his new house because of backlash. You know, there was a whole story about how he bought this house in North Brunswick, New Jersey, which is worth reportedly $842,000. He moved into this home earlier this year. But now a lot of people are showing up at his house because the media has plastered their address all over. The New York Post. Mm-hmm.

Which is crazy. Mm-hmm. So he posted, today I've had to make a heartbreaking decision after a combination of Fox News, the New York Post, and other outlets posting pictures of my home across the Internet, we've now seen our address posted all over the Internet. Strangers have started coming by the house. My kids can't go outside and play during the final month of summer break, so we're moving. I suppose it might always be this way.

I don't know. My wife bought this home, her first, after working her ass off for over 20 years. It took her nearly a year to even be able to purchase it. It was a quiet and peaceful refuge for her, for our five kids, for our dogs and our mothers, and it wasn't excessive. Again, she got a literal FHA loan to purchase it. I'm not even on the loan, but now we're not safe and we'll never be

safe here again. I don't care how you feel about Sean King. That's foul. You know what I mean? Because your home is your sanctuary. That man got a whole family. That man got kids. There's nobody that would want that to happen to them. You don't know how he got his money, how long they've been got a whole family. That man got kids. There's nobody that would want that to happen to them. And you don't know how he got his money,

how long they've been saving, what they do. You don't want that on anybody. And Sean, if you're listening, you reach out to me or Charlemagne and we'll show you how to do it the right way where your name doesn't pop up too, brother. No, no, no, no, no. Why are you putting my name in there? Tell me what you got planned.

Because I know he knows you. I know he knows you. Oh, you mean to have him reach out to me to pass him to you? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, okay, you. I know he knows you. Oh, you mean to have him reach out to me to pass him to you? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, okay, okay. You don't need to. Calm your ass down.

This is hard because once a delivery person sees where you live, once anything is, you know. That's your whole family. He got to up and move because people put his address out there and it's already not safe for him. You know what I mean? That's crazy. You don't do that to people, bro.

He said he sat there endorsing his wife crying multiple times this week over the devastation of it all he said shame on every black man and woman who shared it with glee shame on you for what you've done to them but I've seen all those reports about the amount the price of the house and how's he making the money where's he getting that money from you don't know what that man does outside

of his political stuff his wife did it he's not even on the loan that's what I'm saying you don't know what they do. His wife has been an educator for a long time. Absolutely. She got a loan, and the house is what, $800,000? $842,000. So how much is that?

What kind of down payment is that? Well, he had to put an FHA loan. So FHA loan is either 3% or 3.5%. So if you think about it, that's about $35,000 he had to put down out of pocket. His mortgage is about probably $4,000 or $5,000 a month. Come on, man. And between both of these, they make it, I'm sure.

That man got a book deal. Yes. She's an educator. Like, stop, man. That's messed up. That's foul. All right. That is.

Now, so we do wish them the best, though, because we don't wish that on anybody's family. A hundred percent. Not at all. And people do need to be more responsible. If you don't like somebody, great, but you don't have to be posting their home and their address and endangering their families.

And what if the person who posted that in the New York Post, what if somebody posted their address online like that and people started showing up to their house and threatening them? How would they feel? Alright, now T.I. was arrested in Amsterdam and he explained what happened. He explained the situation. He and his wife, Tiny, were in Italy celebrating their 11th wedding anniversary

and I guess at some point they stopped in Amsterdam while they were in Europe. He said he didn't get handcuffed or searched, but instead they asked him to get in the back of their car. So I'm locked up now. I'm obviously not supposed to have my phone as I'm biking. And because the policeman ran into me and broke his rear view. And because I didn't have my passport

on me, I don't know. It'll be fine. So T.I. was biking? Yeah. You know, in Amsterdam, they bike everywhere. As a matter of fact, one time I was in Amsterdam and the cab I was in hit somebody on a bike. And they're so polite there. The guy on the bike that was laying on the

ground. And he was like, go ahead and take them where they have to go and I'll just wait here. You know, that wouldn't happen. But they bike everywhere. And they've been doing that. Is that because they're high? I don't know. Maybe.

Are they so nice because they're high? Yeah, maybe. All right. Now, Boosie's second Instagram account has been deactivated. And that's all because of some things that he said on social media. And he went and put up another one again already so you have to um follow him on his new page if you want to he has like three pages now that you can go today i think he posts like the same stuff on all so now he's got at he's back again 2021 yeah i think he

been at that one i think he been at that one and he said he's getting bullied he said you can't even say the word now unless you uplifting it. You know, the opposite of straight. Yeah, that one. They don't took my dogish again. So, yeah, he's got another. I mean, you can say that word. You just can't, you know, threaten to beat people from that community up. He did say he wanted to pull Lil Nas X off stage and put hands on him. I don't think that's going to fly on Instagram. Nope.

He also added Maseri from Instagram and told him that he's a bitch. Boosie, that's not going to work. That's not going to work. You can't call the head of Instagram to be word and then wonder why your page is getting taken down, Boosie. That's not how any of this works. That's not going to work, Boosie. All right. Well, that is your rumor report.

All right. Thank you, Missy. Charlemagne, who are you giving that down with the two? Max B. Max Barry. He needs to come to the front of the congregation. We'd like to have a word with him. All right. Thank you, Missy. Charlemagne, who are you giving that down with a two? Max B. Max Barry. He needs to come to the front of the congregation. We'd like to have a word with him. All right. We'll get into that next. It's The Breakfast Club. Good morning.

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on wbns news channel 10 miami and it's clear why that's the first line but we'll get to that max berry was arrested for whileing out on a plane. Now, Max is absolutely one of those people who could have been on stage at Versus last night because he likes to fight. All right. He's a wild boy, like 1990, early 2000s levels of problematic hip hop. Wild, OK, wild out by the locks and probably always playing on a loop in Max Barry's head. And Max Barry was on a Frontier Airlines flight. Only reason I'm naming the airline is because I have to let listeners know where it's going down at in case you want to avoid or prepare for any problems.

See, if you know where it's going down at, you can make executive decisions to A, not show up, or B, be prepared to fight. Okay, you got to dress a certain way just in case you got to fight. You saw how the locks were dressed last night, a little bit of jewelry on kiss they were ready for battle and when you hear stories like max barry you need to be prepared for battle on front teen airlines too okay now max was on a flight from philly to miami i can't blame this one on florida because he's from ohio but i have a feeling you know just like you have to prepare for battles max was preparing for florida so he was getting into his Florida fool zone. See, some people don't wait to

get to Florida to act a damn fool. They turn into fools before they get to Florida. Sometimes you have to put the whole armor of a Florida fool on to prepare for Florida and just know that God takes care of babies and fools. Wait, I'm getting a download. What'd you say, God? Oh, don't bring you into this when it comes to Florida? Oh, Satan got a kingdom too? Oh, my bad. All praises due to God who just informed me I have nothing to do with this. Now, Max Barry, what did he do?

Let's go to WPLG ABC 10 for the report, please. This video showing a violent confrontation between a flight attendant and passenger during a flight from Philadelphia to Miami. Moments later, the flight attendant restrained the passenger with a seatbelt extender and duct taped him to his seat. The unruly passenger, identified as 22-year-old Maxwell Berry, started with a profanity lace tirade against a flight attendant. Miami-Dade police say Berry had a few alcoholic drinks, then groped the breasts of two female flight attendants and punched a male flight attendant, prompting crew members to subdue him. The flight attendants involved have been relieved of flying duty during the investigation. As far as the suspect, he was arrested and charged with battery after he landed here at Miami International Airport. Max brushed.

That news report was kind of cute. You know what I'm saying? It didn't give the details I wanted, okay? But Max brushed an empty cup against the attendant's backside. The attendant told Max not to touch them. And then Maxwell spilled his drink on his shirt, went to the restroom. Then Maxwell Berry groped a flight attendant's breast. Then the report

says barry walked up behind two flight attendants put his arms around them and groped their breasts again so the flight attendants asked another flight attendant to watch maxwell barry and then maxwell barry punched that flight attendant in the face okay the news report could have easily painted this kid out to be an unruly thug who not only sexually assaulted women by groping them he actually assaulted a flight attendant by trying to fight him actually punched him okay instead news reports point out that he went to college and that report we heard from abc 10 wplg didn't you know make it sound like he was committing actual crimes they treating him the way they treating the domestic terrorists who stormed the capitol on january 6th just my daily reminder that

there was an attempted coup on this country on January 6th, and they treated it like a bunch of kids while they're not on spring break, just like they're treating Max Barry now. Would you like to hear how Max Barry sounded before he punched the flight attendant? By the way, I don't know if the flight attendant was male or female, but listen. My parents are a quarter of a million goddamn dollars. Yeah, yeah. You know what? My grandpa was a quarter of a million dollars. The entitlement.

The privilege. We don't even have to play a game of guess what race it is, okay? The carcassity of Maxwell Berry. I hate a do you know who i am type of person and i hate uh do you know who my parents are type of person even more okay now i respect my elders and i'm a more healed version of myself but if someone told max f your grandma in that moment i can understand okay now that it's clear that his parents are somebody though because you can tell how these you know news reporters are reporting this story.

They even spoke to a spokesperson for Ohio Wesleyan University who said Maxwell Berry was a former student who graduated in May, and he was a member of the school's golf team. So what? Okay, they put all of this in the news report as if it matters to the story. You know why they did that? To justify this fact that the FBI was contacted and said they are not going to pursue federal charges against Barry. Once again, no need to play a game. But guess what race it is. And his parents really must be somebody, because if you groped two flight attendants, punch another one, have to be restrained on a plane by being duct taped to the seat. Most of us would probably be banned from flying forever or at least suspended from flying for a long time. But not when you Max B. No, not Max B, the wave God. This Max B is the white God. OK, who clearly has the connections and complexion for protection.

Kathy, would you like to, you know what to do, Kathy. Please give this giant jar of mayo the biggest, hee-haw. All right. Well, thank you for that donkey of the day. Yes. All right. All right. Up next, ask Yee.

800-585-1051. If you need relationship advice or any type of advice, call Yee now. It's The Breakfast Club. Good morning. Come on Need relationship advice? Need personal advice? Just need real advice Call up now for Ask Yee Morning everybody It's DJ Envy Angela Yee Charlamagne Tha Guy

We are The Breakfast Club Good morning It's time for Ask Yee Hello, who's this? What's up, this is Carter Carter, good morning man What's up Envy Angela,. Carter, good morning, man. What's up, Envy? Angela, I gotta ask you a question,

Yee. Okay. My best friend since fifth grade, she is marrying a guy I'm in the wedding. Yee, I just found out the guy's gay. Ooh. I ain't gonna lie, that happened to me one time, but okay, so go ahead. How do you know he's gay for sure?

I've seen the video. Oh, so there's actual video because with me, it was just a person who told me that this guy was gay, but I don't know if it's true or not. And so I was like, let me mind my business. You was about to get married, G? No, somebody I know. That's a good to sound like.

Somebody told me the guy was gay, but I don't know if he is. So I'm minding my business because people just say things sometimes, but you're saying you saw an actual video. Yeah, yeah. One of my friends who's a mutual friend and his brother sent a video to me and was just like, you know your best friend is married a gay, right? Alright, well. So I'm just like, I don't know what to do. I think you should talk to the guy first and give him the opportunity to talk to her, because I'm sure, you know, that's a difficult one. Because like they always tell you not to out somebody if they're not ready to be outed.

But marriage is such a serious thing. And you also don't know if she knows or not, because this could be an old video. She could have known that he has dibbled and dabbled or that he's bisexual or whatever so you don't know what their conversations are like so exactly that's why i wanted to mind my business at first but i'm like i think you should talk to him and tell him that look this video exists she's going to find out if she doesn't already know and i'm'm going to tell her unless you do first. Okay.

Okay. I'll go with that. Thank you. Okay. No problem. All right. What if the woman is full? Like you said, what if she's fully aware of this already?

Well, then he'll be like, he'll tell him she already knows. But the thing is that obviously he saw the video. Other people have seen it. This is something that's circulating. So they have to- Maybe that's the conversation. The the conversation should be hey you know I just want you to know there's a video of your man out there like this as opposed to hey your man is gay yeah but I'm telling him he should go to her man

first and let him have the conversation with her and tell him that this is what's known and if you haven't told her or she isn't aware you know then we have to let her know that this is happening because what about if he just sends the video from a, from no, no, not from his phone, from somebody else's phone, just so it just pops up. So she, that way he knows that it is. And she's not embarrassed that now somebody knows that, you know, if they don't want nobody to know, I think that he should let him give her the opportunity. He should give him the opportunity to have the conversation with her first, if she doesn't know. Okay. That's the best way to go about it. And if he's not going to come forward and she doesn't know and she's not aware

you know because there is video it's one thing when it's hearsay it's a whole nother thing when there's evidence right ask ye 800-585-1051 if you need relationship advice call her now it's the breakfast club good morning get some real advice with angela ye it's ask ye morning everybody Breakfast Club. Good morning. This is Real Advice with Angela Yee. It's Ask Yee. Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy, Angela Yee, Charlamagne Tha Guy. We are the Breakfast Club. We're in the middle of Ask Yee. Hello,

who's this? This is Brittany. Hey, mama. What's your question for Yee? Okay, so I'm in a brand new relationship with an amazing guy. And the only issue I have is that his sex is bad. All right, so what is bad? Like, what's bad about it?

Is it that his penis is small, which can't be fixed? Is it that the rhythm is off? Is it that he can't make you orgasm? What's bad? His penis size is average. Okay. But he hasn't been able to make me orgasm.

He's kind of selfish in bed. Have you told him? No. Well, he can't read your mind. Are you pretending to have orgasms? No, I don't pretend. Okay. So, and listen, I've had experiences where when I first got with somebody, it wasn't good, but

it got better as we got to know each other's bodies more because, you know, different things work differently on different people. Some guys think that what worked before will work with you. Some guys aren't used to being told this is what I need you to do in order for you to orgasm and things like that. When you can tell a guy what to do, it can turn him on also. And it also helps you. And so that's when it's time for you to really speak up and let him know what it is that he needs to do. I think he will receive it. He's so sweet. I'm afraid to hurt his feelings. I don't think it has to hurt his

feelings though because you can always give that advice in a positive way. While you're doing it, you can tell him real sexy like, I really want you to do this. I love when you do that or keep doing this or you know what will really make me orgasm if you do this. And you just gotta be real nasty and dirty about it. I love when you do that or keep doing this. Or you know what would really make me orgasm if you do this. And you just gotta be real nasty and dirty about it.

I like that. And you'll really like it when you orgasm. And he'll like it too because trust me, it's gonna make sex better for both of you. Like you said, he's a sweet guy. If he's that sweet, he wanna see you get off. That's true. He's asking like, what can I do?

And I'm like, oh my God, I don't want her to know because I have a lot of criticism. And girl, he's asking you. So that's when you got to, you know, tell him. That's true. You're right.

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If you need relationship advice, you can hit E.E. now. Now we got rumors on the way. Yes, let's talk about Diddy. People were questioning him having 15 roaches on his face, and he clears it up. Alright, we'll get into that next. It's The Breakfast Club. Good morning.

It's time. She's spilling the tea. This is the Rumor Report with Angela Ye on The Breakfast Club. Okay, so yesterday was Black Women's Equal Pay Day, August 3rd. And what does that mean? Well, that's the day that they celebrate how black women must work into 2021

to finally catch up to what white non-Hispanic men earned in 2020. Over the last year, women have left the workforce in unprecedented numbers because of COVID-19. So they said if you are a black or brown woman, chances are things were even worse and harder for you. They said black women must work an extra 214 days to catch up with what white non-Hispanic men made in 2020 alone. Across industries, black women make 63 cents for every dollar made by white men, according to studies. Well, with all that being said about yesterday, we also found out yesterday that Angela Bassett has led the way with a major bump to $450,000 an episode for Fox's flagship drama 9-1-1. So what they are saying is that they believe that is among the top salaries on network television for any actor, male or female, and it could be the highest ever for an actress of color on a broadcast drama series. So congratulations to Angela Bassett setting the standard.

Queen Angela Bassett deserves it all. Overcharged them for snubbing you at the Oscars for what's love got to do with it all those years ago. Damn it. Dropping the clues, Bones, for Angela Bassett. The male lead on the show, Peter Krause, he gets, by the way, he got a raise also. He gets in the low $300,000 per episode. Never heard of him. So while she's getting $450,000, that's what she's getting.

She definitely deserves that. And let's also talk about Rihanna. This news just broke that she is now officially a billionaire. She's worth $1.7 billion, according to Forbes estimates. She's the wealthiest female musician in the world and second only to Oprah as the richest female entertainer. And it's not necessarily because of her music. Clearly.

The bulk of her fortune, which is an estimated $1.4 billion, comes from the value of Fenty Beauty. They said she owns 50% of that. And some of that is Savage Fenty, which is worth $270 million also. And then, of course, her music career. Big Fenty, drop on the clues bomb for Rihanna. Y'all ain't never getting a new Rihanna album. Why would I do one?

Why would she waste her time slumming away in that damn studio? Okay? Just for fun, right? That's Big Fenty. That's Big Fenty what you call her, okay? All right. Now, Diddy, let's talk about him for a second. Y'all remember when the internet was questioning how Diddy knew he had 15 roaches on his face?

And people were saying, come on, now stop it. Because he had posted one day when I was growing up, I woke up and there was 15 roaches on my face. At that moment, I said, hell no, I refuse to live like this. Work hard, believe in your crazy dreams, and never settle. People really zoned in on the 15 roaches on his face. How did you know it was 15? They didn't believe him. Well, he actually told Vanity Fair the story.

One day I woke up with around 15 roaches on my face. People were like, how do you know it was 15? I was like, if you had 15 roaches on your face, you would know there was around 15 roaches on your face. And I was like, no, man, I'm not doing that. F*** that. you have 15 roaches on your face, you would know there was around 15 roaches on your face. And I was like, no, man, I'm not doing that. That. I wish I would argue with people about how many roaches were on my goddamn face,

as if it matters. You know black people love to exaggerate. All I was trying to tell you was a bunch of roaches on my face. Were they water bugs or were they smaller variety of roaches? It don't matter. There's no way 15 water bugs.

We don't know. We don't know. You weren't there. Water bugs are like the scariest thing ever because they fly too. He was just trying to say a lot. That's all. Right. Don't you think that out of all the roaches, water bugs are the worst?

If you had to put them on a scale. They're all the same to me. Yeah. I don't even know the difference. There's smaller roaches and then there's the water bugs. Because all of them fly. You got flying cockroaches, flying water bugs. It's disgusting. Especially when they coast through the air and jump

on you. They all getting crushed. On your face. 15 of them. You can't even kill it if it's on your face because you got to squash it on your face. You got to do what you got to do. Alright, now Nas has shared his track listing of King's Disease 2. Y'all know that is coming out on Friday. And featured on the album

Eminem and EPMD. EPMD 2. A Boogie. Lauryn Hill. Charlie Wilson. Hitboy is also on the album. So yeah, should be exciting. Who produced it though? Is it like the last King's Disease

where Hitboy produced it all? Do we know that? I think Hitboy produced the majority of it, I believe. That's his guy. Alright, and you know, Dinda's also supposed produced the majority of it, I believe. That's his guy. All right. And, you know, Dinda's also supposed to come out on Friday, so we shall see.

Showtime has dropped the trailer for that Rick James documentary Bitchin' the Sound and Fury. And here is that trailer. Blacks have been stigmatized into this choreograph. Do-wop, do-wop.

You know, I want to write about whatever and be able to wear whatever, I want to write about whatever and be able to wear whatever. I want to be nasty and I want to be raw. This man was a genius. Electric. He had an attitude. A father. A draft doctor. Sexual

abuser. Crazy. It gets no funkier than Rick James. Never mind who you thought I was. I'm Rick James, bitch. All right. This is also directed and produced by Sasha Jenkins, right? Showtime does great documentaries. That Dick Gregory documentary

is phenomenal, too. And Teddy Pendergrass. Teddy Pendergrass is absolutely phenomenal. I forgot that was Showtime. Yeah, that is amazing. You know I love that documentary. You're playing with Showtime, too, right?

On my trip. Was that? Yeah, I think that was on Showtime also. It was like a four-part series. All right, now DaBaby. More festivals have actually dropped him from their lineups. So they said that he will no longer be performing at Austin City Limits Music Festival, also the Midtown Music Festival, the iHeartRadio Music Festival.

We told you about Governance Ball and Day in Vegas dropping him as well. Now, according to reports, they said that he lost the Lollapalooza gig because he promised to deliver a video apology. And they said his reps reached out to seven fall festival promoters to assure them that they would have that video apology ready to be played before he hit the stage. And they said it would be a heartfelt apology to the LGBTQ plus community, but it never came.

They said he missed the deadline to issue that apology video and that's what made them drop him from the lineup. So he did eventually apologize, by the way. And so we're waiting to see if this is a true report or not. All right. And that is your rumor report.

All right. Salute to the locked once again, man. Yes, we got to, man. That versus last night was legendary. And you know they're going on tour, the Locks and Dipset.

And so it was a lot of tense moments. Do we have time to play that one? Yeah, let's play it in the very beginning. There was a moment when Jadakiss was

getting upset because Cameron kept talking over him. We in New York, right? Why these niggas keep rhyming over the words? Y'all could have stayed in the car Adekus was getting upset because Cameron kept talking over him. Talk, talk, talk. We ain't talking on your part. Shut the f*** up, dude. You're on our time. Now I'm not. They talk the f***. You're causing a distraction. They don't know the f***ing words. That's why. Listen, listen.

New York, they're causing a distraction. This is hip-hop. We in the mecca of New York. Yo, Tech, let's make something happen. You look crazy. Dropping a clues box for the locks. Crazy, crazy, crazy. It's the reason I only listen to the locks when I'm in the gym.

You know, driving in the car, hitting the gas, because they have historically made me feel like I want to just stab somebody with something sharp. You know what I mean? Take a little turmeric shot or a wheatgrass shot and then stab you in the back of the neck at the base of your skull with the tail of a Jurassic Park dinosaur toy. Why is it always the back of somebody? That's what I want to know.

But anyway. All right. Shout to Revolt. We'll see you tomorrow. Everybody else, the People's Choice is up next. The Mix is up next. It's The Breakfast Club. Good morning.

The Breakfast Club. Your mornings will never be the same. Hey, it's Angela Yee. Don't let weak hair hold you back. Carol's Daughters Goddess Strength Collection supports hair as it gets longer for hair that's 15 times stronger after one use. Available at carolsdaughter.com and your local retailer. Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy, Angela Yee, Charlamagne Tha God.

We are The Breakfast Club. Now, shout out to Malcolm Gladwell for joining us this morning. That's right. Salute to Malcolm Gladwell. Make sure you check out the Revisionist History podcast. Okay. That episode about Project Dillard where he breaks down the HBCUs and the college rankings. Very, very interesting stuff, man.

Go check that out. And, yo, salute to Anita Kopach. We had Anita on yesterday because her novel, Shallow Waters, came out yesterday on Black Privilege Publishing. The audio was number one on Amazon. Number one bestseller on Amazon. So salute to Anita, salute to everybody that's going out there to grab Shallow Waters. The story of Yimmy Yah.

Okay? Go grab that wherever you buy books. Absolutely. All right, rules. All right, when we come back, we got the positive notes. So don't move. It's The Breakfast Club.

Good morning. Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy, Angela Yee, Charlamagne Tha Guy. We are The Breakfast Club. Good morning. Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy, Angela Yee, Charlamagne Tha Guy. We are The Breakfast Club. Now, I have nine days left for my car show. That is Coachella, Atlantic City. If you haven't got your tickets, get your tickets. Let me shout out to my bro, John, who is one of the very few black NASCAR owners. He's bringing his NASCAR to the show and they're going to have the pit crew show the kids how to change tires quickly. Got a monster truck coming for the kids. So if you were a kid and grew up on monster trucks and you love monster trucks, you can see one up close

and personal, take pictures. And then your favorite celebrity cars and all types of cars, amusement rides, face painters. It's a big day of family. So can't wait to see you guys August 14th. Get your tickets if you haven't got them as of yet. Now, Envy, have you learned how to change a tire yet? I did. I actually went to Lincoln Tech. And that was one of the things for Lincoln Tech to continue my sponsorship. They was like, we have to teach you how to change a tire. So they actually had to teach me how to change the tire.

So I'm a professional now when it comes to it. Do you know how to change oil? Don't push your luck. Okay. Do you know how to change your tampon, Envy? Don't push your luck. Don't push it luck. Okay. Do you know how to change your tampon, Envy? Don't push your luck. Don't push it in your butt. Envy clearly uses pads.

I hate y'all, y'all. I hate y'all. I hate y'all. Grow up, everybody. You grow up, man. What's wrong with y'all? You grow up. Now, what about the men out there that really do have pads?

What about those guys, huh? Why are you pad shaming me? What? Don't pad men don't get their period some men still wear pads maybe they like it i don't know men wear pads he envy does i guess what is envy this is the third stupid thing envy said this morning that's a record envy said if carmelo wins the ring with the lakers it's like it's a win for the knicks i'm standing a win for the Knicks. I'm standing by that one. That's like a loss for the Knicks. Just now he said, men like to wear maxi pads for no reason. And don't shame them. I didn't say that.

I said you can't shame them. You can't shame anybody anymore. There was something else he said this morning that was silly, but I can't remember right now. Anything else? Give us a positive note. Keep going.

The positive note is this. Healing comes. Let's talk healing. I love talking healing. Healing comes. Let's talk healing. I love talking healing. Healing comes from taking responsibility to realize that it is you and no one else that creates your thoughts, your feelings and your actions. Breakfast Club, bitches! You all finished or you all done? Had enough of this country? Ever dreamt about starting your own?

I planted the flag. This is mine. I own this. It's surprisingly easy. 55 gallons of water, 500 pounds of concrete. Or maybe not. No country willingly gives up their territory. Oh my god. What is that? Bullets. Listen to Escape from Zakistan.

We need help! That's Escape from Z-A-Q Estan on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. those runs, the conversations keep going. That's what my podcast Post Run High is all about. It's a chance to sit down with my guests and dive even deeper into their stories, their journeys, and the thoughts that arise once we've hit the pavement together. Listen to Post Run High on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. As a kid, I really do remember having these dreams and visions, but you just don't know what is going to come for you.

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