The Breakfast Club - Marketing Hustle

Episode Date: January 17, 2022

Today on the show we flashed back to when Ralph McDaniel or better known as Uncle Ralph stopped by where he spoke about 'Video Music Box' & capturing legendary moments during the golden age of Hip Hop. Also brought back friend to the room Stacey Tisdale andTeri Ijeoma to speak on how to trade in today’s market and use stocks as a side hustle. During the episode, we also flash back to when Marlon Wayans stopped by and spoke on ‘Respect’ Film, comedic therapy, new comedy special and the time when Charlamagne gave "Donkey of the Day" to a man that called 911 for getting lost after breaking into someones house. Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Yo, good morning. Good morning, Breakfast Club. Good morning. Good morning. Get it off your chest, brother. Well, I don't really got nothing to get off my chest. I just want to say that, you know, me and my wife, we just closed on our house last week. Congrats, man.

Congratulations, King. No doubt. I appreciate it. I want to give my flowers to all three of y'all. I listen to y'all every morning. I'm a truck driver. I'm out here doing my thing. You know, I moved from New York and I live down in Georgia now, you know, and I listen

to you. You guys have done a lot for the community, for everybody. Charlemagne, you are the man. Thank you, King. And Angela Yee, you're a beautiful queen. Congratulations on everything you got going on. Thank you. DJ Envy, how can a brother get a big truck in the car show?

Let's do this. I mean, I have no problem putting a big truck in the car show. Is it customized or is it just a regular 18-wheeler? Yeah. No, it's customized. You know, I did my interior. I did my life, you know, running life, all of that. All right.

You know, I'm trying to get it on. Well, I'm glad that I got to. Wow, I'm on the radio. Let's do this. All right. Congrats, brother. Peace, King. All right, bro.

Y'all be good, man. Have a great day. God bless all three of y'all. You too now, brother. Hello, who's this? Oh, this is A-Rod. A-Rod, what up? Get it off your chest.

It's been in my chest for about two months now. I just want to ask Charlamagne that why can't you accept that Mr. Durant killed everything that's better than Michael Jackson? Man, shut your... Shut up. I'm sending you healing energy, my brother. Have a great day, okay? All right?

Why? You just calling up here to raise my blood pressure. Bleach your case. Why you think Drake is better than Michael Jackson? I'm not having this conversation. Why not? How old are you? That's all you got?

I'm 23. Exactly. So, Mr. Bill Ryker, I've seen Drake himself as now the greatest rapper of all time. Could you, like, just, you know, go do something with your life, sir? You don't got nothing you could be doing this morning. You ain't got a job you can go to, something. Go help your mama clean her basement. Like, is there anything you could do?

I don't want you. I don't. I hate that. I'm just asking you that. Why can't you accept that? I'm not having this conversation with you on why Michael Jackson is better than Drake. You know, I'm about to raise my blood pressure early this morning. Okay?

Hey, you ever seen the. Hey. You ever seen that meme where that old man eating breakfast and the young man asked him a dumb question? He's like,

man, just shut the f*** up. I don't even think that Drake would say that he's better than Michael Jackson. You don't think so? No. Well, you have a good morning. Where you on your way to work to?

Where you work, bro? I'm working Uber right now. All right. Let's see you guys on the radio every day. I appreciate everybody. Love all y'all. Man, I pray to God that I never get in an Uber with you, man.

Can you imagine being in the backseat of the Uber and then the Uber driver be like, hey, man, why do you think Drake better than Michael Jackson? Let me out right now. Then take the long way to his crib. One star. Just keep asking and just start playing Drake music over and over. One star. It's over.

All right, man. Have a good one. By the way, salute to Drake. But come on, man. Stop asking stupid questions. Drake and way, salute to Drake. But come on, man. Stop asking stupid questions. Drake and Michael Jackson. There's only one Michael Jackson. One.

One and one. Get it off your chest. 800-585-1051. There's only one Drake, too. The Breakfast Club. This is your time to get it off your chest. Whether you're mad or blessed. You better have the same energy.

We want to hear from you on The Breakfast Club. Hello, who's this? Jay. Jay, what up? Get it off your chest, bro. Man, I got dealt dirty. I got played. You know, I feel like crap. What's the matter? What's the matter? I had a business partner.

Me and him went into business together. You know, I gave everything. I even went and got that Sba loan and he did too and we went and went to business got a guy on truck and everything and he went behind my back got another truck and all this funny stuff went to the accountant without me everything and uh here i am i'm left with nothing i had to i had to even bail where i was living at i'm back with my parents like i'm starting to swear all over again i am so sorry bro so y'all y'all didn't have a contract with each other no he was my own boy me me and him went through like three jobs together you know he introduced me we met at the same job. He found another one, got me on, and then I found a better one

so we could get our Class A CDLs, and I brought him with me. I just want to say, man, I have started a business with somebody I've known since I was, like, in fifth grade. But, you know, in the future, because I do feel bad that this happened to you, make sure you do an operating agreement when you start a business with somebody because you have to have your paperwork right. You never know what might happen. That way, legally, you'll be able to say. But even though you could be best friends, family members, married, but if you do have a business together, do make sure you have an

operating agreement and have a real lawyer invest in that because when things go left, you need to make sure. And a lot of times things do go left in business. Y'all don't even want to have to have that conversation. It's just all in the paperwork. Yeah, see, how I feel now is like, you know, I'm going to give back to that state. Like I said, I'm a star for Brownsville. You know, I ain't never, I ain't giving up.

Right. And now you got something to prove. Yeah, yeah. I want to give back to that state, but I want to do it me. I'm going to do it myself, you know. You got this. You learned a lot, you learned a lot Yeah, yeah I already taken an L, right? Yeah, you took an L, but that L also means

Learn from it Yeah, it's a learning experience, good luck, brother Hello, who's this? What's up, man, it's Big Ruben, man, from St. Louis, Missouri What up, Ruben, get it off your chest, bro What's up, man I just want to say, first off, man, from St. Louis, Missouri. What up, Ruben? Get it off your chest, bro. What's up, man? Hey, I just want to say, first off, man, appreciate everything y'all do. Love all y'all, especially my girl, Angela Yee.

But heard the announcement for the Super Bowl performances, man, and I was like you. I was hyped, man. And then, you know, on the radio, we got this negative Nancy Charlemagne, the Giza, man, Just kind of, you know, ain't nothing wrong with their performances, man. I think it's going to be a good show. Let me ask you a question, sir. Why do you think it's negative to ask

why our legends in hip-hop have to share a stage collectively when you got people like the Katy Perry's of the world and whoever else who don't even have the resume they do, they get their own solo show? And I asked a question. I said,

I wonder if that was a prerequisite to them performing because they don't let acts like that perform at the Super Bowl. Let's be clear. So I was wondering, was that a prerequisite or, you know, I just was asking a question. That's all. Besides, besides, maybe like a Michael Jackson or

Whitney Houston, it's always been shows where artists are coming on with rock groups, with rappers out there with them. So this ain't the first time that happened, man. Everybody except Mary is from Cali, man. Eminem is not from there. Eminem's from Detroit. Shut up.

Eminem's not from there, but damn, he's been on all West Coast music. That's Dre Boy. Dre brought him out. That's not true either. But my point is, if you're not wondering that, then you're just not thinking. I was just wondering why they had to do it as a collective. I love the show. I think it's a great lineup.

But I'm just wondering why they had to do it as a collective. I love y'all too, man. I love you too, dog. I appreciate everything you're doing. Well, thank you for calling in. Like I said, this morning when I heard that, man, I was hyped. And, bro, you're from St. Louis, correct? You're from St. Louis, right?

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Look at property from St. Louis, correct? You're from St. Louis, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Look at property in St. Louis. Real estate in St. Louis is at a good price right now and it's starting to increase a lot. So look at real estate in St. Louis. That's my next stop. All right, right on, man. Make an announcement when you're coming there. I do a seminar or something.

I definitely want to be a part of it. I ain't doing no seminar. I'm just telling you. Start looking at property in St. Louis. Start Googling. Go to the websites because I'm hearing there's a lot of great deals and, I ain't doing no seminar. I'm just telling you, start looking at property in St. Louis. Start Googling. Go to the websites because I'm hearing there's a lot of great deals and they're starting to build up the city a lot more. Well, maybe you should do a seminar there then.

Maybe. But thank you, brother. Get it off your chest. 800-585-1051. If you need to vent, phone lines are wide open. Call us up now. It's The Breakfast Club. Good morning.

The Breakfast Club. Morning, everybody. It's DJ Breakfast Club. Good morning. The Breakfast Club. Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy, Angela Yee, Charlamagne Tha Guy. We are The Breakfast Club. We got a special guest in the building, Uncle Ralph, Ralph McDaniel. Yes, indeed. Good morning. Hey, good to be here.

Breakfast Club. I'm honored right now. We are honored to have you here, man. Congratulations. Thank you so much. For the documentary on Video Music Box. I watched it yesterday. I was hungover, so I was laying on the couch, and I just turned it on.

Oh, good. Yeah, I thoroughly enjoyed it. Oh, great. It was such a staple here in the tri-state area. I remember it was Video Music Box, and it was New York Hot Tracks. Yes, yes. Yeah, you're showing your age now with New York Hot if I wanted to see videos the only place back then you really could see it if you caught one of those shows yes 31 yes channel 31 and

you know look this has been something that we've been wanting to do I've been working on this project for 10 years so we went to a bunch of hoops did you get through Showtime and Mass Appeal. And then Nas came in and said, I want to get this right. And I almost cried when he said that. I was like, what are you talking about, bro? How do you go through all that footage? Yeah. Because you have a lot of footage. Now, if you don't know, Video Music Box is a video show that started off playing hip hop videos when nobody else would. It was on. it wasn't on cable, so it was channel 31, one of the high channels, and after school,

we'd all run home to go watch it. Yes. But you have footage of years, man. How did you go through the footage to decide what you're going to put in this documentary? Because the documentary was, what, 90 minutes? 90 minutes, yeah. It could have went, to me, for three hours,

and it would have been interesting, but, you know, showtime was like, easy, take it easy, pal. But, you know, we filled up that 90 minutes with so much stuff. And, you know, so many interviews were left on the editing floor. It was difficult to really shave it all down to 90 minutes. But, you know, you got the 80s and the 90s. I said the 90s are super important. Let's make sure that we got the 90s and make sure we got more of that than the 80s

because there's a lot more people around from the 90s. So let's touch on that. And I like the 90s era myself from a hip-hop perspective such a such a full circle moment for you to you did naz's first video yes and then for him to be executive producing this with with mass appeal man how did that feel um naz came in and i looked at him and i said you know you know this is something that you i think you going to enjoy. And originally he was the executive producer. He wasn't the director. And then he somewhere in the middle said, no, I'm going to direct this. And I want to get this right, Ralph.

And I just was, you know, it was, you know, like I did It Ain't Hard to Tell, the first single off of Illmatic. I directed that. And this thing called EPK, which was really the thing that really broke Nas in New York because it was like an interview with all the producers and all the people that were involved. I went to his house, hung out in Queensbridge. It was just like a little short documentary that I did for Nas. So now he's doing, you know, my thing, and I'm like bugging.

I'm like, this is the God. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's just one of those things. It's like, yo, you never know who's going to be who. That's why you should show everybody everybody love. Key, yeah. It's just one of those things. It's like, yo, you never know who's going to be who. That's why you should show everybody love. Key, key. You know, we see people all the time that come up, and I always show people respect because I don't know.

First of all, because I'm from the street, and I understand respect the street. Absolutely. Because we got to go out there in these blocks all the time, and I'm like, no, we don't want no problems out here. So I never know who's who. And let's continue to respect. And I think that people say, man, you be out here. You know, you on the Ave and you in this place.

And I'm like, you don't got no bodyguards. They be looking around like, where do I? I'm like, I'm good. What's up? I was going to ask that. You ever got into any problems? Because like with Fat Joe said on the documentary, you know, I'm on my block. And they say Video Music Box got a party down the block.

And you were in the Bronx. You were in Brooklyn. You went to LA. you were in the Bronx. You were in Brooklyn. You went to L.A. You went to the hood. You were on Jamaica Avenue. You were in the hoods. Did you ever have a problem at all? You know, we probably did.

But my man Beast. Yeah, you highlighted him in the doc. Yeah. You gave him the love. But Beast was not like my security. He was my friend. You know, like, we weren't like, you know, people. He did security for all these other people like that you know

he became known for Wyclef and everything and he's known he's in the Shadda's movie and everybody knows him for Shadda's because he blows up the whole place

he's acting right but Beast was official you know he's an official cat you know and so we kept guys like that

they just hung around I tell people this a lot of not Beast but a lot of the other guys that worked with us all had come home from jail. They needed an opportunity. And I said, yo, I'm going to give you all an opportunity to work with me, but y'all can't screw it up. You know? And most of those guys took it and ran with it and did the right thing.

Now, Video Music Box was really just in the tri-state area, but people knew about it from all over. Why do you think it never ended up going national? Well, in the doc, I said that I went to MTV, and there was this concert called The Fresh Fresh, and I went there, and I was like, I saw a mixture of everybody. I saw white people, black people, Asian people. I said, oh, this is happening right now. And I went to MTV, and they were like, no,

middle America's not ready for this, Ralph. You know, it's not happening right now. And I'm like, there's a tour. It's going out. I got the videotapes. Take a look at it. And they were like, no, you don't need to pull out the tapes. It's okay. We already know what we're going to do. And then two years later, they did Yo! MTV Raps. And, you know, people thought, oh, you got to be tight right now.

And I wasn't tight then. I was more tight the first time because I knew that it was happening already and they could have had to jump on it so my whole career I've been a little bit early but you know whatever was gonna be was what is going how did you get paid original from video music box because there was no commercial we was doing three or four parties in the night you know and you know just walking away with the money and going okay we good yeah you explaining the doctor's you never actually made money off the show. No.

No, because it was, first of all, it was on a PBS channel. And so it was non-commercial, which was great, really, because it gave us the opportunity to educate where, you know, you can't really do that in commercial world. Like, you know, I don't have time for that. We got to run commercials, bro. We ain't trying to help the community. You know, we wanted to do a lot of that, and we did do

that in the show, so it was a balance of both. And that's how we got through being on that station. We got more with Uncle Ralph, Ralph McDaniels. When we come back, of course, he's the creator of Video Music Box. It's The Breakfast Club. Good morning. The Breakfast Club.

Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy, Angela Yeee charlamagne the guy we are the breakfast club we're still kicking it with uncle ralph charlamagne you know you got the video of uh of big and naz freestyling yeah you know uh jay and big in the club all great but what is your most prized piece of footage That's a good question. I think for me, it's probably Big and Jay when they did my birthday. Because that was really kind of like out of the blue.

And Jay came and was hosting it. And they were both at the early stages of their career. It was like the beginning of Rockefeller and the beginning of Big at Bad Boy. And they just, and the place was crowded. You know, this is when people got dressed up

and they danced at clubs, remember that? And you know, it was just one of those nights where you were like, couldn't call that any better than that. That was a beautiful night. You know, it was like everybody, your peers were there. You know, just one of those shows that was just, just it was perfect but you didn't realize that those two individuals would become these mythical yeah you know beings that they are now right right you always say you know people always ask me what if big was alive what would that be like between him and jay and

nas like what would that you know what would that look like? I don't know, you know, like, I mean, Nas, you know, is, you know, like I'm a fan of like, you know, poets, and you know, and Nas is that kind of spiritual kind of thing, you know, that's how, when he started doing my thing, I was like, this is a spiritual dude, man, like, I'm gonna be in a good place, you know, all I was saying to Nas was,

we gotta have that hip hop soul, bro. You know, cause I watch documentaries. I'm like, this is mad generic right now. We know this. Everybody, people notice all this information. We don't need to go through this. Let's get into different stories. And that's what I wanted to do with this.

And he was like, got it. And he just started working and making sure that the direction took the right direction. Because we know, yeah, it was the Bronx. And we know there was dancers. And we know graffiti. We know that already we there's more stories to us than that you know to me the soul comes from your footage yes you know what I mean like your footage throughout gives it that warmth yes makes it you know classic yeah yeah nah I mean and I'm I'm super happy that you know that we still have the footage because I thought about that too when you whenever you show the room I'm always thinking about what if he'd have lost all of that the way rizzo lost all

that right back in the day right yeah yeah rizzo you know lost so many of his masters but you know we've been in the last one thing about the pandemic is it got me to be around and really work on digitizing all of this content so i just was was like, yo, I got to get this done. And we started a nonprofit, the Video Music Box Collection, and we started raising money for it. And, you know, and people started, you know, giving us a couple of dollars. We're still raising money for it.

I still need money for it. People give me some money. But that is what helped us get to the point where we have, you know, you can look at this content and be like, wow, that's pretty clear, you know, from 30 years ago. You know, you remember the DVD days and all of that. You know, there's guys out there that can have content. That is super important, man.

Restore it. Take care of it. Our history, hip-hop history is important. Black history is important. But, you know, sometimes our stuff just gets pushed to the side. There's been so many masters and visuals that have been lost over the years. And it's like, wait a minute, somebody just threw that away? Right.

Because they didn't think it was important? Like, who did that? You know, happens all the time. You think there'll be a part two since you said you do have a lot of footage that you weren't even able to use for this one? Yeah, I told Showtime, like, yo, we could do two or three more, you know, and some other stories that we got in the books.

So that's on the plate for 2022. I would like to see artists talk about those moments more. Like, I want to just hear Nas go more in-depth on the Big thing, because he said something in The Doctrine I didn't know. He was like, yo, him and Big were supposed to start a crew called The Goodfellas. And I was like, but damn, didn't him and Jay, weren't they gonna start the commission, Big didn't know. He was like, yo, him and Big were supposed to start a crew called the Goodfellas.

And I was like, but damn, didn't him and Jay, weren't they going to start the commission, Big and Jay? So I'm like, what would that have looked like? Looking at all the footage, you ever see people in the crowd, you'd be like, look at that artist. Now they're a huge rapper. Look at this person. You ever see some of those?

Yeah. You know, I had that conversation with Jay Cole because he went to st john's university and was a fan of video music box when he was at st john and jay cole was like man you know you know i came to your parties i came to your events i know who you are you know and this is a young guy and i was like i knew who's music i was familiar with and i was like yo i appreciate you man you coming up, same thing with A$AP Rocky. You know, he's like, yo, man, I gotta call my mom.

I'm standing next to Ralph McDaniels right now. You know, and A$AP Ferg, I knew his dad. You know, so I see these people in the, at their young stage and now to watch, like I did this interview with Ferg and I was like, yo, bro, you doing some amazing things, building furniture and cars and all, you know, like that's what we did this for,

for that to happen. Gotcha. I saw JD. I saw JD and some footage with Houdini on the dock. I use that footage all the time, too. Do you get paid every time I use your footage? Yes. Because they're you.

Okay. Yeah, they're licensed. I know enough to do that. How do you want Video Music Box to be remembered? The whole idea of this, you're watching Video Music Box film be remembered? The whole idea of this You're Watching Video Music Box film was to not be forgotten because I could easily see how our history is forgotten and the importance of us just giving an artist a little bit of a break,

a little bit of three minutes of a music video or a shout-out is what catapulted all of these artists that we now know and love into stardom and making a whole bunch of money. And there's certain people, whenever they call, you should always pick up that phone and say, yes, what do you need me for? And you're one of those people, Ralph McDaniel. So we just want to put that out there too.

Yes, thank you so much. Thank you. Uncle Ralph. Uncle Ralph, we appreciate you for joining us. Make sure y'all go watch that documentary on Showtime, man. Definitely. It's on Showtime On Demand right now. You're watching Video Music Box.

It's Uncle Ralph, Ralph McDaniels. It's The Breakfast Club. Good morning. Let's go. It's time to wake up. It's The Breakfast Club. It's going down. Angela Yee here.

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We are The Breakfast Club. We're talking de-crackifying institutions. De-crackification. De-crackification. If you saw my show this past Friday on Comedy Central, The God's Honest Truth premiered this past Friday at 10 o'clock and comes on each and every Friday. We talked about de-crackification.

Let's play a clip of me explaining what de-crackification is. De-crackification. Defined by this, the God's Honest Dictionary as the act of ridding a system of its tired ass, racist ass, white supremacist bulls**t. Now, was de-Nazification a perfect solution to fixing Germany? No. But not celebrating racists was a step in the right direction to actual healing. Will de-crackifying America be easy?

Hell no. Because America really, really worships its bigots. And I mean, look, it can be done. It happened in germany like i like i just explained they got rid of you know pretty much all nazi ideology from you know everything from culture to education the politics america has never even taken a step to do that because we still celebrate races we still celebrate bigots by having their names on buildings by having highways named after them. And to me,

you know, if you have, you know, a name like J. Edgar Hoover, who's still on the FBI building, that means that his ideologies still live in that building, which we're discussing this Friday on the God's Honest Truth, by the way. All right. What institutions do y'all think need to be

decracified? All right, well, let's go to the phone lines. Hello, who's this? Hi, this is a South Florida anonymous kid. I don't really want to say my name. I'm a local coach in the community, and a friend of mine went to a university, and her and several other basketball players have made statements against Lena or Ryan University. Basically, I tagged you guys on Instagram. If you could check, there's a release statement and a lawsuit against the university for basically kicking girls off the basketball program for speaking against racism.

Wow. See, that's insane to me. That's what I don't understand. So it's really intense. And, like, my friend's whole career was almost in shambles. I mean, right now she has other offers and everything, but she's developing this story with her lawyers

and with eight other basketball girls. So it's pretty big. It's on Instagram. I tagged you guys if you can look at it. And what's the name of the place? It's L-E-N-O-I-R Ryan University. Okay, we'll look it up. Alright mama, thank you. Hello, who's this? Hey, hey, hey, my name's It's L-E-N-O-I-R Ryan University Okay Well look it up

Alright mama Thank you Hello who's this? Hey hey hey My name My name's Yo Yeah no

Forget about my name But yo I'm from Hartford, Connecticut Peace and blessings to everybody Shout out Shout out Envy Shout out Charlamagne Shout out Yee

But um Crack ass cracker company In Hartford, Connecticut It's a garbage removal company But they trash too What I mean yo, I was the only black dude working in there. I was the only black dude working in there for like

I want to say, I ain't going to say how long ago I was working there, but like I said, I was the only black dude working there. They never brought no other person into the office. All the drivers that they had driving the trash trucks, they was all black, of course, but they had nobody in the office. They fired me over some dumbness. On top of that, I heard this

once where I never seen it myself, but I heard a story about how one of the drivers went into the garage to get their truck one day. Boom, it's a noose hanging right off their truck. He complained about it. Jesus Christ. He complained about it. Two weeks later, they doubled down on it, put a noose on both of the mirrors. And he couldn't say nothing about it after that.

Wow. So what's the name of that place again? All Ways. And when I say trash, I mean trash. Hello, who what's that name of that place again? All W-E-E. All right. And when I say trash, I mean trash. Hello, who's this? Hey, good morning. This is Royale. Royale, good morning. So I definitely agree with Charlamagne about that.

Pretty much, I think. There's a Bamboo Willie's on Pensacola Beach, Florida, that is very so racist. It's like a factory place that sells like bushwhackers. That's what they're known for. Okay. And they need to, you got to decrackify that place? Okay.

Yes. What happened? Okay. So this is what happened. Pretty much, he was on the beach. You know, my son, who is half white, must I say, and I'm a fully black woman. Well, he was on a different tantrum. So at that time, I took him to the bathroom of Bamboo Willie's to go and talk to him.

Well, there was two white women beaming on the door, trying to make it seem like I was abusing my son. And I'm like, what are you doing? And they're like, this ain't what you want to do. You need to let him out of there i was like um you need to mind your business i'm talking to my son i am the parent here that's right so the bartender who is a white male he runs in there bug-eyed like oh what's going on seeing them jumping all over me okay so they jumped you other guy no no slice physically like they was trying to but they're not going to intimidate me okay

and they was pretty much showing their white privilege and all this other stuff and and pretty much got the bartender on their side. They're out there talking it up, serving drinks and all this. They're intoxicated, obviously. Well, me and my sister, we walk up to ask them what the issue was in the bathroom. The supposed security who was talking to them like that was their friend is like screaming at my sister saying, get the F out of here. I'm going to get the police if you don't get the F out of here. Wow.

My nephew runs up. He was 16, fully black. He's like, nobody's going to touch my mother. Do not touch my mother. My father is not here to defend her. Do not. So he runs, gets the police. They're calling my nephew boy, talking about don't look this way, boy.

Lord have mercy. Are you boy. Lord have mercy. Lord have mercy. So fast forward, they get the police, but the police more so sided with me because it was like he could tell they were intoxicated and they was jumping over me for no reason. He was like, I'm a parent too. So I appreciate that. So the sheriff's department of Pensacola Beach. Wow.

But they definitely showed their white privilege. Well, that's why decraggification of this country has to happen. All right. Well, thank you, Mama. Thank you. And can I shout out my music on YouTube? Of course. Under World Queen 160 YouTube.

Look me up. Listen to my music. I appreciate y'all. Love y 160 YouTube. Look me up. Listen to my music. I appreciate y'all. Love y'all. Thank you. And I really want people to understand that there is a difference between GWPs, good white people, and crack-ass crackers. And you know, good white people, they don't like crack-ass crackers either. And they use their privilege to combat prejudice.

And we thank them for that. But it's going to take all hands on deck to really implement decrackification in this country. But America definitely needs to be decrackified. I guess that's the moral of the story. That is definitely the moral of the story. And you got to watch The God's Honest Truth every Friday night at 10 p.m. on Comedy Central. It's streaming on Paramount Plus right now, too, and it's on ComedyCentral.com. And you know we got the Decrackify America

t-shirts. All you gotta do is go to MyShopify.com. C2Show.MyShopify.com. Okay? And we got the Good White People t-shirts. So y'all need to go out. Y'all gotta claim your set, bro. For real. Get you a I'm a GWPA You Know Me t-shirt.

From C2Show.Myyshopify.com. All right. Well, we got rumors on the way. We got to talk about Karen Civil. It got real spicy over the weekend, so we'll break it down. What's up with KC? Also, shout out to Hampton University. H-U, the real H-U.

We busted Howard down. And I've seen all you guys. Real, your little cute Howard T-shirts because Kamala Harris came to the game. And, oh, you want to ride Howard all of a sudden. Well, you got your ass busted, so shout out to Hampton University. Pause, bro. What? You said they cute.

You said you riding them. You said you busted their ass. God damn. You heard all of that? Yeah. I write H-U. H-U? Rumors on the way is The Breakfast Club.

Good morning. The Breakfast Club. Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy, Angela Yee, Charlamagne Tha Guy. We are The Breakfast Club. Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy and Charlamagne the Guy. We are the Breakfast Club. We got some special guests joining us today. Yes, indeed. We have Stacey Tisdale. Welcome back. Happy New Year.

Happy New Year to you. It's a pleasure to be here. Nah, I'm going to mess up your last name. No, you're not. Hey, you did it right. I was practicing. You told me, and I was practicing. Say it again. No, I'm not saying it again. I got it right the first time. Ijeoma.

Ijeoma. Yeah, the I is like an E. Ijeoma. Ijeoma. Well, welcome. Happy New Year. Tell us how to make this money. They say you help people make money.

Tell us how to make this money. All right, slow down. Slow down. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. Wait, what? Okay, I was ready. I'm ready to teach people. She's ready.

She's ready. That's what I'm talking about. So, okay, so my name is Terry. I'm ready to teach people. She's ready. She's ready. That's what I'm talking about. So, okay. So my name is Terry. I teach people how to invest in stocks for income. And I'm so excited because I feel like people are ready for this now. Like 2020, everybody realized their finances weren't quite in order. Then 2021, they were like, okay, let me start paying off my debt a little bit.

Maybe invest long term. And now 2022, they're like, you know what? I got a little bit of savings. I have a little bit like invest long term and now 2022 they're like you know what i got a little bit of savings i have a little bit like ready to invest but i don't know what to do with it so that's where i come in what did you learn first what did you learn all of this because this is stuff that you know like you know charlamagne and i were talking behind the scenes they teach this to our kids now but we didn't have that knowledge so where did you learn how did you get into the love of stocks and making money?

Honestly, I'm similar. I was born with a single mother. We didn't know all this stuff either. But I went to a program in high school called LEED. And it was where they took kids from all over the U.S. that had good PSAT scores and then took us to business schools. So I went to Northwestern University and they took us to the Chicago Stock Exchange. So my senior year year i had learned at northwestern then google had their ipo and when they had their ipo i asked everybody asked my mom

i asked my teachers nobody knew how to invest and the shares were 83 dollars for google ipo imagine that man like now they're almost three thousand dollars like my whole life would have been different if we had known how to invest. So that got me excited. Then I went to MIT and said, well, I'm going to figure this out myself because nobody knew how to do it. Went to MIT.

So you never invested in Google? I didn't. Not till now. We wouldn't be sitting in here. Well, she doesn't have to sit in here anyway. But we wouldn't be sitting in here. And we didn't have money either. And it's so much more accessible now, too,

with all these apps that make it a lot easier for people to be able to trade, too. Definitely. And they don so much more accessible now too with all these apps that make it a lot easier for people to be able to trade too. Definitely. And they don't have costs now. So now you can get in without the high commission fees so you can trade for free. There's no barrier to entry now. And you've got a whole sea change here, especially

in our community and that's what's so exciting. You have 60% of blacks under 40 now invested in the stock market. And the gap is closing now. Yeah, the investment gap closed in the millennial generation. It's really making history. So we're starting this whole Invest in You campaign,

which we'll talk more about. Take your first trade challenge because we have participation now, but now we have to add education to that and teach people how the market works. And then we can really, particularly our community, cause a sea change if we just collect our forces and move them together. But I'm glad we're talking about this today because I was the first black and the first woman to report from the New York Stock Exchange way too long ago. And a lot of y'all new investors have never seen a bear market before. And we don't want you freaking out and pulling out in their bear market. So it's really important that we're having this conversation now. That's why I'm excited, too, because a lot of people were scared

coming into the last couple of weeks of like the first couple of weeks of January coming into 2022, the markets have been down. And if people are invested in stocks or crypto, they're hurting. Right. And so now I think they're scared. And then like seven people, black people are seven times more likely to pull out when it's bad. And you see all these articles that really scare you. They'd be like, Bitcoin is crashing. You know, we don't know how long this is going to be around.

And then some people doubt it. Other people have gotten rich off of it and been able to utilize it. So is it time to buy when you see everything falling? Yes. That's what Warren Buffett said. So one, time to buy when you see everything falling? Yes. That's what Warren Buffett said. So one, a lot of black people only think that you can make money in the stock when they're going up, but you can actually make a lot of money

when it's coming down. That's called short selling. Everybody says buy low, sell high. You can actually do that in other order. Like you can sell high first and then buy low second and still make the difference. Same thing, that's called short selling. Yesterday I made $46,000 because I was able to short sell. Well, we made money going up and then

on the way down before that, we made money going down. Can you walk us through a short sell? Yes. Say you borrowed my cell phone and then you sold it to DJ Envy for a thousand dollars. Now you go on eBay and you find the same phone for $500. Well, you sold it for $1,000. You sold it high. But then you bought it back low for $500. You got to keep $500. Does that make sense? But all in one day?

You can do it over time. Okay. It's trading just the same way. You can trade in a day. But it's the same exact stock that you, okay. Yeah. So like, for example, if a lot of people were in Tesla recently, if they had sold at $1,200 and then when it came back down to a thousand, they could make that difference.

And then you pay taxes, right? You do pay taxes, but it's the same as you pay taxes on any job. So like I paid myself a salary from my course. It took out forty one percent. Right. Trust me, we know our taxes up here are crazy. But you can reinvest back. If you reinvest and don't take it out of the stock market and put it somewhere else, then you don't have to pay taxes.

How does that work? Well, that's the same for real estate. Real estate is like that. You could buy a house, sell it. As long as you put it back into another property, you ain't got to pay tax at that moment. Exactly. But with stocks, you do still have to pay. Any realized gains, you're going to have to pay taxes.

You pay tax on what you earn. But I think just to take a step back for a second, there's a difference between trading and investing. And a lot of us, we talk about the stock market. And I've always talked about the stock market as a great long term investment, which it is over time averaged about 10 percent a year, which means like if you would have invested $100 at the start of this pandemic and left it alone and not added anything else to it, it would have been $180.

A general rule of thumb for investing is that any money that you will not need in five years or less should be in stocks and you should look at it long-term. And that's when you want to build like a comfortable retirement and create financial security. Trading, what Terry is talking about, is very different. And that's where we need, you know, people like her and people with her skills to walk us through that.

She actually gives people a trading plan and a risk management plan. And I think that's why her course has sold over $40 million, you know, made over $40 million in sales. Your course made over $40 million in sales? It did. I'm the number one investing course on Teachable. Well, number one course, period, out of hundreds of thousands of courses. And it's on investing, how to invest for income. All right, now keep it locked.

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like you've never heard her before. Listen to On Purpose with Jay Shetty on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy, Angela Yee, Charlamagne Tha Guy. We are The Breakfast Club. We're still kicking it with Terry Egioma and Stacey Tisdale. Charlamagne? Let me ask you a rich-ass question, right? For the average listener that's listening right now,

our audience, and they want to invest, right? I think i read a study where it's like over 50 percent of all americans are living paycheck to paycheck how do they do that so i think that there's prerequisites to when you start investing versus trading okay i think as a as an investor so like i saw you all had uyl and market monday and wall street trapper yeah love all of them when them. And they teach long-term investing. When you're investing, you can invest with any amount. Like if you have a hundred dollars, hey, go buy SOXL or AMD, whatever. Educational purposes only, not recommended stuff. But if you're a trader, you're going to have to try to make a percentage of the cash you have. So I try to teach people to make one percent of their cash amount. So I think you do need about two thousand dollars in your account.

That's why I said now in 2022, I feel like people are ready. I feel like they've done the long term investing and now they have some money saved up and they want to make that work versus just putting it in a savings account. So then it's like, OK, well, how do I pay for the things that I want versus the things that I just have to settle for so for example how do you pay for I saw you had change for change how do you pay for your rent going up because of inflation how do you pay for a guy had a had a hurricane there was a hurricane Ida you guys gave him money well how do you pay for emergencies or daycare I saw one of the girls she had like eighteen hundred dollars she was paying for daycare like how do you trade the money you have

to pay for those things so i do think it takes you have to start with money at least two thousand in your account and then your goal as a trader is going to be to make one percent of that on a regular basis i'm glad you said that because a lot of a lot of people just think you can i don't know what they think but you gotta have money to even do these things for trading, for investing you can invest in anything there's apps now that you can invest long term

when it comes to trading you're hearing all these stories of people hearing like get rich quick the whole GameStop thing and they're doing things like taking out credit card debt and spending their whole life savings to try to get in on this trading thing. One, you should never do it without an education or a guide. Yeah, getting all of that.

And also, never trade more money than you can afford to lose. It's like gambling. It is like gambling. We should talk about how to make it not gambling. There are ways to protect your risk, but a lot of people just don't know about them. Oh, please bring that down. Yeah.

So a big part of my trade and travel class is risk management. First step is I'm a technical analysis trader. So I'm not just betting on something or not even use the word bet, but investing in something. It's not just a tip and you're like, let's go. Right. My grandmama said at the barbershop, you know, like, no, it's actually looking at healthy companies. So first, that's one big part of it.

What companies are you investing in? Then we have to look at reward to risk ratio. So I'm looking at charts. I am a technical analysis trader. I hear a lot of people say like, oh, charts are too hard. I don't look at that. But if you want to have high probability,

you know, I'm an MIT girl. Like we like, did y'all ever see the movie 21? 21 it was about MIT group that went in card counted and then But like one of the things he says is he's like we don't gamble we just take really high probability Calculated moves and that's what we're doing with charts. That's how you get more high probability calculated trades. So looking at your reward to risk in advance, you can actually calculate on a chart. When I get into this trade, the probability that I do well is three times. My reward is three times my risk. Then the other part of it is there's something called a stop loss, like being

able to put in a certain. Yes. And that says and I know you have an investing club, so you know this. But if it drops to a certain place, you can get out of the trade. I think a lot of people are getting into stuff with no exit strategy. Right. And then. And it's an automatic thing, too. Like once it gets to this certain point, it'll pull out. Yeah.

It'll let you know to pull out. If you have that stop loss in advance, you can calculate how much you're willing to lose. Trade and travel came from you traveling and trading. So can you talk about that? Yes, I was in education. My last job before I quit was assistant principal of elementary school, but I was miserable. But anyway, I decided that my exit strategy would be investing

because I had learned about it in college. I had learned about it in high school. Yeah. And all I needed was $300 a day to replace my income. And you started with, that's what's really important when we're talking about trading. She had a goal. Okay, I need to earn $300 a day. So that's how much she was going to risk.

But also, one of the things that's so touching about you is you also wanted to trade because to cover your parents' medical costs. Yeah. Well, let me finish this because I want to tell you about the trade and travel. Like, I was finally able to quit my job and start traveling around the world, and people started asking me, well, how are you affording it?

And it was I was trading stocks. I would trade to pay for the hotel room. I would trade, okay, my flight is 300, or actually, like, let's say I wanted to go to Greece. I calculated all this on Instagram. Like, if y'all scroll way down on Terry Giomaoma like the the trip to Greece was $3,500 so I traded to get there wow I said okay this is how much the hotel room is if I can make you know $400 pay for the hotel now I'm gonna want to eat when I get there so I'm gonna trade to pay for the food and that's

how I I traveled and I was gone I went to South Korea Thailand for the food. And that's how I traveled. And I was gone. I went to South Korea, Thailand for a month, Vietnam for a month, Australia. But all that time, just trading what I needed to pay for the travel. And now people ask me to teach them. And now I'm teaching them, how do you trade for what you want? I love the fact that you didn't stay in a job

that you hated. Because what happens is you'll grow resentment. And you was with kids. So you'll grow resentment and you was you was with kids so you'd have been projecting all of that on those kids so i really i really respect that part of this thank you and i feel like i was because i remember this one little i had mainly black black and brown this one little hispanic girl she was the cutest one day she must have seen me crying in the bathroom she came and gave me this flower that she had made in class. And she just gave me the biggest hug.

I know they saw it. Well, hopefully I was masking it good enough. But you knew when to exit, though. Yeah. That's why you're a good trader. Exactly. And honestly, those skills helped you develop a course as well. You know what?

The biggest things that helped me develop the course were my mistakes. When I first quit my job and was traveling full time, I'm not going to pretend like it went well all the time. Like when I first quit, I had my biggest loss ever. I invested in Pandora and Pandora stock just went straight down. But at the time, everybody says, invest with what you know. And I was it was on my phone and Pandora was going inside of the TV. And this is like Pandora stock is not around anymore because they sold to Sirius XM.

So you can do this. Right. But like every like I woke up overnight. I had traded earnings thinking I was going to be rich the next day. Woke up the next day and I had lost twenty six thousand in a day. And for educator like I didn't have a ton of money, so I was crying thinking I had to go back to work. And the thing was,

I realized all the things I had done wrong. My quantity size was too high. This is back to risk management. Quantity size. I had 8,000 shares. And the thing was, I thought I was going to be rich the next day, so 8,000, if I make a dollar, I got... No, but I lost. And so overnight it was down three

dollars i'm down twenty four thousand so that that first lesson is don't uh do what you can't afford to lose yes and watch your quantity size and your quantity size in the course i actually have a formula how do you calculate your quantity size then another thing that i did wrong was um not having the stop loss it fell and I didn't have any protection. Then I didn't have a plan of, okay, when I didn't even have a target in mind. So once it started falling, I just flipped out. I called my mom, was like, I'm going to have to get a job again. And I just let it go and it kept falling.

That's what you have to watch out for. And you start thinking maybe it's going to go back up. Right. That's why you need a trading plan so that you're not managed by your guts and emotion, but you know the steps. The biggest money, hopefully more will come another day,

but the biggest money flow I had in my life was when I worked at a technology firm and they gave us stock options. I remember overnight I was like a millionaire on paper and these options went to whatever, but I, and I wasn't familiar with them, but I had no plan in place. And it started dropping and dropping and you just get that mentality. Oh, it'll go back up. Oh, it'll do whatever went to nothing. There's a lot of people that are, that's, that's happening to them right now, especially with crypto and even some stocks. They've been told so long to just buy and hold, which is over time a good strategy.

But what what do you do for your life right now? You're rich on paper, but you're broken your real life. And that's why trading is important, because we can help you to fund things in your life right now while the other things are still working. All right. Now, keep it locked. We have more with Terry E. Gioma and Stacey Tisdale.

So don't move. It's the Breakfast Club. Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy, Angela Yee, Charlamagne Tha Guy. We are the Breakfast Club. We're still kicking it with Terry Egioma and Stacey Tisdale. Now, how much is your course? How much is the lesson?

It's $5,000. I have a VIP eight-week program that's $5,000. But you can get in for half of that at twenty five and we have payment plans. Now, I saw something and correct me if I'm wrong. You made over sixteen thousand people millionaires. Oh, that just. No. All together.

We've all those sixteen thousand people in the course are making millions. And they actually like show us screenshots of how they realize profit. And and they're like showing us. So we have this thousand000 in a day club. If they make over $1,000 in a day, they send us their screenshots, send us their trade, and then we send them a plaque. So we know that we've had over 1,600 in that club that we've like sent plaques to and many more that just haven't sent in the screenshots.

So we know if you've got even 1,000 people making $1,000 in a day, then that's a million dollars that we thousand dollars in a day then that's a million dollars that we can generate in a day from trade and travel now for people who are like this is expensive can you explain why it's worthwhile because the classes that i took were thirty thousand dollars so the actual investing knowledge is actually really expensive this is a discount to that so when you look at the like what other classes are out there some people will say well what about youtube so my granny told me sometimes you have to pay for convenience like yes you can go to youtube but it might take you a lot of time you may not know what

exactly you need you're getting too much information yeah what's true what's not so this is all into one class i've already detailed out what you need in terms of how do you pick the right company what's the risk management how do you do charting how do you do short selling to make money on the way down how do you do gaps and glow backs how do you trade options like everything's in there it's actually not much when you look at the other courses out there and then think about how much you can actually make right a lot of the students within a couple you can trade to pay for it so fat yeah that's why I asked you about the 16,000 cuz those success stories are important because people will hear that number and be like

well she made 40 million dollars who is she made rich she's just hustling yeah yeah well and several of them have become millionaires I do know some that I have made millions but I just don't I don't want to say like I don't want to say oh yeah I made a whole bunch millionaires no I've taught a lot of people how to make $300 in a day, $200 in a day. Which is good money. And it's about those goals. And you do have to do the work, too.

You can't take the course and not do the work. Goals and freedom. And I know when you first started trading, one of your goals was that you're like your mother couldn't afford anesthesia. Oh, yeah. Back to what? Yes. Dignity. So anybody here had to ever do a like really expensive yeah, back to what? Yes, the dignity. Anybody here had to ever do

a really expensive medical thing? Like what? Operation? Pay for an operation? For my mom, it was her dental work. She had to get all her teeth taken out and it was really expensive. Most insurance only cover maybe $1,000 for

root canal. If you pay for somebody's cosmetic it costs a lot that's out the pocket either well cosmetic and just like she was in pain but the doctor had told her that they were gonna do the surgery without anesthesia oh yeah no way not because i thought she couldn't afford it they were like oh well you know anesthesia is gonna cost you like an extra five hundred dollars the nurse was basically telling my mom like well you can't get this surgery because you can't afford it. And my mom, because I had actually given her money for her medical bills, was able to say, no, that's fine. I'm going to get all four of them done at one time.

And she told me, Terry, she called me something else, but she told me, Terry, money can't buy you happiness, but it can buy you dignity. I was able to be in that chair and speak up for myself because I could afford the surgery. How time consuming is it to trade? It depends what your goal is. So if your goal is to make $200 in a day and your account size is okay, you might be done in 15 minutes. But I do say people should, especially in the beginning, you should budget at least four hours a day. If you can't do that, like as you start getting better and better, it'll go down. Like some people, they'll do one hour in the beginning of the market and they'll trade that or they'll trade that last hour of the market. I do think like when I was an educator, I would look at my phone in the beginning of the day. I'd go do

whatever I had to do as a principal, come back, check it at my phone in the beginning of the day. I'd go do whatever I had to do as a principal, come back, check it at, because you can trade on your phone. I would check it at lunchtime. That didn't take long. And then at the end of the day at night, before I went to bed, that's where I would do my real homework of looking at the stocks, looking at the news, looking at the charts, and then I'd be ready for the next day. Right. So when they open in the morning, you know what you want. Yep. So what's the call to action? I know we're here for a call to action today. I'm going to teach people how to actually get invested and take the first trade. Okay. Because I feel like there's a lot of people

that are just scared and they haven't done it yet. And they're looking for like, okay, I need somebody to like a teacher to like walk me through step by step. So we're going to do a five day challenge. And for five days live, I'm going to be with the ladies and we're going to like teach people, okay, how do you open your account how do you place the trade how do you exit the trade and this is so you can get the income but so that when google comes by the next person they won't miss it like i did they'll know how to actually get in and out yeah the actual challenge starts january 31st and you can go to takeyourfirsttrade.com and start signing up now. And it's a five day challenge. And like Terry said, we're going to the first day, you're going to learn how to open up

an account. Then we're going to teach you a little bit about the markets on the second day. Then you're going to learn how to buy a stock, learn a little bit more. And on the fifth day, you're actually going to sell a stock. And does it cost anything to sign up for the five day challenge? It actually does. It costs $55. Okay. Yeah. We made it super, super low, but we wanted to make sure that people did do some investment because you actually are more dedicated when you pay something than if you don't do it. They say that about online dating too.

They definitely do. Give them your website again so people can get in touch with you and maybe they want the full course. Yeah. If you want the whole trade and travel course, go to tradeandtravel.com. Tradeandtravel.com. But if you want to get started

with this five-day challenge, which I'm doing too, by the way, because I'm more of a long-time investor, so I haven't done trading. I think you're going to love it. And you don't have to have all of your money in one or the other. You can do both.

Right, yeah. I want to be diverse. So just take a little bit out, and then you can learn how to make some income with a little bit of it. And as you become a better trader, then you can decide to move more there. What's the website again? TakeYourFirstTrade.com And if you want to see more about me, yeah, everything is on Trade and Travel. So YouTube, Trade and Travel, Instagram.

It's Trade, T-R-A-D-E and all spelled out travel on Instagram too. I actually put, I made a million dollars in a day so I put up the screenshot of that too so they can see how you do that in Instagram. Alright, I'm in. We're in. So are you guys going to take your first trade challenge? I am. And you said we should have at least

$2,000, right? I got somebody that does it for me. You know what? You know what it is? I'll be honest with you, right? I always feel like I go to professionals to do something. So I hire people to do certain things, right?

Because I can't watch it. Like, I got too many things. So I hire people to look at my stocks. I hire people to look at real estate. I hire people to do different things

because I don't have the time. But that's more of an investing than a trading. This is New Year, right? It's all making money. Yeah. The whole thing about the stock market is, you know, do your long-term investing and leave the trading for the professionals. But everything changed as, you know, trading became more mainstream and technology changed everything.

And people are trading now. And now what they have to do is do it with some education, do it with some guidance. And that's why when people hear things like $5,000 for a course, think of it as school. You're actually learning how to trade. Because there's so many people that get people. That's the reason why we even started doing the real estate seminars, because people were charging people so much money,

but not teaching them stuff. And then saying, okay, after you get to this point, you need another $1,000 for this and another another and that's why we started teaching people how to do real estate the way that we do it and we're not charged we charge 99 and we just really only charging for the venue and it's a great it was a great thing what you're doing with real estate investing i know you get a lot of people that charge people a lot of money and don't really get them give them anybody and i'm sure people come to you and be like i went to this person's course and i learned nothing and that's what makes me happy so much when they say they come, they go to another person's course and learn nothing.

And then they come to your course and be like, I learned so much. Yes. That's why I'm excited that I have so many students that I have because it's word of mouth. Terry is just such an example of what investing can do. She's living her best life and she's paying it forward. She doesn't have to do this. We had a nice conversation the other day. I was asking her, why is she doing this? I was looking at this $40 million house that she's renting in Puerto Rico.

And she's building another one. And I'm like, why are you still doing this? And she was like, this is my fun. Yeah, this is my ministry. I went to seminary. She's got a preacher here. So I feel like this is my ministry, who I can actually help. Well, leave us on a prayer.

Want me to pray for real? Absolutely. Don't turn down no prayer. Throw some money in there, too. Don't hang on you, nobody. Let me get the tray. You pray whatever's on your heart. But you can throw some money in there, too.

We got it. Well, real quick, dear Heavenly Father, I just pray for everybody who is listening and under the sound of my voice. Lord God, please, Lord, just continue to bless them with wisdom, bless them with understanding, Lord. And then just your, your word says that you will be everything that we need. You will supply everything that we need. So Lord, I just ask that everybody lean on you and then continue to bless them financially, health, security,

just everything in Jesus name. We dearly pray. Amen. Amen. Amen. And take care for us. Thank you so much. Terry, it's your, my Stacy Tisdale, my dearly pray. Amen. Amen. Amen. Thank you for joining us. Thank you so much. Terry Adjiyama, Stacey Tisdale, my partner in Wealth Wednesdays. We're getting ready to start this trading and make this shmoney. Alright, it's the Breakfast Club. Good morning. This don't be a donkey, because right now you want some real donkeys.

It's time for Donkey of the Day. So if you ever feel I need to be a donkey, man, hit it with the heel. Did she get donkey in the name please, Deli? Absolutely. I have become donkey of the day. That's a breakfast club, bitches. You're a donkey.

I feel bad. I really feel bad. I feel bad. We were talking about Squid Game behind the scenes and we all finished it. We didn't realize our guy Nick didn't finish it. Y'all don't care. I didn't know. I told you guys all morning he didn't finish it.

He walked out earlier saying that, okay, you can talk about Squid Game when I leave the room. But that's after we already spoiled it. That's right. Anyway, the dog here today goes to a 43-year-old man named Kevin William Teague. Okay, Kevin is from the Michigan area. And I swear in my old age, I'd just be feeling sorry for people. I'm serious. I used to come in here and just want to give people the credit they deserve for being stupid. But when I hear certain stories like this one today, I feel bad for people. I'm serious. I used to come in here and just want to give people the credit they deserve for being stupid.

But when I hear certain stories like this one today, I feel bad for Kevin. Because clearly, clearly something is wrong. We have to recognize when mentally someone is not what they need to be. And I have empathy for those people. I just do. Because I think some things are just out of their control. Some things are above them. And I truly feel like this is one of those situations.

Now, with that said, Kevin is a home invader. Okay? If you wake up in the middle of the night and a stranger is in your house, doesn't matter what his or her mental or emotional state is, they're probably getting shot. Okay? Well, at least in my house. All right?

Now, I will send him and his family healing energy after the fact. But, hey, that person made a choice to break into my house. I don't have time to figure out if they're mentally unwell. Now, that has nothing to do with the story I'm about to tell you because Kevin broke into someone's house and he lived to tell about it. In fact, he didn't just live to tell about it. He lived to ask the police for help. Uncle Charlotte, Brother Leonard, what are you talking about?

He lived to ask the police for help after breaking into someone's house. Well, let's go to Newsnet for the report, please. A Michigan State Police trooper from the Cadillac Post responded to a breaking and entering complaint at a home on West Ridge Drive in Williamsburg. The homeowner reported she was watching television in the living room when she saw a man enter the room. She originally thought it was her husband. However, when she saw a man enter the room. She originally thought it was her husband. However, when she realized it wasn't, she screamed. Her husband came downstairs and told the man to leave. The trooper searched the area and located the suspect, 43-year-old Kevin William Teague, from Williamsburg in the backyard of his parents' home nearby. When the

trooper attempted to speak with Teague, he fled into the woods. Later that evening, Teague called 911 to report he was lost. When troopers arrived, Teague flagged them down, and he was taken into custody and lodged in the Grand Traverse County Jail. Teague was arraigned for one count breaking and entering without permission and one count resisting and obstructing police. He was given a $1,000 bond and his next scheduled court appearance is on October 26th. There is a phrase, God watches over babies and fools. Babies maybe, it's possible. Okay,

God isn't a babysitter per se, but he will give the mother the strength to hold it down. But watches over, not watches. It's a difference, all right? The fool's part, I don't know about that. Because, Kevin, I don't know if that was God watching over him or just the luck of the draw. Okay, it's great Kevin didn't get shot in these people's house, but why would God be involved in this? Why would God have sent this fool, all right,

to break into someone's house and then have him run off into the woods and get lost and then this man felt like he could just call the police because he was lost never mind the fact he just committed a whole crime never mind the fact he was in the woods hiding because of a crime he just committed i'm gonna call the police and tell them i'm lost you don't think they're gonna have questions on why you just randomly in the woods at this time of night? What you going to tell them? You're camping? Huh? You're hunting? Just taking a walk? Y'all do realize narcissism is considered a mental disorder, correct? Because there is no way you commit a crime and then think you are able to call the police because you're lost.

If you're not a narcissist. All right. I honestly, I can't even continue this story until we play a game of guess what race it is maybe this will give us a better understanding of this situation okay kevin william t 43 years old broke into someone's house lived to tell about it fled into the woods then had the audacity the unmitigated gall to call 9-1-1 to report that he was lost angela yee guess what race he is well i'm gonna have to say he is caucasian what makes you say caucasian angela well you know we don't call 9-1-1 like that and then he probably said i didn't know you couldn't do that in the words of dave

chappelle all right kevin william teague 43 years old broke into someone's house and fled into the woods then called 9-1-1 to report that he was lost dj envy rashawn yes what race it is i'm distraught on this one why are you distraught all right because it's i'm in the middle right i'm gonna tell you why right at first dominican no i'm in the middle, right? I'm going to tell you why. Because you're Dominican? No, I'm not Dominican. I'm black. But I was thinking black at first because I can see a black person getting stuck in the woods and then hearing animals and being like, nah,

F that. I'm calling 911 to get out. Okay. But if we did something illegal, we just try to sit in the woods, thug it out with them bears. Thug it out with them bears because we ain't calling no police. I'd rather be with these bears than be in jail. Yes, thug it out with them bears. Thug it out with them bears because we ain't calling no police. I'd rather do it with these bears than be in jail. Yes, I got to go with Caucasian. Okay, well, I want Angelina and DJ Envy to know that you both are correct!

Kevin William Teague is a Caucasian. He had to call Gassidy, the unmitigated white privileged gall, to break into someone's house, run into the woods, get lost and then call the police to help him. And his bond is only $1,000 for breaking and entering without permission and resisting and obstructing police. And he resisted and obstructed police without getting shot.

Well, if you just said that, I definitely wouldn't. I know, I didn't want to give that one away. Please give Kevin William Teague the biggest hee-haw. Matter of fact, let Kathy Griffin get some of that. Please give this giant jar of mayo the biggest hee-haw. Chelsea Handler? What Chelsea Handler at?

Hee-haw, hee-haw. That is way too much Dan Mayonnaise. There you go. The Breakfast Club. Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy, Angela Yee, Charlamagne Tha Guy. We are The Breakfast Club. We got a special guest in the building.

I don't know if we call him a young legend or just a legend. You know what I mean? He's a staple in this game. He's an old man with a young face. An old man with a young face. Marlon Wayans is here. What's up, my brother? What's up, man?

How you doing? Never not working. You know what? I would have been a damn good slave. I swear to God. I'm like, I got all this cotton. Y'all chill. I got this.

They would have gave me a raise. And then you came in here exhausted, like literally. Like you sat down and you was like. Then he perked up. Bones hurt, man. I had shoulder surgery three weeks ago. I've just been, you know, because from doing stand-up so much, I got arthritis, bursitis, and tendonitis and a tear all in the shoulder.

So I was doing that stand-up, doing nine, ten shows a week, and that wears it out. So I just got it reconstructed. I'm ready. I'm back on that stage, and I'm actually going to be in New York this weekend at the Gotham Comedy Club just working out. You might have to get one of those mics that just attach on

or something like that. Why? The Janet Jackson headset joint. Yeah, but I don't want both hands free. I like the microphone. It's a prop. But what about your shoulder? It makes sense. It's a club. You can knock somebody's head with it. It could be a dick. You can make it whatever you want. A dildo. You know what I mean? A wand.

A sword. So I like having the mic because that's the beauty of imagery. You have a mic, you have a light, you have a stool. Give me some drunk people, I can make them laugh anywhere. You think stand-up is a lost art? No, I think it's the found art. I think it's the only place you're going to be safe to say what the f*** you feel. Soon everybody's going to need a stage.

You're going to need a stage. I don't trust that either. When they cancel it, f*** you. You say it on stage, you good. I don't think you're good on stage no more either i think you i think you just got you can't you just can't get on stage you think so yeah you're good on stage because that's what they come to see you when people cancel you for a joke those people that cancel you ain't give a about you in the first place people that love you they come for the crazy that you say they want you to say the everybody else is scared to say.

So, you know, I think it's a lost but a found art form. I love stand-up. As much as I'm doing this drama stuff and I do my movies and my TV shows, stand-up, you know, that's my passion. That's my freedom every week. And I just get to express and talk and find it, you know. And I've been doing it so long now. I just got a special drop in

XIX yeah on a 19 on HBO max called you know what it is and then I already got a brand new two three hours I'm with right now. Well, let's talk about it cuz we did get an advanced screener So, you know, I had a chance to watch it and you did address your cheating scandal. Oh, yeah That happened. Yeah that happened You went right into making it hot ass. What are you talking about? You opened the water at the right time. I can't have my A.V. water. I can't have my Angela Yee juice.

We all right in the chain. How about we start with a gay baby or something, you know? Let's start with Addy Belly Buttons. Work our way into the end there. Yes, I did. Yeah, but I guess that's something that you kind of Have to do right You don't have to a lot of people

It's hard not to though because people think about it And then it also is like you've said You can make anything funny Well that's part of my healing process So you know as much as I can make anything funny to me That's good But honestly

You know I'm glad that God gave me a microphone because I get to talk about my truth. And as long as you talk about your truth, you can't hurt or offend others. You know, the person that was in it with you, you know, we laugh about it. And just like my my best friend, my ride or die. I love that woman to death. Now, we don't have sex, but still, she got the card, she got the house.

Her house better than mine. I'd be jealous. And we never went to court to talk about those kind of things. That's my family. I love her for life. But, man, I f*** up. One thing that people have to think about, too, when something like that happens,

what about the kids? What do the kids have to say to you when you come home because they see everything online? You know, because the kids feel for mommy you know because we make stupid excuses first thing i said was and i know i was on a boat with another woman but you get seasick i would have had you there but you don't like bows. But we not know what you're having. I swear I was making a joke. You said a mermaid. You say dumb shit, man.

I was like, and I said, this is true. I said, the dumbest shit. I got caught. I said, and I said, I know there's pictures with one girl, but there was like seven others on the boat. You should have seen this s*** that was happening down below. But it's not, it was funny

to me, and I was able to make her laugh at the time, but I felt like s***, man. It's like, you know, there's no amount of sorries you can say except for n***a, you are sorry. I'm a sorry- for n***a. You are sorry. I'm a sorry ass n***a. My bad.

And that's something that you're going to regret for the rest of your life. You think your success took a shot at you because you're so famous that they're taking pictures of you on a boat? Nah. Actually, that was the first time I felt successful. I thought... I was like, n***a, I don't need to be made. On a boat?

Hey, n***a, look at my ass right there. That one ass. It wasn't a fly picture either. And it wasn't like a cool picture. I had floaties. I didn't know how to swim that well. I had those little, you know those things they put on kids on? I had floaties.

I had one of them little boys. And that's what happens when you're famous, when you fly places. I wasn't that famous. You just made $100 million. I'm just now getting famous. My fame is just now starting. You done had a sitcom or a network TV. You know, like, come on, bro.

All this Netflix stuff. Come on, bro. But still, all that was like building up to, you know, this Netflix stuff. Come on, bro. But still, all that was like building up to this new shit. This is where my best years are ahead of me. I always say first 30 was learning. And now these next 30 is executing. I still got a young face. Do you still have Google Alerts for yourself?

Yeah, I got Google Alerts. I say dumb shit all the time. So if they don't cancel me, I want to know when they're going to cancel me. You can't get canceled if you don't know what's going on. I don't want to know what's going on. I don't have it either. That's the worst. You wake up like, what do you mean I'm canceled?

It ain't your birthday, you got 150 messages. That's right. That's how you know something happened when you wake up in the morning. I need to know. I need to know. I want to know. I had to know. I want to know. I had to call my brothers and say, Can y'all do a press conference for me?

Does Keenan even know what that is? No, Keenan and David don't even deal with Twitter. They don't deal with it. Keenan tell you they tried canceling. They can't cancel me. I already canceled myself. I don't need to be on their networks. Keaton, funny, like, my brothers don't

subscribe. That's why they don't tweet. They don't Instagram. They don't do all that because they're just like, why put yourself out there to be a target? I don't get paid to post pictures. I get paid to do movies. That's true. If I'm going to get canceled, I'll be doing

on a stage. At least I'm getting paid to do the show. That's my last you know, so if I'm going to get canceled, let it be doing, you know, on a stage. I guess I'm getting paid to do the show. That's my last check. Make it a good one. All right, we got more with Marlon Wayans when we come back. Don't move. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning.

Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy, Angela Yee, Charlamagne Tha Guy. We are the Breakfast Club. We're still kicking it with Marlon Wayans. Yee. Did you take anything out of this special? Because there were some edgy things on there where even I was like... This is one

joke that I really love that I took out. I didn't want to, but HBO Max was like, listen. They were like... What was it about? Just that one. Okay. You want to stand up to do it? Are you good? No, no.

Okay, so... You can't get cancer if you're standing up now. You can't get up to do it? Are you good? No, no. Hold on. Okay, so. You can't get cancer if you're standing up now. You can't get cancer if you're sitting down. The views by Marlon are not the views of the breakfast club. Now go ahead. Oh, yeah. Oh. That's up.

Angie's juice inspired this joke. And Envy's water. And Charlamagne's book. Actually, I got out of Charlamagne's third book alright so it was it was cause I talk about my

my daughter and I talk about her being gay and how acceptance right and how love is acceptance and you know at the end of the day

the message is always about love and acceptance that's my child and I try to speak to fathers out there who are especially old school point of views like yo i'm not accepting my kids in in that life and it's like at the end of the day it's still your kid and i talked about how i went to performing arts high school and to this day i still have gay friends and i still you know hang out with my gay friends and when you know and that's why i consulted it when it was time for me to find figure out like what to do with my daughter i sat my gay friend down and i

asked him you know what do you do and um he goes well and he'd made this noise with his mouth i was like and i was like hey you just pull off and imagine they answer my question because he made that noise that i can't make it. And then the audience laughs. And I said, that's not the worst thing I said to him. I said, listen, gay people have

a great sense of humor. I actually said something darker to him, but I'm not going to tell people what it was because I felt like to get upset. And then the audience

egged me on. It was like, tell us, tell us, tell us. All right. And I said, all right. And I, y'all ain't going to judge me. No. Maybe.

You're a comedian. You sitting there like this. You're a comedian. All right, so then I said, I said. Uh-oh. He thinking. No, because I said, I said. Hey, I forgot.

It's so funny. It's so funny watching your publicists out there. They're like, oh, my God. They're looking at you like, no, don't do it. And I said, he goes, my gay friend was like, I was born this way. And then I said, I said, oh, shit. I said, really? I said, but then I said, well, who?

Who? So what? And then I. Us little baby. Oh, my God. Like the baby. Bad time to represent. It's a joke. word like the baby the joke and the audience like laughed they lost it and i got a big huge round of applause just because i said that because they didn't think i was gonna go there and they were like i'm like

and it was like yo yo, that is dope. And they laughed. It was one of my favorite jokes. But I was just like, I don't know how mothers over the age of white mothers over 47 would enjoy that. And for my white female audience over 47, I chose to take that joke out. I can see the think piece is Marlon Wayans

not funny. All right? OK. There's nothing funny about that pieces Marlon Wayans they're not funny there's nothing funny about that Marlon Wayans here's the wild part I didn't just do the hush little baby I did the whole lullabot

you did the whole song and it just gets more and more uncomfortable and funnier and fucking funnier. Marlon Way. It's funny. I can see the fake pieces right now. But here's the thing. Ready?

There's funny in every fucking thing. I don't care what topic it is. There's funny in everything. Now, it may take you time to find it, but it's funny and everything. You can't tell somebody how to feel about what they went through. That's their therapy is going, oh, you know what's funny about this? And that's the beauty of comedy is no matter what we decide to talk about, as long as you're talking about your truth,

as long as you're talking about a perspective that isn't trying to bash but you're trying to enlighten, I think you can talk about anything. Every time I tell the story about how I got molested at eight by my cousin's ex-wife and I always say I made her stop because she had a jerry curl and I didn't like the smell of her jerry curl. You see what I'm saying?

That's the same reaction every single time. Look at her. She's like... You have to set me up so judgmental. But look at her. She's like. You see what I'm saying? Well, I've heard it too many. You're not accepting it so judgmental. I've heard it too many times already. But it's funny every time I hear it.

Every time. But it's a true story. Because I would be the same way. I'm not trying to go down this rabbit hole without a one of you. Because the way a jerry curl smells is like. That's how I felt when I was eight. I was like, I don't like the smell of a jerry curl. And it's icky.

It's on my hands. It's everywhere. Your mom could tell who it was. It was your auntie. Why? Because look at your lap. All that glycerin's on your f***ing lap. That's what that is.

I know it was Aunt Larita. Now, you know who's going to cancel you after this special? People with Audi belly buttons. Oh, look at that. I canceled them years ago. You're f***ing with Audis, Marlon? You got gotta see this special.

I grew up, where'd you grow up, South Carolina? Monk's Corner, South Carolina. Where'd you grow up? See, okay,

so you know what the f*** I'm talking about. Yes. It's the Audi belly button kids. They just badass f***ing kids. It was always the n***a

with the Audi belly button that was the bully in the hood. And they never would've had their shirt on either. They never had, they always had,

and they were buff at f***ing four years old. And they never would have had their shirt on either. They never had. They always had. And they were buff at four years old. And so I talk about Audi belly button people and how they're terrible human beings. So Audi belly button people, please watch this. It's no offense to you. It's no offense to your belly button and how you were raised. The funny part is, somebody can write a think piece about that too marlon wayans thinks people are out of the belly belly buttons are the devil like what

can you fix that if you have an audi like get certain black people try they put a quarter you ever seen somebody with a quarter take to the belly button or a nickel brothers try to fix it just sleep them the n***a on his stomach. He'll be alright. I don't know where the f*** it comes from, but it always scared me. And so in my special, I talk about my fears and that's one of them.

Listen, what I like about the special is it starts weird. Just off the cuff. Starts weird. And then it just keeps going. And then it gets like, okay, then you, after the first eight minutes, you enter the special and you realize that, oh, shit, I'm on a journey. And, you know, I get to talk about my life, my truth, you know, my fuck ups, and poke fun at it.

It was crazy. I'm just realizing, I don't think you've been here in two years. August, maybe a 2019. Yeah, you ain't been here in two years. August, maybe a 2019. Yeah, you ain't been here in two years. We're in a pandemic. You wasn't here either. Which Angela, she sat at home and was like, I'm going to make Angela Yee juice. That's damn right.

And Envy was like, I'm making Envy water. This tastes just like water. I want to. That's a little old baby. A little baby. All right, we got more with Marlon Wayans when we come back. Don't move. It's The Breakfast Club.

Good morning. The Breakfast Club. As a kid, I really do remember having these dreams and visions, but you just don't know what is going to come for you. Alicia Keys opens up about conquering doubt, learning to trust herself and leaning into her dreams. I think a lot of times we are built to doubt the possibilities for ourselves. For self-preservation and protection, It was literally that step by step. And so I discovered that that is how we get where we're going. This increment of small, determined moments.

Alicia shares her wisdom on growth, gratitude, and the power of love. I forgive myself. It's okay. Like grace. Have grace with yourself. You're trying your best. And you're going to figure out the rhythm of love. I forgive myself. It's okay. Like, grace. Have grace with yourself. You're trying your best. And you're gonna figure out the rhythm of this thing. Alicia Keys, like you've never heard her before.

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Yee. You see now, Robin has come out as bisexual. And I see a lot of people weighing in on that. When did that happen? It just came... That just happened. Yesterday. As soon as they put my car down, I don't sort of got to be bisexual. And I see a lot of people weighing in on that. When did that happen? It just came, it just happened. Yesterday. As soon as they put my character on, I don't know, so the n***a got me bisexual. They're like, bitch. Why they put this

on the brother? White Robin the kid is now Black Robin. I didn't know that. I feel like, you know, with the way the world is, at this point everybody needs some representation. Everybody should have some type of hero. And who cares? Like, I mean, I think it's dope world is at this point everybody needs some representation everybody should have some type of hero and who cares like I mean I think it's dope that you

know it progresses and that he goes where he wants it that's what he wants to be that's wrong look my daughter needs a superhero so hey congrats gay Robin my daughter would love that but go yes Robin yes so for everybody like, yes. So for everybody, like, oh, it was beautiful. Yet another reason why In Living Color should get more credit, because everybody was represented on In Living Color. Everybody. It was a diverse cast, and every character y'all portrayed was, I mean, handicapped people, gay people.

Like, give me trans genders. They say that In Living Color couldn't exist today. I disagree. I don't think the world would be as sensitive if In Living Color couldn't exist today. I disagree. I don't think the world would be as sensitive if In Living Color did exist. If we did, people go, you can't do a White Chicks 2. Sure we could. I think White Chicks 2 would actually be better, given this climate, than it was. It would be more successful than it was because people are looking for people to just say it.

Everybody's so scared to just say it. I'm going scared to just say, I'm going to say it. And it's, Oh, I've always said it, but I always say with kids gloves, because our intention is never to dismantle or hurt people. Our intention is to bring people together with a laugh. That's what I love about my shows. When I do standup, I can have a point of view over here and somebody else has a point of view over there.

But if I get them all to laugh, then we're agreeing about something. I would argue that if we laugh with each other and at each other, we all normalize each other, regardless of what it is. Growing up, that's all we did was snap on each other. Black people, white people, Puerto Rican people, Dominicans and Puerto Ricans will go at it. And that's what we did. Who's to say you can't say this? Sometimes you make your best friends by talking shit about people.

That's right. Some shit we got cool talking shit about each other. That was a good one. Hey, it was motivation. When Marlon told me I peaked at life, I said, I really got to do more of myself. He told me I peaked at life.

I was like, shit, have I? I peaked at life. Did I like, shit, have I? I peaked that life. Did I say that? I was trying to get nuclear. I went nuclear. I was like, ah, yeah. All your best days are behind you. All right?

I'm like, I'm going to write a book. F*** this. I'm going to do nine podcasts. I'll show that to them all. Who peaked that life, mother****? And I'm living at home nine podcasts. I'll show that to them all. Who picked that light, mother******? And I'm living at home with my mom right now because I just got fired from Whitney. Like, what the ****?

Wow. I didn't know the effect of that. Like, wow. Because you feel like, I might as well go for it. Wow. He was a **** talking back in the day. He was an ****. Like, for no reason.

It was just like, why do you like this? Trauma. Trauma. Really? Yeah, hell yeah. I was a hurt person, man. Plus, I was a little mad at you because you and Wendy have f***ed with my sister. And my sister, Kim, is the sweetest, sweetest, most intelligent, the diagram of what a great black

woman should be. And they went at my sister. Why would you do that? I apologize. I thought I went at Sean. No, you went at Kim. And that's why Sean got mad. You went at Sean afterward. And Sean's like,

that's my sister. Sean, we in New York that felt like alright Kim I'm gonna f*** this n***a up you get Wendy that yeah but so that when we had the Twitter beef that's when I was like I'm fine

but send Kim our love I sincerely apologize. I was a different person back then. Aw, that's sweet. Thank you, man. I appreciate it. Absolutely. Absolutely.

Black women deserve that. Now, I know we're also here to talk about respect. We have to discuss that. Aretha Franklin. Yes, because the Aretha Franklin biopic, first and foremost, Jennifer Hudson is amazing in this movie. When you see this woman's work, I couldn't believe that I was watching this woman do this. And it wasn't like she was trying.

She had no fear. She would come to work. She's singing Aretha Franklin take after take after take, live. Wow. Never ask for hot water and lemon. I was like, honey, God is in her abdomen. She was so damn good. I felt like when I was like, honey, God is in her abdomen. Like, she was so damn good.

And I felt like when I was going to work, I was like, I'm going to watch Jennifer Hudson win three Oscars. And you played her abusive? Abusive husband, Ted White. Ted White. Which was different for me because I'd never seen my dad strike my mom. I didn't grow up in a household like that. Wayne's household was not like that. That's why me and my brothers were

respectful men. We'll walk away before it get crazy. You can light my house on fire. I'm still not going to hit you. Nothing you can do to make me come out of my character. So I really had to dig deep to find that and I thought what would make a man hit a woman and I thought a damaged

man would hit a woman because he's trying to damage her because damaged people damage people. And a damaged man is really a hurt little boy. And so the insecurity and the jealousy, him trying to control her, sparked the abuse. But I wanted it to come from a place of love because when a man meets a woman, he loves her. He wants to rescue her. He's coming as the knight in shining armor and that was his intention but he failed her because he just was

nothing but a hurt little boy and that to me i wanted to do that because i want to represent for all the women that are in abusive relationships and people go why don't you just leave him girl it ain't that easy when you fall in love and that's the beauty of these movies, you see us fall in love, and then you invest in the love. And so it's not that easy to leave somebody because you're trying to rescue people from each other's damage.

How'd you prepare for the role, though? You keep talking about the hurt little boy, so did you have to tap into some trauma you experienced as a child? I mean, I've seen... I mean, you grew up in the projects you see you see you see people get their hands up all the time so i thought about past relationships that i knew girlfriends of mine that have been in abusive relationships or you know family members who have been in abusive relationships so i kind of tapped into that and then I read Iceberg Slim's book, Pimp.

And Pimp is the thing that made me realize that all monsters aren't monsters. They're really damaged little boys. And Iceberg Slim, in his book, Pimp, he became a pimp because he was mad at his mother because his mother left his stepfather, who was the only man in his life that he loved, and she f***ed around with another dude

and she left that man who was really good to him for another dude and he was like, bitch, I hate you. I'm slapping bitches for life. And that's what he did. I think they're saying you gotta go. Oh, gotta go. I'm canceled. Being that this is my last interview.

I do want to ask you about this because I thought this was good, speaking of motivation. Say, Chris Rock heckled you during a performance. Man, that n****. You quit stand-up for 20 years. That must have been a bad heckling. I don't. What? I was like, Chris?

Because I didn't know it was him. Yeah. You know, I was 18, 17. I'm doing stand-up. And I hear. And I'm like, you know, I didn't know it was him. I was 18, 17. I'm doing stand-up. And I hear. And I'm like, you know, you're trying to find it. And you're like, what else? How about some fucking jokes?

I was like, so what else is funny? I don't know, man. How about you tell us what's funny? What? And he heckled me. Oh, fuck. It's hard. But understand, in the comedy game, it's a fraternity. Yeah, yeah, fraternity yeah you know and my brother's probably

with chris and chris was heckling me that's part of the fraternity but thank god that didn't happen and go viral like it would have today because i would have loved it i mean oh no that's hard well here's that's the beauty is now i'm the baby of the bunch right so all these chris gonna get old probably faster than me. Yeah. And I'm going to catch that s*** old on stage. And when his senile ass goes, what else is funny? I don't know, you old black s***.

How about you tell us where your jumps at, s*** digger, your pamper? It's funny because I saw him performing at Dave Chappelle's summer camp, and he was a little rusty because he hadn't performed in a while, so he had notes and everything. That's what you should have got him. You should have got him right now. Notes flew away. You can't get Chris.

Chris a goat. Chris is a G in the game. But he made it funny that he was rusty. But see, here's Chris, right? I performed. It was me, Dave, Chris, Jon Stewart, Michael Shea, Don L. Rawlings. He's down at the stand, and Chris was going to go up, and before he goes up, he goes, I got nothing.

I got nothing. I was like, Chris, come on, stop with that bulls**t. You have 37 specials, and you have nothing. I got nothing. He goes on stage, and he got nothing. But this mother f** motherfucker lit the room up. Wow. Like, lit it up.

Just read it out of his cell phone. Just reading text out of his cell phone. Lit the room up. He gets off stage, and he does this, and he goes, I thought you said that nothing. He goes, It's with the Michael Jordan show. The Michael Jordan show.

Like, you ain't nine. Go. Three-pointer. You at Gotham all weekend? Gotham all weekend. But thank God you haven't peaked at life. No, you ain't nine. Three-pointer. You had Gotham all weekend? Gotham all weekend. But thank God you haven't peaked at life. No, I'm just beginning. Watch me come in here next time and you find out I'm on the boat with nine bitches.

And I got to break up with three or four baby mamas. I'm making it interesting. And when you watch the special, just watch what he has to say about him being with a white woman and how mad. What? Now they're going to cancel you. Now you done went too far. Now you done went too far. Now you done went too far. Boy, it is hot in the seat.

That big peak of life. Well, Respect is out August 13th. Yeah, August 13th, and my HBO Max special. That's today. You know what it is. You gotta watch. You know what it is on HBO Max. You know what it is, my second special. Also, I'll be in Donya Beach, Florida

at the Donya Beach Improv. Donya Beach Improv. Come through. Fort Lauderdale. This weekend. If you wear a mask, is the governor going to kick you out? Yeah, they'll kick you out

if you do wear a mask. If you got a vaccine, you can't get in. Go check out Respect Today. It's Marlon Wayans. Thank you for coming, brother. Appreciate you, my guy. Yes, sir.

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I just found out he's from Queens, New York. Yes, absolutely. I read an amazing book called The Sword and the Shield, written by Dr. Peniel Joseph. One of the best books I've ever read. I got around to it about a year late. I know it came out last year in March, but I got to it about a year late. But it really explores the revolutionary lives of Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. and

Brother Malcolm X in a very humanizing way. What made you want to explore them the way that you did? Well, I've always, you know, I'm going to say what Muhammad Ali said about Malcolm X. He said I fell in love with Malcolm X when he was debating people and talking to people about black history. So I fell in love with Malcolm X. He said, I fell in love with Malcolm X when he was debating people and

talking to people about black history. So I fell in love with Malcolm X by the time I was eight, nine, 10 years old. The Eyes on the Prize documentary series came out. And this is before Denzel's brilliant movie came out in 1992. I was 19 when the movie came out. So I've always loved Malcolm X. I think my love for Dr. King has come as I've gotten older, as I've become a father, as I've become just a deeper adult, because you see, one, how Dr. King was radicalized in part by Malcolm X, but I've also come to see that certainly we need self-defense, what Malcolm X talked about,

but we also need the beloved community, what Dr. King talked about. So my whole thing was seeing how they went from being rivals and adversaries to being each other's alter egos. What did you learn a lot of this? Because in school, especially growing up, they touched on a lot of it. I mean, it wasn't so deep. It was the, I have a dream speech. It was a little bit of Malcolm X. So what made you want to learn more about these characters malcolm x and martin luther king and you know it was growing up in new york city envy you know my mother um was part of a hospital workers uh sciu 1199 and so we grew up in a city where we talked about social protest i was a freshman in high school when michael griffith was was was murdered uh in

december of 86 in howard beach a white mob chased them out into the highway and the brother was just destroyed by by a fast-moving car and was trying to figure all this stuff out in new york city so this before david dinkins uh this is when eleanor bumpers who was a black grandmother was murdered by the police at in her own home. And so all of that got me interested. But then certainly Eyes on the Prize premiered in New York in 1987, 88 on PBS, Channel 13 over here. And we grew up in a New York City where Channel 5, before Fox News,

we used to watch the drive-in movies. And you think about Wu-Tang. They talk about Shaolin. 3 p.m. on Saturdays, this is before cable, this is before everything, we used to watch kung fu movies, right? So it was this idea of you were watching kung fu movies, hip hop. Run DMC lived on Hollis, right up the hill. So we used to see Run DMC. We used to be able to go to shows. They used to play at times, in P.S. 34 Park. But there was all this racial segregation. Ed Koch was the mayor of New York. Ronald Reagan was the president. All that got me interested in Malcolm X.

First time I read about Malcolm, my mother had the autobiography of Malcolm X in the house. And I read that and that just got me going. How old are you? Because you were talking like you 50 something. you look like you and your late 20s he was born in 72 bro 72 okay okay yeah i'm 48 okay wow man what you vegan a lot of water a lot of water a lot of been practicing uh yoga for 23 years okay okay and uh yeah all that good stuff yeah now, what does the metaphor in the book's title, the sword and the shield refer to? I'm glad you asked that. So we usually think about Malcolm X as the political sword of the black freedom struggle. And I even write in this book, Malcolm served as black America's prosecuting attorney. So he was prosecuting the United States for crimes against black humanity that dated back to racial slavery.

Dr. King is usually think thought of as the shield. He's America's apostle of nonviolence, where Malcolm is Harlem's hero of self-defense. We think about the ballot or the bullet speech. We think about Malcolm with a rifle by a window, and that's an iconic picture. What I argue in The Sword and the Shield is that both Malcolm and Martin are both. Malcolm X is not only the political sword of the black community, he becomes our prime minister who goes to Africa, the Middle East. He becomes El Hodge Malik Shabazz. And he wants to build a beloved community as well, but one that's rooted in truth and the truth of not just racial slavery,

but our West African and our African heritage. So Malcolm is a Pan-African all day, every day, but he's also a Muslim. He's also a radical internationalist. King is not just somebody who's a man of peace. He's a man of peace. He's a man of God. Both of them are men of God. But King is also this nonviolent revolutionary. King becomes so revolutionary after Malcolm X's death, he's no longer on speaking terms with the president of the United States because he comes out against the Vietnam War. And he starts to say things like all white Americans have unconscious racism. He says the halls of the U.S. Congress are running wild with racism. In April 4th, 1967, at the Riverside

Church in New York, he says that the greatest purveyor of violence in united in in the world is the united states of america and so that's the revolutionary king who goes to places like marks mississippi entails poor black people that door reconstruction they were promised forty acres in a mule they didn't get their forty acres in a mule but he's gonna lead a poor people's caravan to go to washington dc until they get the forty acres and a mule, but he's going to lead a poor people's caravan to go to Washington, D.C. until they get the 40 acres and a mule.

That's Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. So he's both a sword and the shield. But Malcolm is as well. And what I argue in the book is that the person who most influences Dr. King's radicalism is Malcolm X. You know, they all know Charlemagne always talks about how Malcolm and Malcolm X and Dr. King, Dr. King spoke. Do you think they were assassinated because they were possibly going to join forces and come out together? And that would just be too much power. Well, I think they definitely are assassinated because they represent a threat to the American political system. I think that they would have gotten together. They spoke together once on March 26, 1964, at the U.S. Senate. But one little known aspect that I get into in the book is that Malcolm saw King in Harlem, December 17th, 1964. He was sitting next to Andy Young, Andrew Young, a former mayor of Atlanta, a former U.N. ambassador.

And he heard Dr. King give a whole speech after King won the Nobel Peace Prize. And not just that. He speaks about that speech in Harlem a few days later and says that it was a terrific speech. He's impressed. And he goes to Alabama to visit with Dr. King and Dr. King's in prison. And he visits instead with Coretta Scott King, Dr. King's wife and really political partner. We think of Coretta Scott King as just his wife. She's a brilliant organizer, political partner, intellectual. She's his his his his better half. Let's let's face it. And so when we think about Malcolm, Malcolm was ready to join forces with King, but on his own terms, he wasn't going to do the same thing.

He Malcolm always believed in black dignity. King believed in black citizenship. Over time, they both come to believe in black dignity and citizenship. And Malcolm X defined black dignity as the end of world white supremacy. All right, we got more with Dr. Peniel Joseph. When we come back, don't move. It's The Breakfast Club. Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy, Angela Yee, Charlamagne Tha Guy. We are The Breakfast Club. We're still kicking it with Dr. Peniel Joseph. Charlamagne?

Let's dig in on that a little bit more because I love the concept of radical black dignity. It's weird because I've read the autobiography of Malcolm X a few times. Love Message to the Black Man by Elijah Muhammad. Swear by those books. But I don't remember that concept, you know, explored as much as when I read The Sword and the Shield. And I even incorporated a lot of the concept of radical black dignity in a commencement speech I gave for South Carolina State, you know, about a month ago. But can you dig a little deeper on what that is? What is radical black dignity? Radical black dignity for Malcolm X is radical black political self-determination. So what that means is that Malcolm absolutely had this external critique.

He critiqued white supremacy. He critiqued institutions that were brutalizing black people, that we have to understand that. But we have to not be as hard on ourselves as we usually are, because Malcolm criticized us for loving white people and loving white supremacy too much. But what that meant was that we weren't able to face how we had been subjugated, how we had been subjugated during racial slavery. Reason why Malcolm X goes to Africa three times, because people don't talk about the 1959 trip to Africa where he's in Egypt. He's in the Middle East. He meets up with President, Vice President Anwar El-Sadat. He meets up with Prince Faisal, Saudi Arabia, the whole deal. Malcolm went there to the Middle East and to Africa even before he takes the Hajj because he knew that black people had a history before the Middle Passage

So part of that dignity was we understood that yes Not only had we been kings and queens and obviously not all of us were just kings and queens in Africa But we had a history before the US we had a history before European I won't even call it conquest, but being captives here and really recreating Western civilization through our own protest. Another part of radical black dignity is black beauty and black love. Malcolm, following Marcus Mosiah Garvey, believed in the beauty of black people intrinsically. Black women, black men, black children, black babies, black neighborhoods. So when we think about this idea of self-determination and my final point is this is why Malcolm has a critique of racial integration, not because he doesn't want an equal society. black children to school in Little Rock Central High School in 1957. Whereas King writes a telegram to President Eisenhower applauding that in September of 1957. Malcolm is angry and mad

about that. Why? It's a sick society where our children, little black girls and boys, have to be guarded by troops to go into a high school or elementary school. And that's why Malcolm says American democracy is nothing but American hypocrisy. Very famously, he says, you can't put a knife nine inches in a person's back, take it out three inches and call that progress. You haven't taken out the knife and you haven't even acknowledged the wound. So black dignity is us understanding our own struggle, loving ourselves through the joy and the trauma of that struggles. Remember, the reason why Malcolm X is the best order in American history. And I'll say Dr. King's number two. The reason why Malcolm's the best. Malcolm has a great sense of humor.

He actually forces us to confront this through through different parables. And when he talks about house Negroes versus field Negroes, he's talking about black dignity, but he's also talking that we have class tensions in our own community. Sometimes you'll have historians and scholars that say, well, the house Negro, field Negro is more complicated than that. Malcolm's given us allegories that everyone can understand. That's why he says, make it plain. So the house Negroes were black folks who had more identification with white supremacy and white masters. And that's why Malcolm says, make it plain. So the House Negroes were black folks who had more identification with white supremacy and white masters. And that's why Malcolm says when the white master got sick, the House Negro said, we see it right. And feel Negroes. Malcolm defined them like he defined himself.

Black people who were catching hell every day and who were bold enough to resist against white supremacy. So black dignity is huge, huge, huge. And this is why when we think about the Malcolm and Martin, the dichotomy and the convergence, it's only because of Malcolm X that Dr. King starts talking about black dignity. Dr. King starts saying black is beautiful and it's so beautiful to be black. Dr. King by 1967 tells us that they even tell us little white lies are better than black lives. Black lives. That's Dr. King only because Malcolm X had taught all of us about black dignity. Before Malcolm, we were all Negroes who turned into black people because of Malcolm X. In the book, you lay out how they each become the other's alter ego. Essentially,

to me, that's what the book is ultimately about. Can you explain it? Absolutely. When we think about Malcolm and Martin, over time, Dr. King becomes much more of a radical and a revolutionary, speaking truth to power in an unapologetic way in the tone of Malcolm X. My great example there is when Dr. King is in Marks, Mississippi in 1968, organizing the Poor People's Campaign. He tells the poor King is in Marks, Mississippi, in 1968, organizing the Poor People's Campaign. He tells the poor black folks in Marks, Mississippi, that the way they are living is a crime. That's the exact language that Malcolm X used to use about this crime against black humanity that had occurred. For Malcolm, it's the ballot or the bullet speech. The ballot or the

bullet speech is the first time Malcolm X acknowledges the need for radical black citizenship. He had always acknowledged the need for radical black dignity. But Malcolm hedges. He doesn't believe in American democracy. Never does. He believes in what black people. He says the reason why I think we should do the ballot or the bullet is that I want black people to have a chance to utilize this political power and see where it gets them. Remember, Malcolm X had been in prison. Malcolm X, his father had been killed early. He always felt it was a white supremacist attack. His mother had been institutionalized. Malcolm had seen what I call the lower frequencies of the United States of America. So he was always skeptical about democracy working the way in which white people pretended it worked.

Right. But what he did was he had faith in who black people. He was schooled by his mother, Louise Norton Little, who was from Grenada. So Malcolm has Caribbean blood as well as the African African-American blood. He was schooled by his father, Earl Little. He was schooled by the Honorable Elijah Muhammad. But he was also schooled by all these revolutionary leaders in the Middle East and Africa. Right. So when you think about Malcolm becomes closer to King through this acknowledgement that we need to end worldwide supremacy, not just through self-defense, but we're going to need that beloved community. But Malcolm Hedges, he says, one, I only believe in black people vis-a-vis this democracy thing. But two, he says that white people and his language is this sincere white people can be part of the movement.

What did he define as sincere? He defined it sincere as what Du Bois called abolitionist democracy, white people who are going to be willing to put themselves on the line, right, to transform the entire world. So Du Bois always said, and W.E.B. Du Bois is the intellectual who was the founder of the NAACP, one of the most important intellectuals ever. But what he wrote in a book, 1935, called Black Reconstruction, was he wrote the true history of Reconstruction. He pushed back against the lost cause history that had said we were apes and monsters and we were raping white women. He showed how black people tried to reimagine American democracy. And the only reason the country exists in the form it exists now is because of our labor, our sweat, our sacrifice, our love, our patriotism.

Right. And so when we think about Malcolm and Martin, Martin becomes closer to Malcolm where he becomes this unfettered revolutionary, becomes a pillar of fire, an Old Testament prophet. He's Amos. He's Jeremiah. He's Moses by the end of his life. And Malcolm becomes closer to King, where he starts to say that not only is he a prosecuting attorney, he becomes black America's prime minister in the last year of his life. Malcolm X had an office at the United Nations. Malcolm X could go and speak to Prime Minister Kwame Nkrumah in Ghana. He could speak to Nnamdi Azikiwe in Nigeria. He could speak to Mohamed Babu, who is the prime minister of Zanzibar. So that's when he becomes closer to Dr. King.

So they really converge. And you could see the love and admiration that Malcolm has for him when he tells Coretta Scott how much he admires her husband in Selma. And when you read the statement that King sends after Malcolm's assassination, he expresses his admiration and says what a great man Malcolm X was, who was constantly changing. So you can see the convergence between both of them, even in their lifetimes. Let me tell you something, man. His name is Dr. Peniel Joseph. The book is The Sword and the Shield.

I'm not even exaggerating when I say it's one of the best books that I've ever read in my entire existence on this planet. I think everybody should go out there and get The Sword and the Shield right now. It explores the revolutionary lives of Malcolm X and Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. I can't wait to just read more of your stuff, Dr. Peniel. Well, thank you, Charlemagne, the God. It's been great. It's an honor.

It's a pleasure to be here. You're an icon. No, stop. So I'm really appreciative of this opportunity and to chop it up with you, the dialogue, especially as somebody from New York City, a native New Yorker. It's Dr. Peniel Joseph. It's The Breakfast Club morning everybody it's dj envy angela g charlamagne the guy we are the breakfast club charlamagne you got a positive note i sure do uh healing yourself is connected with healing others breakfast club bitches y'all finished or y'all done

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