The Breakfast Club - Mashonda Talks "Positive Distraction", Returning To Music, Reseting Energy + More

Episode Date: November 24, 2022

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Morning everybody, it's DJ Envy, Angela Yee, Charlamagne Tha Guy, we are The Breakfast Club. We got a special guest in the building. Stranger Danger. Stranger Danger. Goodness gracious. Mashanda. Hi. Welcome back.
Starting point is 00:00:13 We haven't seen you in how long? 20? No, 2018. When the book came out. Yep, yep. How are you? I'm great. How's your energy?
Starting point is 00:00:22 Amazing. Okay, okay. I think, you know, I think my energy is always amazing. You know? I'm great. How's your energy? Amazing. Okay. Okay. I think, you know, I think my energy is always amazing. You know, I'm pretty steady. You set your affirmations in the morning? Always. Yep. What was it this morning? I think the first, the first thing I said to myself when I woke up was this, it's going to be a beautiful day. Okay. And you feel great. Absolutely. Even with the rain and everything. I love the rain because living in San Diego now, we don't get any rain. Why San Diego?
Starting point is 00:00:49 It's just gorgeous. I know, but what was the connection? Because you used to live here. I've lived here my whole life. 2020 happened. My grandmother, who raised me, one of the closest people in my life, passed away in 2020. Oh, I'm sorry to hear that.
Starting point is 00:01:04 And she was the main reason why I stayed here so long because I was taking care of her. My son's father moved out to San Diego in 2019, and he struggled. My son struggled with it a lot. I see his dad. Right. You know, he lost that connection.
Starting point is 00:01:24 It was a weekly thing so um i've been wanting to move to la for years but i stayed because of my grandmother and when everything happened i went out to san diego spent a month and fell in love i was like i don't want to live in la i want want to live here. It's like nature everywhere. And it ended up working out. It reignited your love for music too? Yeah. I definitely think that setting had a lot to do with it,
Starting point is 00:01:56 really emerging back into it. And your son had a lot to do with it also. 100%. Influence on everything. Totally. Can you tell us why you've put out an EP? It's been how long since your last project? January Joy came out in 2005.
Starting point is 00:02:13 Yikes. Jesus Christ. 17 years later. I know that you did have a lack of love for music. Was it the industry? More the industry, right? Absolutely the industry. You know, I felt a little misplaced and a little unwelcomed. Even blackballed, would you say?
Starting point is 00:02:34 Yeah, a little bit. You know, I heard things here and there. People felt like they had to choose sides. I still feel like a lot of people do feel that way. And I get it. You know, I know people You never got that though Yeah, oh yeah
Starting point is 00:02:48 Really? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah That must have been on them Because I've never felt like I couldn't play a Mashanda record I've never felt that from you guys Mashanda can host a show or club I've never felt that at all But you'd be surprised
Starting point is 00:03:00 That was on them then Totally, totally And, you know, it was a little discouraging. And as much as I love music, I've been doing music way before I met my ex, you know? So it was me. And
Starting point is 00:03:15 my son came in the room last year in November and he said, Ma, you're viral on TikTok. And I was like, what does that mean, you know? And... Shana, you ain't that old. You I was like, what does that mean? You know? And, um, you know, you know,
Starting point is 00:03:28 what's going on. I've been in a bubble. I was never on TikTok until he told me this. Now, somebody up here said, you're Charlamagne. You're, you're,
Starting point is 00:03:38 you're sound on TikTok. Your sounds going by. I'm like, what are you talking about? Right. And it was a record that I did in 2003, a freestyle I did over a Busta Rhymes joint, The Honey I See You. It had like millions and millions and millions of interactions worldwide. And I was like, okay, well, maybe
Starting point is 00:03:58 this is a sign. Maybe I need to really get back into it, especially now that this generation knows my voice so um i did just that you know and i created a body of work that i love and it's art you know it's not a traditional album it's it's from beginning to end a story what's the story based on love and my my transformation i don't always use the word healing because I feel like it's more of a transformation. And just the ups and downs of love. And you did some visuals with it. I did a lot of visuals.
Starting point is 00:04:36 Felt a lot of energy with the interaction with you and your main leading man. Yes, because I wanted to create a visual that was refreshing compared to what's happening now in visuals where it's you know i don't feel like i don't feel like we're showing love and romance and what that looks like anymore i feel like it's almost like a dying art do people even know what that is anymore this is what i'm saying so i wanted to take it back to what that looks like, like having an argument with the person
Starting point is 00:05:06 you're in love with but then coming back together, not canceling him, you know? So that's what Complicated is all about. Did your son help you pick the beats
Starting point is 00:05:15 and help you produce? Nah. He did not at all? He had nothing. He kept him out of it? He didn't want nothing to do with it. Really?
Starting point is 00:05:21 You know, he has his own genre of music. I figured, yeah, your son makes music. Take it to my mom, let me help you out a little bit. No, you know, has his own genre of music and he's son makes music take my mom let me help you out a little bit no you know he's like when i do make something that he can relate to he's like yeah this one's good otherwise to him it's like old people music you know did you play the ep for him oh he loves it okay he loves it yeah what is the god's plan affirmation
Starting point is 00:05:42 so the god's plan affirmation my grandmother always used to say, put everything in God's hands. So at the end, that's what I say. I say it's God's plan and it's in God's hands. And that one starts with waking up and blessing the day. And I say, I want to start. I want to start my bless. I want to thank my day with you. So I'm speaking to the person listening.
Starting point is 00:06:09 I want to count my blessings starting with you. So that's to let you know you are a blessing, right? So it's interactive, the music and the affirmations. Because I want people to really, I feel feel like our culture sometimes we have a hard time understanding how to even get into meditating I have a lot of people ask me well how do you meditate what is an affirmation so I wanted to incorporate that into the EP just to give people a small idea of how to get started and I did it over a very relatable kind of beat so you work with a lot of people in this industry did So, there are three of them.
Starting point is 00:06:45 You work with a lot of people in this industry. Did you reach out to any of them during this project? Did some of them say, nah, I'm not effing with you? Has everybody came with open arms? I didn't want to work with anyone in the industry. So I worked with two new young producers. Lanisha Nelson, who's an amazing vocalist and songwriter,
Starting point is 00:07:07 engineer, and Kwan Keys, who is a sick producer. He's a church guy. And I wanted to work with new, fresh, you know, undiscovered talent.
Starting point is 00:07:19 I don't really want to put anybody in a situation where it was like, all right, let me make sure it's okay, you know? So I just did my own thing. That probably helps to create a trauma-free album too. Absolutely.
Starting point is 00:07:32 Because you're not bringing no old triggers into the studio. And, you know, certain things like, you know, I like the song Runaway. Yes. And the story behind that song in particular I think is interesting because it can be such a relief when you're like in a bad situation and you get out of it. Baby, it is freedom, right? It's runaway. Runaway is just about walking away from a situation before it gets out of hand, like knowing when to respect the red flags, you know? And I think sometimes we prolong things that don't feel good
Starting point is 00:08:06 because we're comfortable in there, or someone said, you know, the sex might be good, and we don't want to part ways with that. Why did you say someone said? Because when we spoke... Have you ever stayed with somebody too long because the sex was good? No. No.
Starting point is 00:08:26 Too quick. That's never been like a leading factor. What are some red flags for Mashanda? Red flags for me now are definitely communication. You know, if we can't be transparent and consistency.
Starting point is 00:08:41 I love consistency. So it's like those two things have so much to do with like your foundation and what it's leading up to. So I look out for that. How is dating now for Mashauna? Dating is interesting. Dating can be ghetto.
Starting point is 00:09:00 What do you mean ghetto? Dating can be really ghetto. I'm thinking ghetto with me I'm thinking McDonald's What's ghetto for Michonne? If you're thinking McDonald's Think about dating You know versus Mr. Chow
Starting point is 00:09:13 When the fries are good and hot Exactly What do you mean ghetto? You know I just feel like People get into these Interactions and relationships And they're not Em ready, not mentally ready. And then they just come in with all their stuff and kind of like project onto you.
Starting point is 00:09:35 And it's like, this is not what I signed up for. And, you know, a lot of younger guys have been coming my way. And I'm like, I don't younger guys have been coming my way. And I'm like, I don't know if we can, if we can. Lala said that too when she was up here last. Yeah. And they're so like bold and intense about it. It's like.
Starting point is 00:09:54 Are they coming in your DMs? Are they meeting you in person? Both. Do you like the boldness? I like, yeah, I do like when, you know, people know what they want and they are showing you that they're very serious about it. But it's just interesting because I'm just it. But these younger guys do. They are pretty more pretty mature compared to, I guess, 10 years ago, what a younger guy was.
Starting point is 00:10:20 But it's been interesting because at first I was like, well, what do we have? What do we even have in common? What are we going to talk about? But I don't know. You know, I don't want to say that I would never date. And when I say younger, I'm talking like 28 to 31. Okay. It's pretty young.
Starting point is 00:10:39 What's the wildest date you've been on that a younger man has taken you on? Where did y'all go? What did y'all do? I mean, I can't even think of it. I want to know the ghetto one that you said ghetto because something popped in your mind when you said ghetto. McDonald's ain't that ghetto, especially if you high as hell
Starting point is 00:10:54 and y'all leave, y'all coming back from somewhere and get them hot fries late at night. I'm not talking about ghetto in a sense of form, like physical ghetto. I'm talking about like the interaction itself, you know? The spirit of ghetto. I'm talking about the interaction itself. The spirit of ghetto. People don't call anymore.
Starting point is 00:11:09 Sometimes they just only text you. Or they FaceTime you with no notice. I don't like that. You don't like to FaceTime? I don't do FaceTime. Yeah, I don't really answer FaceTime. We have to plan a FaceTime. Word up.
Starting point is 00:11:20 Like, hey, are you busy? Is it okay to FaceTime? Right, right. What did you feel you needed to tell yourself when you named the album Note Yourself? So I'm the type of person, I'm always, if something comes to mind, I'm always writing it down. I'm doing voice notes, I'm journaling.
Starting point is 00:11:37 And I've noticed that when I don't do that, I forget what that moment of like, oh, wow. So I think everybody should start writing things down. Those moments where you like connect the dots in your head, like that happened because of this. You know, it's always like something in the past that kind of triggers something in the present. So for me, Note to Self is really, it's an accounting,
Starting point is 00:12:07 it's a document of everything that I feel like I've survived and made it through. And not only survived and made it through, but I'm able to take the lessons from it. I haven't forgotten the lessons. Let's talk about the song Positive Distraction for a second. Because sometimes you're like, okay, there's a lot going on, and I just need something to make me feel good and feel happy.
Starting point is 00:12:32 Are you okay with dating somebody who you know maybe there's no future with, but they are a positive distraction? Yeah, definitely. Definitely. I feel like everybody needs that. But that's also a conversation. You don't want to lead somebody on you know it's like we come together
Starting point is 00:12:47 we have a good time and then it's okay we can part ways and pick up right where we left off from the last time yeah are you doing this all on your own this album? is it independent? super independent you produce, direct your own videos everything. So what makes this
Starting point is 00:13:03 successful to you? What's in a successful album? The fact that it's done and out. The fact that I did it. You know, the fact that I worked, put my money into it. I didn't ask anybody for anything. I paid everybody that helped me. I don't owe anybody any money. Okay.
Starting point is 00:13:22 Right? I feel like I also created opportunities for creatives to come in and show what they can do um even the artwork down to the artwork down to every font you know all the small details um it's it feels really good to to create a body of work and then release it and know that you pretty much did it on your own. One thing I always give you credit for is artwork. Like as far as you curating these art shows, helping these young artists,
Starting point is 00:13:55 but also helping people get their collection up. Yeah. Because Meshanda will send me like pictures like, this would be great for you. Or this artist, she's a young black girl from Brooklyn. And I think you should get this piece of work because she really wants to sell it to somebody that you know somebody like you and so she does always hit me up about things like that and so can you talk about your love of art because this is something you were doing for
Starting point is 00:14:18 a long time I remember you um had did the book release I think it was the book release at Donna Karen's place Donna Karen's house it was the book release at Donna Karan's place, Donna Karan's house. It was amazing, by the way. I was like, what is this? But even just being into artwork, where did that come from? I've been a collector for the past 25 years, and that sounds old as hell.
Starting point is 00:14:39 But I've always collected art, and I've always supported artists. So it's just a part of who I am. But I started Art Leader in 2016 because I wanted to create a platform to give women in art more of an opportunity to show their work and to sell their work. So I do exhibitions. I curate, you know, galleries. And I'm getting ready to do a couple of museum shows. And for me, it's all about having people of color collect people of color. You know, so when I connect Angela with an artist, an emerging artist that I know is doing what they need to do to take their career to the next level.
Starting point is 00:15:25 I know that I'm not only helping Angela, but I'm also helping the artists. And music and art, you know, it collides. It's pretty much the industries are almost alike, and the artists, they need the same kind of support as musicians do. For people who want to collect art, how do you determine? Because people always ask me that, like if they come to my house and they see what I have and they're like, what made you decide to buy that? And for me, it's just a feeling that I get if I see something, if it evokes any type of emotion in me, if it makes me think of something,
Starting point is 00:15:58 if I think it's just beautiful. What for you would you tell people who want to start collecting art? How do they go about getting their collection going? I think the first thing is to make sure you buy art that you if you have children that you want your children to grow up looking at, you know, and something that that's going to that's going to because it becomes a part of your psyche. Like you you wake up, you see it, you go to sleep, you see it. So make sure that you love what you're looking at. Don't just get into it for an investment, even though it can be a great investment, but definitely buy work that you love. And I think that's what you're so good at. How can you tell when something's a good investment? People ask me that all the time,
Starting point is 00:16:41 too, because I'm like, I don't really know know no you you just buy art because you love it which is great you're like a real collector but the I mean once you're involved in the marketplace and you it's like stocks and bonds right you check the market you you can see what what art is going up what's selling at auction um the price points who's in museums, who's with a good gallery. These are all ways that you can tell if an artist is going to be a, quote unquote, good investment. Let's go back to your other art, the music. Because you said this album is described as a healthy, realistic outlook on relationships. But then this first thing is called complicated. Because that's real life.
Starting point is 00:17:24 So complicated relationships can be healthy? Yes. Okay. Because you got to learn from it. Is there such a thing as a relationship that's not complicated? Right. Every human relationship, relationships with self is complicated. Because humans are complicated.
Starting point is 00:17:34 Yes. Yeah, yeah. Friendships are complicated. I think tackling that conversation is super healthy. Have you seen the video? I'm not sure. Is that the one where you and the guy all over each other?
Starting point is 00:17:48 Well, we're not all over each other. There are moments where we're fighting. Okay. But that's like, for me, that video is the perfect example of a complicated relationship. How do you argue? I always think it's important in relationships
Starting point is 00:18:03 that because you are at times not going to get along. And I do feel like your style of arguing and how you guys communicate during that time is important. How do I argue? Are you a yeller? Screamer? I'm not. Do I sound like I would be yelling? No. I'm more like, however I argue it works. Because I, and I don't want to say very firm.
Starting point is 00:18:29 You just shut down. Super firm. I don't shut down because I do believe in communication. But I do have a way of checking people. You're laughing. What are you laughing at? Something on your mind. I'm laughing because
Starting point is 00:18:45 I'm thinking of reactions and I do have a good, because I pay close attention to everything. Every detail. I'm paying attention to you and you don't even think I am. So when it gets to the point
Starting point is 00:18:57 of arguing, I'm going to call you out on things that you did not think. So you're an attorney? Pretty much. She got that mental book. I'm So you're an attorney? Pretty much. She got that mental book. I'm a Capricorn.
Starting point is 00:19:11 What's your birthday? January 9th. I'm going to call you out on things that you had no idea I even paid attention to because I didn't say shit about it before. Is that healthy though? Sometimes people bring things up and you're like why didn't you bring it up when it happened? Because sometimes it can fester.
Starting point is 00:19:28 It's not because you know why? I don't ever want to be that person that's coming across as the mother or the corrector or a judge. So I'm not going to correct a grown person every time I see them doing something that I don't agree with. I don't, I don't think that's healthy because that's not my child, you know? So, but I am going to pay attention. Like those are the red flags. What bothers you the most in a relationship, whether, whether you're dating somebody, what you, something that you can't stand, whether it's, I don't know, time, or is it...
Starting point is 00:20:09 You said lack of consistency. Lack of communication. Lack of communication, lack of consistency. I think a very annoying thing is when people play around with my time. Like if you say a certain time, you know what really irritates me? Not only from dating, not men, just in general.
Starting point is 00:20:33 Like if we have a 9 a.m. meeting, don't hit me at 9.45 and say, oh, I can't make it. You knew you couldn't make it probably at 8.45. I was like, damn, you late already. it you knew you couldn't make it probably at 8 45 right you you knew you couldn't make it at 8 probably so that those type of things I agree with that because I always feel like lateness is really a disrespect to the other person because it's like your time's not important yes and that's how I look at it I remember I dated this guy and what I did to him and he never was late again after this because he would always be late.
Starting point is 00:21:06 And so what I did was the next time that we were going out, I just went and did something else. And then when he called me like 30, 40 minutes, I was like, oh, I didn't think you were coming. Right. Because you weren't here, so I left. And he was never late again after that. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:21:19 Time is very important. Absolutely. Time is like one of the most important things, especially when you're a parent because you plan everything. is very important. Absolutely. Time is like one of the most important things. Especially when you're a parent. Because you plan everything. So I think that
Starting point is 00:21:31 yeah, be considerate. What made you focus on the last five years as opposed to like your whole life of dating experiences? As far as the EP? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:21:45 It wasn't only I'd say it was more so the last ten Yeah. Um, it wasn't only, I'd say it was more so the last 10 years. 10 years, okay. Well, because coming out of a marriage, you know, I had to give myself time to really get ready for dating.
Starting point is 00:21:56 You know, I didn't want to jump into anything. So once I hit the road, I was like, okay, I'm in it. Let's see, let's see what people are doing out here.
Starting point is 00:22:06 Did you like what you saw at first? At first, I don't think I was conscious enough to really pay attention. I was just having fun. And how is that? Is everything dating somebody else when you have an ex, right? Do they always look at your ex like it's a comparison? It's insane and it's ridiculous. And it's been a very large, it's been a huge hindrance and a complication.
Starting point is 00:22:34 Yes. I could imagine. It's annoying. If your ex worked at McDonald's, I'm sure it'd be a lot easier. It'd be so much easier. It'd be so much easier. But some guys are a little intimidated and insecure and um some guys act like they're not but they are and then once in a while you'll
Starting point is 00:22:57 meet a guy who really does not care who doesn't even really know who the person is and those are the ones those are the young ones that you were talking about. No, those are the ones that I like. Yeah, those are the ones who are just like, who? And I'm like, yeah, we're going to have fun. You open to marriage again? You know, marriage can be great. But I think I did it, and i'm good on that um exactly what lala said yeah verbatim she's like i did it it was great i did it it was it's good when it's good but i don't
Starting point is 00:23:37 know if i believe anymore and no offense to the people that are married um same thing really no i just ah you know i don't know if i should even say this but i just feel like as humans individual souls on a spiritual level, that what marriage means to a lot of people kind of stunts growth. What do you mean? Individually, as a person. Because if you're married to someone that's on the same level with you with this, then it's perfect. But if you're married to someone that doesn't think that you need to be somewhat
Starting point is 00:24:30 interactive with another human at some point. Oh, so you're basically saying you don't believe in monogamy? Absolutely, I do. Oh, okay, okay. Where did you get that from? Because she said you can't... No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
Starting point is 00:24:43 Interact doesn't mean... Yes! What is wrong with you? Doesn't mean intercourse. No, no, no, no, no, no, no. Interact doesn't mean. Yes. What is wrong with you? Doesn't mean intercourse. No, no, no. Who thought intercourse was what you said? No, no, no. I heard her say interact.
Starting point is 00:24:51 I thought she was saying it in a nice way. No, no, no. Interact is not intercourse. She said it's a career in life. Yes. That's what I got. Oh, okay. Just having a conversation.
Starting point is 00:25:00 Hold on. For instance, okay, here's a perfect example. And I thought this was so dope. I recently went to Qatar and not knowing anyone but wanting to do things. My friend connected me with his friend who was a married man, but who's also like super cultural, like he he knows what to do, where to go. He literally picked me up. We connected on WhatsApp. He picked me up. He took me to everywhere I wanted to go. We spent the day together. Did all these things like restaurants, malls, all this stuff. And then he introduced me to his wife. And his wife was super cool.
Starting point is 00:25:41 I was like, thank you so much for letting me borrow your husband. It was dope. I don't think thank you so much for letting me borrow your husband. It was dope. I don't think a lot of people are prepared to understand that dynamic, that human, that very necessary human interaction. What do you think? Would Gia be okay with that, Envy? For you having a tour guide? Not being the tour guide.
Starting point is 00:26:04 Him being a tour guide. For a woman that he's never met before. I wouldn't put myself in that predicament, but it's a no. Unless I knew the person. Like, if I know the person personally, then my wife would never call me. Majority of my friends are women. But if it's somebody that I don't know
Starting point is 00:26:19 and just flying in, fuck no. See? Not in a zillion years. Yeah, that's different. And it what I mean? And it was different. I was even like, wow. Okay, let me... She just heard about it and called.
Starting point is 00:26:33 She said, what? Right. Who'd you say? Who'd you say earlier? That is hilarious. Oh my God. Would you be okay with that
Starting point is 00:26:44 with somebody you were dating? It would have to be. Because if that person, you know, he was hitting his wife the whole time. I would want to be in a situation with someone that I trust enough to go do that. Absolutely. You feel like you could trust somebody that much, though? Yeah. Is it hard for you to trust?
Starting point is 00:27:04 No. He didn't try to holler. Well, he wouldn't say anyway, right? He didn't try to holler. No, no that much, though? Yeah. Is it hard for you to trust? No. Because I mean. He didn't try to holler. Well, he wouldn't say anyway, right? He didn't try to holler. He didn't try to holler. No, no, no, no, no. Because people have told me that men and women can't be friends.
Starting point is 00:27:13 That is a damn lie. I don't agree with that either. I don't agree with that either. I have 95% of my friends circling women. I have great male friends. And some people also. But I'm also not throwing myself and giving sexual energy to these people. You know?
Starting point is 00:27:24 Like, I didn't give him any sexual energy. It was like, I knew he was married and was like, I wasn't, I wasn't, I didn't look at him that way. Right. You know? Just thank you for helping him. Right. And some people also feel like they don't want to make new friends either. Because I've heard that a million times.
Starting point is 00:27:40 That's so problematic. That's some other new culture. Who is this random new person? Culture stuff. It's like, no new friends. How are you going to grow? How are you going to evolve? Sometimes your newer
Starting point is 00:27:51 friends you might like better than your old friends. For real. You feel obligated to be friends with. The guy that picked you up, he has to be... You're still thinking about it. No, because I'm thinking about it now. If a family member called and said, hey, I have a friend coming in town, that means that person means something to you. Yes.
Starting point is 00:28:08 So that means that, yes, I would go pick them up and do something. Because other than that, I'm trying to think if I would pick somebody up that I didn't know, but I would only do that if a close friend said, hey, this is my sister. Absolutely. Please look out for her. Or this is my so-and-so. So, yeah, I can see that happening. But his wife still
Starting point is 00:28:27 didn't have to agree. Mm-hmm. That's true. Could you deal with a man right now that hasn't done any work on himself? Like, never been to therapy, not on no journey
Starting point is 00:28:36 of healing, nothing? Mm-hmm. I don't have the time. Mm-hmm. Or the energy. I have one son. Mm-hmm. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:28:47 You think you've been in love again? Yeah. Look at her blushing. You in love now? It seems like it. Even for me now, in love is also very different. You have a new definition of it?
Starting point is 00:29:01 Yeah. Okay, what is it? I think in love is kind of like an infatuation. It's very temporary. I don't want to say temporary. Some people do say they've been married for years and they're still in love. But I do kind of think that it could be selfish. It could be very, what's the word, conditional in love. Like what happens if that person does something that doesn't make you so happy? Are you still in love with them?
Starting point is 00:29:38 So for me, it's like when I get into these relationships and in the love starts coming into play it's always about will I be able to be okay with you even if you do something that I can't stand you know like I love my son if he does something I I don't like I'm still gonna love my son am I gonna look at you that way can we get through that so for me that is more important than being in love could you date somebody in the industry again i wouldn't want to i haven't why not i know why not but you wouldn't rule it out you said you don't know why not because you just know i do know why not i Sexually transmitted to demons in the industry. Why not? Why? And I mean,
Starting point is 00:30:28 this could apply to everyone in this room because we are industry people. That's amazing. I just think that we are jaded in a way. We've been overexposed. A lot of our purity has been tainted. But that's not just this industry. That's in life, I feel like.
Starting point is 00:30:54 Music industry is a little different. It's music industry, so I'm different. It's a little different. And people change as they get older, too. I feel like there's a time when everybody's going wild and then everybody calms down. That's what everybody in therapy now seems like. Maybe like
Starting point is 00:31:07 some forbidden fruit wouldn't be bad. I'm okay with that. But it's like, like you said though, the person just really has to be aware. I think we're all aware of our things. It also has to change too. You think about when we all came up together, right?
Starting point is 00:31:24 It was a wild time. That's what we seen. Fun and wild. There was nothing showing us the other side. Yeah. But now that's starting to change. You're starting to see that more. True.
Starting point is 00:31:34 Which is a way better thing, you know? True. But, yeah, I don't know. It's just something about the whole, even the word music industry. It's like, I don't think I want to deal with anybody in the music industry. I just said the song Forbidden Fruit. Now, I read that part of that is also somebody told you you taste like a sweet fruit. He said fruit.
Starting point is 00:31:58 Jesus, Angela. Is that true or false? No, everything that I write about is true. Okay. Yeah. What fruit was it? Don't give out your secrets. That's a whole other book.
Starting point is 00:32:10 I will. No, it is a whole other book, and I actually wanted to do a whole little thing on it. A whole book on forbidden fruit? No, about self-care. Oh, okay. Damn it. You have to do a whole book on it.
Starting point is 00:32:25 About how to take care of yourself Oh, okay. Damn, baby. She's having to do a whole book on it. I said, okay. About how to take care of yourself and, you know, how to taste good, you know? Yeah. That was like lip service. Yeah. Mashana did lip service. I figured that, yeah. It was so much fun.
Starting point is 00:32:45 Well, you want to play a joint off the album? What you want to play? Complicated? I want to play Complicated. Okay. She, by the way, first time directing a video. Yes. So that's huge.
Starting point is 00:32:52 So make sure after you hear the song, go look at the video too, if you haven't already. I love it. I love it so much. I did want to ask one more question about purity, though. Like, what is purity? Because I don't feel like anybody can be pure. I don't think no human on this planet could ever be pure. So what is purity? I don't feel like anybody can be pure. I don't think no human on this planet could ever be pure. So what is purity to you?
Starting point is 00:33:11 I think purity, well, I know purity for me is like I said, loving someone unconditionally. Not expecting, just really taking them for who they are. Not coming down on them every time they do something that irritates you, but learning how to manage yourself.
Starting point is 00:33:33 You know, checking yourself. Why does this irritate me? And when you exchange energy with someone on that level, that's pure. And it's rare. All right. Well, Mashanda, ladies and gentlemen. That's pure. And it's rare. That's real. All right. Well, Mashanda, ladies and gentlemen. It's getting complicated.
Starting point is 00:33:49 If you're late, she's going to be pure and not come down on you. Jesus Christ. My God. All right. Mashanda, it's the Breakfast Club.
Starting point is 00:33:58 Good morning.

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