The Breakfast Club - Mayor Ras Baraka Interview

Episode Date: April 9, 2015

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Real people, real celebrities, real talk. Join the Breakfast Club. Weekday mornings, 6 to 10. Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy, Angela Yee, Charlamagne Tha God. We are the Breakfast Club. That's the blast off in your head. Weekday morning, 6 to 10. Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy, Angela Yee, Charlamagne Tha God. We are the Breakfast Club. We got some special guests in the building with us this morning. Yes, sir.

J.D. Williams, actor. Yo, what's up? And Mayor Ross Baraka. What's going on? Good morning, guys. Good morning, good morning. J.D., you know our associate producer said you are the reason that she started dating light-skinned thugs. Yeah, well, that would be messed up.

Because of your role on The Wire. No, she told me that story. She said she thought I was a thug at the time and she dated a blood and she said she fixed him. Wait, what? She said she fixed him up.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. What was her name? Sasha. Sasha. She said she was watching me on Oz when I was younger. You know, I played a crazy character

and she said she was looking for a boyfriend. She found some dude. He ended up being a blood and all types of craziness but she said she fixed him up. She got him to turn his life around and everything. So see, something all types of craziness. But she said she fixed him up. She got him to turn his life around and everything.

So see, something good came out of that. So she wanted to date a guy in jail after seeing you. That's what she did, man. That's what she did. Hey, man, that wasn't me. That wasn't me. But you know, something positive came out of it at the end. So that's good.

She working with y'all now. You know what I'm saying? She made it here. She was in jail. She's part of our charity. I'll get back to that. That's what's up. That's what's up. That outreach program. Now, we also have the mayor of Newark, New Jersey.

I haven't had to call him yet, because I told him I will call him if I had to, and I haven't had to call him. I've been all right in Newark. Good, good, good. Now, what do we got going on? You got a new program that we're doing now? Yeah. Let's talk about it. This is from Youth One Stop. So we have Department of Labor workforce dollars that are usually used for training people to find jobs in the city of Newark.

So we have one that's called the One Stop for Adults. Then we have a Youth One Stop for Younger Kids. And we have JD and a few others, Rod Digger, that are teaching classes to young people, acting, music industry, photography, teaching them the ins and outs of the business, which I think is great. And there's a lot of young people who are excited about it, wanting to be in the program. We have to find a way to expand it because there's so many people that are interested in being a part of it. Then once they finish that, they go into some kind of vocational training after that. So we're trying to get them on the right path and not just jump into it and say, well, I want to be a rapper. I want to be an actor and just out there.

So they need to have some kind of skills behind it. And these guys are doing a great job, and they're giving back to the city, and we love them for it. That's dope, man, because Idle Mind is a devil's playground, and these kids, especially in Newark,

need something else to do. You don't know? Yeah. Yo, I mean, well, it was funny. I started, as a matter of fact, I was on an audition. I ran into Charlamagne sometime last year, and I was telling him I was starting an acting class,

but that was geared at adults. And once the city got winded, I was looking for some place to hold it you know I met up with some people they talked to me we look hooked up with Ross and Middy his brother and they were like look you know we can get this towards the kids because they kind of needed more and you know right now there's no extracurriculars there's no way like he said it's the devil's playground when I don't have anything to do you know so we like yo let's give them something to do let's give him something to focus on and i'm glad like i said first off let me say i'm glad to be sitting here with this man right here the mayor of new jersey ross baraka ever since i was a kid we always been waiting for him to be the mayor so they love him

in new york yeah so i'm glad i'm i mean through his father you know amiri baraka up to him like i'm very proud that this man has made it you know to the position that he is in the city I know he gonna fight for us 100% so just for us to be all

you know coming together and working together and getting this done it's like amazing and I just wanna make sure that something you know

positive comes out comes out of it I know we gonna get a couple more stars out of it you know Newark we always generating

somebody whether it's Tisha Savion Mike B. Jordan myself whatever somebody always coming out of there. Well, you know, the one thing about Newark, we joke about Newark a lot about it being, it's crime.

But you cleaned up Newark a lot. And how difficult was it to clean up Newark? It's getting there. No, it's getting there. Got a lot of work to do. Got a lot of work to do. It's eight months. Now, I go out and I eat in Newark now.

My kids play basketball in Newark in the AAU team. So I do a lot of parties in Newark. It is cleaning. It's way better than it was. Well, we do what we can, man. Programs like this help us out a lot. We put more police on the street, but more importantly, the things that happen that are not dealing with law enforcement is

what helps us move. Creating jobs for people, opportunities for them to go to training, to meet people like JD, to talk to young people, to give them opportunities to do something different than just be in the streets all day. I mean, that's what we have to do. The more programs that we have like this targeting towards high school kids, elementary school kids, out-of-school kids who dropped out,

who need places to go to be reengaged in society, all those programs help us to reduce crime and make the environment better. You don't look stressed out at all, man. I know it's only been eight months. Oh, no, I'm not stressed out at all. It's stressful, but I't look stressed out at all man i know it's only been eight months it's stressful but i'm not stressed out and it's another thing as far as people always stay we're trying to stun on look like it's a lot of money coming through north right now corporate wise yeah just all of that is going on and you know i think what was it three summers ago was the summer

of death yeah yeah just three summers ago before he got in office we had what we called the summer of death it was just crazy over there. I'm talking about modified handguns and all types of craziness. So just for us to come from there to here, like you said, you got it to the point where it's tolerable. Where you're like, yo, I can have my kids go through it. I know how to maneuver through Newark now. We have tournaments in Newark. My kids play in Newark, and I feel comfortable at it.

I have a beautiful community center, one of the best I've ever seen in this area. I mean, they have everything from rock climbing there, basketball. Oh, yeah, you talking about grafting? I don't know where it is. You must be talking about grafting. Yeah, that's what's up. That's where I'm from. Yeah, that's where I'm from.

That's where I'm from. But, yeah, man, and it's like I said, we're coming a long way, and it's slowly but surely it's picking up, but it's definitely not like it was, you know, so that's— I think also the OG, you know, gang members out there are realizing that wasn't the way. And they're teaching the kids like, yo, y'all can't be out here just killing each other. Like they've got a different mindset, some of them. Well, for the mayor, for Rasparaka, didn't you sit down with some of the gang members and set up a meeting?

I remember reading about that. Yeah, many times. But when I was the mayor, we did it. And I think that about that. Yeah, many times. But as the mayor, we did it. And I think that's effective. And we have a program called NVRI, Newark Violence Reduction Initiative, where we talk to the parolees and people, violent offenders, trying to get them social services and other programs. We also talk to them about what's happening in the community and where we're trying to go, where we're taking Newark. And you guys are like an obstacle to it. We can't do the development we need.

We can't create the opportunities and jobs for children, for your families. If you're going to continue to shoot the neighborhood up, nobody wants to come and be a part of the city. So we have those kind of frank, open conversations that they probably never even had in their life before, you know, especially not with the mayor present saying, listen, you know, we're trying to build a community center here. You can't be hanging out here shooting people like this. Can't this not going to work? You're going to help us or you're going to go to jail. Like, one or the other, but you have to be a part of this community, and we want you to be a part of the community in a positive way. Would a program offer any other alternatives other than just athletics

and, like, entertainment? Oh, yeah, we have a lot of workforce development programs in the city. In the summertime, we're doing a coding program for young people within JIT. We're doing urban design kind of program for about 800 kids that we're organizing now. So we're trying to increase the summer youth employment this summer and get more kids involved in these kind of training programs. Specifically targeted, again, out of kids who more than likely may not finish high school in a traditional way, trying to grab them before they decide that they want to make crime a career,

because that's what a career criminal means. You're making crime a career, that we have to give you another career besides crime. And so we're looking for money. The financial institutions have been involved. The banks have been involved. Other nonprofits and all of the philanthropic organizations have been involved trying to raise the revenue we need to put these kids to work in the summertime and get them the kind of workforce training that they need. For you, J.D., you went to a performing arts school, right? Yeah, I went to arts high school.

Yep. Right there on Martin Luther King, downtown Newark. Like I said, a lot of us came out of there. What made you decide to go there? Was your parents like, okay, you go. No, actually, like, it was just a blessing that I ended up there because I actually was going to go to. Back then, we had a science high, we had university high, we had arts high. And I was more into science. You know, I mean, I was always acting in schools that I was in, but I figured that I wanted to be a scientist.

So I tried to get into science at university. Things was wrong with my application, like where I was living and all types of craziness. And I ended up going into arts and it was like, you know, I got accepted right away. And then I got there and I just ended up so involved in what it was I was doing and being a drama major that everything just kind of took off from there. When do you think Newark went left? Because you know, you're from Newark. When did it go left? Because I remember when I was young, we used to go walk around downtown newark you know coming from south carolina then once somebody was like nope you can't go to newark no more yeah um well it was i say it was after the 98 was like

remember 98 that was pretty good year for all of us you know what i'm saying it kind of blew up so i say somewhere around 2000 maybe you know people started having i don't know less care or less respect about whatever was going on but then there's that disparity between having a father around 2000, maybe, you know, people started having, I don't know, less care or less respect about whatever was going on. But then there's that disparity between having a father figure or role models or mentors, you know, male mentors. And so once that, once that happened, where like we used to listen to our old heads, you know what I'm saying? Like, but once that, that age group of kids came up past 10 to about 12 and they wasn't listening to us anymore, or we wasn't talking to them anymore,

however it went. That's when everything kind of went, you know, left. So I'd say somewhere between 2000, 2005, stuff started getting like kind of rough. But it's a cycle. You know what I'm saying? You learn, you know, they learn,

they grow up because now they're growing up and they're in a position where they got to try to force the little heads to listen to them. So, you know. And you guys have had a lot of events there recently. Black Girls Rock was there last weekend. Oh yeah, it was excellent. That was beautiful. Will Smith, Jada. So, you know. And you guys have had a lot of events there recently. Black Girls Rock was there last weekend.

Oh, yeah, it was excellent. That was beautiful. Will Smith, Jada, Jill, everybody was out there. Yeah, it was incredible, too. Now, Newark also has a lot of prime real estate.

It's right by the water. Now, are you scared of losing that to big investors and people that are not necessarily from the community? No, not at all.

I mean, first of all, Newark is not like these other cities where the population is so condensed and heavy that you have to put people out in order for other people to come in. So we can stand another 100,000, 200,000 residents in the city comfortably. Newark, at one point, had almost a half a million people in it. Right now, we're about 300,000. So we have opportunity for more business, more investment. We're trying to bring more manufacturers, big box industries to the city of Newark.

We are a prime location for manufacturing. You know, we have the third largest seaport in the nation there. Mostly all the goods and services that come through this Trostead area come through the Newark seaport. We have an international airport. The transportation in the city is, you know, next to none. So the kind of manufacturing we're trying to, you know, create in the city is the type that has the trucking, that puts our people to work, that uses the seaport,

uses the transportation, uses the airport, and we want them to come, and they are coming. How Newark lose almost $20,000 a year? They got shot? That's stupid. They said they stayed. People start leaving. Oh, okay.

People leave the city. There was a trend where people began leaving cities. So after the Newark Rebellion in 67, and many people started moving to the suburbs. Now it's trending the other way. All over the country, everybody wants to live in the city. The millennials, they want to have convenience. They want to live next to the train station. They want to walk.

They want to have all of the amenities around their house where they don't have to get public, catch the train all the time or drive. You know, so they're coming back to these cities. And so Newark is a part of that. And New York is expensive. Hoboken is expensive. Jersey City is expensive. So people are looking for opportunities to have decent housing and safe environments where the amenities are right there. The pass chain is right there.

The New Jersey train is right there. I'm looking at downtown New crazy because like I mean I've seen it change a whole bunch of different ways but what it's turning into right now as far as having the Prudential Center down there and NJPAC down there and then all these people be coming through for these hockey games and I mean they don't just go there for the hockey games. They be walking around downtown North and I'm like wow yeah, they don't know no better. But that's good for us, you know, because we get to see them, they get to see us, you know, and

they fixing up downtown. We got all of the new type of strip mall coming up downtown. Whole Foods. Yeah, Whole Foods is coming in. I thought they put a Hotel Indigo. Oh, it's bad, too. That's nice, too. We have three more hotels coming downtown. Wow. Yep, yep, yep. It is.

It's about to happen. So with the programs, do y'all encourage industries, like all these new hotels and stuff that are coming up, do y'all encourage them to hire kids? Absolutely, absolutely. Indigo hired 90% of Newarkers. Wow. And what happened was when we found out the hotel was coming, they partnered with the city to create a hospitality program, hotel motor management program that we did in the city. And we trained the residents so they'd be able to get those jobs. And so the beautiful thing about it is we did that just for the Indigo, not knowing that three other hotels were coming.

And so we've been working and working and working. And so now we have three other hotels. So that program is going to live past the Hotel Indigo so we get more people through the program and hire the other hotels that are coming to the city. Do you give owners breaks for hiring Newark residents? That would be something that I'm sure a lot of people are coming. I open up a business, I hire Newark residents, a discount in taxes, a discount in this, a discount in that. Is that possible?

Well, right. It's possible. But right now, when you get a tax abatement or subsidies from the city, there's requirements. So most developers, most of them don't use all of their money or none of their money at all, as a matter of fact. And they get a lot of state and city subsidies. When that happens, or they get a tax abatement from us, which means they don't pay full taxes, they pay a pilot or payment in lieu of taxes. And if we grant them that, then in turn, they have to hire a certain percentage of Newarkers. And that's usually like 40%. But what we're doing now is we're working above that 40%, telling folks

that the jobs that you want, let us know in advance, and you will use our workforce dollars and train the people so they'll have those jobs and become available. What about people who want to get into nursing and medical field? We have a robust allied health work training program that we do with Essex County College right

now, and with Rutgers University. As a matter of fact in a couple of days we're going to do a press conference with beth israel uh uh ss county college in the city we're doing a pharmacology program where you could go and and take courses at uh ss county college or our workforce training uh place and get a job right in uh beth israel hospital at the end of it so all of our training programs have jobs at the end that's dope is a lot of people in Newark who know how to treat bullet wounds yeah university hospital yeah no he got to keep it breakfast club cuz I'm looking like this ain't the breakfast club right now I can't even

listen to y'all in the morning I'm taking my daughter to school y'all talking about oral sex at 730 in the the morning. I'm like, click. Oh, baby. Don't worry about it. You don't have oral sex at 7.30 in the morning? Of course, but I don't talk about it. What's next that can benefit the city of Newark that y'all doing, other than the programs? Well, my program, the one we're doing with the acting, we also offer photography, set building, and a whole bunch of, a host of other things, like I said, that we all trying to put under one hub. And that's just based on that thing.

He just did a State of the City address last week. It was crazy. Like, I mean, I felt the energy. He had me yelling at the end of it. You know what I'm saying? And right now he rebranded Newark, and instead of Brick City, we're going towards Newark 3.0 now. So I'm trying to get that wrapped around my head right now.

So y'all going to start seeing a lot of Newark 3.0, but, you know, I know he can tell you better than I can. Explain 3.0. Well, it's what we talked about, the millennials, the young youngsters that are out here that use the iPad, the Internet, that want amenities, they want space. And, you know, we're creating an opportunity using the infrastructure that we have under the ground, the fiber optic cables to create Wi-Fi in the city, free Wi-Fi in public places. It's taking the city to the next level, right? So creating more jobs for people using the manufacturing that we talked about, building quality housing to turn Newark into a place that you would want to live at, you know, a destination city that people want to come

to and keeping the same people in it at the same time. So not throwing people out, training them to be a part of a new Newark, a Newark 3.0. Like, you know, you get a new video game, which is the new video game. It's better than the old one. So the whole concept of Newark 3.0 is this is Newark at the next level in the next century. Bigger, better, brighter, badder. You think it's a negative connotation with the Brick City term? I do. I mean, well, I think it's outlived its usefulness, really. When I was a kid, I was Brick City all the way. It made you feel rugged, tough. I'm from Newark.

That's what's up. And it's really more about because we have so many projects in the city, more per capita than any city in America. As a matter of fact, that's why we were the Brick City. And everybody felt gritty and grimy about that. So we're not that anymore. We moved on. A lot of those projects are torn down. We're moving to the next generation, next opportunities. You have to be able to accept that.

Well, not really. So we're trying to advance the city without getting rid of the people. What I said, we don't want to get rid of Newarkers. We love the people, their families. We like JD and Rod Digger and all those folks. They're from Newark. Mike Jordan Digger and all those folks. They from Newark. You know, Mike Jordan, they went to the same high school. Newark has a lot of great people.

You know, we don't highlight them, and we're trying to highlight them now so the kids can see. We got great people that came from Newark, lived on your same block, lived in Grafton Avenue. Now they stars doing all kinds of things. You can do the same thing. But people from Newark, right? Well, East Orange, but yeah.

But she, her, her, Trench. East Orange is Newark. All of them. Yeah, you know, East Orange, Irvington, all of those, East Orange, Irvington, and Newark, they all, we all consider that one city, you know, pretty much so. Now, besides being mayor, is there a bigger run after you finish your Newark duties that you might be jumping into? Nah, man.

Slow down. I just been here a few months. I'm home, man. I'm home. I feel good in the seat driving the bus in Newark. You know, it feels good for me. It's the city of my birth where I was born and raised. You know, there's nothing, there's no better job in the world than I have right now.

All right. Well, we appreciate you guys for joining us. Yeah, let us know if you need us for the program. Absolutely. Oh, yeah. Oh, well, look, sometimes I'm definitely, I'm going to reach out. Like I said, sometimes, you know, I can't be there every time. know we doing the program so sometimes I do reach out to you know professionals that's already in like whether it's uh do it all from lords of the underground you know uh or whoever

it is that I have their number you know Al Thompson I'll say yo could you come and fill in you know because it's also like I said it's also good for these people to see other people like if you go to Atlanta they see Ludacris they see Jzy, they see all of those people all the time. You go to L.A., they see those people all the time. So to them, it's not that far away to be in the industry in their head. But where we from, y'all be right here, but we don't, you know, we don't get to see y'all because y'all driving by in the car, you know, you know better than to be hanging out.

They tell us not to stop at the lights, you know. You know what I'm saying? So they don't get to see y'all. Listen, I go to Newark, so I be in Newark, I be in Irvington, I be in East Orange. You know, but the kids don't get to see y'all, so they don't feel like it's close. So when they do see you, you see how big their eyes get. Like, oh, snap, that's it. And then they acting crazy.

Like, yo, bro, let me get this, you know, arm all around you. I was just in Newark. I had to bail somebody out of jail. See? There you go. Was it from New York? No, that was from Newark. But you got to make it more accessible to the kids, you go. But we got to make it more accessible to the kids.

We definitely got to make it more accessible to the kids. And that's why these programs is going on. I got to give a shout out real quick. Macmillius, META. We got the iArts. We call it iArts Media School. So we got to keep it going. Yeah, yeah.

Well, J.D. Williams, Roz Baraka, we appreciate you joining us. Mayor. Mayor. Roz Baraka. That's right. Y'all want to know what I'm doing? What are you doing? I'm saying,

I just quit. So you're just teaching classes. That's all I do now. I just hang out with the mayor, take my daughter to school in the morning. That's not a bad life, sir.

Nah, I'm not saying if you can afford it. Well, your sweater says you're a deadbeat. Yeah, deadbeat. Deadbeat season two. I'm on this right now. That's a Hulu show.

That comes out 420. You can binge watch all of the episodes of that. I don't think I'm supposed to tell y'all who the guest star is, but I'll say he was in the interview. I'll just leave it at that. I've never seen season one of Deadbeat. No, it's out right now. I never watched the whole season myself.

Okay, okay, gotcha. But yeah, season two come out on 420. I just did another HBO series called Crime. It's a miniseries with John Turturro. That's going to be dope. Oh, nice. They just keep typecasting you. The YAU is on the 420. I just did another HBO series called Crime. It's a miniseries with John Turturro. That's going to be dope. They just keep typecasting you. The Y.A. was on the street. Ozzy was in jail.

What are you going to be a cat? But see, but no. But check it out though. I'm moving up. I'm moving up. And my next thing, I'm going to be the garbage man. You know what I'm saying?

Yes. What? No, but y'all can catch me on The Good Wife too. I got an arc on The Good Wife. So I'll be wearing suits and doing all craziness on The Good Wife. And I got an arc on that right now.

And it's a couple other things, a bunch of films and stuff I'm producing. So just watch out. Did you ever get that role we went out for? Nah, man. I'm going to play Craig Robinson's brother. Yeah. You know, like, it was cool, though. It seemed like it was a cool show, though.

But, you know, we'll see how it comes up. But, yeah. But right now I'm just staying busy. So just watch for me. I'll be around. Okay. Congratulations. And you really influenced

A lot of girls To go and get a nice Little light skinned thug From jail Yo you gotta work for that though What's your role on crime though? Crime? No crime

Crime I'm not a criminal Uh What it is is uh I'm actually I don't wanna say I'm a racist But You hate white people No no

It's not even white people It's like he's Long story short Is that I witnessed a crime And now the DA And everybody's trying To get me to Get on the stand

And I'm just giving him A hard time about it You don't want to be a snitch It's not even snitching He just don't care To talk about it Like he's like I told y'all

I told y'all he was Going to kill a girl And he killed a girl And now y'all Bothering me about it So but give it a shot It was a British show First and they did

Really good in Britain And they redoing it with in america so uh yeah but it's gonna turn out to a pretty no i think uh crime will come out in the summertime because we just wrapped it last week so it should come out in the summer so okay all right it's the breakfast club mayor ross baraka and jd williams yes sir had enough of this country ever dreamt about starting your own i I planted the flag. This is mine. I own this. It's surprisingly easy.

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