The Breakfast Club - Michael Eric Dyson Interview and more

Episode Date: November 26, 2019

Today on the show we had Michael Eric Dyson stop by to promote his new book "Jay-Z: Made in America" as well with speak on Colin Kaepernick controversy and more. Also, we had actress Tina Lifford stop by where she spoke about inner fitness, outer beauty and more. Also, we flashed back to when Charlamagne gave "Donkey of the Day" to the side chick who burned down a mans house. Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Had enough of this country? Ever dreamt about starting your own? I planted the flag. This is mine. I own this. It's surprisingly easy. 55 gallons of water, 500 pounds of concrete. Or maybe not. No country willingly gives up their territory. Oh my God.

What is that? Bullets. Listen to Escape from Zakistan. We need help! That's Escape from Z-A-Q-istan on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. As a kid, I really do remember having these dreams and visions, but you just don't know what is going to come for you. Alicia shares her wisdom on growth, gratitude, and the power of love. I forgive myself. It's okay.

Have grace with yourself. You're trying your best. And you're going to figure out the rhythm of this thing. Alicia Keys, like you've never heard her before. Listen to On Purpose with Jay Shetty on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey guys, I'm Kate Max. You might know me from my popular online series, The Running Interview Show, where I run with celebrities, athletes, entrepreneurs, and their stories, their journeys, and the thoughts

that arise once we've hit the pavement together. Listen to Post Run High on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or? Breakfast Club, bitches. I'm glad they put y'all together. Y'all are like a mega force. Y'all just took over every... Wake your punk ass up. This is Chris Brown. I've officially joined the Breakfast Club. Say something, mother...

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Cause I might got it out the streets I keep a hundred racks inside my jeans I got rich on all these. I'm a big trip. Young on the corner that had to serve crack. Uncle friend and me some peas had they getting birds back. We came up on dirty money. I gave it a bird back. Cut off the rain and I get my new boots. Either you running y'all gang or your suit. Got a new all in 10 minute voodoo. And now that now, who knew? I put the new 4G's on the G. I drive into the bloody bottoms

is underneath. Because all my got it out the streets I keep a hundred racks inside my jeans I remember hitting a mall with a whole team Nine can't answer calls cause I'm all in I was waking up getting racks in the morning I was broke, now I'm rich, deep, salty I been waking up to get the money, whoa, whoa

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I got brothers. I got brothers. I got out. I've been ballin' Now I be ballin' Now I be ballin' Now I be ballin' Now I be ballin' Yeah, yeah Wake up, wake up With your ass This is your time to get it off your chest Whether you're mad or blessed We want to hear from you on The Breakfast Club.

Hello, who's this? Yo, it's Anonymous. Anonymous, get it off your chest, bro. Yeah, I want to talk about basically the difference between the term sex and gender. Okay. So basically, sex is basically what refers to the penis or the vagina. So that's what determines if you're female or male, not gender. Gender is basically different attributes that you have

that society determines whether you act feminine, masculine, or something in between. So that's why people say there's more than two genders, which is true, but there's not more than two sexes. The only two sexes are female and male, but there's more than two genders. The only two sectors are female and male, but there's more than two genders because you can determine how you feel. Yo, I ain't got time for all this wokeness this morning,

bro. What you talking about, man? I don't even know what you talking about right now. What I'm saying, is that basically when people refer to gender, they're really referring to sex because there's a difference between sex and gender. Who referred to... Alright, man. I'm awake, but I'm not woke. I'm awake'm awake, but I'm not woke.

I'm awake this morning, but I'm not woke, bro. I don't even know where that came from. These woke people are so tired. They need some sleep. I don't know what he's talking about. Alex! What's up? What's up?

What's up? Get it off your chest, Alex. Who this? Envy the Don? Yes, sir. What's up, bro? Envy the Don. My man, what's up? Envy the Don got that bread.

Jay-Z got that billion, huh? Yeah, Jay-Z got a billion. Oh, got a billion. Got a billion. How'd he a Billy. Got a Billy. How'd he get it? Do we learn from Jay or do we learn from Nissey Hussle? Which one? You said what?

Do we learn from Nissey Hussle or do we learn from Jay-Z? You learned from both of them. You had more than one teacher in school, didn't you? Yeah, hopefully you learned from a lot of people every day. Why y'all say such stupid things? Seriously, why do you wake up in the morning and just say things that you give no thought to whatsoever? So you only learn from one person throughout your whole life?

Nah, Charlamagne. We ain't got to go like that, Charlamagne. I'm just saying, you know what Nipsey Hussle learned from his OGs? He learned from Elijah Muhammad, Message to the Black Man.

Elijah Muhammad was always talking about doing for self and owning your own. So what are we talking about here? We learn from a lot of different people in life. Don't forget that bag to get that mail.

All right, man. Have a blessed day. Peace, bro. Y'all just pissing me off this morning forget that bag. Forget that mail. All right, man. Have a blessed day. Peace, bro. Y'all just pissing me off this morning. What's up with y'all this morning, man? They're getting it off their chest, Charlamagne. Let's just let them talk. They do sound a little stupid this morning.

Michael! Hey, how's it going, brother? Good morning, everybody. Good morning. Good morning, neighbor! Get it off your chest, Michael. Yeah, I'm calling from Delaware Beach. I'm on my way to work today.

It's a long way, but I love you guys. I'm calling from Delaware Beach. I'm on my way to work to Davie. It's a long way, but I love you guys. I'm always listening to the show. You guys are amazing. Thank you, sir. We appreciate you, man. You're welcome. Shalom, I love you, brother.

I appreciate the work and everything, man. We love you, bro. I love you, too, my brother. Thank you. Appreciate you, King. Dan. Hello. Hey, what's going on, Shalom, man? Good morning. How are you, sir? What's happening, King? Good you, King. Dan, hello. Hey, what's going on, Charlemagne?

Good morning. How are you, sir? What's happening, King? Hey, good morning, man. I was at USP Edgefield when you were on Wendy Williams' show, man. Come on, man. I remember you, man. Is that a jail?

Okay. Yes, yes. Well, I did 188 months in the Fed. First time. Well, welcome home. I did from, yes, yes. Well, I did 188 months in the Fed. First time. Well, welcome home. I did from, yes, sir. I did from 99 to 2014. Damn. And then from 2014 to two weeks ago, a supervised release.

I had to do 60 months of supervised release. Wow. Lord have mercy. What did you do? Yeah, I couldn't even call a person like you. If I called you, I would have got violated on my supervisor's release. But what did you do? What did you do, bro?

Man, I'm going to be honest with you. I sold some guns to somebody. They robbed the bank. And guess what? They introduced me to an undercover, and I sold him 900 pounds of marijuana. And guess what? That's what they got me on, and they banned me. Guns and marijuana.

And why you don't write a rap album? I mean, it is what it is. You know, I mean, I had to wear it. I had to do my time. And I remember when you were just listening to, I mean, you were on Wendy Williams' show for like four hours. I was in Edgewood, South Carolina. Yes, sir. And it was crazy.

And honestly, I could not call a radio station while I was on paper. Well, you still had to do 60 minutes. Well, something he said back then is still on your mind because you know we've been in Breakfast Club for 10 years. So what did he say 15 years ago that you're still with right now? Man, I'm going to be honest with you. You went off on, was it Crazy Bones? I can't believe it.

Hold up, man. Hey, it was Flavor Flav. That's all I can't believe it. Hold up, man. Hey, it was... Flavor Flav. That's all I'm going to say. One of the Bones. Bro, you know that's 17 years ago, bro. You got to let it go. That was 17 years ago.

I don't think I ever went off on one of the Bones, but I will say this. I appreciate your enthusiasm because I can tell that you missed doing regular things like just picking up the phone to call the radio station. So you're really appreciative to be able to do that now. Man, and I'm going to be honest with you, you know, on this Twitter thing and all these other things, man,

I've just been clout chasing, doing everything what everybody else does. Oh, boy. But I'm just seeing how the – I'm going to be honest with you, man. Why do you keep saying you're going to be honest? What are you lying about? That's what he said before he was locked up. Let him go, Charlamagne. You know what I'm talking about, brother?

It sounds like this is a conversation you want to have with Charlamagne. You hold on. I'll give you Charlamagne. I ain't done no. He got to catch up. There's a lot of things he got to catch up on. Hold on, man. There's a lot of things he got to catch up on.

He's been listening to you 20 years ago. And I appreciate that. You know what I'm saying? You got to fill him in. I appreciate that I've been doing radio that long, and there's been people that's been listening to me that long. I appreciate it. You got to fill him in, Charlamagne.

This is 20 years ago. I'm sure he got baggy jeans and a beeper still. You just got to help him out. That Twitter thing. That Twitter thing. Tell him hit me up on that Twitter thing. My goodness. All right.

Get it off your chest. 800-585-1051. If you need to vent, hit us up right now. It's The Breakfast Club. Good morning. Is your country falling apart? Feeling tired?

Depressed? A little bit revolutionary? Consider this. Start your own country. I planted the flag. I just kind of looked out of like, this is mine. I own this.

It's surprisingly easy. There's 55 gallons of water for 500 pounds of concrete. Everybody's doing it. I am King Ernest Emmanuel. I am 55 gallons of water for 500 pounds of concrete. Everybody's doing it. I am King Ernest Emmanuel. I am the Queen of Ladonia. I'm Jackson I, King of Capraburg. I am the Supreme Leader of the Grand Republic of Mentonia.

Be part of a great colonial tradition. The Waikana tried my country. My forefathers did that themselves. What could go wrong? No country willingly gives up their territory. I was making a rocket with a black powder, you know, with explosive warhead. Oh my God. What is that?

Bullets. Bullets. We need help! We still have the off-road portion to go. Listen to Escape from Zakistan. And we're losing daylight fast. That's Escape from Z-A-Q-istan on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, guys. I'm Kate Max.

You might know me from my popular online series, The Running Interview Show, where I run with celebrities, athletes, entrepreneurs, and more. After those runs, the conversations keep going. That's what my podcast, Run High is all about. It's a chance to sit down with my guests and dive even deeper into their stories, their journeys, and the thoughts that arise once we've hit the pavement together.

You know that rush of endorphins you feel after a great workout? Well, that's when the real magic happens. So if you love hearing real, inspiring stories from the people you know, follow, and admire, join me every week for Post Run High. It's where we take the conversation beyond the run and get into the heart of it all.

It's lighthearted, pretty crazy, and very fun. Listen to Post Run High on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. As a kid, I really do remember having these dreams and visions, but you just don't know what is going to come for you. Alicia Keys opens up about conquering doubt, learning to trust herself and leaning into her dreams. I think a lot of times we are built to doubt the possibilities for ourselves. For self-preservation and protection it was literally that step by step and so I discovered that that is how we get where we're going. This increment of small, determined moments.

Alicia shares her wisdom on growth, gratitude, and the power of love. I forgive myself. It's okay. Like grace. Have grace with yourself. You're trying your best and you're going to figure out the rhythm of this thing.

Alicia Keys, like you've never heard her before. Listen to On Purpose with Jay Shetty on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you off your chest. Hey, I just want to say that, hey, Charlamagne's right. I think you are Dominican, and I'm going to give you proof why. When YG was there and he was giving those Spanish words, you were the first one answering all of them. You knew all the Spanish words. Angel, that wasn't me.

That was Dramos, the board op. That is not true. Why don't you stop? Claim your people. That wasn't me. That was Dramos, the board op. That is not true. Why don't you stop? Claim your people. That wasn't me. That was Dramos. Angel, are you Dominican? No, I'm Salvadorian.

Okay, I thought you wanted to claim Envy. No, I don't want to claim it. Why would I want to claim Envy? Oh, you don't want him to be Salvadorian? Maybe he's Salvadorian instead. Oh, maybe he is. Hey, come on, Envy. Just own it.

Just teach me a sentence, man. Say something and I'll repeat it. Me gusta el desayuno. Si. Okay, I got that. What'd he say? He said, I like breakfast. Oh.

Hello, who's this? What are we, comedians? Shayna. Hey, Shayna, get it off your chest. I just want to thank God for this day. That's right. You know, I know. Look, I thank God for this day,

for this job. I'm so blessed. I'm highly favored. I got my own business. And I just want to thank God. That's all, guys. Shana, Shana, you're not just blessed and highly favored. You're blessed black and highly favored. You're absolutely right. I am blessed black and highly favored. And I just want to thank God for it. Thank you, mama.

Hello, who's this? What's up, Envy? This is E from Asheville, North Carolina again. What's up, bro? You started your business this weekend? Man, I started my business this weekend. It's a hot dog cart called Bunny LLC. Bunny LLC.

I like that. That's dope. Congratulations, sir. You should have came out to the seminar, man. You would have had over 1,000 people wanting some hot dogs, brother. Oh, yeah, man. That's what I'm waiting on, man. I got to get you this money, man. You would have had over a thousand people wanting some hot dogs, brother. Oh, yeah, man. That's what I'm waiting on, man. I got to get you this money, man. I ain't mad at you. Hey, man, I want to thank y'all, man. You, Charlemagne,

Angela Yee, man, how you be a family guy, man. I really love that, man, and there's a lot of family men out here that look up to that, man. Keep going. Keep doing that. Charlemagne, man, you just keep us inspired and everything. Angela Yee, I love you. You're beautiful and everything, baby. I would like

all y'all to take a look at Black Alachan. He hiked the Appalachian Trail and he biked the Underground Railroad. Black Alachan, he got YouTubes up and he just trying to show, you know, black people that we can hike and the world comes to an end, boy, we ain't gonna know how to do nothing. So, you know, check him

out. You ain't lying. All right, bro. Thank you, man. I say that all the time. If a nuclear bomb or something was to hit, like, how would people survive? People don't know how to fish. They don't know how to hunt. They don't know how to live off the land.

Nothing. CJ, good morning. Hey, DJ, what's going on, man? What's up, CJ? Hey, it's DJ. Oh, all right. What up, CJ? Hey, Envy, Solomon, Angela, you CJ? Hey, it's DJ. Oh, alright. What up, CJ? Hey, Envy, uh, Salamane

and Angela, you there? Yeah, they're here. Yeah, we're here every morning, 6am to 10am for nine years. Well, 6.05 to 10am. I got you. Hey, three things real quick. Angela, you are so beautiful. If I wasn't married, you'd be my woman, and you wouldn't be hiring me like you're doing your boyfriend.

And, um, you don't be hiring me like you're doing your boyfriend. Oh. Two. You don't have to say thank you or nothing. I'm not. Well, I'm going to thank you for dissing my boyfriend. No, I'm just saying you're beautiful. You'll be my woman if I wasn't married.

All right. Well, shout out to your wife. Black men don't cheat, bro. Go ahead. Yup, yup. But, hey, that's my second point. Last Tuesday, I was getting off of work, and I was trying to go see my side chick, and the first thing I hear in the car is,

black men don't cheat. I want to thank you, Lil Duval, and Charlamagne, because once I heard that song, I turned right around, man. That's right. We out here doing God's work, and you need to stop running around here like a little black boy and start being a real black man, because black men don't cheat, but black boys do. So you broke up

with your side chick? Yeah. I don't mess with her no more. It's not worth it. Exactly, sir. How old are you? 28. See what I'm saying?

You still in that phase. I understand, but you know, you got to be a black man, not a black boy, sir. Well, he's married. Right, right. And the last thing is,

everybody be slandering doing empty for your gay jokes, but I'm the same way. Like, I'm secure in my masculinity. I'm free to say and do whatever I want to do. The main ones who be fake mad and trying to diss themselves, those be the one on the down low.

All right. Listen, with that said, I want you to know that today is National Peaches and Cream Day, sir. All right? Oh, okay. A shout-out to 112. Hey, that be my dessert for tonight, sir. There you go. All right. Oh, okay. A shout-out to 112. Hey, that'd be my dessert for the night, though. There you go. All right.

And if you get a little cream on your bottom lip, just lick it off with your tongue like a real man. Hey, hey, that's what my side chick used to do. That's what I... Stop talking about your side chick, man. Grow up, sir. He misses her. All right.

Holla. Get it off your chest. 800-585-1051. If you need to vent, hit us up now. It's The Breakfast Club. Good morning. Get it off your chest. 800-585-1051. If you need to vent, hit us up now. It's The Breakfast Club. Good morning. The Breakfast Club. Is your country falling apart?

Feeling tired? Depressed? A little bit revolutionary? Consider this. Start your own country. I planted the flag. I just kind of looked out of like, this is mine. I own this.

It's surprisingly easy. There are 55 gallons of water for 500 pounds of concrete. Everybody's doing it. I am King Ernest Emmanuel. I am the Queen of Ladonia. I'm Jackson I, King of Capraburg. I am the Supreme Leader of the Grand Republic of Mentonia. Be part of a great colonial tradition.

Why can't I create my own country? My forefathers did that themselves. What could go wrong? No country willingly gives up their territory. I was making a rocket with a black powder, you know, with explosive warhead. Oh my God. What is that? Bullets.

Bullets. We need help! We need help! We still have the off-road portion to go. Listen to Escape from Zakistan. And we're losing daylight fast. That's Escape from Z-A-Q-istan on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

Hey guys, I'm Kate Max. You might know me from my popular online series, The Running Interview Show, where I run with celebrities, athletes, entrepreneurs, and more. After those runs, the conversations keep going. That's what my podcast, Post Run High, is all about. It's a chance to sit down with my guests and dive even deeper into their stories,

their journeys, and the thoughts that arise once we've hit the pavement together. You know that rush of endorphins you feel after a great workout? Well, that's when the real magic happens. So if you love hearing real, inspiring stories from the people you know, follow, and admire, join me every week for Post Run High. It's where we take the conversation beyond the run and get into the heart of it all.

It's lighthearted, pretty crazy, and very fun. Listen to Post Run High on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. As a kid, I really do remember having these dreams and visions, but you just don't know what is going to come for you. Alicia Keys opens up about conquering doubt, learning to trust herself and leaning into her dreams. I think a lot of times we are built to doubt the possibilities for ourselves. For self-preservation and protection, it was literally that step by step. And so I discovered that that is how we get where we're going. This increment of small, determined moments. Alicia shares her wisdom on growth, gratitude, and the power of love.

I forgive myself. It's okay. Like grace. Have grace with yourself. You're trying your best and you're going to figure out the rhythm of this thing.icia keys like you've never heard her before listen to on purpose with jay shetty on the iheart radio app apple podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts dj mv angela yee charlamagne the guy we are the breakfast club we got a special guest in the building yes sir gz what up doe welcome back come Back home, baby. Legend of the Snowman. Yes, sir. I'm ready. What's the expectations for you when you put together these Thug Motivation projects?

Because these are special projects to people. I mean, for me, it's just like, just making sure I'm in pocket. And it's a real body of work. You know what I'm saying? I kind of figured the game out now. It's like, you can't put a single out. You know what I'm saying? Because everybody's A&Rs.

So you just got to put the body of work out and just hope people take it. It's like, you can't put her single out. You know what I'm saying? Because everybody's A&Rs. So you just got to put the body of work out and just hope people take it. It's like a self-help book. If you can't take a chapter and put it out because that might not be the chapter they want.

You know what I'm saying? But I thought you retired. I thought, Jesus and Souls are part of the liquor company. We see you on islands, on boats, in Miami,

on the beach. You said you retired. First of all, Mr. Forbes list. You know what I'm saying? listen first of all first of all mr forbes list i gotta get as many cars as you before i start even talking like that i know but for me man it was like um you know it was one of them things where like you know i do music but i also want to do you know business like i'm i'm passionate about that because i understand it just coming from the block and learning how to get money, that's something that drives me, and it's like if anybody know anything about life, it's like when you come stagnant and you're just doing

the same thing, you know what I'm saying? It kind of like, it take away from who you are. Where's the best place you've been on vacation? That you would say, this is where you gotta go. Man, Europe. I just love Europe, period, man. It's just, you know, the food's different, the air's different, the moon's different. It's just different. I took one of my homies last time I went.

He never been. He's from, you know, he's straight from the hood. But just to see the look on his face, you know, just to see how life is just so different, you know what I'm saying? Just to live through him, because I've been there a couple times. I mean, just, it was real.

It was surreal. Have you ever cried somewhere? Have you ever been somewhere and been like, God damn, I'm really not on Auntie Portia no more selling that work? Nah, not yet. I guess I ain't been there yet. Yeah. I mean, but I've been in situations where I've sat back and realized how blessed I am.

Yeah, I've been there. When was the last time you felt that feeling of gratitude? Oh, man. Maybe a couple days I was on my flight and I was listening to the you felt that feeling of gratitude? Oh, man, like maybe a couple days. I was on my flight, and I was listening to the album, just kind of listening to the mixes and stuff. And I was listening to the intro track, The Entrepreneur. That's all?

Yeah. I thought it was Entrepreneur. Entrepreneur. Yeah. And I don't know. It just kind of really brought back memories, though, because I'm telling the story about that, and I'm just like, damn, you know, I really went through that.

But, you know, I'm still out here on my grind. But at the same time that, and I'm like, damn, I really went through that, but I'm still out here on my grind. But at the same time, it just really took me back in that memory lane. I'm like, damn, I just remember those hard times and going through all this stuff, and it's just like overcoming it. It's like sometimes you don't pat yourself on the back enough of overcoming things because you're so in real time. I talk to Tip about it all the time. It's like we accumulate so much, and we're so successful

in so many different ways. We don't take the time to look at the last accomplishment we did because we on to the next thing is that your favorite joining the album uh no man actually i love the the john legend song about my mother that was deep i can't you know i don't even listen to that one by the way so it's like when i wrote it i listened to it and they mix it i was done with it but i i definitely can't touch that one what's so hard about it i mean because you know my mother she's she's got a situation so she's not healthy right now and it's just like that record basically describes she's the real mvp and it's like um when i jumped off the porch i took a lot of my time trying to you know come up and take care of everybody and i ain't really take the time to

be her son and it's just like now she's not well so it's just like when I see people moving around taking their mothers on tour or vacation or doing things it's just like damn I gotta go see my mother in this place and it hurt because I miss all that time

I can't get none of it back I didn't get nothing but some money I didn't really gain much and i and i lost my mind but like i think every day for like giving me like morals and teach me what integrity was and how to be a man just like she she don't really get a chance to see me in that light but it's like because now i'm i'm of age and i have grew up so i ain't really with the you know but it's just like she ain't here to see that all right we got more with gz you know, but it's just like she ain't here to see that. All right, we got more with Jeezy when we come back.

It's The Breakfast Club. Come on. Good morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy, Angela Yee, Charlamagne Tha Guy. We are The Breakfast Club. We're still kicking it with Jeezy Yee. So, Jeezy, how are you now when it comes to shopping and clothes? Are you really into it?

Do you spend your money on it? Nah, man, I keep it G, man. Like, I try. I don't lie. I try. You know what G, man. Like, I try. I don't lie. I try. You know what I'm saying? Like, I try, man. You know, I might go buy some things, but my homies call me.

Like, I had some Balenciaga boots, man. And, man, listen, them things cause a mass hysteria, and I thought they was the flyest boots in the world. I got calls like, yo, what you doing one time? What you doing with them cowboy boots on? You thinking loose, man? I'm like, no. You thinking loose?

I wanted these boots. I wanted, I bought these. That was recently. I wasn't bought it. Oh, yeah, you little knob. You little knob. I'm like, yo, these is, we got the buckle on them like this is it.

You know, I'm thinking I'm on my Tupac. You know what I'm saying? I get calls. Trey Soans call me, tell me we got a group chat going. They're killing you because I'm a city chat going. They're killing you, cuz. I'm gonna send it to you. Like, yo.

I'm like, yo. So I called him. I called Trigna. I was like, yo, this is what I'm gonna do. I said, on the day the album comes out, I said, I want all y'all to come over. I said, I'm gonna get some wood. You know what I'm saying?

I'm gonna get some lighter fluid. You know what I'm saying? I'm gonna get everything I need. And I want you to come over to the crib. And on August 23rd, on the day the album comes out, I'm going to burn these boots in front of everybody because I need my friends back. Them boots cost me friends, man.

Them boots cost me friends. Yo, I swear, like, this is calling me like, OT, Jen, let's call me and tell your cousin what's up with you, man. Let me take a look at these boots again. The homies out here in L.A. want to know if you still solid. I'm like, yo, my man, they bless you. Like calling me like OT jitters come to your cousin so with you Did you fire the stylist after that Now let me ask you this since this is the last of the installment of Doug Motivation, and this is the last album on Def Jam, what's next? Ah, man, for me, right here, Figures Wireless.

This is like my new baby. I got the Defiance Fuel, Athlete Water, of course, like MVM Heavy and Real Estate, and obviously, Avion Tequila. And I got my agency, Agency 99, of course. Like, NVM Heavy and Real Estate. And, obviously, Avion Tequila. And I got my agency, Agency 99, which we manage artists, brands, and businesses. But, um... Musically? Yeah. What are you going to do musically?

Another deal? Are you going to have your own independent label? I mean, I just feel like I got the infrastructure to do whatever. But it's just like, for me right now, I just got to take some time to, like, really just I got my next 10, 15 year plan, but I just want to really see how I want to execute that. Because I look at people like Magic Johnson, I love Magic.

That's my mentor. You know what I'm saying? I just love the fact that he's solid. He lives his life. He got balance around him. He takes care of his friends in a way. He's giving them experiences. He's traveling. He's seeing the world. But if you look at other athletes that came up with him, they're not set up like that.

That just tells me that I got to move that way if that's what I want to be in 10, 15, 20 years because that's what I respect. You know what I'm saying? I love Allen Iverson and different people that I know that kept it real and was hanging out in strip clothes with me and all that. But then I have to look at somebody like Magic Johnson after

he was a great basketball player. Now he's a great husband. Now he's a great father. Now he's a great mentor. Now he's a great businessman. And I watched his moves. I remember when he had the HIV? No, no. We don't do that.

The Magic Johnson theaters. TGI Friday. We didn't see the move then you know we were just going like magic johnson but he was already making his moves and if you really think about atlanta all the history that had happened in business nightclub right so all the all the history that happened there he tore all that down and build you know uh high rises so he he was powerful enough to come take our whole nightlife away and build high rises on that street and give them to his son. You know what I mean? So I look at things like

that and I go, man, like, to me, that's the American dream. You know what I'm saying? So it's like, I, you know, I'm pretty cold at what I do. I think I'm in Charlamagne's top five, I know. So you gotta be hard to be there. But it's just like, is that the only contribution I want to make to the world?

I don't think so. Well, the album is out tomorrow. That's right. TM 104. TM 104. We appreciate you for joining us. Hey, man, I appreciate y'all for having me. Shout-out to Figures Wireless.

Shout-out to Defiance Fuel. Shout-out to New York City. Shout-out to AC99. Shout-out to The Breakfast Club. All right. Well, it's The Breakfast Club. It's Jeezy. Yes, sir. DJ Envy, Angela Yee, Charlam to The Breakfast Club. All right, well, it's The Breakfast Club. It's Jeezy. Yes, sir.

DJ Envy, Angela Yee, Charlamagne Tha God. We are The Breakfast Club. Now, if you just joined us, we were talking about Lil Wayne's daughter. Yes. Regine. Regine, Lil Wayne and Toya, Ry's daughter. And she went to this cucumber pool party, and she previously had been really not excited about these women

doing this cucumber challenge, so people were getting at her for being at the party. But she said, Okay, guys, I want to say this. I went to the party to spy on YFN Lucci. Females don't act like you never did it. But when I heard about the cucumber activities, I left. To be honest, I've made myself look like a fool for this man,

and I apologize for allowing you guys to see it. I'm young and still learning. Now, have you ever spotted your man before, Yee? Have I ever did a pop-up? That's the same thing as spy, whatever you guys to see it. I'm young and still learning. Now, have you ever spotted on your man before, Yee? Have I ever did a pop-up? That's the same thing as spotting, whatever you want to call it. Yeah, you know, I've done a pop-up. I don't try to think if I've ever gone to a party, but I've definitely popped up at his house.

I did that a couple of times. One time I actually climbed through the window. That's a real pop-up. And that's because I knew something was going on. And sometimes, even though we know things, we want to see it with our own eyes. I don't know why, but I guess that was really the end of it for me, to be able to see somebody doing something with my own eyes.

Yeah, I've done it once or twice. Charlamagne? Always. I grew up a very insecure young man. Me too. And when you were the type of person like me who was cheating on my woman, it made me feel guilty. So that, on top of my insecurity, I thought she was doing dirt when she wasn't. So yes, I popped up

at jobs. I popped up at dorms. I popped up at apartments. I popped up at class. Rolled my motorcycle right to her class. What do you think she was doing in class? I don't know. I don't know. You just want to see. Maybe she passing a note. Maybe she holding hands. Like as a guy, when a guy is already doing dirt, like

you automatically think your woman is just like, you know, sucking s*** everywhere. You know what I'm saying? Like, even if she's not, like, any can go down anytime, anyplace. So, yes. I've definitely had guys

pop up on me at parties. That was highly insecure. And, listen, I'll leave a party if somebody tried to pop up on me. I'll slide out

and be like, this is ridiculous. Or you pop up, like, you know, like I say, like, say, like, you know, my wife was in college. They used to be partying

at this place called Five Points. Five Points was all the college kids used to go on know, like I say, like, say, like, you know, my wife was in college. They used to be partying at this place called Five Points. Five Points was all the college kids used to go on Thursday night. I mean, anybody could go hang out there, but that wasn't really my scene. But you just pop up at a random place. Like, what are you doing here? Like, you know, you just be in Charlotte's Roost while she in there. Like, why are you in Charlotte's Roost? I don't know, just doing a little shopping.

What is Charlotte's Roost? It's a clothing store. Down south. But, you know, you just pop up in random places. You ain't got no business being. Why you at my OBGYN? Oh, I don't know. What?

Nothing. Hello, who's this? Hello, my name is Jasmine. How you doing? What's up, Jasmine? Queen of the pop-up. Jasmine is way too loud to be popping up on somebody. No, I definitely pop up on that ass.

But let me tell y'all, let me tell y'all. I'm really the pop-up queen, though. Let me tell y'all. I had a tracker on my baby daddy car for like three years, and he never knew it. Wow. He like, dang, he thinking that his friends put on them and everything like that. But really, he had no idea that I was just like tracking that ass all day, every day. I don't know how he couldn't figure that out when you were just

showing up places. Nobody puts a track on somebody's car. Clearly they do. Jasmine, you're crazy. Crazy as hell. Don't play with me. And you did that

for three years? He never knew though, right? He never knew. So listen, like one time he went out to eat with this girl. Like I said in the parking,

Jasmine, I let him eat at everything. They went back to his apartment, you know what I'm saying? Like, I'm just following him. Like, okay. So, this f***ing keeps me.

So, I just, you know, I just walk up to the apartment, knock on the door. They start turning off the lights and stuff, try to hide and stuff. I end up texting the girl on the phone, like, like, tell that f***er he got five minutes to come outside. I'm coming in that bitch. Damn. And, like, they scattered out that much. That's crazy that for three years he wasn't scared enough to stop doing the stuff he was bitch. Damn. And like, they scattered out that much. That's crazy

that for three years he wasn't scared enough to stop doing the stuff he was doing. Sharon. Yes. You ever popped up on an ex or a man

or your man? You know what? No, because if something is going on, I don't want to know about it. You get in trouble when you go looking for trouble.

But here's my story. So I found out that my soon-to-be ex-husband put his cell phone in my car. So one day I'm parked, and all of a sudden I just hear this music out of the blue, and I'm like, what is that? So I look at my back seat, and he shoved his cell phone in between my back seat so he could track me.

So he didn't have his cell phone on him. He just left it in the car. No, he had another cell phone in front of my iPhone. Yes, exactly. He had left it in the car. No, he had another cell phone. Oh, he had another. He had to find my iPhone. He had another. Yes, exactly. He had a second one. Dang. Wow, he had to charge that every day. That's smart, though.

Why did he not trust you? Was there a reason, or he just... His insecurities. All right, thank you. Exactly. D'Angelo. Yo, yo. You propped up on your wife, man?

Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Good morning, by the way. Good morning. He said good morning, first of all. I'm not crazy. What you do, D'Angelo? I ain't do nothing.

Well, yeah, I responded to what she did. She went out, and I didn't want her to go out. So I got my daughter in the truck, put my dog in the truck, and pulled up at the club on it. Called her in line. But the thing was, I knew that I brought my dog with me because I felt like I was going to have to go into the club. But I didn't have to go in the club, thank God.

But I got out, caused a little scene in the line, got her in the truck, and then we pulled off. Wow. You brought your dog. I brought my dog hanging out in the car. And your daughter. And me while I'm yelling at her. So you was going to bring your dog and daughter in the club to find her?

No, I was going to leave the dog and the daughter in the car while I was in the club. How old is your daughter? Oh, she was a baby, baby then. You was going to leave a baby in the car? So you're about to go to jail because of your own insecurities. One of them nights. One of those nights. Oh, my God.

Man, you should have just sent the dog in the club. This is awful. And he rationalized it But you know what My dog gonna watch My daughter while I Go in the club for a second Bruh I have the best

Guard dog in the world I wouldn't have did it Had my dog been Been lucky Won the Andy's Malinois But you know Alright man

I'm sorry that's too much Have a good one At least call a sitter I ain't gonna front That ain't a bad idea I leave the dog In the car with the kids. That's a terrible idea.

Shut up. What's the moral of the story? The moral of the story is get your insecurities together, bro. Okay? Trust me. I've been there. And I feel sorry for Reggie. But she young, though.

You know what I mean? So I get it. It's just happening so publicly for her. Yeah, you do stuff like that when you're young. When you have those insecurities and, you know, you just want to make sure somebody's doing it right by you, I get it. I get it. All right, we got more coming up next.

We're The Breakfast Club. Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy, Angela Yee, Charlamagne Tha God. We are The Breakfast Club. We got some special guests in the building. Yes, sir. We have Michael Eric Dyson, who has a book that's coming out. Jay-Z made in America.

Yes, sir. And a whole course on Jay-Z as well. That's true, too. Your timing couldn't be better. I mean, made in America. Yes, sir. And a whole course on Jay-Z as well. That's true, too. Your timing couldn't be better. I mean, from your mouth to God's ears. What is this book about? Well, you know, as Sister Angela was saying, I've been teaching a course on Jay for like the last decade

and nearly the last decade, I should say. And so I wanted to take what I've been doing in that class and put it in the book because it appeared to me as it should to anybody. When you're pouring over these lyrics, this dude is a rhetorical genius. He has verbal invention. He's got all kind of skills.

And the irony is, as great as people think Jay is, he's underrated. He's underrated because they don't understand the mechanics behind what he's doing, the kind of poetic rules and inventions, the use of metaphor, simile, how sophisticated it is. And then when you add in there the fact he don't even write it down. This book kind of is the finishing of a trilogy of figures who have been incredibly important and influential in the world of hip-hop. It's interesting.

You've been teaching this course at Georgetown for 10 years, and so much has happened in Jay-Z's life in the course of that 10 years. So how do you adjust to that as you come up with your syllabus every year? Yeah, that's a great point. Well, you've got to evolve, you know? And Hov is putting out so much work and putting in so much work and doing so many things because it's not just the music he's doing. It's what he's doing beyond the culture of hip hop itself, or it's especially beyond rap.

So his business ventures, his engagement in the world, his entrepreneurial, you know, exploits, his criminal justice reform stuff, all of that stuff. And then just the music itself, just the words themselves, the density of his poetic inventiveness is something that I'm preoccupied with. So every time out, you know, we focus on a different aspect or a different level of his creativity and look at new stuff he's done. How often do you guys communicate with each other? You know, pretty routinely.

You know, the best thing he did for me on this book, people say, well, did you just interview him? No, because I got my ideas. I don't need to interview Hov. I've been thinking about him for a decade. The most amazing thing he did for me was to allow me to quote from these lyrics so that I could stretch out and interpret them.

Because, you know, most publishers are very skittish. Only do half a sentence. You got to pay for it. You got to pay for it. Copyright. We might get sued. And so I reached out to him. I said, man, can you help me?

Can I live? God forgive me for my brash delivery, but I remember vividly what these streets did to me. Imagine me allowing you to nitpick at me, portray me like a pickany. So, you know, I had asked him, could he give me permission? And when he signed off, it blew my publisher's mind. But that's why even on the cover you see the lyrics to the OJ song embossed there. It's a pretty dope cover

I must say. I didn't do it but it's a pretty nice cover and we wanted to do something that was worthy of holding on the inside you can see that Basquiat influenced kind of artwork on the inside there so he gave permission to do that,

and that makes a big difference. Why is the book dedicated to Michael Rubin and Robert Frederick Smith? Yeah, well, you know, both of them are, interestingly enough, are connected to Jay. Okay. On his criminal justice reform, you know, reform alliance.

And, you know, Michael Rubin was instrumental in helping Meek Mill get out of jail. So for that alone, I got to give you some love Reform Alliance. And, you know, Michael Rubin was instrumental in helping Meek Mill get out of jail. So for that alone, I got to give you some love. Yeah. But then understanding that you got to leverage that to a larger issue that Jay is concerned about. Cash bails are jacked up. The kind of dysfunction of the criminal justice system

that saw Meek Mill go in and out of prison for parole violations for a decade for some nonsense when he was a child or a young teen or a teenager. And then, you know, to address that as, we used to call them owners, but partners of the Philadelphia 76ers is worthy of that. And Robert Frederick Smith, when you go to Morehouse and drop 40 mil on them. Yes, sir. And say, look, I'm going to take care of your bills. Yes, sir. And your future is vouchsafed and it's

secure as a result of what this gesture is about. I got to show love and respect. So both of them are connected to that reform alliance, but both of them have done significant things to advance the ball in terms of advocating for the future of young black men in America and young black people. What has Jay-Z gotten right in this whole NFL situation and what has he gotten wrong? Well, look, I think that, you know, people say, oh, he's sold out. He just messed up. First of all, he's rocking the Colin Kaepernick jersey. And then he turns around and he's telling other artists not to be involved in the Super Bowl,

and then he turns around, and he's advising them, and he's cutting a deal. I think what people misunderstand is that you've got to have a three-point shooter, and you've got to have baseline. You've got to have Steph Curry, and you've got to have LeBron going in and jamming the ball. And you've got to have people occupying both spaces, inside, outside. Martin Luther King Jr. standing outside. I have a dream criticizing the social injustices that prevail.

But then Martin Luther King Jr. going inside with Lyndon Baines Johnson, the president, and saying, how do we craft the Civil Rights Bill of 1964? How do we craft legislation for the Voting Rights Act? Now, the Voting Rights Act is brought into existence not because of the good graces of the presidency or the desire, even though LBJ wanted to do that. But he wanted to have a social condition that prevailed a political pressure brought to bear to make it sensible to do so. That's how things work. And so when Jay-Z is out putting pressure on the NFL, people don't give him credit for this,

that the fact that he said don't go do the Super Bowls and halftime shows and look, we in stadiums too. Yeah, NFL needs me. We don't need them. We in stadiums too. That puts pressure. They didn't just do it because of the goodness of their hearts. They saw this man Will's significant

economic influence and cultural power, and as a result of that, the pushback was genuine and palpable, so now they invite him in to have a conversation. What's he supposed to go? No, I want you to do right. Oh, but I'm not going to tell you what I think is right. Well, if I tell you what you're doing is wrong and then you invite me into the conversation to say what's right, I got to sit down and tell you.

So so for me, Jay-Z going inside is really responding to the pressure he brought to bear on the outside and sitting down talking about either the acts that are going on at halftime. All right. But the social justice agenda. And do we really doubt that Colin Kaepernick, whatever you think of that, Colin Kaepernick, a bold, amazing, iconic social justice figure, would never have had an opportunity to even have what is now a botched, you know, tryout and audition for the NFL without Jay-Z bringing pressure to bear. Now, the people who were critical of Jay said, well, damn, you think at least he could have done his got-my-man-a-job. First of all, that ain't high work.

Are you not understanding of how it works? Roger Goodell, who is the commissioner, can't even go to a team and make them do it. But can they leverage authority? Yeah, can they say, wink, wink, nah, nah, come on, bruh. Let's do something for this guy. Jay-Z is putting enormous pressure. You know Roger Goodell.

If he wanted to do that, he would have done before jay-z came on the scene absolutely so we know jay-z's presence was significant there so for me it's the inside versus outside dichotomy that we've got to reckon with and we gotta stop the hate if you disagree with me then i'm a comb then i'm a sellout i'm not saying that there are not people who have done dastardly things in the name of racial duty and who deserve to be called out or at least called to account. But the ready resort to trying to beat people up and you a coon and you, you know what, you

coon in somebody today and you gonna be coon the next day. You cancel somebody today, you gonna get canceled yourself the next day. We got more with Michael Eric Dyson. When we come back, don't move. It's the Breakfast Club. We're back. It's the Breakfast Club. DJ Envy, Angela Yee, Charlamagne Tha God.

We have Michael Eric Dyson in the building. What do you think about Stephen A. Smith's take on Colin Kaepernick not actually conforming to what the NFL wanted him to do? Well, you know, I was on, look, Stephen A. Smith is a friend of mine. I'm friendly with Colin Kaepernick. I love and adore him. And I think, look, what Stephen A. Smith was trying to suggest

is that in the context of what the NFL is, first of all, we know they messed up. We know they jacked up. We know they took a job from you that you shouldn't have taken from you. You know this, right? That's not a mystery. The fact that Colin Kaepernick even has to be in this position is fundamentally unjust.

The fact that he has to be begging for something, not begging, asking for something, an opportunity to show that he is capable of performing in the NFL when he didn't, because of his own merit, fail to do that. It wasn't his arm wasn't good. Now, true enough,

he had some troubles when he was starting and he was benched in favor of somebody else and so on. That's all true. But the man still wields tremendous talent and is better than half the people starting right now. And certainly the people they go on the street and find and bring into the NFL because they're desperate for a quarterback. So there's no question that the white supremacist outlook and mindset and worldview and felt and shongen and every other word you can generate of these owners that prevents them from understanding that their own bigotry and bias will keep Colin Kaepernick on the sidelines is a serious issue that cannot be dismissed.

And this is the tradition, if I can say that, that some black people, including Stephen A. Smith, come from. Here's the position. Black people always against the eyes. ain't never fair right Martin Luther King Jr. forget a waiver on a contract forget now I'm not saying that that's not important right because if the waiver being signed was to suggest that somehow you would you would surrender your right to be able to sue in the future or to accuse people of further collusion, right? That's idiotic. Ain't nobody trying to do that. But the broader issue is this.

Pharaoh will never provide you a scholarship for freedom, right? The people who are your enemies and your opponents will never grant you even the fair conditions for you to compete. But the best of our people have competed against the odds. Was it fair for Jackie Robinson to have to live the way he did? No. Was it right?

No. Did he do it? Yes. Should we have to? No. Should Colin Kaepernick have to exist by a kind of segregated Jim Crow law in the modern era in 2019 when we've had, you know, voting rights for black people in the South since 1965?

No, no. But is white supremacy still real? Yes. Does it amplify within the cauldrons of, you know, the NFL and American institutional culture and corporate culture? Absolutely. So the thing is, knowing that going in the door, you don't never expect them to be fair.

You demand, you request, but you go out there and show, you know what? Even with your funky, foul, nefarious tricksterism, I'm going to show you I can toss this rock. I can chuck this pill. I can throw this pigskin, and I can do what's necessary to do. Put the burden back on them. And then if they don't hire you, even though we know now he still can play, they already know that. If they don't hire you, that's we know now he still can play, they already know that. If they don't hire you, that's on them. That's up to them.

So I think there's a tradition of black response. And I know a lot of black people, oh, my God, this is the politics of respectability. And you're trying to prove that you're twice as good just to compete. I'm sorry. I'm 61 years old. That's the generation I'm from. Right? Right. So my point is, is that, yes, there is a thing such as loving Colin Kaepernick, supporting Colin Kaepernick, wanting him to do the best and the right thing and suggesting this. You could tighten up some of you, some of your strategy to you.

There's a way in which you might approach this. There might be different. Now, this is not to put the burden on him like you do the right thing, and then the NFL is let off the hook. No. But we know we're living in a white supremacist society where the patent unfairness and hypocrisy is pervasive. So knowing that going in the door, be armed to be able to compete and to deal with this. This is why, by the way, when Martin Luther King Jr. and other figures in his branch of the movement were involved, they were rigorously trained.

They were taught principles. They were taught about social injustice, how to deal with potential scenarios that would prevail that allowed them to be able to do their best on the battlefield. I'm going to tell you something, man. I agree with a lot of what you said, most of it.

And if I was cap and I would have saw that waiver, when he was trying to get me to sign over my rights to, you something, man. I agree with a lot of what you said, most of it. And if I was capped and I would have saw that waiver, where they was trying to get me to sign over my rights to, you know, not be able to sue them in the future, and if they would have gave me an ultimatum that said, hey, I don't know if this is true, but they said they gave me an ultimatum that said, take it or leave it, you got two hours. Right.

I would have said, f*** them. Of course. I mean, f*** them. Who wouldn't do that? So you wouldn't have held the other tryout? No. And if I did hold the other tryout, I would have only held it for attention.

So when I got in front of them cameras, I put them on blast for that waiver. Well, see, that's the thing. See, here's the part of the problem. You know, the NFL is saying one thing about the waivers. They're swearing up and down. That's not what it is. Right? It's being misrepresented.

They're saying it was a standard waiver. Of course. And cap side is saying something else. So we don't really know. I saw an article yesterday where they showed the standard waiver and the waiver Cap got. It was definitely more language than Caps. Well, no doubt. And the bottom line is, beyond the waiver, the man has been mistreated.

Ain't nobody else getting subjected to what he's being subjected to. That's right. So it's criminal at that level. There's no question about that. But that's different from us then trying to figure out what is the strategic response. And we don't have to be sellouts because we say, hey, there's a way in which you can do it. Is it wrong to say, hey, Cap, it might be good that when people are trying to get at you who know stuff about this, you could respond to them. Right?

Now, let me give you an example. I love Colin Kaepernick. I was at the Tyler Perry event. Yes, sir. The Big Chin Day. Yes, sir. You know? And when Beyonce thanked me for

showing love to them all the time. After that, I don't know really what happened. I went home. I'm just not sure. If their time stopped moving. If the float of eternity had descended with powerful and poetic intensity, stop

hating. So the thing is that Kaepernick came up to me and said, look, man, I'm going to have to straighten you out about what's going on. I said, cool. I'm available. Right? I said, but Kaep, I'll be texting you. You don't reply back. You give me a text when you want me to

be your PR guy to tell what's going on in the world. But when I'm trying to get at you to interview you, I've defended Kaepernick in my last three books. In Tears We Cannot Stop, A Sermon on White America, and What Truth Sounds Like, Robert F. Kennedy,

James Baldwin, and The Unfinished Conversation on Race in America. And now in this book on Jay-Z, I love and adore him. I admire him. But I think that there's a way in which we could talk honestly

behind the scenes about things. That ain't gotta be me. And Miss Nessa, a lovely, brilliant, wonderful woman, his partner, said, hey, I want to talk to you. I called both of them. Ain't got no response. Now, I'm not trying to put them on blast. That ain't my point. Because you ain't gotta call Mike or Eric Dyson. But I'm saying

talk to people, and I hope you are, in your community. But is it wrong to say we can talk offstage, off the phone, behind the scenes, so I could offer whatever I do? I kind of do this for a living. I've written 21 books. I've been teaching for 30 years. I'm out here in these streets.

I'm doing what I do. I'm saying I do have something, and people usually pay me a bunch of money for that. I'm trying to offer it to you for free. You ain't got to take my advice, but I'm saying engage. But don't be upset then in the public sphere and square when I have to then talk about there could be alternatives to strategic intervention. Because you haven't heard from him firsthand. I can't do it. I think it's hard for Colin and Nessa to trust people at this moment.

I can understand. And I get it. They get a lot of death threats. And especially I think this whole situation with Jay-Z, it divided the culture in a way that it shouldn't have had to. It shouldn't have done. At the same time, if you're challenging me about you want to straighten me out, and I call you to get straightened out, and you don't straighten me out, dog, that ain't on

me. And listen here, that doesn't mean, therefore, because I didn't hear from you, I'm going to be principled in my response regardless. You're just going to speak on what you know from what you've researched. I'm going to speak on what I believe, what I know, what I think, how I reflect. The understanding of how this stuff has operated in the past. The ways in which leaders have clashed and disagreed. This ain't the first time.

Cancer culture didn't invent it. It just amplifies it more. It makes it more immediate. We got more with Michael Eric Dyson. When we come back, don't move. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning. You know what I wanted to ask you about?

Well, honestly, I wish Cap would just say, f*** the NFL. That's number one. I wish he would just be like, I don't want to play no more. I know, but... But look at you. If somebody did that to you and they'd say,

I just wish Charlemagne would just say radio. That's his life. I would start a podcast. I wouldn't beg. You starting a podcast is different than him starting a whole league. Yeah. That's his life. I would start a podcast. I wouldn't beg. I'd keep me on. You starting a podcast is different than him starting a whole league. Come on, dog. I'm just saying, man, it comes a point in time where you have to have some integrity about yourself.

He has tremendous integrity. And stop kind of like knocking on these white people's door when you know they don't want to let you in. Well, all of us are knocking on the white man's door. Are we? You had to do it. Is this a black-owned radio station? No. Oh.

But I'm not knocking, though. You ain't got to knock. Look how easy that is. Okay we? You had to do it. Is this a black-owned radio session? No. Oh. But I'm not knocking, though. But you ain't got to knock. Look how easy that is. Okay. They're coming to get you. You ain't got to knock. They're coming to get you. All I'm simply saying is if they kicked me out, right, for three years.

That's theory. They kicked me out for three years. You ain't got no money to support your family. Your wife looking at you. He got money, though. Oh, he got money, but I'm saying. But it's what he's passionate about. He grew up, and this is his life, like football. He got money, though. Oh, he got money, but I'm saying. But this is what he's passionate about. He grew up, and this is his life, like football.

He wants to play in the NFL. Dude, he's got skill. He was doing the biceps. He is Kaepernick. He was one throw from winning the Super Bowl. This is what he's born to do. If somebody tells me, Dyson, you can't speak, you can't teach. I'm going to go teach on the side road somewhere.

That's cool, but why deny me a legitimate opportunity to speak in a classroom that I've earned a degree for, and the only reason I can't do it, to ply my wares and to practice my craft, is because of some arbitrary racist refusal to acknowledge me?

That would go down real tough, man. I think what we're seeing right now is the suffering that comes from arguing with reality. Because I think Colin Kaepernick is bigger than football. I think he stands for more than what football is. And it might be his greatest gift. That's what I'm saying. Sometimes you got to pay attention to how God has pushed you in another direction.

And especially after last week, they gave him that waiver that clearly shows they're still trying to collude against him. I would have gave him the middle finger and been like, F y'all. If y'all Negroes still watching the NFL, y'all really awesome sellout. Well, here's the thing. In the dark, the divine and the demonic feel the same. How you know that's not right? Remember, Jacob was wrestling with the angel.

And it said Jacob wrestled all night long until the morning. Why did he wrestle until the morning? Because sometimes in the dark, the devil and God feel the same. They do the same stuff. They push you. They irritate you. They make you mad. You don't know.

So what you think is God could be evil, and what you think is evil could be God. Remember, Joseph with the coat of many colors said, you meant it for evil, but God meant it for good. But at the moment that you're the recipient of and the object of derision and scorn, that stuff is awful tough to take. It might be God speaking, but it sounds like the devil's voice you hear. So all of us have to struggle with what God's

intent is for our lives. We don't know until later on. Maybe now he will understand, but that's not for me to say. So you've got to understand what your gift is, what your time is, what your opportunity is. And that's not for us to say. And so, again, I would hesitate to say to Colin Kaepernick, clearly your destiny is X, Y, and Z. Because the attempt and effort that he's making and being rejected in public is an object lesson for somebody looking. So maybe God's purpose is for us to see the public exposure of the shenanigans,

the hypocrisy, and the incredible manipulations that are going on, which are just as effective as him occupying a slot on an NFL team and doing what he's got to do. We don't know. But we can't impose that. All we can do is derive meaning and benefit and advantage from what we see going on. And I would never presume to tell Colin Kaepernick what to do with his life. I support him with whatever he does.

I just want us to be strategic in our assistance to him and our cooperation with him and trying to figure out the best route to redemption in this moment. And no simple conversation about, oh, you know, you're a sellout because you said this and you're a sellout because you agree with this and you're a sellout because you think he should have an alternative strategy or you're a sellout because you might have some constructive criticism about what might be being done. And if your goal is X, Y and Z, let me help you achieve it. That's healthy.

That's beautiful. Now, a lot of black people say, well, why can't we do it in public? When's the last time you've been invited to a black meeting? Where the hell is it? Where the hell is the black meeting? Is it the NAACP? All Negroes ain't members of that. Is it the Urban League? Ain't members of that. Is it the crack house? Everybody can't get in. So my point is...

There was a secret one a couple weeks ago. That lets you know that I'm going to sell out yellow Negro, and I did not get invited. No, you probably did. Drake! Drake! And we need to have more of them.

No, we do. We do. Invite me to the next one. But here's the point. There ain't no black meeting. That's the point. There are black meetings. Right.

So the point is, the mythology of the necessity for uniformity and unity among black people undercuts the vibrant diversity and the rambunctious complexity of our existence. What I mean, all of us ain't got to be on the same page and believe the same thing in order for us to understand that we got to be in the communities that love and appreciate us and move forward. Don't hate on nobody else. That's real. Right. In the Bible, Paul and Silas and all in Timothy. Look, we got a part. You're on your path.

I'm on mine. You don't like T.D. Jakes? Listen to Freddie Haynes. You don't like Freddie Haynes? Right? Listen to Damon Glenn. Listen to Farrakhan. Come on.

Listen to Minister Farrakhan. You don't like Farrakhan? My brother in the way in which. Right? And let me tell you about Minister Farrakhan. Now, Minister Farrakhan invited me to his house, right? This was years and years ago. I was like, well, damn, what'd I do?

What'd I do? What'd I do? I said, because I said, the first thing I said, Minister Farrakhan, I have been very critical of you. I've been critical of you about what I perceive to be anti-Semitic rhetoric, and I've been critical of you about the homophobia that I think is in your rhetoric. I ain't going to lie to him.

I'm at his crib. I'm hoping this ain't the last time I'm going to be seen. And he said, my brother, how can we love and engage each other if we do not in love correct each other. If we do not in love, correct each other. So if you share with me your particular perspective and I, you, mine, then we have the possibility of overcoming.

Four hours. Four hours, right? I got real differences. I got real critiques. But the possibility of opening up at least to talk about what those might mean. His critiques of me,

my critiques of him. And together we figure out this ain't my community. That ain't your tribe. All your skin folk ain't your kin folk. Word. To me, Jay-Z, the reason I wrote this book,

the reason I celebrate his, you know, transition from hustler on the street to hustler in the corporate scene, the reason I celebrate his poetic genius, the reason I celebrate his politics. Jay-Z didn't start in politics when he joined what, what, what, what, Obama? Right, he was talking on his records all the time,

but he was combining, he knew on his first album, oh, I gave him serious revelation and prophecy, and they ain't feeling it like that. Same way with Nas, right? So you got to figure out, I got to get my message through in a way. When the rim is in the system, ain't no telling. I got to quote Biggie, but then I got to get in. Bin Laden bin happening in Manhattan, right?

Talking about anthrax. He said, back then, back when the police was out, he was out-cotted a black man. He said, back then, back when the police was out cutting the black men. He's sneaking that in to some big pimpin'. Because he understands that you can't give medicine straight. You got to get a castor oil with sugar.

That's right. Right? You got to give the hard lesson with honey. So Jay-Z has brilliantly fused and merged the impulse toward poetic genius and understanding the marketplace in an unparalleled fashion.

And so this book celebrates that genius. Hove is a great man, not because his poetic inventiveness and rhetorical genius is so remarkable that it demands repeated listening. It does. He is a great man because he's been willing to grow and evolve and to tell the truth along the way.

My man, Michael Eric Dyson. Well, thank you so much for that. That's right. Does Jay-Z have a copy of the book already? Yes, he does. Thank y'all so much. It's out right now.

Make sure you go get it, Jay-Z Made in America by Michael Eric Dyson. Appreciate you, my brother. Always a pleasure. It's The Breakfast Club. Is your country falling apart? Feeling tired? Depressed?

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they want this man to throw them blows man they wait They wait for Charlamagne to tap them gloves. Let's go. They had to make a judgment of who was going to be on the donkey of the day. They chose you. Yeah, man. Let's talk. Donkey of the day. Go to a young woman named Tijah Russell.

Tijah is 29 years old, and she's from the great state of New Jersey. Dropping the clues, boss, from New Jersey, damn it. Now, before we talk about Tijah, let me ask y'all a question out there. When the last time you got stood up? When is the last time you told someone you wanted to take them out and didn't show up, huh? When is the last time you told someone to come over and you fell

asleep on their ass? I have homeboys now who are not married, not in a committed relationship, not part of this faithful black male community and they tell me stories like this all the time, especially when we out of town. All right. Women come to the hotel and be downstairs in the lobby for hours because said individual has fallen asleep on their ass. Every time I hear stories like this, I feel for those women, because to me, this is a different level of disrespect.

All right. If a man calls you over and tells you that he fell asleep on you, he's either A, lying because he was going through his phone and decided to call a couple different chicks and whoever got there first is who he's with, hence why he is not answering for you, or B, you just don't excite him like that. Okay? You're not falling asleep

on a woman you are really excited to see. In fact, that adrenaline rush you get from seeing or being around a woman you're into is going to wake your ass up. All right. You got a woman coming over. You get excited. All right.

You think you're going to get some ass. So you go hop your ass in the shower and that shower going to wake you up. Then you're going to lotion up, throw on some basketball shorts and a fresh T-shirt, spray some cologne on, roll up something, smoke, pour you a glass of something and wait for the young lady you called over to arrive. Okay? I fell asleep. You fell asleep? How boring was your box that the thought of you coming over puts a man to sleep? All right?

So, yes, ladies, you should feel extremely disrespected when you come to see a man and he tells you, I fell asleep. You wouldn't feel disrespected, G, if that happened to you? Yeah, I'd be annoyed that I came out of my way. And that's exactly what happened to Taja M. Russell. Now, according to the New York Daily News, Taja was the side chick. All right? That's the New York Daily News words, not mine.

All right? Taja was this young man. She was visiting side chick. And the young man told authorities that he asked Russell to come to his house for sex. But he fell asleep before she arrived. Disrespectful. When Taja got to the man's house, she called him eight times.

Eight times. But he didn't pick up. After eight phone calls, she allegedly texted the man, I see you want to die. Followed by, you wasted my money to come out of here. And then around 4 a.m., security

cameras saw Maja knocking on this young man's door, and he still didn't answer. Ladies, when this is over, rewind and listen to what I said about a man disrespecting you. The level of disrespect this young woman, Taja, received is four in the morning. You got there and called eight times.

You knocked on his door, and he igging the hell out of you, not to mention you already his side chick. What else is there to do, especially after you sent him the I see you want to die text? Well, you got to attempt to kill him. Let's go to News 12

New Jersey to see how Taja and Russell handled this situation. A woman is accused of setting a man's home on fire after she was invited over for a late night rendezvous. Police say this month 29-year-old Tasia Russell went to the home on Barber Avenue. NorthJersey.com reports the man fell asleep, did not answer the door. They say that's when Russell set the home on fire. The man was taken to the hospital with burns and smoke inhalation. Tasia was determined to have a hot

date. All right, remember when I told you that if a man falls asleep on you before you get there, that means the thought of your poom-poom makes him sleepy? You out there giving out that boring-ass box? Well, I think Taja realized that in her mind, and she was not leaving that house that night without the word fire coming out of that man's mouth. She wanted that word to be used to describe her vagina, but she didn't get that opportunity, so she decided to set his crib ablaze.

Okay, I'm going gonna be honest with you. Other than her having an arson charge and an attempted murder charge and being held without bail, I kind of feel him. Alright, see? Let this be a lesson to you fools. Alright, stop standing women up like that after you done wasted their time, energy, and money to

come see you. Alright, it's disrespectful and just not right but ladies don't be like taja when a man doesn't value you doesn't appreciate you stands you up don't do what taja did even though it hurts not to react all right don't do what taja did see i know you really want to work this out but i don't think this man is ever going to change all right when you do but they don't i just think it's best you go your separate ways. All right? Sometimes you have to ask yourself, why should I stay in this relationship?

When you're hurting, baby, you ain't happy, baby. Plus, there's just so many other things you got to deal with. So I just think that you should let it burn. All right? Please let Remy Ma give Taja Russell the biggest hee-haw. Hee-haw. Hee-haw. Hee-haw. You stupid mother are you dumb? I might put something on her books.

Wow. I might just buy some M&M's or something. Some peanut M&M's or something. My goodness. I feel her pain a little bit. Alright. Well, thank you for that donkey today. Now. She was very literal and true to her words. She was. But that's what you get for having her hot ass out at 4 in the morning.

All right, we got more coming up next. We're The Breakfast Club. The Breakfast Club. E.J. Envy, Angela Yee, Charlamagne Tha God. We are The Breakfast Club. We have a special guest in the building. Yes, indeed. Miss Tina Lifford.

Welcome. Good morning. How are you? Welcome, welcome, welcome. I'm blessed black and highly favored. How are you? I know that's the truth. That's right. Me too. You are you? Welcome, welcome, welcome. I'm blessed black and highly favored. How are you? I know that's the truth. That's right. Me too.

You got a book out, The Little Book of Lies. The Little Book of Big Lies. The Little Book of Big Lies. What is a big lie? A big lie is anything that has ever happened in your life that has left you feeling less than not good enough or incapable. Ooh. So basically like traumas that you've dealt with. Traumas, so basically like traumas that you've dealt with.

Traumas, you know, that teacher that said something rude to you and now you hold on to. That experience of seeing something that traumatized you like my father did. Whatever it is that stole your power is a lie. That coworker that talks about you all the time and lies about you? Say it again. Now, you heard me. I said that coworker that talks about you all the time and lies about you? Say it again. Now, you heard me. I said that coworker that talks about you and lies about you. Absolutely.

Well, if, in fact, that lie actually steals your power, then it is a lie. If it doesn't steal your power, then it's just noise. Okay. We were talking about the term buy ugly. When people would say, buy ugly. And I've been getting that my whole life. But I didn't realize it was a bad term until this morning. And isn't that good?

You know, because if you didn't internalize it as a bad term, then it had no power. That's right. But when those events happen in our lives and they wind up being stuck in our emotional system. Gotcha. up being stuck in our emotional system and now they begin to shape how we see and experience ourselves and others that's a lie and it's a lie that we need to take our power back from so you've said in this book that emotional pain and frustration that we have that comes from these lies that we've been told a lot of times when we have these chronic issues that we're dealing with it's because something that somebody said to us has really stuck with us and we've internalized that.

We have internalized it. Do you use that pain sometimes in your acting? Oh my goodness gracious. Yes. I mean, I think that one of the best parts of being an actor is that the profession requires that you explore your internal experiences and be able to access them. And so being able to touch pain and old pain is what a lot of people call the method process. I don't do that. I so love the human condition. I so understand that we are all the same.

On the outside, we got a lot of different details going on. But on the inside, when it comes to the emotional part of us, we're the exact same. And if in fact something hurts you, then that hurt becomes a part of our experience. It loops in our lives until we actively go in and address it. And so it's really easy for me to, as an actress, tap into emotional pain because I know what it is. And I don't have to bring up, you know, something from my past. I just know if I'm living the life of the character in front of me, then that character is at an emotional place that I know. I've been there. We've all been there.

Everybody could be an actor if you can accept and relate to and own your emotional experience. Now, you dedicated this book to your brother. Yep. Let's talk about that. Yep. What happened to your brother? So let's start with the fact that my brother started smoking weed when he was maybe 11 years old.

And I know this after the fact, right? But he died at 50 from a drug overdose two weeks out of rehab. And the reason the book is dedicated to my brother is because he truly was one of the best people that I know. But he was sensitive in a way that wasn't good in this world, particularly when he also had the challenge of not being able to read. And at that time, they didn't know that it was dyslexic, that he was dyslexic, right? So you go from the early experiences of not being like the other kids.

And then my father also could not read. And that was not something that my father dealt with appropriately where my brother was concerned. So my brother had no tools, right? And my father was able to power through where my brother couldn't. And I think that my brother and my father, and I'll say this without any sense of protection, I think that my father was hard on my brother because he was making him ready for the world. But he was hard on a child that was more sensitive than he was. And so that child needed a different level of interaction and care.

Oh, that's powerful. The reason that's so powerful is because as men, we have issues with our father and the way they may have been tough on us, the way they may have disciplined us. As you grow older, you realize they were kind of just doing the best they could. Absolutely. He was teaching based off the experiences that he'd been through and what he had learned. And his limited knowledge of himself and his way of navigating the world.

Right? Which really, you know, if you are projecting your way of navigating the world onto someone else and you're not taking time to actually know that person, you might very well be running over the very essence of another human being. Yes, ma'am. Yeah. You know, trying to help them be like you. Yes, ma'am. Because we always talk about kids and they'll say, oh, kids are too sensitive nowadays, but all kids have different levels of sensitivity. Absolutely. We all need to slow down and really connect with the person in front of us. And the reason we don't do that is that we are afraid that we don't want to challenge our own mindset and beliefs. And so we need everyone to agree that the way in which we see it is the way in which it is and is correct. And to challenge our beliefs is to put us in a place of discomfort.

Because if I don't know what I know, then how do I survive? How do you feel about marijuana now? Because you mentioned marijuana and your brother started smoking at 11. So many different states are legalizing it. But obviously for your brother, it could have been a gateway drug to something stronger.

How do you feel about marijuana use? Marijuana was not my brother's gateway. Pain was his gateway. Ooh. Ooh. Right? I think that the challenge with any drug use, even recreational drug use, is that if we don't know ourselves well enough, then it is very easy for a substance to step in and help calm

the dis-ease that is inside of us when what we really should be doing is finding more effective ways to calm that dis-ease. Take care of yourself, connect with yourself, be able to be with yourself, then you won't need the substances to make it okay to just be here. Y'all know what it is! We have more of our conversation with author and star of Queen Sugar, Tina Lifford, coming up next. It's The Breakfast Club. Morning, everybody.

It's DJ Envy, Angela Yee, Charlamagne Tha Guy. We's the Breakfast Club. Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy Angela Yee, Charlamagne Tha Guy. We are the Breakfast Club. Now, if you just joined us, we were talking about Lil Wayne's daughter. Yes. Regine. Regine. Lil Wayne and Toya Rice's daughter. And she went to this cucumber pool party, and she

previously had been really not excited about these women doing this cucumber challenge, so people were getting at her for being at the party. But she said, okay, guys, I want to say this. I went to the party to spy on YFN Lucci. Females don't act like you never did it. But when I heard about the cucumber activities, I left. To be honest, I've made myself look like a fool for this man,

and I apologize for allowing you guys to see it. I'm young and still learning. Now, have you ever spotted your man before, Yee? Have I ever did a pop-up? That's the same thing as spy, whatever you want to call it. Yeah, you know still learning. Now, have you ever spotted on your man before, Yee? Have I ever did a pop-up? That's the same thing as spotting, whatever you want to call it. Yeah, you know, I've done a pop-up. I don't try to think if I've ever gone to a party, but I've definitely popped up at his house.

I did that a couple of times. One time I actually climbed through the window. That's a real pop-up. And that's because I knew something was going on, and sometimes even though we know things, we want to see it with our own eyes. I don't know why, but I guess that was really on. And sometimes, even though we know things, we want to see it with our own eyes. I don't know why, but I guess that was really the end of it for me, to be able to see somebody doing something with my own eyes.

Yeah, I've done it once or twice. Charlamagne? Always. I grew up a very insecure young man. Me too. And when you were the type of person like me who was cheating on my woman, it made me feel guilty.

So that, on top of my insecurity, I thought she was doing dirt when she wasn't. So yes, I popped up at jobs. I popped up at dorm she wasn't. So, yes, I popped up at jobs. I popped up at dorms. I popped up at apartments. I popped up at class. Rolled my motorcycle right to her class. What do you think she was doing in class?

I don't know. I don't know. You just want to see. Maybe she passing a note. Maybe she holding hands. Like, as a guy, when a guy is already doing dirt, like, you automatically think your woman is just like, you know, sucking s*** everywhere. You know what I'm saying? Like, even if she's not. Like, it can go down any time just like, you know, sucking s*** everywhere. You know what I'm saying? Like, even if she's not.

Like, it can go down anytime, anyplace. So, yes. I've definitely had guys pop up on me at parties. That was highly insecure. Yeah. And listen, I'll leave a party if somebody tried to pop up on me. I'll slide out and be like, this is ridiculous. Or you pop up.

Like, you know, like I say, like I say, like, you know, my wife was in college. They used to be partying at this place called Five Points. Five Points was all the college kids used to go on Thursday night. I mean anybody could go hang out there but that wasn't really my scene but you just pop up

at a random place like what are you doing here? Like you know you just be in Charlotte's Roost while she in there like why are you in Charlotte's Roost?

I don't know just doing a little shopping. What is Charlotte's Roost? It's a clothing store down south. But you know you just pop up in random places. You ain't got no business being. Why you at my OBGYN?

Oh, I don't know. I'm just kidding. Nothing. Hello, who's this? Hello, my name is Jasmine. How you doing? What up, Jasmine, queen of the pop-up. Jasmine is way too loud to be popping up on somebody. No, I definitely pop up on that ass. But, uh,

let me tell y'all, let me tell y'all. I'm really the pop-up queen, though. Let me tell y'all. I had popped up on that ass But let me tell y'all Let me tell y'all I'm really the pop-up queen though Let me tell y'all I had a tractor on my baby daddy car For like three years And he never knew it Wow

He like, dang He thinking that his friends That shit on them and everything like that But really he had no idea That I was just like Tracking that ass up all day, every day I don't know how he couldn't figure that out When you was just showing up places

Nobody puts a track on somebody's car. Clearly they do. Jasmine, you're crazy. Crazy as hell. Don't play with me. And you did that for three years? Yeah, and he never knew though, right? He never knew. So listen, like one time he went out to eat with this girl. Like I said in the parking,

I let him eat and everything. They went back to his apartment, you know what I'm saying? Like I'm just following them. I'm just like, okay. So this f***ing keeps me. So I just, you know, I just walk up to the apartment, knock on the door. They start turning off the lights and stuff, try to hide and stuff. I end up texting the girl on the phone, like,

like, tell that f***er he got five minutes to come outside. I'm coming in that bitch. Damn. And, like, they scattered out that much. That's crazy that for three years he wasn't scared enough to stop doing the stuff he was doing. Sharon. Yes. You ever popped up on an ex or a man or your man?

You know what? No, because if something is going on, I don't want to know about it. You get in trouble when you go looking for trouble. But here's my story. So I found out that my soon-to-be ex-husband put his cell phone in my car. So one day I'm parked, and all of a sudden I just hear this music out of the blue, and I'm like, what is that? So I look at my back seat, and he shoved his cell phone in between my back seat

so he could track me. So he didn't have his cell phone on him. He just left it in the car. No, he had another cell phone. Oh, yeah, another. He had another cell phone. Yeah, exactly. He had a second one. Dang. Wow, he had another cell phone and he had to find my iPhone. Yes, exactly. He had a second one. Dang. Wow, he

had to charge that every day. That's smart though. Why did he not trust you? Was there a reason or he just... His insecurities. Mm-mm. Alright, thank you. Mm-hmm, exactly. D'Angelo. Yo, yo. You popped up on your wife, man? Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Good morning, by the way.

Good morning. He's like, good morning, first of all. I'm not crazy. What you do, D'Angelo? I ain't do nothing. Well, yeah, I responded to what she did. She went out, and I didn't want her to go out. So I got my daughter in the truck, put my dog in the truck, and pulled up at the club on it, called her in line.

But the thing was, I knew that I brought my dog with me because I felt like I was going to have to go into the club. But I didn't have to go in the club, thank God. But I got out, caused a little sting in the line, got her in the truck, and then we pulled off. Wow. You brought your dog? I brought my dog hanging out in the car.

And your daughter? And me while I'm yelling at her. So you was going to bring your dog and daughter in the club, Defina? No, I was going to leave the dog and the daughter in the car while I was in the club. How old is your daughter? Oh, she was a baby, baby.

You was going to leave a baby in the car? So you about to go to jail because of your own insecurities. One of them nights. One of those nights. Oh, my God. Man, you should have

just sent the dog in the club. This is awful. And he rationalized it by like, you know what? My dog go watch my daughter while I go in the club for a second. Bro, I have just sent the dog in the club. This is awful. And he rationalized it, but you know what? My dog gonna watch my daughter while I go in the club for a second. Bro, I have the best guard dog in the world. I wouldn't have did it had my dog been lucky. I wouldn't have ended his mother-in-law.

But, you know. All right, man. I'm sorry. That's too much. Have a good one. At least call a sitter. I ain't going front. That ain't a bad idea.

I leave the dog in the car with the kids. That's a terrible idea. Shut up. What's the moral of the story? The moral of the story is get your insecurities together, bro. Okay? Trust me. I've been there. I feel sorry for Reggie Nate, but she young though, you know what I mean? So I get it. You know, you just... It's just happening so publicly for her.

Yeah, you do stuff like that when you're young. When you have those insecurities and, you know, you just want to make sure somebody doing it right by you, I get it. I get it. Alright right we got more coming up next we're the breakfast club morning everybody is dj envy angela yee charlamagne the god we are the breakfast club we got a special guest in the building yep author david back guys thank you for having me well he's not just an author he's one of the most trusted financial experts in the world. Correct. Okay, and a best-selling financial author. And he has a new book called The Latte Factor.

I'm just super grateful to have him be on the show, man. Thank you. Well, talk to us about The Latte Factor. What are the comparisons between finances and lattes? Yeah, well, because here's the deal. The 4 to 10 Americans right now cannot get their hands on $100 in case of emergency. Jesus. Take that in.

4 out of 10. 4 out of 10. That's better out of ten. Four out of ten. That's better than herpes. Herpes is only one in three. Jesus. Take that in for a second. Wait. Six out of ten Americans can't get their hands on $1,000 in case of emergency purposes.

So seven out of ten Americans live in paycheck to paycheck. And what I've been teaching now for almost a 26 years is that we got to break this. The way you break it, the way you stop living paycheck to paycheck is you realize that small amounts of money can change your life. So I created this concept called the latte factor, which is the idea that if instead of wasting five bucks a day on a latte, you took that $5 a day, you put it inside your retirement account, you paid yourself first, you could become a millionaire. How long does $5 a day. You put it inside your retirement account. You paid yourself first. You could become a millionaire.

How long does that take to get to be a millionaire? As soon as you said that, I said, bulls**t. Here's what you do. Back of the book, we got this little story. We got this metaphor in here. We got a chart. A little simple chart shows you that, by the way, it takes a lifetime here. You start in your 20s. $5 a day. By the time, 40 years later,

at 10% interest, it's worth $948,000. Okay. For 40 years. Yeah, so that's starting in your 20s, right? Now, there's a chart on page 134. It shows somebody saving more than $5 a day. Okay, okay. $300 a month.

Okay. You're 25. You save $300 a month. By the time you reach retirement, you got $1,913,000. Now, here's the problem, guys. Most people do not start saving at 25. No. They start saving at 40.

They start thinking about it at 35. Right. Do not wait to start saving money. My grandmother helped me buy my first stock at age 7. Wow. But you can only teach what you know. So a lot of these parents, they can't teach finances because they don't know finances themselves.

You are absolutely right. And I'm here to say to any parent listening right now, this is my 13th book. This is the easiest book I've ever written. And I'm out here watching the videos of all the amazing, incredible artists who've come through here. And a lot of them are wearing six figures in jewelry

around their neck when you start seeing somebody wearing six figures in jewelry around their neck and they don't have a six-figure net worth something's wrong i agree the first thing you focus on if you're listening right now and you don't have any savings is focus on getting a thousand dollars in savings take the take i call it, the 100-day challenge. Save $10 a day for 100 days. You're now wealthier than 6 out of 10 people in America. Now, what about for people that would say, you know, that sounds great, but what else can I do that's going to be more aggressive?

I'm going to drop a truth on you right now. You want to go and try and get rich overnight? You will stay poor forever. You do not get rich in days. Unless you hit the lotto. You get rich in decades. Yeah, but see, lottos are really just a tax on people that are praying and hoping. That's not a real way

to go and get rich. It's a tax on your hope. It's a tax on your optimism. I used to say it's a tax on stupid people, but I don't want everybody coming out with a gun on me. So here's the thing. We have people putting more money in the lottery tickets than retirement accounts. So if you've got a job today, here's what I. We have people putting more money in the lottery tickets than retirement accounts. So if you've got a job today, here's what I want you to do.

You have to pay yourself first. You have to get financially selfish. The formula to financial freedom for life is saving one hour a day of your income. Whether you make minimum wage or you make more. The average American is making about $27 an hour right now. One hour a day of your income paid automatically into a retirement account. You can be financially free for life. Can you elaborate on the statement you're richer than you think? You have to learn to think like an investor. There's two things that make people in America wealthy. They are real estate and stocks. If you don't own real estate

and you don't own stocks, you don't get into one of these two games or both. You're not on the escalator to building wealth. These are the things that make people wealthier. When you own real estate, the tax laws favor the rich. You can buy it. This is what people don't realize. You can buy a home, live in it for two years, sell it, and if you're single, you can keep a quarter of a million dollars in tax-free gains. Okay, a quarter million dollars tax-free, right.

It's the only game in town where the government doesn't tax you. Now, one of the reasons is because the government wants you to own a home. Right. Now, here's the truth. When you look at why is it that wealth goes from one generation to the next or doesn't, it's real estate. So homeowners are 46 times wealthier than renters. So some of the smartest investments for people with new money to make are real estate and stock. So homeowners are 46 times wealthier than renters.

So some of the smartest investments for people with new money to make are real estate and stock. Yeah, and the simplest thing is to start with your 401k plan or your IRA account. Start saving. And just start saving. Start investing. And get yourself, you know, you start with something as simple as an index fund. You got a chapter in your book called Don't Budget, Make It Automatic. Can you expound on that, please?

Yeah, so we're all taught to budget. Nobody really does it in the real world. People hate it. So what I teach is this. The way you build wealth for anything, retirement, buying a car, going on a dream vacation, saving money for kids who are going to go to college, is you save automatically. Money's got to get moved automatically from your paycheck, from your income, into these different savings accounts,

or you won't do it. If you want to know the true formula to being able to retire in your 50s, it is to save. I can give you the exact number right now. It's 14% of your gross income. Okay. But it's 14% of your gross income. How do I know these numbers?

Because Fidelity Investments runs the largest 401k plan, I think, in the world. They have 16 million people in the U.S. in their 401k plan. It represents 20,000 companies. They track the amount of people who become millionaires using their 401k plan. And they've saved 14% of their income for 30 years. By the time they reach an average age of 59 they're a 401k million so you the only way you're going to have money in this country is if you take care of yourself no one's coming to save us now you address one of the largest myths

about money and the latte factor and it takes money to make money why is that such a misconception because if you first of all if you believe you've got to have a lot of money to make money. Why is that such a misconception? Because if you, first of all, if you believe you've got to have a lot of money to start investing, you'll never start investing. You're defeated already. You're defeated already. It is a poor mental mindset.

And so I'll go back to my grandmother. My grandmother was broke at 30 and didn't have a college education, lived in Milwaukee, Wisconsin, and had a job in retail at a place called Gimbel's Department Store. She said, I was always getting my financial advice from my friends and they were all poor. She said, don't get your financial advice from poor people. There you go. So she went out and started taking classes at adult schools on investing. She found somebody who was a millionaire, didn't know the person well,

but knew the person enough to say, I know you're well off financially, and I'm trying to learn how to become wealthier. Would you teach me? She actually asked for a mentor. And she learned over her lifetime what to do. Wow. And, you know, and then passed the lessons on to our family.

A lot of times what happens once you have money is you don't actually care then if you look rich, because you don't care what anybody else thinks. Right. The weirdest thing is that when look rich because you don't care what anybody else thinks. The weirdest thing is that when we're not rich, we care what people think. Once we are rich, we don't give a s**t. You say big hat, no cat? Big hat, no cattle. Big hat, no cattle.

It's a Texas phrase. That's right. Get the big hat, but you got no cattle. You say big poke, no stroke. So if you got a big d**k, you can't f**k. All right, David Beckman, we appreciate you for joining us. Pick up his book, The Latte Factor, now. And thank you had a big you can't. All right, David. We appreciate you for joining us. Pick up his book, The Latte Factor now.

And thank you so much. Yes, sir. You guys, thank you for having me on your house. I appreciate you. I don't know how we got the penises. I'm sorry.

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