The Breakfast Club - Michel'le Interview
Episode Date: March 20, 2015Michele'le stops through to discuss her stint on R&B Divas, her history with Dr. Dre and Suge Knight and her upcoming book. Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.co...mSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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Well, Charlamagne's not here right now.
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We have a special guest with us this morning, Michelle A.
Hi.
Something in my heart. All Hi. Something in my heart.
All right.
Something in my heart.
You're going to make her get up and leave.
No, no, no. It sounds terrible.
I used to love that song.
Well, good morning.
You used to?
It still plays.
I haven't heard that song play in a long time.
You don't have Pandora then.
You don't?
Yeah.
I'm sorry.
Well, good morning to you.
Good morning.
You are on R&B Divas.
Yes, L.A.
L.A.
Now, first we got to talk about, your voice has always been like that?
Yes.
Actually, I saw an interview that you did.
Well, I don't know from birth because I couldn't talk.
Okay.
But when you was a kid, I mean.
When I was a kid, I didn't talk for probably the first three or four years.
I just nodded my head.
Then when I did, I was really shy.
And I just talked really soft. And then as I
got older, you know, I got a lot
bigger. Now, with your voice,
is it a problem, or that's just your voice?
No, I mean, because it's light.
No, no, it's cool.
No, it's cool.
This is the 200th time.
No, I just talk over my larynx,
and that's it.
Right. Well, it really does work for you, though,
because I think it's important to have a distinctive voice.
Obviously, people hear you.
They know it's you.
And you said you've been getting voiceover work.
Yeah.
Well, I'm signed to an agency, so it's awesome.
You could play a hell of a cartoon.
I want to be a bear.
A bear?
All right.
So I got to hear this.
How would a bear?
Do a bear voice.
Do a scene.
Action.
I'm the bear. He would talk like she would talk like me. I'm Elmo, and you got to hear this. How would a bear... All right, so do a bear voice. Do a scene. Action. I'm the bear.
He would talk like she would talk like me.
I'm Elmo, and you'd be the bear.
Okay?
Okay.
All right, listen, let's pretend that...
You're going to be Elmo.
I'm going to be Elmo.
Pretend that you are the mother bear,
and your son, Envy Bear, is gay.
He just came out.
What would you say to him?
Oh, my goodness.
Oh, I would ask you,
it's okay to be different.
It's alright.
Go ahead. Okay, mommy.
Thank you.
Everything he does sounds like Elmo.
Everything he does goes up an octave.
He always sounds like Elmo for some
reason.
My goodness. Alright, so let's start from the beginning.
So you are Michele. You are an artist from Compton,
California. I'm from South Central.
South Central.
And the first time we heard from you, of course, was something in my heart, was a single that
you were Dr. Dre produced.
That's not the first time.
That's the first time I heard of you.
Really?
Yes.
Where have you been?
I'm sorry.
No, actually, the first song Dre produced on me was Turn Off the Lights, but that was
his group.
Remember the world-class record crew?
Yes. When he had the
glitter.
The glitter. Yeah, that one. Now, were you guys
dating at that point, or was it from working
together that you established the relationship?
Well, that's when I first met
him. I knew Alonzo first.
I met Alonzo, and
the Mona Lisa was their lead singer,
and she couldn't make it that night, so Alonzo
called me and said, hey, could you come and do this song?
And I went to the studio, and he handed me a piece of paper,
and I went in with my own melody and everything, did it in one take,
and that was Dre and Yellow was in there, and I said hello and goodbye.
And then you heard it on the radio, and you said.
No, my father said, I think that's you.
And I was like, it is, because I'm catching three buses. And I was like, it is because I'm catching three buses.
And I didn't know.
He didn't say anything.
Lonzo just put it out.
But I had no rights.
I wasn't even in the group.
So did you sign anything to release?
Nothing.
I didn't know any better.
I was 16.
So you still dated Dr. Dre even with all that glitter on his hat?
Well, I didn't even know about World Class Wrecking Crew.
I didn't know.
You just sang what they told you to sing.
Yeah, I came in and then I found out what they did and started listening to their stuff.
So at first they were more of a softer group.
World Class Wrecking Crew wasn't NWA.
They were totally two different sides.
Okay, okay.
World Class Wrecking Crew was more like androgynous.
That's a good word, right?
Because they loved Prince.
So if you go back, that's really what Prince was like.
Okay.
Right?
Right.
So that's, I think, where a lot of it came from.
Oh, androgynous?
Yeah, androgynous.
You know.
So they loved Prince.
You could tell.
You could tell.
The whole style was kind of the hair.
Everything was Prince-ish.
Yes, it was Prince-ish.
So then they met you, and then they went to NWA.
You know,
I don't know what I do to men.
Yeah, no, actually.
I wasn't dating him
at that point.
I really didn't start
until,
it was months later.
Before we were.
But did you used to see
a lot of things like,
are the girls in the studio?
Did that make you feel like
I don't know if I could
date a guy in the industry
yeah I did see a lot of girls
but they weren't
yeah I did
but they wasn't me
they wasn't me bitch
that's what she was about to say
no but no
but I mean
it didn't bother me at the time
because you know
I didn't
you know when you're just
infatuated with someone
that's not
you know you don't know
people come for reasons and seasons so he could have just been for a season.
And you were so young, too.
Yeah, I wasn't trying to, you know, be booed up.
Okay, you think that men in the industry are just expected to cheat?
Like, in retrospect, when you look back at everything that happened and, you know, the men that you've dated,
do you feel like, well, these are men in positions of power, all these women went them.
So in order for me to feel like I could have a relationship with somebody like that,
I had a discussion with my friends about this the other day.
We're like, well, guys in the industry, they just cheat.
And it is what it is.
You have to just accept that.
You do at some point.
And if you don't, you'll be like me and single.
But my grandmother.
What?
It's true.
But my grandmother, she told me, she says, you can leave that man, but all men are going to cheat.
All men?
Well, she said there were very few that wouldn't,
but there are far and few between.
And she was right.
They do.
What do you think the best relationship you've ever been in,
like with who?
Me.
By yourself?
I'm doing fine.
You never felt like you had a guy treat you just extremely well
and maybe you dogged him out Because you was
You know
Feeling yourself
I think
I think
The generosity
And the protectiveness
Was always there
But then I learned
That that was controlling
But I didn't see it that way
So now
So now you
You start dating
Dr. Dre
And everything is fine
He's producing your stuff
And you guys
Never got married
No we were engaged, and I never...
Why not?
Because he wasn't ready.
I told him, you know, when you stop being Dr. Dre and be Andre,
then, you know, I was serious if I was ever going to get married.
But you had a kid.
We didn't have a kid.
We were together five years before we had a child.
Five years.
So you finally had a child and still decided not to get married.
Yeah, just for what?
And then what broke your love?
What made you turn away?
What made you leave?
Same thing.
Just the same.
Just waiting them out.
Girl after girl fighting.
I'm 27.
I finally put my fist down
and said,
I just can't do it.
That was one thing.
It was a lot,
but that was really...
You get tired.
You guys used to fist fight a lot?
I didn't put...
Well, I tried.
Right, but you got bigger than me. Oh, yeah. I was losing. You was losing? Yeah, a lot? I didn't put, well, I tried. Right, but you do that bigger than me.
Oh, yeah.
I was losing.
You was losing?
Yeah, it's safe to say.
Now, Little Mo made a, it wasn't funny, but a joke about something.
The Beats.
Yeah, no, she did.
She said he started his company, Beats by Dre, was from an incident with you.
Did you find that funny, or it was?
Yeah, I get it.
I get her sense of humor.
So coming from her, if it were coming from someone else,
I probably would have took it the other way.
But now I know how she thinks.
So it wasn't a bad joke.
I mean, it was actually quite clever.
So...
But I'm sure that was difficult for you
because I feel like for you, I know you first,
when they asked you to do R&B Divas, you turned it down.
But then you said Kelly Price came and asked you directly.
She called me.
Right, and you decided to do it.
So it seems like it's been really therapeutic for you.
You've been able to come out and talk about a lot of different things
that people might not have known before.
Was it difficult for you to come out and talk about your relationship
with Dr. Dre and him putting his hands on you?
Did he break your nose or?
Yeah, he did.
He broke your nose?
Was he upset?
I had five black eyes.
Five black eyes?
I have a cracked rib.
A cracked rib?
Yes, I have scars that are just amazing.
Yeesh.
Did you feel like you never wanted anybody to know that?
Like, were you embarrassed about it?
Or do you think that he would?
It was normal.
And everybody that knew, it was normal.
And you never called the police one time?
How did he break your nose?
With his fist?
Yeah, he was a fist.
He closed his.
Goodness gracious.
Closed his.
And has he since apologized?
I know this was a long time ago,
but I'm sure a lot of people have addressed it like,
okay, we never knew you were like this.
Did he apologize to you and say,
you know what?
I was messed up back then.
We were young.
I made some big mistakes.
No, he hasn't apologized to this day, and it wouldn't even do any good because it's the past.
Right.
I will pass that, but I do remember when he first hit me.
When he first gave me my very first black eye, we laid in the bed, and he cried.
He was crying.
I was crying because I was in shock and hurt and pain. I bed and he cried he was crying i was crying because you know
shock and hurt and pain i don't know why he was crying but he said you know i'm really sorry i
think that's the only time he'd ever said he was sorry and he um he said i'll never hit you in that
eye again okay and i was like yeah okay and we fell asleep so years later i was talking to my
friend and i joked and said yeah you know he said he wasn't
gonna hit me in this eye ever again so he started hitting me in that one so you know I just you
start humoring you have to to get through the pain so it became you know we were Ike and Turner I mean
we we we Ike and you know Tina so just the it was normal it was what made you stay was he putting
it down in bed was it the money like what made you stay? Was he putting it down in bed?
Was it the money?
Like, what made you stay?
Oh, wow.
Yeah, I have to say,
but what about me?
I was doing my part.
Oh, there you go.
You were multi-platinum.
Yeah, so, yeah,
I mean, yeah.
So, you know,
he was coming back,
so I think that...
Kinky Michelle,
all right,
Kinky Michelle.
Well, nice to,
I mean,
he...
No, but I think it was a multitude of things, though.
Because when you've been with somebody so long,
you become codependent upon them
and your self-esteem is what they've given you now.
Right.
Now, how do you leave Dr. Dre and go to Dr. Dre's enemy?
Well, see, they weren't quite enemies.
They weren't?
You've even said that Suge Knight is the one that kind of taught you
a man's not supposed to put his hand.
Yeah, Suge was always the protector.
And he was like, no, you
don't have to do that. You would think
Suge would be the one, you know, from the reputation
that he has, that would be really
aggressive. But how did that happen? Because they were business
partners, and then you just left Dre
and went to Suge.
Actually, it was a time lapse.
I did not just take my shit
to shake him
and roll that one off
and roll that one off.
Okay.
Yeah, that's hospital talk.
No, actually,
Dre was,
I went away
and I was gone
for like two and a half months
and I came back
and they said,
oh, Dr. Dre's engaged.
I had already had it out
with this girl
before I left.
One of the girls he cheated on you with.
His wife of now.
His wife now.
But back then, that was one of the girls.
Yeah, he was sleeping with her.
So I was like, come on, you know.
And I mean, she was, she was like, she knew she wanted, you know, what she wanted.
It was hands down.
She was the first one that came into his life the way I went.
Oh, God.
You know, she saw the big house.
She saw the kid. she saw the she was
looking at our things
going ooh
so you know
the other girls
just wanted to be
so she was like
a friend of yours
no I'm saying
she knew
she was the first one in
she knew what money was
why the other girls
just was happy
to be sleeping with him
right to be in the limelight
yeah to be like
you gonna do me a record
okay
you know but this one
so she was out for the check
she was out for the check I mean she came straight for the check she was out she's with Dr. but this one So she was out for the check She was out for the check
I mean she came straight for the check
She was out
She's with Dr. Dre for the money
She came straight for the check
And I saw that
And I just went
Listen if he can't see it
I'm not standing around
To help him out
You know
You just get tired
And so at that point
It was another couple of years
Before I mean
But me and Shug
Could be here
Become my confidant
But it wasn't Shug
But at that time
Him and Shug
Were not effing
with each other, right?
No.
That's what I'm trying
to tell you.
So they were beefing?
They weren't beefing.
Oh.
She said she had no idea
that they didn't get along.
I didn't know
because Dre didn't
have an issue with Shug.
Shug had an issue
with Dre.
But he kept it quiet?
In the beginning.
Did you tell Dr. Dre
before you started
dating Shug or no?
For what?
He didn't tell me.
Yeah, he was engaged.
He had a big old ring on her finger.
He didn't call me.
I don't think why you guys think it's so
unfair. He slept with
every woman that came through our house.
And the minute I... It's because he knew this guy.
I'm the bad guy.
No, you know what it is?
We see it as Dr. Dre and Sugar and I are enemies.
When you come and you say
you had a relationship with Dre and Sugar, it's like, woo, that was his enemy. That's a way to get back. So when we hear, when you come and you say you had, you know, a relationship with Dre and Suge,
it's like,
woo, that was his enemy.
That's a way to get back.
So you think I did it
to get back or even?
I don't know.
That's what I'm asking.
No.
No?
No.
But if I did and it hurt.
Good.
That's life.
I guess we're even.
But you did end up
marrying Suge Knight. Oh, end up marrying Suge Knight.
Oh, I fake married Suge Knight.
Oh, you fake married.
What was a fake marriage?
When he's already married to somebody else and don't tell you.
Listen, there was a lot going on back then.
There was all kinds of scandals you were in.
Damn it.
Well, I was naive.
Did you have a ceremony and everything?
Yeah, well, a jail one.
He was in prison.
So he was in jail for six of the eight years.
I didn't know, okay?
And then the judge told me when I had to go get a real divorce,
he said, well, did you see a man in a black robe?
I said, no, it wasn't black.
He said, well, then you're not married.
But he was in jail six of the eight years that you guys were together.
Yeah, he was actually six and a half years.
So it was a great marriage because I didn't see him often.
Right, and he wasn't cheating on you in jail.
Well, yes, he was.
I had my day.
Who was cheating on you in jail?
Other women coming to visit.
Yeah, you know how I went.
Oh, you probably never been there.
You made it seem like he was cheating on you in jail with other people in jail.
Oh, no, no, no.
Don't start that rumor.
I didn't say that.
No, no no it was okay i had one day another girl had one day another girl had one day and another girl okay none of the ceos was
snitching because i know they do that in jail well yeah they'd be like you know another girl
well they would they would try to hold me up so that i could pass her and but passing but i had
detail so detail was smarter than they were. Were you ever scared of Suge?
I feared him.
So why would you marry him or be with him?
Because it seemed like the world feared him.
Well, because at the time, I didn't see all that.
I always saw his good side.
You didn't see that in Suge?
I always saw his good side.
Suge was, you don't need to do that.
You're a good girl.
Stay here.
Stay focused.
Do this.
Do that.
He didn't drink and smoke at that time.
Champagne was the most I'd ever seen him do.
Are you fearful of him now?
Are you scared of him now?
Absolutely not.
Because he's in jail?
No, I wasn't scared of him when he got out.
I talk to him now like he talked to me.
It took me many years to get to that point.
What are things that people don't know about Sugar
that they should know?
Because when they see Sugar,
they see this big guy that's scary. He's like the big debo they look at sugar the devil
and sometimes um but you know and but you know what but there's a good side and a bad side to
all of us we all have it in us he just he's like an animal the best way to describe him
is he has animal instinct what kind kind of animal? Is it lions?
You would have gotten in trouble for that with Michelle Obama.
What kind of animal?
He lives in his hound dog.
Well, what I'm saying, no, some poodles do attack before they think,
and then they come back and lick your wound.
And that's how he is.
Like, he'll attack you without, and then he'll come back,
and you know what, man, and then he'll explain it.
That's, like, abusive, though.
Yeah, but he doesn't know any other way to interact with you.
Like if you bumped into him, he doesn't know how to just go,
hey, you know, he like grabs your shoulder and go,
man, did you see what you know?
You know, he's already there.
As opposed to just going, okay, man.
He's already on level 10.
He already goes there.
But then he comes back down and go, yeah, man, you know,
you just can't be doing that.
And then he starts giving you all those great Those great words Right You know
Which is what he should have done
But
What's the craziest thing
She has done with you
Don't say nothing
No killing nobody
We don't want nobody
To go to jail
But the craziest thing
Besides
He clearly didn't kill her
Allegedly
Manslaughter
Murder
That he's done
To me
No just around
When you was around
That's the craziest thing
You've seen
Well that's just it
I didn't get to see all that
It was always rumored
That I heard it.
You know?
I think one of the craziest
things he did was
when he tried to hit me.
He only tried one time.
And he was so strong
that he open-hand slapped me
and threw my whole jaw out of...
I had to go into emergency.
He had...
I had to call... So he did hit you? Yes, he did. He smacked your jaw out of line? to go into emergency. He had, I had to call.
So he did hit you?
Yes.
He smacked your jaw out of line?
Yeah.
Backhand with a backhand.
And he was, he's so strong, but it just, all this just was over here.
And it wouldn't go back.
So I finally had to call him and say, you know, you're going to have to come and take me to emergency.
Wow.
So he does that to you and then he has to take you to the emergency?
Well, it was either that or the police were going to take me.
Yeah, so he got there quick.
He was on time.
That was you not wanting to snitch on somebody, boy.
You just did this to me, but I don't want to call the cops on you.
You don't call the cops on Kaza Sose.
You don't mean on Shug.
But she didn't want to call the ambulance because then she's going to have to do a police report and all that.
Right, you had to do all that.
Even when I got to the hospital and they said, what happened?
I said, I got hit by a football.
At 2 o'clock in the morning.
And that's the story I always see online, that you got hit by a football,
that you were playing football with one of your friends, hit you in the face.
But that's not, she knew it wasn't true, and so she waited.
So once they dragged me to sedate me, she was talking, she says,
I know you didn't get hit by a football. You can tell me what it is.
And it was funny because he wouldn't leave the room.
They kept telling him.
He was standing there like this.
And all I was like going in and out going, mm-mm, mm-mm.
You know what I mean?
Do you watch Empire?
Yeah, sometimes.
If you saw the season finale, good thing they didn't give you no Ambien.
You'd have been telling everything.
They're telling everything.
Yeah, because once, yeah, because I would have told her had I not caught a glimpse of...
Wasn't he standing right there?
Yeah, he wouldn't leave.
He wouldn't leave out of the room.
But I think Suga's needed in L.A.
I think Suga's needed.
I think he keeps a lot of the suckers.
What?
No, because Suga, he's a Debo.
So he will...
I think that every great city needs a Debo,
meaning somebody that basically protects the land.
Like, if you go to Detroit, it's Trick Trick.
If you go to L.A., it's Shug.
If you go to people that just make sure everything's good.
Because a lot of times, I know Shug does a lot for the community.
Like, they talk about sometimes he gives back to the kids.
You've seen that side of him, but people don't see that side of him.
That's the side I saw.
Right.
Yeah, I saw him saving houses for the homeboys and mothers who was in foreclosure.
Calling them out for in the morning, going, I need this.
Can you help me out? Him getting out
of his bed and going to help people
with their problems. He had nothing to do
with it. So I used to think that was endearing
to take on other people's
problems. Although now
I learned later that
if he do you one favor
you owe him five.
That's it.
Now let me ask you this. After you date Suge
and whatever,
have your fake marriage,
how can you date anybody
after that
or is it some,
or is it people
are too scared to date you?
Of course I think guys
are scared to date me.
I don't know.
How old's your daughter?
Twelve.
You can't,
what do you tell Suge's daughter?
Go do your homework?
I tell my daddy.
You're right.
You tell your daddy.
I'm not messing with you.
I didn't raise her like that.
She's not raised like that. She's Bailey.
But I'm sure that
it's, you know, your relationship with him is
different. I'm sure now you can do whatever you want.
I mean, you even went on a date, you know,
on R&B Divas and now you said you're not
dating anymore after that.
I'm good.
Yeah.
He's a nice guy. It's just, I'm good. Yeah. That was, yeah.
Well, he's a nice guy.
It's just,
I'm good.
Do you still get money
from,
well,
your son is older now,
so you don't get any.
No.
Did you get a lot of money
from Dr. Dre?
Did he take care of his kids
the right way or no?
I had to take him to court,
but yeah.
He finally did.
Of course.
Did he see his son
or was it just monetary?
Well,
my mom and my grandma died.
He came into my son's life.
So that was cool.
And I'm grateful that I always say they have a great relationship.
That's good.
Yeah, that's what's important.
Right.
And you said you're not going to have either one of the kids on the show
because both of their dads don't want them.
Well, they did.
And so what ended up happening was Bailey is on one scene at Chrisette's house
because she begged and I had full custody of her.
So me and Sugar were arguing for months about it.
And I just said, you know what?
She loves Chrisette.
She calls her Super Chris.
And we were wearing wings, and she loves, you know.
It was fun.
So I thought, what harm could it be?
And I really would want to see what he would do
if I defied him, you know.
And I did.
And I was like, wow.
And he didn't call and say anything.
So I was like.
He seems serious about his kids, too.
Oh, he's very.
That's the one thing I say.
He stalks me to be a part of her life.
That's dope.
And Chrisette Michelle is no longer on the show.
And I know that was a really good friend of yours.
But you guys stay in touch. Because I know some of the other people was a really good friend of yours. But you guys stay in touch.
Because I know some of the other people said they haven't spoken to her.
Yeah, we stay in touch.
And are you thinking about getting a life coach or anything like that?
Have you thought about that since she went in?
Therapy is really good.
So I'm kind of sticking with therapy.
You know, I mean, a life coach I may graduate to.
But right now I just got to, you know, focus and, you know, figure out.
Like, life to me is not about where you are.
Sometimes you have to go back and understand why you are the way you are.
And I never thought that was true.
But then when they connect the dots for you, you go, I would have never saw that.
You know, why did I date the same kind of man?
And, you know, and you look for the same kind of, and, you know, I would have never saw that. You know, why did I date the same kind of man?
And, you know, and you look for the same kind of, and, you know,
you attract the same kind.
It's not them, it's you, first of all.
So they teach you just a lot.
And a lot of it comes from you being a child in your household and what you see that you've put in your subconscious.
Now, people always talk about Suge Knight being involved with the murder of Biggie
or the murder of Tupac.
Now you were around him during those times, right?
He was in prison.
Oh, he was in prison.
So do you think that he could have possibly been involved with any of that?
My honest opinion is I think he took the credit.
I'm sorry.
I just think he took the credit.
I mean, there was no signs to me.
Do you know what I mean?
I don't.
I don't.
My wife's nowhere near Suge if she was.
I would have left a long time ago because I'm scared.
You can't be scared now.
He's an old man.
I'm totally, I'm not scared of him.
Did you see the video of Suge allegedly running over a dude?
I am still scared.
I don't mess with him.
Well, he allegedly ran.
Well, he was.
He did run him over.
Yeah, I seen that part.
He did run him over.
We don't know the reason behind it.
Yeah, we don't know the reason.
I don't know if he was trying to flee or.
He was trying to flee.
In danger.
Yeah.
The guy was hitting him through the window.
So he was.
And then when Suge was trying to open the door, he was trying to push the door.
So he just said, okay, and took him back to check up.
But, you know, the rapture mirror is so big that it, you know, so.
But you also are working on a book.
Yes.
Let's talk about this book.
What's in this book?
My life.
It's about me.
Your life and everything, your relationships and what you've conquered and everything.
Do you feel like the book is also part of your therapy?
Absolutely.
Just to get things out from the beginning?
So you're going to start at the beginning of your life.
Nah, nah, I'm going to be like Jesus.
You know, the first 18 years, y'all going to lose.
Let it go.
Just let it go.
Let's start from the good part.
The good part, okay.
Yeah, you guys are coming out.
I do want to tell a story about my mom and my dad
so that people understand why I'm so not connected, you know.
So why I didn't see what may look wrong to other people didn't affect me.
So your dad was abusive towards your mom?
No.
Oh.
They were never together.
Oh, they were never together.
Okay.
Yes, I was born out of sex. Like my daughter. Right. Oh. They were never together. Oh, they were never together. Okay. Yes, I was born out of sex.
Like my daughter. Right. Yes. Okay, so, all right, so they were never together, and then, so you feel
like you don't have a connection with them? Well, they weren't, they weren't parents that were
affectionate, and they weren't, they weren't, they didn't tell me they loved me. They don't say it.
Right.
What about your voice?
They had to joke you a lot in school, did they?
No, I was quiet.
Really?
And I was a good student, so I didn't have to worry.
Not at all?
Yeah, I stayed in my lane.
And you were business-wise, would you say you were pretty good business-wise?
Because I know they always say, you know, with you and when you were with Suge,
you did a lot of stuff behind the scenes for the company.
I tried.
And then he would destroy it.
Like what kind of things were you doing?
Well, one thing I can say I told him to do, I said,
why don't you just shut that road down and grass and and
and grace landed you know like Elvis's estate and just make it so hard to get that it would be worth
the memorabilia would be worth so much that would be smart yeah right he didn't do it I was like
please then he came to me many years later and said you're right no if he had that would have
been a great idea it would have been just a catalog alone yeah just a catalog I don't think
he owns any of that anymore nothing I mean the memorabil, that would have been a great idea. Just the catalog alone. Yeah, just the catalog alone. And I don't think he owns any of that anymore.
Nothing.
I mean, the memorabilia alone would have been still worth a fortune.
Worth a fortune.
So he wouldn't listen to me.
So I said, you know what?
Let me leave this alone because you're going to come out broke.
Ooh, that must have been me and my Miss Cleo day.
What made you finally decide to leave him after holding it down? OK, he was locked up for six and a half years, having a child together, you know, thinking you were married, watching all these women coming in.
Why did you finally say, OK, I'm done?
Real short story.
Had a mistress, but he told me a different story about her and I had seen her back when we were friends.
So I believe that she was just his homeboy's friend you know girlfriend right and he was just
taking care of her and her son because he was he had got life in prison right so it's a code of the
guys like I'm gonna take care of the family I thought that was endearing to me I thought that
is so sweet that's how dumb I was that is so sweet and come to find out in about, I'll say around 96, about 95.
When I bought 95, going to 996, I found out she was the main mistress for many, many, many years.
And then once she got pregnant, a year or two, a year and a half after I had my daughter, I said, that's it.
Right, I can't.
Oh, that was it. Right, I can't remember.
Oh, that was it.
Because I felt like a complete fool.
That's when it really... And you probably welcomed this woman into the house.
Well, no, but I mean, look what I did.
I gave up everything.
I lost friends.
I lost, you know, and here, you know,
I just thought that was...
So your friends were telling you,
leave this man alone.
You got to get away.
And you had to make friends.
Well, yeah.
Well, I had no friends.
I couldn't have any male friends.
He didn't like my girlfriend of all the years.
So I was reclusive.
I was the princess in a castle.
Wow.
We appreciate you joining us and sharing your story.
When is the book coming out?
How far along are you?
It should come out this year, actually.
For real this year.
But I'm doing a made-for-TV movie.
So that's going to be interesting.
Does Suga own any of the book, anything?
Who?
I'm just asking.
Why?
All you care about is Suga.
No, I'm just asking.
Because you know, like, 50 Cent's baby mom owns a part of anything that she puts out.
So I was just asking if that was the same.
No.
He's not getting anything.
So what's the made-for-TV movie?
It's based on your life?
Mm-hmm.
Wow. Yes, because it's not getting any. So what's the name for TV movies based on your life? Mm-hmm. Wow.
Yeah, because it's just so funny.
It's almost like you guys are going to go.
It's going to be hard to find somebody to play you in your voice the whole show.
It's going to be hard.
That's going to be difficult.
You know what?
When I looked at your voice, I forgot how your voice was, and I was like, wow.
It's so different.
It's so different.
Distinctive, we like to say.
There you go.
And what about the Straight Outta Compton movie?
Have they contacted you yet?
No, I was told I wasn't in it.
Really?
Yeah.
So I can't wait to see that too.
That's going to be interesting.
They should have at least talked to you though
because I'm sure you had a lot of information.
I was there when it was starting.
And you were the only woman that was on Ruthless Records.
You were, you know, I don't understand why they wouldn't put you.
Well, that's their story and I have mine.
So that's the best way to put that.
That should be interesting.
I'm going to read the book too and everything.
Well, Michelle, that's how you pronounce it, right?
Michelle?
Michelle.
Michelle, we appreciate you joining us this morning.
A lot of fun.
And you're not from Compton.
You're from?
I'm from South Central.
South Central.
All right.
South Central in this motherf***er.
It's the Breakfast Club.
Andy, what was that?
I just tried to be hard.
It's South Central.
I don't know.
It's the Breakfast Club, Michele.
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