The Breakfast Club - Mike Africa Interview and more

Episode Date: July 6, 2021

Today on the show we had some flashback to some classic interivews such as Mike Epps and Wanda Sykes where they spoke about 'The Upshaws', New Comedy Landscape and learning from each other. We also flashed back to the time Jo Koy stopped by and spoke about Mental Health, Being Subject To Racism, New Book 'Mixed Plate' and more. We also, flashed back to the time Charlamagne gave "Donkey of the Day" to Derrick Jaxn for not only embarrassing his wife but being a narcissist. However it wasn't all classics as we also had Mike Africa who discussed The 1978 Police Raid On The MOVE Group & The Fight To Exonerate His Parents. Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Have grace with yourself. You're trying your best. And you're going to figure out the rhythm of this thing thing alicia keys like you've never heard her before listen to on purpose with jay shetty on the iheart radio app apple podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts I can't believe you guys are the best, kid. Collectively known as Breakfast Club, bitches. I'm telling, I'm telling. Hey, what you doing, man? I'm telling.

I'm calling, calling, yo. This is your time to get it off your chest, whether you're mad or blessed. 800-585-1051. We want to hear from you on The Breakfast Club. Hello, who's this? Good morning, good morning. It's Xavier.

Xavier, good morning. Get it off your chest, bro. Actually, I just want to start off with some positivity. I want to shout out my sister and brother-in-law. They're actually starting their own business called Teacher Love Box. They actually called and got through to you guys about two weeks ago. Wanted to give it a shot again and let everybody know. Get on there and check it out.

We want to just spread some love to the teachers. Will do, my brother. I always am a fan of spreading love to teachers, man. That is one of the most important jobs that's the most underpaid. Yeah, my mother's a teacher. English teacher. South Carolina, man. 30 plus years. Hey, show me if you want to get our box, man. Get one.

Give me the website again? That actually would be a good idea. What's the website again? Teacher Love Box Official. And that's on Instagram and then you can get right to the website. I'm going to order one today, my brother.

Teacher Lovebox Official. Yes, sir. Yes, sir. Hey, Charleston, do you mind sending me one of your books? If you got any back in yet? Well, I don't,

but I'll send you a copy of Tamika Mallory's State of Emergency, How to Win in the Country We Built. Oh, yeah. Yeah, I'll try that one. All right, definitely to Win in the Country We Built. Oh, yeah. Yeah. I'll try that one out.

It's a mental health. Can't we all, my brother? Can't we all? Yeah. All right. Hold on, man. Hold on, brother. Hold on so I can get your address.

Yes, sir. Yes, sir. Hello. Who's this? Hi. This is Mel. This is DJ Envy. This is Mel?

Mel. Mel. Mel, what up, man? Get off your chest. Good morning. No. Good morning, Dr. Charlemagne. Good morning, Angelique. Mal, what up, man? Get off your chest. Good morning. No, um, good morning, Dr. Charlemagne. Good morning, Angelique.

I'm a long-time listener every day. Don't give me the days my stuff. Thank you, brother. I live with a female for nine years, and we've been together, well, we worked together for nine years, but I live with her, and I sleep in the living room, and she sleeps in her room, and I wake up, I wake up live with her, and I sleep in the living room, and she sleeps in her room.

And I wake up every day at 4 o'clock in the morning just to use the bathroom because she might, you know, pee in the bed. What? She pees in the bed? Yeah, we're basically roommates. You can say that. Y'all don't have sex or anything like that? No relationship? No, sir.

This is my dad. This is my dad. What's the reason, though? Like, I mean, is it for financial reasons? Or what's the reason y'all still roommates? Because her twin daughters, we have been in their life since they were babies. So she don't want to be with nobody else.

She wants to be with somebody else, but she doesn't want to bring another guy into the relationship. It's comfortable for her. Because she said that something might happen. Because they have a special disability. They want to be deaf. Got it.

Got you. So she don't really want you. She just wants you around the kids. She'd rather see somebody else. She just feels comfortable with you. Yes. Okay. So what about if you want to date somebody else, does she want to date somebody else?

That's the thing. She tells me, like, I'm going to go out and spend the night out. Or she gives me, like, basically say a curfew. If you're not home by 1130, I already go out and spend the night out or she gives me like basically say a curfew if you're not home by 11 30 i already know you're spending the night out so how old i'm gonna be honest with you how old are you sir 37 yeah this what you said this sounds like the story you tell other women because you know you got a girl so you'd be like no i don't really got a girl you know i'm saying but we just live You know, her kids got special needs. I just take care of the kids, but we not really together.

That's, it sounds like the story you tell other women. No, not really. Yeah, I'm sure he wouldn't call up here and lie to us. Uh, why not? No, I'm not lying. I'm not lying. Yeah, no, I believe you. That's what I'm saying. It's an unusual enragement, but people do get, like, comfortable with someone. They're scared

to move on. I always say that some people get comfortable in being, like, like, comfortable with someone. They're scared to move on. I always say that some people get comfortable in being, like, in a dysfunctional relationship. But he seems trapped, though. There's this girl. Yeah, so he's trapped. Like, you can't see other people. Right. No, no. She can't see other people.

She said, I want to see other people. I don't want to be with you, but I just got you around because you go with the kids. Like, he said, like, he can't. No, but she told him if he stays out until past 1130, I know you're with somebody else. Don't come back. What kind of sense is that? Come on now. Well, Candace, good morning.

Good morning. How are you? I'm doing well. Get it off your chest, mama. I would like to congratulate you for your 20-year anniversary. Congratulations, Charlamagne, for being a doctor's darling. Thank you. And you are just amazing

and there's nothing like finding your life partner, your best friend I would like to also shout out my king, we don't got nothing on you and your wife for 20 years not yet, you'll be there soon just time, all they got on you is time that's right mama

wait, wait, wait, one more thing I would like to, you know, just a reminder because I caught last week and I appreciate y'all putting me on y'all platform. I also would like to say, so make sure y'all do y'all check-ins with y'all family and friends because we need people sometimes to check on us. And don't forget to follow me at

My Peace, My Truth. And make sure that y'all buy you know, your shirt so you can speak out against mental health. Okay. Thank you, Mama. Absolutely. Thank you. Get it off your chest. 800-585-1051. If you need to vent, hit us up now. It's The Breakfast Club. Good morning.

This is your time to get it off your chest. Whether you're mad or blessed, we want to hear from you on The Breakfast Club. So if you got something on your mind, let it out. Hello, who's this? Ross. Hey, what's up, bro?

Get it off your chest. Yeah, just really having a hard time with relationship issues. Aw, what's the matter? What's your problem, bro? It's both ways. Neither one of us has trust in each other. Why don't y'all have trust? What did y'all do to destroy the trust?

Maybe I was working multiple jobs for one, I think. And a lot of friends and families and influences and stuff like that, you know. That doesn't seem like

a reason to dissolve trust. Yeah, we need a little more information than that. And we want you to be honest. Like, what is the real reason? There's reasons why people don't trust each other. Well, she went searching to try to find something that she heard from a friend

Started doing searching and being fine up though. I think that's kind of where the choice went like about a year ago So you're saying she tried to step out but you didn't but she was because she felt guilty about what she was doing she thought I tried to step out and went doing some searching and didn't find nothing but i always have friends in the area and you know telling her this and telling her that uh used to accuse me of cheating basically every day that you know saying all this and that you you know less of a man you don't have this you don't have that uh it's a lot you know it's a lot of neck kicking it is a child involved you know so that's my main focus i'm like we need to come together for our child have you tried couples counseling we actually yeah we tried counseling but when we talked to a neutral person that don't know anything about a relationship.

It's difficult, I'm sure. And he was telling us, like, what we need to know. And, like, when you're saying you don't have a problem, it really is a problem. She wasn't honest. Yes. And, honestly, she, like, a couple months ago, she, if you have gave me an STD or anything, I'm leaving you. Why would you think that? Because I'm not doing anything.

Do you not trust her? Well, I did trust her until all these functions and want to hang out with friends all the time instead of trying to build what's in the house. Well, hold on. It seems like you need some more help from me. So you hold on friends all the time instead of, like, trying to build what's in the house. Well, hold on. It seems like you need some more help from me. So you hold on, all right? Hello, who's this? It's Jelly Belly from Boston.

Jelly Belly, good morning. Get it off your chest. Jelly Belly. First off, I want to thank your producer for being who he is because he gives me life every time. I love his energy. He's very therapeutic.

On that note, I am a financial therapist, and I've been going within my family to, like, literally change their lives, and I've been shocking people that I didn't think I could shock. So I know it's Mental Health Awareness Month, and I focus on that aspect a lot of it, what I do, because it's the education that's important. I do thank you guys for being a platform that I can say this. So I would love you guys to follow me on Instagram.

I'm trying to figure out my life on the social media platform. Jenae's Financial Therapy. You can follow me on Instagram. It's J-E-N-A-E. Everybody gets it wrong, including my father. That's a shame. Didn't they name you? Right. I don't know if he was there.

That makes me concerned. But I love you guys. I love, love, love you guys. And I always tell everybody to leave it love and greatness shall follow. My condolences to you, Envy. I did DM you like last week or two weeks ago um if you could check that but janae what's a financial therapist do well my mission is to ease the mind ease the pain around finances because a lot of the times i'm black men are being told to be the providers

and they feel like they don't have an outlet to go say like oh i don't know how to do this you know like and they shun away from therapy that's not something we talk about in our community a lot so putting them both together we need to open up we need to open up because there's ways that we can win and it's not always just about not not to shun you or whatever um and be but it's not just about about not to shun you or whatever, but it's not just about real estate because that's what most people like to do. If I need to do real estate,

that's going to bring me passive income, but there's other ways to do it. So just, you know, I want to ease that pain like any other therapist would do. Okay, I love it. And I'm licensed in many states, so it's sufficient, and it's free information, so let's get it, you know what I mean? That's what I'm talking about many states. So it's sufficient. And it's free information. So let's get it.

You know what I mean? That's what I'm talking about. Information be out there. Absolutely. Get it off your chest. 800-585-1051. If you need to vent, hit us up now. It's The Breakfast Club.

Good morning. The Breakfast Club. Hey, everybody. It's DJ Envy, Angela Yee. Call me in the car. We are The Breakfast Club. We got some special guests joining us this morning. That's right. One of them has been here a whole lot.

Super friend to the room. Absolutely. Our guy, Mike Epps. Another is a legend who I'm mad. It's the first time we ever talking to her on Breakfast Club, and it's via damn Zoom. That's right. Wanda Sykes, welcome. Good morning.

Good morning. I mean, finally, I made it. I made it to the Breakfast Club. You should have been here in person. That's what you should have been. What did I have to do to get here? And like you said, it's Zoom. Wanda, when I saw you... I had to keep up with Mike Epps and get a show on Netflix as number one,

and I finally made it to the Breakfast Club. I saw you at Tiffany Haddish's 40th birthday party in December of 2019 and you said you was coming to Breakfast Club and then here come COVID. I know, right? Wanda, if you would have caught a gun charge a long time ago, you'd have been on there.

Right, Mike. We are celebrating good news though with the new show the upshaws i like the good news because uh page has been telling me about this show for quite a while because he was on the show so he kept talking it up talking it up and you know how somebody talks about something you're like all right when is the show coming out already? But it's out. And so congratulations on how well it's doing on Netflix. Thank you. Thanks a lot, Ashley. Yeah, it's, I mean, thank y'all. Thank the fans. Thank y'all for watching, man.

I was saying, y'all just not binging it. Y'all are devouring it. I mean, people are like watching it like two or three times. It's amazing. Hey, let me ask y'all a question, man, before we get started. Because we just did come out of a pandemic. I guess we still in it. But how are y'all?

And I want an honest answer. I mean, I ain't going to lie. I've been through a lot. You know what I mean? I've been through. I lost both my parents in December. And previous you know, previous to that, we was all

on home detention. We was locked down. So, it's been rough for me. But, you know, I got so much faith in God, I ain't gonna let nothing stop me. I got to stay down. I'm doing what they wanted me to do. You know what I mean? And let's be good. Let's be successful.

And be happy. You know what I mean? I'm sending you healing energy Let's be successful and be happy. You know what I mean? I'm sending you healing energy, Mike. Damn. Absolutely, brother. Yeah. Mike has really, you know, been through it. And I think it was cool that we, you know, weren't just doing a show about a family, you know.

I've known Mike for years. So it's like we're family, you know. So we all, you know, was supporting him, keeping him lifted up. But he's a strong brother. He really is. And he has, like you said, that faith in God. And it got us all through, you know?

And, you know, I'm dealing with the kids and everything and all. it's uh you know we just feel we just feel blessed really I mean you know right and then and we're not gonna sugarcoat it I mean a lot of people went through depression you know I had some issues you know dealing with it because it was just we've never experienced something like this you know like Mike was saying like and then when you see all these people losing their lives, I know so many friends who've lost people also, and you feel blessed, but

you also are like, it's just sad. You just feel sad, and then all the stuff we were going through from George Floyd on, and before that, you know, it was just dang, it just feels like the camel's about to break, man. All right, when we come back, we have more with Wanda Sykes and Mike Abstey on the new Netflix series, The Upshores Don't Move.

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on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Morning, everybody. It's EJ, Envy, Angela Yeee charlamagne the guy we are the breakfast club we're kicking it with wanda sykes and mike epps charlamagne so you were ep on this show too right yeah ep and uh and uh co-creator with regina hicks how is the approach different when you the ep and co-creator and you starring in how is your approach to the to the role different

um well you know i've been in this position before so it was uh you know i'm in the writer's room and uh you know getting the scripts together and everything and then when i'm but when i'm on stage and performing i i try to you know i turn that other part off so we can, you know, so I can make the make the performance. But when when I'm not in the scene, then I get back behind the monitors and, you know, and watch everything. But it was cool working with Mike because, you know, like encourage him to like, hey, man if this this how would you say this if this doesn't sound right to you or you know mike you got a better joke for this so it was it was just um real cool very collaborative absolutely it looks like y'all probably had a lot of fun on set too working together like that looked like it was fun it was fun showing up every morning with wanda kim and page and Paige. I mean,

it was almost like summer school. You remember how fun summer school used to be? No, no. I don't. I do. That was not fun. I mean, you don't have to go all day, you know what I mean? You can just sit for a couple hours. I hated being there, but I get what you're saying. It was fun.

I had to go for 7th grade, 8th grade, and 9th grade. Three years in a row with my dumb ass. Summer school. Well, I have to thank you so much for checking in. And Mike Epps, we appreciate you. Also, Mike Epps, I want to say thank you. You know, when The Breakfast Club first started,

you were one of the comedians that came on and you rocked with us when a lot of people didn't. You remember, we just seen a skit that you did. I think it was like our first skit. You remember that skit? Yeah. When you got the girls in. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Hey, not only that, Mike used to have me host his, I don't know if that was Easter Sunday. It was a show you used to do at the Garden every year for about three, four years.

And Mike used to always have me host it, man. I appreciate that. That's a tough crowd. That's a tough crowd to host in front of when you're not a comedian. Not for me. All I had to appreciate that. That's a tough crowd. That's a tough crowd to host in front of when you're not a comedian. Not for me.

All I had to do was say, come into the stage. Y'all ready for mic ups? Make some noise. Got love for the Breakfast Club, man. Love for the Breakfast Club. I'm just honored I finally made it here, man. No, you got to come to the studio, Wanda.

We need you in the studio. We are honored, and I would be so excited for you to come up in person. Absolutely. Absolutely. All right. Thank you. We love y'all.

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Call 800-585-1051 to join in to the discussion with The Breakfast Club. Talk about it. Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy, Angela Yee, Charlamagne Tha Guy. We are The Breakfast Club. Now, if you just joined us, we're asking, have you ever fell in love with a stripper? Now, I frequently DJ strip clubs all the time. And I remember one particular time our camera guy up here, he was feeling sad.

So I took him out for his birthday. Which one? Nick? No, no, Steve. Camera guy Steve. Oh, Steve. Steve. Okay, Steve.

Now, I did my set. I was out of the club at about 3 o'clock. I said, yo, Steve, you ready to go? He was like, nah, I'll stay for a little bit. I was like, Steve, you know nobody here. He was like, no, but you know the stripper's feeling me. I said, no, she's not feeling you., no, she's not feeling you, sir. She's feeling the money that you're throwing. He's like, no, no, no. I think we have a connection. I said, well, hit me when

you get home. So I know you made it home safe. Steve waited there until about 420 till she got out of work. That's how much in love he was with that stripper. Now, what happened after that? I don't know, but he was definitely in love. It's the stripper's job to give you attention guys it's a completely transactional relationship yes you're throwing your ones she's dancing that's what the script club is for it's like literally going into a barbershop paying the barber to cut your hair and saying yo i think i think he's feeling me yo he's He's playing on my neck. No, he's cutting your hair. Okay? It's the same thing with a stripper.

But I will say this, and for the strippers out there, when the strippers don't dance and they have conversations with their mark, I'll call them, that's when it gets a little... They're having conversations to see if you got some goddamn money. To see if they should be wasting their time with you. The conversation makes the mark feel special because he's like, wow. You dance for everybody, but you're sitting down talking to me. I think she likes you.

That's why Scripps was a great host. Drop on the Clues Bonds for all the Scripps out there. That's why they're amazing at what they do because they make you feel special. They make you feel wanted. And that's how you have to make somebody feel if you want them to throw their money. Salute to all the Scripps, man. Yeah, you ever fell in love with a stripper? No, I absolutely haven't.

I have a lot of friends who are strippers, or former strippers. I mean, I never fell in love with a stripper. I mean, you know, I've been fond of one in my day, okay, but never fell in love. And the first time you got a, uh, uh, uh, was that a strip club? Yeah, that was, pfft, I was a kid, though. I wasn't even old enough to be in the strip club. I'll tell you this, too. We need to be asking this question about the bottle girls, the bartenders.

The bartenders. This generation might have definitely fell in love with a couple of bartenders, a couple of bottle girls before the Scribbles. Well, hello. Who's this? Yes, hello. This is Sean. Sean, it sounds like you fell in love with a strip or a bottle girl.

Yes, I fell in love with a Hooters girl. Back in the day, me and my friends, we used to go up there up in Connecticut, and she was a beautiful brown-skinned woman, and I would tease her a lot, and I ended up, she ended up finessing me into paying for her car payment. Damn. And then I remember I would come in the Hooters, and at one point in time, she wouldn't give me the energy and the love that I thought I would come in the Hooters, and at one point in time, she wasn't giving me the energy and the love that I thought I deserved.

But... You hear your goddamn fragile ego? She didn't give me the love I deserve. What the hell you mean? Well, you know, I was tipping her nicely, man. Nicely. Ego, bro. You leading with ego, bro.

Oh, boy. Poor you. That's all ego. Hello, who's this? Hey, it's Mitra. What's up, y'all? What's up, Mitra? Who you fell in love with, Mitra? So, it was my masseuse. It was a female masseuse that massaged

me and my husband actually dropped me off at the appointment and I was like, we go together now? But yeah, I was really feeling her and it was crazy. What made you feel her so much? Huh? What made you feel her so much?

Her hands. She knew how to use her hands. Did she touch places she wasn't supposed to? No, she wasn't. But I wanted her to. Goodness gracious. So why you didn't keep in touch with her? She probably did.

I just did. And we was on vacation. so we were out of town. I mean, it is what it is. All right. Thank you, Mama. Hello, who's this? This is Nick. Nick, you fell in love with a stripper, bro?

Yeah, man. I think I'm in love with one right now. What's her name? Asia, baby. This is Mary Flawless, man. We got to start playing with her. Oh, Lord. Have you tried to highlight her outside of office office i was certain when she's not working

yeah i mean cool people you know i got the instagram or whatever i'll talk to her you know we talked a little bit but it's hard to get her out the club man do you spend a lot of money in the club on her um i've spent a decent amount, but I think where the connection came at is when she came on the podcast. She came on your podcast? Yeah, yeah. You know, the Eat Your Face podcast. She came on two different episodes. We called them strip episodes.

And we had her and a couple other people. But, you know, just getting to sit there and interview her and talk to her. I don't think I've met this girl. So why don't you tell her? Why don't you be like, I'm going to be honest with you. I really like you. You know what I'm saying? I feel like he just did.

Maybe you can offset her lifestyle. You got enough money to offset her lifestyle? I'll make a decent amount. But I think, you know, she get a lot of money already. So the money ain't going to hit her. You know, she's used to it. So like, show her love. Show her real love.

Like, court her You know I'm saying like like treat her the way you would want like somebody to treat your daughter You would want your father to treat your mom like you show us some real love Why not hello this Hey DJ, what's up, brother? You fell in love with a stripper, bro? No, man. My baby mom's a stripper, man. Oh, word. Congratulations. Was she a stripper before or after y'all had the baby? I was with her before she wouldn't be a stripper or whatever.

And then she got a job at the strip club. Then I started DJing there. I mean, we were just co-parenting. We worked together or something like that. You know what I mean? But that was my shorty. You know what I mean? OK. Why y'all not I mean? But, you know, that was my shorty. You know what I mean? Mm.

Okay. Why y'all not together now? Aw, man. I had to leave that alone, man. That's, like, too crazy in there, man. I don't be liking to be in there no more, man. I be chilling out. I got other kids, man, and I got a job now.

I just be chilling out, man. Well, maybe she needs to make you increase your child support so she don't got to script no more. You stupid. Hello, who's this? Chris what up, man? You fell in love with a stripper, bro? Oh, yeah Oh my god, she blew my mind she gave you a lap dance and blew your mind and you love what's her name? Yes, Memphis man

So I got the lap dance and I got a number and all in and I hooked up with her again And that's the second time I hooked up with her again And that second time I hooked up with her When I went to the gas station I got all kinds of pills And stuff Man I couldn't even finish

I was I got my money's worth I'll tell you that Damn You got my money's worth Alright man Stay away from the gas station pills man Lord have mercy

On my poor soul man What's that man What's the moral of the story I mean There is no moral of the story. Y'all brothers just gotta stop letting y'all ego lead, man, because some of y'all ego be making y'all believe things that don't exist, like y'all

relationships with these strippers. Alright? All a stripper owes you is a dance. That's it. And that's only because the relationship is transactional. You paid for the service. She provided that service. That's that. Y'all get to know each other outside of that. And you know something happens.

Great. Other than that, goddamn tipping. Keep it moving. Lord have mercy. All right, we got more coming up next. Keep it locked. It's the best of The Breakfast Club. The Breakfast Club.

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happened to tulsa that was all because of self-sufficiency rosewood you know i mean philly philly exactly exactly they're dropping bombs on people just because because of self-sufficiency. Rosewood. Philly. Philly, exactly. They're dropping bombs on people just because you're self-sufficient and breaking away from their system and creating your own system. People that don't know, just break that down, the whole story. Because a lot of people won't know what the organization was and what they did and how strong they were in Philly. And there's also a documentary

too on HBO called 40 Years a Prisoner too. So the organization started in 72 by John Africa, my great uncle. And the mission's simple. Protect life. You know, if you see animals that need help, protect them. If you see people that need help, help them.

You know, and when you're talking about, like, protecting people from, like, police and judges and politicians that were crooked and dirty and not really doing their job, you know, they pushed back, and they did. And so, you know, John Africa's a Korean War veteran, and he saw the destruction of life and he, you know, got involved in protecting the environment.

And look at like what's happening in the Keystone Pipeline. People talking about protecting the environment. You know what I mean? And so the system, they pushed back, they came and they said, you got to stop this. You know, move people at the protest against the zoo or the circus and said, animals, they're not supposed to be in these cages. You don't like being in a cage.

Why are you going to put them in a cage? They're God's creatures just like us. So eventually. Were they militant? Was MOVE militant? Yes. Yeah. Yeah, real militant.

And especially at that time, you know, the revolutionaries at that time were suits and ties. You know, Martin Luther King was just, you know, not long before that, same with Malcolm. And people was like, yo, what's up with this hair? And you know what I'm saying? This crazy hair. Dreadlocks wasn't popular in 1972. You know what I mean? Marley ain't really hit the states like that back then. And

so the police started coming at people, attacking people. And at one point... For no reason at all. For protesting. For protesting. For protesting, unrelenting protesting. What were they protesting at the time? They were protesting against the Barnum and Bailey Ringling Brothers Circus. You know, animals, these animals, this tiger don't belong in those circuses.

It wasn't, you had to go steal that tiger from Bangladesh, just like you had to steal Africans from Africa. Right. And look at how they changed the circus today now, just in response. It took that long. Exactly. So pregnant women would be protesting against these things. And brutalized. And they were brutalized. And pregnant women were beaten, kicked into miscarriage by the police. And then MOVE took a stand. They said, well, look, we're going to fight fire with fire.

Y'all come at us next time. We're going to come back and we're going to protect ourselves and we're going to defend ourselves. An armed standoff, just like the Panthers. And that led to the police coming and they said, all right, well, Frank Rizzo, who was the mayor at the time, Trump of 1978, he said, all right, the police will be in there to drag them out by the backs of their necks. No question about that, children or not. And they came. So you had a house in Philly. How many people were in that house when they came came so the move had multiple houses around the city you

know it's not a and in Virginia right Virginia yeah we were in Virginia too it's a you know it's a lot of people so you know you don't you don't just live in one house but that was that where we were at that time was the headquarters right and at the time it was like I was like 12 adults and a bunch of kids and the police came and they and they they came with tear gas housing code violations too many people living in the house or whatever that was like the reason housing code violations that's it nobody killed nobody nobody beat nobody we didn't nobody use a gun to do anything housing code violations the police came like like like you saw the insurgents.

That's the way the police was coming through our house. That's systemic racism within itself because they know that a lot of black people, a lot of brown people, they have to live in a house with multiple people because they can't afford to. Ain't nobody got red like that. I'm going to ask you this when it comes to

because we're talking about black people, right? But I know when the movement first started. Let me finish the story because he didn't get to the bombing and all that. So what happened? I was going to ask you this when it comes to, because we're talking about black people, right? But I know when the movement first started. Let me finish the story because he didn't get to the bombing and all that. So what happened after that? Because you didn't finish. So housing code violations, police come, 600 cops come. They shoot tear gas. They're trying to flush people out the house.

Y'all got to roll. And the people was like, this is our house. We ain't leaving. And they started shooting tear gas and water cannons from the fire department. And that led to like somebody started shooting. They said a thousand bullets. They said the police shot allegedly a thousand bullets into that house or ten thousand bullets into the house. Ten thousand rounds in 90 minutes. Oh, my God. 90 minutes. So. So, OK, there's two different confrontations we're talking about, though. This one that I'm talking about is the one where my parents got locked up.

This was in 1978. Shots fired. Cop gets shot. He dies. Of course, they blamed it on move. Judge said, well, we don't know who did it. They checked my mom for powder burns. Nah, she ain't shooting no gun.

Don't matter. She was with everybody else. They acted in concert. They're family. We're going to sentence them as a family, 100 years each. My mom was pregnant with me at the time. Yeah, you was born right in the jail cell five weeks later and they dropped a bomb on that so later so then move other move members start protesting about what happened they like yo you can't give nobody 100 years that's 900 years for something you can't the judge is saying we don't even know if you did it did it or

not but a cop died so you're going to be punished for it. So other movement members start protesting. And as the protest is going on, the city's response to that was, well, we're going to put an end to them. Mayor of Philadelphia, black mayor. Wilson Good. Wilson Good. We're going to put a permanent end to them. Flew a helicopter over our house, dropped a bomb on it.

Holy cow. Black mayor. Black mayor. And you guys really went hard for him to be mayor, right? Because you thought they would be changing? He was saying that he was going to, he felt like MOVE was innocent. He believed that the MOVE 9 were unjustly charged.

And so he felt like he could help. He said, if you make me the mayor, I'll help. I think his conscience kills him all the time about that because he's apologized a bunch of times, right? Yes, he has apologized. And you know, the thing about that is when they dropped the bomb 11 people died right um the founder john africa my great uncle my cousin frank um and nine my caretaker my mother's in prison you know i'm six years old i ain't got no mother i ain't got no father with me so my caretaker who was she was in the house too

ronda um and it took another 33 years to actually get the other people out of jail. Wow. Where were you when the bomb went off? I was four miles away, 4.4 miles away, watching the smoke in the air. Didn't know what was going on. I'm six, right? You know, how do you explain to a six-year-old your family's dead, right? So, you know, I learned.

There was one survivor of the bombing, Ramona Africa. And they arrested her, put her in jail for riot and arson. And, like, blamed her for all of this stuff. Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy, Angela Yee, Charlamagne Tha God. We are The Breakfast Club. We're still kicking it with Mike Africa Jr. Charlamagne?

How was your family misrepresented in the media? Oh, man. Let me. How was your family misrepresented in the media? Oh, man. Let me tell you something. For when I was growing up, I remember hearing these things. MOVE stands for Monkeys on Vines Everywhere. Wow. Yeah. MOVE doesn't mean anything.

It just means they like to move, right? That's actually kind of what it is. Movement is necessary, right? If you don't move, you stagnate, right? Absolutely they would say other things like move needs to take a bath. They don't bathe. Rizzo said all the move needs is a good haircut in a bath to be free. Wow. You know, disgusting. You know what I mean? And like he was very like outwardly racist against us. And the media really played a huge part in like besmirching our name and like misrepresenting who we are and just making us look like we were just a bunch of crazy people

who had no nothing to live for nothing to fight for except for mumia mumia was the only journal he wasn't the only one but he was like the main one that would like tell the truth exactly what happened as move said it and like as the police said it, too. Like, if you watch the documentary, 40 Years a Prisoner on HBO Max, you see, like, there's different parts of that story that show, like, where the police were saying things like, they took Delbert Africa to the hospital, but they should have taken him to the morgue, right? He said that. Mumia would show that he said that. And then he would, the police would get mad, like, why would you say that he said that and then he would the police were getting mad like why would you say that we said that and he's like well you said it you know what

i mean but back then it was different activism in 1970 something was very different than it is in 2021 you know what i mean especially with people that look different that act different that took a radical stance against police i That were actually out there. That's the other thing, too. Y'all were actually out there, outside on the front line. Yeah, it wasn't a Twitter war. You know what I mean? It was actually people out there at the police station

knocking on their door like, yo, we here to confront you about this situation. Just like the Panthers. You know what I mean? But if you talk about things and you're confronting industries for the wrong they doing they will drop a bomb on you even Mumia as a journalist

for him just reporting the truth you think that didn't make him a target right now today Mumia has been in prison for 39 years December 9th will be 40 years and there's so much evidence that proves that he's innocent there's another person who actually confessed to the murder.

He said it was a mob hit, right? He said it was a mob hit. And yet Mumia is still in prison. I had this thing. I told somebody, I said, if they ask me about Mumia, I want to say something about this situation, about Maureen Faulkner specifically, the slain cop's wife, ex-wife, or however it goes. You know, it's real unfortunate that this situation is what it is.

And I never really liked cops just because of what they did to our family. But I don't want to see a man die. I don't want to see a wife, a widow, right? Because that's what MOVE is about. MOVE is about life. It's about life. And, like, it's really messed up. I know what it looked like to see people's loved ones die,

to see them cry and complain and just go through this thing. And like, you know, but I just know that for Maureen Faulkner, killing Mumia, that's not going to bring her closure. Right. It ain't going to make her feel better. Check this out. Some of the children that were killed on May 13th, 1985, some of the children that were killed on may 13th 1985 some of the children that were killed were actually shot to death by the police as they were trying to escape the house

escape the burning building in the back alley sambor the police commissioner right his son years later his son was shot and killed in the back alley of his house. Right. Wow. And I watched move members who lost their children in that back alley. I watched them watch the news about what happened to their to this man and his son. And I watched how they processed that information. It didn't make them feel better. It didn't change their view. It didn't make them feel better. It didn't change their view.

It didn't help them. It didn't give them any closure. In fact, it made them angrier because they expected it to make them feel better. They hoped it would make them feel better. So I would say that the only thing that I've seen that gave them any pleasure, any closure,

was the love that they could put into their own families. And when you spoke to the mayor, right? You spoke to the mayor after everything, years later. Yeah. Which one, Rizzo or Good? Good. Did it make you feel better?

Now, he was the mayor that gave the okay to bomb that house. How was that conversation? I read somewhere you said you vomited after the meeting. But how was that meeting? And how was he during that meeting? Bro, that was the worst, that was the worst feeling

I ever had in my life. To have to sit across and talk to the mayor that bombed my family. That was the worst thing I ever had to do in my life. The hardest thing. How is that even legal? How are they able to do that? A lot of things ain't legal,

but legality don't really mean much when it comes to government because that's that's domestic terrorism where's the police get a bomb from anything is legal when they when they want to do it right like you know they just create this and make this stuff up and then you're trying to escape and they're shooting you in the back and so and so talking to the mayor... Did he apologize? He did. He did. Let me make something real clear. It wasn't easy to do that

and it wasn't something that I wanted to do. My family nominated me to do it because our people were in prison and they were dying in prison. And the mayor, Wilson Good, after the bombing, he had made a statement. He said he was sorry for what happened.

He wished he could change it. And he said that if there was anything that he could do he would try to help so there was a street sign he was being honored with his very own street sign wilson good way that's great and the public in philly just went off they went crazy and so he was like i'm sorry i wish i could i wish i could change it if there's anything that we could do. So my family nominated me to go talk to him. I went and talked to him. I said, there's something you can do. You can help me free my family.

And he did. He helped. He did. He helped. He wrote support letters. He offered them jobs if they needed it. How many of your family members got out? Once we put that in motion, my dad came home, and then everybody else else came home Question, two things, does the apology matter?

Did it matter for you? Did it matter to me? As far as your own healing On a personal level, no It matters publicly And it matters when you're dealing with politicians And it matters when you're trying to take things from one step to the other But personally, nah, it don't matter

My family's still gone Absolutely, so you got him to apologize So now one step to the other. But personally, nah, it don't matter. My family's still gone. Absolutely. So you got him to apologize. So now that he apologized, that's an admission of guilt. Yeah. Right? So now you can hold him accountable.

And you did. Could you? Yeah. Was that enough to get you closer to healing, I guess, getting the family released? Oh, yeah. For me personally, yeah. Because, see, bro, like all I want to do is like honor the legacy of my family right there's nothing more important to me than my family and to see my family come home even if they mad about something even if they don't like the fact that I went and talked to Wilson Good the fact that they home and

breathing free air and eating free food hey that's good enough for me so your father was in jail for 40 years right you grew up without your mom or or dad right what was it like when they came home it was euphoric i mean it was like um i mean i never did drugs before but for the people that talk about how good it make them feel that's how i felt i mean it felt like i was floating on cloud like cloud nine for real like i felt so good and and it lasts for so long like to be i remember one time my mom came home we we sat on this sat on this chest that I built. I built this little thing outside of my bathroom door.

And I sat on it one day. We sat on it together. We started talking around 7 o'clock p.m. And we didn't stop talking until the sun came up. Wow. Until it was time for me to go to work. Wow. You know what I mean?

A lot to catch up on. You know what I'm saying? And it just felt so good to be able to do that. When my mom called me on the phone, I don't have to limit our conversation, but I can if I need to, though. Wow, wow, wow. You know what I mean? I can say, Mom, I'll call you back.

I ain't never been able to say that before. Yeah, yeah. So it just felt real good to be able to see her eat some of the food she wanted to be able to eat, get medical attention that she needed, just to see her family members that she hadn't seen for a long time, ailing older aunts and uncles. Freedom is real important. All right, we have more with Mike Africa Jr.

When we come back, don't move. It's The Breakfast Club. Good morning. Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy, Angela Yee, Charlamagne Tha God. We are The Breakfast Club. We're still kicking it with Mike Africa Jr. Charlamagne? I feel like the city of Philadelphia, the state of Pennsylvania owes y'all some type of reparation.

Well, let me tell you about this, bro. It gets worse. After they dropped the bomb, they killed all the people. They didn't give the bodies back to the families. What? It appears that the University of Pennsylvania, the medical examiner's office of Philadelphia

stole their bodies. Wow. For what reason? Was there a reason? Research. Research, yeah. We just found out in April of 2021 that Penn Museum and Princeton had this research study, Losing Personhood, a quest in anthropology, whatever it's called,

and they taught that to over 5,000 students. And they were holding up bones from the people that were murdered. Wow. So it's like, yo, and it gets worse than that. Like, so just recently, the mother of one of those girls that we found out about, like she found out about this thought her daughter was buried right she found out about it a month later she died the city of Philadelphia and and and the Penn Museum and Princeton I

don't even know what I don't know I don't I just think about this like for myself as a black man from Philly. Right. If I went to somebody grave and just took their bodies and was like posting it up. Yo, yo, yo, Charlemagne, we're going to do this thing. Right. Yo, give me five. Get your boys together.

We're going to show you these bones that I got from the Jewish people. Right. And we're going, you know, I'm saying and just bring your peoples. Right. And pay me. And I'm going to show you these bones. They stay some serious specimens right here. 5,000 people.

And then, you know what they said when we confronted them on it? Oh, I'm sorry. I didn't know I couldn't do that. If I had known you wanted them back, I would have gave them to you. We've been so used to y'all being our property and us having license over y'all bodies all of these years. We didn't think it would be different when you died. Like, what's the problem?

You know, and then taking pictures with them in front of, like, a wall of skulls that they stole from African graves. I was on Mark Lamont Hill's show the other day, right? Two tomorrow. And I was like, yo, this is how they turn peaceful people into violent people. Absolutely. Because it's like what are you supposed to do if i did that to one of those people down there what would they do to me if i did one of them cops that shot one of my moose brothers and sisters if i went down there

they crib and was like yo you coming with me kill you and then you know burn you up and then walk around with your body in the back of my in the back of my pocket and like and drive it around in my car like and the irony is we're the ones with your body in the back of my pocket and drive it around in my car. And the irony is we're the ones that get labeled with the stereotype of being violent. Violent, gross, crazy. Everything that they said we were is exactly what they are. They said we have little, they value our lives. And then you can say Black Lives Matter and they get mad about saying that.

Oh, no, police lives matter. Right, blue lives matter. Blue lives matter, no. Police lives matter. Right. Blue lives matter. Blue lives matter, yeah. So you think the residents of that neighborhood or the families will ever be compensated? No. Never. Nah, man. Like, them people... Are y'all fighting for that? I'm fighting

for justice for all. Okay. Like, for real, I'm on this campaign. Justice for move. And within that, the Osage neighbors, the ones that are still alive because most of them are gone now. I mean, that was 36 years ago and a lot of them were older people then. And so I'm fighting for justice.

That's my job, that's my campaign. And there was no repercussion for the cops or for the judge or for the mayor or nothing? They got granted immunity. Right. They were granted qualified immunity and the judge said, there was a ruling that, okay, we're going to make them pay, the ruling that okay we're gonna make them pay the

jury said we're gonna make them pay a dollar a week for their crime which is disrespectful that's very disrespectful but the judge took that away he said nah we ain't even doing that immunity and they did forensics and saw that the bullets came from the outside of the house because at first they were trying to say somebody was shooting from inside the house at the cops but the truth is they determined yeah and and that's the thing is like so what happens so one of the one of my John's for justice I say John I'm from Philly we know we know I say okay I did radio in Philly for like ten eight months so one of my dogs is is if you've been there eight months.

So one of my John's is accountability. Like if we talk about change, what happened in Tulsa 100 years ago? And I'm people, they never got no accountability. There's got to be accountability. Absolutely. How you going to just, what would make them stop doing these things if there was no accountability? They haven't stopped. That's the crazy part.

They haven't stopped. They ain't going to stop unless somebody stop them. And think about how people could be thriving today if they were able to access what was theirs and their family's generation. Exactly. You know what I mean? My dad is so smart. Villanova graduate from prison.

You know what I mean? We've lost so much that they've taken from us. They just hate everything about us because they ain't us I want to ask you about that why do you think the same country America that tells us pull ourselves up by our boot scraps attacks us and takes our boots whenever we do just that man because we I'm telling you man they got they got complexes about us they mad they mad because they ain't got what we got. You know what I mean?

And then the people, like, you know, I saw a flag flying the other day. It said, give me liberty or give me death. And I looked at that, John, and I said, man, there couldn't have been no black person that wrote that. You know what I mean? Of course. Ain't going to be no Spanish person that say that. Not in this country.

You say something like that that they will oblige you that's right but what we do have we got so much we got creativity we got love we got a love the mothers in the black community that love their kids when you see that

they just got a problem with us cause we us but that's their problem Like, you know, like, they just got a problem with us because we us. You know, but that. That's their problem. That's right. What does justice look like for you? I think justice for me looked like do unto others as you would have them do unto you.

Well, you can never expect a white man to do that. You can't expect a white man. Nah, you can't expect a white man. Nah, you can't. But you know what? With people understanding the importance of these situations, and then white people are starting to get affected by this stuff too. That's right. These things that we was complaining about as black people and as minority people, white people are starting to complain about them.

Yeah, because they're doing the same thing to poor white people in a lot of a lot of cases and and those poor white people have connections and then and then and then white women be loving black men and then vice versa so like they be integrating and connecting so there's like our problem is becoming their problem too but i'm saying do one to others if you would have them do unto you i think what justice looked like to me is if i did that to one of them, they should get the same treatment that they would give me. Not in this caste system that America's developed. And if they can't, then what

they do, they give reparations, they teach about it. They're still talking about Christmas addicts. They're still talking about Paul Revere. And the Redcoats are coming. Yeah, okay. Well, I'm saying the Redcoats are coming. Like, yeah, okay. Well, I'm saying the Redcoats is coming. Like, the same way that they wanted freedom

from their oppressor, we want freedom. And if you can't get it done, we want to fight for it. We appreciate you for joining us and sharing your story. And how do people reach you? I'm on Instagram at MikeAfricaJr, Twitter, Facebook.

And that's where I'm at. And also, you can, same thing, www.MikeAfricaJr.com. All right. Is I'm at. And also, you can, same thing, www.mikeafricajr.com. All right. Is this about to be a movie, too? I feel... Yo, the last three calls I got were Oscar-winning film directors.

Somebody I know, too, or...? Probably. Okay. I mean, it's their household names. They're not even, like, you know what I mean? Right. They household names.

Probably, for sure. You know? Yeah. But it matters so much who also works with you to tell the story. Look, I got three rules. The policy of the organization that I'm bringing hard for anybody is, number one, we speak for ourselves. Number two, if you want to tell our story, we will steward that project. Number three, if you don't want to do either one of the one and two,

we protest against it. That's right. Because we speak for ourselves. We hear. This is not 100 years two, we protesting. That's right. We speak for ourselves. We hear we're not. This is not. This is not 100 years later where we ain't here no more. We're right here. And if you just want to try to go over our head.

Nah, nah. We got to speak for ourselves because they done did too much damage to our reputation. Yeah, I wouldn't do it with any production company that's not black or from Philly. I definitely want to do it with somebody from Philly. But like the producer that did 40 Years of Prisoner, he from Philly, I definitely want to do it with somebody from Philly, but the producer that did 40 Years of Prison, he's from Philly, Tommy Oliver. So we definitely want somebody that recognizes us as us

and who we are, so that's definitely important. So we'll see how it goes. Let's put that out in the atmosphere. Let's put that out there. That's Mike Africa Jr. It's The Breakfast Club. Good morning. The Breakfast Club. Your mornings will never be the same. Hey, it's Angela Yee.

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It's a best-of show, but, you know, donkey of the day, I remember 10 years ago when I started this segment, I said that I hope that one day, you know, it'll grow to be a legendary, you know, radio segment. It's still not up for me to say that but we've had some pretty good ones okay they say this one is a classic here you go it's time for donkey of the day i'm a democrat so being donkey of the day is a little bit of a mixed question so like a donkey keyhole okay now i've been called a lot of my 23 years that donkey of the day is a new one

well okay let me blow my nose uh okay listen donkey of the day goes to self-love ambassador entrepreneur social media relationship expert, Arthur. He's wrote books like Hail Together Without Hurting Each Other. He wrote another book called Single Mothers Are For Grown Men Only. And he even wrote a book called A Cheating Man's Heart, a fiction novel. I put fiction novel in air quotes because based on all these new developments, it's safe to say Derek Jackson's book, A Cheating Man's Heart, was probably based on a true story. Now, Derek has built a following, basically calling men out on their behavior, holding men accountable.

I'm not mad at that. He's done it to me. He's done it to Little Duval. He's done it to Gilly the King. He's done it to Isaac Hayes III. This is his thing, holding men accountable. And I'm fine with that. I had him on my podcast, Brilliant Idiots, a few years ago.

And on that podcast, we promised to hold each other accountable. Well, Derrick Jackson, it's your turn to be held accountable. Okay, let's just get right to it. Derrick Jackson is full of shit. Okay. The what? I can't curse, and you know that. You say, oh, what?

Yes, he's full of that. Okay? He's a liar, a textbook narcissist and manipulator who gets what he wants at the expense of other people's well-being. This is a guy who will get online and say this about men who have cheated. I have no sympathy for a man who finds it to be difficult to be faithful after being in a promiscuous lifestyle. And neither should you. Nobody told you to be promiscuous before the relationship. And nobody made you be monogamous with just her.

You don't want her? Let another man have her. Simple. And more times, I would say nine times out of ten, when a dude gets caught cheating, that wasn't his very, very first time cheating. That was his only time getting caught. I agree with you, Derek. Okay?

And guess what? Derek Jackson himself is a cheater. Oh, he just got exposed by a woman named Candace. I can't pronounce her last name. But Derek Jackson, who is a married man, bought this woman to Atlanta to stay in his house. He shares with his wife and kids. The woman, Candace, who Derek was cheating with, actually took pictures of her laying in the bed. He shared with his wife in their Atlanta home. Derek Jackson, who spells his last name J-A-X-N. Why? I don't know. That

bothers me. Jackson may be a slave name, but when it comes to black people, it's one of the greatest last names you can ever have. Why would you hack that? I mean, when you're talking Jackson, you're talking Samuel L., Janet, Jesse Boe, Randy Mahalia, and of course, Michael. But actually, I'm glad you don't spell your last name Jackson because you don't deserve to be in that Jackson power ranking. OK, if you were, you would be at the bottom right under Andrew. You know, Andrew Jackson, seventh president of the United States, slave master, ethnic cleanser, tyrant. If you actually spelled your last name Jackson correctly, you would be at the bottom of the list near him because of the level of evil that you display. Yes, my brother. See what we're going to do here today is stop the shenanigans.

OK, see, my father always told me that when you lie, you're not lying to nobody but yourself. And I have watched you since this story broke. Just lie and attempt to continue to manipulate the public. I mean, that's what you do. You manipulate people. You get online and have these bad faith arguments which is also textbook narcissism meaning you don't care about i even try to understand the people that you speak about you said it yourself i don't have no sympathy for a man who cheats not only do you not care or attempt to understand the people you talking

about to have any sympathy or empathy. All right. You are dedicated to deliberately misunderstanding and mischaracterizing others to make yourself look good. You like to paint other men as being dishonest and deceptive and morally corrupt. Why? Because you're a narcissist and that's what narcissists do. Project their BS onto other people. The reason you love to paint men as dishonest, deceptive, and morally corrupt is because that's what you are. See, Derek, I waited to give you donkey because I wanted to see how you would react to all of this, and you reacted by doing what you've been doing all this time, and that's lying. See, I saw the first video you posted when you first addressed the allegations.

You said that you and your wife were separated during that time, and that you and Candace have had a sexual relationship without actually having sex. Listen, I'm in screw it mode, eff it mode. I'm hitting up old chicks. I really don't care at this point. One of those people was a girl named Candace. Now, here's the thing. So me and Candace have had a sexual relationship without actually having sex.acies nonsense word salad lies denying changing definitions this is textbook narcissism people lying about what happened denial delusion trying to confuse us to make us doubt the reality of this reality of the situation see narcissists are often ill-equipped to have mature discussions or resolve conflicts but in their mind

they are experts at it okay he don't even really understand what he's saying but in his mind he's being rational reasonable and correct but the reality is this nigga just lying that's why what he's saying don't make no sense okay we had a sexual relationship but didn't have sex that's why it's just an incoherent rant with no logic because it's a lie then hours later hours later derrick jackson came back online with his wife to admit that he did cheat and that he was unfaithful to his wife. Listen to this guy. The truth is that Derrick Jackson was involved with other women outside the marriage. And by involved, I want to be clear.

I'm not talking about just casually kicking it, maybe a lunch or something like that. I'm talking about as serious as sex. First name, nigga. Last name, please. Derrick, if nobody else has told you what you did to your wife was wrong all right she had nothing to do with this she wasn't with you when you was out here cheating with these women so she shouldn't be with you when you're doing damage control this story has nothing to do with her nothing and what's sad is you are more concerned about saving your business

than you are about saving your marriage you are more concerned about what we think of you than you are about what your wife thinks of you king if you're going to use your wife as a human shield, like Nino Brown used that kid as a human shield in New Jack City, at least get her glammed up. Okay. You got her up there looking like she forgot it was a second part to the buster challenge. I was waiting for her to drop and come up fresh, but that never happened. And guess what? You don't care. You didn't care about the backlash she could receive you be on social media all the time you know how cruel people are not only does your wife have to heal from your infidelity now she has to heal from the bullying that she is currently receiving online but a narcissist like you don't give a damn because

your goal as a narcissist is to dominate and be perceived as right at all costs. Do you know the complex your wife is going to have now? It's impossible to not be impacted by what people say about you online. Ain't enough God and Jesus in the world. You can put on the whole armor of God and God will protect you, but you still going to feed into what people are saying. And you could have protected your queen from all that because she had nothing to do with it this is about you and your behavior if she forgives you great but that don't mean drag her out and have her on your arm looking like a damn puppet off cranky acres and you the chief manipulator controlling all her movements but that's what narcissists do they deflect attack project that's why he had his wife

there to deflect then he started talking about John Gray because Shade Room asked him a question. You should have just ignored that. But you can't because narcissists love to shift attention from what they are saying and doing. This brother, Derek Jackson, went so far as to deflect and blame Jesus. Listen, at that point, I had to be for God. I gave my life to Christ and my whole life fell apart. My marriage fell apart. At this point, I'm not seeing my kids. And I really honestly just went to a place of effort. It's the audacity for me. I've never heard a person say I gave my life to God and now my life

is left up. That's not how that works. Derek, God told me to tell you, stop lying, nigga. Okay, God, Jesus, the Holy Ghost, they don't got nothing to do with your ways. In fact, they told me to remind you that this is nothing but the devil. That's who should be getting the blame here, the devil. And the devil's name is Derrick Jackson. You're the liar. You're the manipulator. You're the narcissist.

Giving your life to Christ didn't F your life up. You F'd your life up because you living a lie. And you had the nerve to blame God. You did the same thing to Jesus that you did to your wife. Bought Jesus into it for no reason But the reason you do this is because you never truly have to take responsibility for their toxic behavior That's what narcissists do narcissists do things like this The only reason he bought Jesus up is because he never truly wants to take responsibility for his bad behavior Derek I decided to give you donkey today after what I heard you say last night because it confirmed for me what I already knew.

You are a textbook narcissist. Like, you need to be studied. See, gaslighters, narcissists love to speak in the third person. Why? Because it distances them from their actions. Listen to this dude yesterday sitting in the car. Listen. I hope he understands that all the accountability in the world is not going to rebuild broken

trust. Not on a personal level and even with the public that he's addressing like even his most loyal supporters at this point will probably have a raised eyebrow from this point forward whenever he wants to condemn another man for something like this and rightfully so so hopefully he understands that nonetheless i know some people will see this type of video even though he's come forward and he's been completely honest um some people are just going to close the book on d i'm more so on the side of his wife and just basically letting this be a new chapter of how i see him because i do believe that his content over the years has helped a tremendous

amount of people you know he tells the truth he speaks facts and quite honestly and be real with y'all i've needed several new chapters in my own life when gaslighters narcissists feel that not enough people are praising them they praise praise themselves. Speaking in third person is a reassurance to the gaslighter narcissist that he is worthy of adoration. Derek, it's just simply time for you to shut the F up forever. Take a break. I know last year with COVID, money probably was tight because you weren't getting booked for speaking engagements to show up to lie to people. And I know you see your business crumbling before your eyes, but King, just go get help. You need to do some real soul searching. You need to do some real therapy and you need to fix what's wrong with you don't

get online today trying to project deflect and attack anyone else prove to us that you are not a narcissist by shutting the hell up i challenge you to disable all your social media and go away for so much vanish i know as a narcissist you believe that you can talk your way out of this situation but no because see if you don't stop now i i know where you're gonna go from here what's gonna happen is instead of really taking responsibility for your actions you're gonna continue to deflect and start attacking other people and that's when it's gonna get bad for you because right now it's just candace well man oh man there's so many women that are ready to talk about how you tried to highlight them and if you don't stop while you're ahead it's gonna get worse and i know it may feel like

you can't get worse but derrick it absolutely can going to get worse. And I know it may feel like it can't get worse, but Derek, it absolutely can. Just go away for a while. I know you got an extremely fragile ego and shaky self-esteem. You're going to be online looking for the handful of people who are still stupid enough to support you. You're going to be reposting them, retweeting them to receive more false validation, looking for folks to side with you and tell them that you are right and good and blah, blah, blah. Well, you can prop your wife up. You can deflect and attack others, blame others others act like you're happily married now and continue to use this situation

to promote that book of lies you have on your website with you and your wife on the cover but since you the narcissist like to speak in third person let's end this with derrick jackson giving a piece of advice to derrick jackson listen public service announcement marriage doesn't make a man marriage material see through the media and sometimes firsthand experience marriage has been marketed as what it could and really should be, a long-lasting, beautiful union. But it's not a magic trick that wipes away a dude's ain't ways forever. You can go get the prettiest ribbon you can find and put it on a turd.

It's still going to be a piece of s***. I agree, Derek. You can put a ribbon on a piece of s***, and it's still a piece of s***, okay? And if you proved anything to us this week, it's that you, sir, are a piece of s***. Can you change that? Sure. We all grow. But you have to make a commitment to yourself and not this idea of yourself that you have created online. Please let Remy Ma give Derek Jackson the biggest hee-haw.

Hee-haw! Hee-haw! You stupid mother... Are you dumb? All right. Mm-hmm. Woo! Well said. Well said. All right. thank you for that donkey today now don't go anywhere you're listening to the best of the breakfast club the breakfast club morning everybody it's dj envy angela yee charlamagne the guy we are the breakfast club we got a special guest in the building our guy our friend joe coy

let's go you got an autobiography i'll call mixed plate chronicles of an all-american combo what does that mean joe uh the title mixed plate yes you know uh hawaii is one of my favorite places to go they have a they have a dish if you ever ever been to Hawaii, called mixed plate. And when you look at that dish, it has all these amazing items on there. It's got Korean barbecue, Japanese, you know, teppanyaki. It's got everything on there. It's got tempura. It's got spam.

It's got mac salad. It's got everything on it. Individually, all that stuff is delicious, but you put it all on one plate, it's just beautiful. And that's how I i look at uh my life here and i just look at it as just like we all if we could just all mix together on one plate will be beautiful interesting and you have recipes in the book as well with all the different chapters i had to i had to i had to put it on there i gotta i gotta i gotta be an ambassador for our food angela i was, I should try this chicken.

What is it, adobo? Chicken adobo. I had chicken adobo. Where did you have it? I think I had it at Nicole's restaurant. What's Nicole's restaurant? Jeepney. Jeepney.

Yeah, I had chicken adobo. I had chicken adobo. It's amazing. You know what I love, Charlamagne? What? Your beard looks like Envy's old beard before he painted it. Because mine is real. You know what I'm saying?

I let my grades come in. I'm not hiding them like Envy is. I don't know what y'all talking about. Shout out to DJ Khaled. Shout out to Rick Ross. Shout out to Diddy. Shout out to Kevin Hart. I don't know what y'all talking about.

Shout out to Craig. Why are you trying to bring everybody down with you? I don't know. Just because you do it. I'm just shouting my people out. You did kind of hate on some other people by doing that. I'm just shouting them out. I'm just shouting them out.

You should have shouted out Sharpie, Cram. That's like if you get cheated and you shout out all the other cheaters. You should have shouted out JFM. What the hell out JFM. JFM. What the hell is JFM? Just for men. Exactly.

He keeps saying the beard is real, but the color is not. Listen. I don't know what y'all talking about. Joe, does your book focus more on your background and upbringing or the journey once you made it into comedy? I wanted to tell people just how hard it was for me to make it in this entertainment business. And the struggle it was just being a mixed kid growing up. We talk about systemic racism now, and I really didn't even know what that was, Charlemagne,

until this is all in light now. But I didn't know I was actually a part of it until I started reading my book back in the studio. And I was like, God damn, I was part of this. I was part of this type of systemic racism, being put in certain groups or not being able to do certain shows because of what I was talking about or what I look like or, you know what I mean? It was just, I didn't really know it until I started writing the book. And I was like, wow, just how my mom went through her struggles, you know, in the 80s, you know, being an Asian woman raising these kids by herself in America and just dealing with the racism that she had to face. Were you ever able to assimilate, Joe, a little bit? Did anybody ever mistake you for just a white guy? No, no, no, no no they always looked at me weird like i had the hazel eyes like they're light but then but but the the roundness wasn't there they always noticed

they were like what are you yeah what is that what is this was it very difficult to write this book was it was it difficult going back on some of the feelings and some of the things that you had to think about how difficult yeah uh the most difficult part was writing about my brother. And, you know, it was hard for me to talk about my brother, but I will say this, and I told Charlamagne this before, that when you brought up mental health and you put it out there and make people accept it, because a lot of people that have to deal with mental issues,

mental health issues, and I hate saying this publicly, you're embarrassed, you know what I mean? Especially when you grow up with a brother that has schizophrenia and the trauma that it put our family through. And I'm not saying my brother's a bad guy. He had mental health issues, and it was very strenuous in our family, and it was a hard time. But I also went through this time where I didn't want to talk about it.

Like, I would always go, oh, do you have any siblings? I'd always say, oh, I got two sisters, but I would never say my brother because I knew once they asked me about my brother, it would go into this whole other world of like, oh, where is he? And I got to tell him that he's in the hospital, and then I got to talk about his mental health issues. Then I felt like I'm the only one. And it just sucked.

So being able to, you know, especially like people like you, Charlamagne, it's just like how now people are open about mental health. And you don't feel alone anymore. So like I know how important therapy is now. It is very important. And that therapy today yeah man just yo i'm telling you charlotte when i read this in the studio i had to do the audio version that was the best therapy session of my life man just reading the the chapter on my

brother alone i remember i cried at the end i remember i had to take a break and i just remember this this weight being lifted like yo it's out wow it's finally out you know what i mean i i i'm everyone knows now and and i love it and and and by the way i love my brother it's this is no way uh i'm not trying to say anything bad my brother's a he's one of the funniest guys in the family it's just he's dealing with you know mental health issues and and we're not alone i just want everyone to. And we're not alone. I just want everyone to know that you're not alone. Word.

And that's difficult. You were very honest about that because I'm sure there were times you felt like your life could have been in danger. Your mom's life could have been in danger. So many times. Oh, man, we had so many cops at the house. You know, it was always physical. There was always jail time for my brother, you know, always in and out of hospitals. So yeah, it was, it was traumatizing, man, as a kid and, you know, I didn't like talking about it. I really didn't. You know, how do you feel about that?

Cause you would be the perfect person to ask, you know, let's say something happens with your brother that, that is violent and you said he had to go to jail. Is that necessarily right? Because mentally he wasn't right. So he might not have known what he was doing but do you still put somebody like that in jail or do you say no we understand he wasn't in his right mind at the time let's continue to give him help and not do jail because he doesn't know what he did wrong so is jail really what he should be sent to i think

jail is you know the initial you know i mean he did, you know, he would be physical with people. He would hurt people, you know what I mean? And they don't know. They're just, they're arresting somebody. But immediately he always gets into the, you know, immediately he goes right back into the system. He gets, he stays in the hospital and, you know, he gets the medicine that he needs and the therapy that he needs.

But it's a struggle with my brother. It's hard, man. You know, my brother just called me three days ago. It was his birthday. And you get a glimpse. You get a small glimpse, man. The window opens and there's Robert. And you just love it and you enjoy it.

And then, boom, the window closes. And that's the hard pill to swallow. That's the part you're just like, f***, man, you know? So that's, it felt good to be able to talk about that in the book. Word. All right, we got more with comedian Joe Coy. When we come back, don't move.

It's The Breakfast Club. Good morning. Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy, Angela Yee, Charlamagne Tha Guy. We are The Breakfast Club. We're still kicking it with comedian Joe Coy. Yee. Ilamagne Tha Guy. We are The Breakfast Club. We're still kicking it with comedian Joe Coy. Yee. I had texted Joe Coy also when I was reading it just to tell him that I thought the book was excellent.

Just because it's not just about jokes and about being funny. But it really is a hard path that you had to go through to even get to where you are today. It took you like 15 years. Yeah. Pretty much. It took me 15 years just to get on The Tonight Show and just always dealing with like, oh, I don't think they'll get it. You know, you might want to not talk about that. It's just like stuff like that was just kind of like

whack. You know what I mean? But I would listen to it because it was just like, all right, well, this is this is normal right i gotta adjust i gotta i gotta adapt to whatever it is to get me in but it just sucked man it feels to me joe like when you when you started i'm sorry go ahead no i was just like you know no one really knows the struggle of being a half white half asian kid being raised by a filipino mom dad you know you know dad moved out and now here's my mom that just got to this country and she's dealing with racism all around her. But she's just like, even though she's American,

she feels like a visitor. So she doesn't want to approach anybody when they're doing something messed up. You know what I mean? And here I am a little kid seeing my mom go through that. It's just like, it's f***ed up. I didn't like, there's this one story I wrote about my mom when we went upstairs to go claim some prize that we won at the mall. And, uh, and this kid turned around and pulled his eyes back

on my mom. And I just remember like, like when I wrote about it, just, I just, I couldn't believe how much trauma that caused me because I knew it by detail. You know what I mean? And I remember my mom putting her hand on my head, just going, he doesn't know Joseph. He's just being funny. Like that's just her accepting the fact that this is normal. You know what I mean? And she's, and she's scared to say anything because in her mind, she's a visitor. You know what I mean? So it's just, oh, he doesn't know Joe.

He's just being funny, but like, no, that's up, you know? And, and, and she doesn't need to go through that. And now like you need to have a voice and you need to be able to say something and i'm glad we're in a time uh that we're in right now where people are vocal and and and we have platforms that'll support that now we don't have to wait till in six o'clock evening news and hope to god that they talk about something that happened locally in seattle to let the world know that if that something happens in Seattle, everyone's going to know about it. We're going to Instagram. We're

going to Facebook. We're going to, we're going to let everybody know what happened. And I'm glad that because it's like, as a kid growing up, you would see all these jokes all the time. Like whether it was jokes around Asian people or jokes around Caribbean people or black people or Jewish people. And when kids made jokes, nine times out of 10, they got it from their parents or family members. But you don't realize how much it can hurt somebody. And so you get old and you start realizing that it's good that we're having these conversations now. So hopefully parents will teach their kids a lot different than we were taught or that we've seen in our day. Yeah, exactly. And now we have that voice where we're like, no,

you don't have to go through that. You know, I was doing, I did this documentary for a guy, Tori, right. And we were talking about fat Tuesdays or at the comedy store. And, and that was one of the rooms that, that accepted me right away. But like, if you really look at the show, the reason why it was on a Tuesday night, like, does anyone really understand why the all-black show was on a Tuesday night? It's because it's the only night no one wants to go to a club.

It's the night that no one wants to pay for a ticket. You got to beg for someone to come do a free show. But here's the hottest ticket in town. You know what I mean? And it was at the at the store it's like why were those shows okay you know i mean why why do we have to give them a theme oh the black knight well let's give it a hip-hop name you know and no disrespect guy guy did what he had to do because that was the norm he was just accepting the fact that it was a night like thank you for giving me this night i'm gonna blow it up and it's to this day it's still like legend no one put out as many uh stars as fat tuesdays check look at the receipts you know what i mean look at it look who came out of fat tuesdays from

chris tucker all the way to to everybody i can't even name them all kevin hart to everybody came out of that show you know what i mean but is it fair for comedians to have to you know i i grew up where comedy was comedy i mean i've heard yeah comedians go at asian people i heard comedians go at black people i heard comedians go at caribbean anything but you know as a comic should you have to watch what you say or is it all in the vein of is just comedy i think you need to just be responsible with what you say, right? You gotta understand, like, yeah, there are people that'll be offended and hurt, and yeah, you

do have the right to change the channel, but I also think, as a comic, you're also responsible. It's like, you know when you're being hurtful. You know, you know, you know when it's... Do you know? It's not even... I think so. I believe so. You know what I mean do you know it's not even i i think so i i believe so you know what i mean i you know the difference when you hear something you're like yo man that ain't even coming from

funny but think about it right think about like an old show like in living color mike tyson ran down on keenan irwin because he didn't like the way keenan irons was portraying him but that was hilarious it was funny yeah it was so funny. But that was also the norm back then. It was a shit talk like that back then because, you know, society accepted it. And then, of course, black people were only being a certain way because they knew that was the way to get into these doors that were, like, closed. You know what I mean? That wouldn't let us. They were like, oh, we got to act a certain way? OK, well, then we'll joke around about this,

because you, the people with power, are laughing at it. Does that make sense? It's kind of like Asians. It's like, dude, like, we had to do what it was to make you happy to let us in. And that sucks. And I was a victim of that. I had to do that.

I was going to ask you that, because I've been watching you for so long, Joe, like, you know, since Chelsea. But when you started leaning, like, really, like, just embracing the Filipino aspect of your life, it seemed like that's when you took off to me. Yeah, exactly. And that's what I always wanted to talk about. But, you know, when you go back, you had to figure out how to get in

because no one wants to hear about your Asian, your Filipino mom. You know what I mean? I always got the same note. You know, they were like, oh, I don't think middle America will get that. And I'm like, what the are you guys talking about? My mom is just a mom. She just happens to be Filipino, but she's still doing mom. Right. I feel like there's certain things that are universal. Since you were talking about this story about getting the prize, right? And she made you guys fill out like a raffle ticket, like all these raffle tickets to try to win this TV. I feel like my parents would have made us do that too.

Yeah. To try to win a TV. What about the Tupperware joke? Like it's just, you know, my mom using coolant containers for Tupperware. Like, why is middle America not going to get it? Everyone uses that kind of Tupperware. You know what I mean? It's just like, I didn't understand why I always get those notes.

Why they always fell on. By the way, can I ask you guys a quick question? No. Why does middle America depend on what the way can i ask you guys a quick question no why does middle america depend on what the world is listening to i'm so sick of that excuse where they go i don't think middle america will get it well you know what the world gets it like it's do people still say that now or what yeah they still say that they still say that i'm like yo i'm so sick of that excuse yeah i was just talking about that the other day. I forgot what I was talking about, but I was like,

oh, you know what I was talking about? I was speaking about how a few years ago, maybe like four years ago, somebody was like, Michael B. Jordan wasn't famous enough to be on SNL, right? This is what one of the SNL execs said. But it's because of that. It's because middle America didn't know who Michael B. Jordan was. That makes no sense to me. Hey, look, I love my fans in Ohio. But it's because of that. It's because middle America didn't know who Michael B. Jordan was at the time.

That makes no sense to me. Hey, look, I love my fans in Ohio. I'm just saying, who are these executives that keep falling on middle America as the excuse? It's bullshit. I never got that. And I just recently got that. I'm not going to say who, but it was like five years ago. It was the same thing.

I don't think they'll get it. Middle America is not gonna get i'm like what middle america what are you talking about you're right i just i just sold out two forums i just sold out dubai i just sold out philippines i just sold out new york what are you talking about like the world gets it yeah i'm just saying the world gets it. Yeah. I'm just saying, the world gets it. Why the f*** are we waiting on Omaha? Don't move. We got more with Joe Coy when we come back. It's The Breakfast Club.

Good morning. The Breakfast Club. Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy, Angela Yee, Charlamagne Tha Guy. We are The Breakfast Club. We're still kicking it with comedian Joe Coy. Yee. The things that you passed on are just as important

as the things that you agreed to do. Because there are some times in life there might be a great opportunity. And you have to really think about it and say, okay, maybe I shouldn't do this right now at this point in my career. It actually might be more hurtful than helpful. So can you talk about that a little bit?

Are you talking about Chelsea or? I mean, not just Chelsea, but. Well, I wrote about Chelsea when I passed on her sidekick. You know what I mean? And I was working at Nordstrom Racks selling shoes. She wanted you to be chewy? Basically, I was supposed to be her sidekick. And we went all the way through, you know what I mean?

Until like, you know, just moments before. And I went all the way through, you know what I mean? Until like, you know, just moments before. And I gave her that call. This is why I love Chelsea, man. She's amazing. I should have recorded the phone call. But I just told her, I was like, I don't want to be, I don't want to do that. I want to be known for me. Like, I don't want to do a show where I'm the sidekick or that I want to be Joe Coy. But I love your show, but I just, I feel like I need to pursue this. And man, I'm telling you, she cursed me. I wish she was

on the phone right now. I thought it was a positive thing. Like, no, do your thing. She cursed you out. I'll tell you. You can bleep everything out. Go ahead. She was like, go ahead. She was like, you're never going to get anywhere, Joe. Keep listening to these agents. You don't know a good thing when it hits you in the ass.

Like, she was laying into me. Good luck. This show's going to be a hit. You go yourself. No, no, no, no, no. Chelsea, I'm sorry. No, no, no, no, no. No, no. Worst decision ever.

Watch what happens, Joe. Worst decision. And then just hangs up on me. You could have been my little nugget, you face. But you decided you didn't want to be my little nugget. Yeah. But it says about her that she still let you f*** face. But you decided you didn't want to be my little nugget. Yeah. But it says about her that she still let you be a regular.

Yeah, unbelievable. Unbelievable. That's why she's the best. She knew. She knew what that panel wanted. She knew what that panel was all about. She knew that she had to, like, that panel was a unit. You know what I mean? And she needed all the pieces.

Yeah, Chelsea was the face and the voice. And you know what i mean and she needed all the pieces yes chelsea was the face and the voice and you know what i mean but she also knew that it took the three other people on that panel for that show to just blow up and that's why she's amazing because she recognized that she's amazing did y'all by the way oh by the way by the way she was 100 right when she hung up the phone because the show took off and i was working at nordstrom rack and my ex-wife at the time picked me up at Nordstrom Rack. And as we're driving home, she goes, do you know Chelsea Handler? And I go, why? She's like, her show's hysterical.

And I was just like, f*** me. Yo, but I don't remember. When I think of Chelsea Handler's show, I think of you. I think of you, Chewy, Brad, and Lonnie Love. I'm dead serious. Those are the four people I think about on the panel all the time. Oh, man, I love you, man. That show is amazing.

And that's another thing. She was like the modern-day Johnny Carson. You remember the old rumor? Well, not a rumor. It was a real thing. When Johnny Carson liked you, he called you over to the couch, and if he called you to the couch, you made it. You're going to make it.

That's what Chelsea was. If you killed on to the couch you made it you're gonna make it that's what chelsea was if you if you killed on that panel you you made it and here's another thing about chelsea a little inside if you sucked on that panel she would literally tell the booking guy in front of everybody like she'd whisper but basically be like it's the last time where who did that time. Swear! Who you remember that happened to? She did it all the f***ing time, man. Chelsea would do it all the time. Swear. Every time there was someone new on

the panel, I would just like, it would always be after the first break. And right when we went to commercial, she'd just call them over and be like, yeah, let's go ahead and end that one. No more. Wow. This is your weekend right because you got a you got a movie that you're supposed to be producing called east to sunday yeah can you believe it are you uh you're are you producing it are you i know you're gonna be in it but you

want to produce it too yeah i'm producer uh steven you know steven spielberg amblin never heard of dan lynn yeah he's he's small independent director yeah And then, of course, Dan Lin over at Rideback. Those are the guys. But yeah, man, Steven, it's amazing. I can't believe what's happening. It's crazy, man. Coming in hot, by the way. You said what?

Coming in hot. Coming in hot. My Netflix special, the second one. That's the one Steven watched and called me in and asked for a movie idea, and I pitched Easter Sunday, and he fell in love with it. Wow. So you already had the idea in your mind and everything. Yeah, I already had the movie already sold to Dan Lynn.

Dan already was in on it, and it wasn't really moving. And then when Steve said he wanted to know anything, and I just pitched the same movie to him, and he was like, let's go. Why Easter Sunday? What is it about Easter Sunday? That's a huge holiday for, you know, Filipinos. Really? That's our day.

Oh, man. Are you kidding me? That's our day. That's the day of talent shows. That's the day of food. That's the day of fights. Why? That's the day of everything.

I don't know. Filipinos just, they love Easter Sunday, man. That's our day. So I want the show. Nothing to do with Jesus. Jesus is a close second. Like, yeah. Like, we'll get to him after the adobo, but he's in the room.

What I told y'all, I said, Jesus headlines, no holidays, Joe. There's not one holiday that Jesus is sending around that he headlines. Not Easter, not Christmas. Even when you think of Easter, you think of that goddamn bunny. Yeah, the bunny. That lays eggs, which is not even possible. Christmas is Santa Claus, the Grinch, Frosty the Snowman, Rudolph the Red-Nosed

Reindeer. Santa Claus headlines, no holidays, bro. Yep. That's crazy. And it's his birthday. I mean, Jesus headlines, no holidays. That's crazy. What is that? What is that? He needs a new PR person. That's what he needs.'s his birthday. I mean, Jesus headlines no holidays. That's crazy. What is that? What is that? He needs a new PR person. That's what he needs. He needs a new PR person.

You know what Jesus needs? And I'm not even trying to be funny. The same beard that Envy has. Imagine Jesus with that beard. No, no. It won't look authentic. It almost looks like the bottom half of a motorcycle helmet. I was just going to thank you for sending me all the rules and stuff.

Now I'm not thanking you. Joe Coy, be careful because Envy will end this interview. Thank you so much, Joe Coy. Envy, don't do that. Don't do that. Don't you do that. First, you got everybody calling us a liar. You're a liar.

Everybody calls us, you're a liar. And you're proving it with your beard. You're proving it by continuing to tell us that your beard is real. Hey, Evie, just paint the rest of your neck. That way people will believe you. Shout out to Callie. Shout out to Kevin Hart. Just take that roller and go down here.

Go down here. You might as well. You might as well. You might as well. I hate y'all, man. Thank you for joining us, man. No, man. I didn't like this, man. Now, listen, Joe Coy, I gotta say,

and I told you this too, there's some really random ass funny moments in this book, and one of my favorites is that you were part of a crew called the Scarecrows. It was just the nerdiest crew man what the hell it was just four nerds in elementary school man we were the scarecrows just nerds i like that picture in the book too where you look so innocent with the glasses from high school yeah i can see why i can see why you would call yourself a scarecrow. Right. Yo, man, why are you talking like you are f***ing handsome? Like, why?

Yeah, you're old school. I'm not much better, Charlamagne. Hey, Charlamagne. I don't know if you've seen Envy's either. Mine was a little crazy. Mine was a little crazy, too. Yeah. Charlamagne's acting like he was was Michael B Jordan in high school. You weren't.

I'd have definitely been in the scarecrow crew. I would have definitely been in the scarecrow crew earlier too. Michael B Jordan in high school. Yes, Michael B Jordan was always Michael B Jordan. Yes, he's one of those guys that everyone thought he was hot. I don't think so. According to L'Oreal, she went to high school with him, and she said they used to make fun of him in high school.

See? Man, she is a liar. Who is this? Who is this? No one liked her. She said he had a check. No one liked her. No one liked her.

No one liked her. Who is this? What's her name? What's her name, Angela? What's her name? I'm not going to say. Say her name No one liked her. Who is this? What's her name? What's her name, Angela? What's her name? I'm not going to say. Say her name. Say her name.

Because his name is Michael Jordan. She said, so that was already tough, like, to be named Michael Jordan. What's that got to do with looks? Your friend L'Oreal is a liar. You need to stop hanging out with liars, Angela. Anyone, anyone, anyone that says Michael B. Jordan wasn't good looking like 10 years ago, that's a lying bitch right there. You are a liar.

Listen, tweet us. I want to see old Michael B. Jordan high school pictures. Tweet us, Breakfast Club AM, or tweet Joe Coy. Show us Michael B. Jordan high school pictures. We can figure this out quite easily. Absolutely. Oh, very fast. Oh, and also tweet L'Oreal's last name because she's a liar.

L'Oreal's going to get you, bro. She does radio in D.C. L'Oreal don't bite her tongue. Oh, God. Don't listen to her. Don't listen to her show, D.C. That whole show is a lie. Oh, my goodness, man. That whole show is a lie. That is crazy.

Listen, go get Mixed Plate Chronicles of an All-American Combo. All right? Joe Coy's autobiography. It's a great read. It's fantastic. You didn't even read it. Hey, Charlamagne. Charlamagne.

I got a new nickname for you. You want to know what it is? What is it? L'Oreal You f***ing liar That's Charlamagne's new nickname I want everyone to Hashtag L'Oreal

A.K.A. Charlamagne I love L'Oreal I love you guys. Joe Quinn, goodbye, man. We love you. I love you guys. We love you back. The Breakfast Club. Your mornings will never be the same.

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